There's been some questions in the comments, so I'm pinning the answers to some here. 1. There was about a 7 minute drive for me to get to the location. Then I had to walk down the road a little to get to the actual fire scene. 2. The aerial ladder had to drive from about 10-12 minutes away in the city of Madison. They were requested within the first few minutes of the first engine's arrival. 3. The initial fire departments are volunteer departments, so there is some delay in them getting to locations out in the county in personal vehicles, etc. 4. There is a time frame missing from the video. I tried to go live, but YT wasn't having it, so swapped back to recording. That time frame of about 3 minutes was therefore not captured on video. 5. There's a little bit of choppy movement/zoom as I was using a new gimbal for the first time, it had been delivered earlier that morning.
As a proud father of a first responder I would like to thank these Gentlemen for all they do. My son is a firefighter for the Madison fire dept. Good job SON!
I’m surprised no one commented on what obviously is the homeowner on the ground on the sidewalk by the mailbox visibly distraught and being comforted by the next door neighbor. This is such a terrible loss 😢
I agree. I tried not to get family on video, but it was unavoidable in this instance. Always hate seeing someone lose their home. Thank God nobody was hurt.
Glad that everyone was able to get out in time, for the amount of fire showing. They knocked it quick once they got that deck gun opened up. Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
For all the armchair quarterbacks that clearly have no idea what they are looking at... From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But by that point the fire had already advanced into the roof and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior during the jump-cut in the video.
Those guys went into that fire off the booster tank of the engine before the hydrant was flowing with no second line behind them. Looks like the members cared to me and did the best they could under the circumstances.
When people are the victim of fire, that is when they will complain about Fire Depts. and Volunteer Service. If residence want better service, and full time firefighters they have to be prepared to pay increases taxes. "" 4 Firefighters per truck 24/7 , Fire Stations designed to be able to have the first truck on scene within 4-5 minutes, and the second/and or third truck on scene within 10 minutes. ( a lot of depts. have a policy 10 firefighters on scene within 10 minutes) Volunteers do a great job, leaving home or work, to attend. They do it for the community certainly not the wages. REMEDY > Build lots of Fire Stations, Buy lots of Fire Trucks, make sure the all neighbourhoods have a water system with fire hydrants, and Hire a lot of new firefighters. Problem Solved.
You forgot mandatory fire sprinkler systems for ALL new construction. My city has an ISO class 1, fully paid and properly staffed FD. They receive automatic mutual aid from a fully paid class 2 FD and another fully paid class 1 FD. The water system here is excellent. Still couldn't save a house on my street from becoming a total loss last year. Sprinklers are a must!
So sad to see such a beautiful home burn down. It's only by reading other comments that I noticed what was being done instead of letting my eyes only look at the flames. The upper floor seemed well involved already, the flames angrily spreading across the top and in the attic. This is a dream home for someone, something you spend your life working hard to get. I dont know what I would do losing my small place, let alone such a gorgeous home.
Why wasn’t the deck gun dumped on the heavy visible fire within 1 minute of arrival? Seems like they could have made a significant knock down if they had done that.
Kudos to the videographer. You stayed at a safe distance, did your best with what you had, used your camera properly, and did not blather all through the event. When people video and stay at a steady angle, it is simpler for the viewer to watch the progress of the situation. That strong wind sure did not help. I see when you were forced to cut by no fault of your own. Sad that we missed a lot of important minutes of the action, but you cant control machines, computers, or the internet access.
Attic fire with fast and hot progression from exposed wood is much easier to control. Ground floor with chemicals and furnishings is much more difficult. Good job, guys.
If you comment on this video about how US FFs are "slow" or whatever, do yourself a favor and don't. These guys did the best they could given their lack of resources from the beginning. Water + Fire = white steam and lighter smoke, which we see 2 minutes into the video. Not bad for a small crew of volunteers.
Looks to me like an interior attack was ongoing. If you look there was a line through the front door. It's trash new construction. Once in those garage made truss systems it's done. I've seen many paid dept videos in the same boat with new homes.
@@RocketCityNewsNow So being a volunteer means you have to wait for someone who gets paid while you ignore the obvious fire location to go inside to find it? Which they never did?
That is a large two story. For the arm chair firefighters, these firemen were fighting in defensive mode. Considering the number of mutual aid units, I would assuming these were all Volunteers. They did a good job.
To be clear, they did do an initial interior attack knocking down the fire on the first floor before advancing up the stairs, but pulled out once the ceiling started coming down. You can see the line running into to front door being advanced further inside at several points, also notice the steam production as well as the soot and charing around the first floor windows & eve's. If you pull up the radio comms from the fire you can hear them going interior and reporting that the first floor was knocked down, advancing, then being forced out.
2 types of structure burns fast,,, all wood homes,, and big fancy homes with the extreme roof lines,,, those big extra large roofs ,,, there is nothing but open air ,wood, and asphalt shingles on top of ply wood,,,, it's a hot box waiting to happen,,, it's rare that a newer fancy house burns,, but wene they do,, they burn hot and fast
I don't think one can judge a lot from this video. The contents of that house were a loss from the time the first truck arrived. Comments on too much water, well you have to put it out and that house is a total loss from the get-go. Like any fire, there is always room for improvement, and I bet all the armchair Chiefs here could learn from every fire they are on.
True. It was pretty much destroyed already. That’s one of the risks for living outside the city. And be of the reasons homeowners insurance is often more expensive. Our volunteer fire services out here do work really hard.
Sure took a while to get more than one line on the fire, finally someone got smart and used the deck gun which quickly did a great job. So sad for the family, good nobody was injured.
The deck gun went into use when I cut the video trying to go live. YT wouldn't start the live stream, so I went back to recording, instead. There's some time loss during that, of course. They used the deck gun after trying an interior attack first.
Iv been in construction for 30+ years,, all of the NFPA codes,,,, in homes such as this big huge attic spaces,,,, double 5/8 dry wall, on ceilings seperating liveing space from attic space,,, for 2 reasons, fire starts in attic, has issue burning downward,,, same as fire starts in living area ,,hard for it to get up I to the hot box attic area,,, same as row homes now need fire protection from one to the next In the attic,, no more fire spread from one area to the next,,, rich people spent $1 or more on that home,,, and it went up as fast as an old 1890 wood home In Hbg pa,,,, my bread and butter,,, so much hat did there $ go towards,,,, looks good from the out side ,, but not any more safe than the average 🤔🤔🤔😎
Deck guns are amazing. I wish they would also be called in to help with standoffs of criminals in cars or small buildings. A beanbag shot could smash the car window, and the deck gun flood the car so fast the suspect would have to surrender. If they supposedly had explosives, even better; the deck gun would drown the bomb. Great to clear out rioting mobs too.
Water at full blast can injure people badly. They have to be careful with it around firefighters. A blast over people's heads would be much less damaging.
@@crazyleyland5106 a blast from a gun is far more dangerous. The deck gun is safer than a bullet. Not saying it should be used all the time, but I've seen a lot of times when even a 1 inch line would do a lot of good.
Most of the fire seemed to be on the upper level. Is that where it started? I'm sure this house doesn't have balloon construction. I hope they can repair it.
Be warry when buying a cheaply made house like this. They go up like matches, you can tell its cheap cus it looks just like the one next to it. When developers buy land like this and build these homes in mass, mistakes will be made.
I never heard of this before. I would've thought by how nice they all look they wouldn't be considered cheap? What exactly makes them qualify as cheap?
@@Arborpress Thats the thing they put looking good over being made well. Especially if they were built in mass. Developer like to cut all the costs they can.
It looks to me that there was an engine company on the scene when you arrived. At about 3:28 it looked to me that they had still not got water on the fire. At about 3:29 the deck gun is going and it looked like a lot of the fire in the roof was knocked down. Anything of interest happen between 3:28 and 3:29? Any idea when they first got water on the fire?
They had a line inside the front door. Then they pulled out and used the deck gun. Then of course the aerial came from Madison. The cut was when I attempt to go live, but RUclips decided that wasn’t happening. Lost about 3 minutes or so there.
Nice catch . Hopefully that driver of Engine 5 gets yelled at .. Engine never takes front door that's for the ladder or tower truck always try to leave room for your tower or ladder to take front door. Bad truck placement for sure
Any word on cause? The separation of each wing, knowing they still have common areas, leaves me to believe something was amiss. For the fire to be pretty much the entire upper level and attic just leaves a big question mark. I could also believe the construction materials and home materials could have been a big factor in the rapid spread of the fire. Houses today are fire traps IMO. Many use spray foam insulation, and I would suggest everyone search for videos on just how flammable that product is vs fiberglass or other products. Glad no one was injured and made it out or were not home when this happened.
0:10 30 seconds after that engine arrived, the Deck Gun should have been hitting that gable end vent. I don't see where they laid-in from a hydrant. 0:40 Looks like they pulled a 2.5"-line through the front door which didn't get charged for a long time. It could have been used on the gable end vent. 1:00 The supply line isn't getting charged. 3:30 After some editing, we finally see the deck gun used to wet down the ashes. They LET the fire get too big by not putting water on what they did have access to. Instead, they go inside to try to access that inferno. Then, instead of surgically applying the water, they just endlessly squirt it until everything in the unburned areas is destroyed. THE USA FIRE DISSERVICE HAS TO GET ITS HEAD OUT OF IT'S BUTT AND LEARN WHAT THIS JOB IS.
Sorry, overlooked this comment earlier. Good breakdown of your thoughts. The "edit" was actually when I tried to go live, but YT decided that wasn't going to happen.
Thank goodness UK firefighters are not voluntary. They are very quick in sorting the fire. god bless all firefighters as the houses are made of wood don't they have sprinklers in them
Too bad the builders association has been pushing and winning on keeping them from being mandatory in all new construction. I would rather pay $30,000 - $50,000 in minor fire and water damage vs loosing everything. Don't know the property values there, but in PA this would be a $650,000 house at the low end.
The only house I've ever been happy to watch burn down to the ground, was a known drug dealers house at the end of my road. Before you ask, it was just him and his criminal buddies that filtered in and out.
I’ve watched videos of fires in Europe, Japan, and other foreign countries and it seems everyone is moving quickly and they’re putting water on the fire within just minutes of arrival. In many of the ones I’ve watched in this country, the firefighters are just casually strolling or standing around and five or ten minutes go by before even one hose is activated.
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But by that point the fire had already advanced into the roof and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior during the jump-cut in the video. But thanks for confirming you haven't the slightest idea what is going on here 🤡
Goes to show how much people suck these days. There is opinions and then there is complete ignorance. They have no room speaking about the handling of the situation when they have no idea how too plus not seeing the whole story . Anyone not paying attention it doesn't show the whole video plus Monrovia is in the county which has a volunteer fire department which probably means that house was gone before the 1st rig showed up. The other rigs are from a neighboring city that is a good drive away.
That’s true. It took me several minutes to get there before the video started. No idea what they had tried before I arrived. They did call for mutual aid as soon as the first rig arrived, I heard that radio traffic, and it’s pretty clear the upper level was raging when I got there. Our Monrovia firefighters are hard workers.
To me the bigger the house the more fuel the fire has to burn, have battles many big house fires and it is always the same the bigger it is the more fire we have to fight. And there has been times we were not able to reach some rooms from the inside due to so much stuff inside the home to stretch the line around.
It wasn’t released. But deputies were there conducting an eviction. They said they thought movers may have bumped a frayed electrical cord or socket. Residents were already outside.
The fire started on the first floor, note the flame soot and charing around the fist floor windows and eves When the camera arrives there is already a crew inside, note the charged line into the front door (several times it is visible being advanced) as well as visible steam production. The crew went in, knocked down the fire on the first floor but it had already spread to the second floor, as they worked their way up the stairs they were forced out by falling debris. At that point they pulled out and went defensive. There are a number of websites that record and save radio traffic, you can download the audio from this fire and hear the communications yourself.
Am I missing something 😕, why did it take so long for them to really start to attack the fire.. its like they were not in any hurry im not impressed with the way they worked this particular fire... it took the ladder truck forever to arrive and get set up. 🙄 wow really yall.
@@JB91710 Stating that the mutual aid came from another city is not making excuses. That’s stating a fact. I don’t fight fires, I film them. I didn’t provide excuses, just clarify some questions on why it took so long for the ladder truck to arrive.
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But the fire had already advanced into the ceiling and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior. As for you comment about the ladder truck... how do you figure? Do you know how far it had to travel? Do you know if the local FD even had one? Do you think 20+ ton engines and ladders can instantly teleport themselves across miles of roadway? When are you going to go join this FD and show them all how an armchair warrior gets things done? Seriously... stop making yourself look so foolish
Why do people put their cars and trucks right in the way of the Fire Trucks. You are required to move over if your on the road, but not if your home is on fire?
Most of these cars were already parked prior to the fire. Some of the cars you see nearby are also the volunteer firefighters than came to meet the engine. The last car to pull up (the dark one nearest the house), I believe was the homeowner rushing to check on her family and home. Typically law enforcement arrives to a fire call and begins blocking off both ends of the street. The Sheriff's Department got there shortly after I did. I parked around the corner and walked up so as not to park and obstruct movement of fire trucks.
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But by that point the fire had already advanced into the roof and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior during the jump-cut in the video. But thanks for again proving you haven't the slightest clue what you are babbling about 🤣
Can you sue a local fire department for incompetence in the US? What the fire didn't destroy they were determined to destroy with the deck gun and ladder. Shame the deck gun wasn't used with such enthusiasm on arrival.
Sue for what incompetence? That house was gone regardless even if FDNY handled it. Fire can move fast plus they would have to find extensions and hot spots plus overhaul. You didn't even see the whole video from moment of arrival so you have no room to speak about the handling of the fire.
Did he get out his prized Rolex collection? She her precious jewelry? Those 50k Persian rugs, grand piano and the entire basement will be under 3 feet of water😬
Yeah it looked like a really nice home. I’m not sure how long it was going before it was discovered. But I got there pretty quickly after the call when out. Happened to be nearby.
Where is the interior attsck line going thru front door.. master streams actually pushed the fire from this video.. pushed it into home more.. no trench line cut to stop the fire
"Where is the interior attsck line going thru front door" -Clearly visible going up the stoop and inside where the crew is working "master streams actually pushed the fire" -You cannot push fire with water... Stop making yourself look so foolish
And not a two story. With the high-pitched roofs, it would be a two and one-half story. But you could give the guy a brake or not. He did the time video and post the fire for us to watch.
Yes it was because it started on the first floor and spread upwards. They fought it from the interior until the ceiling started to fall on the crew. "The fire started on the first floor, note the flame soot and charing around the fist floor windows and eves When the camera arrives there is already a crew inside, note the charged line into the front door (several times it is visible being advanced) as well as visible steam production. The crew went in, knocked down the fire on the first floor but it had already spread to the second floor, as they worked their way up the stairs they were forced out by falling debris. At that point they pulled out and went defensive. There are a number of websites that record and save radio traffic, you can download the audio from this fire and hear the communications yourself."
@Daniel EBR Parish like I say, all the time, people call it differently as being fully involved. We have gone here, and a member says it's fully on arrival, but we get there in the truc, and it is only partially involved. I call it partial, not even well involved, due to its pretty much a McMansion.
Glad everyone got out safely. Some very nice houses in that area. There is always an erie quiet at house fires. For whatever reason I would always expect a lot of noise. Great job Onyx. Did you ever hear what caused it?
@@RocketCityNewsNow Here's what four firefighters with a strong work ethic could have done with a 1957 Mack Pumper. 1. First FFer, lay in the hydrant line. 2. Second FFer, activate the pump. 3. Third FFer, Deck Gun the gable end vent using tank water where fire is showing. 4. Fourth FFer, pull a 1-3/4" line to the front door. 5. First FFer join the hose at the front door and go in to access the top floor ceiling. 6. Third DG FFer pull a second line to an additional location and apply water to any Visible Burning Material.
There's been some questions in the comments, so I'm pinning the answers to some here.
1. There was about a 7 minute drive for me to get to the location. Then I had to walk down the road a little to get to the actual fire scene.
2. The aerial ladder had to drive from about 10-12 minutes away in the city of Madison. They were requested within the first few minutes of the first engine's arrival.
3. The initial fire departments are volunteer departments, so there is some delay in them getting to locations out in the county in personal vehicles, etc.
4. There is a time frame missing from the video. I tried to go live, but YT wasn't having it, so swapped back to recording. That time frame of about 3 minutes was therefore not captured on video.
5. There's a little bit of choppy movement/zoom as I was using a new gimbal for the first time, it had been delivered earlier that morning.
As a proud father of a first responder I would like to thank these Gentlemen for all they do. My son is a firefighter for the Madison fire dept. Good job SON!
Awesome! Thanks to your son for serving the community!
I also live in Alabama, and I thank him for risking his life and being there when the worst happens to people. God Bless!
I’m surprised no one commented on what obviously is the homeowner on the ground on the sidewalk by the mailbox visibly distraught and being comforted by the next door neighbor. This is such a terrible loss 😢
I agree. I tried not to get family on video, but it was unavoidable in this instance. Always hate seeing someone lose their home. Thank God nobody was hurt.
Glad that everyone was able to get out in time, for the amount of fire showing. They knocked it quick once they got that deck gun opened up.
Thank you to all firefighters everywhere for protecting the citizens of your coverage area.
For all the armchair quarterbacks that clearly have no idea what they are looking at...
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But by that point the fire had already advanced into the roof and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior during the jump-cut in the video.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your input.
Those guys went into that fire off the booster tank of the engine before the hydrant was flowing with no second line behind them. Looks like the members cared to me and did the best they could under the circumstances.
When people are the victim of fire, that is when they will complain about Fire Depts. and Volunteer Service. If residence want better service, and full time firefighters they have to be prepared to pay increases taxes. "" 4 Firefighters per truck 24/7 , Fire Stations designed to be able to have the first truck on scene within 4-5 minutes, and the second/and or third truck on scene within 10 minutes. ( a lot of depts. have a policy 10 firefighters on scene within 10 minutes) Volunteers do a great job, leaving home or work, to attend. They do it for the community certainly not the wages. REMEDY > Build lots of Fire Stations, Buy lots of Fire Trucks, make sure the all neighbourhoods have a water system with fire hydrants, and Hire a lot of new firefighters. Problem Solved.
You forgot mandatory fire sprinkler systems for ALL new construction. My city has an ISO class 1, fully paid and properly staffed FD. They receive automatic mutual aid from a fully paid class 2 FD and another fully paid class 1 FD. The water system here is excellent. Still couldn't save a house on my street from becoming a total loss last year. Sprinklers are a must!
So sad to see such a beautiful home burn down. It's only by reading other comments that I noticed what was being done instead of letting my eyes only look at the flames. The upper floor seemed well involved already, the flames angrily spreading across the top and in the attic.
This is a dream home for someone, something you spend your life working hard to get. I dont know what I would do losing my small place, let alone such a gorgeous home.
The level of despair someone must feel is unimaginable. I’m just glad everybody made it out safely.
❤it was my dream home…
This was your home?
Why wasn’t the deck gun dumped on the heavy visible fire within 1 minute of arrival? Seems like they could have made a significant knock down if they had done that.
Good question
a) Because there were crews inside working the fire
b) It wouldn't have done squat on this fire
It is very sad to see anyone’s home burn up. I would never wish that even on my worst enemy.
I am so sorry for the homeowners, at least you made it out alive. Bless you.
Nice videography. Steady well focused and capturing the atmosphere of the fireground. Well done.
Thanks so much!
Kudos to the videographer. You stayed at a safe distance, did your best with what you had, used your camera properly, and did not blather all through the event. When people video and stay at a steady angle, it is simpler for the viewer to watch the progress of the situation. That strong wind sure did not help. I see when you were forced to cut by no fault of your own. Sad that we missed a lot of important minutes of the action, but you cant control machines, computers, or the internet access.
Thanks, Marc. I’m no pro, but I try to get the best angle as safely as possible.
@@RocketCityNewsNow Good job!👍🏻👨🏻🚒
Thanks! I try.
Thought this wasn’t too bad. Always a deck gun fire from the beginning but can’t knock an initial early entry attempt. Far better than most
Pity the aerial attack took so long thiugh
Yeah, the volunteer department doesn’t have one. Had to wait for one from a neighboring city.
By the time they are ready most of the house is gone. It happens everytime.
Attic fire with fast and hot progression from exposed wood is much easier to control. Ground floor with chemicals and furnishings is much more difficult. Good job, guys.
Great point!
what a shame... Such a beautiful home...I am however very glad no one was hurt. Good video.
Thank you. I’m always heartbroken when I see someone lose their home.
If you comment on this video about how US FFs are "slow" or whatever, do yourself a favor and don't. These guys did the best they could given their lack of resources from the beginning. Water + Fire = white steam and lighter smoke, which we see 2 minutes into the video. Not bad for a small crew of volunteers.
Thanks for your comment. Our local volunteers really do work hard.
Firemen like to eat their own. Very few professionals do that.
What a horrible thing to happen to someone's home. I hope they get things handled soon. At least they are all safe.
I agree. The Red Cross was contacted for the family.
I cannot believe how casual they were all walking around this is a horrible response.
It's out in the county, volunteer fire departments only. They did request Madison City for mutual aid, they brought the ladder truck.
Looks to me like an interior attack was ongoing. If you look there was a line through the front door. It's trash new construction. Once in those garage made truss systems it's done. I've seen many paid dept videos in the same boat with new homes.
@@RocketCityNewsNow So being a volunteer means you have to wait for someone who gets paid while you ignore the obvious fire location to go inside to find it? Which they never did?
@@ronstrulic4388 Yeah, that interior attack went well.
That is a large two story. For the arm chair firefighters, these firemen were fighting in defensive mode. Considering the number of mutual aid units, I would assuming these were all Volunteers. They did a good job.
To be clear, they did do an initial interior attack knocking down the fire on the first floor before advancing up the stairs, but pulled out once the ceiling started coming down. You can see the line running into to front door being advanced further inside at several points, also notice the steam production as well as the soot and charing around the first floor windows & eve's. If you pull up the radio comms from the fire you can hear them going interior and reporting that the first floor was knocked down, advancing, then being forced out.
Yep! 💯
2 types of structure burns fast,,, all wood homes,, and big fancy homes with the extreme roof lines,,, those big extra large roofs ,,, there is nothing but open air ,wood, and asphalt shingles on top of ply wood,,,, it's a hot box waiting to happen,,, it's rare that a newer fancy house burns,, but wene they do,, they burn hot and fast
Good use of deck gun. That's why fire depths have them. Need to be put to use more.
Thanks for watching!
I don't think one can judge a lot from this video. The contents of that house were a loss from the time the first truck arrived. Comments on too much water, well you have to put it out and that house is a total loss from the get-go. Like any fire, there is always room for improvement, and I bet all the armchair Chiefs here could learn from every fire they are on.
Well said!
True. It was pretty much destroyed already. That’s one of the risks for living outside the city. And be of the reasons homeowners insurance is often more expensive. Our volunteer fire services out here do work really hard.
Sure took a while to get more than one line on the fire, finally someone got smart and used the deck gun which quickly did a great job. So sad for the family, good nobody was injured.
Yes, thankfully everyone got out quickly.
Man so sorry for families loss.
Such nice homes
I agree. It’s heartbreaking.
Wow at 3:35 the first pumper finally found THE DECK GUN!
The deck gun went into use when I cut the video trying to go live. YT wouldn't start the live stream, so I went back to recording, instead. There's some time loss during that, of course. They used the deck gun after trying an interior attack first.
thats a terrible thing to happen right here at the holidays. hopefully everyone DID make it out the house.. my thoughts are with that family
Yeah it’s rough. The fire department did say everybody was out.
Iv been in construction for 30+ years,, all of the NFPA codes,,,, in homes such as this big huge attic spaces,,,, double 5/8 dry wall, on ceilings seperating liveing space from attic space,,, for 2 reasons, fire starts in attic, has issue burning downward,,, same as fire starts in living area ,,hard for it to get up I to the hot box attic area,,, same as row homes now need fire protection from one to the next In the attic,, no more fire spread from one area to the next,,, rich people spent $1 or more on that home,,, and it went up as fast as an old 1890 wood home In Hbg pa,,,, my bread and butter,,, so much hat did there $ go towards,,,, looks good from the out side ,, but not any more safe than the average 🤔🤔🤔😎
Absolutely no reason for that second house to catch fire. They didn't even bother with exposure until it was too late.
There was no "second house" that caught fire
Nope. That was all one house. Huge house.
That was the attached garage
Quite a large number of "armchair firefighters" in the comment section. 👍🏻
@@RocketCityNewsNow it looks huge, but Zillow says only 2100 sq ft. I would have thought much bigger.
What a beautiful home very sad
It's so sad to see ppls homes burn. Hope no one was injured ✌️
It is sad. Nobody was injured, thankfully.
Very good use of deck gun
Thanks for watching!
That big castle-looking home burned like a house trailer???
It did burn rather quickly.
Deck guns are amazing. I wish they would also be called in to help with standoffs of criminals in cars or small buildings. A beanbag shot could smash the car window, and the deck gun flood the car so fast the suspect would have to surrender. If they supposedly had explosives, even better; the deck gun would drown the bomb.
Great to clear out rioting mobs too.
Water at full blast can injure people badly. They have to be careful with it around firefighters. A blast over people's heads would be much less damaging.
@@crazyleyland5106 a blast from a gun is far more dangerous. The deck gun is safer than a bullet. Not saying it should be used all the time, but I've seen a lot of times when even a 1 inch line would do a lot of good.
Most of the fire seemed to be on the upper level. Is that where it started? I'm sure this house doesn't have balloon construction. I hope they can repair it.
That’s what it looked like to me.
Be warry when buying a cheaply made house like this. They go up like matches, you can tell its cheap cus it looks just like the one next to it. When developers buy land like this and build these homes in mass, mistakes will be made.
They're only designed and built to last about 30 years.
I never heard of this before. I would've thought by how nice they all look they wouldn't be considered cheap? What exactly makes them qualify as cheap?
@@Arborpress Thats the thing they put looking good over being made well. Especially if they were built in mass. Developer like to cut all the costs they can.
@@Arborpress No fire sprinkler system, thin building materials, no fire walls between rooms.
Came here for the RUclips firefighter comments.
There’s plenty. 🤣
Got your popcorn?
The armchair firefighters are in full form on this one 😉
Some of the replies are to those comments are very good.
It looks to me that there was an engine company on the scene when you arrived. At about 3:28 it looked to me that they had still not got water on the fire. At about 3:29 the deck gun is going and it looked like a lot of the fire in the roof was knocked down. Anything of interest happen between 3:28 and 3:29? Any idea when they first got water on the fire?
They had a line inside the front door. Then they pulled out and used the deck gun. Then of course the aerial came from Madison. The cut was when I attempt to go live, but RUclips decided that wasn’t happening. Lost about 3 minutes or so there.
@@RocketCityNewsNow Thanks and I can understand why they would have pulled out of the house at some point.
Absolutely love the deck gun
Light construction, heavy involvement of rafters. I’d be hesitant to send crews interior. Good call on deck gun.
It was raging for sure.
The deck gun is awesome for sure. The power is beautiful.
Grow a pair sweetie.
That's the problem with these pre fab homes they go up in a mater of mins
They sure ain’t built like they used to be.
Nice catch . Hopefully that driver of Engine 5 gets yelled at .. Engine never takes front door that's for the ladder or tower truck always try to leave room for your tower or ladder to take front door. Bad truck placement for sure
This volunteer department doesn’t have a ladder or tower. They had to call that in after they realized they needed mutual aid.
You have no clue what you are babbling about
They have to leave room for the truck that takes forever to set up and is never effective until after the fire is out.
Any word on cause? The separation of each wing, knowing they still have common areas, leaves me to believe something was amiss. For the fire to be pretty much the entire upper level and attic just leaves a big question mark.
I could also believe the construction materials and home materials could have been a big factor in the rapid spread of the fire. Houses today are fire traps IMO. Many use spray foam insulation, and I would suggest everyone search for videos on just how flammable that product is vs fiberglass or other products.
Glad no one was injured and made it out or were not home when this happened.
I didn't see any information released on the cause of the fire. It was under investigation, of course.
No fire sprinklers....Amazing!
They are not effective. Most fires start in the attic, or behind walls. Also not enough water pressure to operate properly.
@@tira2145 Kitchen, wood stoves, and fireplaces, and smoking.
All things considered it was a good stop
@Cessna Driver
It's sad that you actually think you have a clue what you are talking about
E5 finally gets the master stream up and saves the day
I tell ya, that was amazing to see.
But not the house.
0:10 30 seconds after that engine arrived, the Deck Gun should have been hitting that gable end vent. I don't see where they laid-in from a hydrant.
0:40 Looks like they pulled a 2.5"-line through the front door which didn't get charged for a long time. It could have been used on the gable end vent.
1:00 The supply line isn't getting charged.
3:30 After some editing, we finally see the deck gun used to wet down the ashes. They LET the fire get too big by not putting water on what they did have access to. Instead, they go inside to try to access that inferno.
Then, instead of surgically applying the water, they just endlessly squirt it until everything in the unburned areas is destroyed.
THE USA FIRE DISSERVICE HAS TO GET ITS HEAD OUT OF IT'S BUTT AND LEARN WHAT THIS JOB IS.
Sorry, overlooked this comment earlier. Good breakdown of your thoughts. The "edit" was actually when I tried to go live, but YT decided that wasn't going to happen.
Says the pretend firefighter who's never worked a fire in his life
@@virgilhilts3924 Your Guesswork sucks just like all your comments that have nothing to do with firefighting.
@@RocketCityNewsNow Notice the difference in roof damage at the edit point. It took a long time to get that DG working.
@@JB91710
No guesswork involved... your words speak for themselves
You've NEVER worked a fire in your life
Thank goodness UK firefighters are not voluntary. They are very quick in sorting the fire. god bless all firefighters as the houses are made of wood don't they have sprinklers in them
Most large cities are volunteers. Even medium cities have their own. Smaller towns have lower budgets so it is a lot of volunteers.
My neighborhood I live in. Sad that happened so close to the holidays
Yeah it does make it even worse.
Think Sprinklers!
Too bad the builders association has been pushing and winning on keeping them from being mandatory in all new construction. I would rather pay $30,000 - $50,000 in minor fire and water damage vs loosing everything. Don't know the property values there, but in PA this would be a $650,000 house at the low end.
@@jamessimmonds3773 I have a custom house. The price for sprinklers was $1.50 per square foot. It was an additional $2,250. Cheap.
Wow, that’s way cheaper than I thought it would be. Any special needs for water pressure from the main line?
@@RocketCityNewsNow No.
@@nobull4414
Cheaper than the homes insurance deductible.
Has this been edited? They seem to have put it out fast contrary to some of the comments.
Check my pinned comment. Tech issue trying go live. So we lost about 3-4 minutes in there.
The only house I've ever been happy to watch burn down to the ground, was a known drug dealers house at the end of my road. Before you ask, it was just him and his criminal buddies that filtered in and out.
How many tankers used i see no hydrant units
I’ve watched videos of fires in Europe, Japan, and other foreign countries and it seems everyone is moving quickly and they’re putting water on the fire within just minutes of arrival. In many of the ones I’ve watched in this country, the firefighters are just casually strolling or standing around and five or ten minutes go by before even one hose is activated.
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But by that point the fire had already advanced into the roof and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior during the jump-cut in the video. But thanks for confirming you haven't the slightest idea what is going on here 🤡
So sad.....
I totally agree.
Goes to show how much people suck these days. There is opinions and then there is complete ignorance. They have no room speaking about the handling of the situation when they have no idea how too plus not seeing the whole story . Anyone not paying attention it doesn't show the whole video plus Monrovia is in the county which has a volunteer fire department which probably means that house was gone before the 1st rig showed up. The other rigs are from a neighboring city that is a good drive away.
That’s true. It took me several minutes to get there before the video started. No idea what they had tried before I arrived. They did call for mutual aid as soon as the first rig arrived, I heard that radio traffic, and it’s pretty clear the upper level was raging when I got there. Our Monrovia firefighters are hard workers.
👍🏻Not to mention the wind.
Very sad to see such a beautiful home destroyed
I totally agree.
Best part of the vid was cut out, firing up that deck gun!
Yp
good work onyx hope no one was injured wish a good call happen here
Thanks! No injuries were reported.
Working fire yes… fully involved???? Missed the mark on that one
No interior attack at first
ALWAYS KEEP YOUR PHONE FULLY CHARGED
To me the bigger the house the more fuel the fire has to burn, have battles many big house fires and it is always the same the bigger it is the more fire we have to fight. And there has been times we were not able to reach some rooms from the inside due to so much stuff inside the home to stretch the line around.
Was a cause ever determined?
It wasn’t released. But deputies were there conducting an eviction. They said they thought movers may have bumped a frayed electrical cord or socket. Residents were already outside.
What a nice house
Fire in the attic. A wiring issue, or a faulty chimney?
The fire started on the first floor, note the flame soot and charing around the fist floor windows and eves
When the camera arrives there is already a crew inside, note the charged line into the front door (several times it is visible being advanced) as well as visible steam production. The crew went in, knocked down the fire on the first floor but it had already spread to the second floor, as they worked their way up the stairs they were forced out by falling debris. At that point they pulled out and went defensive. There are a number of websites that record and save radio traffic, you can download the audio from this fire and hear the communications yourself.
that is what insurance is for
True. But there's family photos and heirlooms that just can't be replaced. Thanks for watching!
Prayer sent up.
Always breaks my heart to see people lose their homes.
Not at all impressed by the actions of this FD.....
Words from a RUclips expert.
What did they do wrong?
@@virgilhilts3924 You are asking for it now. Let me ask you... did you ever get to see Berlin from the ground and air before the war ended?
Not at all impressed by your stupid f**king remark
Am I missing something 😕, why did it take so long for them to really start to attack the fire.. its like they were not in any hurry im not impressed with the way they worked this particular fire... it took the ladder truck forever to arrive and get set up. 🙄 wow really yall.
The ladder truck had to come from another town, mutual aid request.
@@RocketCityNewsNow You need to Stop making excuses for incompetent firefighting.
@@JB91710 Stating that the mutual aid came from another city is not making excuses. That’s stating a fact. I don’t fight fires, I film them. I didn’t provide excuses, just clarify some questions on why it took so long for the ladder truck to arrive.
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But the fire had already advanced into the ceiling and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior.
As for you comment about the ladder truck... how do you figure? Do you know how far it had to travel? Do you know if the local FD even had one? Do you think 20+ ton engines and ladders can instantly teleport themselves across miles of roadway? When are you going to go join this FD and show them all how an armchair warrior gets things done?
Seriously... stop making yourself look so foolish
It took at good 10 minutes plus, I’d guess, for the ladder and other mutual aid to drive from Madison even with lights and sirens.
Why do people put their cars and trucks right in the way of the Fire Trucks. You are required to move over if your on the road, but not if your home is on fire?
Most of these cars were already parked prior to the fire. Some of the cars you see nearby are also the volunteer firefighters than came to meet the engine. The last car to pull up (the dark one nearest the house), I believe was the homeowner rushing to check on her family and home. Typically law enforcement arrives to a fire call and begins blocking off both ends of the street. The Sheriff's Department got there shortly after I did. I parked around the corner and walked up so as not to park and obstruct movement of fire trucks.
I'm curious why that first unit had no ldh on board it's a pretty truck but dang it looks bare atleast in the back
2:40 total loss due to fire department taking so long to start fighting it.
From the moment the video started there was already a line stretched through the front door and a crew working inside. They had already knocked down the fire on the first floor (note all the soot on the 1st floor walls & eves) and were working there way up the stairs to fight on the 2nd floor. But by that point the fire had already advanced into the roof and parts were starting to come down, this is why they pulled the interior crew and went defensive from the exterior during the jump-cut in the video. But thanks for again proving you haven't the slightest clue what you are babbling about 🤣
Onyx nice job on the upload
Thanks Chris!
A house of this expense should have considered a sprinkler system.
Thanks for watching!
Can you sue a local fire department for incompetence in the US? What the fire didn't destroy they were determined to destroy with the deck gun and ladder. Shame the deck gun wasn't used with such enthusiasm on arrival.
I don’t know if one could sue or not. And don’t know why the water was delayed.
Specifically how were they "incompetent"...?
Sue for what incompetence? That house was gone regardless even if FDNY handled it. Fire can move fast plus they would have to find extensions and hot spots plus overhaul. You didn't even see the whole video from moment of arrival so you have no room to speak about the handling of the fire.
Did he get out his prized Rolex collection? She her precious jewelry? Those 50k Persian rugs, grand piano and the entire basement will be under 3 feet of water😬
Could have been quicker with master streams, but that was defensive from arrival.
WHY no Deck Gun????
It did take a few to utilize it. But it sure did put out some water didn’t it?
Literally 3:30 into the video…. Unless you mean initially, then my thought would be lack of an established water supply.
Those look like million plus homes. Looks like the fire was going for awhile before it was discovered.
Yeah it looked like a really nice home. I’m not sure how long it was going before it was discovered. But I got there pretty quickly after the call when out. Happened to be nearby.
Buh bye McMansion
nice work as always. shitty a nice house like that has to be destroyed like that
Thanks. It was horrible to see, for sure.
The fire departments are doing really good job
Perfect opportunity for the deck gun…just sayin…just a tad bit late utilizing it and when I say a tad bit late I mean way late
It should have had that attic soaked before this video even started.
I'm not sure why there was a delay. And I'm also not 100% sure how long the first engine was there prior to my arrival.
It's bulldozer time
The turtle fire department.
The ignorant troll. 🤣🤣👌🏻
@@choppermike3329 Well done Sir.
Where is the interior attsck line going thru front door.. master streams actually pushed the fire from this video.. pushed it into home more.. no trench line cut to stop the fire
"Where is the interior attsck line going thru front door"
-Clearly visible going up the stoop and inside where the crew is working
"master streams actually pushed the fire"
-You cannot push fire with water... Stop making yourself look so foolish
Wow ! What a bunch of friggen experts , LOL !
The joys of online comments.
Not fully involved on arrival
And not a two story. With the high-pitched roofs, it would be a two and one-half story. But you could give the guy a brake or not. He did the time video and post the fire for us to watch.
@@riff2072
It was in fact a two story
@@riff2072most certainly is a two story!
Yes it was because it started on the first floor and spread upwards. They fought it from the interior until the ceiling started to fall on the crew.
"The fire started on the first floor, note the flame soot and charing around the fist floor windows and eves
When the camera arrives there is already a crew inside, note the charged line into the front door (several times it is visible being advanced) as well as visible steam production. The crew went in, knocked down the fire on the first floor but it had already spread to the second floor, as they worked their way up the stairs they were forced out by falling debris. At that point they pulled out and went defensive. There are a number of websites that record and save radio traffic, you can download the audio from this fire and hear the communications yourself."
@Daniel EBR Parish like I say, all the time, people call it differently as being fully involved. We have gone here, and a member says it's fully on arrival, but we get there in the truc, and it is only partially involved. I call it partial, not even well involved, due to its pretty much a McMansion.
You would think that they would have more fire trucks
Fully invovled?
Slow Motion....
CAN YOU PLEASE include the state that this was in. this is an INTERNATIONAL WEB PAGE! not everybody lives in your town!
Done. It’s Madison County, AL.
Way to be rude, numskull
Alabama
Could have used a blitz fire nozzle
I'm honestly not sure I've seen one in use around here.
At least they got that high pressure nozzle off the rig working!!
@@jimkeappock7558 It should have been working before this video started. Within 30-40 seconds after arrival to get it flowing on tank water.
One line stretched and one line being contemplated
I was there
And again you didn’t come speak to me?! 🤣
@@RocketCityNewsNow I did not recognize you. But I’ll make a vow to make sure of it next time.
Would be cool to shake your hand.
Glad everyone got out safely. Some very nice houses in that area. There is always an erie quiet at house fires. For whatever reason I would always expect a lot of noise. Great job Onyx. Did you ever hear what caused it?
I’m glad they got out too. Now that you mention it, there is an eerie quiet sometimes. I haven’t seen a cause released.
Only one hose going
No sense ofurgency
this looks like a big fancy neighborhood with poor fire service, that big expensive looking house looks done from the start
It's out in the county, volunteer fire departments only. They did request Madison City for mutual aid, they brought the ladder truck.
@@RocketCityNewsNow if I was to think about moving to I nice spot like that I would hope to have better fire protection like a paid department
Yeah, Madison City and Huntsville are paid departments. This area is just outside the city a bit.
@@RocketCityNewsNow Here's what four firefighters with a strong work ethic could have done with a 1957 Mack Pumper.
1. First FFer, lay in the hydrant line.
2. Second FFer, activate the pump.
3. Third FFer, Deck Gun the gable end vent using tank water where fire is showing.
4. Fourth FFer, pull a 1-3/4" line to the front door.
5. First FFer join the hose at the front door and go in to access the top floor ceiling.
6. Third DG FFer pull a second line to an additional location and apply water to any Visible Burning Material.
Nice breakdown!