Just gave this a go with and old 11oC sleeping bag, works a charm mate! Mine has a zipper that goes all the way to the feet, so I pocked a small hole about halfway down the length of he foot area of the zipper and cable tied the zipper open / shut. Then I could separate the zipper on the top half to create a neat hole to poke the hammock through, without having to use tape to seal in the stuffing. Legend mate, this has saved me hundreds of $$$!
If you do this again with a new bag, you might want to look into sewing an elastic draw string at the ends to tighten it down to avoid the heat loss. Great video!
I can't thank you enough for sharing this. Been trying to find a solution to my Hennessy Hammock underquilt problem for an AGE! Have an old down bag I've had forever and don't mind if it gets wrecked so gonna take the plunge. Here in NZ there's bugger all in the way of UQ solutions so your DIY off the bat scores for $$ and convenience. Thanks again and here's hoping this works out!
Just want to say thanks for the video I just bought a hammock recently to go backpacking with. I've been watching a lot of videos and I come across yours and I love to save money when I can because I have so much invested in the rest of my gear. I will be definitely be making one of these .thanks again for your videos
Very nice field testing. I might have to try the windshield reflector this spring. I thought I was the only one that forgot the tarp ridgeline :). I did find a new use for the pups leash and tie-out when I forgot my ridgeline.
Just watched the first part and then watched this field test. Awesome job man! I really appreciate all of the practical advice and the fact that you covered things like the pad keeping you warm as you turn on your side etc. I will have to keep an eye out for one of those windshield reflectors, what a cool idea. Thank a lot for sharing man. God Bless! -Lochlainn
Moss Stone Woodlore Thanks...that was the reason I started the channel. Low-cost, practical, real-world stuff. Im glad youre enjoying it! God Bless bro!
I love the idea that you have about the under quilt from a bag but to avoid ruining the bag that you may want to still use on occasion or for others if they camp with you. Why not add two inch Velcro with adhesive to the inside flap on one side of your cut and in the outside flap of the other side of the cut good so it is holding the Velcro in place, then sew it in. This would allow you to close up the end of the bag and mummy hood and still be able to use the bag as designed, without much loss of insulative properties. It will simply be slightly smaller as the Velcro overlaps or both sides of the cut. Just a thought and it becomes multifunctional for its weight in your pack. I have worked with zipper son and understand their design maybe a little more than the average person . I have some other ideas for even a conventional bag and how to create the same type Velcro closure at the foot of a conventional bag if you are interested. Fantastic idea, revolutionary even if I may say so! 😎
+Julian Dorrell Would you post a video to show this. I'm not sure I can visualize the Velcro idea but it sounds good, I guess. I was thinking he should be able to close up the hole and maybe offset it so he can go diag. and the slit lower in the hood to allow closure.
Hey Drew not to worry about how long it took you to put out this video. Looks like its a winner and I like that you used a windshield guard. Thanks for sharing.
I usually try to find some trees further apart than that personally, that way my hammock doesn't give me the sag in the middle of the hammock and feels much more flat-ish I guess is how I describe it. I also use two 10 foot cargo cinch straps for my rigging, that way I can set it up quickly and after that make quick adjustments if needed. I am glad to see it worked out well I'm definitely going to do this with one of PawPaw's ten pound bags, I'm not too worried about the weight of the bag I don't pack my packs heavy but I'm no ultralight packer either except for the summertime lol. Awesome test I was definitely excited to see a real world "how it felt" experience. That was definitely cool 🥶
Can you answer one question for me tho. Does that pocket of air stay warm underneath you even tho it seems like that by your head it could still let air in?
Testing mine out, this weekend. Will take video of it and provide feedback. Of course, mine is only a 20* bag and it's only going to be in the 40s, so may be overkill. What are your thoughts on using the Army poncho liner as an underquilt?
great vid. thanks. since you did not sleep flat diagonally, that mean banana shape posture? were your back not hurting from it? i would assume that this is the main draw back of the pod?
Nice carefully thought out review. Still looking to purchase a underquilt but really like the windshield shade idea, that looks like that might be a solution for summer hanging just to keep the draft off the tush. I have borrowed a Jacks R better grey lock 3 and used my kelty 20 degree bag as a top quilt in 38 degree weather and been almost too warm with just pj pants and a undershirt. I've used the same setup without the underquilt with a foam pad inserted into a Bugaboo blanket in 28 degree, wind howling and been very comfortable. As soon as it stops raining here in Texas I'll be doing some hanging reviews. regards ...Gadget
After watching i thought of something. Making the slits as close to the bottom (ground side) as possible. This could give you a more ideal air gap by bringing up the sag. As for the hood make the slit as close to the bag/hood seam. i think this would allow you more hood to cover your face. One down side I think it would not leave as much room in the bag. I have a MSS that I was thinking of doing this with. Wanted to wait and see if someone else did it. Thanks for the vid great idea.
Subscribed and liked. I am in the same boat as you were in, I just don't have the money to drop 200 or 300 on an under quilt. I was thinking of trying this very thing but running the end of the hammock out the side zipper.
Thanks this awsome hints to convert old sleepingbag. I am going to try hammock and tarp camping this year and I don't want to spend big money in case I don't like it so your videos where very helpfull for me to find a way to cut down the budget. I have also subscribe to Your channel because you have plenty of interesting topics Ciao from Quebec
Thank yo for the video. I will make an adjustment to your setup though. You also said that you like to sleep a bit diagonally, so do I, and so should try everyone hammock camping. I will try to not cut a whole in the sleeping bag, but put it up by the corners and don't zip it all the way in (my bag has double zipper like suitcases), this should allow me to put the sleeping bag from corner to opposite corner and when I sleep it should be perfect for the diagonal position (-ish). I've also bought something under to protect me from wind, from a dollar store, similar to your windshield protector, I'll see how it goes. I'll stuff my clothes under myself too for insulation. I like your mentality, keep up the good work ;) Thanks
The double zip might solve the problem at the foot end (as long as the zips don't slide undone?) but how would you resolve the issue with the hood fully underneath at the head end?
Awesome DIY project. On the draught problem: should you lower the hole you put in the hood (move it closer to the shoulders), do you think this would improve wind protection / heat loss from the upper body? I'm thinking the hood would cinch closer and cover your forehead better, too.
My winter bag has a bottom zip too, to pop your feet out. If you found one like that, you might be able to get away with only cutting the top of the bag for the head cinch.
Man this was cool,....I mean, cold. Looked like it really did do the trick. I've never tried an underquilt befkrenn. I just use the dual sleeping pads myself. One Ridge Rest pad and a Nemo cosmo Insulated pad. Gave some great ideas bud Thanks.
Was waiting for this review. What do you think about sewing velcro into the end to try and seal it up a little better and you could still use it as a conventional sleeping bag. Thanks for posting.
I was actually thinking about doing that myself. I think it would work pretty well. I most likely wont do it on this one because it is heavy and bulky, but on the next bag I try it on I will probably do it. Thanks for watching!
Do you think the pod system that you used would have been enough insulation with out the pad? If you test this again you might consider loosing the pad until you need it. I'm curious how cold you can go before you need a pad. Happy testing!
Well, I'm going on a hang this weekend, but don't have enough time to make the bag mod. ....But, I will try the windshield shade under my sleeping bag and just sleep in the hammock. I watched you other video about making it a few days ago, but curious what was the original bag rating? Do you think if you used a standard rectangle bag instead of mummy, that you would be able to sleep on diagonal, and would it be worth the extra pack space?
+Jason Robinson hard to say. The rectangular bag is good because you can spread your legs out...I kind of point my knees out to the sides when I sleep in my hammock
You have had that now over an year. Any updates or new ups and downs? You didn't have to use any sleeping bag inside the hammock? For how cold was that bag rated? That just looks like too good to be true so exactly what I should go and try. Thanks for video!
+WMfin The temp was in the single digits that night. It works great, as long as you stuff your pack under your knees, otherwise, your knees hyperextend and will be sore
You are on the right track. if your going to buy another bag, get a rectangle instead of a mummy bag. Run your suspension out the corners diagonally through the zipper and you have an asym capable top and bottom quilt. That's what I did! I have a UL down mummy bag I get in..which allows me to cinch up tight around my face...and use a rectangle bag as an underquilt and over quilt also like your trying with your mummy. Total weight is under 4 pounds and toasty down into the teens using bags rated for the 30s but combined...and with my car dash reflector as my pad I cook all night long in just silk weight poly shirt and pants. I dont have to layer up even in the snow in the Rockies. You're on the right track.You have the right pad. Use your summer weight down mummy bag to get in and grab a rectangle shaped old down bag as your outer layer. Then you can sleep diagonal like you want to in that baby with no issues. I do.
Just a thought. What if you cut a slit into the footbox and the hood, and then sewed a zipper. Opening the zipper would allow a slit for the hammock to pass through, but then you could close the zippers for tent systems.
+Eric Meeks haha, that would probably work out pretty well. my only concern would be the zipper getting caught on the hammock and possibly tearing it. It's a bit of a slim chance, but it did cross my mind. Thanks for the idea!
Nice video man and this is an idea that I have been throwing around as well. Nice to see someone doing it with good results. Thanks for the video. Quick question for you... did you sweat at all from laying on the reflective mat? Thanks again for the video!
Thanks for the response. I've been trying various combination for under mats, but have yet to find something I like.. I haven't tried this one but I think I will give it a go. Thanks again. :)
Why did you use the reflective screen? Surely that beats the object of having the under blanket? I thought it was either an underblanket or a sitmat type thing under you.
Have you been able to use this more than once? Just wondering if you still like it or moved on to something else. I'm gonna try this idea with an old bag too, thanks!
+Julienne Piper I have used it twice. I was going to continue to use it this winter, but I have found a different system (lighter and more compact) that I want to try out. If My new one is a bust, Ill go back to this.
Hey Drew, Great Video. That's so great, you stuck to your planed overnighter even thou you where several hours late. Any more info on your sleeping bag mod ?
Thanks. You can see how I made it in my other video here: ruclips.net/video/UjHgV_8bN7A/видео.html Its just an old bag I put a few cuts in to make it slip over my hammock.
Hey drew. Thanks for the insightful videos. Wanted to get your thoughts on lining your hammock and/or sleeping bag with reflective Mylar instead of the car shade. I realize the thickness would not offer much insulation, but perhaps the reflection would still keep the interior nice and toasty. Note that I live in Texas and won't be traveling to super cold climates any time soon. Anyway thanks in advance for the input! -Eric
+Eric Meeks Thanks. It would be crazy noisy and probably build up condensation. A silk liner or even fleece would work well, unless your just trying to go as light as possible. You can get a mylar blanket for a few bucks, so I would say try it...it may just work for your needs.
Great video. Thank you for sharing. Definitely got a new subscriber now. Also do you think this would work with a double nest hammock? Ive had a hard time finding something affordable that works.
PapaBoner007 I think it would work, but again, you would lose most of your diagonal lay. The sides of the Double nest would get folded in, but it would still probably fit. Thanks for the support!
RevHiker I usually lay straight anyway. I got the double for my wife to relax with me. Im wondering if I try a wider sleeping bag. Either a double bag or a bag made for big and tall people
saw the first video and was delighted to see this one up. I had been wondering this was possible since I have a couple old bags to choose from. Did you ever sew the holes' seams, or is the duct tape holding up pretty well?
Hey Drew, Is the sun screen and the Trifecta doubling up on the same idea or are they a good combination? If you only use one, what it the better of the two for hammock systems?
Oddly enough, NY doesnt have any laws about using them. They legislate everything but that haha. The bag was rated at 0 about 13 years ago. It has seen a lot of use and I was surprised it did as well as it did.
Both the jacket and pants are not insulated. They are columbia shells. I had a mountain hardware micro fleece under my shell jacket and cotton long johns under the shell pants. Thin socks, and my mountain hardware hat. Had gloves with me, but it was way to warm for them. I was actually a little too warm at times and was almost sweating.
RevHiker I was just wondering because I'm trying something similar. It seems you would lose heat from not being able to cinch it down because of the hammock. If you get a synthetic bag that's 40° that weighs around 2lb, it's almost the same weight as a 40° degree UQ-TQ combo.
put it in the bottom of hammock and it is great. Used it when out horse/dog sledding winter time as well. sheep skin/lamb skin is great :) Also often used in couches on a mountain cabin here in Norway :)
Why not put the reflectix on the underside of the hammock in between the sleeping bag and the hammock fabric. I presume you could move around all you want and the reflectix stays in place.
This pea pod design is great for people who like a straight lay and on their backs. I made one very similar but with some stretchy cord at the ends to help hold the holes closed around the hammock and to let it sag with my body but stay attached to the carabiners so it doesn't sag. Very similar to your set-up though! My video only tried it out in about 38F weather, you're brave! ruclips.net/video/SyJSF_okf24/видео.html
I tried all this for a while several years ago, and found something far far better. I never posted about it on hammockforums.com because it seemed to be an unpopular idea (could put a lot of the cottage industry guys out of business), but I wrote about it, with links to a bunch of videos I made about it: guitarz.org/gui-tar/hammockforums-post-about-tubes.txt
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I like that you field tested this in more challenging weather. Most people on RUclips field test and review kit in MUCH easier weather.
Just gave this a go with and old 11oC sleeping bag, works a charm mate! Mine has a zipper that goes all the way to the feet, so I pocked a small hole about halfway down the length of he foot area of the zipper and cable tied the zipper open / shut. Then I could separate the zipper on the top half to create a neat hole to poke the hammock through, without having to use tape to seal in the stuffing. Legend mate, this has saved me hundreds of $$$!
If you do this again with a new bag, you might want to look into sewing an elastic draw string at the ends to tighten it down to avoid the heat loss.
Great video!
camoscrubs Thanks. If I do it with a better bag, I will def do some sewing and redesign. Thanks again!
I can't thank you enough for sharing this. Been trying to find a solution to my Hennessy Hammock underquilt problem for an AGE! Have an old down bag I've had forever and don't mind if it gets wrecked so gonna take the plunge. Here in NZ there's bugger all in the way of UQ solutions so your DIY off the bat scores for $$ and convenience. Thanks again and here's hoping this works out!
How'd you find it?
Dude I love it! Been thinking on an idea very similar to this for ages
You sir are a pioneer. If you're ever up in northern NY you've got a hammock buddy.
Thanks!
If you string up your tap diagonally, you shouldn't need a Ridgeline. I just tied the edges to the tree with a piece of paracord. Hope it helps!
Florian eswein Thanks!
Just want to say thanks for the video I just bought a hammock recently to go backpacking with. I've been watching a lot of videos and I come across yours and I love to save money when I can because I have so much invested in the rest of my gear. I will be definitely be making one of these .thanks again for your videos
Great! Glad it helped
Very nice field testing. I might have to try the windshield reflector this spring. I thought I was the only one that forgot the tarp ridgeline :).
I did find a new use for the pups leash and tie-out when I forgot my ridgeline.
haha glad im not the only one! Thanks for watching!
Just watched the first part and then watched this field test. Awesome job man! I really appreciate all of the practical advice and the fact that you covered things like the pad keeping you warm as you turn on your side etc. I will have to keep an eye out for one of those windshield reflectors, what a cool idea. Thank a lot for sharing man. God Bless! -Lochlainn
Moss Stone Woodlore Thanks...that was the reason I started the channel. Low-cost, practical, real-world stuff. Im glad youre enjoying it! God Bless bro!
I love the idea that you have about the under quilt from a bag but to avoid ruining the bag that you may want to still use on occasion or for others if they camp with you. Why not add two inch Velcro with adhesive to the inside flap on one side of your cut and in the outside flap of the other side of the cut good so it is holding the Velcro in place, then sew it in. This would allow you to close up the end of the bag and mummy hood and still be able to use the bag as designed, without much loss of insulative properties. It will simply be slightly smaller as the Velcro overlaps or both sides of the cut. Just a thought and it becomes multifunctional for its weight in your pack.
I have worked with zipper son and understand their design maybe a little more than the average person . I have some other ideas for even a conventional bag and how to create the same type Velcro closure at the foot of a conventional bag if you are interested.
Fantastic idea, revolutionary even if I may say so! 😎
+Julian Dorrell Thanks. My intention with this was to see if it worked, then improve it if it did.
+Julian Dorrell Would you post a video to show this. I'm not sure I can visualize the Velcro idea but it sounds good, I guess. I was thinking he should be able to close up the hole and maybe offset it so he can go diag. and the slit lower in the hood to allow closure.
Hey Drew not to worry about how long it took you to put out this video. Looks like its a winner and I like that you used a windshield guard. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Gary!
I usually try to find some trees further apart than that personally, that way my hammock doesn't give me the sag in the middle of the hammock and feels much more flat-ish I guess is how I describe it. I also use two 10 foot cargo cinch straps for my rigging, that way I can set it up quickly and after that make quick adjustments if needed. I am glad to see it worked out well I'm definitely going to do this with one of PawPaw's ten pound bags, I'm not too worried about the weight of the bag I don't pack my packs heavy but I'm no ultralight packer either except for the summertime lol. Awesome test I was definitely excited to see a real world "how it felt" experience. That was definitely cool 🥶
This was 9 years ago? Why are they still selling under quilts?
super awesome video man! definitely just gonna invest in another bag rather then the whole underquilt system. subscribed for sure!
thanks! It's a cool system, but it has its drawbacks. For me it wasn't worth it to buy an under quilt system, and this does good enough
Can you answer one question for me tho. Does that pocket of air stay warm underneath you even tho it seems like that by your head it could still let air in?
+James Sellers ya my back stayed nice and warm.
Testing mine out, this weekend. Will take video of it and provide feedback. Of course, mine is only a 20* bag and it's only going to be in the 40s, so may be overkill. What are your thoughts on using the Army poncho liner as an underquilt?
I think it could help...not a ton, but it will provide a little insulation.
great vid. thanks.
since you did not sleep flat diagonally, that mean banana shape posture?
were your back not hurting from it?
i would assume that this is the main draw back of the pod?
Thats the main drawback, but with a pack under my knees I was fine
good tip!
thanks
Fantastic idea my friend! I know this video is a little old but I'm just curious if you're still using this system?
Nice carefully thought out review. Still looking to purchase a underquilt but really like the windshield shade idea, that looks like that might be a solution for summer hanging just to keep the draft off the tush. I have borrowed a Jacks R better grey lock 3 and used my kelty 20 degree bag as a top quilt in 38 degree weather and been almost too warm with just pj pants and a undershirt. I've used the same setup without the underquilt with a foam pad inserted into a Bugaboo blanket in 28 degree, wind howling and been very comfortable. As soon as it stops raining here in Texas I'll be doing some hanging reviews.
regards ...Gadget
Gadget's Gear Thanks! I would love an underquilt...just not in the budget right now lol
Big fan of all your videos! You offer a wealth of knowledge in a genuine and entertaining way. Keep up the great work man!
Thank you Nick. Im glad you enjoy and learn from the videos!
you mentioned in the first video sleeping diagonal are you able to with this system!
+jesse0376 not really. I did mention that I believe... I slept with my pack under my knees to keep them from having pressure on them.
After watching i thought of something. Making the slits as close to the bottom (ground side) as possible. This could give you a more ideal air gap by bringing up the sag. As for the hood make the slit as close to the bag/hood seam. i think this would allow you more hood to cover your face. One down side I think it would not leave as much room in the bag.
I have a MSS that I was thinking of doing this with. Wanted to wait and see if someone else did it. Thanks for the vid great idea.
That seems like it would help. Thanks for watching
Subscribed and liked.
I am in the same boat as you were in, I just don't have the money to drop 200 or 300 on an under quilt. I was thinking of trying this very thing but running the end of the hammock out the side zipper.
+Michael Parks Thanks for the support. Im sure underquilts are great, I just cant spend that cash
Thanks this awsome hints to convert old sleepingbag. I am going to try hammock and tarp camping this year and I don't want to spend big money in case I don't like it so your videos where very helpfull for me to find a way to cut down the budget. I have also subscribe to Your channel because you have plenty of interesting topics
Ciao from Quebec
+Laurent Gouzou Thanks! Glad the videos have helped
😬 totally want to try this. Thanks
Thank yo for the video. I will make an adjustment to your setup though. You also said that you like to sleep a bit diagonally, so do I, and so should try everyone hammock camping. I will try to not cut a whole in the sleeping bag, but put it up by the corners and don't zip it all the way in (my bag has double zipper like suitcases), this should allow me to put the sleeping bag from corner to opposite corner and when I sleep it should be perfect for the diagonal position (-ish). I've also bought something under to protect me from wind, from a dollar store, similar to your windshield protector, I'll see how it goes. I'll stuff my clothes under myself too for insulation. I like your mentality, keep up the good work ;) Thanks
The double zip might solve the problem at the foot end (as long as the zips don't slide undone?) but how would you resolve the issue with the hood fully underneath at the head end?
Awesome DIY project. On the draught problem: should you lower the hole you put in the hood (move it closer to the shoulders), do you think this would improve wind protection / heat loss from the upper body? I'm thinking the hood would cinch closer and cover your forehead better, too.
That would probably help
Looks like you have a lot of room, what size bag did you use vs your shoulder width.
My winter bag has a bottom zip too, to pop your feet out. If you found one like that, you might be able to get away with only cutting the top of the bag for the head cinch.
That sounds like it would work great. Thanks for watching!
Man this was cool,....I mean, cold. Looked like it really did do the trick. I've never tried an underquilt befkrenn. I just use the dual sleeping pads myself. One Ridge Rest pad and a Nemo cosmo Insulated pad. Gave some great ideas bud Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it, and even happier it worked and kept me warm lol!
Keeping warm is a good thing. Lol take care man
Thanks!
Was waiting for this review. What do you think about sewing velcro into the end to try and seal it up a little better and you could still use it as a conventional sleeping bag. Thanks for posting.
I was actually thinking about doing that myself. I think it would work pretty well. I most likely wont do it on this one because it is heavy and bulky, but on the next bag I try it on I will probably do it. Thanks for watching!
great videos! thanks for your reviews and ideas. keep them coming. God bless!
Thanks! God Bless
Kelty makes sleeping bags (Cosmic, I think) that have zippers down in the footbox. I'm going to test it out since I have one already.
Timothy Connolly ya I've heard about those...should work!
Very creative!
Jason Chasteen Thanks Jason!
Do you think the pod system that you used would have been enough insulation with out the pad? If you test this again you might consider loosing the pad until you need it. I'm curious how cold you can go before you need a pad. Happy testing!
I was quite warm so I think I would have been ok without it. Hopefully I can carve out some more testing time. Thanks for watching!
Well, I'm going on a hang this weekend, but don't have enough time to make the bag mod. ....But, I will try the windshield shade under my sleeping bag and just sleep in the hammock. I watched you other video about making it a few days ago, but curious what was the original bag rating?
Do you think if you used a standard rectangle bag instead of mummy, that you would be able to sleep on diagonal, and would it be worth the extra pack space?
+Jason Robinson hard to say. The rectangular bag is good because you can spread your legs out...I kind of point my knees out to the sides when I sleep in my hammock
Good video. Thank you.
Thanks for watching
2 thumbs up. Subscribed and liking it. I do all of the same or similar mods. Keep up the great work.
rusty gray Thanks for the support!
You have had that now over an year. Any updates or new ups and downs?
You didn't have to use any sleeping bag inside the hammock? For how cold was that bag rated?
That just looks like too good to be true so exactly what I should go and try.
Thanks for video!
+WMfin The temp was in the single digits that night. It works great, as long as you stuff your pack under your knees, otherwise, your knees hyperextend and will be sore
I really got a ton of info from you.....bless you!
thanks!
You are on the right track. if your going to buy another bag, get a rectangle instead of a mummy bag. Run your suspension out the corners diagonally through the zipper and you have an asym capable top and bottom quilt. That's what I did! I have a UL down mummy bag I get in..which allows me to cinch up tight around my face...and use a rectangle bag as an underquilt and over quilt also like your trying with your mummy. Total weight is under 4 pounds and toasty down into the teens using bags rated for the 30s but combined...and with my car dash reflector as my pad I cook all night long in just silk weight poly shirt and pants. I dont have to layer up even in the snow in the Rockies.
You're on the right track.You have the right pad. Use your summer weight down mummy bag to get in and grab a rectangle shaped old down bag as your outer layer. Then you can sleep diagonal like you want to in that baby with no issues. I do.
cool, thanks for the tips. I will give that a try
Great idea Mathew with the rectangle/asym setup
Nice vid; glad the sleeping bag worked out for you. Were you able to sleep on the diagonal though?
Nomolo2k8 Thanks. And, no, I wasnt able to sleep diagonally. I put my pack under my knees for the support and it worked really well.
Do you sleep in a bag in the hammock as well? That was not clear. Don't think we get down to the temps to need under quilting but great improv sir.
Yes...sorry I wasnt clear...works great
If I can find a cheap/free bag, I am going to try this! Thanks!!
have fun!
Just a thought. What if you cut a slit into the footbox and the hood, and then sewed a zipper. Opening the zipper would allow a slit for the hammock to pass through, but then you could close the zippers for tent systems.
Or in-tents systems ;) because they're intense. I'm so punny!
+Eric Meeks haha, that would probably work out pretty well. my only concern would be the zipper getting caught on the hammock and possibly tearing it. It's a bit of a slim chance, but it did cross my mind. Thanks for the idea!
Nice video man and this is an idea that I have been throwing around as well. Nice to see someone doing it with good results. Thanks for the video. Quick question for you... did you sweat at all from laying on the reflective mat? Thanks again for the video!
with these Temps, no. But when it's warmer, there have been times when I have had a little sweat. That's like mid 60s and above though
Thanks for the response. I've been trying various combination for under mats, but have yet to find something I like.. I haven't tried this one but I think I will give it a go. Thanks again. :)
+XoshBitt good luck
Why did you use the reflective screen? Surely that beats the object of having the under blanket? I thought it was either an underblanket or a sitmat type thing under you.
I used it because the temps were lower than what my bag was rated for.
Have you been able to use this more than once? Just wondering if you still like it or moved on to something else. I'm gonna try this idea with an old bag too, thanks!
+Julienne Piper I have used it twice. I was going to continue to use it this winter, but I have found a different system (lighter and more compact) that I want to try out. If My new one is a bust, Ill go back to this.
Will this work even if the sleeping bag is not down
Just an idea but you could use para cord to tie the foot end of the sleeping bag and that would stop the cold
+Spencer Young good idea...a canadian jam knot would work well for that
Hey Drew, Great Video. That's so great, you stuck to your planed overnighter even thou you where several hours late.
Any more info on your sleeping bag mod ?
Thanks. You can see how I made it in my other video here: ruclips.net/video/UjHgV_8bN7A/видео.html
Its just an old bag I put a few cuts in to make it slip over my hammock.
Would a double sleeping bag work to be able to lie diagonally?
Hey drew. Thanks for the insightful videos. Wanted to get your thoughts on lining your hammock and/or sleeping bag with reflective Mylar instead of the car shade. I realize the thickness would not offer much insulation, but perhaps the reflection would still keep the interior nice and toasty. Note that I live in Texas and won't be traveling to super cold climates any time soon. Anyway thanks in advance for the input! -Eric
+Eric Meeks Thanks. It would be crazy noisy and probably build up condensation. A silk liner or even fleece would work well, unless your just trying to go as light as possible. You can get a mylar blanket for a few bucks, so I would say try it...it may just work for your needs.
+RevHiker Word. Didn't think about it being super noisy haha.
Nice one Drew, how low did the temp get to that night?
NWS put it at 0deg even. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Thank you for sharing. Definitely got a new subscriber now. Also do you think this would work with a double nest hammock? Ive had a hard time finding something affordable that works.
PapaBoner007 I think it would work, but again, you would lose most of your diagonal lay. The sides of the Double nest would get folded in, but it would still probably fit. Thanks for the support!
RevHiker I usually lay straight anyway. I got the double for my wife to relax with me. Im wondering if I try a wider sleeping bag. Either a double bag or a bag made for big and tall people
That could work. Even if you used a rectangular bag, there would be a lot more foot room
saw the first video and was delighted to see this one up. I had been wondering this was possible since I have a couple old bags to choose from.
Did you ever sew the holes' seams, or is the duct tape holding up pretty well?
+Ross Potts I have only used it a few times in the winter, but the tape has done better than expected
What temp bag were you using?
Cool
Thanks!
Hey Drew, Is the sun screen and the Trifecta doubling up on the same idea or are they a good combination? If you only use one, what it the better of the two for hammock systems?
I have just worked out a pod system for the Trifecta, but it doesn't take the place of a sleeping pad if you're using it as a sleeping bag
+RevHiker you will need to share more about the pod system soon! lol
+Michael Reed it's in the works!
+RevHiker I thought it might be. I look forward to seeing it!
Well done sir, downside is, it's only free if one already has an old 0° sleeping bag lying around aha
haha very true
No tree straps?
nope
RevHiker Okay on your own land but most parks require them.
Pretty impressive getting down to zero in that pod. What was the original bag rated at?
Oddly enough, NY doesnt have any laws about using them. They legislate everything but that haha. The bag was rated at 0 about 13 years ago. It has seen a lot of use and I was surprised it did as well as it did.
Did you wear that insulated jacket and pants sleeping?
Both the jacket and pants are not insulated. They are columbia shells. I had a mountain hardware micro fleece under my shell jacket and cotton long johns under the shell pants. Thin socks, and my mountain hardware hat. Had gloves with me, but it was way to warm for them. I was actually a little too warm at times and was almost sweating.
RevHiker I was just wondering because I'm trying something similar. It seems you would lose heat from not being able to cinch it down because of the hammock. If you get a synthetic bag that's 40° that weighs around 2lb, it's almost the same weight as a 40° degree UQ-TQ combo.
Blake Adkins I did this with an old 20° and it was really tight and uncomfortable
Mine was a pretty roomy bag to begin with so it worked well.
good field test, if on short walks i use the sheep skin underneath.
Thanks...How does that sheepskin work for you?
put it in the bottom of hammock and it is great. Used it when out horse/dog sledding winter time as well. sheep skin/lamb skin is great :) Also often used in couches on a mountain cabin here in Norway :)
That sounds awesome.
I'm just gonna ask a stupid question 0° - is that celsius or fahrenheit ?
Fahrenheit
Thanks for the quick response. Great job on the innovative solution by the way.
Why not put the reflectix on the underside of the hammock in between the sleeping bag and the hammock fabric. I presume you could move around all you want and the reflectix stays in place.
You should really use tree straps, so as not to hurt the trees (with rope).
I use muletape, which is essentially the same thing. Havent used rope/cord in a long time
For those of us without a beard to keep the neck drafts out, I guess my coat bunched up around my neck would do the trick.
lol... well a neck gaiter or a scarf would do the trick
This pea pod design is great for people who like a straight lay and on their backs. I made one very similar but with some stretchy cord at the ends to help hold the holes closed around the hammock and to let it sag with my body but stay attached to the carabiners so it doesn't sag. Very similar to your set-up though! My video only tried it out in about 38F weather, you're brave! ruclips.net/video/SyJSF_okf24/видео.html
I tried all this for a while several years ago, and found something far far better. I never posted about it on hammockforums.com because it seemed to be an unpopular idea (could put a lot of the cottage industry guys out of business), but I wrote about it, with links to a bunch of videos I made about it: guitarz.org/gui-tar/hammockforums-post-about-tubes.txt
Great write up. But the vids are all "private" 😭