I went up to this from the T300 GT edition. Completely agree with every point of this review. Very happy-my driving has improved ten-fold. I can’t wait for the load cell brake upgrade. Folks have criticized the included sport car rim but once mounted and in game, it’s impressive.
Did you have any problems with the force feedback? Just bought one brand new out the box and the force feedback keeps goin out in turns. Feel like this the one i should of just got instead
@@Isa-t6v3v i returned it. Imo the t300 can’t handle gt7. Its like having a system in your car with a powerful amp but weak speakers so it causes the speaker to blow. I couldn’t play cause the force feedback kept goin out. Even at the lowest settings it kept goin out and when the settings are that low the experience sucks. Me personally ill prob just go wit a dd pro or tg2. I just got into sim racing so i was kinda sold on the first supposedly “good” wheel i came across. Should of done more research because to me you have to spend a little money for a good set up for a great experience. Anybody wit more knowledge than me feel free to chime in but ima probably just spend a lil more money and get a dd pro or tg2 with the lcm pedals. And even still i saw some wheels aren’t fully compatible and waitin on an update so you dont get the full experience on ps5/certain games 🤷🏾♂️. Somebody point me in the right direction lol
I would recommend going with fanatec I had the tgt2 returned it as it was faulty and got the t598 but it’s been nearly 30 days so I’m contemplating wetner to send it back before the return period is over
Are they going to release just the base unit??? , no wheel or pedals , me and my son's both sim race together and they both have all the thrustmaster gear , and I have all simucube ultimate . I would love to upgrade them from their t300 units
I have a T300 with the Ferrari 599xx Evo wheel and T-LCM pedals. I’m waiting for the base to be offered by itself and then get an adaptor for my Ferrari wheel. Some reviewer said first quarter of 2025 for base only sales
Loved the review, what would you get as an upgrade for a Logitech G29 (PS5 compatibility is a must). This T598 or the TGT 2? Mind that for the price of the TGT 2 I can get the T598 + TCLM Pedals or a better Steering wheel. Thank you
@Rickk69er I understand your point of view, but logitech doesn't really have an ecosystem. With Thrustmaster or fanatec I can invest on stuff and a few years down the line upgrade on a component level (base, wheel, pedals, etc)
You mean TGT II for GT right? I don’t think this T598 base is better than the TGTII. TM needs to offer maybe another stronger base by next year for console. At least 8NM
it's only a couple inches taller than most other wheels. I'm surprised people have their TV's low enough to be concerned about that but I also don't have one those cockpit and TV stand setups. Do those not all adjustments?? And if your TV is on a table or entertainment center, there are definitely ways to raise it no matter how big.
Here in the UK the logitech g29 is now £179. This Thrustmaster when back in stock is gonna be £449. So it’s definitely not close in price. It should be a lot better than starter products because it's alot more money 😅
It's that much in the uk wow , in canada you can find it for around 500 cdn plus all the taxes😢 and the g29 is 385 at normal price and 300 on sale , I would think a wheel that is direct drive and a much bigger eco system in the long run is the better choice but honestly the logitech G pro is a great wheel I would have bought that if it had more add ons , but went with Simucube ultimate instead . But for a child a g29 is a amazing place to start for them .
@@JtotheM that wheel feels very cheap and plastic and the ergonomic is faulty with your thumb rest.. these are not upgrade from a g29.. direct drive is very bulky only the ffb is better then the g29
@Arvidje i came from a g920. Just like the g29. Its way better in every aspect. Massive upgrade. No more cheap clunky noises. Just smooth sailing very strong FFB. Its all better
It's very much an entry level DD base. What strength of FFB users want is very subjective. I prefer less FFB, just enough to feel what the car is doing and this wheel does just that.
So the base is still managing the braking & accel. Curious if you can run the base with pedals from another brand but you’re config is definitely promising. Thanks for the reply.
@@JayKBrathe base can only use thrustmaster pedals directly connected. So on a playstation you can only use thrustmaster pedals, but you can use any thrusmtaster pedals, or no pedals at all. I bet your friend plugged them into the incorrect port which does stop functionality of the wheel since something isnt connected correctly. But on pc you can use any pedals from any manufacturer but you have to buy that manufacturers usb adapter and plug directly into pc
You forgot to mention jitter thats down right scary to give to kids. Or the lack of compatibility options in the flagship GT7 game it still doesn't support correctly. Or the overheat issues...? Lol what kind of review is this???? Enjoying that thrust master review money, no doubt? Sad.
Tgt2 + Tlcm is still TM’s best option on PlayStation! The wheel has been tested on the highest level in GT sports and GT7 The T598 is not a competitive wheel and pedal set! If you already have tgt2, this is not an upgrade!!!
I bought the g923. Huge mistake. Still cant get the shifter. The pedals are almost on top of eachother making impossible to NOT push 2 pedals with one foot. Another problem with g923 and many other wheels is the garbage 2 piece usb cable. It always fails at the connector that doesnt need to be there in the 1st place.
These will be great for those who already have lots of thrustmaster gear . But I am hoping they will just sell it as a base unit as would make a great upgrade for my son's sim set up,s and keep them away from my simucube ultimate .
nah,,,, feels too much like a prototype system to me. I love their wheels but i would pay more to get their better stuff. If you can gather 500$ then you can gather 900$ and get a way better system.
Tgt2 + Tlcm is still TM’s best option on PlayStation! The wheel has been tested on the highest level in GT sports and GT7 The T598 is not a competitive wheel and pedal set! If you already have tgt2, this is not an upgrade!!!
I went up to this from the T300 GT edition. Completely agree with every point of this review. Very happy-my driving has improved ten-fold. I can’t wait for the load cell brake upgrade. Folks have criticized the included sport car rim but once mounted and in game, it’s impressive.
Did you have any problems with the force feedback? Just bought one brand new out the box and the force feedback keeps goin out in turns. Feel like this the one i should of just got instead
@@Dhewlett93does yours feel abit draggy aswel
@@Isa-t6v3v i returned it. Imo the t300 can’t handle gt7. Its like having a system in your car with a powerful amp but weak speakers so it causes the speaker to blow. I couldn’t play cause the force feedback kept goin out. Even at the lowest settings it kept goin out and when the settings are that low the experience sucks. Me personally ill prob just go wit a dd pro or tg2. I just got into sim racing so i was kinda sold on the first supposedly “good” wheel i came across. Should of done more research because to me you have to spend a little money for a good set up for a great experience. Anybody wit more knowledge than me feel free to chime in but ima probably just spend a lil more money and get a dd pro or tg2 with the lcm pedals. And even still i saw some wheels aren’t fully compatible and waitin on an update so you dont get the full experience on ps5/certain games 🤷🏾♂️. Somebody point me in the right direction lol
I would recommend going with fanatec I had the tgt2 returned it as it was faulty and got the t598 but it’s been nearly 30 days so I’m contemplating wetner to send it back before the return period is over
Great in-depth analysis as always buddy.
Much appreciated!
The red chair!!!! That is a big base. Thank you for the review. Peace✌️
TSPC was never a playstation wheel that is a PC/XBOX only wheel set up, i think you must have been meaning the TGT2
Which is better that this one.
Indid mean the TGT II. TM uses too many T in their naming, lol.
@@TheSimpitdo you think that this wheel base will be good with the tlcm pedals ? Will be better than tgt2 ?
The TGT2 is a great wheelbase. I wouldn't upgrade unless you want to go to a big DD wheelbase, like the T818 or stronger
@@CDTB_PICA T598 it's just too weak, it wouldn't be an update at all.
Nice to see you again, what are the monitor brands? refresh rates & size?
Goodbye T300 GT, Hello T598😍
The definitive review here 👌
Much appreciated!
Are they going to release just the base unit??? , no wheel or pedals , me and my son's both sim race together and they both have all the thrustmaster gear , and I have all simucube ultimate . I would love to upgrade them from their t300 units
I have a T300 with the Ferrari 599xx Evo wheel and T-LCM pedals. I’m waiting for the base to be offered by itself and then get an adaptor for my Ferrari wheel.
Some reviewer said first quarter of 2025 for base only sales
As Tim said, they will offer the base on its own in the near future.
Should be around February they said for the base alone
Good review, whats your motion setup? Looks like just the right amount of movement.
I'm using an early version of the Dbox Mercedes motion platform.
3:00 what is the secret port?
I love that button box is it custom or can it be purchased
You can get the box from PXN
Loved the review, what would you get as an upgrade for a Logitech G29 (PS5 compatibility is a must).
This T598 or the TGT 2? Mind that for the price of the TGT 2 I can get the T598 + TCLM Pedals or a better Steering wheel.
Thank you
Save your money and get a Logitech Pro. Don't waste your money on this plastic garbage
@Rickk69er I understand your point of view, but logitech doesn't really have an ecosystem. With Thrustmaster or fanatec I can invest on stuff and a few years down the line upgrade on a component level (base, wheel, pedals, etc)
You mean TGT II for GT right? I don’t think this T598 base is better than the TGTII. TM needs to offer maybe another stronger base by next year for console. At least 8NM
Have you tried both for an extended period of time?
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Is it just me or is that pedal plate very narrow? How are you going to add a third pedal to it without them being very very close to each other?
Yeah they are really narrow. Probably just gonna buy the t-lcm rather than wait for the loadcell
Load cell brake add on will come with a wider base included@timzhou5971
Losscell addon will come with wider plate
I got it and I love it
what rig are you using?
I'm using the Next Level FGT 160
The size of the base is crazy, as only 5, 7 myself would i be even able to see the TV?
I'm the same height as you and yeah it does obstruct the view a bit, but the built in screen helps a little
it's only a couple inches taller than most other wheels. I'm surprised people have their TV's low enough to be concerned about that but I also don't have one those cockpit and TV stand setups. Do those not all adjustments?? And if your TV is on a table or entertainment center, there are definitely ways to raise it no matter how big.
@@HugoStiglitz88 i think they want their wheel to still line up with the one ingame
Channel name looks like "Simp It" tho haha
This vs logitec G pro?
Just picked up my T 598 any ideal of why it keeps on disconnecting on its own after a lap or two ?
I would check your PC USB port settings and make sure it is not set to power save mode.
@@TheSimpit thank you
My pedals keep slipping on even with the grippers
Why do people give a shit about feeling little motor steps when the power is off? What am I missing? It's completely gone when the unit is powered on.
Here in the UK the logitech g29 is now £179. This Thrustmaster when back in stock is gonna be £449. So it’s definitely not close in price. It should be a lot better than starter products because it's alot more money 😅
It's that much in the uk wow , in canada you can find it for around 500 cdn plus all the taxes😢 and the g29 is 385 at normal price and 300 on sale , I would think a wheel that is direct drive and a much bigger eco system in the long run is the better choice but honestly the logitech G pro is a great wheel I would have bought that if it had more add ons , but went with Simucube ultimate instead . But for a child a g29 is a amazing place to start for them .
It is much better than a starter product. It blows the g29 away in all aspects. Power, build, and performance. Worthwhile upgrade
Well this is 1 of the best priced entry direct drive products, the g29 is bottom of the barrel
@@JtotheM that wheel feels very cheap and plastic and the ergonomic is faulty with your thumb rest.. these are not upgrade from a g29.. direct drive is very bulky only the ffb is better then the g29
@Arvidje i came from a g920. Just like the g29. Its way better in every aspect. Massive upgrade. No more cheap clunky noises. Just smooth sailing very strong FFB. Its all better
I have DD Logi. and when I set it smaller to 7 nm it is loose all the feelings, so I think its maybe good for money but not on pro. level.
It's very much an entry level DD base. What strength of FFB users want is very subjective. I prefer less FFB, just enough to feel what the car is doing and this wheel does just that.
Tried went back to my TGT 2
Does it still turn into a brick if you don’t use the TM pedals?
You don't need to use TM pedals with this base.
@ hmm… my buddy returned the T598 for this reason. Would be awesome if you could test this. He said without TM pedals connected, base does nothing…
@@JayKBra im in a wheelchair and cant use the pedals at all and my t598works just fine, u just have to remap the buttons!
So the base is still managing the braking & accel. Curious if you can run the base with pedals from another brand but you’re config is definitely promising. Thanks for the reply.
@@JayKBrathe base can only use thrustmaster pedals directly connected. So on a playstation you can only use thrustmaster pedals, but you can use any thrusmtaster pedals, or no pedals at all. I bet your friend plugged them into the incorrect port which does stop functionality of the wheel since something isnt connected correctly. But on pc you can use any pedals from any manufacturer but you have to buy that manufacturers usb adapter and plug directly into pc
Idc how great it may be, the logo itself screams cheap junk. The overall look itself looks cheap imo.
Because it is cheap lol compared to other dds anyways
You forgot to mention jitter thats down right scary to give to kids. Or the lack of compatibility options in the flagship GT7 game it still doesn't support correctly. Or the overheat issues...? Lol what kind of review is this???? Enjoying that thrust master review money, no doubt? Sad.
00:29, please stop this blue intro or use a different color instead.
Could probably put his Simpit logo there instead.
A color offends you? Get a life...
Save your money get a Logitech Pro
Why?
Tgt2 + Tlcm is still TM’s best option on PlayStation! The wheel has been tested on the highest level in GT sports and GT7
The T598 is not a competitive wheel and pedal set!
If you already have tgt2, this is not an upgrade!!!
I bought the g923. Huge mistake. Still cant get the shifter. The pedals are almost on top of eachother making impossible to NOT push 2 pedals with one foot. Another problem with g923 and many other wheels is the garbage 2 piece usb cable. It always fails at the connector that doesnt need to be there in the 1st place.
Just another gimmick and low end trash! Trashmaster really need to make better wheels and make an actual metal qr 🤣
I had it and returned it same day 😂 its trash plastic cheap asf even for that price
They make better wheels for them but they are 300 bucks. I think its one of the best ps5 wheels out there.
These will be great for those who already have lots of thrustmaster gear . But I am hoping they will just sell it as a base unit as would make a great upgrade for my son's sim set up,s and keep them away from my simucube ultimate .
It also wasn't mentioned it has a 10nm overshoot. Which is very noticeable when it hits
Haters gunna hate, just means theyre doing it correct
nah,,,, feels too much like a prototype system to me. I love their wheels but i would pay more to get their better stuff. If you can gather 500$ then you can gather 900$ and get a way better system.
Is not a prototype. A ready out the box experience pc,ps5. Its excellent
Haters gunna hate, just means thrustmaster is doing it correct
@@joeschmoe5009 for 200 more u had the simagic + neo with Black friday .. this thing would feel as a ripoff
Tgt2 + Tlcm is still TM’s best option on PlayStation! The wheel has been tested on the highest level in GT sports and GT7
The T598 is not a competitive wheel and pedal set!
If you already have tgt2, this is not an upgrade!!!