The Truth about being a Clinical Psychologist

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • An interview with clinical psychologist (and also my supervisor woo), Emmanuel. Emmanuel has been a clinical psychologist for ten years, the last five of which have been in a CAMHS single point of access service.
    Chapters:
    0:00 Intro
    0:47 What is a Clinical Psychologist?
    1:06 Why Clinical Psychology?
    1:56 How is a Clinical Psychologist different from x therapist?
    2:59 What makes a Clinical Psychologist so "evidence-based"?
    3:35 What specifically does your job involve?
    4:07 How do you make sense of the information a young person provides?
    4:42 What is a typical day like for you in CAMHS?
    6:57 Best part of your job?
    8:14 Worst part of your job?
    9:00 Clinical psychology in the private sector vs. NHS
    11:12 The future of Clinical Psychology
    12:03 Advice to someone thinking of becoming a Clinical Psychologist?
    Who am I? 🙋‍♂️
    I'm Francis, a Trainee Clinical Psychologist at Oxford University. I previously did psychology degrees at Cambridge (Undergrad) and UCL (Master's). I upload videos every few weeks about psychology, university life and occasionally self-improvement.
    Feel free to have a browse of the channel🫶
    Buy me a coffee: ko-fi.com/francismadden
    For enquiries, please go to:
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Комментарии • 88

  • @Caitlinje_
    @Caitlinje_ Год назад +213

    I’m in my second year of university and I’ve found this video so useful because I’m aspiring to be a clinical psychologist. It’s really great to hear a first hand experience from someone in the role

  • @kaitlyncarlow5206
    @kaitlyncarlow5206 Год назад +88

    I'm looking at changing my major to psychology to eventually go down the clinical route and this definitely helped me understand what all that would intel.

  • @P_Izenberg
    @P_Izenberg Год назад +54

    in the U.S. and Canada, the primary difference practically between a psychotherapist/counsellor and a clinical or registered psychologist is that the psychologist is trained in formal assessment processes and can give diagnoses. Whereas the former do not. Yet, in terms of therapeutic modalities and interventions, they all emphasize evidence based interventions and can employ a wide range of them based on their training. There is a lot of overlap in that sense.

    • @lamentate07
      @lamentate07 11 месяцев назад +2

      The diagnostic aspect is a tad overrated in the sense that psychologists often get it wrong and then try to crowbar treatment modalities into the mix to fit with their diagnosis.

    • @CR34TIV3M1ND
      @CR34TIV3M1ND 4 месяца назад

      Glad someone commented this 😊

    • @CR34TIV3M1ND
      @CR34TIV3M1ND 4 месяца назад

      Also in Tx at least, both can diagnose. Although, I do not find it helpful to. If we are being honest it’s more so for insurance purposes it seems and for access of care

    • @AronTorras
      @AronTorras 3 месяца назад

      What’s the difference between a psychotherapist and a clinical psychologist if you can just explain those two

    • @screamfingers
      @screamfingers Месяц назад +1

      A major difference as well of course is pay and the way you are subsidised by government/insurance companies. Here in Australia you get a larger Medicare rebate if you have the title clinical psychologist vs just "psychologist" for example.

  • @Albacore877
    @Albacore877 5 месяцев назад +6

    This doctor of psychology is the very first to explain clearly that certain therapies are specifically designed for specific client presenting issues and concerns verses finding the best model that gets results for client issues! Thank you so much for asking the right questions and for the psychologist providing clear responses!

  • @lucaschristian135
    @lucaschristian135 Год назад +20

    Im about to start studying psychology in october with dreams of becoming a clinical psychologist so this was very helpful thanks!

  • @mannybee536
    @mannybee536 Год назад +14

    The subtle humour in these long but massively informative videos makes them really engaging :D

  • @lamboXVI
    @lamboXVI Год назад +41

    I've just started at Sixth form and aspire to go into Clinical Psychology in the future, this was very helpful to get an insight!

    • @theharshtruthoutthere
      @theharshtruthoutthere 3 месяца назад

      Turn to bible and allow CHRIST to be your therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist. No man nor women fits to be one. All are sinners and without glory, all are tempted and suffer the same.
      All are expected to REPENT AND BORN AGAIN, to LIVE HOLY AND GO AND SIN NO MORE.
      All are weak in the daily fight between their spirit and flesh.
      All these therapist, psychologist and psychiatrist, this world provides, can do is:
      to deceive and steal.
      They deceived you through all these “diagnoses” and they steal your money, through all the pills which you “need”.
      In short: they poison your mind and your overall health, leaving you with neither one.
      Therapist, Psychologist and Psychiatrist = Field where no human soul, never ever going to fit of being an help, no matter the among of years spend in “medical schools” or the decree gotten from there.
      ALL of us are daily deceived, no matter the walks of life.

  • @anjalikumar1257
    @anjalikumar1257 Год назад +6

    Loved this video! Very helpful, thank you!

  • @YasLove111
    @YasLove111 Год назад +1

    Thank you Francis!! So helpful!

  • @callummanchester2503
    @callummanchester2503 Год назад +5

    From Emmanuel to Emmanuel, the journey never stops

  • @ocarter3560
    @ocarter3560 Год назад +9

    God's work! Thank you Francis, it's so hard to distinguish different psychology professions in the uk!

  • @studypsych3242
    @studypsych3242 Год назад +3

    Very insightful video, thanks for sharing

  • @keeganh2878
    @keeganh2878 Год назад +1

    Thank you for providing this content :)

  • @umairlareef3771
    @umairlareef3771 Год назад +21

    ty for this video, Im also looking to be a clinical psychologist in the UK. This was very helpful and confirmed I want to be a clinical psychologist

  • @nearijahlumsden2042
    @nearijahlumsden2042 Месяц назад +1

    For someone that is thinking of entering this field I found this interview very informative thank u and we done

  • @aru_orusoul-bar
    @aru_orusoul-bar Год назад

    omg, man your videos deserve to be seen!!!!

  • @mahouda5119
    @mahouda5119 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for your sharing! ❤❤

  • @destinyfaith6759
    @destinyfaith6759 Год назад

    Very very helpful! Thank you

  • @fresh_view
    @fresh_view Год назад

    Great in depth video.

  • @user-qc5fh1qv3r
    @user-qc5fh1qv3r 9 месяцев назад

    Very useful video!

  • @connorh17
    @connorh17 11 месяцев назад

    What a great guy. Thanks for the vid

  • @Jaybo454
    @Jaybo454 Месяц назад

    I do really appreciate this video, and I do have one wish for future videos that cover similar content-Give more time and weight to the notion that there is not just one way to be a therapist and there is also not just one way to be a “Clinical Psychologist”. If we are assuming that the audience is going to be people learning about clinical psychology for the first time, then we need to be more thorough and careful about “hard stop” statements.
    If my only information about what a clinical psychologist is and does was this video, then I very easily could walk into my first therapists office, ask what their therapeutic orientation is, and if they say anything other than CBT or a CBT-cousin, then they may be delegitimized/devalued. It’s just a random thought I had, nothing too serious, but I figured I’d share the stream of consciousness.
    Discussing common factors research may also be helpful in identifying mechanism of therapeutic change that are empirically supported.

  • @ember8284
    @ember8284 Месяц назад

    I'm about to finish my comp scie degree and I think this is what I want to do down the line!

  • @RockDove5212
    @RockDove5212 Год назад +9

    Totally agree with your point about all therapies being essentially evidence based otherwise they wouldn't be in popular use. CBT is hugely overrated imo.

    • @Emily-ln3zv
      @Emily-ln3zv 3 месяца назад +2

      I find it comes across as more than a little arrogant to assume that being evidence based and quantitatively measurable is the preserve of clinical psychologists and what sets them apart from other therapeutic approaches

  • @R0bert2
    @R0bert2 9 месяцев назад +2

    What apps, websites, have you found most useful in studying for exams and that you recommend for someone just starting a psyD Clinical Psychology program?

  • @ioanaiulia3116
    @ioanaiulia3116 9 месяцев назад +3

    I’m going on my 3rd year in psychology and my wish is to go into clinical after but I’m getting myself worked up because I’d like to have some on hands work experience. Any advice on that? Thank you for your informative video.

  • @lamentate07
    @lamentate07 11 месяцев назад +7

    The danger with private practice/sole trader psychologists is that there is nobody watching them, so they can get away with potentially unethical behaviour. They can also become too set in their ways.

    • @FrancisMadden
      @FrancisMadden  11 месяцев назад +5

      Very true, I think this can also happen in the NHS but yeah in the private world anyone can call themselves a 'psychologist'

    • @lamentate07
      @lamentate07 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@FrancisMadden My concern isn't about just 'anyone' calling themselves a psychologist.
      It's just too easy for a dodgy person to operate in that industry, especially on their own. Unless major misconduct has taken place, it's basically your word against theirs.
      Many of these people have the necessary qualifications and are clinical psychologists as well. I've had direct experience with them.

    • @gabred5800
      @gabred5800 День назад

      That's what scares me a little.

  • @alinaahn
    @alinaahn Год назад

    Good day, thank you for the video. I couldn’t find info about the salary in this video, and I guess it’s part of the profession, so I wonder if it’s true that average salary for experienced clinical psychologist is around 50k?

  • @user-ll7ms7go5k
    @user-ll7ms7go5k Месяц назад

    Hello, with license in Theology can i continue for a master and a Doctorate in Clinical Psychology please?
    If yes What Master choose, B.A or BS?

  • @robinwong8880
    @robinwong8880 9 месяцев назад +2

    I’m not entirely sure that measuring (objectively) outcomes through psychometrics is what defines a clinical psychologist as opposed to any other psychologist…a forensic psychologist or a counselling psychologist can also implement the use of psychometrics…

  • @sajanghimire6153
    @sajanghimire6153 11 месяцев назад

    Emmanuel seems lovely

  • @SonamSingh-sp6ey
    @SonamSingh-sp6ey 4 месяца назад

    💙

  • @quincypereira9012
    @quincypereira9012 Год назад +2

    Who conducts the assessment? is it done by the clinical psychologist, or is the role assigned to someone else?

  • @bryanferguson4927
    @bryanferguson4927 3 месяца назад

    Every licensed "therapist" uses "evidence-based models," to treat their patients, as well as various modalities like CBT. : )

  • @ayaatal-sudani341
    @ayaatal-sudani341 Год назад

    Hi there! Do you have any videos on dclinpsych interviews prepping & Qs asked please?

    • @FrancisMadden
      @FrancisMadden  Год назад

      Hellooo not at the moment but I plan to make one!

  • @RockDove5212
    @RockDove5212 Год назад

    The Mentalisation-Based therapy the CP mentioned using was created by a man who moved away from a career in clinical psychology into psychoanalytical psychotherapy.

  • @VladyslavKL
    @VladyslavKL 8 месяцев назад

    🕊

  • @LawlessRaafay
    @LawlessRaafay 2 месяца назад

    how much money can we make as a starter. ?

  • @thebackyardpsychologist
    @thebackyardpsychologist 5 месяцев назад

    whats the average salary of a clinical psychologist in the NHS?

  • @golden22h8
    @golden22h8 Год назад

    trying to understand if i should pick psychiatry or Psychology ❤

    • @Rascal8372
      @Rascal8372 25 дней назад +1

      Almost same amount of time invested. Psychiatry 3 times the money plus more power to make decisions and more respect.
      Statistically easier to get into med school than a PhD psych program. Tougher load to be a psychiatrist of course but work hard for the MD or don’t bother. I have a PhD in clinical psych.

    • @sirbaguette8378
      @sirbaguette8378 22 дня назад

      ​@@Rascal8372
      Psychiatry is a way longer route...
      In the UK, to be a clinical psychologist, you need 3 year BSc + 1 year master degree (which is optional) + around 1 year (usually 2 if no master degree) clinical experience + 3 year Doctorate. So, in total around 7-8 years.
      To be a psychiatrist, you need 5 years med school + 2 years foundation training + 6 years of psychiatry training to specialise. That's 13 years.
      Also, I'm not trying to dunk on psychiatrists, I think they're very important to the multidisciplinary treatment along with psychologists, but psychiatry is not very well respected among laypeople. Whether it's from the anti-psychiatry movement or the view that psychiatrists overprescribe drugs.

    • @Rascal8372
      @Rascal8372 19 дней назад

      @@sirbaguette8378 in the US it is 12 years for psychiatry and 10-12 for clinical psychology to be completely licensed. The money difference is massive. Early career psychiatrist 300-400k vs 70-110k as a psychologist. Psychologists in the US can prescribe in some states with another degree. That only adds a small chunk more.
      Being a psychologist takes too long not making any money to finally make what your peers in other fields are making the whole time. Not enough money to catch up bc of student loans for some and years of lost earning. Psychologists get very little respect. We have to defer to MDs. We are treated as masters degree counselors and not paid that differently from them.

  • @zayedalzubaidi4203
    @zayedalzubaidi4203 Год назад +4

    Can I ask how many years have he studied? And was it hard?

    • @Killerpsychologist
      @Killerpsychologist 4 месяца назад

      To become a forensic psychologist you need a doctorate degree and a license under the Board of Psychology (BOP). It takes at least 11 years to get all of the degrees and to complete the list of requirements for licensing.

  • @Maahigehlot844
    @Maahigehlot844 9 месяцев назад +8

    Why this clinical psychologist look depressed

  • @Howleebra
    @Howleebra 4 месяца назад

    I was first convinced that my father had a psychological problem when I gave him a brand new high quality winter jacket yet he would not wear it insisting to keep the jacket he found at the run down old nightclubs he had bought... this junk ratty jacket wasn't anywhere near as warm and made him look pitiful as it finally dawned on me that was his intention all along. I had seen several odd behaviors out of him but this was the bombshell that made me realize he was just like his brothers who could never keep anything nice or look vaguely presentable choosing instead to walk around with bushy unkempt hair ill-fitting clothes and worn out shoes despite very well having a pocket full of money and a surprisingly large bank account
    They had a strong mother who died early and a weak simpering father who left the family likely to pursue a gay lifestyle
    Six siblings in all and three males lived rough disheveled lifestyles while all three females were seemingly healthy and normal in every way

  • @GRIMJIMTV
    @GRIMJIMTV 7 месяцев назад +1

    This kid looks weird

  • @tuanxvietnam
    @tuanxvietnam Год назад +1

    SHAVE THAT THING OFF RIGHT NOW

  • @jonathanlorio3265
    @jonathanlorio3265 Год назад +7

    Psychodynamic therapy is also evidenced-based. This is the problem with a lot of British schools and models obsessed with CBT as the gold standard. It’s great, but long form types of therapies (psychoanalytic, Jungian) surpass the incubator effect whereby the client experienced relief from symptoms for a very long time past the end of the therapeutic relationship whereas with CBT that’s rare.
    This guy is a bit ignorant on that point. Do your research.

    • @pregerzoreo4886
      @pregerzoreo4886 Год назад +6

      I thank that's very harsh tbh. The dude was only doing his master's not like he was a clinpsy yet

    • @RockDove5212
      @RockDove5212 Год назад

      @@pregerzoreo4886 I think he meant the CP appeared ignorant . It was the student who raised the question of what qualifies a therapy to be called 'evidence'based', in line with this man's comment.

    • @Tiffany-ov2jf
      @Tiffany-ov2jf Год назад

      Just curious- not to sound rude, do u have experience with that? Ive heard psychodynamic therapies are always a lengthy and expensive process, also being ineffective compared to modern CBT and all...