Pip was hated by the characters within the show, but there’s a lot of South Park fans who actually liked him. And I personally feel like it was completely unnecessary to kill him off.
What I love about Pip is that the character is totally different from the other South Park characters. He is well educated (certainly), very calm, doesn't use bad words, polite and very wise unlike the other characters.
Yes! And that's what makes him one of my favorite characters on the show 🤠 I was shocked when I came to the internet and there was so much hate towards him!
I wouldn’t mind if they brought Pip back. I feel like now that have more experience under their belt they could revamp Pip in a way that distinguishes him from Butters while giving him more characteristics for people to latch on to.
@@haydenmcqueenie8987and Kenny dies a lot but comes back like nothing happened. Im sure Matt and Trey can come up with some insane way to bring Pip back
@@ifeeldead463 I mean. They can but they kinda killed off most of the classic characters or wrote them out. Matt and Trey despise seasons 1 and 3 (which ironically are my favorite seasons) so I doubt they even want to bring anyone from those seasons back. Chef, Dead, Mr. Hanky cancelled, Satan, Dead The only characters who have come back recently are Mr. Hanky and Satan oh and Jesus but I don't really see Pip or Damien coming back. I'd be really surprised if they did though. Seeing as the last few years they've been giving the fandom little treats. If anything Pip will make a cameo as like a picture or something.
Additional note: after season 3, you can see Pip interacting with the other pupils normally, highlighting that he eventually was more respected by his peers.
When I first started loving pip it was purely because I felt bad he was pretty much the most hated character in the fandom,so I was basically like “Awwww,I’ll be your fan pip!” But overtime,I grew to love him as a character! I even always play as pip when I replay South Park let’s go tower defense play!
Same here, I always thought Pip got more hate on him than he deserved. Why they had to kill him off instead of giving him more screen time and character development, l’ll never understand.
I think that Pip was basically the prototype Butters as Butters used to be a background character. But ever since Butters’ roles started becoming more prominent I think Trey and Matt basically went “out with the old, in with the new” by killing him off.
I never realised that this episode was generally hated and had always enjoyed it as being so wacky and ridiculous with its source material. Also, as mentioned, the dinner table scene is hilarious. I also always enjoyed pip in those early days but have to admit butters is the superior character.
Yeah I loved this episode but I watched it for the first time on DVD 📀 so I had plenty of other unwatched episodes to enjoy at the time and was able to appreciate it without feeling cheated out of a SouthPark viewing session
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I loved Pip as a kid, and I adored the Great Expectations parody. I never even knew Pip was hated until I was a lot older and in more online spaces. He was honestly one of my favorites, and I would still love to see him again.
pip’s existence was.. kinda sad. He began as a pretty much despised character, both on show and off, and he only started getting loved after his death. He was burned, blown up, got 2 head injuries, heart broken, and used for the joy of an old lady. Pip was a Meg for South Park, and I feel like only newer fans, or fans that came after pip’s death were the only ones who’d feel pity. I’ll be honest, when I first saw Pip, I didn’t think much of him. But when I got to know his role in the story of South Park, and his impacts on storylines, I really started to enjoy the little guy. Overall, the character is just highly underrated for those who don’t look at him thoroughly, not saying anybody who DOES hate Pip never looked at him from different perspectives. He had a lot of personality, mostly being a cheery misfit who would never seem to get friends or anything like that. I think Trey and Matt should bring him back, not in a big way or anything, just return as a background character like other characters did in the past, or come back WITH a big return, maybe in a new game or special episode. The only bad thing that would come out of his return is the likelihood of it ending up like the Pip episode. I might be jumping from one thing to another, but hear me out. The Pip episode was only bad, because it wasn’t about any other character than a randomly selected British kid. It could’ve done real well if Pip was given more screen time, or a bigger role. The “misfit” getting an entire episode is a really hard thing to script, and even figure out how to do. Pip was an amazing episode, it just needed a reason to happen. Pip wasn’t liked at the time, and I think the creators knew, so they should have waited on that for alot people who could like the kid, or give them more lines in the actual show so they can warm up to the fanbase. In conclusion, Pip is an amazing character with amazing meanings and morals, he just needs to come back in someway as a side-character, Background or just once in one episode to finish off everything, and give him one more memorable goodbye.. Because being stomped by a celebrity isn’t the right way to go for goodbye.
I started getting into south park pretty recently, and while I really like characters like Craig or Jimmy, Pip has to be my favorite. He could have had an amazing character arc across episodes that shows him standing up for himself, so he isn't just a second butters.
Honestly I never knew Pip, both the character and the episode, were that hated in the fandom. I actually really liked Pip and I personally liked the episode. I always assumed he was removed because they decided to replace his role with Butters.
Fun fact; the real reason Pip is so unreasonably hated in the show is actually because Matt and Trey based him off of Pip from Great Expectations, which they hated reading, so Pip is Matt and Trey’s outlet
I never really had a problem with Pip. Speaking as a fellow Brit, I can say one thing the creators got right with him is that we really do hate being mistaken for French.
I always felt they missed an opportunity with Pip in the 24 spoof episode when the UK decided to try to take back the US. Pip could have been made into a villain in a big twist! I honestly was waiting for it when I first watched the episode and then was sort of disappointed to not see it. I never minded the Pip episode, I actually appreciated the details.
While Pip is probably one of the most tragic characters on the show it could have been worse for him. According to a DVD commentary Pip was originally going to die in the season one episode “Damien” but they needed characters for crowd scenes so they kept him alive.
When the "Pip" episode debuted on television, I switched channels back and forth. I watched it thinking, "What is this?", and hoped Kyle, Stan, Cartman, and Kenny would appear. I changed the channel when it was on TV. I watched the whole episode years later and thought "It actually wasn't bad." Back then, I wanted to see Kyle, Stan, Cartman, and Kenny, but this episode didn't give that. It's a "You look forward to seeing this, but instead got that" moment where 'that' didn't make me happy back then.
I love Pip, I didn't understand why so many people hated him, but after you explained it I understand now. But still, I feel like Pip definitely didn't deserve so much backlash as a whole.
Pip may not be an objectively good character, but I can't help but love him lol. I can honestly easily imagine ways they could reintergrate him into the show, but I can't really blame them for keeping him dead either. 9:26 I always imagined the idea of Pip himself telling the story of the episode as an alternate start to his very own episode, so finding out that that was an actual thing they thought of is surreal.
Honestly pip is ADORED by neurodivergent teenagers. I love the sub-fandom where they talk about the foreign kids. Pip is honestly super sweet and adorable, he makes me really happy when he shows up on screen and I adore his character. His dynamic and lore also helped me develop my own South Park oc, alongside pips friendships and relations. I also just adore some things the fandom does with him, especially the shipping aspect of dip (Damien and pip) I think it’s really fun. If you use it, there is so much to do with his character! Live laugh love Pip, my little baby boy
I never viewed Pip to be a bad character and I did think he had potential to be expanded upon as a character following Butters' debut, but the creators decided not to. Which was honestly a shame to me.
I think the reason Simpsons retelling a story works a lot better than the Pip episode is that they incorporate the cast of the Simpsons we know and love into the roles of these classic stories, which results in a unique spin on the stories and a lot of laughs. I feel like the Pip episode could have worked better if it tried to fit the characters we were more familiar with into the roles of the great expectations rather than all these frankly uncanny looking renderings of the book characters.
My three favorite episodes do happen to be ‘Damien’, ‘Conjoined Fetus Lady’, and ‘Two Guys Naked in a Hot Tub’. He did really work as a side character. As much as I did like the ‘Pip’ episode, it’s a ‘Patrick Star Show’ situation of taking a character who ONLY works as a side character and making them the main focus. If they rewrote Pip, it could have worked… but they didn’t.
A way to bring Pip back would be having Kenny getting killed in a few episodes and he gets sent to hell, but since Satan has rising to heaven he has noticed things in hell becoming more chaotic compared to how Satan ran it to the point were those in hell are in pure fear and terror, on one visit they finally come to Kenny begging for his help stating that a new ruler has taken over with Satan gone and now Hell literally is..... hell. Kenny heads to the lair of this new overlord and discovers that it's Pip, but a Pip that has had it with the way he has been treated and took advantage of Satan being gone and took control of hell and is lashing out at everyone for how his life turned out. It can be a grand epic, bringing back Damien to challenge Pip but also seeing how he is dealing with the loss of Satan and also having Pip challenge Kenny for staying friends with people who belittle anyone who is not like them (Cartman) one who lets his ego blind him from the right thing (Stan) and someone who complains about it but still lets it happen (Kyle).
Pip is like a one-trick pony. He’s really only useful for one thing, being made fun of. There’s only so much you can do with him. At least Scott Malkinson filled the void he left behind. Also it’s funny how Scott became more prominent as soon as Pip died 🌚
He is. He offered no real value. His episode is work to get through. It is good they got rid of him or it would have done more damage than anything else. No one liked him nor his episode. The people who do are more than likely wanting to join this small hivemind trend. Or miss the reason why South Park is South Park.
I actually quite like Pip as a character. I do think Butters is the better character for the roll that Pip had, but I feel characters shouldn’t just be rolled under the carpet. I like it when shows re-invent their characters and I feel the show might be a bit too dismissive to its past sometimes Weirdly, the character of Pip is surprisingly still popular, at least with younger fans. The amount of fan-art & fan works of Pip has kind of kept the character alive even tho it’s been over a decade since his death & nearly 2 decades since the character officially did anything. So yeah, wouldn’t mind seeing Pip again in the future. Maybe if they do an episode focusing on Britain or perhaps if they ever bring back Damien (he & Pip weirdly get paired a lot even tho they shared only 1 episode)
Honestly I think they didn’t really give him enough to do, plus they shoved him to the background which made it harder to care about him. I would like to see them bring him back if they can but only if they finally have a good story to do so.
I quite like pip I think he is a very underestimated character in the show I love how nice and pleasant he is even though the other kids bully him 😭 it reminds me of myself and my neighbours who constantly bully me and I haven't done anything to them😢
Coincidentally, this episode premiered the night before my book report on Great Expectations was due and I had never gotten more than 20 pages into the book. So I did my report on the South Park version and got a 40 overall fail, but it was enough to pass the class. Just barely. Thanks, Trey and Matt!
I actually liked Pip and didn't have hate for the poor kid. Though I did catch myself saying " SHUT UP PIP" to people!😂 Thank you for covering this poor whipping boy, Lydia. Glad to see someone cares about him!❤
Pip of all characters being despised? I honestly wanted him to have some sort of redemption arc or character development to make the audience appreciate him instead of being killed off. I feel bad for him.
Pip is one of my all time favorite characters & I wish they would bring him back. I'm surprised they cut out that telling a story/report to the class out of Pip's episode when later on down the line they basically did that for the introduction of The Christmas Critters.
Conjoined Fetus Lady is such a great episode. Between Pip's anger, the Chinese announcers' mockery of Americans and the town's absolute ridiculous reaction to Nurse Gollum makes it such an underrated classic imo
I like to think of a scenario (or just my ideal world) where Damien goes to Heaven to see his dad and runs into Pip there and it reunites them. Even if he wouldn't come back, if they wrote him like they do now and tested the waters again it could become a new light for the character but that's hopeful thinking. But considering that even if he is the most hated character, Pip definitely has a cult following and even though he wasn't popular back then, during this time, anything could really happen.
I will say this I started watching the South Park series much later, I really had a marathon... after many seasons, I realized something... I noticed Pip's absence in the episodes being that I'm from Italy, the episode where he dies never arrived in Italy, so I discovered it on the character's wiki, well... I remember that I was very upset about it- honestly Pip didn't deserve this end, but the only thing that consoles me is the fact that he actually died as a hero because he was the only one who tried to stop Macha straisend... unfortunately, after this thing it's as if he they erased his existence since it's never mentioned by anyone again, it's so sad- :\
I love Pip. He’s one of my favorite characters from the early seasons and it’s a shame he didn’t reach the same popularity as Butters. I hope he returns in some capacity someday.
You'd be amazed at how much of a cult following Pip's character has received. A lot of people want Matt and Trey to bring him back, which I don't really understand since Butters pretty much does what Pip did, but better because he's a deeper and more likeable character.
I never really hated Pip as much as I felt that his bullying was mean spirited and unfunny, as opposed to Butters whose innocent naivety makes the punching bag comedy work better (as well as still being treated as an equal amongst the rest of the kids and the fact that he has more going on as a character, like you said).
So I was 14 when South Park first aired. At the end of the first season we got left with a cliffhanger. When the next season started, it was April 1st... so instead of the conclusion, we get Terrence and Philip in "Not Without My Anus". That being said, I actually loved both episodes. I grew up with all kinds of shows that have this kind of strange offbeat humor.
I keep picturing a big comeback episode where Pip and Damien are revealed to be then new rulers of Hell, and then Damien lets Pip get revenge on the Earth as an anniversary present, but Pip would rather teach Damien to be a better ruler, in a parody of Beauty and the Beast. The last time they played into the fandom’s shipping desires, it went over really well, why not do it again?
I actually didn't mind Pip and don't think he deserved to be picked on and hated as much as he were. I understand though, why people might think, that there wasn't that much to his character in the long run, and why his Fish out of water aspect might become too much in the setting of South Park, and yes the great expectations episode might have worked better with the South Park characters playing the characters of that story, but as a whole, I don't think Pip was that bad.
I think the main reason that people hate this episode is because they haven't read the novel Great Expectations in the first place, and so all the parallels to the original storyline just go right over their heads. I had to read the novel in high school, and I thought this episode was hilarious.
as a pretty recent south park fan i dunno how much i can speak on this but from what i’ve seen in the community, he isn’t as hated anymore. i know there are definitely people who dislike him, but i’ve found that there are a shocking amount of people to consider him their favourite! at least with newer south park fans anyway. people who make fanart and such
What makes me even more sad is that Pip dies in a banned episode. Having not watched 201 during my first run of the series, I didn’t even know he was dead and always wondered where he was.
I always loved Pip and liked his featured episode! Sure, when I first watched it, I didn't quite understood it, but then for high school I chose to read Great Expectations over the summer because of Pip and his episode.
I always remember the scene where the boys are playing football and Pip asks if they have spare helmet and gear for him but Chef says no while also going on that Pip has to be the one they use as a ball I think lol The Great Expectations episode I liked I had watched it before reading or watching any sort of adaptations before the South Park episode. I also give the episode props because it had backgrounds and animation things they haven't used before that in the early seasons and I admire them making a parody of Great Expectations just because they liked the original book and didn't care if audience didn't. 🎶 Whippy Tippy Too Too Tra La La La 🎶
I’d sell my kidney to the Black Market to pay Matt and Trey to come up with a way to bring Pip back that would be as original as possible (instead of a repeat of Kenny’s death and eventual revival), even if it means coming back as a ghost or something; maybe in the afterlife, he could receive the character development he had potential for before he died.
Pip's fate was truly sealed once Butters truly came into his own. Butters just had more potential to work with; Plus Trey and Matt seemed to like him more than Pip as well. Can't blame them really, I too really like Butters as he's probably my favorite character on the show.
@@danjoredd Couldn't have said it better myself. Pip just felt like a 1 Trick Pony. He was essentially a growing pain/relic of the early seasons. Something the show eventually grew out of.
Since South Park only does stuff that relates to topical events right now, they should bring back pip as an artificial robot and call it artificial Pip intelligence
I actually have a pretty cool idea in my head where Butters and Dougie befriend a mad scientist-type character who brings back Pip as a RE3-type monster and join Professor Chaos in his evil schemes and get revenge on everyone who mistreated him over the years. It’d be a nice classic South Park off the wall storytelling in a time where it’s mostly social commentary.
I liked pip decently he was the awkward odd ball who didn’t really act like a child, that made him stand out more as a child when he did act like a child cause… well… he is one. But now all the kids act like adults and pip was split up and made into traits of Kyle and butters
"Pip" the episode stood out to me in a positive light. I suppose if you wound up so tightly at 10pm Wednesday or Saturday only to discover that was the episode being aired. I guess I could see the disappointment in that. I would absolutely watch it and think not much of it.
I remember watching the pip episode when i was younger i didn’t hate it but it was always soooo strange to me even as a kid, it felt like a totally different show
i love pip, i always have! he's just so endearing, he's such a sweetie despite the entire world absolutely hating him 😂 i honestly kinda liked his episode too! it felt like an interesting change of pace if anything, i thought it was fun to watch
Southpark is one of those series that i just watch and dont interact with the community around it. So i had no idea that Pip was a disliked character. I didn't really think much of him but it was obvious that Butters was just more loved and enjoyable. It does not surprise me that Trey and Matt love writing his character.
I’m conflicted when it comes to Pip. I actually enjoy him (that exchange with Damian always gets me) but I also think his death was perfect for his character so unsure I’d want him back. Maybe the stereotype he portrays just isn’t for everyone. Also, because nostalgia, I remember watching Pip’s episode when it first aired… it was like ‘Not without my anus’. Like wtf am I watching?! I enjoyed it.. but I was also 13 so 🤷🏻♀️
I'll admit it. Pips episode is one of my favorites. I reaf Great Expectations as a child, and I loved it, so my favorite show, making an episode centered around it, instantly became one of my favorites
I miss Pip! Hes so cute like kenny why people have to treat him like dog shit! Wtf is wrong with people! I love hearing his cute fanceh accient. Bring him back, some of these peeps hating on him have no taste and no fancyness no class and no style. South Park went too far on shaming them peeps on this ep and affended many fans and british peeps.😭😢
It's really sad that Pip is hated as much as he is. But in a way, Pip is symbolic for how nice people are actually treated in the real world. The nicest people are always shit on the most or taken advantage of. There's even the phrase "nice guys finish last" when it comes to dating.
I think pip is really cute and very sweet and I think they could bring him back but then with a bit of changes and also not be like a main character but more a background character
Pip is really nothing like the Pip in Great Expectations - the Dickensian Pip could be rough and certainly passive aggressive. He can also be cynically shrewd when other characters are dunces. He can see that Miss Haversham's household is psychotic, when the outside world only sees eccentricity. Also, as a boy Pip wouldn't have been trying to sound refined, he would have had a regional accent.
Pip was my favorite character as a kid, I even had printed out a picture of him and put it on my main binder in elementary school. I dunno, I just liked the little guy and still do to this day.
I kinda liked the episode Pip. I first watched it when Comedy Central was running a rerun of Tegrity Farm story archs. "Pip" was a nice and very welcome break
To be honest,I don't watch South park,but pip seems Like those characters that would be hated,then come back in a way that would make him loved,but with his death,u can see that won't be happening
I liked the episode and I watched the show from season one...in third grade. My friends and I all quoted the Pip episode as young adults all the time. As a fan from 1997 (don't tell my parents), I had no idea Pip was hated.
Pip was always my favorite actually, I'm not sure why people seemingly hate him. I'd love to see him return for one of the games or something, maybe a level where the player and Kenny travel to hell and Pip and Damien are there or something, IDK. Would love to see him back as an actual living character again of course and I'd argue there's room for it since Butters doesn't really get kicked around like he used to, but I'm not holding my breath. Don't really *love* the newer seasons of South Park anyways, they've gotten very "old man yells at cloud".
if it's in the games the new kid technically has time travel farts. going back in time to save Pip would be amazing :) with time farts though it possibly wouldn't be quite the Doctor Who kinda reference I was hoping for.
I adore Pip he along with Butters and Tweek is my favourite South Park character. I actually liked his episode but I think it helps that I already like the character so him getting his own episode would definitely appeal to me. He does have a following in the fanbase though. I loved Pip so much I actually brought the Pip plush it's super cute. I miss him being in the show.
Wait, people don’t like Pip? How odd…
OH WOW.
HELP💀-
The Christmas kids were never but a kid
Pip was hated by the characters within the show, but there’s a lot of South Park fans who actually liked him. And I personally feel like it was completely unnecessary to kill him off.
I was waiting for you to comment LOL
What I love about Pip is that the character is totally different from the other South Park characters. He is well educated (certainly), very calm, doesn't use bad words, polite and very wise unlike the other characters.
Yes! And that's what makes him one of my favorite characters on the show 🤠 I was shocked when I came to the internet and there was so much hate towards him!
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so true
He's my favorite ever there is a reason he's my pfp😊
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Honestly I always thought Pip got more hate than he deserved.
@@Mondomeyer Why? I’m pretty sure that’s bigoted towards someone of a differing nationality. Just saying.
oh yes 100%
he's just a boring character, All I'm going to say
@@joshuaboshoff2472 What do you mean?
@@TheKingGambit404 I can see someone thinking he's boring or not the best of characters from the show but to act like he's awful would be absurd.
I wouldn’t mind if they brought Pip back. I feel like now that have more experience under their belt they could revamp Pip in a way that distinguishes him from Butters while giving him more characteristics for people to latch on to.
Exactly!
He's dead... Mecha-Streisand killed him...
@@haydenmcqueenie8987and Kenny dies a lot but comes back like nothing happened. Im sure Matt and Trey can come up with some insane way to bring Pip back
@@ifeeldead463okay, hear me out…
Demon Pip.
@@ifeeldead463 I mean. They can but they kinda killed off most of the classic characters or wrote them out. Matt and Trey despise seasons 1 and 3 (which ironically are my favorite seasons) so I doubt they even want to bring anyone from those seasons back. Chef, Dead, Mr. Hanky cancelled, Satan, Dead
The only characters who have come back recently are Mr. Hanky and Satan oh and Jesus but I don't really see Pip or Damien coming back. I'd be really surprised if they did though. Seeing as the last few years they've been giving the fandom little treats. If anything Pip will make a cameo as like a picture or something.
Additional note: after season 3, you can see Pip interacting with the other pupils normally, highlighting that he eventually was more respected by his peers.
He fr should have just stayed as a very background character
@@Crassulaovata yeah I'm sure they could've used him in later episodes with his british background.
When I first started loving pip it was purely because I felt bad he was pretty much the most hated character in the fandom,so I was basically like “Awwww,I’ll be your fan pip!” But overtime,I grew to love him as a character!
I even always play as pip when I replay South Park let’s go tower defense play!
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Same here, I always thought Pip got more hate on him than he deserved. Why they had to kill him off instead of giving him more screen time and character development, l’ll never understand.
I'm a biggggg pip fan.
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I think that Pip was basically the prototype Butters as Butters used to be a background character. But ever since Butters’ roles started becoming more prominent I think Trey and Matt basically went “out with the old, in with the new” by killing him off.
I never realised that this episode was generally hated and had always enjoyed it as being so wacky and ridiculous with its source material. Also, as mentioned, the dinner table scene is hilarious. I also always enjoyed pip in those early days but have to admit butters is the superior character.
I just kept laughing during that dinner scene, so funny 😂
@@LydiaLovesTimelines the other kids lines were delivered soo perfectly and with expert timing. “Not at all, I’m sure”
Yeah I loved this episode but I watched it for the first time on DVD 📀 so I had plenty of other unwatched episodes to enjoy at the time and was able to appreciate it without feeling cheated out of a SouthPark viewing session
Ikr?
@@LydiaLovesTimelinessettle down frenchy before we revolt again. Hehe sorry I'ma sadist. Couldn't resist my self. Plz dont ban. ☺️ Now shhh I'm mewing ☝️🧏 ("bye bye")
I loved Pip as a kid, and I adored the Great Expectations parody. I never even knew Pip was hated until I was a lot older and in more online spaces. He was honestly one of my favorites, and I would still love to see him again.
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Sadly they had to kill him off tho
pip’s existence was.. kinda sad. He began as a pretty much despised character, both on show and off, and he only started getting loved after his death. He was burned, blown up, got 2 head injuries, heart broken, and used for the joy of an old lady. Pip was a Meg for South Park, and I feel like only newer fans, or fans that came after pip’s death were the only ones who’d feel pity. I’ll be honest, when I first saw Pip, I didn’t think much of him. But when I got to know his role in the story of South Park, and his impacts on storylines, I really started to enjoy the little guy.
Overall, the character is just highly underrated for those who don’t look at him thoroughly, not saying anybody who DOES hate Pip never looked at him from different perspectives. He had a lot of personality, mostly being a cheery misfit who would never seem to get friends or anything like that. I think Trey and Matt should bring him back, not in a big way or anything, just return as a background character like other characters did in the past, or come back WITH a big return, maybe in a new game or special episode. The only bad thing that would come out of his return is the likelihood of it ending up like the Pip episode.
I might be jumping from one thing to another, but hear me out. The Pip episode was only bad, because it wasn’t about any other character than a randomly selected British kid. It could’ve done real well if Pip was given more screen time, or a bigger role. The “misfit” getting an entire episode is a really hard thing to script, and even figure out how to do. Pip was an amazing episode, it just needed a reason to happen. Pip wasn’t liked at the time, and I think the creators knew, so they should have waited on that for alot people who could like the kid, or give them more lines in the actual show so they can warm up to the fanbase.
In conclusion, Pip is an amazing character with amazing meanings and morals, he just needs to come back in someway as a side-character, Background or just once in one episode to finish off everything, and give him one more memorable goodbye.. Because being stomped by a celebrity isn’t the right way to go for goodbye.
I started getting into south park pretty recently, and while I really like characters like Craig or Jimmy, Pip has to be my favorite. He could have had an amazing character arc across episodes that shows him standing up for himself, so he isn't just a second butters.
Honestly I never knew Pip, both the character and the episode, were that hated in the fandom. I actually really liked Pip and I personally liked the episode. I always assumed he was removed because they decided to replace his role with Butters.
"south park's most hated character"
butters' parents: allow us to introduce ourselves
Fun fact; the real reason Pip is so unreasonably hated in the show is actually because Matt and Trey based him off of Pip from Great Expectations, which they hated reading, so Pip is Matt and Trey’s outlet
😮😮awww snap
ive always liked charles dickens:)
Estella's insults to Pip in South Park are by far the funniest Charles Dickens jokes I've ever heard and that's why I love that episode
I passed a college class by watching Pips episode instead of reading the book. It’s the greatest episode ever created.
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I never really had a problem with Pip. Speaking as a fellow Brit, I can say one thing the creators got right with him is that we really do hate being mistaken for French.
Bonjour
Be quiet you dirty roast beef
Ye cheese eating surrender monkeys!
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I always felt they missed an opportunity with Pip in the 24 spoof episode when the UK decided to try to take back the US. Pip could have been made into a villain in a big twist! I honestly was waiting for it when I first watched the episode and then was sort of disappointed to not see it. I never minded the Pip episode, I actually appreciated the details.
While Pip is probably one of the most tragic characters on the show it could have been worse for him. According to a DVD commentary Pip was originally going to die in the season one episode “Damien” but they needed characters for crowd scenes so they kept him alive.
When the "Pip" episode debuted on television, I switched channels back and forth. I watched it thinking, "What is this?", and hoped Kyle, Stan, Cartman, and Kenny would appear. I changed the channel when it was on TV. I watched the whole episode years later and thought "It actually wasn't bad." Back then, I wanted to see Kyle, Stan, Cartman, and Kenny, but this episode didn't give that. It's a "You look forward to seeing this, but instead got that" moment where 'that' didn't make me happy back then.
I love Pip, I didn't understand why so many people hated him, but after you explained it I understand now. But still, I feel like Pip definitely didn't deserve so much backlash as a whole.
Pip may not be an objectively good character, but I can't help but love him lol. I can honestly easily imagine ways they could reintergrate him into the show, but I can't really blame them for keeping him dead either. 9:26 I always imagined the idea of Pip himself telling the story of the episode as an alternate start to his very own episode, so finding out that that was an actual thing they thought of is surreal.
Honestly pip is ADORED by neurodivergent teenagers. I love the sub-fandom where they talk about the foreign kids. Pip is honestly super sweet and adorable, he makes me really happy when he shows up on screen and I adore his character. His dynamic and lore also helped me develop my own South Park oc, alongside pips friendships and relations. I also just adore some things the fandom does with him, especially the shipping aspect of dip (Damien and pip) I think it’s really fun. If you use it, there is so much to do with his character! Live laugh love Pip, my little baby boy
Me clicking on this video because I grew up loving Pip 😂 had no idea he was hated
I never viewed Pip to be a bad character and I did think he had potential to be expanded upon as a character following Butters' debut, but the creators decided not to. Which was honestly a shame to me.
Pip gets better treated in Great Expectations
@@thejackguy5403 Well yeah, because that was the book he originated from.
I think the reason Simpsons retelling a story works a lot better than the Pip episode is that they incorporate the cast of the Simpsons we know and love into the roles of these classic stories, which results in a unique spin on the stories and a lot of laughs. I feel like the Pip episode could have worked better if it tried to fit the characters we were more familiar with into the roles of the great expectations rather than all these frankly uncanny looking renderings of the book characters.
Interesting...I was under the impression it was just Blooms who hated the episode & Pip, not the fandom as a whole
I think the episode is disliked by many, Pip not so much.
My three favorite episodes do happen to be ‘Damien’, ‘Conjoined Fetus Lady’, and ‘Two Guys Naked in a Hot Tub’.
He did really work as a side character. As much as I did like the ‘Pip’ episode, it’s a ‘Patrick Star Show’ situation of taking a character who ONLY works as a side character and making them the main focus.
If they rewrote Pip, it could have worked… but they didn’t.
A way to bring Pip back would be having Kenny getting killed in a few episodes and he gets sent to hell, but since Satan has rising to heaven he has noticed things in hell becoming more chaotic compared to how Satan ran it to the point were those in hell are in pure fear and terror, on one visit they finally come to Kenny begging for his help stating that a new ruler has taken over with Satan gone and now Hell literally is..... hell. Kenny heads to the lair of this new overlord and discovers that it's Pip, but a Pip that has had it with the way he has been treated and took advantage of Satan being gone and took control of hell and is lashing out at everyone for how his life turned out.
It can be a grand epic, bringing back Damien to challenge Pip but also seeing how he is dealing with the loss of Satan and also having Pip challenge Kenny for staying friends with people who belittle anyone who is not like them (Cartman) one who lets his ego blind him from the right thing (Stan) and someone who complains about it but still lets it happen (Kyle).
Pip is like a one-trick pony. He’s really only useful for one thing, being made fun of. There’s only so much you can do with him. At least Scott Malkinson filled the void he left behind. Also it’s funny how Scott became more prominent as soon as Pip died 🌚
And even he has more to do than being made fun of.
He is. He offered no real value. His episode is work to get through. It is good they got rid of him or it would have done more damage than anything else.
No one liked him nor his episode. The people who do are more than likely wanting to join this small hivemind trend. Or miss the reason why South Park is South Park.
I actually quite like Pip as a character. I do think Butters is the better character for the roll that Pip had, but I feel characters shouldn’t just be rolled under the carpet. I like it when shows re-invent their characters and I feel the show might be a bit too dismissive to its past sometimes
Weirdly, the character of Pip is surprisingly still popular, at least with younger fans. The amount of fan-art & fan works of Pip has kind of kept the character alive even tho it’s been over a decade since his death & nearly 2 decades since the character officially did anything.
So yeah, wouldn’t mind seeing Pip again in the future. Maybe if they do an episode focusing on Britain or perhaps if they ever bring back Damien (he & Pip weirdly get paired a lot even tho they shared only 1 episode)
Honestly I think they didn’t really give him enough to do, plus they shoved him to the background which made it harder to care about him. I would like to see them bring him back if they can but only if they finally have a good story to do so.
I quite like pip I think he is a very underestimated character in the show I love how nice and pleasant he is even though the other kids bully him 😭 it reminds me of myself and my neighbours who constantly bully me and I haven't done anything to them😢
Do you also have a Britain accent to?
You need to move out
@@melodysafo5437 already working on it
Coincidentally, this episode premiered the night before my book report on Great Expectations was due and I had never gotten more than 20 pages into the book. So I did my report on the South Park version and got a 40 overall fail, but it was enough to pass the class. Just barely. Thanks, Trey and Matt!
I actually liked Pip and didn't have hate for the poor kid. Though I did catch myself saying " SHUT UP PIP" to people!😂 Thank you for covering this poor whipping boy, Lydia. Glad to see someone cares about him!❤
Pip of all characters being despised? I honestly wanted him to have some sort of redemption arc or character development to make the audience appreciate him instead of being killed off. I feel bad for him.
I always thought somewhere down the line that Pip would end up like the Doctor from Dr. Who and regenerate becoming a rival to Kenny.
I feel like Pip deserved better. He didn’t deserve tae be killed that way and forgotten.
Pip is one of my all time favorite characters & I wish they would bring him back. I'm surprised they cut out that telling a story/report to the class out of Pip's episode when later on down the line they basically did that for the introduction of The Christmas Critters.
Conjoined Fetus Lady is such a great episode. Between Pip's anger, the Chinese announcers' mockery of Americans and the town's absolute ridiculous reaction to Nurse Gollum makes it such an underrated classic imo
I like to think of a scenario (or just my ideal world) where Damien goes to Heaven to see his dad and runs into Pip there and it reunites them. Even if he wouldn't come back, if they wrote him like they do now and tested the waters again it could become a new light for the character but that's hopeful thinking. But considering that even if he is the most hated character, Pip definitely has a cult following and even though he wasn't popular back then, during this time, anything could really happen.
I will say this
I started watching the South Park series much later, I really had a marathon... after many seasons, I realized something... I noticed Pip's absence in the episodes
being that I'm from Italy, the episode where he dies never arrived in Italy, so I discovered it on the character's wiki, well... I remember that I was very upset about it-
honestly Pip didn't deserve this end, but the only thing that consoles me is the fact that he actually died as a hero because he was the only one who tried to stop Macha straisend... unfortunately, after this thing it's as if he they erased his existence since it's never mentioned by anyone again, it's so sad- :\
I love Pip. He’s one of my favorite characters from the early seasons and it’s a shame he didn’t reach the same popularity as Butters. I hope he returns in some capacity someday.
You'd be amazed at how much of a cult following Pip's character has received. A lot of people want Matt and Trey to bring him back, which I don't really understand since Butters pretty much does what Pip did, but better because he's a deeper and more likeable character.
Lydia doing an impression of Cartman gave me a good laugh. I wanted to hear more. Haha. XD
It was too good xD
I never really hated Pip as much as I felt that his bullying was mean spirited and unfunny, as opposed to Butters whose innocent naivety makes the punching bag comedy work better (as well as still being treated as an equal amongst the rest of the kids and the fact that he has more going on as a character, like you said).
So I was 14 when South Park first aired. At the end of the first season we got left with a cliffhanger. When the next season started, it was April 1st... so instead of the conclusion, we get Terrence and Philip in "Not Without My Anus". That being said, I actually loved both episodes. I grew up with all kinds of shows that have this kind of strange offbeat humor.
I keep picturing a big comeback episode where Pip and Damien are revealed to be then new rulers of Hell, and then Damien lets Pip get revenge on the Earth as an anniversary present, but Pip would rather teach Damien to be a better ruler, in a parody of Beauty and the Beast. The last time they played into the fandom’s shipping desires, it went over really well, why not do it again?
I actually didn't mind Pip and don't think he deserved to be picked on and hated as much as he were. I understand though, why people might think, that there wasn't that much to his character in the long run, and why his Fish out of water aspect might become too much in the setting of South Park, and yes the great expectations episode might have worked better with the South Park characters playing the characters of that story, but as a whole, I don't think Pip was that bad.
I think the main reason that people hate this episode is because they haven't read the novel Great Expectations in the first place, and so all the parallels to the original storyline just go right over their heads. I had to read the novel in high school, and I thought this episode was hilarious.
as a pretty recent south park fan i dunno how much i can speak on this but from what i’ve seen in the community, he isn’t as hated anymore. i know there are definitely people who dislike him, but i’ve found that there are a shocking amount of people to consider him their favourite! at least with newer south park fans anyway. people who make fanart and such
Honestly I never liked pip. Butters is actually just better in every way
I do say it helps that Hell park AU helps
Honestly I didn't think people hated Pip until I found comments in videos where people would hate on him.
I really liked Pip and I don't hate his episode! I wish he would still hang around in the recent episodes 😢
What makes me even more sad is that Pip dies in a banned episode. Having not watched 201 during my first run of the series, I didn’t even know he was dead and always wondered where he was.
I actually like the Pip episode. Every time I’ve read Great Expectations I half expect Miss. Havisham to talk about her genesis device.
Most hated character: Pip
Most loved character: Butters
Funny how things work out...
i feel as if they should’ve just kept pip the way he was during episodes like bebes boobs destroy society, but to have him talk a tiny bit more
My friend showed me South Park when we were younger, he turned on adult swim and...
It was pip.
My first South Park episode was pip.
I always loved Pip and liked his featured episode! Sure, when I first watched it, I didn't quite understood it, but then for high school I chose to read Great Expectations over the summer because of Pip and his episode.
As a Brit, it sucks so hard that we get given a British character and it turns out to be Pip.
I always remember the scene where the boys are playing football and Pip asks if they have spare helmet and gear for him but Chef says no while also going on that Pip has to be the one they use as a ball I think lol The Great Expectations episode I liked I had watched it before reading or watching any sort of adaptations before the South Park episode. I also give the episode props because it had backgrounds and animation things they haven't used before that in the early seasons and I admire them making a parody of Great Expectations just because they liked the original book and didn't care if audience didn't. 🎶 Whippy Tippy Too Too Tra La La La 🎶
I must check that out, having read Great Expectations.
Matt and Trey despised Great Expectations lol
"Stan and the Melvins" would be a great name for a band. ijs
I’d sell my kidney to the Black Market to pay Matt and Trey to come up with a way to bring Pip back that would be as original as possible (instead of a repeat of Kenny’s death and eventual revival), even if it means coming back as a ghost or something; maybe in the afterlife, he could receive the character development he had potential for before he died.
Me genuinely liking Pip may have ironically proved I'm basically Pip myself...
Pip's fate was truly sealed once Butters truly came into his own. Butters just had more potential to work with; Plus Trey and Matt seemed to like him more than Pip as well. Can't blame them really, I too really like Butters as he's probably my favorite character on the show.
@@danjoredd Couldn't have said it better myself. Pip just felt like a 1 Trick Pony. He was essentially a growing pain/relic of the early seasons. Something the show eventually grew out of.
Since South Park only does stuff that relates to topical events right now, they should bring back pip as an artificial robot and call it artificial Pip intelligence
I really like pip and I wish they would bring him and damien back to play off of one another.❤
I actually have a pretty cool idea in my head where Butters and Dougie befriend a mad scientist-type character who brings back Pip as a RE3-type monster and join Professor Chaos in his evil schemes and get revenge on everyone who mistreated him over the years. It’d be a nice classic South Park off the wall storytelling in a time where it’s mostly social commentary.
Dr. Mephesto exists you know
@@TheDuckyDino Yeah, I know.
I always enjoyed Pip, they could've done so more with him if they didn't ended him off, if they bring pip back they can do so much more
Same with Damian, they could have been a duo! They could have made up and even become a iconic duo
What if Pip just comes back as a cyborg and just SMACKS cartman in the face?
I liked pip decently he was the awkward odd ball who didn’t really act like a child, that made him stand out more as a child when he did act like a child cause… well… he is one. But now all the kids act like adults and pip was split up and made into traits of Kyle and butters
"Pip" the episode stood out to me in a positive light. I suppose if you wound up so tightly at 10pm Wednesday or Saturday only to discover that was the episode being aired.
I guess I could see the disappointment in that.
I would absolutely watch it and think not much of it.
Lydia is my favorite French youtuber
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I remember watching the pip episode when i was younger i didn’t hate it but it was always soooo strange to me even as a kid, it felt like a totally different show
i love pip, i always have! he's just so endearing, he's such a sweetie despite the entire world absolutely hating him 😂 i honestly kinda liked his episode too! it felt like an interesting change of pace if anything, i thought it was fun to watch
Southpark is one of those series that i just watch and dont interact with the community around it. So i had no idea that Pip was a disliked character. I didn't really think much of him but it was obvious that Butters was just more loved and enjoyable. It does not surprise me that Trey and Matt love writing his character.
I’m conflicted when it comes to Pip. I actually enjoy him (that exchange with Damian always gets me) but I also think his death was perfect for his character so unsure I’d want him back.
Maybe the stereotype he portrays just isn’t for everyone.
Also, because nostalgia, I remember watching Pip’s episode when it first aired… it was like ‘Not without my anus’. Like wtf am I watching?! I enjoyed it.. but I was also 13 so 🤷🏻♀️
OOOH but I’d love to see how he’d fit into the ‘Fractured but Whole’ universe!
I'll admit it. Pips episode is one of my favorites. I reaf Great Expectations as a child, and I loved it, so my favorite show, making an episode centered around it, instantly became one of my favorites
I miss Pip! Hes so cute like kenny why people have to treat him like dog shit! Wtf is wrong with people! I love hearing his cute fanceh accient. Bring him back, some of these peeps hating on him have no taste and no fancyness no class and no style. South Park went too far on shaming them peeps on this ep and affended many fans and british peeps.😭😢
I'd always hoped Pip would have joined Professor Chaos and General Disarray as a supervillain.
It's really sad that Pip is hated as much as he is. But in a way, Pip is symbolic for how nice people are actually treated in the real world. The nicest people are always shit on the most or taken advantage of. There's even the phrase "nice guys finish last" when it comes to dating.
I think pip is really cute and very sweet and I think they could bring him back but then with a bit of changes and also not be like a main character but more a background character
I freaking love Pip!
This was the kind of video I predicted that Kitty Monk would do but you did good
Kitty Monk is awesome! Love her and her videos
I love Pip and wish he and Damien would come back in a new episode that takes place in hell and maybe on earth 🌎 ❤
Pip is really nothing like the Pip in Great Expectations - the Dickensian Pip could be rough and certainly passive aggressive. He can also be cynically shrewd when other characters are dunces. He can see that Miss Haversham's household is psychotic, when the outside world only sees eccentricity. Also, as a boy Pip wouldn't have been trying to sound refined, he would have had a regional accent.
Holy crap I didn’t realize this character existed despite me not being that interested in South Park
Thanks Lydia 😉
Conspiracy Theory: What if Pip is an alterego of Butters, like Professor Chaos or Inspector Butters, as seen in "City Sushi"
Pip was my favorite character as a kid, I even had printed out a picture of him and put it on my main binder in elementary school.
I dunno, I just liked the little guy and still do to this day.
I kinda liked the episode Pip.
I first watched it when Comedy Central was running a rerun of Tegrity Farm story archs.
"Pip" was a nice and very welcome break
To be honest,I don't watch South park,but pip seems Like those characters that would be hated,then come back in a way that would make him loved,but with his death,u can see that won't be happening
I liked the episode and I watched the show from season one...in third grade. My friends and I all quoted the Pip episode as young adults all the time. As a fan from 1997 (don't tell my parents), I had no idea Pip was hated.
I had no problem with the Pip character. I’m sick of Randy, though.
Basically pip was replaced by butters as the shows punching bag
Pip was always my favorite actually, I'm not sure why people seemingly hate him. I'd love to see him return for one of the games or something, maybe a level where the player and Kenny travel to hell and Pip and Damien are there or something, IDK.
Would love to see him back as an actual living character again of course and I'd argue there's room for it since Butters doesn't really get kicked around like he used to, but I'm not holding my breath. Don't really *love* the newer seasons of South Park anyways, they've gotten very "old man yells at cloud".
if it's in the games the new kid technically has time travel farts. going back in time to save Pip would be amazing :) with time farts though it possibly wouldn't be quite the Doctor Who kinda reference I was hoping for.
@@VampirePrinceKRS Yeah, using him for references to British things like Dr Who and Monty Python would be a pretty good use case, lol. :P
I adore Pip he along with Butters and Tweek is my favourite South Park character. I actually liked his episode but I think it helps that I already like the character so him getting his own episode would definitely appeal to me. He does have a following in the fanbase though. I loved Pip so much I actually brought the Pip plush it's super cute. I miss him being in the show.
Your SP avatar is ADORABLE. Pip being proto Butters makes him kinda endearing
when I was at school there was a kid who was hated that much he was literally nicknamed pip I still don't know if it was a reference to this or not
Man the French narrator did a great job
Pip with its deleted scene allowed Woodland Critter Christmas to run by a country mile
absolutely heartbroken that pip never got his villain arc era