The fact that he was buried in a cemetery, and was likely a known Christian would suggest a period of general peace and religious tolerance in that region, even amidst the chaotic third century crisis. At least in that particular area he lived in.
A great video Dr Falk! I’m definitely going to share it with other people. As for the discovery, I’m wasn’t surprised that it was found in Germany. But I was surprised by the clear saint veneration and the mention of hell. That’s really cool!
Within the context of the period, the region was in absolute chaos. The period between 230-270 AD was directly in the middle of the Crises of the Third Century. During this period, there were some 15 emperors constantly fighting one another over control of the Empire. Such a chaotic period of time would have convinced many that the Roman gods had abandoned them and - in turn - many would have turned to Christianity. What’s more intriguing is the mention of Saint Titus. Titus - a Greek - would have been appealing to Latins and Greeks; acting as a bridge between the Aramaic and Hebrew-speaking Jews - such as Paul, Peter, and so on - to the Greco-Roman world.
As far as I had learned from my Roman history professor, many of the Christian persecutions were much more localized around the power who instigated them, even those from the emperor. So I like what your producer said at the end, regarding that it might have been easier for a Roman Christian to live a sustained life outside of Rome's direct reach.
Very cool, thanks for sharing! Many of the phrases in this come directly from John's writings in the gospel of John and Revelation. I find that very interesting.
Dr.David: vendi, vidi , vici !!! Latin isn't that hard to learn: took it in high school. This is a great find and is evidence that your favorite Data person is pushing his Dogma of Jesus viewed as God coming much latter than early Christianity. Since this was found in Germany far removed from the Middle East and has an Orthodox view of Jesus as being God.
Dr Falk, 'In the name' is inferred by the researchers, I think what's present on the amulet is 'of Titus'. It could just as well be 'Prayer of St Titus', or even 'Amulet of Titus', with Titus as the name of the man who wore the amulet! Or the guy who made it. Or who knows. I wish that, instead of the rather iffy translation, the press would have reported the actual Latin text that was deciphered, with lacunae clearly indicated.
Finally found something Dr. Falk is not great at, damn Latin😅 The find confirms the verse Philippians 2:9-22 NIV: "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Jesus was exalted to be a god under his God, the Father. John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”
You need to read philipeans 2 again . Jesus was in the form if God and then became human . Nit a human that became God . Read it again closely. Philipeans 2 nrsv Let the same mind be in you that was[a] in Christ Jesus, 6 who, though he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped, 7 but emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, assuming human likeness. And being found in appearance as a human, 8 he humbled himself and became obedient to the point of death- even death on a cross. 9 Therefore God exalted him even more highly and gave him the name that is above every other name, 10 so that at the name given to Jesus every knee should bend, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
I had an idea: The soldier suffered from seizures as a small or adolescent child and seeking out help, as any parent would, comes across someone who follows The Living GOD Who Can Heal. Healing the soldier of his condition and then creating this for the boy to hold onto and remember the Name of The One Who freed him from said torment. Something the soldier carried for the rest of his days, honoring The One who redeemed him. Even if I'm not even close to his story, and im probably not, to think about the hundreds of ways he could have gotten there with it, shared it with his brothers in arms -the stories we share doing the same here and now and that GOD knows the number of hairs on each if our heards- that not a single story, single life, is forgotten makes it all the more beautiful. ^.^ More anthropology than archaeology maybe lo? Sorry 😅 I love your channel and I greatly enjoy hearing your producer's take!😊 (Please pardon any typos or misspellings, my hands are not working the best and speech to text, though it has come far, is still not fully there with all things. 😅 Proof reading only goes so far)
The reference to Saint Titus is interesting, is it possible he ministered in that area? The thought came to mind that perhaps this man was part of church that could trace its genealogy back to him.
I had some fun comparing the silver phylactery's quotation of Philippians to how the Latin translation eventually settled. Thought I'd share. Phil 2:10-11 (Silver Phylactery): QVONIAM IHS XP OMNES[T] GENVA FLECTENT CAELESTES TERRESTRES ET INFERI ET OMNIS LINGVA CONFITEATVR [...] Phil 2:10-11 (Silver Phylactery, adapted): Quoniam [Iesu Christi] omnest genua flectent caelestes terrestres et inferi et omnis lingua confiteatur [...] Phil 2:10-11 (Vulgate): Ut in nomine Iesu omne genu flectatur caelestium terrestrium et infernorum et omnis lingua confiteatur quia Dominus Iesus Christus in gloria est Dei Patris. Phil 2:10-11 (Douay-Rheims [1899 American edition]): That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth: And that every tongue should confess that the Lord Jesus Christ is in the glory of God the Father.
Dr Falk, is that true ? I will quote „Jews are familiar with the term “with a strong hand and an outstretched Joshua Berman has pointed out that most arm", since it is a staple at the Passover Seder in describing how God is said to deliver his people.This comes from Exodus 6.6.Berman points out that this term is found all over Egypt in the 13th century bc writings and disappears after that and is never used”
I don't understand, how this is the earliest? Does the stator-rotas square found near Manchester dated to 185 AD not count as evidence of Christianity in the north roman empire? Far more north and much earlier
I have yet to watch this video. I am surprised that I heard about the news somewhere else first. I don't like that the article that got cited used the term "amulet" though. Let's see how this video handles it.
Do you feel that Protestants may have been a little too hasty in doing away with the veneration of Saints in light of this amulet demonstrating that it was a common practice among the early Christians?
I am not aware of anyone who has been too hasty. Scholars have known for a long time that the Cult of the Saints (or veneration of the Saints) was an ancient practice. It is one of the most earliest documented beliefs we have in the historical record concerning Early Christians. I say this as a Protestant. Very early second century, and it wouldn't surprise me if it stretched into the first century. It has many elements that reflect the broader beliefs of the Ancient Mediterranean world.
The fact that he was buried in a cemetery, and was likely a known Christian would suggest a period of general peace and religious tolerance in that region, even amidst the chaotic third century crisis. At least in that particular area he lived in.
Amazing ❤
A great video Dr Falk! I’m definitely going to share it with other people.
As for the discovery, I’m wasn’t surprised that it was found in Germany. But I was surprised by the clear saint veneration and the mention of hell. That’s really cool!
What an amazing discovery! Have a merry Christmas everyone
A manna machine video from Dr. Falk!?!? Looks like Christmas came early! Merry Christmas, doc, and thank you.
A merry christmas to you and your wife.
If I may ask what do you think of the Wes Huff vs Billy Carson debate that happened and Billy Carson's meltdown afterwards?
Within the context of the period, the region was in absolute chaos. The period between 230-270 AD was directly in the middle of the Crises of the Third Century.
During this period, there were some 15 emperors constantly fighting one another over control of the Empire. Such a chaotic period of time would have convinced many that the Roman gods had abandoned them and - in turn - many would have turned to Christianity.
What’s more intriguing is the mention of Saint Titus. Titus - a Greek - would have been appealing to Latins and Greeks; acting as a bridge between the Aramaic and Hebrew-speaking Jews - such as Paul, Peter, and so on - to the Greco-Roman world.
As far as I had learned from my Roman history professor, many of the Christian persecutions were much more localized around the power who instigated them, even those from the emperor. So I like what your producer said at the end, regarding that it might have been easier for a Roman Christian to live a sustained life outside of Rome's direct reach.
Another great vid Dr falk. Good points about the archeology and church fathers.
🎶 We wish you a merry Christmas, We wish you a merry Christmas, We wish you a merry Christmas, and a happy new year! 🎶
Very cool, thanks for sharing! Many of the phrases in this come directly from John's writings in the gospel of John and Revelation. I find that very interesting.
What a amazing discovery, Merry Christmas to you and your wife 🎄
I first heard from James Snapp Jr and his text criticism page
Read about rhis, but knew nothing about the mosiac. Thank and merry Christmas.
Really cool to see two witnesses!
Dr.David: vendi, vidi , vici !!!
Latin isn't that hard to learn: took it in high school.
This is a great find and is evidence that your favorite Data person is pushing his Dogma of Jesus viewed as God coming much latter than early Christianity.
Since this was found in Germany far removed from the Middle East and has an Orthodox view of Jesus as being God.
Dr Falk, 'In the name' is inferred by the researchers, I think what's present on the amulet is 'of Titus'. It could just as well be 'Prayer of St Titus', or even 'Amulet of Titus', with Titus as the name of the man who wore the amulet! Or the guy who made it. Or who knows.
I wish that, instead of the rather iffy translation, the press would have reported the actual Latin text that was deciphered, with lacunae clearly indicated.
Finally found something Dr. Falk is not great at, damn Latin😅
The find confirms the verse
Philippians 2:9-22 NIV: "Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father."
Jesus was exalted to be a god under his God, the Father.
John 20:17
Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’ ”
A god ??? John 20:28.
You need to read philipeans 2 again .
Jesus was in the form if God and then became human .
Nit a human that became God .
Read it again closely.
Philipeans 2 nrsv
Let the same mind be in you that was[a] in Christ Jesus,
6 who, though he existed in the form of God,
did not regard equality with God
as something to be grasped,
7 but emptied himself,
taking the form of a slave,
assuming human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a human,
8 he humbled himself
and became obedient to the point of death-
even death on a cross.
9 Therefore God exalted him even more highly
and gave him the name
that is above every other name,
10 so that at the name given to Jesus
every knee should bend,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue should confess
that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father
There is no “a god”, there is only one God. All three persons are (and have always been) that one God.
MANNA MACHINE ALERT🎉❤
I had an idea: The soldier suffered from seizures as a small or adolescent child and seeking out help, as any parent would, comes across someone who follows The Living GOD Who Can Heal. Healing the soldier of his condition and then creating this for the boy to hold onto and remember the Name of The One Who freed him from said torment. Something the soldier carried for the rest of his days, honoring The One who redeemed him.
Even if I'm not even close to his story, and im probably not, to think about the hundreds of ways he could have gotten there with it, shared it with his brothers in arms -the stories we share doing the same here and now and that GOD knows the number of hairs on each if our heards- that not a single story, single life, is forgotten makes it all the more beautiful. ^.^ More anthropology than archaeology maybe lo? Sorry 😅
I love your channel and I greatly enjoy hearing your producer's take!😊
(Please pardon any typos or misspellings, my hands are not working the best and speech to text, though it has come far, is still not fully there with all things. 😅 Proof reading only goes so far)
The reference to Saint Titus is interesting, is it possible he ministered in that area? The thought came to mind that perhaps this man was part of church that could trace its genealogy back to him.
I had some fun comparing the silver phylactery's quotation of Philippians to how the Latin translation eventually settled. Thought I'd share.
Phil 2:10-11 (Silver Phylactery): QVONIAM IHS XP OMNES[T] GENVA FLECTENT CAELESTES TERRESTRES ET INFERI ET OMNIS LINGVA CONFITEATVR [...]
Phil 2:10-11 (Silver Phylactery, adapted): Quoniam [Iesu Christi] omnest genua flectent caelestes terrestres et inferi et omnis lingua confiteatur [...]
Phil 2:10-11 (Vulgate): Ut in nomine Iesu omne genu flectatur caelestium terrestrium et infernorum et omnis lingua confiteatur quia Dominus Iesus Christus in gloria est Dei Patris.
Phil 2:10-11 (Douay-Rheims [1899 American edition]): That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those that are in heaven, on earth, and under the earth: And that every tongue should confess that the Lord Jesus Christ is in the glory of God the Father.
Dr Falk, is that true ? I will quote
„Jews are familiar with the
term “with a strong hand
and an outstretched
Joshua Berman has pointed out that most arm", since it is a staple at the Passover Seder in describing how God is said to deliver his people.This comes from Exodus 6.6.Berman points out that this term is found all over Egypt in the 13th century bc writings and disappears after that and is never used”
I don't understand, how this is the earliest? Does the stator-rotas square found near Manchester dated to 185 AD not count as evidence of Christianity in the north roman empire? Far more north and much earlier
I think they mean continentally.
I can just barely make out any letters at all from the image of the artifact used.
I have yet to watch this video.
I am surprised that I heard about the news somewhere else first. I don't like that the article that got cited used the term "amulet" though. Let's see how this video handles it.
Latin is Greek to me too.
Phylactery? Destroy it! The last thing we need is a Roman Lich returning!!!
🤪 Sorry, too much dnd.
Merry Christmas!
Do you feel that Protestants may have been a little too hasty in doing away with the veneration of Saints in light of this amulet demonstrating that it was a common practice among the early Christians?
Veneration means to show great respect. Many Protestants show great respect to the early saints and church fathers, so it wasn't done away with.
I am not aware of anyone who has been too hasty. Scholars have known for a long time that the Cult of the Saints (or veneration of the Saints) was an ancient practice. It is one of the most earliest documented beliefs we have in the historical record concerning Early Christians. I say this as a Protestant. Very early second century, and it wouldn't surprise me if it stretched into the first century. It has many elements that reflect the broader beliefs of the Ancient Mediterranean world.