Yes shame on you because aesthetics is literally the only reason. An mATX motherboard fits perfectly fine in an ATX case functionally. What did you expect?
yes, it wont look good. but the problem is 1. mATX still cheaper 2. case is futureproofing if you buy it big because even if you change your motherboard and your VGA is a 4090. small case cant fit it but big case will fit. 3. Fk esthetic, big case gives you better cable management and airflow. its like you want to stare at your PC all the time so you want to make it better looking, especially when your PC doesn't have RGB. Trust me, building a good-looking PC will satisfy your eyes for 1 week only. Build a powerful PC that will last its lifetime. EDIT : My PC use Lian Li 216 which can even fit 4090 and eATX but I decided to use 3060 Ti and mATX. My PC still look good. So clean, dont have many stuff in there. Airflow so good also. For standard usage only 50-55 Celsius. So cool.. Fk TJ max 95. I want it as cool as possible. 80 is my maximum tolerance for temperature.
I agree with the idea of future proofing if you plan to upgrade later down the road. Although I disagree with larger cases providing better airflow. It really depends on your case. Plenty of Micro ATX/ITX cases provide great airflow. I would say it is all about how efficient your cooling system is. When it comes to cable management…mine is so good it makes it look like some cables are completely missing from the build 😂. I’ve seen good cable management and just plain awful, the case won’t change that.
mATX looks better than ATX lol. ATX motherboards waste so much space and thats an eyesore if you ask me. Nobody needs a second pci x16 slot either that makes them look horrendous
Don't take advise from this guy. He doesn't even have his memory in the right slots. The manual for this particular board (ASRock B660M Pro RS) states slots 2 and 4 are what's recommended for a dual channel configuration. I've built dozens of full size machines with mATX boards and it looks fine.
He probably pulled that video from somewhere and just voiced over it cause the person in the video seems to be talking about the memory sticks since he's pointing at them and not the cables.
This is so BS. Not everyone has tempered glass or acrylic panels and stare at their PC insides all the time. My main PC has a glass panel and looks pretty good inside. But it's under the table and I look Inside once every couple of weeks just to check on dust accumulation. Tbh IDK why I bought the case with glass, there is a version without it. I use the PC, not stare at the insides. About a month ago I decided to complete a backup/work/server PC build with some spare parts left after upgrading my main one. I had a spare mid-tower case with no side window. I couldn't give less f**ks about how MB looks inside as long as it is compatible, cheap, has all required features and is stable. The real downside of mATX regardless of the case size is that you are limited on PCI slots. If your GPU is higher than 2 slots that's pretty much it. Or 2 slots, but requires a lot of cooling. You may have all the pci lanes in the world, it just won't fit without raiser cables.
PC's can be very beautiful and aesthetic inside and people customize the f out of them, that's why glass panels exist in the first place. I have my PC on my desk, and since it fits very well with my theme I prefer my case to have a glass panel. If you are not aesthetically inclined then I can understand not caring for a glass panel, however those who care for looks and to get a visual of the dust buildup inside WITHOUT removing the panel then glass is the better option.
@@shyryTsr2k Still, my point was: wording in video is bad. It shouldn't be "don't install", it should be probably "you might not want to". There are valid reason to use fullsize case for mATX motherboard. It includes price, components you already have, cooling concerns, etc... I mentioned about dust build-up btw. I didn't say that looks are not valid reason to avoid this combo. I just said that a lot of people who prefer funсtion over form.
@@nikolaikolyagoI don’t know where this idea came from, but people really need to look at major test that have been conducted by reputable RUclipsrs on this topic. A larger case does not equal better cooling…an efficient cooling system equals better cooling.
@@onlyfacts3502 I mean, you sometimes just can't fit "efficient cooling system" into smaller case... For exaple big air cooler or larger radiator. I mean, it's not always, but it can be the case.
@@nikolaikolyago I agree completely. I think a larger case allows for a cheaper cooling system. You have to put a little bit more money, and effort into making a Midsize, or Mini ITX efficient in cooling. A full-size ATX case is definitely more entry PC enthusiasts friendly. I get great cooling in my midsize case, but it probably cost me double because I couldn’t afford to cut corners with cheap fans, or a cheap CPU cooler.
Exactly, I mean, just cuz the guy sucks at buying cases isn’t the mATX MB fault, 😂. Even my 2017 Cougar Reliant case has cable peak holes on all sides of the tray
What is cable management? What us a vertical gpu? What is all that available space for decorations and screens.. DoNt PuT a MiCrO aTx On A fUlL sIzE ToWer...
If you want to fix the aesthetic of this, just get a shroud to hide the cables if you care that much. Custom from a company or 3d print your own. There are numerous things you could do to fix the aesthetics.
depends, if the case doesn't have a glass panel or if theglass panel is dark/black stained is not as noticeable, I myself have a mATX motherboard in full ATX case (mainly cause my previous motherboard was full ATX) and it doesn't look any bad, plus having a full ATX case allows you to optionally upgrade to a full ATX board whereas a micro ATX one will limit you to micro ATX motherboards while full ATX will support every other motherboard size
Nonsense. This is a stupid reason to not buy some components. If your budget is limited and you have a choice between quality components that may not look perfectly together or bad components that look amazing together,you should go for those that are better. You want your PC to last and perform well. Just don't stare at the hole the entire time and it shall be fine. Most of the time you won't even notice it...well unless you are like this guy that is.
Well, I'll have to do this because I have a huge ATX case and planning to just get a mATX to upgrade and have no plan to switch from a perfectly usable case just because of aesthetics
I fail to see how people who had to settle for mATX boards inside ATX cases during the pandemic for budgetary and availability reasons should now be shamed for it some 2 years after the fact because of "aesthetics" is how to grow your channel. Holy PCMR snobbery, Batman! This is going to age like curdled milk ...😂
We need more street car content. Its hard to do though with all the cars being 9 seconds. Fast enough to need a cage but once you go cage then you might as well go full race.
What you arent mentioning os that once you purchase an atx mobo you are locked to a monster sized case if you ever wamt to downsize it. I jist wemt from all HDD (Storage, my boot drive was aways nvme) to NVME storage and wanted to downsize my case and now im only to use these cases that rival the size of a baby mammoth.
What a crock of 💩I started this way, but left room for upgrades later on. Now the case looks full and complete, but the most important thing is I had a functioning PC as I upgraded.
Mate, I was expecting a more serious reason than that. Why should I have to spend all that money and faff around switching my hardware to a different board just because my existing one would look shit in my new case?
A smaller case does not equal less airflow, or poor cooling. People need to seriously educate themselves. I don’t know where this started or who started it, but cooling efficiency has nothing to do with the size of your case. It all depends on build quality, and the efficiency of your cooling system. A larger case does not equal better airflow…this statement is very disingenuous, and misleading to new PC enthusiasts.
It's not him notice how the guy in the video is pointing at the ram sticks but he's talking about the cables? He burrowed this footage to use as an example the original was probably talking about incorrect ram slots.
Considering you don’t even know how to install ram correctly, I doubt anyone will take you seriously. Also, what are you pointing at? Cuz that isn’t a power cable. The reason I ask is because you are talking about power headers(they are called headers btw, you seemed to be struggling with that)but you are pointing at an empty slot, for ram. Good day sir/madam
He's using old footage of him talking about incorrect ram slots that footage also had a microatx motherboard with a full size case so I guess he reused if for simplicity.
I'm lost with this video, manufacturers of the case states what board you can use. So it's only a matter of opinion and preference of the individual, so this video is invalid. So are you able to install itx board in mid and full cases yes, don't let someone tell you that you can't, because it looks terrible to them.
for a second I thought there would be a real reason, but no its just another cable management c*ck Srsly back in my day we didnt even have clear side panels and let our FPS to the talking for us.
Just run your cables from the side and cable manage them together using velcro straps or zip/twist ties to make them neat. Don't listen to this guy, he's either an idiot or just looking to get views with his hot take.
DO NOT take this guy's advice. If the case you use right now is in good shape and has good cooling, it does not need to be replaced. This guy is a clown for telling people this advice.
You installed ram in the wrong slots, though. So wouldn't take this advice seriously.
This guy has Down syndrome be nice
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I was kinda expecting some better reason than "esthetics" for this, so shame on me!
Nah man it's unnecessary and ugly 😂
@@GhostPlaysCodm ill gladly pay $25 less for slightly uglier, don’t know why people care so much
@jones_y i was regretting of having matx board with atx case thus I'm here. But then realized my 3 fan oc 3060 may not fit matx cases lol
@@jones_yOr you could just buy a smaller case... For the same price...
Yes shame on you because aesthetics is literally the only reason. An mATX motherboard fits perfectly fine in an ATX case functionally. What did you expect?
yes, it wont look good. but the problem is
1. mATX still cheaper
2. case is futureproofing if you buy it big because even if you change your motherboard and your VGA is a 4090. small case cant fit it but big case will fit.
3. Fk esthetic, big case gives you better cable management and airflow. its like you want to stare at your PC all the time so you want to make it better looking, especially when your PC doesn't have RGB.
Trust me, building a good-looking PC will satisfy your eyes for 1 week only. Build a powerful PC that will last its lifetime.
EDIT : My PC use Lian Li 216 which can even fit 4090 and eATX but I decided to use 3060 Ti and mATX. My PC still look good. So clean, dont have many stuff in there. Airflow so good also. For standard usage only 50-55 Celsius. So cool.. Fk TJ max 95. I want it as cool as possible. 80 is my maximum tolerance for temperature.
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Hi, so can i put matx mobo to mid tower case?
Of course. I even built my PC using lian li 216 which can even take 4080 and eATX but still use matx and 3060 ti.
I agree with the idea of future proofing if you plan to upgrade later down the road. Although I disagree with larger cases providing better airflow. It really depends on your case. Plenty of Micro ATX/ITX cases provide great airflow. I would say it is all about how efficient your cooling system is. When it comes to cable management…mine is so good it makes it look like some cables are completely missing from the build 😂. I’ve seen good cable management and just plain awful, the case won’t change that.
mATX looks better than ATX lol. ATX motherboards waste so much space and thats an eyesore if you ask me. Nobody needs a second pci x16 slot either that makes them look horrendous
Don't take advise from this guy. He doesn't even have his memory in the right slots. The manual for this particular board (ASRock B660M Pro RS) states slots 2 and 4 are what's recommended for a dual channel configuration. I've built dozens of full size machines with mATX boards and it looks fine.
He probably pulled that video from somewhere and just voiced over it cause the person in the video seems to be talking about the memory sticks since he's pointing at them and not the cables.
this guy is a clown lmfao
That large space comes handy for me when I troubleshoot
A2 B2 * if you're gonna "I read the manual" it
@@chrisjuengling1983 2/4, A2 B2 who really cares?
Bruh i thought it would mess up like the pc but I don’t give a crap about aesthetics
right??
Such a trivial reason
You heard it here first guys.
Don't do it.
Saving money is not that important it's gonna look bad.
😂
ong, idgaf abt looks, my case if fully blacked out, i like saving money
if saving money is not that bad then why dont you have a 15K gaming pc huh?
If you buy a m-atx board to save money and got a full size tower, you're just retarded.
spoiled ahh kid from dhar mann
This is so BS.
Not everyone has tempered glass or acrylic panels and stare at their PC insides all the time.
My main PC has a glass panel and looks pretty good inside. But it's under the table and I look Inside once every couple of weeks just to check on dust accumulation. Tbh IDK why I bought the case with glass, there is a version without it. I use the PC, not stare at the insides.
About a month ago I decided to complete a backup/work/server PC build with some spare parts left after upgrading my main one. I had a spare mid-tower case with no side window. I couldn't give less f**ks about how MB looks inside as long as it is compatible, cheap, has all required features and is stable.
The real downside of mATX regardless of the case size is that you are limited on PCI slots. If your GPU is higher than 2 slots that's pretty much it. Or 2 slots, but requires a lot of cooling. You may have all the pci lanes in the world, it just won't fit without raiser cables.
PC's can be very beautiful and aesthetic inside and people customize the f out of them, that's why glass panels exist in the first place. I have my PC on my desk, and since it fits very well with my theme I prefer my case to have a glass panel. If you are not aesthetically inclined then I can understand not caring for a glass panel, however those who care for looks and to get a visual of the dust buildup inside WITHOUT removing the panel then glass is the better option.
@@shyryTsr2k Still, my point was: wording in video is bad. It shouldn't be "don't install", it should be probably "you might not want to". There are valid reason to use fullsize case for mATX motherboard. It includes price, components you already have, cooling concerns, etc...
I mentioned about dust build-up btw.
I didn't say that looks are not valid reason to avoid this combo. I just said that a lot of people who prefer funсtion over form.
@@nikolaikolyagoI don’t know where this idea came from, but people really need to look at major test that have been conducted by reputable RUclipsrs on this topic. A larger case does not equal better cooling…an efficient cooling system equals better cooling.
@@onlyfacts3502 I mean, you sometimes just can't fit "efficient cooling system" into smaller case... For exaple big air cooler or larger radiator. I mean, it's not always, but it can be the case.
@@nikolaikolyago I agree completely. I think a larger case allows for a cheaper cooling system. You have to put a little bit more money, and effort into making a Midsize, or Mini ITX efficient in cooling. A full-size ATX case is definitely more entry PC enthusiasts friendly. I get great cooling in my midsize case, but it probably cost me double because I couldn’t afford to cut corners with cheap fans, or a cheap CPU cooler.
You just run the cables from the side....
Exactly, I mean, just cuz the guy sucks at buying cases isn’t the mATX MB fault, 😂. Even my 2017 Cougar Reliant case has cable peak holes on all sides of the tray
What is cable management?
What us a vertical gpu?
What is all that available space for decorations and screens..
DoNt PuT a MiCrO aTx On A fUlL sIzE ToWer...
Opinions are like a**holes 😅
If you want to fix the aesthetic of this, just get a shroud to hide the cables if you care that much. Custom from a company or 3d print your own. There are numerous things you could do to fix the aesthetics.
depends, if the case doesn't have a glass panel or if theglass panel is dark/black stained is not as noticeable, I myself have a mATX motherboard in full ATX case (mainly cause my previous motherboard was full ATX) and it doesn't look any bad, plus having a full ATX case allows you to optionally upgrade to a full ATX board whereas a micro ATX one will limit you to micro ATX motherboards while full ATX will support every other motherboard size
But you'll have more room for fans and your gpu won't be starving for cool air
nah, not the ram slots 😭
What? Of course I would install it into a full tower. How else will I be able to fit 2 motherboards and 2 power supplies?
I made this mistake. It is an eyesore tbf
Don't care. When I use my pc, I watch the screen, not the case.
Nonsense.
This is a stupid reason to not buy some components.
If your budget is limited and you have a choice between quality components that may not look perfectly together or bad components that look amazing together,you should go for those that are better.
You want your PC to last and perform well.
Just don't stare at the hole the entire time and it shall be fine.
Most of the time you won't even notice it...well unless you are like this guy that is.
Okay other than the F*##k’d up ram… can I install a Full size ATX motherboard into a Mini ITX case????! 😅(please answer)
my guy never had to do hardline watercooling his entire life.
I’m a seasoned pc flipper. I’ve done this once and it actually looked great! I would route the cable under the mobo!
Well, I'll have to do this because I have a huge ATX case and planning to just get a mATX to upgrade and have no plan to switch from a perfectly usable case just because of aesthetics
What? Just because the cable doesn't look good then don't use it? You gotta be kidding me, why should I care how it look inside?
Don't put a M-atx in your board because he doesn't like it
hey everyone, i am getting a pc, its an matx mobo with an atx case, is it going to be fine in terms of screwing the mobo into the case
"Tips for beginners: build for looks"
I fail to see how people who had to settle for mATX boards inside ATX cases during the pandemic for budgetary and availability reasons should now be shamed for it some 2 years after the fact because of "aesthetics" is how to grow your channel. Holy PCMR snobbery, Batman! This is going to age like curdled milk ...😂
Can you pinpoint what part of the video he ragged on said people? Because all I heard was something something "new builders".
If you make it look bad for a RUclips video then yeah.
Says the one who doesn't know what dual channel RAM is.
We need more street car content. Its hard to do though with all the cars being 9 seconds. Fast enough to need a cage but once you go cage then you might as well go full race.
that's crazy, any ways i insalled it
its not too late to delete this video
Don't put a micro atx board in a full size case, if you are running cpu stock cooling and have no plans to upgrade or add liquid cooling.
I made a build like this, and it looks great! Just cable manage.
What you arent mentioning os that once you purchase an atx mobo you are locked to a monster sized case if you ever wamt to downsize it. I jist wemt from all HDD (Storage, my boot drive was aways nvme) to NVME storage and wanted to downsize my case and now im only to use these cases that rival the size of a baby mammoth.
If youi put the cables behind the backplane and fed them out thru the slots on the right, you would not see that mess... learn to wire a case.
I've been Using Micro ATX from 2013. Still its good for gamming
i disagree. cables can look good and even rgb.
As soon as i seen the placement of them ram sticks, i knew not to take this video seriously.
If you don't care about Astehtics, then go right ahead, don't let a shallow reason save you a couple of buckaroos.
bro really put the ram in the wrong slots just to make haters comment, call him names, but he's a genius 😂
What a crock of 💩I started this way, but left room for upgrades later on. Now the case looks full and complete, but the most important thing is I had a functioning PC as I upgraded.
Mate, I was expecting a more serious reason than that. Why should I have to spend all that money and faff around switching my hardware to a different board just because my existing one would look shit in my new case?
i run my cables through the sides and rear, i also have more space for my hotwheels and fans
Hardly a big problem for most people.
The reason is only aesthetics? 🌚
I have such a fat gpu on my micro atx mobo that i don’t even notice
FYI Your Rams not installed properly.
I mean, sorta. atx cases are the cheapest usually. with mATX mobos being the cheapest. I stopped doing this not to long ago.
Bad tip. I dont have glass.
So..cosmetically it’s not gonna look good? that’s it??dawg I’m here to game not to show off 😭
My personal tldr: you can do it if you already ordered the wrong case or just wanted to save up on a motherboard but itll look ugly, thanks😂
A smaller case does not equal less airflow, or poor cooling. People need to seriously educate themselves. I don’t know where this started or who started it, but cooling efficiency has nothing to do with the size of your case. It all depends on build quality, and the efficiency of your cooling system. A larger case does not equal better airflow…this statement is very disingenuous, and misleading to new PC enthusiasts.
Bruh you have your RAM in the 1 and 4 slot, no dual channel for you, and not being taken seriously by us. "Beginners" he says lol
Learn how to install the components correctly first before trying to make your PC look "good"
What if I don't care about aesthetics?
Who cares as long as it functions as it should? It wouldn't look that bad anyway.
not everyone cares about how it looks as long as it works and is within budget
But now u got room to install a mini monitor
personally i have a micro atx motherboard in a full size case because i have installed my gpu vertially.
Yeah right, say that if you managed to install ram sticks in correct position
It's not him notice how the guy in the video is pointing at the ram sticks but he's talking about the cables? He burrowed this footage to use as an example the original was probably talking about incorrect ram slots.
or you can do cable management
And also
Don't install those 2 sticks of ram like that
and if I dont care about the looks? (no clear side on case ja no desire for rgbs)
not taking this advice w those ram in those slots😭
What crap advice. Also, your RAM is installed incorrectly.
Why’s that ram social distancing?
The ram🗿
wtf did you do to the ram bro
Considering you don’t even know how to install ram correctly, I doubt anyone will take you seriously. Also, what are you pointing at? Cuz that isn’t a power cable. The reason I ask is because you are talking about power headers(they are called headers btw, you seemed to be struggling with that)but you are pointing at an empty slot, for ram. Good day sir/madam
He's using old footage of him talking about incorrect ram slots that footage also had a microatx motherboard with a full size case so I guess he reused if for simplicity.
Don't take up accounting bro
i did it and mine looks way better. don't even have modular cables 🤷♂️
Bullshit. Just for aesthetics.... I thought it might have airflow problems.
But NoOo, CaBlEs MiGhT LoOk DiSoRgANiZeD.
ikr what a clown
Just change case, problem solved.
The Cess. Lol
I'm lost with this video, manufacturers of the case states what board you can use. So it's only a matter of opinion and preference of the individual, so this video is invalid. So are you able to install itx board in mid and full cases yes, don't let someone tell you that you can't, because it looks terrible to them.
Simplemente se pasan por detrás y quedan bien, además tiene mal instalados los módulos de memoria ram. El principiante es él.
Just do it for the shits and giggles
Bro wtf did you do with those rams 😒
i have doing it and you dont see any cable your full of bs
I bought a small case for aesthetics, now my new GPU wont fit. Soooooooooooooooooooooooooo fuck emm
It doesn't look that bad
gonna give you a dislike for not giving a real tip....oh yea and you installed your ram wrong. GG
for a second I thought there would be a real reason, but no its just another cable management c*ck Srsly back in my day we didnt even have clear side panels and let our FPS to the talking for us.
won't take advice from the person that puts their ram in their 1st and 4th slots
Giving bad advice and has his ram in wrong slots.
Dose it works?? If yes tf do you care about looks for??
Lol so the reason os that it’s look’s not cool😂alright mate cheers for sharing ur wisdom with us😂
This is stupid. Just put the gpu on the bottom slot.
This is dumb. I expected some other reasons like blocked airflow or maybe the motherboard ground screw doesn't fit or something.
So? 😂 technically does the same thing, and if you have a side panel with no window then Who’s going to care?
And?
Why would I listen to a guy who installed his ram sticks on wrong slots. Bloody hell.
So should I replace my MSI Pro B660M-A now that I've purchased a Lian Li Lancool 216 case?
No, it won't hurt anything, just not look as good.
I have lian Li lancool 216 and micro ATX mobo and it's has a good airflow nevermind about the aesthetic
Don't listen to him. It won't look as bad as his bs example. Especially if you have a big gpu and fans down there.
Just run your cables from the side and cable manage them together using velcro straps or zip/twist ties to make them neat.
Don't listen to this guy, he's either an idiot or just looking to get views with his hot take.
DO NOT take this guy's advice. If the case you use right now is in good shape and has good cooling, it does not need to be replaced. This guy is a clown for telling people this advice.
The joke. All the commenters 😮
i dont care about looks at all
So scientific.... click bait
automatic dislike 😂
I expected better from you.