I haven’t used either of those but I am gonna try them soon, I know a lot of you out there are not big fans of chemical guys, while I don’t like all of their stuff there are a few that I really like the thing I don’t like is that they have too many products that are supposed to do the same thing, I think they should slim their line down a little, quality over quantity
I just did Adam's Advanced Graphene Coating on 2 new cars (dealer detailed - arghhh) and in the prep I used Chemical Guys Orange pad and white pad paired with C4 and P4. One was a grey VW ID4 which has a moderately hard paint I would say and took a lot of pressure and passes to get rid of some of the swirls using C4 and Orange pad. One was a Black Honda HRV and it was soft paint and I almost needed to polish last again with P4 with a Black pad because even white pad would leave some marring. Anyway, the bottom line is as a newbie if I was doing it again I would have used a microfiber pad on the VW with C4 to cut a bit faster and get rid of those scratches faster. On the Hinda I would have stayed with Orange pad with C4 and do the P4 with white pad but with almost no pressure on it. I really need to get that microfiber 6 inch pad. I was using TorqX from Chemical Guys for the DA. It took me a couple of days to get each car prepped. So basically 5 days of total prep work on brand new cars. Swirl marks everywhere on them and their detailer at the dealers were awful. I could see scratches they put on the car.
I've got the 3d on the way and a chemical guys polisher kit with the c4 and p4 I ordered today, not sure what products to use first lol, guess I'll test them all. Got that chemical guys kit for 109 on their website though. Sweet deal
i don’t know why but i had a horrible experience with C4, it was insanely hard to pull off it stuck to the paint like an oil. i'm not sure if it was the environment, temperatures in my garage were low 100's
Yeah in the temps above 90 you will notice that it will flash rapidly and become much harder to work with and have less working time. keep a spray bottle of water by your side. Just do a quick spray of mist over the area after each section pass and it'll make it easier to remove and but increase your working time as well.
That’s tell tale sign that you are trying to do too large of an area for the amount of compound you had applied. Work a smaller space for that amount or add more when you reach the point where it started to stick.
I’m a beginner planing to use the chemical guys c4&p4 and On the chemical guys they recommend high speed setting is that correct or a mistake bc seems everyone use low speed ..
High speeds destroy the pads quicker, induces unnecessary heat, and wear on the machines. If you have to use a speed higher than 4, then your not using the right pad and cutting compound.
@@p2pautodetailing550 I would say 5 or 6 with C4 on CG own TorqX. I think it is more close to 4 for other brands. I just did two cars with it and 4 would have definitely not worked well. So if you have a polisher like a Flex or even Griors G9 then perhaps 4 for cutting is fine. Not on CG TorqX from first hand experience.
@@aaronaaron9087 for waxes I've not found one that is easily accessible to get that I'd be happy with. Soft Fuso 99 would be my go to of I had to use a wax. But I'd rather use a spray sealant that has Si02 or Graphene in it instead. They are easy to apply and Buff clean. Most will last as long as any paste wax but typically nicer finish. Check out Extreme Solutions Jersey Devil or Topper for starters. Then there is the Geyon Can Coat that is amazing. And finally my favorite of all is IGL Premier.
We've stopped using the product as we have found Sonax and Meguiars are still superior products with equal or lower pricing. Even when we paired the C4/P4 with heavier cutting pads from other manufacturers.
What combo would you use on a 2016 Honda HRV black. I believe the clear coat is soft. It scratched very easily in a car wash. I’m looking to cut/polish or one step possible and then apply CarPro CQuarts 3.0 twice. What combo would you recommend sir? Thank you!!
Hi Dakota, without being able to see the condition of the paint and or do a test spot ourselves. Our suggestion would be to start with the less aggressive polishing pad and compounds.
Hey! I can’t find a legitimate answer to this question... would you recommend the V line or these two new chemical guys products? Not entirely sure what the difference is
@@TheRebaholic01 There isn't a straight answer to that question. Every vehicle's clear coat or paint will be different from each other. So using 1 product over another is not as simple as most people think. Plus, it would also depend on the polishing pads you use. A soft clear coat with a heavy cut pad would absolutely remove too much clear coat way too quick. But then an ultra-hard clear coat these products wouldn't do so good on at all. You have to figure out what products (Compound/Polishing Chemical paired with Pads) will be the right pairing or setup to complete the job. As in this video you can see that I used 3 other setups to compare the effectiveness of different pads teamed up with different compounds and you get different results.
You do not need to use Sonax Branded Pads to use their compound and polish. I've been using Meguiars and Sonax compounds and polishes for years. And have tried every pad on the market. The Lake Country pads have identical results and or better than any other pad on the market. To believe that you MUST use a specific brand of pad with a specific brand of compound or polish is like telling me that driving a Porsche means I should only use Chevron Fuel Only and NOT any other fuel.
I haven’t used either of those but I am gonna try them soon, I know a lot of you out there are not big fans of chemical guys, while I don’t like all of their stuff there are a few that I really like the thing I don’t like is that they have too many products that are supposed to do the same thing, I think they should slim their line down a little, quality over quantity
Our problem with Chemical Guys and others similar to then. Is the higher cost versus other brands that perform better for less cost.
While others are bashing CG C4 and P4, thanks for objectively testing them with a top of the line Sonax.
I just did Adam's Advanced Graphene Coating on 2 new cars (dealer detailed - arghhh) and in the prep I used Chemical Guys Orange pad and white pad paired with C4 and P4. One was a grey VW ID4 which has a moderately hard paint I would say and took a lot of pressure and passes to get rid of some of the swirls using C4 and Orange pad. One was a Black Honda HRV and it was soft paint and I almost needed to polish last again with P4 with a Black pad because even white pad would leave some marring. Anyway, the bottom line is as a newbie if I was doing it again I would have used a microfiber pad on the VW with C4 to cut a bit faster and get rid of those scratches faster. On the Hinda I would have stayed with Orange pad with C4 and do the P4 with white pad but with almost no pressure on it. I really need to get that microfiber 6 inch pad. I was using TorqX from Chemical Guys for the DA. It took me a couple of days to get each car prepped. So basically 5 days of total prep work on brand new cars. Swirl marks everywhere on them and their detailer at the dealers were awful. I could see scratches they put on the car.
Good review. I just bought the C4/P4 and am anxious to try them out. My go to has been 3D One for the longest time.
Me too
I've got the 3d on the way and a chemical guys polisher kit with the c4 and p4 I ordered today, not sure what products to use first lol, guess I'll test them all. Got that chemical guys kit for 109 on their website though. Sweet deal
Weird , my C4 and P4 had the seal stuck in the cap too 🤣 both of them
Nope me too lmao
me to
Great video. I like chemical guys hexlogic pads especially paired with a single step not a big van of their compounds. B
this was a great laid out comparison, good stuff!
Thank you, we will be doing our best to provide direct comparison videos that will compare CG products to other products that we use.
i don’t know why but i had a horrible experience with C4, it was insanely hard to pull off it stuck to the paint like an oil. i'm not sure if it was the environment, temperatures in my garage were low 100's
Yeah in the temps above 90 you will notice that it will flash rapidly and become much harder to work with and have less working time. keep a spray bottle of water by your side. Just do a quick spray of mist over the area after each section pass and it'll make it easier to remove and but increase your working time as well.
@@p2pautodetailing550 thanks man!
That’s tell tale sign that you are trying to do too large of an area for the amount of compound you had applied. Work a smaller space for that amount or add more when you reach the point where it started to stick.
Interesting comparo. Keep em coming.
I’m a beginner planing to use the chemical guys c4&p4 and On the chemical guys they recommend high speed setting is that correct or a mistake bc seems everyone use low speed ..
High speeds destroy the pads quicker, induces unnecessary heat, and wear on the machines. If you have to use a speed higher than 4, then your not using the right pad and cutting compound.
@@p2pautodetailing550 I would say 5 or 6 with C4 on CG own TorqX. I think it is more close to 4 for other brands. I just did two cars with it and 4 would have definitely not worked well. So if you have a polisher like a Flex or even Griors G9 then perhaps 4 for cutting is fine. Not on CG TorqX from first hand experience.
After the c4 & P4 what wax would you spray wax or wet wax or something else from chemical guys. Thank u
I wouldn't. I am not a fan of waxes from Chemical Guys.
None of their waxes are something I would bother using.
@@p2pautodetailing550 thank u,one more question want wax would you recommend and thanks again.
@@aaronaaron9087 for waxes I've not found one that is easily accessible to get that I'd be happy with.
Soft Fuso 99 would be my go to of I had to use a wax.
But I'd rather use a spray sealant that has Si02 or Graphene in it instead. They are easy to apply and Buff clean. Most will last as long as any paste wax but typically nicer finish.
Check out Extreme Solutions Jersey Devil or Topper for starters. Then there is the Geyon Can Coat that is amazing. And finally my favorite of all is IGL Premier.
@@p2pautodetailing550 ok thank u for your help ,take care have a good day
i have the chemical guys c4 clear cut ive shacked it still seems waterdown has anyone had this issue
We've stopped using the product as we have found Sonax and Meguiars are still superior products with equal or lower pricing.
Even when we paired the C4/P4 with heavier cutting pads from other manufacturers.
What combo would you use on a 2016 Honda HRV black. I believe the clear coat is soft. It scratched very easily in a car wash. I’m looking to cut/polish or one step possible and then apply CarPro CQuarts 3.0 twice. What combo would you recommend sir? Thank you!!
Hi Dakota, without being able to see the condition of the paint and or do a test spot ourselves. Our suggestion would be to start with the less aggressive polishing pad and compounds.
@@p2pautodetailing550 I understand completely. I will keep that in mind. Thank you so much!
Hey! I can’t find a legitimate answer to this question... would you recommend the V line or these two new chemical guys products? Not entirely sure what the difference is
@@TheRebaholic01 There isn't a straight answer to that question.
Every vehicle's clear coat or paint will be different from each other. So using 1 product over another is not as simple as most people think.
Plus, it would also depend on the polishing pads you use.
A soft clear coat with a heavy cut pad would absolutely remove too much clear coat way too quick.
But then an ultra-hard clear coat these products wouldn't do so good on at all.
You have to figure out what products (Compound/Polishing Chemical paired with Pads) will be the right pairing or setup to complete the job.
As in this video you can see that I used 3 other setups to compare the effectiveness of different pads teamed up with different compounds and you get different results.
@@p2pautodetailing550 thank u what wax would you recommend after applying does products for a better mirror shine and thanks again.
That makes it tw0 steos pricess why not a one step less work
U need use sonax pads for cut and finish look the videos to how use sonax and u go see the results
You do not need to use Sonax Branded Pads to use their compound and polish. I've been using Meguiars and Sonax compounds and polishes for years. And have tried every pad on the market.
The Lake Country pads have identical results and or better than any other pad on the market.
To believe that you MUST use a specific brand of pad with a specific brand of compound or polish is like telling me that driving a Porsche means I should only use Chevron Fuel Only and NOT any other fuel.
@@ThGrtCanadian because the results in the video not look good is my opinion