No se si se haya confirmado su preferencia, pero lo encontre muy bueno. Es la heroina que va por pueblo rompiendo corazones, como en su tiempo lo fue Indiana Jones. Seyka me parecio lo mas cercano a un querer de Aloy, algo super natural considerando la hostoria de cada una. Muy buen juego 😊
I personally lean towards Aloy being straight (there is far more evidence in both Zero Dawn and Forbidden West that show Aloy is into guys rather than girls - which is what makes the DLC very strange, considering her romantic interest in Seyka comes literally out of nowhere); however, even if she were to be interested in women, I'd see her as bi rather than strictly lesbian.
@@amirrezaafzalinia1556 Nothing wrong with supporting LGBTQ+; I'm just not a fan of Aloy being OOC (when compared to the previous installments of the same game) and this optional romance feeling incredibly forced. No lie - the plot and Seyka's overall design ( Why is she dressed like a butterfly?! She doesn't even look like she belongs in this universe with how excessively pretty she is) makes me think of a poorly written self insert fanfic that is just a cheap re-write of Forbidden West's third act.
Can you really say it's confirmed when it's entirely up to the player if she kisses Seyka or turns her down? In all honesty, given that for the last two games, Aloy has been so focused on saving humanity from looming threats that she hasn't had any real time to learn how to properly socialize, let alone start a relationship with companions she's spend more time with/knows better; to have her suddenly hook up with a random Quen lady she barely knows feels incredibly rushed/forced.
@@gamerkrish7182 The same can be said for Aloy's interaction with Avad (she has an option where she says she wants to return to Meridian - and Avad - when her mission is complete); I think there's even a romantic option for Erend. Even her body language when it comes to certain moments in game implies she's into guys (shyly smiling/fidgeting when talking with Avad, visibly torn when she notices the attraction between Varl and Zo, or how she allows Erend to embrace her). Even in Zero Dawn. Aloy doesn't seem to be at all respective to women flirting with her. But folks dismiss all those options/interactions by claiming Burning Shores confirms Aloy is a lesbian, despite the fact that the choice to kiss Seyka is an option, and Aloy's attraction to her comes literally out of nowhere - given everything we've seen of Aloy in the two previous games.
Aloys crush was literally documented every time they interacted? not sure where the " it came from nowhere" comment came from, did you pay attention to the small details of both of them constantly complimenting each other, the touches, the concern for each other if they got hurt or are scared/unsure? Aloy doesn't display that behavior any other time especially not with another man. Your mistaking her fidgeting and glancing away as being interested when its her being uncomfortable with a male character.. When Aloy is with Erend in the beginning HE is interested in HER but its not reciprocated. Don't forget that burning shores was a DLC that came out a year after Forbidden West and 6 years after Zero Dawn. Unfortunately in 2017 acceptance of LGBTQ characters WASN'T a thing. Guerilla clearly changed with the times and allowed their character to fall under that category. Aloy was always aloof when in came to romance in the first and second game and only "came out" during the DLC. Even if you turn Seyka down If you go to Varls grave every single choice that can be made she says something along the lines of how she isn't ready for a relationship with Seyka but "maybe one day". You don't say something like that if you're straight. there are zero real concrete situations that I saw that told me that she was into a man. Also, the biggest factor is, Elisebet was Lesbian, Aloy is her clone. 😂 Tell me of any time in either game where Aloy looked at a dude with heart eyes like she does to Seyka many many times
and your comment about being jealous of Zo in regards to Varl is just wrong. Aloy noticed that Varl and Zo kissed, or were into each other, nothing more. This is the same mindset about Ellie from The Last of Us, that's like saying That Ellie and Henry where into each other 😆 Also just like how people were surprised that Ellie is also Gay.
@@senpairaijin7079 For the last two and a half games prior to Burning Shores, Aloy was distant/struggled with making connections with those around her. To suddenly have her become a flirting machine with a random Quen woman she comes across is very OOC for her. Also - about Elisabet. 1) there is no proof that Elisabet was actually a lesbian. The only evidence there is to support that is Tilda's word, and we learn as the game progresses that she's not to be trusted. Evem that audio clip that Aloy comes across doesn't confirm anything as the exchange is just Tilda convincing Elisabet into giving the Zenith's a copy of Apollo. There is no warmth in that exchange - even in her last uttered words, Elisabet sounds more tired than sad. And even if Elisabet was a lesbian, being her clone does not mean Aloy herself would be a lesbian, as that would imply sexual preference is encoded in ones genes rather than being something someone figures out as they grow/engage with others.
The romance with the girl is optional. Personally, i'd rather that alloy was bi. But didnt played the dlc so i dont really have any opinion about seyka.
She's just an emotionally underdeveloped teen with childhood abuse, no childhood friends. Plus she is attracted to Avad. Plus she practically eliminates Seyka in all three dialogue options.
Lmao even in her nicest dialogue with avad she actively is looking for a way out with him. Avad is attracted to her but she has friend zoned him at best
@@jordanweinberg4579 Then watch it again. She's not evading Avad because blushing all the time, plus that "and you" and "what comes after"… She's evading the emotional distraction. ruclips.net/video/QeJ_2VV2Z24/видео.html
@merion297 she fumbles all over seyka through half of their interactions and the best she can give Avad is that she hopes to see him again someday. There is nothing even remotely flirtatious on her end with Avad. I'm also confused how she's too emotionally underdeveloped for Seyka but not Avad?
@@jordanweinberg4579 Yes, because they have no such emotional connection through their common adventure with Avad, as she had with Seyka. The entire story of DLC is about showing this as it gets built up between them and in Aloy's emotions. You still think about her as an adult. She's not an adult, emotionally. She's a teen, like a 12-yo girl today the first deep emotion of whom is experienced with another girl.
I donno. It feels this was done just to check off diversity and inclusion checkbox in the expansion. Just like they did Ellie in Last of us. Turned her lesbian in the DLC. Aloy seemed abit jealous when Varl hooked up with Zo. It was clear as day. So I dont buy the lesbian thing with Aloy. Also Aloy didnt protest when Avad told her to comeback after she is done with her mission and that he will be waiting. She seem to have a positive reaction.
I think this has to do more with generic female psychology. It's similar to how HR rejects a job seeker by saying "We'll get back to you" but they never respond later on. In Horizon 3 we can only expect Aloy to get more intimate with Seyka even though it's hard to believe.
@@gamerkrish7182 I guess. Personally I think they should have added more romance options from the start and allowed the player more freedom to choose. Would have been much morr organic in my opinion. This Seyka relationship/kiss felt way too artificial and very little time to develop.
@@gamerkrish7182 keep dreaming the most it will be just like this is just an option as to who she choses with the canon choice being whoever the player chose
@@gamerkrish7182 Doubtful. If a DLC had any effect on the plot of a game, then the events in Frozen Wilds (Zero Dawn's DLC) would have played a more significant role in Forbidden West's story - which it doesn't (I don't think anything relating to that DLC's questlines/story was even hinted at in FW). Why would it be any different with Burning Shores in the next Horizon game?
this was honestly kind of a buzzkill moment for me. I liked having an aloof Aloy who wasn't all that warm or interested in developing any kind of relationship honestly. just about every male character involved in her life tried to make advances on her and she put them off. the ladies I saw as just being friendly mostly (guess I was wrong on that point.) overall though, I was kind of wanting a game that didn't insinuate romance into the plot but burning shores kind of went overboard with that which kind of killed the game for me.
I'm choosing to see Burning Shores as pointless filler rather than something that directly affects the core story (like how Frozen Wilds had no effect of Forbidden West's story).
@madamefluffy4788 the only reference to frozen wilds was a dialog between Gaia and Aloy discussing Cyan (the AI found in that dlc.) Given that I'd say burning shores is likely to be considered Canon in the same fashion.
@@Things_I_wish_I_knew The point is, even with the mention of Cyan, it has no real effect on Forbidden West's plot itself. The same would be the case with Burning Shores (a passing mention of the major plot point - in this case, either the Zenith or the Horus), but that would be it. I'd be genuinely surprised if Seyka appears at any point in the third game.
@madamefluffy4788 that's a pretty fair assessment. It's an awesome game universe imo and it sounds like we are going to get both a 3rd installment of the game and a multiplayer/co-op title set in that universe. It will be interesting to see given the cliff hangers had with the end of this one but might be a few more years yet before anything comes of it.
@@woytahr8463 the only man she tolerated was the man who raised her. Any other dude she just tolerates until she’s done with them. She’s much friendlier with the female characters in the game by a mile
@@gamerkrish7182 She doesn't reject Avad, though. There is an option where she can agree to return to him after her mission is done (how she reacts to some of his replies to her questions has her looking like a shy young woman talking to a guy she likes - you seriously can't deny that exists). She flirted with Varl in Zero Dawn (but that fell through after he hooked up with Zo. She was visibly affected by their attraction to one another and looked hurt she she caught them kissing), she's warm with Erend (he's the only guy I can recall who embraces her; and she welcomes it), she and Kotallo have potential to be something as they have mutual respect for one another (her taunting him at the Bulwark came off as vaguely flirty and Kotallo asking her to help him test his new arm/destroy a machine that was threatening his home seemed to be a big deal to him - which Aloy acknowledged, and thanking him for the honor). Alva would be an okay choice for a female romance option if it wasn't for the fact that 1) Alva already has a girlfriend and 2) she's too into the whole living ancestor thing; which puts Aloy on a pedestal that Aloy wouldn't be comfortable with, given her dislike of others referring to her as anything but Aloy.
@@PANZCAKE No they arent - the game is not as amazing and grand as people are making them out to be especially when Aloy's being treated like the female protaganist in gaming has apparently never existed since the 80's..
@@PANZCAKE Not really, considering the DLC comes off as a poorly written self insert fanfic based off of the third act of Forbidden West; just with a lesbian romance randomly thrown in.
Actually, players are mostly male and they identify with the character. So if the character love interest is a male, they would feel gay. Making the female character a lesbian allows to have a female love interest while playing a woman. Problem solved !
I wouldn't say confirmed, as this is optional, howeverrrr this IS the only romance option in the game. feels like it comes outta nowhere though
I agree but the option shouldn't be there in the first place if she was straight
those two should just go and shakalaka boom boom like there is no tomorrow
🤣
Nah, its innocent puppy love right now
Looks like that obligatory box was checked.
They really messed up on her face model.
The real life face model is way better looking than the in game one
No se si se haya confirmado su preferencia, pero lo encontre muy bueno. Es la heroina que va por pueblo rompiendo corazones, como en su tiempo lo fue Indiana Jones.
Seyka me parecio lo mas cercano a un querer de Aloy, algo super natural considerando la hostoria de cada una.
Muy buen juego 😊
i still consider her straight cause the choice is optional
I personally lean towards Aloy being straight (there is far more evidence in both Zero Dawn and Forbidden West that show Aloy is into guys rather than girls - which is what makes the DLC very strange, considering her romantic interest in Seyka comes literally out of nowhere); however, even if she were to be interested in women, I'd see her as bi rather than strictly lesbian.
@@madamefluffy4788 i guess that kiss was because of them making the dlc in the pride month or something and as far as i know they really support lgbtq
@@amirrezaafzalinia1556 Nothing wrong with supporting LGBTQ+; I'm just not a fan of Aloy being OOC (when compared to the previous installments of the same game) and this optional romance feeling incredibly forced.
No lie - the plot and Seyka's overall design ( Why is she dressed like a butterfly?! She doesn't even look like she belongs in this universe with how excessively pretty she is) makes me think of a poorly written self insert fanfic that is just a cheap re-write of Forbidden West's third act.
seyka: 1
avad: 0
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Can you really say it's confirmed when it's entirely up to the player if she kisses Seyka or turns her down?
In all honesty, given that for the last two games, Aloy has been so focused on saving humanity from looming threats that she hasn't had any real time to learn how to properly socialize, let alone start a relationship with companions she's spend more time with/knows better; to have her suddenly hook up with a random Quen lady she barely knows feels incredibly rushed/forced.
I absolutely agree but as the option is still there, we cannot rule out possibility of a latent intent
@@gamerkrish7182 The same can be said for Aloy's interaction with Avad (she has an option where she says she wants to return to Meridian - and Avad - when her mission is complete); I think there's even a romantic option for Erend. Even her body language when it comes to certain moments in game implies she's into guys (shyly smiling/fidgeting when talking with Avad, visibly torn when she notices the attraction between Varl and Zo, or how she allows Erend to embrace her). Even in Zero Dawn. Aloy doesn't seem to be at all respective to women flirting with her.
But folks dismiss all those options/interactions by claiming Burning Shores confirms Aloy is a lesbian, despite the fact that the choice to kiss Seyka is an option, and Aloy's attraction to her comes literally out of nowhere - given everything we've seen of Aloy in the two previous games.
Aloys crush was literally documented every time they interacted? not sure where the " it came from nowhere" comment came from, did you pay attention to the small details of both of them constantly complimenting each other, the touches, the concern for each other if they got hurt or are scared/unsure? Aloy doesn't display that behavior any other time especially not with another man. Your mistaking her fidgeting and glancing away as being interested when its her being uncomfortable with a male character.. When Aloy is with Erend in the beginning HE is interested in HER but its not reciprocated. Don't forget that burning shores was a DLC that came out a year after Forbidden West and 6 years after Zero Dawn. Unfortunately in 2017 acceptance of LGBTQ characters WASN'T a thing. Guerilla clearly changed with the times and allowed their character to fall under that category. Aloy was always aloof when in came to romance in the first and second game and only "came out" during the DLC. Even if you turn Seyka down If you go to Varls grave every single choice that can be made she says something along the lines of how she isn't ready for a relationship with Seyka but "maybe one day". You don't say something like that if you're straight. there are zero real concrete situations that I saw that told me that she was into a man. Also, the biggest factor is, Elisebet was Lesbian, Aloy is her clone.
😂 Tell me of any time in either game where Aloy looked at a dude with heart eyes like she does to Seyka many many times
and your comment about being jealous of Zo in regards to Varl is just wrong. Aloy noticed that Varl and Zo kissed, or were into each other, nothing more. This is the same mindset about Ellie from The Last of Us, that's like saying That Ellie and Henry where into each other 😆 Also just like how people were surprised that Ellie is also Gay.
@@senpairaijin7079 For the last two and a half games prior to Burning Shores, Aloy was distant/struggled with making connections with those around her. To suddenly have her become a flirting machine with a random Quen woman she comes across is very OOC for her.
Also - about Elisabet. 1) there is no proof that Elisabet was actually a lesbian. The only evidence there is to support that is Tilda's word, and we learn as the game progresses that she's not to be trusted. Evem that audio clip that Aloy comes across doesn't confirm anything as the exchange is just Tilda convincing Elisabet into giving the Zenith's a copy of Apollo. There is no warmth in that exchange - even in her last uttered words, Elisabet sounds more tired than sad.
And even if Elisabet was a lesbian, being her clone does not mean Aloy herself would be a lesbian, as that would imply sexual preference is encoded in ones genes rather than being something someone figures out as they grow/engage with others.
The romance with the girl is optional. Personally, i'd rather that alloy was bi.
But didnt played the dlc so i dont really have any opinion about seyka.
She's just an emotionally underdeveloped teen with childhood abuse, no childhood friends. Plus she is attracted to Avad. Plus she practically eliminates Seyka in all three dialogue options.
Lmao even in her nicest dialogue with avad she actively is looking for a way out with him. Avad is attracted to her but she has friend zoned him at best
@@jordanweinberg4579 Then watch it again. She's not evading Avad because blushing all the time, plus that "and you" and "what comes after"… She's evading the emotional distraction. ruclips.net/video/QeJ_2VV2Z24/видео.html
@merion297 she fumbles all over seyka through half of their interactions and the best she can give Avad is that she hopes to see him again someday. There is nothing even remotely flirtatious on her end with Avad. I'm also confused how she's too emotionally underdeveloped for Seyka but not Avad?
@@jordanweinberg4579 Yes, because they have no such emotional connection through their common adventure with Avad, as she had with Seyka. The entire story of DLC is about showing this as it gets built up between them and in Aloy's emotions.
You still think about her as an adult. She's not an adult, emotionally. She's a teen, like a 12-yo girl today the first deep emotion of whom is experienced with another girl.
Nah that's some bullcrap bruh hell nah
I donno. It feels this was done just to check off diversity and inclusion checkbox in the expansion. Just like they did Ellie in Last of us. Turned her lesbian in the DLC.
Aloy seemed abit jealous when Varl hooked up with Zo. It was clear as day. So I dont buy the lesbian thing with Aloy. Also Aloy didnt protest when Avad told her to comeback after she is done with her mission and that he will be waiting. She seem to have a positive reaction.
I think this has to do more with generic female psychology. It's similar to how HR rejects a job seeker by saying "We'll get back to you" but they never respond later on. In Horizon 3 we can only expect Aloy to get more intimate with Seyka even though it's hard to believe.
@@gamerkrish7182 I guess. Personally I think they should have added more romance options from the start and allowed the player more freedom to choose. Would have been much morr organic in my opinion. This Seyka relationship/kiss felt way too artificial and very little time to develop.
@@gamerkrish7182 keep dreaming the most it will be just like this is just an option as to who she choses with the canon choice being whoever the player chose
@@gamerkrish7182 Doubtful.
If a DLC had any effect on the plot of a game, then the events in Frozen Wilds (Zero Dawn's DLC) would have played a more significant role in Forbidden West's story - which it doesn't (I don't think anything relating to that DLC's questlines/story was even hinted at in FW). Why would it be any different with Burning Shores in the next Horizon game?
@@SovietBelka yes, there's no way to connect the dots otherwise the RPG element is too lame.
this was honestly kind of a buzzkill moment for me. I liked having an aloof Aloy who wasn't all that warm or interested in developing any kind of relationship honestly. just about every male character involved in her life tried to make advances on her and she put them off. the ladies I saw as just being friendly mostly (guess I was wrong on that point.)
overall though, I was kind of wanting a game that didn't insinuate romance into the plot but burning shores kind of went overboard with that which kind of killed the game for me.
I'm choosing to see Burning Shores as pointless filler rather than something that directly affects the core story (like how Frozen Wilds had no effect of Forbidden West's story).
@madamefluffy4788 the only reference to frozen wilds was a dialog between Gaia and Aloy discussing Cyan (the AI found in that dlc.)
Given that I'd say burning shores is likely to be considered Canon in the same fashion.
@@Things_I_wish_I_knew The point is, even with the mention of Cyan, it has no real effect on Forbidden West's plot itself.
The same would be the case with Burning Shores (a passing mention of the major plot point - in this case, either the Zenith or the Horus), but that would be it. I'd be genuinely surprised if Seyka appears at any point in the third game.
@madamefluffy4788 that's a pretty fair assessment.
It's an awesome game universe imo and it sounds like we are going to get both a 3rd installment of the game and a multiplayer/co-op title set in that universe.
It will be interesting to see given the cliff hangers had with the end of this one but might be a few more years yet before anything comes of it.
Big shocker there. She treats every dude she meets like they are a nuisance and only to be tolerated to get what she wants
I really don't feel that way after playing the games.
@@woytahr8463 the only man she tolerated was the man who raised her. Any other dude she just tolerates until she’s done with them. She’s much friendlier with the female characters in the game by a mile
@@SAHtoshiDude I second that. She outright rejected romantic intentions for characters like Avad, Kotallo, Varl but not Alva.
@@gamerkrish7182 She doesn't reject Avad, though. There is an option where she can agree to return to him after her mission is done (how she reacts to some of his replies to her questions has her looking like a shy young woman talking to a guy she likes - you seriously can't deny that exists).
She flirted with Varl in Zero Dawn (but that fell through after he hooked up with Zo. She was visibly affected by their attraction to one another and looked hurt she she caught them kissing), she's warm with Erend (he's the only guy I can recall who embraces her; and she welcomes it), she and Kotallo have potential to be something as they have mutual respect for one another (her taunting him at the Bulwark came off as vaguely flirty and Kotallo asking her to help him test his new arm/destroy a machine that was threatening his home seemed to be a big deal to him - which Aloy acknowledged, and thanking him for the honor).
Alva would be an okay choice for a female romance option if it wasn't for the fact that 1) Alva already has a girlfriend and 2) she's too into the whole living ancestor thing; which puts Aloy on a pedestal that Aloy wouldn't be comfortable with, given her dislike of others referring to her as anything but Aloy.
Guerrilla must have the best motion capture system in the world.
Great! Now I know I'm not buying this game.
shame, you're missing out
@@PANZCAKE No they arent - the game is not as amazing and grand as people are making them out to be
especially when Aloy's being treated like the female protaganist in gaming has apparently never existed since the 80's..
@@Cruddy129 I literally own the game, story may be mid, but its a beautiful game and worth the money. it is the definition of current gen
@@PANZCAKE Not really, considering the DLC comes off as a poorly written self insert fanfic based off of the third act of Forbidden West; just with a lesbian romance randomly thrown in.
@user-ux7rw8fs3d The RPG element is not good. However, that's only a dent in the greatness of this game.
Actually, players are mostly male and they identify with the character. So if the character love interest is a male, they would feel gay. Making the female character a lesbian allows to have a female love interest while playing a woman.
Problem solved !