She is so talented ... and smiling - her videos are a gift for everyone who likes Chopin's music. According to Chopin himself, this étude depicts the soul of his betrothed, Maria Wodzinska, and not a swarm of bees.
I'm in love with this piano sound. It sounds in a certain way old and from another time. Great! Not to mention your musical and technical niveau. Thanks for sharing this with us!!!
i love how people continue doubting lisitsa's tempo, when she CLEARLY informed people three times that the tempo marking is presto, as is Op. 10 No. 4.
And if someone came along who could play it twice as fast again would it be twice as good to listen to? With increasing speed their comes a point at which the music disappears. To me, perhaps not to others, but to me this performance is in places on the edge of disappearing.
i literally didnt want to play this song for my amus because i saw this and didn't think I could ever play that fast, but after a few months and a FANTASTIC teacher I could do this!! PHEW!! just have to not screw up in the exam
According to Harold Schonberg, Liszt could play the right hand of this piece in octaves at speed. Without breaking a sweat. He must have possessed incredible technique.
Valentina, we LOVE you playing. My son always try to listen to your recordings and compare his sound and touch with yours! I wish you could conduct Master Classes in US :-)
Rhinosaur nah, the difficult part is the polyrhythms... for each 2 notes played in rh, lh plays one note, but there is emphasis on every third note in the right hand.
Amazing, I'm learning to play this one, and yes to those of you who think this is too fast - it's not to fast, it's just right. If you want fast, listen to Pollini play this song ;)
@@bennywang5752 Speed & Accuracy can be learned by anyone, even a child, with practice. It takes maturity, understanding, and genuine effort to come to understand and properly play the music with the correct expression.
Though this Étude may be depicting the soul of Chopin's betrothed Mario Wodzinska, the fact that it's sometimes called "The Bees" is not a surprise. I never knew about its nickname until now and before now I was always reminded of bees when listening to this. This Étude reminded me of Rimsky Korsakov's "The Flight Of The Bumblebee" and still does. Valentina, you play this Étude very well! :)
ohh, okeyy...i was just asking because i'm working on chopin lately and the speed of this etude attracted me....thanks for the clarification...ur the best!
@Chopianist3 If your being serious then the answer (for me) lies in practicing the piece with two metranome settings, one for the right hand and one for the left, practiced seperately and then together using the different MM speeds.
you know what my favorite etude of op 25 its no 7. the melodie is just beautifull, and the dipness withing it is almost unatural. Valentina lisitsa and maurizio pollini have the best versions
@liszt85 When I started learning this, I practiced playing small snippets fast, even just half a bar at times, pretty soon you get the feel of it, and it comes. Good luck!
this etude should be played as fast ? ( just asking I used to play it but really really slower thx for answering .) All your videos are amazing you play so well can't find words for describe how you make us feel. thx for all that great music you made keep going it's amazing.
I wonder why Chopin marked only a few of his pieces with Presto. Pretty much all of the fast ones Chopin gave a ridiculously fast metronome marking. Btw, don't take any of my comments too too badly, You play wonderfully, some of the best Chopin playing I have ever heard. the critique is more of a mental excercise, a test of my musical understanding than a real critique.
@roturner I agree with you. The sheet music may say one thing, "Presto" as a tempo marking in this case. Yet, what would then be the point of all these pianists and artists and their interpretations and creations of music if they all strived for the same, original thought that Chopin had?
Personally I do not know this etude any slower. It is (as V notes) marked presto and it is a study for precision and speed in the right hand playing lots of notes close together. What VL dioes wonderfully is control it even at that tempo. It is fast, but doesn't sound rushed to my ears. That is the trick.
*For everyone who's learning this and your hands hurt or get tired after a while:* You're tensing up. Try playing slower (waaaay slower) and make sure you relax your hands and arms all the way to the shoulders. You can shake your hand after each note, or just be really aware. Good luck!
@mcrettable this song is by Chopin and i don't think Liszt was even alive at the time.This was on of his latest songs at the time. And I just can't belive that i have to play this.I'm only 10.And i'm scared.i have to play this at a recital in June.JUNE!!!.
I've listened to this video now a few times. As a professionel organbuilder and audio engineer I think that the piano is deliberately (is this the right word?) not 100% in tune (in each key itself), which makes the sound a little bit more "wide" and soft. It is hard to tell because of the minor quality on youtube. I love this sound, and when I have to buy a grand piano in the future, I will have a closer look at Bösendorfer.
@AmShagar in sheet music, most of the times it says what tempo it should be played, so with your metronome, you can find it out exaactly! I thought this one was 120 for the half note, so 6 notes of the right hand.
@ValentinaLisitsa You're right if a song says "Presto" (which, for any others who may not know what that means, means basically as fast as possible) you should PLAY it Presto! Although in PianoPhase345's defense, it did sound like you were playing it Prestissimo! Wow! AnAmericanComposer {{{EVN07}}}
@mpzstudio ah, but you see, not all music tries to communicate a message, some music is just to mimic a situation or paint a picture. So, yes chopin's Op 25 no 2 should be played fast because its not a piece that speaks about bees, its a piece that expresses their nature (blindingly fast and erratic!). I don't see how this piece will remind anyone of a swarm of bees if its played at any speed lower than this.
songs like this are very simple to do. All you have to do is nail down your scales and be able to do it at a slow pace. Then you just make it faster and bam
Anyway, its a Chopin ETUDE, and its marked "Presto". She's playing it @ the average speed it should be played.. don't get me wrong, she chould play it even faster if she wanted to.
I came to think of "Fantasie Impromptu", when I heard/saw you playing this etude a week ago; it has been one of my favourites since childhood 60 years ago. Have you done that one too on RUclips?
I would say that playing faster is harder because of the technical skill that is needed to play at such a speed. However, I think playing slower is more difficult because it is harder to connect the different parts of the piece as a whole. It's harder to get that flow and that "connected" feeling. Even if you have your technique down, it doesn't mean that musical expression or emotion is automatically there. It's something I think that you already have and cannot learn. Loool just my opinion ^^^^^
@mpzstudio Music critics always try to make it appear as though speed has no place in music. The piece is meant to move fast. Pardon me if my mind does not think "slow and moderate" when playing a piece to mimic the antics of bees.
Good phrase-"bumble bee style". I doubt if it sounds good at my speed-0 miles per hour,possibly because I don't know it. I think my real problem with this pianist is lack of dynamics and a tendency to sound somewhat robotic.
Wow she plays so fast and so clearly, amazing
She is so talented ... and smiling - her videos are a gift for everyone who likes Chopin's music.
According to Chopin himself, this étude depicts the soul of his betrothed, Maria Wodzinska, and not a swarm of bees.
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I do exactly the same thing with my left hand there
Guilherme Schmidt same as me👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿👏
TanTDM racist
Guilherme Schmidt wow
Why do you do it? It like helps keep the rythm or?
@@tomasjosefpiano8902 Going with the flow
I'm in love with this piano sound. It sounds in a certain way old and from another time. Great! Not to mention your musical and technical niveau. Thanks for sharing this with us!!!
i love how people continue doubting lisitsa's tempo, when she CLEARLY informed people three times that the tempo marking is presto, as is Op. 10 No. 4.
And if someone came along who could play it twice as fast again would it be twice as good to listen to? With increasing speed their comes a point at which the music disappears. To me, perhaps not to others, but to me this performance is in places on the edge of disappearing.
i literally didnt want to play this song for my amus because i saw this and didn't think I could ever play that fast, but after a few months and a FANTASTIC teacher I could do this!! PHEW!! just have to not screw up in the exam
Dazom same
Dazom I can't pracitice this more than 15 minutes it hurts so much xd
Can Hacıoğlu same + the exams are tomorrow 😦😧😱😨😩😥
How did the exam went?
Agamaz same, whenever I play this etude after a while my hands get so tired :(
Полный восторг! Потрясающе!
According to Harold Schonberg, Liszt could play the right hand of this piece in octaves at speed. Without breaking a sweat. He must have possessed incredible technique.
O:
Rico G I think thats probably humanly impossible 😂
@@kilemontgomery4456 id agree with that lol.
Okami Senpai he’s also the guy who composed la campanella so he probably just has massive mitts
@@kilemontgomery4456 Now watch this ruclips.net/video/PRB_nFdDDgE/видео.html
Valentina, we LOVE you playing. My son always try to listen to your recordings and compare his sound and touch with yours! I wish you could conduct Master Classes in US :-)
its funny becuase this is chopin's 'easier' etudes
Queveen Ezekiel none of them qualify as easy
@@randykern1842 This etude does. Just simple sequences.
this etude is very easy, it just sounds very difficult
Rhinosaur nah, the difficult part is the polyrhythms... for each 2 notes played in rh, lh plays one note, but there is emphasis on every third note in the right hand.
Allen Wang ruclips.net/video/VgQtdhUH3qo/видео.html
Valentina mi piaci sempre di più.
Sei molto molto brava.
COMPLIMENTI.
Amazing, I'm learning to play this one, and yes to those of you who think this is too fast - it's not to fast, it's just right. If you want fast, listen to Pollini play this song ;)
Awesome! Your playing is like magic. Thanks.🎶🎶
Absolutely incredible. 👏
Incrível !! Parece que está a acariciar as teclas !
Um estudo deslumbrante !
You really are a paragon of effortless virtuosity. If anyone asked about great efficient piano technique, I would point them to your videos.
Superbe vidéo! C'est très impressionnant !
Класс!
вспомнилось:
"-ну.... это и я так могу....
- а что сыграть то ?
- мурку !"
Learning this now and it’s a lot easier than I thought. Of course bringing it up to tempo once it’s memorized will be the ultimate challenge!!
gorgeous playing by a gorgeous lady
absolutely beautiful. your fingers are so blithe and smooth on the piano
The start is 00:00. This might come in handy when restarting.😝
That was breath taking, I really like this piece.
Essa pianista é simplesmente fantástica!!!!!
So clean and even..."a string of pearls". And you are well within your artistic rights to play this without pedal so as to emphasize these virtues.
Cute piano
Just by listening to this I can tell: this is exactly how fast it should be played! Great!
Amazed by Flight of bumblebee? You must never know anything about Chopin
Augusta Verbian flight of bumblebee seems much harder than most chopin to me
@@bennywang5752 lollll you're kidding. for flight of the bumblebee all you need is speed and accuracy, expression isn't even necessary
@@2muchz "ONLY speed & accuracy"
Bolei Wang yeah speed and accuracy basic skill
(Sarcasm just in case)
@@bennywang5752 Speed & Accuracy can be learned by anyone, even a child, with practice. It takes maturity, understanding, and genuine effort to come to understand and properly play the music with the correct expression.
Though this Étude may be depicting the soul of Chopin's betrothed Mario Wodzinska, the fact that it's sometimes called "The Bees" is not a surprise. I never knew about its nickname until now and before now I was always reminded of bees when listening to this. This Étude reminded me of Rimsky Korsakov's "The Flight Of The Bumblebee" and still does. Valentina, you play this Étude very well! :)
Woohoo !!! Speedy bees
ohh, okeyy...i was just asking because i'm working on chopin lately and the speed of this etude attracted me....thanks for the clarification...ur the best!
I love your way to play the piano. you are best and beautiful
I like her piano.
@ValentinaLisitsa You play it excellently. The presto tempo gives it just enough lightness it needs! Regards!
Valentina Lisitsa i'm really very happy for hear ur playing ..you are very beautiful!! Thnak you for this videos .I hope u are ok for ever;)) Obeid.
Practice makes perfect.. Insane!
Pure perfection.
What a tempo! I've played this but a bit slowly!
❤
bravo！！I like your performance！！
@Chopianist3
If your being serious then the answer (for me) lies in practicing the piece with two metranome settings, one for the right hand and one for the left, practiced seperately and then together using the different MM speeds.
you know what my favorite etude of op 25 its no 7. the melodie is just beautifull, and the dipness withing it is almost unatural. Valentina lisitsa and maurizio pollini have the best versions
Very inspirational.
@liszt85 When I started learning this, I practiced playing small snippets fast, even just half a bar at times, pretty soon you get the feel of it, and it comes. Good luck!
I love the speed! :)
this etude should be played as fast ? ( just asking I used to play it but really really slower thx for answering .) All your videos are amazing you play so well can't find words for describe how you make us feel. thx for all that great music you made keep going it's amazing.
fav etude of opus 25.
Woah this is pretty good ...
wow!!!
EXCELENT really super kiki^^
Perfect..
beautiful...
man!!! she makes it look so easy :S
I wonder why Chopin marked only a few of his pieces with Presto. Pretty much all of the fast ones Chopin gave a ridiculously fast metronome marking.
Btw, don't take any of my comments too too badly, You play wonderfully, some of the best Chopin playing I have ever heard. the critique is more of a mental excercise, a test of my musical understanding than a real critique.
such insanely good technique...could do with more dynamic variation in right hand, but that is extremely difficult with fast notes
WOW, amazing
i can lay this fast but not with this much intonation
BRAVO
@ValentinaLisitsa excellent... but why are your tags Richter, Wilhelm, Pollini, Backhaus and Ashkenazy if I may ask?
Wonderful. It is very fast, but is actually the correct tempo.
I am from Russian.
Супер, а не игра!
Great Job!
Street cred, bro. Rough streets of the solo world out there.
Awesome,🎶🎶
To play fast is mo re difficult than slow, so that gives her extra points.
우와~ 짱 잘한다!!^^
Вот именно эту музыку Шарапов первый раз играл в банде на пианино! Наконец-то я нашел ее!!
вася васильев " Это и я могу!" А что сыграть то? Мурку!
@roturner I agree with you. The sheet music may say one thing, "Presto" as a tempo marking in this case. Yet, what would then be the point of all these pianists and artists and their interpretations and creations of music if they all strived for the same, original thought that Chopin had?
It’s so smoothe it almost sounds syncopated
Personally I do not know this etude any slower. It is (as V notes) marked presto and it is a study for precision and speed in the right hand playing lots of notes close together. What VL dioes wonderfully is control it even at that tempo. It is fast, but doesn't sound rushed to my ears. That is the trick.
*For everyone who's learning this and your hands hurt or get tired after a while:*
You're tensing up. Try playing slower (waaaay slower) and make sure you relax your hands and arms all the way to the shoulders. You can shake your hand after each note, or just be really aware.
Good luck!
@mcrettable this song is by Chopin and i don't think Liszt was even alive at the time.This was on of his latest songs at the time.
And I just can't belive that i have to play this.I'm only 10.And i'm scared.i have to play this at a recital in June.JUNE!!!.
."... If it "speaks" to you then it is *perfect* at this speed" - that's profound and it is true.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Amazing =O
@harutuniananna The easiest way to learn this, is practicing every day a lot of technique, lots and lots :)
I've listened to this video now a few times. As a professionel organbuilder and audio engineer I think that the piano is deliberately (is this the right word?) not 100% in tune (in each key itself), which makes the sound a little bit more "wide" and soft. It is hard to tell because of the minor quality on youtube. I love this sound, and when I have to buy a grand piano in the future, I will have a closer look at Bösendorfer.
Of course you do.
great gob!!!! 😄
😀😀
i wish i could play that well
@AmShagar in sheet music, most of the times it says what tempo it should be played, so with your metronome, you can find it out exaactly! I thought this one was 120 for the half note, so 6 notes of the right hand.
I'm inclined to agree (12th is best), although the 11th is very good as well. Would depend on what mood, or drug I was on.
can you believe Franz Liszt played this in octaves!!!!!!!! Franz Liszt is incredible
Jonathan Zanzuri Who told you that?
Can you send the link/video to me please?
Lang Lang played this with 5
バレンティーナさんこの曲俺大好き❤️
@thisisbrianful
That is correct!
I agree... I prefer it a bit more slowly... !!!
@ValentinaLisitsa You're right if a song says "Presto" (which, for any others who may not know what that means, means basically as fast as possible) you should PLAY it Presto! Although in PianoPhase345's defense, it did sound like you were playing it Prestissimo! Wow!
AnAmericanComposer
{{{EVN07}}}
It means very fast at least that what I was taught in my conservatory
@@DanyDoublebass In Italian, presto means fast. Prestissimo means very fast.
@@mpianod9319 I know
Perfect :)
@mpzstudio ah, but you see, not all music tries to communicate a message, some music is just to mimic a situation or paint a picture. So, yes chopin's Op 25 no 2 should be played fast because its not a piece that speaks about bees, its a piece that expresses their nature (blindingly fast and erratic!). I don't see how this piece will remind anyone of a swarm of bees if its played at any speed lower than this.
songs like this are very simple to do. All you have to do is nail down your scales and be able to do it at a slow pace. Then you just make it faster and bam
Yea =]
@ValentinaLisitsa
I agree entirely. This is alla breve, and presto. You'd be hard pressed to play it too fast.
Anyway, its a Chopin ETUDE, and its marked "Presto". She's playing it @ the average speed it should be played.. don't get me wrong, she chould play it even faster if she wanted to.
Sympathetic!
I came to think of "Fantasie Impromptu", when I heard/saw you playing this etude a week ago;
it has been one of my favourites since childhood 60 years ago.
Have you done that one too on RUclips?
Thanx
I would say that playing faster is harder because of the technical skill that is needed to play at such a speed.
However, I think playing slower is more difficult because it is harder to connect the different parts of the piece as a whole. It's harder to get that flow and that "connected" feeling.
Even if you have your technique down, it doesn't mean that musical expression or emotion is automatically there. It's something I think that you already have and cannot learn.
Loool just my opinion ^^^^^
You just said two completely opposite things. I don't get it. What is the difference between 'harder' and 'more difficult'?
Raherin oops! let me rephrase myself: "I would say that playing faster is *difficult*..."
Ah okay, thanks for the clarification. :]
Wow
Um.... no.
@mpzstudio Music critics always try to make it appear as though speed has no place in music. The piece is meant to move fast. Pardon me if my mind does not think "slow and moderate" when playing a piece to mimic the antics of bees.
It's not supposed to sound like the flight of the bumble bee.
true, but this etude sounds excelent in bumble bee style and in normal tempo too
Good phrase-"bumble bee style". I doubt if it sounds good at my speed-0 miles per hour,possibly because I don't know it. I think my real problem with this pianist is lack of dynamics and a tendency to sound somewhat robotic.
naturalroyalflush lisitsa sounds robotic?????
Well it is called bees, soo
King Pliar ironically chopin wrote this piece to his girlfriend so I have no idea who gave the weird nickname bees lmao
I am learning this........... It is easy, just practice...................
however I can't properly do the dynamics...........
If Fantasie-Impromptu and Wrong Note Etude had a child, it's be this song.
What fingering do you use to allow you to play with such fluidity?
Adam Cohen
I guess she could play it witg three fingers and still perform very fluid... xD
Those bees are super fast