I probably wouldn't have understood this before my dad died, but now that he's gone I have his glasses and his favorite shirt and they mean a lot to me.
As an urban Indian who's constantly learning about my culture, this is new to me! Not the war club itself, but that there was a "cottage industry" for war clubs, and that they could have more ornamental and "loose" forms. I've seen replica/modern day remakes of historical war clubs but they are all made to look like/be FUNCTIONAL war clubs with a set or repeated style/form. This one is so unique in that the bark was left intact, enough to identify even the tree is was made from, and that the root sections that spread our were left intact instead of being removed to make a smoother, rounded piece. The lizard/salamander/creature is a great touch as well. All of this rough/rustic work alongside the delicate floral shapes just makes it that much more unique to me. Yaw^ko for sharing!
The headline had me thinking it was a group of guys who got together to carve roots. “Gentlemen, the 88th session of the Penobscot Carved Root Club is now in order. Produce your roots, begin carving.”
@@dingdongdaddy589 I can only imagine you asking the original commenterer to prove it...and before he can say it I will....sir what you ya have just demonstrated by asking prove it is what we non dense folks would say as WHOOOOSH!!
When I saw the thumbnail I expected a big ticket item. Two grand is nothing to sneeze at, but I’ve seen less of a reaction for a lot higher of an appraisal. The value made him happy, but it’s the sentimental value here that’s worth something. It’s priceless ❤
@@Skinnamarink. Based on the guy's reaction/reverance, not at all. My great aunt had all sorts of valuables she kept safe on display in shelves cause she was married to an archaelogist.
@@maskcollector6949 I had an archeologist neighbor growing up. He and his wife had no kids, but treated my sister and I like family. They were the same way!
I understand this guest completely. When my father, a widower, died, there was kind of an unavoidable rush for me, the only child, to close everything up, dispose of his and my mother's belongings. My most treasured possessions today (along with thousands of family photographs) are what most people would consider to be stupid stuff to keep. But we didn't have anything of great value, so I treasure my father's vests, which I still wear, a few of my mother's crocheted tablecloths and things like scissors, a stapler, some cheap flatware and utensils, things they held in their hands every day and which I saw them use 40, 50, 60 years ago. By holding on to these things and using them myself, my parents are never very far from me.
The gentelman is more emotional about his item valued at $2K than the two women, one with the large Tiffany shade and the other with the huge charger dish, both valued at over $100K. I'm happy he was able to find out more about his meaningful posession.
People react differently. You want everyone to show outward emotion and that's not how humans works. Some are in shock and are processing what they've been told.
This is such a sweet story, and a beautiful piece! My daughter has an eagle war club that her grampy made her. He’d go to Orson Island for the birch roots. Fun little adventures! Happy to have found this video
I think he did too, I would think that that is why he gave an emotional appeal after the fact to the appraiser... just in case he would change his mind to up the value. Albeit an honest response on his part.
Root clubs where common in many culture, seeing the individual cultural decorations between societies utilitizing root clubs is fascinating. Root clubs are among the several club types used by Eastern woodland folk, from stone lashed with rawhide to a handle to wooden clubs like sabers or ball headed clubs being more popular later on
"this was made deep in the forest" So how do you know this one was made deep in their forest and not as deep in their forest or not more toward the outer reaches of their forest?
He likely would never sell it. But also the appraiser said thousands of these were made and while not necessarily "replicas" they weren't the real deal.
It would be more accurate to say that the Wabanaki group of Tribes inhabited most of Maine and up into Nova Scotia. The Wabanki are made up of the Maliseet, Micmac, Passamaquoddy and Penobscot tribes.
Lovely. When I was at school studying religion we were taught that animism was a brutish and primitive form of thinking. I’ve come to understand after 54 years of living that such beliefs are the real deal. Trees really are us. And vice versa. These people had it right. And we took a wrong turn.
@@Underpantsniper oh I think you misunderstood. Human is your species. I was speaking of your ethnic background. But I understand if you're not comfortable talking about it.
Imagine how meaningful it would if you actually took that club and gave it back to a tribal representative. This guy's getting teary because it sat in room with his mom. I agine the effect this "Artifact" would have being held by a native child learning about his elders. I don't know if this one was night and sold. Could be. Or ya know it could have just been taken too. Who knows. But we do know for sure giving people there history back is a powerful gift.
I'm no expert, but I do know that some native weapons were made and sold as trinkets to trade/sell to non-native people in the 1800's and early 1900's.
I call BS, my dad got one of these as a tourist attraction back in the 1950-60s at a tourist stop on the Ohio turnpike - I know because I have it in my library....................
what a lovely thing to say, that the artisan would be happy his piece was so cherished. Beautiful exchange.
Agreed!
i bet he would be more happy if it wasnt in possession of some white dudes
His sentimental value goes far beyond it's monitary value. Awesome peice. Good on ya. I love antiques roadshow.
You are so right, he didn’t even bat an eyelid when the price was mentioned.
monetary
@@StanleyKubick1 Kubrick
I probably wouldn't have understood this before my dad died, but now that he's gone I have his glasses and his favorite shirt and they mean a lot to me.
As an urban Indian who's constantly learning about my culture, this is new to me! Not the war club itself, but that there was a "cottage industry" for war clubs, and that they could have more ornamental and "loose" forms.
I've seen replica/modern day remakes of historical war clubs but they are all made to look like/be FUNCTIONAL war clubs with a set or repeated style/form.
This one is so unique in that the bark was left intact, enough to identify even the tree is was made from, and that the root sections that spread our were left intact instead of being removed to make a smoother, rounded piece. The lizard/salamander/creature is a great touch as well. All of this rough/rustic work alongside the delicate floral shapes just makes it that much more unique to me. Yaw^ko for sharing!
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There’s no crying in war club !
I tell my beagles, when they are whining for food, there's no crying in NY!
You don't talk about war club.
1st rule of War Club is: No crying.
What a solid Dad joke
The headline had me thinking it was a group of guys who got together to carve roots. “Gentlemen, the 88th session of the Penobscot Carved Root Club is now in order. Produce your roots, begin carving.”
Sorry. Wasn’t aware there would be a callout. I whipped my root out a few minutes ago.
You've got to have a lot of moral fiber to join the Penobscot Carved Root Club.
You deserve many more likes for this comment.
Lol So glad I'm not the only one whose mind goes there! Loved the snippet of dialogue too!👍😉
😂😂😂
LOL.. "This touches me so much"...this was my mother's war club.
You laugh, but does your mother have a war club?
PROVE IT.
@@dingdongdaddy589 I can only imagine you asking the original commenterer to prove it...and before he can say it I will....sir what you ya have just demonstrated by asking prove it is what we non dense folks would say as
WHOOOOSH!!
🤣🤣🤣
Excuse me my good man those are not leaves on trees those are the notches from my mother's war's
I grew up in Maine and loved learning about the ancestry of the native inhabitants. So much history in those woods.
@alec r27 are you scared or easily spooked in life?
@@moisesortega3684 he’s singing the song from Pocahontas
Give it back to them
@@lizardkingwalking 😂
When I saw the thumbnail I expected a big ticket item. Two grand is nothing to sneeze at, but I’ve seen less of a reaction for a lot higher of an appraisal. The value made him happy, but it’s the sentimental value here that’s worth something. It’s priceless ❤
The condition alone shows how much the owner's family respected and valued the piece. It's really awesome to see it survive so well.
kinda sus how good of condition its in, no?
not bad for a piece of crap that's been knocked out in his shed
@@Skinnamarink. Based on the guy's reaction/reverance, not at all. My great aunt had all sorts of valuables she kept safe on display in shelves cause she was married to an archaelogist.
@@Skinnamarink. not even slightly. The family has always valued it. Also, the expert would have seen right away if it were made recently.
@@maskcollector6949 I had an archeologist neighbor growing up. He and his wife had no kids, but treated my sister and I like family. They were the same way!
I understand this guest completely. When my father, a widower, died, there was kind of an unavoidable rush for me, the only child, to close everything up, dispose of his and my mother's belongings. My most treasured possessions today (along with thousands of family photographs) are what most people would consider to be stupid stuff to keep. But we didn't have anything of great value, so I treasure my father's vests, which I still wear, a few of my mother's crocheted tablecloths and things like scissors, a stapler, some cheap flatware and utensils, things they held in their hands every day and which I saw them use 40, 50, 60 years ago. By holding on to these things and using them myself, my parents are never very far from me.
I'm moved by your story. God bless you.
When that immaculate gentleman teared up I was very moved. The artist who made this would be very pleased indeed I think.
The original artist probably wished that Americans didn’t come and commit genocide on their people.
hes crying because he thought it was worth more.
He’d probably be pissed off because it was owned by such a pussy.
😆 🤣 😂
Genocide by another indigenous tribe is apparently acceptable to you but genocide by white Europeans is inexcusable. Got it.
These people are great cultivate stories😮
How cool! I love learning new things.
And there was so much to learn from that appraiser. He certainly knows his field!
That piece is still working medicine
That was special
The gentelman is more emotional about his item valued at $2K than the two women, one with the large Tiffany shade and the other with the huge charger dish, both valued at over $100K. I'm happy he was able to find out more about his meaningful posession.
The lady with the charger dish was clearly overwhelmed & in shock. She said she felt like crying at the end.
People react differently. You want everyone to show outward emotion and that's not how humans works. Some are in shock and are processing what they've been told.
Their appraisals were somewhat expected though
Where he literally just has a very old stick
Not everyone is emotionally broken, like you just love to see.
@@LinkRocks OP is a codependent and wanta to be forever in tithers over people breaking down. It's a modern derangement of 1st world problems.
The way he got sentimental at the end, was sad but also beautiful to see. He is still in touch with his mother's spirit and love.
I think he was just disappointed at the appraisal... he was expecting 2 million...
This is such a sweet story, and a beautiful piece!
My daughter has an eagle war club that her grampy made her. He’d go to Orson Island for the birch roots. Fun little adventures!
Happy to have found this video
I was expecting it to be worth more, what an awesome piece of history.
I think he did too, I would think that that is why he gave an emotional appeal after the fact to the appraiser... just in case he would change his mind to up the value. Albeit an honest response on his part.
@@Mikemikemike13579 Lol not everybody goes on Roadshow for the money.
@@Mikemikemike13579 LOL! He was choked up because of the sentimental value of the piece. Not everyone is out to get rich, slap nuts.
@@maskcollector6949 Exactly. Some just want to know what they have and maybe a little history on it.
$2500 for a piece like that is valuable. Not everything on the show has a six figure price tag on it.
Powerful stuff. Lovely to watch that moment, thanks
Every man needs a good club
Ted: *eloquently and thoroughly explains the cultural and historical significance of the piece*
Me: It's from "The Far Side's" Cow Tools!
Very wholesome to watch.
Me, and mother always watch this show with cool glass of milk.
Best item to ever burst out of a stomach.
Amazing how meaningful objects can be to people.
These two are lovely humans.
Root clubs where common in many culture, seeing the individual cultural decorations between societies utilitizing root clubs is fascinating. Root clubs are among the several club types used by Eastern woodland folk, from stone lashed with rawhide to a handle to wooden clubs like sabers or ball headed clubs being more popular later on
"this was made deep in the forest"
So how do you know this one was made deep in their forest and not as deep in their forest or not more toward the outer reaches of their forest?
I was thinking the same. It could have been just a little shallower than he thought
Exactly! Its just more of their st-pid hyped up drama to make their story sound more appealing. Other sad thing is that it works on a lot of people.
They revered trees. That's why they killed one to make this club.
It could have even been made on the edge of that little meadow just inside the forest, where the daffodils bloom so pretty in spring.
Maine is the most forest-covered State in the country. At the time the club was made nearly 100% of Maine was covered in "deep" forest.
How cool is that! Never saw one before. Very interesting artwork.
the history of this is worth way more than that. I would never let it go.
It was made for trade not for bashing someone's head in.
He likely would never sell it. But also the appraiser said thousands of these were made and while not necessarily "replicas" they weren't the real deal.
Beautiful meaning
I hope he insures it and keeps it in the family. It clearly means a lot to him.
Great thing to say by appraiser. Im sure the craftsman would appreciate how much you like it. Very nice piece to own
This Club is good medicine
What a great response
The appraiser was very knowledgeable and respectful to the first peoples
Cool. I have one, been in the family since the 1800's. They were from Maine, it will be nice to hand it down to my kids.
What a lovely fact right at the end there 🇬🇧
It would be more accurate to say that the Wabanaki group of Tribes inhabited most of Maine and up into Nova Scotia. The Wabanki are made up of the Maliseet, Micmac, Passamaquoddy and Penobscot tribes.
Correct. The Penobscot are in east central Maine, around the Penobscot river valley.
As a Haudenosaunee (Oneida to be precise, lol) I appreciate this information!
It needs returning back to them !!
No Slapahoe?
@@bennym1956 It was purchased. Native tribes all over the US sell things they make.
His reaction is really touching. Almost gave me a lump in my throat
Beautiful piece.
Wtf I thought it was gonna be for like 15 million or something. Thanks a lot pbs and youre welcome for the view
What a load of fresh air..
Museum Piece👌🏽
It's only worth two grand. It's a curio cabinet stuffer at best.
That’s why I love American history as everything is at least a few hundred years old
Touching.
Yall ever see that SpongeBob episode where that one fish has a mother so old she looks like this club 🤣
We all miss our mommas one day or another
Fifteen more days will register seventeen years since mine left this world. It's truly a wound that never heals. Cherish them while they are here.
Lovely.
When I was at school studying religion we were taught that animism was a brutish and primitive form of thinking. I’ve come to understand after 54 years of living that such beliefs are the real deal. Trees really are us. And vice versa. These people had it right. And we took a wrong turn.
Awesome reaction
I'm feeling it buddy. I just st lost my Mom. Its hard to talk without crying
Very much sought after for people that collect this sort of THING.
so, like no one...
So many things have a value that can't be measured by money.
Awesome. Love it.
Awesome staff
That thing is cool!
Seen one almost like this in a private collection in Halifax NS about 20 years ago
This, this is good.
Beautiful artifact / tool
I used to carve stuff like this all the time in the woods of washington when I was a kid
What's your background?
@@sandra-jones human?
@@Underpantsniper oh I think you misunderstood. Human is your species. I was speaking of your ethnic background. But I understand if you're not comfortable talking about it.
@@sandra-jones He was a kid can't you read I am more interested can he snipe my pants from way over there
WHOOOOOSH
"It would be very, very much sought by people who collect this sort of thing..."
-facts
I didn't know they did a show at Grounds for Sculpture! That's awesome!
When did Steven Spielberg become an antique expert?
It's nice to think that the family didn't throw it out when they moved in.
The spirit in that stick gotta be laughing so hard
Why?
I got a lot more out of that video than I thought I would
It has a soul within
Sounds priceless to me
Imagine how meaningful it would if you actually took that club and gave it back to a tribal representative. This guy's getting teary because it sat in room with his mom. I agine the effect this "Artifact" would have being held by a native child learning about his elders. I don't know if this one was night and sold. Could be. Or ya know it could have just been taken too. Who knows. But we do know for sure giving people there history back is a powerful gift.
Most USA citizens believe in private property.
@@thomaswayneward Even if it's stolen property?
@@ancient_gamerr there is no indication that this item was stolen. And no one has asked for it back.
It is pretty cool to think about the connection that the creator now has to modern society
Looks like it was made 20 years go.
Nice love it
Dogs around this guy must go crazy when he talks.
That’s actually funny without being mean 😂
getting in touch with your roots...
Spielberg appraising now?
Almost knocked it over when he said someone took very good care of this
Imagine making that one thing that survives more than a hundred years and inspires an unknown generations imagination. There's your legacy.
Should be worth WAY more
Woooooooooorld staaaaaaaaaaaaaar!!!!!!
The first rule of War Club is?
What’re they selling?
This is awesome. Small correction: there are no lizards in Maine. Except in pet stores, of course.
plenty of salamanders though
@@solsticelacer Yeah, plenty of salamanders. They are amphibians.
Nice club. -I would have went with a linseed oil rubbed finish.
Happy indigenous peoples turkey day.🤌
Turkey is a colonizer word, chief 👎👎👎
50 melee damage
+10%melee resistance
+25%magic resistance
+5%speech skill
I have one similar, but smaller. -I think it's made of pine.
Imagine trying to fight somebody coming at you with that thing.
Penobscot people aren't from Nova Scotia, they're from the Penobscot River. There are no lizards in Maine.
He's not a zoologist. So he's probably not taking pedantic pains to differentiate between reptiles and amphibians. Give it a rest.
@@anahata2009 He's also not an anthropologist. Or maybe even an expert on antiques.
A tourist trinket. We haven't changed at all.
I'm no expert, but I do know that some native weapons were made and sold as trinkets to trade/sell to non-native people in the 1800's and early 1900's.
Is there a bird around, because I hear a lot of whistling in this video
Reminds me of an Irish shillelagh for smacking heads
In the olden early days! 😂
yea, like last week..
That's it!
There must be a lot of these bird head root clubs ..that one doesn't look super old. Usually they are an eagle head
Wow really
Looks like that old woman character from Spongebob in the chocolate episode.
Imagine a fan club for war clubs?
Join the Club Club
I call BS, my dad got one of these as a tourist attraction back in the 1950-60s at a tourist stop on the Ohio turnpike - I know because I have it in my library....................
peak native tech
watch out for wild injins!