Wonderful explanation.. Clearest explanation I've found on the web. Glad you dedicated a specific video to this. Most mention it as a component of a large video and don't give it the attention it needs.. Thanks!
Regarding side mount slides can you deduct an extra 1/32 or 1/16 off the total width. Just to be safe so that the box will not be tight. would the slides still operate properly.
Great example, the test at the end is a great idea. Can i ask in reference to measuring for under mount draw slides, when you say the box depth needs to be the exact length of the draw slide do you mean the overall length of the draw slide or do you mean fron the front of the draw slide to the back of the spud that you need to drill a hole for, or are they the same measurement?
Thanks for the comments! When I refer to the slide length I'm referring to the length of drawer they are designed to be used with. In other words, a set of 21" drawer slides is designed to be used with a 21" deep drawer. A set of 18" deep drawer slides is designed for use with 18" deep drawers. Physically measuring the slides could result in some incorrectly sized drawers because the slides stick out past the spur, as you mentioned. Hopefully that helps! Happy installing! ~Dan
Great but I guess I missed how to determine the length of the side mount slides needed. I think it is the same as the depth measurement. So for a 19” deep drawer they should be 19”. can anyone confirm that? Thank you in advance.
Hi Fred! For side mount drawer slides the exact depth of the drawer is not as critical, although it's good practice to match the drawer depth with the slides so you can maintain "full extension." And with side mount slides, if your clearance is really tight (for example maybe your interior depth is 22-1/4"), you can mount the slides to the side of the cabinet instead of to the back of the cabinet and might be able to squeeze a 22" deep drawer in there. With under mount slides you need about 1" behind the drawer, no matter how you attach the slides to the cabinet, because the slides wrap around the back of the drawer. Also, check with the slide manufacturer about what sizes they offer. Most offer lengths in 2" increments, 22", 20", 18", 16", etc., but some manufacturers have unique sizes. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
Hi Kurt, Great question! In order for the undermount slides to be secured to the drawer properly they need some type of horizontal stabilizer. In cases where the bottom is recessed by 1/2", the drawer sides, which extend 1/2" below the bottom, act as that stabilizer, and the front locking devices help secure the runners to the drawer and hold the runners against the drawer sides. If those stabilizers were missing (flush bottom), I don't believe the front locking devices provide enough lateral stability by themselves. Blum has an example of a 3/4" pull-out shelf that uses undermount runners. In order to provide lateral stability they simply add 1/2" high pieces to the bottom. That's on pg. 24 of my Tandem plus Blumotion spec guide. So the answer is, "yes, you can install UM track on flush bottoms if you add lateral stability." Just be careful about your depth sizing based on where you're putting your front locking devices. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
Hi James, that is correct. Additionally, if you're using undermount slides, you would also need to decide how thick your drawer sides are going to be, which will also affect your overall drawer size (ex. a drawer with 5/8" thick sides will need to be a different overall width than a drawer with 1/2" thick sides, even if you're putting them both in the same size opening and using the exact same UM hardware). Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
Why is that? We have a tiny house and the kitchen drawers have almost 8 inches of empty space behind them, I'm trying to make new drawers to utilize that wasted space and just though the side mounted seemed more beneficial and easier to install.
Wonderful explanation.. Clearest explanation I've found on the web. Glad you dedicated a specific video to this. Most mention it as a component of a large video and don't give it the attention it needs.. Thanks!
Excellent video! Clear, easily understood instructions. Thankyou
This guy told me everything I needed to know in simple terms. Fantastic.
This is a GREAT video. I have never used undermount slides before and you made it easy to figure my sizes. Thank you for making this video.
You guys are the best! I use your product for years now and I have to say, it has always been a pleasure!
Good presentation, thanks. I prefer not using metal drawer slides, but wooden runners instead. Wish you had discussed fitting those options.
Great video, very informative. Im ready to install my first undermount slides and this video cleared up the few questions I had. Thank you very much.
This is the most useful video I watched about (how to make a drawer...) Thanks a lot!!
This clarified the whole slide measurement issue for me, thank you.
Regarding side mount slides can you deduct an extra 1/32 or 1/16 off the total width. Just to be safe so that the box will not be tight. would the slides still operate properly.
Great explanation. Thanks!
Great explanation that was easy to follow.
Great example, the test at the end is a great idea.
Can i ask in reference to measuring for under mount draw slides, when you say the box depth needs to be the exact length of the draw slide do you mean the overall length of the draw slide or do you mean fron the front of the draw slide to the back of the spud that you need to drill a hole for, or are they the same measurement?
Thanks for the comments! When I refer to the slide length I'm referring to the length of drawer they are designed to be used with. In other words, a set of 21" drawer slides is designed to be used with a 21" deep drawer. A set of 18" deep drawer slides is designed for use with 18" deep drawers. Physically measuring the slides could result in some incorrectly sized drawers because the slides stick out past the spur, as you mentioned.
Hopefully that helps! Happy installing!
~Dan
Excellent video. Thanks
Best explanation! Thank you!
Super helpful, thanks! What's the rule for drawer depth with inset drawer front?
Thanks, especially for the quiz.
Awesome video! Thanks!
Great but I guess I missed how to determine the length of the side mount slides needed. I think it is the same as the depth measurement. So for a 19” deep drawer they should be 19”. can anyone confirm that? Thank you in advance.
Hi Fred! For side mount drawer slides the exact depth of the drawer is not as critical, although it's good practice to match the drawer depth with the slides so you can maintain "full extension." And with side mount slides, if your clearance is really tight (for example maybe your interior depth is 22-1/4"), you can mount the slides to the side of the cabinet instead of to the back of the cabinet and might be able to squeeze a 22" deep drawer in there. With under mount slides you need about 1" behind the drawer, no matter how you attach the slides to the cabinet, because the slides wrap around the back of the drawer. Also, check with the slide manufacturer about what sizes they offer. Most offer lengths in 2" increments, 22", 20", 18", 16", etc., but some manufacturers have unique sizes. Hopefully that helps! ~Dan
Can you use the undermount if a drawer has a flush bottom? or does it have to have that 1/2" gap?
Hi Kurt,
Great question! In order for the undermount slides to be secured to the drawer properly they need some type of horizontal stabilizer. In cases where the bottom is recessed by 1/2", the drawer sides, which extend 1/2" below the bottom, act as that stabilizer, and the front locking devices help secure the runners to the drawer and hold the runners against the drawer sides. If those stabilizers were missing (flush bottom), I don't believe the front locking devices provide enough lateral stability by themselves. Blum has an example of a 3/4" pull-out shelf that uses undermount runners. In order to provide lateral stability they simply add 1/2" high pieces to the bottom. That's on pg. 24 of my Tandem plus Blumotion spec guide. So the answer is, "yes, you can install UM track on flush bottoms if you add lateral stability." Just be careful about your depth sizing based on where you're putting your front locking devices. Hopefully that helps!
~Dan
What is the optimal length(max) of the drawer if the Depth of the drawer is 1 ft?
So I cannot make my drawers until I get or figure out what slides I’m using correct ?
Hi James, that is correct. Additionally, if you're using undermount slides, you would also need to decide how thick your drawer sides are going to be, which will also affect your overall drawer size (ex. a drawer with 5/8" thick sides will need to be a different overall width than a drawer with 1/2" thick sides, even if you're putting them both in the same size opening and using the exact same UM hardware). Hopefully that helps!
~Dan
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Now one uses the side mount slides anymore.
Why is that? We have a tiny house and the kitchen drawers have almost 8 inches of empty space behind them, I'm trying to make new drawers to utilize that wasted space and just though the side mounted seemed more beneficial and easier to install.
Make it wooden with the help of the Woodprix instructions.
Woodglut has a very large project base.
your volume of you speaking is to low I can't hear you with my volume on hi.
Yeah I couldn't understand him either, he starts his sentences ok but then swallows the last half every time.
I know you can find solutions to this problem in the woodglut plans.