I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know about that little rope. I’ve watched wrestling for 50 years. But in this match at one point I saw Punk playing with the one in his corner and I thought, “Oh!”
@@joshuaDstarks I still remember during the elite versus dark order and hangman match, Kenny was literally hanging out near the baby face corner for like 3 to 4 minutes. I normally never get bugged by things like that but that one was so egregious that it just blew my mind and really lowered my opinion of Kenny as a wrestler in an already overblown ridiculous match
@@GumshoeStories I have been watching wrestling for 32 years and I always knew about the tag rope but never really knew what it was for until I was older haha. Its really quite obvious too. The length of the tag rope is as far from your corner that you can venture. In WWE it's 18 inches and the reason for that is because in Dallas, Texas there is a rule that the tag rope HAS to be 18 inches. I'm not sure what sporting authority came up with that rule back in the day when wrestling was considered somewhat legit but it has stuck ever since and so because they have to make it 18 inches in Dallas they just use it at 18 inches all the time. I guess i will mention that I watched wrestling for 32 years but don't watch anymore. Its all unwatchable, unbearable, just garbage. NXT was cool and got me back into it but NXT 2.0 ruined that in a hurry.
Yeah, and what the FUCK HAPPENED to only having a 5-count for both partners to be in the ring? It's like there's no fucking rules AT ALL, and it really detracts from how good shit like this is
FTR’s problem is that, they’re so good that they can carry anyone, so they have to put over everyone. They’re like a tag team made up of 2 Dolph Zigglers.
Not that I care one way or the other, but Dolph actually IS considered a really, really good worker by a lot of respected folks. Corny, Arn, JR, Stone Cold, Booker, etc all have referred to Dolph as one of the best workers in today's biz.
Punk somehow picks up a win after getting powerbombed 8 times, and also getting hit by a ring bell. However he gets KTFO long enough after a punch from MJF wearing a ring to lose. So either MJF has Tyson like knockout power in his fist (which has gone under the radar this whole time) or the booking and suspension of disbelief is massively out of whack.
Like how Corny is harder on FTR on anyone else bc he knows how good they are. Like a good ball coach grading his best athletes more strict than the average guys.
Agreed they are slowly improving. With the roster being so loaded going to be hard to get all these people tv time I imagine rampage going to 2 hours sometime this year
@@PIP-zf9yb 2 hour Rampage as well as reassessing who should be getting tv time vs. who should be on the youtube shows. AEW has all the pieces to be great, all Tony Khan needs to do is figure out how to utilize it properly.
@@wwedbzguy the problem is ramage is already in a horseshit timeslot not that they picked that they just took it because it was offered ana available so I'm not sure it will happen but clearly the roster is loaded and 3 hours isn't long enough for building good story's and giving people proper time so I think they will be forced to do am extra hour of rampage eventually
@@GenGamesUniverse agreed. I am with Jim for once though usually his takes are for shock value but his take on Tully not needing to do bumps I agree with he's a fucking senior citizen
Best tag match I’ve seen in a good while. Punk is really getting back into his groove after having some ring rust his first few matches and I’m loving it. He’s still really damn good.
@@williammitchell4417 A major difference would be AEW is following a storyline & Mox had major beef with MJF before & he's worked with Punk before. Now in WWE it's because a PPV is coming up & we've no teams cause either we fired a bunch of guys or gave everyone 50 50 booking so nobody's truly over
@@speranza9415 that is a overused finish in every company never did like the double finisher/double cover other then that this was excellent. Moxley isn't as bad as Corny thinks he just doesn't like his style he's been a top guy in WWE now aew so he's doing something right
Lance Archer has two managers. Tully can't manage a winning team. And Alex Abrahantes' team is constantly missing one member. Being a manager in AEW is tough.
Punk sold a punch with a ring like the Giant sold the belt to the head from Hogan in 96’, but kicks out at 2 after GETTING WHACKED IN THE HEAD WITH A RING BELL!!
Great match, I just wish they’d hold back some of the heavy stuff (ring bell, DDT on the floor etc.) for finishes. If you can take a ring bell to the head, nothing short of a stampeding elephant should end a match.
Amazing tag match. Probably the best tag match on AEW TV, this kinda stuff makes me really wanna see what Moxley or Punk would do teaming with Danielson.
Did anyone else notice/love how during Moxleys entrance, he was on the outside and he flipped off both Dax and Cash, then passed Tully, but stopped, then turned around and bowed to him. That was awesome.
@Og Shingo he wrestles exactly the same like he did In wwe and his hardcore matches are even worse the g1 in 2019 he actually wrestle hell he was even wearing wrestling tights that’s how motivated he was
Has Jim seen Moxley's G1 run and Bloodsport stuff? Also his match on Dark with Robert Anthony. When Mox wants to he can actually be a damn good wrestler. I'd prefer to see that Moxley more often than the hardcore stuff but I understand it's what he made his name on and it's his preferred style
I say the same thing moxley is underrated as a actual WRESTLER... He can actually hit you with all genres of Wrestling he just choices the backyard style.. he's actually a great technician... Reason why I say he was the best in the Shield
Jim doesn’t care about Japan. But I agree wholeheartedly Moxley can work well in the ring. Hopefully he gets to return to the G1 this year(and brings Danielson).
Punk created the shield so him and Mox have a lot more history than just that promo he did when Mox went to rehab. I think he handpicked Mox and Seth plus there's the Renee connection.
@@peytonlong5573 I was cringing from the time he started slapping punk with his suit jacket tbh.. but punk did his best to salvage it.. but I think what made it worse was that they were obviously trying to time it up so as soon as Tully face hit Punks knee, Punk would get rolled up from behind for a two count.. that added to it being bad IMO bc like I said it was so obviously something they pre-planned...
He just needs to switch up to the shorts again and wrestle like he did in Japan, FCW, and HWA. Hard hitting but elements of old school wrestling. He's a good wrestler, but he just looks uncomfortable/restricted wrestling in pants. His match with Brian Cage is good. Him being a heel in WWE (2011-2013) was his better matches because he knows how to be a villain. 2016 was his peak year as a face. In AEW it started good, but he went back to the deathmatch style and he accidentally drowned himself in it to the point it defines him when he's a really good at working the body. Cornette shits on him because as good as Moxley is, he blatantly chooses not to wrestle purely. If he keeps it in the ring for the most part, he can hang hold for hold and trade heat for heat. I just hope Moxley starts wrestling more seriously like he did in Japan and is his early WWE/pre CZW run.
FTR is my favorite tag team. I didn’t appreciate them as much in WWE for some reason but ever since they came to AEW I’ve become a fan. From there entrance music to having Tully in there corner to wrestling like a old school tag team. 👌
You should find the old HWA footage of Mox and Nigel or with Claudio(( Cesaro)) or Sami Callihan and The Crist Brothers; all of them learned in HWA... Find HWA footage
This match was the best match I’ve gotten to see in person in a really long time, the lone criticism would be that it may have slightly overstayed its welcome by a few minutes. But that’s the only thing worth criticizing
This was one of the better tag matches I have seen since the Black & Gold Days of NXT, I say that like it was a long time ago, lol. I love FTR wearing Tully B.'s Boots, nice attention to detail.
People don't give Mox enough credit as a tag wrestler IMO. I'll be the first to admit my first exposure to him was his time in the Shield but I stand by the opinion that as part of the Shield he was an integral part of the great tag team wrestling that group consistently put on. So I'm happy to see Mox in tag scenarios and hope they run with Bryan and him with a guy or two as a faction because in tag team and especially trios matches I completely buy Mox's toughness as someone who can convincingly take the heat for a good hot tag. I hope they do more with him in tag scenarios, because I believe some of his best work can be done there.
He’s always excelled in the tag and 6 man tags as a member of the Shield. Him and Seth were probably the best tag team in the company when they were together. And of course the original Shield run is probably the best stable to come through for the last decade
@Og Shingo I'll have to check those out then. I don't mind that style, Stan Hansen was a beast back in the day, but there's a big size and believability difference between moxley and Hansen. I remember me n my cousin would get tapes way back and I can't see Moxley popping out Vaders eye!!
To give you a sense of how tag-team wrestling in particular has fallen from grace, my eight-year-old son, referring to Blanchard in this match asked, “Who is that old man?” I said, “He’s a tag-team champion from many years ago.” My son says, “Oh, so he isn’t important then…” Thanks modern wrestling.
Teach your child, please, everyone. Do it, before this amazing artform dies and we're left with literally no one that respects it's history. It's up to you.
@@wallyrosario654 only took them near 3 years to do it Inner circle should have split during the pinnicle feud when the stip was pinnicle had to split up Since then they been treading water And hell it’s affected sammys tnt title reigns as it’s more focused on what the IC are doing
13:00 Thats why I wasn't invested in this kinda gimmick stuff. I liked the House of black vs PAC and Penta because it seemed like a shoot. Big dangerous guys going at it. Like the Road warriors, Midnight express, Harlem heat, Meng and the Barbarian. Scary intimidating
Dude this match was the best card on best match on the f****** card those big dudes ain't worth a damn the only big dude that I can see that's really worth a damn is powerhouse Hobbs
I think it was one of the better tag matches in AEW. I'm usually not overly critical, but one thing that gets on my nerves is that there seem to be no rules in tag matches. The ref just stands there and lets everyone in the ring at the same time. It happens so much that it's irritating now.
I've seen the "too excited jumped too soon" botch several times, but it is usually something like a bulldog, Ace crusher/cutter, or catapult, not a lift.
i would've liked this match a lot better if it wasn't for the 10 different endings that should've happened before that underwhelming pin at the end. i was already frustrated that a non-established tag team in Punk and Moxley would get a pin over FTR but at this point, I believe FTR only stays in AEW for the paycheck since there's nowhere else for them to really go and be booked properly. but at least they get to wrestle. and i think they legitimately enjoy working with Punk, at least, just because they have similar old school mentality of wrestling. But finish-wise, i called out several times where the moment should've been the finish. the doomday device, the Big Rig, the pulling of the tights, etc. This reminded me of that scene from the movie Clerks 2 where Randal has that debate about the Return of the King having 10 different endings with that LOTR mark and Ben Affleck (i think) turning around and saying, "Fucking aye." this match had that same feeling. you're ready to accept any of these finishes, but the match keeps going on much more than it should. there really wasn't anything major on the line here except for Punk being able to get at MJF. But this wasn't a title match or anything of that caliber in terms of stakes where people should be doing big kick outs from major moments. I get where they're heading with this but it didn't do FTR any favors. This obviously was for a ratings grab in putting together Moxley and Punk as a tag team. We do know that Punk did put over Moxley for wanting the fans to support him as far as any connection he would have with him. So there's that. But Kingston also is Moxley's friend and Punk had that forgotten one month feud with Kingston but there's no mention of that. I just hope that FTR gets something from all these jobs. But i doubt they will since the Bucks have publicly declared they're looking for tag gold again, which is silly except that most likely they'll wrestle ReDragon once Kyle O'Reilly finishes up with his paternity leave.
I didn't mind them going over. It wasn't anything like a WWE match where the two top singles guys would have no problem with a top tag team. You'd expect Punk or Mox to go over either of FTR in a singles match but it was booked so FTR almost overcame them with their better teamwork, Punk and Mox scraped that win and were selling at the end like two guys who'd taken a hell of a beating. It was almost like they were the underdogs getting the win.
Yeah, the Tully spot could've been taken away from the match, not gonna lie👎🏿. Cause I'm used to see Punk nailing the GTS, so when I saw it looking like it did, I knew something was up🤔. With that said, I enjoyed your breakdown of the match👍🏿
Punk & Mox go back to the Shield days(John was even wearing those black tactical pants & boots in that match)...Punk started that faction(They should bring in Chris Hero on that angle alone)...
This is the damn truth, full stop. Tony Kahn is wasting a tremendous opportunity because he refuses to put someone in charge who actually understands how to book wrestling.
Ok. I am convinced that current Ring of Honor World Tag Team Champions in The Briscoes (Jay & Mark) and former ROH World Six-Man Tag Team Champions Shane Taylor Promotions (Shane Taylor with Soldiers of Savagery: Kaun & Moses), may need to negotiate with William Corgan of the National Wrestling Alliance instead of Tony Khan in All Elite Wrestling.
Surprised Jim didn't get mad over Punk kicking out after getting hit with the damn ring bell then a brain buster. Even I was like WTF ? Gotta bring an AR 15 to the ring to get a 3 count in this company.
That's any company in modern wrestling. Just the way it is I guess same shit happens in impact and WWE all the time isn't just aew that's forsure. People kick out of finishers all the time now days it seems have to do multiple f5s in Brock Lesnar case or 5 spears from Roman reigns it gets a little silly
@@PIP-zf9yb It's not a finisher if it doesn't finish the match! I would love to put the tope suicidas and Canadian Destroyers of the world on a foreseeable hiatus.
Moxley, Bryan, and Punk have a history with each other going back more than a decade. It is the ENTIRE reason fans were salivating for the 3 to meet up again in AEW. FTR is 39-9 as a tag team in AEW. They are one of the winnest tag teams in the entire company. FTR was undefeated all year. They have only been off TV like 4-5 weeks total since they started working in AEW. The Young bucks have lost 45-50% of their matches. FTR has won 70-75% of all their matches. Almost every other Tag team except the Gunn Club is about 50% win percentile. Meaning FTR wins the vast majority of their matches, even against the Young Bucks. Only 3 tag teams in AEW are above 50% wins, FTR is one of those 3. There is literally NO OTHER PLATFORM asserting the flat-out incorrect and factually false information about FTR, a team Cornette supposedly enjoys, like this platform. It's not even hard to fact-check. As soon as Croentte says anything about WWE, AEW or any other promotion that is not about what is happening in the ring he reveals total and willful ignorance.
Didn't ftr say that the backslap tag were allowed When they argued with people on twitter at the start of the year and showed of clip of it being used in an old tag match. I only mention this as jim comments on being sad as punk did a backslap tag in the match
@@tonyjackson4078 I don’t understand the concern here. I mean, all the time when they have partners put together reluctantly, one will tap the other on the back to make himself the legal man. Theoretically, if the guy could lift his leg up toward the corner, the guy could tag hand-to-foot and that should be okay. Should be any contact at all.
Also I don't understand the hate on a backslap tag. It doesn't bury the ref, if anything it makes them look better because they're on top of it. Finally in the throes of combat when fatigue sets in I can honestly see someone missing a tag and as a tag tactic it's actually smart. You let your tired/worn down opponent shoot their shot at the non-legal guy who now is no danger to losing the match for you, you pick your spot and as soon as your opponent gives his biggest shot to buy time for his tag or to try and finish the match you hit him with your best shot he doesn't see coming. Shield match against Punk, Roman with the blind tag on Mox who backed up to the rope for it, then Mox charges in, Punk thinks it was just a rope attack and gets him up and around for a GTS, bang nails it and no sooner does Mox fall of his knee, BANG! Roman splits him in half with a spear. Punk didn't see it coming but he was exhausted, Mox and Roman look like a good unit because they manipulated Punk and executed a plan, and everyone comes out looking good. Punk, it took two guys and trickery to beat him, Mox he was smart enough to create the tag opportunity and then tough enough to take the big hit to create the opening for his parter, Roman for being smart, picking his spot and getting the win.
The fact that Jim says Moxely isn't a top guy just proves he has blind hate for the man. He's clearly the most over wrestler in AEW right after Punk and Bryan, I honestly don't understand his constant hate for the man.
He added a caveat if you didn't notice... "Top f*cking guys AND some of the best in the world at what they do." And idk why you say hatred. That's dramatic. He doesn't enjoy his matches and he $hits on him. It's not like he's offering unsolicited opinions. 277k people subscribe to hear his unfiltered opinions.
@@drewspods He literally shits on everything Moxely does, even called his time in rehab a "vacation" and constantly makes sexual jokes about his wife Renee. He shits on his music/entrance, mic skills, looks, moveset, and even personal issues. That is hate my friend regardless of how you see it. He's in pure denial that Mox is a draw in AEW and constantly refers to him as the flunkie of the Sheild when he was originally the most over in the group until he was booked like shit. I'm a huge fan of Cornette but when it comes ylto wrestlers he doesn't like, all his wrestling judgment goes out the window.
@@markrichardson8793 His promos are fine... But his music was a weird choice. His entrance is incredibly time consuming & overdone. He looks like somebodies grungy uncle. His hardcore moveset isn't really appealing to people that want to see real wrestling matches. ^ All of those things can be true without hating him. So that leaves some personal comments. He makes sexual jokes about women (which I could do without) regularly. He has an old school mentality about taking time off - He thought Ronda & Becky should've held off on having a baby bc they were over when they left. Flunkie of the Shield... In terms of success & doing what he wants to do, no. In terms of the quality of their work since he left WWE? Yeah probably. Although I hold a bit of a grudge against Seth for injuring Sting, I don't think it's crazy to say Seth & Roman are better than him in the ring.
@Og Shingo You really expect Jim to keep up with the G1 and all that other stuff in Japan. He watches the mainstream American stuff and goes off what he sees there (like me & any more casual type of fan would). And Mox hasn't shown any of what you're talking about in AEW. That's not Jim's fault... Hence his comments about how he's the Shield flunkie & isn't one of the best in the world. What's the difference if he can wrestle real matches but chooses not to or he can't? Kinda like the Mark Twain quote about reading. The man who can't read has no advantage over the man who chooses not" or something to that effect.
@@drewspods Seth may be better in the ring but Roman that's really debatable, Mox has shown much more of a versatile and diverse moveset than Roman has in both of their respected careers. Roman literally takes 5 mins to walk to the ring and they actually go to a commercial break during his entrance and after the break his music is still playing, but Jim never complains about that lol. At least Moxely is getting the crowd pumped during his entrance by interacting with them and they go crazy for it, isn't that what being a sports entertainer is about? I understand Moxely's style may not be likeable for everyone but sheesh! Jim makes it seems like the man is just complete garbage. Look at his review for the Roman and Reigns match at the rumble, Jim spent like 5 mins of that review talking about how Rollins entrance from the crowd is better than Moxley's, like what was the point of even bringing up Moxely? Wrestling legends like Punk and Danielson praise Moxely's skills for a reason I just wish that Jims opinions on him wasn't so negatively biased.
This was best match of the night and the length of the match ended at the perfect time. It was one of those matches where you get into it so much you care about the outcome even if it is predetermined.
Feel bad for asuka after WWE took a huuuuuuuuuuge Huuuuuuuuuuge Cleveland steamer on her character run on her USA run PLUS poor asuka after getting her dental bridge kicked out she left to her Homelands!!!! Poor lady
Exactly. TK got the Young Bucks as EVPs and I'm pretty sure those idiots are running the tag team division. I mean look at all the chaos that happens in every single tag match. FTR got buried for sure too. Just sad.
@@KB-hh8rt FTR's NOT buried but the stupid YB are in charge of tag teams, I'm sure. FTR should CHALLENGE the Young Bucks. (TK has to step in b/c the Bucks are out of control)
That would have been a mistake. They did the big reveal for WWE disgruntled fans with Keith Lee and the reveal for Indie/NJPW fans with Jay White, so debuting Samoa Joe there would either kill both those debuts or be upstaged by them. Give him a debut solo, with a mike, probably best once this Punk feud is over, putting him against Punk if he is going to be a heel or against MJF if he is meant to be a babyface. Or against Bryant, and they can play slightly more complex caracters. But give him a mike in his debut.
Would have been cool given the history between them. I would have had Joe as Punks friend up until the decisive MJF v Punk match when he turns heel on Punk and costs him the win and feud. Punk and Joe then feud in AEW for old times sake.
AEW: We take Tag Team Wrestling seriously. Also AEW: has one of the best teams in the business stare at the lights for 2 singles wrestlers tagging together for the 1st time.
Those two single wrestlers are two of the most protected guys in the company. Moxley has never been pinned clean in AEW and Punk’s only losses are because of MJF cheating. It makes sense that if anybody could beat an established team it’s Punk and Moxley
There's no shame in losing to Punk/Mox even though they haven't tagged before in AEW. Mox is a former AEW champion and Punk has been wrestling for 20 years. If it was just any 2 random guys then yea but in this case FTR looked great. Too bad they haven't been booked well before this but it's not the fault of this match.
Moxely's pretty good when he keeps it in the square,Jim needs to let go already becuz this guy is friends with the drug addicted bank robber don't discredit whatever he does from hence forth
What you say about the Bucks is actually wrong. They have said it multiple times that they didn't want to win the Tag titles yet, when they beat FTR. But Tony Khan wanted them to win so they accepted.
Doesn't mean it's wrong, at all...I can tell you I didn't want to punch you in the face, after I've done it, but it's already done...now you have the option to ignore what I did, how I did it and the timing when I did it and you can just believe me and move on because aint nothing you can do because I already did it...lol think about it and it's not that hard to see that your actually wrong in what you say about the hardlies...
Gotta love how religiously FTR holds onto that little tag rope and tries to only makes clean tags, no one else even bothers.
I’ll be honest, I didn’t even know about that little rope. I’ve watched wrestling for 50 years. But in this match at one point I saw Punk playing with the one in his corner and I thought, “Oh!”
How else can they just wander to the neutral corners like they’re not suppose to?
@@joshuaDstarks I still remember during the elite versus dark order and hangman match, Kenny was literally hanging out near the baby face corner for like 3 to 4 minutes. I normally never get bugged by things like that but that one was so egregious that it just blew my mind and really lowered my opinion of Kenny as a wrestler in an already overblown ridiculous match
@@GumshoeStories I have been watching wrestling for 32 years and I always knew about the tag rope but never really knew what it was for until I was older haha. Its really quite obvious too. The length of the tag rope is as far from your corner that you can venture. In WWE it's 18 inches and the reason for that is because in Dallas, Texas there is a rule that the tag rope HAS to be 18 inches. I'm not sure what sporting authority came up with that rule back in the day when wrestling was considered somewhat legit but it has stuck ever since and so because they have to make it 18 inches in Dallas they just use it at 18 inches all the time. I guess i will mention that I watched wrestling for 32 years but don't watch anymore. Its all unwatchable, unbearable, just garbage. NXT was cool and got me back into it but NXT 2.0 ruined that in a hurry.
Yeah, and what the FUCK HAPPENED to only having a 5-count for both partners to be in the ring? It's like there's no fucking rules AT ALL, and it really detracts from how good shit like this is
FTR’s problem is that, they’re so good that they can carry anyone, so they have to put over everyone. They’re like a tag team made up of 2 Dolph Zigglers.
No dolph is not that good. Not at all.
@@ash80510 you clearly haven’t been watching Dolph. One of the best wrestlers in the business easily.
@@ash80510 dolph is not as good in ring as dax or cash imo but he’s underrated & he’s right about what he said
@@SRT8KASH dolph solid in ring and can really sell but he's not on their level.
Not that I care one way or the other, but Dolph actually IS considered a really, really good worker by a lot of respected folks. Corny, Arn, JR, Stone Cold, Booker, etc all have referred to Dolph as one of the best workers in today's biz.
“Listeners, talk amongst yourselves while I talk to FTR” 😂😂
“It’s not advice, I CREATED THE FUCKING THING!” 😂🤌🏼 FUCKING GOAT
Moxley originally debuted in WWE with Punk, so it actually made sense,
Punk also went down to FCW when he was a top guy to wrestle Moxley, did the same with Rollins in NXT.
I like how Jim when he disagrees or doesn't like something he explains why he doesn't like it. Then he explains how it could've been done better.
I'm sorry, but when you whack someone in the head with a ring bell, they should not be kicking out.
FACTS
I even used to feel guilty using them in video games.. lol too OP
Just like when you get 8 power bombs. But yet AEW is killing moves.
Punk somehow picks up a win after getting powerbombed 8 times, and also getting hit by a ring bell. However he gets KTFO long enough after a punch from MJF wearing a ring to lose. So either MJF has Tyson like knockout power in his fist (which has gone under the radar this whole time) or the booking and suspension of disbelief is massively out of whack.
@@ziahamm1603 the latter for sure
Like how Corny is harder on FTR on anyone else bc he knows how good they are. Like a good ball coach grading his best athletes more strict than the average guys.
The table spot was a bit much and the Tully spot was rough but otherwise this was one of the best straight up tag team matches AEW has ever done.
Agreed they are slowly improving. With the roster being so loaded going to be hard to get all these people tv time I imagine rampage going to 2 hours sometime this year
@@PIP-zf9yb 2 hour Rampage as well as reassessing who should be getting tv time vs. who should be on the youtube shows. AEW has all the pieces to be great, all Tony Khan needs to do is figure out how to utilize it properly.
@@wwedbzguy the problem is ramage is already in a horseshit timeslot not that they picked that they just took it because it was offered ana available so I'm not sure it will happen but clearly the roster is loaded and 3 hours isn't long enough for building good story's and giving people proper time so I think they will be forced to do am extra hour of rampage eventually
I noticed that Punk was trying his best to try to keep Tully safe.
@@GenGamesUniverse agreed. I am with Jim for once though usually his takes are for shock value but his take on Tully not needing to do bumps I agree with he's a fucking senior citizen
Lol that Moxley face tho. 🤣🤣🤣
Best tag match I’ve seen in a good while. Punk is really getting back into his groove after having some ring rust his first few matches and I’m loving it. He’s still really damn good.
It would be like the WWE having two good single wrestlers teamed up to take on tag team technicians.
"Mox" is too lousy to grade this any higher than C+
@@williammitchell4417 A major difference would be AEW is following a storyline & Mox had major beef with MJF before & he's worked with Punk before. Now in WWE it's because a PPV is coming up & we've no teams cause either we fired a bunch of guys or gave everyone 50 50 booking so nobody's truly over
Punk is a 43 year old has been. Mox is in great shape maybe best shape of his career and a bad A$$ in the ring!
This match was chaotic and beautiful. I LOVED it. It looked like an actual struggle that the participants were actively trying to be successful in.
Agreed this was overall best dynamite I've seen.
That shit sucked. Ftr sucks
With the exception of the moments when Mox and Punk were doing simultaneous moves to FTR which is incredibly phony, yes this wasn't bad.
@@speranza9415 that is a overused finish in every company never did like the double finisher/double cover other then that this was excellent. Moxley isn't as bad as Corny thinks he just doesn't like his style he's been a top guy in WWE now aew so he's doing something right
@@Thejlmatghers - So you watched it then?
Lance Archer has two managers.
Tully can't manage a winning team.
And Alex Abrahantes' team is constantly missing one member.
Being a manager in AEW is tough.
Especially if you are cody's manager Arn and keep falling off everything.
And Jake can barely walk/talk.
Ndrades had about 4 as well 🤣🤣
Managing isn't tough. Dealing with rubbish politics is.
Christian is doing a great job of it with Jurassic express
I love when Jim gets the sympathetic burial voice ie. Tully’s managing 😂😂😂😂 13:05
Punk sold a punch with a ring like the Giant sold the belt to the head from Hogan in 96’, but kicks out at 2 after GETTING WHACKED IN THE HEAD WITH A RING BELL!!
That was the part that was dumb. A ring bell right into a brain buster. Kicks out at 2. Like ca mon lol
@@MrJjburgess11 Thats what i hate especially the gunn club jurassic express match
Yeah that was ridiculous.
Super Punk...reminds me of super Cena minus the muscles
FTR was done the minute they lost to the Hardly Boys and never got a rematch after.
This match was awesome FTR are fucking studs. my favorite spot was the GTS into the shattermachine. 🥰
Great match, I just wish they’d hold back some of the heavy stuff (ring bell, DDT on the floor etc.) for finishes. If you can take a ring bell to the head, nothing short of a stampeding elephant should end a match.
I agree seems to be a lot of things in this match that could have end it.
fans like tables, ring bells, chaos etc. A basic match doesn't capture enough attention anymore
Amazing tag match. Probably the best tag match on AEW TV, this kinda stuff makes me really wanna see what Moxley or Punk would do teaming with Danielson.
Did anyone else notice/love how during Moxleys entrance, he was on the outside and he flipped off both Dax and Cash, then passed Tully, but stopped, then turned around and bowed to him. That was awesome.
Great match I was really into it. I thought this was the best Moxley looked since he’s been there. More wrestling and less garbage.
Moxley is capable of wrestling he is just doesn’t want to
Mox actually looked like he was having fun
@Og Shingo he wrestles exactly the same like he did In wwe and his hardcore matches are even worse the g1 in 2019 he actually wrestle hell he was even wearing wrestling tights that’s how motivated he was
Has Jim seen Moxley's G1 run and Bloodsport stuff? Also his match on Dark with Robert Anthony. When Mox wants to he can actually be a damn good wrestler. I'd prefer to see that Moxley more often than the hardcore stuff but I understand it's what he made his name on and it's his preferred style
I say the same thing moxley is underrated as a actual WRESTLER... He can actually hit you with all genres of Wrestling he just choices the backyard style.. he's actually a great technician... Reason why I say he was the best in the Shield
Jim doesn’t care about Japan. But I agree wholeheartedly Moxley can work well in the ring. Hopefully he gets to return to the G1 this year(and brings Danielson).
“Well I created the fucking the thing” love me some Cornette 😂😂
Punk created the shield so him and Mox have a lot more history than just that promo he did when Mox went to rehab. I think he handpicked Mox and Seth plus there's the Renee connection.
They need Chris Hero now.
@@TheIslandDivision 😂😂😂😂
Punk has always been high on Mox even back to the FCW days it was great to see.
Tully taking the GTS was hard to watch lol
His involvement was unnecessary anyway.. they coulda left his whole part out
@@TrevStoker agreed cause yikes I felt bad for all parties involved on that one
@@peytonlong5573 I was cringing from the time he started slapping punk with his suit jacket tbh.. but punk did his best to salvage it.. but I think what made it worse was that they were obviously trying to time it up so as soon as Tully face hit Punks knee, Punk would get rolled up from behind for a two count.. that added to it being bad IMO bc like I said it was so obviously something they pre-planned...
@@TrevStoker yea it was just a bad spot in general Tully should by now he shouldn’t be taking any bumps cause it’ll look just awful
That was the worst part of the match and it wasn't a good GTS at that.
man i wish ftr could use they’re old finisher name shatter machine
He just needs to switch up to the shorts again and wrestle like he did in Japan, FCW, and HWA. Hard hitting but elements of old school wrestling. He's a good wrestler, but he just looks uncomfortable/restricted wrestling in pants. His match with Brian Cage is good. Him being a heel in WWE (2011-2013) was his better matches because he knows how to be a villain. 2016 was his peak year as a face. In AEW it started good, but he went back to the deathmatch style and he accidentally drowned himself in it to the point it defines him when he's a really good at working the body. Cornette shits on him because as good as Moxley is, he blatantly chooses not to wrestle purely. If he keeps it in the ring for the most part, he can hang hold for hold and trade heat for heat. I just hope Moxley starts wrestling more seriously like he did in Japan and is his early WWE/pre CZW run.
FTR is my favorite tag team. I didn’t appreciate them as much in WWE for some reason but ever since they came to AEW I’ve become a fan. From there entrance music to having Tully in there corner to wrestling like a old school tag team. 👌
Easily the best tag team in AEW also, so damn good.
That’s coz ur an AEW mark
How can you be once a fan of them coming over and doing way less than they have in the WWE? Dude I swear the human race is fucki g stupid
Because Vince hates tag wrestling
Same! I wasn't a big fan but now I love them! Every match of theirs is a Banger no matter who they're working with.
Some great near falls in this match, I thought Punk was going to lose on a couple of occasions.
I agree with Jim here, Tully's involvement was just bizarre
Brian is right about Moxley. He was talented AS a tag team to begin with.
You should find the old HWA footage of Mox and Nigel or with Claudio(( Cesaro)) or Sami Callihan and The Crist Brothers; all of them learned in HWA... Find HWA footage
This match would have started about 4 minutes sooner if moxley didn't get lost in the fucking crowd again during his entrance.
Lose Wild Thing and go back to the hard guitar music
This match was the best match I’ve gotten to see in person in a really long time, the lone criticism would be that it may have slightly overstayed its welcome by a few minutes. But that’s the only thing worth criticizing
This was one of the better tag matches I have seen since the Black & Gold Days of NXT, I say that like it was a long time ago, lol. I love FTR wearing Tully B.'s Boots, nice attention to detail.
New day vs lethal lover's
The ending was sloppy, most of the spots were slow to them getting there (Doomdays Kneevice spot). That GTS and P Shift combo was perfect 🔥
AR 15. Lmfao funny
So good chemestry between C.M. Punk and FTR, especially Dax Harwood.
I like imagining FTR listening and taking notes
Cornette is dropping facts. "They brought FTR in to bury them."
Lol they don't feel to buried right now, actually one of the most over acts, for sure most over tag team, in the business today
"It's not advice, I invented the fucking thing"
A quote that should serve the critics well!
People don't give Mox enough credit as a tag wrestler IMO. I'll be the first to admit my first exposure to him was his time in the Shield but I stand by the opinion that as part of the Shield he was an integral part of the great tag team wrestling that group consistently put on. So I'm happy to see Mox in tag scenarios and hope they run with Bryan and him with a guy or two as a faction because in tag team and especially trios matches I completely buy Mox's toughness as someone who can convincingly take the heat for a good hot tag. I hope they do more with him in tag scenarios, because I believe some of his best work can be done there.
his best matches ever are him and rollins vs the bar. I say all the time that I hate most of his matches, but I agree his best actual matches are tags
He’s always excelled in the tag and 6 man tags as a member of the Shield. Him and Seth were probably the best tag team in the company when they were together. And of course the original Shield run is probably the best stable to come through for the last decade
@Og Shingo I'll have to check those out then. I don't mind that style, Stan Hansen was a beast back in the day, but there's a big size and believability difference between moxley and Hansen. I remember me n my cousin would get tapes way back and I can't see Moxley popping out Vaders eye!!
"Like Bez from Happy Mondays." Moxley twistin' Cornette's melon man, walks so hip.
Jim always says "im not going to go over it " and then proceeds to go over it.😁
You nitpick on Moxley too much. Yeah he likes outlaw shit but he’s a big star, he can actually wrestle decent enough, and has a shit load of charisma.
To give you a sense of how tag-team wrestling in particular has fallen from grace, my eight-year-old son, referring to Blanchard in this match asked, “Who is that old man?” I said, “He’s a tag-team champion from many years ago.” My son says, “Oh, so he isn’t important then…” Thanks modern wrestling.
Teach your child, please, everyone. Do it, before this amazing artform dies and we're left with literally no one that respects it's history. It's up to you.
One of the most honest reviews I’ve ever heard of a match
FTR feels like a tag team that isn't part of the tag team division because their involvement with MJF's faction dominates the matches they get.
AEW needs a tag division. They have the randomness of Rancho Cucamonga swap meet.
Same with Santana and Ortiz private party burger and blade
@@peterlee6374 thank god it seems like they’re moving Santana and Ortiz away from the Inner Circle
@@wallyrosario654 only took them near 3 years to do it
Inner circle should have split during the pinnicle feud when the stip was pinnicle had to split up
Since then they been treading water And hell it’s affected sammys tnt title reigns as it’s more focused on what the IC are doing
@@peterlee6374 it’s bad when even Jericho himself wanted to break this group up months ago and they didn’t break it up until now.
13:00 Thats why I wasn't invested in this kinda gimmick stuff. I liked the House of black vs PAC and Penta because it seemed like a shoot. Big dangerous guys going at it. Like the Road warriors, Midnight express, Harlem heat, Meng and the Barbarian. Scary intimidating
Dude this match was the best card on best match on the f****** card those big dudes ain't worth a damn the only big dude that I can see that's really worth a damn is powerhouse Hobbs
Jimmy C always speaking that real.
4:35 Jim critiques FTR's Veg-o-matic (which Jim invented), along with a detailed description on how to do it correctly.
Well, that was awesome.
Still laughing at Punk struggling to pick up Tully. That was 10 seconds of gold
Well, I was just cringing because I could see Mr. Blanchard's face and him mouthing something to the effect, don't drop me Son.
He didn’t struggle to pick him up, Tully messed up his timing
@@Themaskplague As he does, they need to stop having Tully do anything physical.
Punk's a washed up wimp!!!
@@shawnsdr3406 lol go watch it and open your eyes … was Tully’s fault
Bez from Happy Mondays loool. Never thought I'd hear a Madchester reference on Cornie's channel
I think it was one of the better tag matches in AEW. I'm usually not overly critical, but one thing that gets on my nerves is that there seem to be no rules in tag matches. The ref just stands there and lets everyone in the ring at the same time. It happens so much that it's irritating now.
That's one thing I really hate about AEW. Their tag matches are absolutely garbage. No rules just chaos and the ref looks stupid the entire time.
“It’s Moxley. 😂🤣
Happy Mondays reference. Wow.
“ I love when you give advise” “It’s not advice, I invented the god damn thing” 🤣
😂😂😂😂😂 these are not suggestions,they’re the instructions that came with it lol
Like many others, during this, half of my mind could only think about Corny’s review
I would be awesome if they let Jim produce even just one match
Like Mussolini and Moxleyyyyy
I've seen the "too excited jumped too soon" botch several times, but it is usually something like a bulldog, Ace crusher/cutter, or catapult, not a lift.
Brian knowing the happy Mondays wasn't expecting that
Twistin' my melon, man...
Travis's go to move is to cross the eyes of the characters
Popped for the Bez from Happy Mondays reference! He lives just up the road from me.
1:36 - did I just hear a reference to Bez from the Happy Mondays?
That was unexpected!
Just a year ago Tully was in a tag much and looked pretty dam
Good. Promos were good too
Moxley is turning into Stone cold 🤣
i would've liked this match a lot better if it wasn't for the 10 different endings that should've happened before that underwhelming pin at the end. i was already frustrated that a non-established tag team in Punk and Moxley would get a pin over FTR but at this point, I believe FTR only stays in AEW for the paycheck since there's nowhere else for them to really go and be booked properly. but at least they get to wrestle. and i think they legitimately enjoy working with Punk, at least, just because they have similar old school mentality of wrestling.
But finish-wise, i called out several times where the moment should've been the finish. the doomday device, the Big Rig, the pulling of the tights, etc. This reminded me of that scene from the movie Clerks 2 where Randal has that debate about the Return of the King having 10 different endings with that LOTR mark and Ben Affleck (i think) turning around and saying, "Fucking aye." this match had that same feeling. you're ready to accept any of these finishes, but the match keeps going on much more than it should. there really wasn't anything major on the line here except for Punk being able to get at MJF. But this wasn't a title match or anything of that caliber in terms of stakes where people should be doing big kick outs from major moments.
I get where they're heading with this but it didn't do FTR any favors. This obviously was for a ratings grab in putting together Moxley and Punk as a tag team. We do know that Punk did put over Moxley for wanting the fans to support him as far as any connection he would have with him. So there's that. But Kingston also is Moxley's friend and Punk had that forgotten one month feud with Kingston but there's no mention of that. I just hope that FTR gets something from all these jobs. But i doubt they will since the Bucks have publicly declared they're looking for tag gold again, which is silly except that most likely they'll wrestle ReDragon once Kyle O'Reilly finishes up with his paternity leave.
I didn't mind them going over. It wasn't anything like a WWE match where the two top singles guys would have no problem with a top tag team. You'd expect Punk or Mox to go over either of FTR in a singles match but it was booked so FTR almost overcame them with their better teamwork, Punk and Mox scraped that win and were selling at the end like two guys who'd taken a hell of a beating. It was almost like they were the underdogs getting the win.
Yeah, the Tully spot could've been taken away from the match, not gonna lie👎🏿. Cause I'm used to see Punk nailing the GTS, so when I saw it looking like it did, I knew something was up🤔. With that said, I enjoyed your breakdown of the match👍🏿
I saw Jims pissed off face and knew it was gonna be another good one!
Punk & Mox go back to the Shield days(John was even wearing those black tactical pants & boots in that match)...Punk started that faction(They should bring in Chris Hero on that angle alone)...
I'm just glad I finally got my CM Punk vs Tully Blanchard match
This is the damn truth, full stop. Tony Kahn is wasting a tremendous opportunity because he refuses to put someone in charge who actually understands how to book wrestling.
Ok. I am convinced that current Ring of Honor World Tag Team Champions in The Briscoes (Jay & Mark) and former ROH World Six-Man Tag Team Champions Shane Taylor Promotions (Shane Taylor with Soldiers of Savagery: Kaun & Moses), may need to negotiate with William Corgan of the National Wrestling Alliance instead of Tony Khan in All Elite Wrestling.
Surprised Jim didn't get mad over Punk kicking out after getting hit with the damn ring bell then a brain buster. Even I was like WTF ? Gotta bring an AR 15 to the ring to get a 3 count in this company.
That's any company in modern wrestling. Just the way it is I guess same shit happens in impact and WWE all the time isn't just aew that's forsure. People kick out of finishers all the time now days it seems have to do multiple f5s in Brock Lesnar case or 5 spears from Roman reigns it gets a little silly
Excalibur: OHHHH JUNGLE BOY JUST GOT NAILED BY AN 18 WHEELERRRRRRR! THE COVERRRRRRRR….ONE…TWO…SHOULDER UP!
I long for the days where kicking out of a finisher was a massive deal! It still should be, not a regular occurrence.
@@georgejohnson4329 I agree I don't like that about today's wrestling either they have tarnished the finisher all company's
@@PIP-zf9yb It's not a finisher if it doesn't finish the match! I would love to put the tope suicidas and Canadian Destroyers of the world on a foreseeable hiatus.
I will say the should of just barely beat FTR because God damn they are still the best heel tag in the world!!!
I agree with you b/c Mox and Punk weren't an "actual" tag team but FTR is!
I love hearing Jim give advise to FTR I felt like I was FTR and Jim was talking to me and giving me advise
Well FTR tried to do the Midnight Express’ move Veg-O-Matic and Jim was explaining on how it was done.
@@KRISTINARZ040579 yes, I did listen to video and I did understand what he said
Moxley, Bryan, and Punk have a history with each other going back more than a decade. It is the ENTIRE reason fans were salivating for the 3 to meet up again in AEW.
FTR is 39-9 as a tag team in AEW. They are one of the winnest tag teams in the entire company. FTR was undefeated all year. They have only been off TV like 4-5 weeks total since they started working in AEW.
The Young bucks have lost 45-50% of their matches. FTR has won 70-75% of all their matches. Almost every other Tag team except the Gunn Club is about 50% win percentile. Meaning FTR wins the vast majority of their matches, even against the Young Bucks. Only 3 tag teams in AEW are above 50% wins, FTR is one of those 3.
There is literally NO OTHER PLATFORM asserting the flat-out incorrect and factually false information about FTR, a team Cornette supposedly enjoys, like this platform. It's not even hard to fact-check.
As soon as Croentte says anything about WWE, AEW or any other promotion that is not about what is happening in the ring he reveals total and willful ignorance.
FTR's 1st match was May 27th 2020 in AEW ( 21 months ago or 84 weeks approx. ) so if they are 39-9 havent they NOT been on about 36 weeks of shows?
I hope this faction Bryan has been teasing comes to fruition and it includes Mox and Punk. The stories would be endless.
No the bucks have not.
whats cornette's issues with backslap tags?
Didn't ftr say that the backslap tag were allowed When they argued with people on twitter at the start of the year and showed of clip of it being used in an old tag match. I only mention this as jim comments on being sad as punk did a backslap tag in the match
I think it's more allowed when they are setting up a double team and the guy tagging out is maintaining control.
@@tonyjackson4078 I don’t understand the concern here. I mean, all the time when they have partners put together reluctantly, one will tap the other on the back to make himself the legal man. Theoretically, if the guy could lift his leg up toward the corner, the guy could tag hand-to-foot and that should be okay. Should be any contact at all.
Also I don't understand the hate on a backslap tag. It doesn't bury the ref, if anything it makes them look better because they're on top of it. Finally in the throes of combat when fatigue sets in I can honestly see someone missing a tag and as a tag tactic it's actually smart. You let your tired/worn down opponent shoot their shot at the non-legal guy who now is no danger to losing the match for you, you pick your spot and as soon as your opponent gives his biggest shot to buy time for his tag or to try and finish the match you hit him with your best shot he doesn't see coming. Shield match against Punk, Roman with the blind tag on Mox who backed up to the rope for it, then Mox charges in, Punk thinks it was just a rope attack and gets him up and around for a GTS, bang nails it and no sooner does Mox fall of his knee, BANG! Roman splits him in half with a spear. Punk didn't see it coming but he was exhausted, Mox and Roman look like a good unit because they manipulated Punk and executed a plan, and everyone comes out looking good. Punk, it took two guys and trickery to beat him, Mox he was smart enough to create the tag opportunity and then tough enough to take the big hit to create the opening for his parter, Roman for being smart, picking his spot and getting the win.
The fact that Jim says Moxely isn't a top guy just proves he has blind hate for the man. He's clearly the most over wrestler in AEW right after Punk and Bryan, I honestly don't understand his constant hate for the man.
He added a caveat if you didn't notice... "Top f*cking guys AND some of the best in the world at what they do."
And idk why you say hatred. That's dramatic. He doesn't enjoy his matches and he $hits on him. It's not like he's offering unsolicited opinions. 277k people subscribe to hear his unfiltered opinions.
@@drewspods He literally shits on everything Moxely does, even called his time in rehab a "vacation" and constantly makes sexual jokes about his wife Renee. He shits on his music/entrance, mic skills, looks, moveset, and even personal issues. That is hate my friend regardless of how you see it. He's in pure denial that Mox is a draw in AEW and constantly refers to him as the flunkie of the Sheild when he was originally the most over in the group until he was booked like shit. I'm a huge fan of Cornette but when it comes ylto wrestlers he doesn't like, all his wrestling judgment goes out the window.
@@markrichardson8793 His promos are fine... But his music was a weird choice. His entrance is incredibly time consuming & overdone. He looks like somebodies grungy uncle. His hardcore moveset isn't really appealing to people that want to see real wrestling matches.
^ All of those things can be true without hating him.
So that leaves some personal comments. He makes sexual jokes about women (which I could do without) regularly.
He has an old school mentality about taking time off - He thought Ronda & Becky should've held off on having a baby bc they were over when they left.
Flunkie of the Shield... In terms of success & doing what he wants to do, no. In terms of the quality of their work since he left WWE? Yeah probably. Although I hold a bit of a grudge against Seth for injuring Sting, I don't think it's crazy to say Seth & Roman are better than him in the ring.
@Og Shingo You really expect Jim to keep up with the G1 and all that other stuff in Japan. He watches the mainstream American stuff and goes off what he sees there (like me & any more casual type of fan would). And Mox hasn't shown any of what you're talking about in AEW. That's not Jim's fault... Hence his comments about how he's the Shield flunkie & isn't one of the best in the world.
What's the difference if he can wrestle real matches but chooses not to or he can't? Kinda like the Mark Twain quote about reading. The man who can't read has no advantage over the man who chooses not" or something to that effect.
@@drewspods Seth may be better in the ring but Roman that's really debatable, Mox has shown much more of a versatile and diverse moveset than Roman has in both of their respected careers. Roman literally takes 5 mins to walk to the ring and they actually go to a commercial break during his entrance and after the break his music is still playing, but Jim never complains about that lol. At least Moxely is getting the crowd pumped during his entrance by interacting with them and they go crazy for it, isn't that what being a sports entertainer is about? I understand Moxely's style may not be likeable for everyone but sheesh! Jim makes it seems like the man is just complete garbage. Look at his review for the Roman and Reigns match at the rumble, Jim spent like 5 mins of that review talking about how Rollins entrance from the crowd is better than Moxley's, like what was the point of even bringing up Moxely? Wrestling legends like Punk and Danielson praise Moxely's skills for a reason I just wish that Jims opinions on him wasn't so negatively biased.
How many times has Lesnar taken the bump through the table shit lol I know it takes him longer to get back up
This was best match of the night and the length of the match ended at the perfect time.
It was one of those matches where you get into it so much you care about the outcome even if it is predetermined.
"Bez from Happy Mondays."
"I don't know that one..."
I felt bad for all these 4 guys. This crowd chanted GCW during their match. What Jim says is true. AEW just hired FTR to feed them to the Bucks.
Feel bad for asuka after WWE took a huuuuuuuuuuge Huuuuuuuuuuge Cleveland steamer on her character run on her USA run PLUS poor asuka after getting her dental bridge kicked out she left to her Homelands!!!! Poor lady
Exactly. TK got the Young Bucks as EVPs and I'm pretty sure those idiots are running the tag team division. I mean look at all the chaos that happens in every single tag match. FTR got buried for sure too. Just sad.
@@KB-hh8rt FTR's NOT buried but the stupid YB are in charge of tag teams, I'm sure. FTR should CHALLENGE the Young Bucks. (TK has to step in b/c the Bucks are out of control)
"Bez from The Happy Mondays"
I'M DEAD
There's continuity in here with B. Last trying to tell Jim about the Happy Mondays reference again. Ha.
Hold on! Brian with a Happy Mondays reference?!
Pills, thrills and bellyaches indeed.
The simultaneous hot tag is a WWE staple. That's all I saw in every WWE tag match over the last 15 years.
5 star match! Maybe the best tag of the year so far!!
I wish it was Samoa Joe tbh as the mystery partner, the moxley reveal kinda killed it for me
Mox punk and bryan are gonna build a faction soon
Hmmm ion know if I wanna see that hey more of Imagine a ROH legends Stable CM Punk, Danielson and Samoa Joe 😌
That would have been a mistake. They did the big reveal for WWE disgruntled fans with Keith Lee and the reveal for Indie/NJPW fans with Jay White, so debuting Samoa Joe there would either kill both those debuts or be upstaged by them. Give him a debut solo, with a mike, probably best once this Punk feud is over, putting him against Punk if he is going to be a heel or against MJF if he is meant to be a babyface. Or against Bryant, and they can play slightly more complex caracters. But give him a mike in his debut.
Joe will injure himself
Would have been cool given the history between them. I would have had Joe as Punks friend up until the decisive MJF v Punk match when he turns heel on Punk and costs him the win and feud. Punk and Joe then feud in AEW for old times sake.
Didn’t expect to hear Bez from happy Mondays be mentioned lol. Twisting my melon maaaaaaan
He-he-he-heeeeeey
AEW: We take Tag Team Wrestling seriously.
Also AEW: has one of the best teams in the business stare at the lights for 2 singles wrestlers tagging together for the 1st time.
Well, Punk and Moxley have been wrestling for 20+ years compared to FTR. Two indie veterans beating a tag team isn't out of realm.
@@eastwaters4082 and they arent just any veterans. These are the best of the best , they made of different clothe, so its works
Those two single wrestlers are two of the most protected guys in the company. Moxley has never been pinned clean in AEW and Punk’s only losses are because of MJF cheating. It makes sense that if anybody could beat an established team it’s Punk and Moxley
World Champion caliber guys tho!
There's no shame in losing to Punk/Mox even though they haven't tagged before in AEW. Mox is a former AEW champion and Punk has been wrestling for 20 years. If it was just any 2 random guys then yea but in this case FTR looked great. Too bad they haven't been booked well before this but it's not the fault of this match.
Moxely's pretty good when he keeps it in the square,Jim needs to let go already becuz this guy is friends with the drug addicted bank robber don't discredit whatever he does from hence forth
Happy Mondays were a great band
Jesus, as a mancunian I never thought I'd hear Bez and The Happy Mondays mentioned on Jim Cornettes podcast 😀 Fair fucks Mr Last 👏
FTR is very good. Briscoes should come tear the house down with FTR and that would be amazing.
In the graphics. Why does punk. always looks like he's constipated?
What you say about the Bucks is actually wrong. They have said it multiple times that they didn't want to win the Tag titles yet, when they beat FTR. But Tony Khan wanted them to win so they accepted.
So, they COULD have refused……
Corney is almost always wrong
@@planexshifter FTR basically came to AEW so they could put over the Bucks
Doesn't mean it's wrong, at all...I can tell you I didn't want to punch you in the face, after I've done it, but it's already done...now you have the option to ignore what I did, how I did it and the timing when I did it and you can just believe me and move on because aint nothing you can do because I already did it...lol think about it and it's not that hard to see that your actually wrong in what you say about the hardlies...
@@planexshifter lol ya refuse the boss that usually works out well for people. I'm sure that's what everyone else would of done yep lol...m
Yesssss! It is that dude from Happy Mondays 🇬🇧😂
We need a Mox vs Bez dance off video.