Virgin Trains loses West Coast Mainline franchise to First Group
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- NOTE: Virgin Trains launched legal action after the video was made against DfT and the franchise bidding was scrapped and Virgin was awarded a temp 2 year contract.
A Very sad day for Virgin Rail and me as Virgin have lost the WCML franchise to First group who will take over on December the 9th 2012. This now means virgin trains will no longer exist because they are not planning to put in anymore franchise bids. R.I.P Virgin Trains the best TOC and always will be!
Who's here now that Virgin really is losing the WCML to First and Trenitalia?
Randomly came in my recommended after watching a train vlog about itlol
FirstGroup have been desperate for the WCML. However, if they put too much focus on the West Coast, they'll forget about GWR, and hopefully Virgin will run instead in 2020.
@@AllThingsRailways Virgin Great Western...? oh god...
@@AllThingsRailways4 years later and GWR is still going strong, virgin are gone.
Certainly a sad end to a great railway, but sadly time moves on and everything changes. Goodbye Virgin, you're red and silver will be sorely missed :(
Virgin supposed to end 2012, 2018 and it’s still Virgin.
2019 and it's gone
I'm here thinking this has only just happened.. Was this in the plans 7 years ago?
They lost it, they complained it wasn't fair, got it back, then lost it again
@@oliverstemp9132 ahh okay that makes sense. When did they lose it and get it back?
I Love Virgin - I always pay that bit more to travel with Virgin over Other operators. Can’t believe this is the end 😭😭😭
Thank you Virgin Trains may I say what a Pleasure it was too travel with you I do hope the new company can live up to your standards when I next take a rail journey
I'm really not sorry to see the back of Virgin Trains. Not only the uncomfortably hot train with awfully small seats, but the fact that the parent company is based in the British Virgin Islands and therefore a sizeable chunk of profit is not subject to UK tax.
I'll clear this up, the CEO is an American but it is definitely a scottish (British) company. There are also lots of other British rail companies left: stagecoach group who operate trains all over Britain including east midlands trains and south west trains, go ahead group also have widespread rail services. There are loads of small companies too.
I do not want those dirty First livery and colour scheme on those shiny Pendolinis!
This is a bad thing
Virgin Had there Contract Renewed so they will continue to use the west coast mainline
First group should be ashamed Virgin were the best company I knew
So, here we go again...
First were to lease more trains, not buy them. The banks own all of the trains via Rolling stock operating companies. The railway isn't privatised. The train operating companies bid for franchises on sections of the network. They operate the trains on behalf of HM Government, instead of British Rail. It was designed to cut the cost of running the network. The problem is that it costs the taxpayer a lot more in subsidies than British Rail ever did.
You're about...
7 years too early
At the time, it was planned to happen, but it was changed, in the end.
A brilliant 22 years!
OR DID THEY?
This isn't the end of Virgin trains actually, they're bidding for other railways, for example the GWML
They've never bid for GWML.
@@devon896 I think this is from 8 years ago back in 2012 when they almost lost the franchise to first group, not first group trentalia (avanti)
@@edwardmortimer2150 Either way they've never bid for the GWML
@@devon896 idk I was just saying I never checked
Edit: just realised, on my original I I thght the original commenter said the midland main line, I think the mean the great western main line and yeh they never did bid on that for sure, sry my mistake
Branson was correct about First Group, Avanti’s services on the WCML are awful compared to Virgin Trains
Actually Avanti's no livery pendolinos are VIRGIN
trains.
Wrong decision? Yes it was. Wrong decision to give it to you? Yes. British Rail? YES!!!!
I am confused as the TVnew and the newspaper all said it was an american company. i know the owner is American.
No virgin has got it in the bag this time and that have done an grate job over the last 15 year so its only far that thay its to carry on the grate job that thay are doing on the west coast mineline
+Laura Marshall I 100% agree
Virgin still have the west coast mainline but not for long
Why first group... theyre already doing a bad job with SWR
first group only care about first greater western ltd, its always been that way, the over franchises have only been bought for extra income really to mark hopwood
I live in Carlisle and I have never saw any first trains! only virgin trains up here😄
erm Scotrail run services to there and up to a year ago scotrail was run by first.
oh yeah completely forgot about that!!!
TH_ 2K16 hahahaha ok
+TH_ 2K16 just to say, The first franchise is rubbish
also TPE are operated by First
I mean Pendolinos.
Probably just bad researchers. It's headquarters are in Aberdeen.
Am I the only one where it spazzes out halfway through?
Nope
But virgin still run today...
I don't think first could keep the west coast mainline and all there other so virgin train should keep its fore 15 year + and virgin shord have cross country and the East Coast mainline as well
2017 and still no first trains in Birmingham
2019 and now there is
First avant west coast ! Xxx
Avanti* x
Good to see a yank in the top spot of a British company, NOT!
Bye.vrigin train
Australia
I am sick of everybody banging on about virgin and FYI Diesel trains are 100x better than electrified trains that are slow with those useless automatic doors being a train enthusiast myself I know an HST is a lot more powerful than a o quality class 390, 220,221,180, 450 or 350 and if anybody on here thinks that diesel trains are bad for the environment BUT YOU EAT MEAT YOU NEED TO CHECK YOUR PRIORITIES FIRST. ELECTRIFIED TRAINS ARE NOT PROGRESS AND I DON'T EVER WANT TO SEE THAT VILE LIVERY ON A BEAUTIFUL BR TRAIN AND I HATE THIS NEW USELESS GENERATION IF CHILDREN WERE DISCIPLINED THEY MIGHT NOT BE USELESS CHAVS I HATE HOW ABNORMAL SOCIETY IS AND THAT WHEN I RETALIATE TO SOMETHING EVERYBODY GETS ANNOYED I CANT ALWAYS BE WRONG AND IF YOU CAN TAKE CRITICISM DON'T GIVE IT AT ALL.
P.S I AM STATING AN I HATE VIRGIN TRAINS CAMPAIGN SPREAD THAT ROUND THE THREE MASONS.
ANY GWR FANS PLEASE JOIN IT?
except the new class 800s are faster than the ecml hsts and will reduce journey times to Edinburgh by up to 40 minutes Maybe even 60
future is electric
but I'm guessing by this comment
you're an older chap who can't seem to accept this
+Michael Mitchell I wouldn't bother him - its probably not that he's old; just vegetarian/vegan - they always like to voice their opinions the loudest (in terms of tumblr)
This comment is complete nonsense. Jordan Lee, you don't have a clue about anything so keep quiet.
Any GWR fans you say just as the announce that there replacing all there HST'S. Cant wait till 2018 when that happens
Virgin will move to the East Coast
They took over yesterday on my birthday, they have already branded the class 91 in virgin colours.
Things that didn't happen... at least, not at the time.
Although First Great Western (Now GWR) run near me & first Worcester (buses) and they are both rubbish always late running into smaller stations (such as Ashchurch for Tewkesbury and Pershore). Yes, GWR has a nice livery and interior but the thing is with companies like First, Ryanair, etc. For cheap fares, you loose timelessness (meaning trains / planes are mostly late) basically, Ee have lost Virgin's quality for cheap prices from First.
TrainNutter is now LNER now the only group not owned by Arriva, Stagecoach and first?
@@TommyTucker110 Other than the franchises which have been taken over by the DfT (LNER, Northern, and Southeastern) or local governments (TfW and Scotrail) you have:
1) Thameslink, Southern, and Greater Northern (all one franchise) which is Govia
2) Elizabeth line which is MTR
3) c2c which is Trenitalia
4) Greater Anglia which is Abellio
5) EMR which is Abellio
6) Caledonian Sleeper which is Serco
7) Merseyrail which is Serco
Stagecoach don't have any franchises now that Virgin is gone
That went well
Why is the screen disintegrating?
That’s what I was gunna ask lol
But why did it take First 7 years?
First is a Scottish company. I agree though, Virgin should have won the bid.
1:03 You'll be going nowhere!
Ohh wow
Nnmnnnm I was knocking the door for 109,009 days for VIRGIN trains
Tories want a yank to sort out Bob Crow like Ian Mcgregor sorted out Scargill and his miners.
I have a good idea 💡 Virgin trains starting again from 2030
Avanti west coast is the successor
Virgin train should come to a
what new trains will they be buying
None, but the Vovagera will be withdrawn
Branson telling us all to vote 'remain' because he loves the Europeans. I bet he's not so keen now. Haha, brilliant.
Wouldn't surprise me if 2019/20 sees GWR taken over by Virgin and West Coast taken over by First Group.
Half right, First group keeping GWR for another 3 to 4 years.
And that stole the FUCKING intercity 125
Not going to put in a bid again? Erm ... East Coast???? lol