In the UK & Ireland you can use our weather as a training guide/coach , do decent rides during better weather spells and moderate rides in moderate weather and days off when weather is terrible , i've been doing this since 2009.
I'm an older 50yr old cyclist with a very physical job. I often get overtraining symptoms just from work so if I go for even a Z2 ride after a hard work day my HR is on the floor and 10beats lower than it should. Even 5yrs ago i could manage training and work much better than i can now. Very frustrating as i know if i had an office job my cycling would be much better. But the body only has a certain capacity to handle a certain load.
I ride through Canadian winter with hiking shoes and a pannier full of layers, wool caps, and gloves. The biggest problem is sweating up a soaking body without having swap outs and layering options. In the winter, changing layers is like changing gears. Lastly, no need for anything fancy or expensive....just quality materials.
Yeah, I do the same. I dress such that I will feel relatively cold for the fist 30 minutes, and carry extra layers and a pannier so that I can add or remove layers as needed. You have to be mindful so that all body parts feel roughly thou same temperature, because nothing sucks like sweating your butt off while your hands or feet are freezing.
It amazes me how some people do this to themselves. If I feel tired, I’m resting. But they just dig deeper, despite the clear indications that it’s not working.
I'd also swap a bike day out for some cross training, yoga, full body weights session, swimming. Something else that isn't cycling that will benefit in a holistic way.
I'm 56, was a good local pro-am racer when I was a kid, and have started riding more seriously after about a 30 year break. I ride hard 1-2 times during the work week, and some long rides on the weekend. If I'm feeling tired, I will skip or delay a hard session. I train for 3 weeks then take an easy week to recover. It is amazing how much progression I see after the recovery week. I wish I really understood recover when I was a kid doing regular 6-hour training rides.
Just toss that bananapeel far enough away so that it is out of sight. It'll be fine. Also.. I bring 2 sets of gloves. One that can go over the other so basically I have 2 levels of warmth The thin ones, the thick ones and both . (I might even bring another set of thin ones if I get a lot of rain) And layering is important when the temperature shifts a lot. Last Sunday temperature went from 8c in the morning to 20+ in the afternoon.
Most people with carbon frames know not to put them on racks that contact the frame. Generally the options for cf frames are on a roof rack that secures the back wheel and front forks, on a roof rack that secures the (non-carbon) handlebars and (non-carbon) saddle, or on the back seat.
Totally agree on the technology of clothing having moved on so much in recent years. However, for a long Audax, of say 400km - 600km, layers are still king. Over that length of time the ability to peel off or add layers to suit the conditions is invaluable.
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 My record is 5 layers, undershirt, jersey, wind shell, down vest, and rain jacket. And I was violently shivering on a descent in the cold, foggy morning wearing all of them.
@@oldanslo But at that point, I would argue that it’s no longer cycling, it’s a military-style survival challenge. Would you not think about getting an indoor bike or trainer? Much safer, no ice, less likely to get sick. I would also argue that the benefit of extreme weather rides like that is very poor.
Very true too much hard training will make you slower. In 1991 I was racing for a Dutch team and their group training rides were around 20-25kph. But the Rondes were always around 42-50kph !!
"Why Cycling Fast Makes You Slow"?? It's not cycling fast that makes you slow but failing to sufficiently recover between training sessions, and training sessions can be fast, medium, or slow. What makes a session a training session is that it's an overload relative to your normal strain load (time integral of your stress function based on your FTP) AND that it's then followed by adequate recovery.
I think some of the banana skin thing comes from MTB races, because MTB races used to be long and in forests, they asked you not to throw peel because of the quantity of rides that would be throwing peel in a confined area .... could be wrong though
I think it's just a person trying to be virtuous. Maybe they thought it wasn't a banana. If they knew it was, shit up and keep riding. People like to tell others off so they feel good about themselves. I've had a cyclist tell me to get off the road because there was a bike path off to the side of it. Like...some people are just f***ing tools. Fair comment for mass events though. Especially when it's a commercial enterprise and they should be responsible for ensuring any space they use to make money is left in the same state or better
Consider not interrupting your cohost and guests so often. People come here to listen to the guests. Your channel just the conduit as many other could be.
Gonna have to disagree with you on 'if you don't like riding in winter you don't like riding'. I don't like coming back from a ride and taking 2hrs to feel my fingers again...even when I'm wearing skiing gloves. Winter just isnt amenable for some. I don't want to ride when I'm freezing the entire ride and not enjoy it. Arguably I could say people that ride in winter don't like cycling they are just sadistic and cycling is just a tool to achieve this for them 🤣😁 Come and ride in 40 degree celsius weather! Coz anyone that doesnt like riding in it doesn't like riding 😙 ya see my point lol
Yes I agree. Winter cycling in blue sky can be nice but not in Ireland where we rarely get blue skies. Cycling should be enjoyable, not a miserable endurance fest. I’ve had rides in Ireland where my fingers have been frozen and it’s just awful and yes I have expensive gloves but the whole thing is a disaster. I’m sticking to my indoor bike in winter for the most part.
If you feel cold, you are not layering adequately. Thick gloves will not make your hands warm if your core is cold. You don't have to ride in winter if you don't want to, obviously, but if the problem is that you are feeling cold then look at your clothing. You can go a long way with a ski jacket, ski gloves (or bar mitts) and hiking boots.
@@Frostbiker Ireland is one of the toughest countries to try to cycle in winter. It’s a very cold, damp winter, unlike the colder blue sky Canadian winter for example. My brother lived in Canada for a few years and he told me this. The dry cold is much more pleasant even if it’s colder whereas the damp cold of Ireland gets into your bones. So nobody can look down on anyone else for not wanting to cycle in cold, wet conditions. It’s bad for the bike (wet, salted roads) and it’s bad for you.
What you love you're kids don't have to. And you don't have to love or do other sports beyond with your kids. Do you kiss other women other than your wife to show diversity is good? Lol It's far more important than your kids see you passionate about something and that hard work offer rewards and to love doing things you love etc etc Introduce them to all sports sure. But at some point you need to let them do what they love or push them in doing what they are good at. The joys of parenting. Maybe build cycling into their lives as a form of transport. Then they are developing a possible love of it or at the very least consider it a good form of transport instead of cars etc and at some point are strong riders so that if they decide to take it up as a sport they are in a good place. If not...they're strong enough to cycle as a viable form of transport. Not everyone should be a 'cyclist'. But everyone should ride bikes. If that makes sense
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In the UK & Ireland you can use our weather as a training guide/coach , do decent rides during better weather spells and moderate rides in moderate weather and days off when weather is terrible , i've been doing this since 2009.
This is pretty much what I do, if the weather is terrible, I will have an extra rest day, works wonders.
I'm an older 50yr old cyclist with a very physical job. I often get overtraining symptoms just from work so if I go for even a Z2 ride after a hard work day my HR is on the floor and 10beats lower than it should. Even 5yrs ago i could manage training and work much better than i can now. Very frustrating as i know if i had an office job my cycling would be much better. But the body only has a certain capacity to handle a certain load.
"and Im getting worse.." classic, know this !!
I ride through Canadian winter with hiking shoes and a pannier full of layers, wool caps, and gloves. The biggest problem is sweating up a soaking body without having swap outs and layering options. In the winter, changing layers is like changing gears. Lastly, no need for anything fancy or expensive....just quality materials.
Yeah, I do the same. I dress such that I will feel relatively cold for the fist 30 minutes, and carry extra layers and a pannier so that I can add or remove layers as needed. You have to be mindful so that all body parts feel roughly thou same temperature, because nothing sucks like sweating your butt off while your hands or feet are freezing.
Dales easy day should be a total rest day . The hard days should be easy and make your race days and club rides the hard days . Rest is so important
It amazes me how some people do this to themselves. If I feel tired, I’m resting. But they just dig deeper, despite the clear indications that it’s not working.
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 yep and then wonder why they end up sick 🤧. Your body needs time to recover
@@Gixer750pilot I think they see tiredness as weakness and weakness requires more training….
I'd also swap a bike day out for some cross training, yoga, full body weights session, swimming. Something else that isn't cycling that will benefit in a holistic way.
I'm 56, was a good local pro-am racer when I was a kid, and have started riding more seriously after about a 30 year break. I ride hard 1-2 times during the work week, and some long rides on the weekend. If I'm feeling tired, I will skip or delay a hard session. I train for 3 weeks then take an easy week to recover. It is amazing how much progression I see after the recovery week. I wish I really understood recover when I was a kid doing regular 6-hour training rides.
Just toss that bananapeel far enough away so that it is out of sight. It'll be fine.
Also.. I bring 2 sets of gloves. One that can go over the other so basically I have 2 levels of warmth The thin ones, the thick ones and both . (I might even bring another set of thin ones if I get a lot of rain)
And layering is important when the temperature shifts a lot. Last Sunday temperature went from 8c in the morning to 20+ in the afternoon.
Most people with carbon frames know not to put them on racks that contact the frame. Generally the options for cf frames are on a roof rack that secures the back wheel and front forks, on a roof rack that secures the (non-carbon) handlebars and (non-carbon) saddle, or on the back seat.
Totally agree on the technology of clothing having moved on so much in recent years. However, for a long Audax, of say 400km - 600km, layers are still king. Over that length of time the ability to peel off or add layers to suit the conditions is invaluable.
You’ll be peeling a lot then. In my experience, 3 layers is pretty much all you would ever need.
@@paddymurphy-oconnor8255 My record is 5 layers, undershirt, jersey, wind shell, down vest, and rain jacket. And I was violently shivering on a descent in the cold, foggy morning wearing all of them.
@@oldanslo But at that point, I would argue that it’s no longer cycling, it’s a military-style survival challenge. Would you not think about getting an indoor bike or trainer? Much safer, no ice, less likely to get sick. I would also argue that the benefit of extreme weather rides like that is very poor.
Very true too much hard training will make you slower. In 1991 I was racing for a Dutch team and their group training rides were around 20-25kph. But the Rondes were always around 42-50kph !!
Banana peels are messy. Whether using a plastic bag to bring it home or toss it may be debatable. I toss it. But I never toss Gels or bisquit wraps.
6 layers to keep warm; "because the kit was shit" 🤣🤣🤣
"Why Cycling Fast Makes You Slow"?? It's not cycling fast that makes you slow but failing to sufficiently recover between training sessions, and training sessions can be fast, medium, or slow. What makes a session a training session is that it's an overload relative to your normal strain load (time integral of your stress function based on your FTP) AND that it's then followed by adequate recovery.
You may have a pro bike, but if you dont have the time to rest like a pro, dont train like one..
Great video
I think some of the banana skin thing comes from MTB races, because MTB races used to be long and in forests, they asked you not to throw peel because of the quantity of rides that would be throwing peel in a confined area .... could be wrong though
I think it's just a person trying to be virtuous. Maybe they thought it wasn't a banana. If they knew it was, shit up and keep riding. People like to tell others off so they feel good about themselves. I've had a cyclist tell me to get off the road because there was a bike path off to the side of it. Like...some people are just f***ing tools.
Fair comment for mass events though. Especially when it's a commercial enterprise and they should be responsible for ensuring any space they use to make money is left in the same state or better
Consider not interrupting your cohost and guests so often. People come here to listen to the guests. Your channel just the conduit as many other could be.
Gonna have to disagree with you on 'if you don't like riding in winter you don't like riding'. I don't like coming back from a ride and taking 2hrs to feel my fingers again...even when I'm wearing skiing gloves. Winter just isnt amenable for some. I don't want to ride when I'm freezing the entire ride and not enjoy it.
Arguably I could say people that ride in winter don't like cycling they are just sadistic and cycling is just a tool to achieve this for them 🤣😁
Come and ride in 40 degree celsius weather! Coz anyone that doesnt like riding in it doesn't like riding 😙 ya see my point lol
Yes I agree. Winter cycling in blue sky can be nice but not in Ireland where we rarely get blue skies. Cycling should be enjoyable, not a miserable endurance fest. I’ve had rides in Ireland where my fingers have been frozen and it’s just awful and yes I have expensive gloves but the whole thing is a disaster. I’m sticking to my indoor bike in winter for the most part.
If you feel cold, you are not layering adequately. Thick gloves will not make your hands warm if your core is cold. You don't have to ride in winter if you don't want to, obviously, but if the problem is that you are feeling cold then look at your clothing. You can go a long way with a ski jacket, ski gloves (or bar mitts) and hiking boots.
@@Frostbiker Ireland is one of the toughest countries to try to cycle in winter. It’s a very cold, damp winter, unlike the colder blue sky Canadian winter for example. My brother lived in Canada for a few years and he told me this. The dry cold is much more pleasant even if it’s colder whereas the damp cold of Ireland gets into your bones. So nobody can look down on anyone else for not wanting to cycle in cold, wet conditions. It’s bad for the bike (wet, salted roads) and it’s bad for you.
That club mate should be posted on all cycling pages. Cycling meme accounts included 😏
so bad, the balls on him
What you love you're kids don't have to. And you don't have to love or do other sports beyond with your kids. Do you kiss other women other than your wife to show diversity is good? Lol
It's far more important than your kids see you passionate about something and that hard work offer rewards and to love doing things you love etc etc
Introduce them to all sports sure. But at some point you need to let them do what they love or push them in doing what they are good at. The joys of parenting.
Maybe build cycling into their lives as a form of transport. Then they are developing a possible love of it or at the very least consider it a good form of transport instead of cars etc and at some point are strong riders so that if they decide to take it up as a sport they are in a good place. If not...they're strong enough to cycle as a viable form of transport.
Not everyone should be a 'cyclist'. But everyone should ride bikes. If that makes sense
I bet he forgot to mention his 3 gym sessions
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That stache!!! ❤️💪🏻
Bloody hell!! Carry your banana peel out!!!
Carry a stinky, sweaty peel in your jersey pocket where it coats the pocket in banana and anything else in that pocket? Plus it stains the jersey.
Shit man you need to deal with the tache
Who the fk are you to tell him to sort out his tache?
@@Ivan-oh6ugfree advice mate, I'd be surprised if no one on a group spin didn't slag off either.
You've got mud on your lip... 😉
Never ride fast on a bike. It's just dangerous for yourself and everyone around you.
lol, lmao even
How many people have cyclists killed in your town in the past five years? How many people have motorists killed in the same time period?
@@Frostbiker More than the number of people who have died riding the indoor trainer.
Real shame people can't use an indoor trainer to commute, buy groceries, or go to a cafe, innit?
Get a new mate! You secured it together? Enough said. Agreed. Block and delete.