Thank you for this. I am English, Scots-Irish, and German. It amazes me that Europeans don't understand that America is a country of immigrants, yet they sometimes think we are ignorant when it comes to history. Well done. I enjoyed the video. Merry Christmas.
Nonsense. Europeans know fine well that the United States is a nation of immigrants. Where do you get that from? We also know that you are not English, or Irish, or Scotch or whatever, just because you have a slither of dna. You know nothing of the culture.
Makes me remember when a friend went to Scotland and Shen she came back, of course, I asked all about it- she said: "It's a country full of people who look like you." That was enough to settle any doubts for me that I am part of that heritage.
Great insights! I'm a German-American (ancestors came to US in the 1850s-60s), but have been living in Germany for the last 20 years. Contemporary Germans rarely understand why we are interested in cultural heritage from Europe. You've explained it very well!
I appreciate the feedback. It helps to travel and really experience life in another country. I am affiliated with SBS Swiss Business School in Zurich, so for the last decade, I have spent time working there. That's such a diverse area of the country, so I have met very few Swiss people.
This reminds me of an unfortunately common conundrum involving the European attitude toward us Americans: we're often told we have no culture or heritage, but are then scolded and chastised when we make attempts to discover and celebrate our culture and heritage. It's silly, to say the least.
I am Scottish. By all means discover your culture and heritage. But please, not to the extent that you want to lecture the modern inhabitants of those countries - whose culture has evolved and changed significantly since your ancestors left centuries ago - about what you think their culture “should” be like. And do try not to romanticise the past, be honest about our history and read some serious historians (eg Tom Devine - currently Scotland’s greatest historian).
Hi, I am a “Real Scot” from Scotland and my mother was a Scottish Canadian ,her mother emigrated to Canada after WW1.I am as of June 2024 considered to be a Canadian citizen because my mother was born there.One of my great,great,great uncles a Gibson emigrated to Ohio in the mid to late 1800s and was the manager of a coal mine there and he became an American citizen and I have a copy of his American passport.I have relatives all over Canada and I most likely share DNA with hundreds of Americans as well.Some of our bravest and best left these isles for America and Canada and I am one Scot who loves to hear how our Scottish people prospered in these countries.I do know that for such a small country our people made a massive impact on these countries and did not crow about it.I for one love to hear how Americans,Canadians are still proud of their Scottish ancestry and so they should be.They are part of the well educated ,intrepid,bravest and best people that left these shores.So Americans with Scottish Ancestry be proud of it just look at what your forefathers did and what their descendants continue to do.I have also heard Appalachians refer to a paper bag as a “poke” and that word definitely originated in Scotland.
@r.johnston919 R.Johnston, you have no idea how grateful I am to read your message. One person just asked why I would focus on my Scottish ancestry when I have an English surname. He doesn't know that I'm fifty percent Scottish and only 9 percent English. Yes. Poke is a word for a bag around here. I'm a descendant of Stuarts and Stewarts, Campbells, MacCammies, Johnstons, Vaus, Morris, Grahams, Cunningham, McGaghey, and MacSwain Vaus was turned into Vann in Virginia. Vaus is a Wigton family. Thanks for writing!
@ Hi Barry, Thanks for your kind reply,I would add that both President Trump and his Deputy Vance both have Scottish ancestry and I wish them all the best with their task to make America again.
They seem to think that someone from north Africa that migrated and is now a citizen of Scotland is Scottish and not an American who's ancestors were run out of the highlands or left for economic hardship hundreds of years ago.
Who seems to think that?? Nobody I know in Scotland, or in wider Britain, considers foreigners as Scots, especially those whose physical features are so markedly different from ours. Our corrupt, WEF compliant, tyrannical government may give these parasites passports, but not a single _proper_ Brit considers them our equals. Not one bit.
Yes that’s correct, the black man from yont Nyanga who moves to Scotland and integrates into Scottish society is more Scottish than an American who’ may have Scottish ancestors, who left the country years ago. Let’s get this right you and the rest of your kind are American, you are not Scottish. Disparaging and untrue remarks about the Scottish educational system from an American is laughable considering the state of education in the US population, the vast majority of whom, don’t have passports , have little to no knowledge of world politics/geography and think that The US is the greatest nation in the world
I'm an enrolled tribal member. I look forward to the day that I can inform a 'real' Scot that I am also of Scottish descent and yes, that's my history too.
@@BarryVann thank you so much for all that you share and do I enjoy your channel so very much and I think it’s just amazing. Would you ever consider sharing more of your knowledge about how the indigenous people here lived and married Europeans? I too have Native American heritage as well as European.
We love to go to these games. I'm hoping to go to Gatlinburg, Tulsa, or Batesville this year. My Dad's people consider themselves Scottish and my Mom's people consider themselves Irish, even though both sides are mostly from Northern Ireland. I think religion has a lot to do with it. I'm Scots-Irish, or is it Scotch-Irish....Scotch to me is a whiskey. You'ins is common here in the Ozarks,,,and frankly, it sounded strange to me when we moved up here from Memphis. English history is American history. I find it interesting how the Welsh seem to get left out of these discussions. While stationed in East Anglia I was also surprised at the opinions of other parts of the UK (Scotland, Wales, Ulster, and Cornwall) that I heard from the English in that area. Some of them really thought they were superior to other people from the same cotton-pickin' island. Merry Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Terry, you are spot on. Memphis has a lot of deep South influences, but it's possible to follow the vocabulary of the Ozarks along the migration route! Merry Christmas, brother!
YES, Neighbor, it's OUR History TOO. From my moms side which was Irish, Scots/Irish, Dutch, Welsh and having a Mc prefix, it's yours and mine as well and HEAVY DUTY too. I choke up every time I hear 'Scotland The Brave' and have for a long time. We are Blessed and WELL Blessed! And as far as YOUNS goes, all the natives here tend to compact words into one LONG breathworth instead of breaking everything down to individual words. It ALL runs together. So yall have a WONDERFUL next couple of days and we're still waiting for our Savior to show up and He won't come out of d.c either! God Bless Yall and ALL Yall!
Merry Christmas, Lewie, I think he is not far from us. I had lunch with an old friend yesterday, and he was expressing some worry about the anti-Christ lurking around the scene. That doesn't scare me, for I know He has it all under control. His will be done! Merry Christmas, brother!
@@BarryVann The ALMIGTHTY has, will and will be on the throne when this end comes. These times will sure be interesting to see how it all plays out and who does what. Merry Christmas Brother Neighbor and God Bless ALL Yall!
I've been on the journey of discovering my ancestory for a long while. Long because records are difficult to come by the further back you go. My ancestors around 9th century were Viking. Who settled in the north and became a part of clan Gunn. We started farming. Eventually we became reivers. Guarding the borders from Anglo-Saxon and the English. The way records tell it we couldn't have been farming much more than one hundred years. Records say we served Ulster for roughly six hundred years on the borders. Before our family immigrated to the Colonies. I was really humbled by all the wars fought in Ulster. Many died defending there homeland. It really amazes me that I was born at all, due to the history. Now I have a deeper respect and appreciation for my ancestors. Live it to be your best! To all my kinsman and friends.
Thanks, Charlene, it's been wonderful so far. I got to talk with my son for a while today. All is well when I know my kids are good! Merry Christmas to you, too! Barry
Last and most important part of my research migration between Scotland and Ireland continued throughout the 1600s . The Irish Anglicans and the Irish Catholic fought over land and sovereignty. A wave of Scottish immigrants to ulster following famine in the 1690s led to Scottish Presbyterians becaming the majority community, despite their numbers , however they are Daniel political power . Sarting in the early 1600d , the group of scots called themselves scotches- irish began migrating to North America in large numbers. Although new residents of ulster were Scottish, living along side the Irish led both groups to influence each other , beyond their shared Gaelic and Celtic heritage. Before the American revolution more scots - irish migrated to the continent more than any other group . At least 250 , 000 scots - irish lived in the American colonies by the 1770s . Many of those individuals made their way to the Appalachian mountains. Appalachian region became a raven for those who had suffered under oppressive British rule. During revolutionary war, many of scots - irish immigrants played role in securing American victory. The battle of kings mountain in 1780, North Carolina, descendants of scots - irish, immigrants to Tennessee and Virginia were in defeating loyalist forces. President Roosevelt referred to the victory “ turning point of American revolution “ . Today, North Carolina has largest percentage of scots - irish ancestors than any other state, Tennessee. Scots - irish made the defining contribution to Appalachian culture identity. Blue grass music , with strange reliance on story telling and. L
As an Irish Catholic man whose family were in the county of Donegal in the province of Ulster. The British decided to partition the six counties in the province of Ulster who were predominantly Scottish protestants and leave the other three counties in the province of Ulster in the mainly catholic other 26 counties to ensure that the protestant majority in the six counties were able to suppress the minority catholic population in refusing to allow them to have access to government housing and more importantly the right to vote as the main Catholic City of Derry was gerrymandered to stop the council ever having a catholic majority in the elections I'm happy to see you are learning about your history but I highly recommend that you have a good dig into the relevant history of both Scotland and the plantation of the province of Ulster by the English where they were the same people who had thrown the Scottish off their own land and then moved the problem in Scotland over to the northern part of Ireland
@@KieranKelly-o9s Kieran, thanks for providing some historical context to the Catholic-Protestant issues in Northern Ireland. I've actually written quite a bit about the 17th century and the politics of ethnicity and conflict that were begun by the Tudors and intensified by the Stuarts. Google In Search of Ulster Scots Land.
What you say is essentially true. Most of the planters in Ulster were lowland Scots and were a mixture of Protestants and Presbyterians. The English Crown wanted rid of these troublesome Scots and also supress the native Catholic Irish in Ulster and seize their land. In Ulster as non conforming Protestants the Presbyterians were supressed by the penal laws just like the native Catholics and a few hundred thousand of them left for North America. Interestingly in America they were enthusiastic supporters of the American revolution. They were also strong supporters of the 1798 rebellion against the Crown in Ireland which was brutally put down the British. After that they were effectively bought off by the British and became Unionists and Loyalists in Northern Ireland and as you say discrimination was rife. However today an Irish Nationalist Republican is First Minister of Northern Ireland and the mayors of the two largest cities are Nationalist or Alliance and the day of Unionist and Loyalist political dominance is over.
What seems to be overlooked or forgotten is they also put plantations in the highlands at the same time. One was not successful and the second was partially successful. The government wanted to separate the links between the highlanders and the Irish.
@BarryVann hi there Barry and I really appreciate your response. I would be very interested in the chance of reading your book so if you can let me know the details of it then I can order it from my extremely good Birmingham library network and I can let you know what I can get from it Once again thanks Kieran Kelly Birmingham England but I am most definitely NOT English but I'm an FBI. A foreign born Irish man!!
I'm glad I found this. Merry Christmas Barry. BTW, my sister, bro in law and I meet up yearly at Stone Mountain at "the games". It started as a one time event that is now yearly for many years.
Awesome! I hope you'll stay connected. I'm dedicated to helping folks nurture a healthy respect for their place in the larger cultural context of modern life.
Oh, this is so true. I’ve found that over 80 % of my ancestors were from England and Scotland, family after family, clan after clan can be traced back there. The early settlers of America were second sons of nobility, members of the royal court for generations. Since researching and studying history and ancestry, I’ve discovered that Americans have some of the most diverse history on the planet today. Love your work and wisdom Dr. Barry. Signed, “I should have studied this field when I was at university.“. .😮😮😮
@@BarryVann Sorry, Barry, That may have been your experience of the people you had in your classes but as I child in Scotland in 1950's I was definitely taught Scottish History. Mine was not the only school to do so.
I've generally found that this is because you would have said something to the effect that you are Scottish or God forbid that you are also Scotch. When in fact you are an American with SOME genealogical links to Scotland.
Thank you for your wonderful cultural channel dr Barry . I gathered main information about topic you mentioned briefly first of all I looked up for meaning perspective means interrelation in which subject or it’s parts are mentally viewed . I read interesting article written in 2017 , titled did the Irish and scots get along ?. The relationship between the Irish and scots has been complex and varied throughout history, shaped by cultural, political, social factors. Historical context 1. Shared origins : the scots and irish shared Celtic roots , there has been cultural exchange between the two . Many scots trace ancestry to Gaelic speaking settlers from Ireland, particularly during the early medieval periods . 2. Conflict and cooperation: while there were periods of cooperation, especially in trade and cultural exchange, there were also conflict. The Scott clans often engaged in wars with each other, these conflicts sometimes involved Irish clans as well. During the 17 th century, the English crown attempts to impose control over both Ireland and Scotland led to tensions. 3. Religious differences: the Protestant reformation created further divisions . In Scotland, Protestantism became dominant, while Ireland remained predominantly Catholic. This religious divide contributed to differing national identities and conflicts, particularly during the 17 th and 18 th centuries. 4. Modern relations: in more recent times , particularly from 20 th century onward, there has been a greater emphasis on shared heritage and cooperation, especially in context of cultural events , sports, education . The Irish and Scottish communities often celebrate their Celtic heritage together.
@khatoon170........type in..... the human colonization of ireland and scotland | irish origenes | use your dna to rediscover your irish origin.........although it would be gall/gaull no the later fabricated gael.......no scots came from ireland. the name scotland is no that auld circa 1200s. from day one any migration was from scotland to ireland....there is no such thing as celtic heritage..
I lived with my mom, her mother and her step-father until I was 5. My grandmother's mother was English but her mother was Scottish. My grandmother ran her words together and so would I. Well remember when I was in the first grade and said "thismorning" as one word. So many words I heard were together when they weren't. I still have to catch myself from not doing that and I was also an elementary teacher. My mom's paternal line was predominately Scottish, Irish and Welsh but she didn't run words together. Thank you for your video and have a Merry Christmas!! Just have a wee bit of eggnog.😊🌲🌲🌲🌲
Well done to you for tackling this often difficult subject. There are endless mini disputes and fractures between people on this subject, even in Scotland itself and the rift in families over allegiance can be quite devastating. One of my uncles has betrayed his Irish/catholic roots and even as his brother lies dying they will not speak. But ignorance of history is never surprising- we can never or rarely grasp the full picture and few of us are given full accounts of our often unpleasant past. I often ask an Englishman to tell me the slightest thing about the Irish potatoe famine - they are always ( even educated people) ignorant.
@terencequinn2682 Terrence, I greatly appreciate your thoughtful feedback. When I lived in Scotland and was chatting with a local minister about going to Northern Ireland, he told me not to tell Protestants that two of my great grandmothers were Potato Famine babies named Teague and Shahan, he advised me not to do that because they're Catholic families. Many anti Catholic ideas came with Ulster Scots to Southern Appalachia. I could go on, but I'll spare you. Thanks, brother.
@@BarryVannThankfully that nonsense is gone from the Republic of Ireland. People of the Protestant faith are very well integrated here and some of our greatest heroes were Protestants like Wolfe Tone whom I've mentioned in other comments. In fact Wolfe Tone is so important that he gets a complete grave yard dedicated to himself in Co Kildare and there are commemorations at his grave side annually. Wolfe Tone and Michael Collins are perhaps the two greatest Irishmen to ever live, one a Protestant and the other a Catholic.
I’m a Hawai’ian descendant of Scots-Irish who came from Co. Cork, N.Ireland through Canada, Michigan and Rochester, New York. Last year was my first time at a Highland Games here in Hawai’i. It was very inclusive. I’m half Asian, a quarter Polynesian and just a quarter Scots-Irish. I remember tracing origins of country music dynamics to Scotland through the Appalachias. What a beautiful and rich history you have. My curiosity was from hearing Dolly’s voice and others who use some Sean nós dynamics. Subscribed and look forward to more content!
Dr Barry I sincerely apologize for the confusion caused by my recent research regarding ( topic ) . As I read there are more than 20 million Americans today have scotch- Irish ancestry. Since their earlier arrival began to call themselves “ scotch - irish” to distinguish themselves from the newer poor , predominantly Catholic immigrants. Generally referred to these Ulster Scots simply as “ Irish “ so new comer adopted the term “ scotch - irish “ to distinguish themselves from the native irish . Today there are more than 30 Americans with scots - irish ancestor. Many people left Scotland during the time of the ulster plantation of James 1 . The scots - irish have been immigrating. Much of what we consider to “ Appalachian culture “ actually has it roots in 1600s Scotland. The USA has most descendant people of Irish descent, while in Australia those of Irish descent are higher percentage of population than any other country outside Ireland. There are very interesting article lee mc Rae college written in 2022 , by Emily Webb , titled ( the mountains : the scots Irish heritage in Appalachia ) . Writer mentioned Scotland at the time , of king James 1 of England. He was attempting to solidify his rule over Ireland and encourage the spread of Protestantism in Catholic country. One of his methods for quelling rebellion was to seize land from Gaelic ( native ) in Irish in area known as ulster and make it property of the British crown . The goal od this scheme called the plantation of ulster . “ this was dead -end od scots irish in north Ireland, because they were powerless , said director of Stephenson center Kathy “ . New inhabitants of Ireland couldn’t own land and they were required to tithe to the Anglican Church of England not national Church of Scotland, which was Presbyterian church.
Indeed! I graduated from the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville and noticed vocabulary and accent similarities to Appalachia. Later, I traced many of them back Ulster. One of my interests is on belief systems, so I wrote some on that topic, too. Checkout place names across the upper South.
Scots Irish were Scottish people who went to the ulster plantation in Northern Ireland. The ulster plantation was England’s attempt at social engineering. Most “scotch Irish” were more likely Scot’s, English, welsh, Dutch and Protestant northern Irish who emigrated to America. They weren’t Irish. My grandfathers family were scotch irish, but they emigrated to the maritime in Canada rather than the Appalachian’s. This is historical fact, not family lore.
@@AnastasiaRomanov-w9x Yes, indeed. Professor David George Mullan of Cape Breton University wrote a nice endorsement of my book In Search of Ulster Scots Land. Eastern Canada is called Nova Scotia for a good reason.
I'm Ulster / Scots. Irish side, from Tyrone, Scottish side, from Glenelg. Don't ever lose that connection. You may not have been born here in Scotland but our DNA and the blood of our ancients has travelled the same route. My fathers name was Eamon O'Carroll, my mothers name Joan Weir Kinniburgh MacIntyre.
@cooldaddy2877 Why don't you explain what it is that you think Americans don't understand? It seems to me they are trying to understand. Of course, I'm responding to a troll that can't use a real name. What makes you cool?
@@BarryVann Haha. Well you for a start. You have an English surname, so why are you talking about Scotland/Ireland. Yes, they may be trying to understand but you never will unless you live in those countries. I do agree with you regarding citizenship...but thats the modern world. I am not a troll but a real person who lives in the same country that my dna is. As for the "cool", I used to be a dj and that was my name. Have a great Christmas and New Year...oh sorry "Holiday Season".
@cooldaddy2877 You have no idea who you are talking to, cool man. I have a PhD. in historical geography earned at the University of Glasgow. I lived in Dunning, Scotland, and taught in Dundee. You clearly don't understand genetics and simple math. Each of us has four great grandparents, 16 double great parents, and 32 triple greats. Do you know the names of my ancestors? I have no interest in the current political landscape in the UK. My interests are only centered on understanding the culture of southern Appalachia and what attributes were brought here from other places. Attitudes like yours will not engender sympathy from us when your experiment with mass immigration fails.
I think finding out where your ancestors came from is bloody marvellous. I’m a Scottish lass who did a my heritage DNA & my results were; 83% Irish, Scottish & Welsh 11.4% Greek & South Italian 5.6% Baltic . I knew that my Dads family came over from Ireland but never knew which parts but have discovered they originated from County Cork & Dublin. Ive been looking at all my DNA matches in Ireland & paying particular attention to surnames etc anyway it’s fascinating & I’d encourage everyone to do one .
Many thanks for the message, Parker! Your 94% for Scotland and Ireland beat my 67%! If you are interested in surnames, I have done two seasons of about 100 videos on surnames found in the early American South; many of them trace back to Ireland and Scotland. Kind regards, Barry Vann
Merry Christmas, Barry. Great discussion of people in the old country expressing American's views on their origins. I grew up in the Chicago area and lived in Chicago for a number of years. It is perhaps the most ethnically Balkanized city in the country, and people know that when you're asked "What are you?", the answer is expected to be your ethnicity. It was an adjustment for me when I moved to NC and found out that the same question here refers to your religious affiliation. So, I find it refreshing when people here embrace their ethnicity. Except I've yet to find an American Scots-Irish person who is interested in trying Haggis!
@luisvelasco316 Luis, I have eaten haggis twice, but I don't think I will a third time. Thanks for the perspective. I spent half of my youth in Detroit, where ethnity is stressed like it is in Chicago. Merry Christmas!
Bravo! I have heard many Irish disparaging the whole idea of an :"Irish-American," and mocking their ethnic claims. This is such nonsense. For one thing, if it were not for the passionate support of expatriate Irish (Eamonn DeValera, for one) it is doubtful there would even be an independent Irish nation. And who was it exactly, who pulled off the heroic Catalpa rescue? The attachment of Irish expatriates for their homeland has always been one of the Irish nation's most valuable assets.
Last part of my research the conclusion there have been periods of tensions and conflicts , there have also been significant cultural ties and periods of cooperation between the Irish and scots . Today , the relationship is generally positive, marked by shared history and cultural appreciation. Jenny Eeles reacher ( 2017 - present ) mentioned in same article Scotland and Ireland shared fenian heroes of folklore, such as : Finn maccumhail, diarmuid , cuchulain . The bard who related those tales was Ossian, Scottish Gaelic oral folklore, collected in the mid - 19 th century, is full of tales of the hero conall . The battles tended to take place between Eirinn ( Ireland) and lochlann ( Scandinavia ) with Scotland as the battle ground . They shared common tongue . Scots Gaelic was called irische in literature and Act of parliaments until the 19 th century. The scots were also the Irish faction that came back to inhabit the west coast or Scotland in about 400 ce , the native of mainland being picts . I hope you like my research. Merry Christmas, happy new year. Good luck to you your family friends.
@@LUIS-ox1bv lol..the irish tongue......type in.......the human colonization of ireland and scotland | irish origenes | use your dna to rediscover your irish origenes .......although it would be gauls/galls no the later fabricated gaels...
1631 on my Dad's English via Normandy Dunning side! And 1642 on my Mom's Scottish via Flanders Douglas side! Related by blood to King James 6th of Scotland aka King James the 1st of England. Thanks Cromwell! Yes, he/they moved to Catholic Maryland and raised tobacco! Proud right or wrong! 😂
@BarryVann Lol. Hmmm. Interesting. Our coat of arms implies many "deeds" for the king of England in Barr(?)Sinisters, 13 in total! Dad always said we were tax collectors 🙄😂 Don't know what that actually implies but Dunning is also a verb in getting money out of someone who owes you. Fascinating stuff genealogy!
I'm Irish from Ireland and I can tell you that anyone here who knows their history acknowledges and appreciates our cousins and relatives in North America. When the Irish, especially the native Catholic Irish went to America they had a tough start and faced much discrimination but they worked hard and each generation built on the work of the previous and now they are one of the wealthiest and most successful immigrant groups in America and we're proud of them. As for the present day Scots well I'm afraid they sold their souls to the Sasanach a long time ago.
@@Parker_Douglas In Ireland we're proud Europeans and have no problem sharing sovereignty with our European neighbours. In fact it's made us very wealthy. Since 2022 the Scotish parliament has to get permission from the Westminster parliament to even hold another independence referendum and of course that parliament is dominated by English MPs who would likely turn down that request. Scotland could have been sitting on a sovereign wealth fund the size of Norways if it had retained control of its North Sea oil revenues instead of it been squandered by an English dominated parliament. The bottom line is the Scots have lost control of their destiny and despite a majority Scotish voted to remain in the EU the much larger English leave vote trumped it.
So, the thing is, over this side of the pond, we're often also a complete mix. I'm English, Scots, Irish, also Italian and Jewish. And there's probably more. When Biden announced that he was 'Irish' and Brits should be worried, we just thought, stupid old man. The fact is, I'm more Irish than him. It's where my lapsed Catholicism comes from. I consider myself English (based on who I support in rugby and football) because that's where I did most of my growing up. It doesn't make me want to relive historical slights and wrongs. By the way, I now live in Scotland - a country that has been very good to me - it's where I have brought up my kids - who identify as Scots. I would support an independent Scotland, as soon as they make it a viable option. But this isn't because my Scots roots (Graham Menteith) yearn for a fake Braveheart Hollywood moment. It's because Scotland has all the resources and talent to become an amazing country, if we're not shackled to the City of London. And no, this doesn't make me any less of a proud Englishman. As Americans, you need to be thoughtful about expressing your identity and roots and how toxic this might be. How many people in Ireland died because of American support of the IRA? How much suffering has been caused in Israel and Palestine because of orthodox US Jews wishing to prove their chutzpah? What does it achieve for you? A few free drinks in your local? And remember how you come across. You are, to us, 100% Americans. So that's how we see you. If I were American I would be very proud of who I was and what my country had achieved. Yes, there are bad bits of history, but who doesn't have those? Plus, the kindness and decency of so many Americans is something to behold. Other values like initiative, hard work and resilience are why America is so successful. Many outsiders think that you could do with thinking about what you have as a shared identity together, rather than differences and grievances.
@matthewwilliams8969 I appreciate your rather lengthy detatchment of Americans from identifying with a particular British identity that's rife with political slights and oppression. No worries, mate. I'm not interested in what has been going on in the isles over the past two hundred years unless it affects America. My point is that up to a point, your history is also our history and vice versa. If you don't share that sentiment, I'm fine with it. I can't change who I am, and I can't take responsibility for people's feelings because of my existence and opinion, for I intend no disrespect. I would never tell a person to hide who they are because it might offend someone. From what I see in the media, people on your side of the pond are in jail for expressing opinions. I hope that's just Hollywood Braveheart mythmaking and not true. Happy New Year!
As an Irishman I disagree. Every second family in Ireland has familial connections with North America. Millions of our people went there often under extremely harsh conditions and in extreme poverty. Through sheer hard work their descendants have become very successful and we're proud of them. They are part of the Irish diaspora and we like to see them come back to their native homeland to trace their roots. I meet quite a few Irish Americans in work and personal travel and by and large they're great people and proud of their history and Irish roots and why shouldn't they be!
@zipperzoey2041 Thanks for the support! In America, Irish Protestants (the bulk of people) married Irish Catholics. My Shahan and Teague great grandmothers were born to Potato Famine families in America. They left because they were starving. They didn't hate their kin back home. No doubt, they didn't want to go to a land so far away that they'd never see their parents, sisters, and brothers again.
@@BarryVann I see a lot of people on the Internet who are not actually Irish born themselves lecturing others on who is and who is not Irish. Irish born people are pretty relaxed about it by and large. We get a lot of visitors from North America here and it's good to see people being able to reconnect with their heritage and culture. If you're ever in Dublin I'd recommend a visit to the National Museum of Archaeology. It has artefacts from across the island spanning the last 10,000 years which is the period Ireland has had human occupation since the end of the last ice age.
My ancestors all came here from Ireland, Scotland, England & Wales. It seems they settled eventually in Kentucky them by the 1920’s had moved to Indiana. And I grew up being taught in school is the music from Appalachian area. Then I spent time with friends in Ireland - where the music of choice was ‘our’ Appalachian country music. LOL. Nope …. It came over with my ancestors.! 🥰
Well, it just so happens that I DO consider myself to be an AMERICAN, first and foremost. That said, I also recognize that my ancestry is Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and English, all of which came to a simmer in North Carolina.
@ElaineWood-f2t Good for you. It’s just that simple, but some folks like those in Facebook's I love my Scottish heritage group, rudely insult Americans.
😂 I like that… came to ‘SIMMER’ in NC. Love the way you phrased that, I gonna borrow it from you! My maternal family has been ‘simmering’ in WNC for feels like forever. Dad’s side came up from MS in abt 1940 to mix & simmer with moms, then everyone just “boiled over” (divorced). 🤣 ✌🏻
I’m Irish, Scottish and English-which makes me Norse in round about ways. But mostly, I’m a New Mexico native with heavy dose of Appalachia. I’m American.
You have a lot of Hispanic and Native culture around you. We have people who claim some native ancestry around these parts, but because of poverty and outmigration, the ethnicity here hasn't changed much over the centuries. I only care about non-American history before 1717 because that was when our folks left enmass for America.
@@joe-y4o5y That's a good question. The Scots are worse than the Irish. If you go to Facebook and look for a group called "I love my Scottish Heritage." The openly ridicule Americans.
@@BarryVann One of my brothers-in-law is a Canandian citizen, he was born in Tanzania, and people think he is from India where his great grandfather was from, go figure.
@JohnKnox-q3m I'm sorry you were not welcomed. That's too bad. Knox is as Scottish as any other name. Rev. John Knox was married to a sister of my ancestor.
I live in Fayetteville, NC. It was settled by Scots in the 1700s, who were mostly Gaelic-speaking Highlanders. Although Fayetteville is now a diverse city because of Fort Liberty (Fort Bragg), there are still traces of the Scots. Many places and businesses have "Highland" as part of their name. Streets are McThis and McThat. There was even a Scotch dancing group at my high school in the late 1970s. May 2025 bring everyone blessings!
@nellerue446 That's awesome, Nellerue! My mom's family is still largely western North Carolinian. Dad's folks, ourside of Tennessee, are still in Chowan and Gates County.
@@helenorbarronjones3881 I hope the Scottish Dancers weren't drinking Scotch because they were in high school! Looking back though, I knew some of those girls and I wouldn't put it past them ha ha!
@@RmandyN I may have watched you perform! My cousin was a Scottish dancer at FTS High school. She graduated in 1973; I'm a 1978 alum. We both have Scottish ancestry. It's a shame Scottish dance groups aren't sponsored in public schools anymore.
I wonder if this prevails in all European places and cultures. I don't think so. I'm a quarter Swede and I have cousins who are 3/4 Swede. A couple of them have travelled to Sweden on genealogical expeditions and were warmly welcomed by distant cousins, even boarding with them in at least one instance. God jul!
It's a good thing so many of the English woman's ancestors came to America. That way we were able to come back and help them out during WW2, and keep her from having to speak German. LOL
I never quite understood how Americans of Scots-Irish heritage always look on Celticity, jigs, reels, leprechauns, shamrock, mist and St. Paddy's Day with fondness and passion while ignoring derby hats, sashes, and flute bands and "The Sash My Father Wore".
Well for one the Scots Irish or Ulster Scots if you prefer in America were enthusiastic supporters of the American Revolution and fought hard against the Crown, the British army and British rule unlike those Loyalists and Unionists in Northern Ireland today who give their loyalty to a German ancestored King called Charles Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. And of course like their American revolutionary kin we have to remember some of the greatest Irish Nationalists and Republicans who fought the Crown in Ireland were actually Protestants and Presbyterians like Wolfe Tone, Robert Emmet, John Mitchel, Napper Tandy, Sam McAlister, Charles Stuart Parnell to name but a few. There are only two countries who have fought their way out of the British Empire, the United States of America and Ireland. Neither wanted to be subjects of a British Monarch or Governed by and English dominated parliament in Westminster. Lastly I've read some of the writings of President Andrew Jackson of Ulster Scots heritage. He considered himself to be of Irish decent and Jackson's mother Elizabeth had a strong hatred of the British and she passed it on to her sons!
@rolandscales9380 That's a good observation and question to pose. I think it has to do with two factors: when their family left and symbolism. There are plenty of other attitudes that they have from the eras in which their family left, but they don't recognize their origin. My grandmother, who never really met a Roman Catholic, had ideas about them that a Protestant from 1720 Ireland would have held. You mentioned objects that are easily attached to romanticized images of a past, which, at best, is a blending of objects that are free of post immigration developments in your part of the world. They mean no harm to you or anyone else, and it doesn't mean they are flawed. At the end of the day, their imagery is loaded with symbols of an imagined past that are like like trying to recall various parts and meanings of a dream.
@@BarryVann The Unionists and Loyalists of Northern Ireland today would have regarded George Washington as a terrorist. They are like the people in America at the time of the revolution who decided to stay loyal to the Crown and fight against the continental army.
@rolandscales9380.......jigs are english in origin.......fiddle reel music is scottish in origin....there are many scottish fiddle reel tunes in ireland . leprechauns are italian in origin, st paddys day started in boston by ulster scots.
But you did surrender. King Charles the third has embraced multiculturalism and the wef agenda. The British crown has been German since George the first.
As I see it....if you have Irish or Scottish ancestry and you're proud of it then you have nothing to prove to the Irish or Scottish themselves. Let them think what they wish.
There are a lot of Europeans who look down their noses at Americans And this runs deep They think Americans or having an impression Americans feel entitled to feel that their culture is superior to there so as a defensive reaction they return like kind One thing almost universally that a lot of Europeans is our second amendment Farm freedoms they find that to be revolting, seriously
@johnpurcell7525 There might be some with that admixture, but they are not Antebellum Appalachia. That's why I focus on early families. If you have proof that my reading of DNA test results is in error, I would welcome to know where I'm wrong. With respect to the deep south, including Florida and Texas, you might be right in some areas. Besides that, I am offering my viewpoint. I am 70% Scottish and Irish plus 9 percent Welsh. The rest is northern European with a drop of Cherokee. While the percentages vary, these ethnicities, absent the Cherokee DNA, are seen in the thousands of regional people's DNA that I have studied.
An interesting perspective. As a London Welshman we like to think that in our City, no-one is a foreigner. Looking back on your heritage is in my view a healthy thing to be interested in .Perhaps your American fellow Americand should be a little more proud of any Welsh or English heritage. The Irish diaspora have a lot to proud of with a strong cultural, musical and language tradition. The yearning after a Scottish mythical past us tinged with fake victimhood. The facts show the reverse is true with James VI taking the English crown, bringing his daft ideas of divine rights of Kings and witchcraft with him. His descendants causing endless bloodshed across England and Wales, failing to produce legitimate heirs and causing endless risings up until 1745, backed by French money.. since then and certainly in the 20th & 21st century British politics has been largely dominated by Scottish politicians or with Scottish surnames. Good luck to all who want to search out their heritage, but spare us this false narrative of Scottish victimhood, fanned by the late Alex Salmond , not proven sexual predator and former leader of the corrupt and incompetent SNP
@willhovell9019 I appreciate your message. I am 20% English and 67% Scottish and Irish. Throw in some German and Scandinavian, and it finishes out my DNA. There really isn't much of a Welsh imprint in Southern Appalachia. The English folk came from mostly Northumbrian or Devonshire. Google In Search of Ulster Scots Land. That's my book.
If I were a Scot I'd be hopping mad over Brexit. The Scots voted to remain but were outnumbered by the English leave vote. And worse, since 2022 the Scottish Government cannot hold an independence referendum without the UK government's consent and as the UK Government will always have a majority of English MPs the Scots are no longer in control of their own destiny. Lastly if the Scots had retained control of their North Sea oil revenues and invested it, they'd be sitting on a sovereign wealth fund the size of Norway's now!
While I’m a Dunwoody planted in Ireland, the largest segment of my DNA is 46% Welsh. My grandfather was born in Cardiff & came to the US as a child after the American Civil War. I’ve always been proud of my Welsh heritage. I’ve kept my Howells family name & my children know where they come from. Every year on St David’s Day I wear a daffodil & it always starts a conversation.😂
@marypetrie930 Their genes are still around, but how does one distinguish it between western Germans? Besides that, the Census Bureau, to my knowledge, doesn't have a category for it. Even the British are trying to downplay it as they try to claim to be Celts.
The "British" or English are not "claiming" to be Celts, but they have a Celtic heritage as well as their Anglo Saxon, Viking, Norman or any other European ancestors that settled in what we call England. The Scots, Irish and Welsh being British are also basically a similar mix but with maybe different proportions. But most of the European people who live in these isles also have a more fundamental intrinsic similarity from the Bell Beaker people who settled 3 millienia ago. Anything else is just layers.
Why use the term Scots Irishman? This guy is Ulster-Scots, nothing Irish about him. Ulster-Scots are Lowland Scots who were planted in Ireland in the 1600s to eradicate the Native Irish. Lowland Scots also despised Highland Scots (you know, all that kilts, blue face, Braveheart stuff) Reinvent yourself all you like, but don't pretend you have any kinship with Ireland, other than with those who remained burrowed in in the North East of Ireland, where they spit poison at the rest of the island to this day. Ulster-Scots is a factual term. Pro-British Protestant settlers. The term Scotch-Irish is deluded and misleading, a bit like calling a Swedish Puritan family who settled in Alabama in the 1800s 'Swede-Cherokee' It may be your history too, but it's a history of being where you were not welcome, before moving on to America.
@davidh6543 Thank you for recognizing my ethnicity. The US government uses Scots Irish in lieu of Ulster Scots. I'm sorry about the Plantation policies of the British government and what was done to the native Irish. For what it's worth, I have two great grandmothers whose parents (Teague and Shahan) were pushed out of Ireland during the potato famine.
@@BarryVann No problem. There is a world of difference between Ulster-Scots and ethnic Irish re; culture, language, history, religion, and perspective. Wrong to conflate the two cultures. I'm glad your great grandparents made it to create a new life in the U.S.
@davidh6543 Thanks, David. I wish things could improve between our folks. Irish people are victims of the same kind of political forces that continue to pit people against each other. At the end of the day, our corners of the world are pretty small. I wish you well and happy days for you and yours. I have actually published work on Chichester and the Tudor's genocidal actions and the creation of the woodkerns. The troubles are centuries old.
Excellent points. I have traveled and worked all over the world. While I am often surprised by how little folks overseas know of us and our various relationships with them, I have been far more often struck by total ignorance of Americans regarding cultural connections and differences. So I thank you for doing God's work. Hew done right good!
@@BarryVann It is a pleasure to meet you and I am loving your videos. You have a half dozen of my ancestral surnames listed and I look forward to watching those posts.
Dr Vann, you are right. Work needs to be done on this. I think the approach in Ireland is markedly better than your Dundonian student -btw you may search youtube for the recent (unbroadcast) SNL sketch on topic though... You often refer to TV of the 1960s and back in our childhood our family were primed to watch out for o'Connors o'Haras etc as the credits rolled. That was a "learning moment"! In adulthood I learned that Wm Penn sailed out of Cork in order to try his luck in North America, having been fined as a Quaker for not complying with the Test Act (or equivalent). Of course the idea of Test Act is mentioned in US constitution... It's funny - I spent some time reading up on Rodney and his story -as there is a tune called Rodney's Glory and the tale shows clearly the interplay between the various players prior to US independence en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rodney,_1st_Baron_Rodney
Diarmuid, I always enjoy hearing your perspective. I was a keynote speaker at an Irish Diaspora Conference at Queen's University Belfast back in 2014. I was the token American, but it was a great experience. I have two Irish Potato Famine great, great Grandmothers (Teague and Shahan). They were born just after their parents arrived in America.
The British should be proud of your culture, because the countries established by the descendants of the British are all destinations for immigrants on this earth who are seeking a better life. Please protect your culture and do not let it be polluted by diversity.
Thank you for this. I am English, Scots-Irish, and German. It amazes me that Europeans don't understand that America is a country of immigrants, yet they sometimes think we are ignorant when it comes to history.
Well done. I enjoyed the video. Merry Christmas.
Thanks, Cookie Lady! Merry Christmas! Barry
Nonsense. Europeans know fine well that the United States is a nation of immigrants. Where do you get that from? We also know that you are not English, or Irish, or Scotch or whatever, just because you have a slither of dna. You know nothing of the culture.
Do the anti-immigrants in USA realise that they are all immigrants ?
Thanks, Barry, that was an interesting view and approach. You drove the nail home this time. Merry Christmas and be safe.
Thanks, Ed, I was inspired by some Americans who belong to a Facebook group that were asked to leave it because they are not Scottish citizens.
Makes me remember when a friend went to Scotland and Shen she came back, of course, I asked all about it- she said: "It's a country full of people who look like you." That was enough to settle any doubts for me that I am part of that heritage.
@@marykyle6611 Good logic!
Great insights! I'm a German-American (ancestors came to US in the 1850s-60s), but have been living in Germany for the last 20 years. Contemporary Germans rarely understand why we are interested in cultural heritage from Europe. You've explained it very well!
I appreciate the feedback. It helps to travel and really experience life in another country. I am affiliated with SBS Swiss Business School in Zurich, so for the last decade, I have spent time working there. That's such a diverse area of the country, so I have met very few Swiss people.
This reminds me of an unfortunately common conundrum involving the European attitude toward us Americans: we're often told we have no culture or heritage, but are then scolded and chastised when we make attempts to discover and celebrate our culture and heritage. It's silly, to say the least.
@@danielthompson6207 Well stated, Daniel!
I am Scottish. By all means discover your culture and heritage. But please, not to the extent that you want to lecture the modern inhabitants of those countries - whose culture has evolved and changed significantly since your ancestors left centuries ago - about what you think their culture “should” be like. And do try not to romanticise the past, be honest about our history and read some serious historians (eg Tom Devine - currently Scotland’s greatest historian).
Hi, I am a “Real Scot” from Scotland and my mother was a Scottish Canadian ,her mother emigrated to Canada after WW1.I am as of June 2024 considered to be a Canadian citizen because my mother was born there.One of my great,great,great uncles a Gibson emigrated to Ohio in the mid to late 1800s and was the manager of a coal mine there and he became an American citizen and I have a copy of his American passport.I have relatives all over Canada and I most likely share DNA with hundreds of Americans as well.Some of our bravest and best left these isles for America and Canada and I am one Scot who loves to hear how our Scottish people prospered in these countries.I do know that for such a small country our people made a massive impact on these countries and did not crow about it.I for one love to hear how Americans,Canadians are still proud of their Scottish ancestry and so they should be.They are part of the well educated ,intrepid,bravest and best people that left these shores.So Americans with Scottish Ancestry be proud of it just look at what your forefathers did and what their descendants continue to do.I have also heard Appalachians refer to a paper bag as a “poke” and that word definitely originated in Scotland.
@r.johnston919 R.Johnston, you have no idea how grateful I am to read your message. One person just asked why I would focus on my Scottish ancestry when I have an English surname. He doesn't know that I'm fifty percent Scottish and only 9 percent English. Yes. Poke is a word for a bag around here. I'm a descendant of Stuarts and Stewarts, Campbells, MacCammies, Johnstons, Vaus, Morris, Grahams, Cunningham, McGaghey, and MacSwain
Vaus was turned into Vann in Virginia. Vaus is a Wigton family. Thanks for writing!
@ Hi Barry, Thanks for your kind reply,I would add that both President Trump and his Deputy Vance both have Scottish ancestry and I wish them all the best with their task to make America again.
DNA doesn't lie.
Nope, it sure doesn't! Thanks, Steve!
They seem to think that someone from north Africa that migrated and is now a citizen of Scotland is Scottish and not an American who's ancestors were run out of the highlands or left for economic hardship hundreds of years ago.
They will be shocked to learn that Ahmed Muhammad, though he is a citizen, would cherish about preserving historic places of their traditions.
Who seems to think that??
Nobody I know in Scotland, or in wider Britain, considers foreigners as Scots, especially those whose physical features are so markedly different from ours.
Our corrupt, WEF compliant, tyrannical government may give these parasites passports, but not a single _proper_ Brit considers them our equals. Not one bit.
The same people think a man in a dress is a woman.
Yes that’s correct, the black man from yont Nyanga who moves to Scotland and integrates into Scottish society is more Scottish than an American who’ may have Scottish ancestors, who left the country years ago.
Let’s get this right you and the rest of your kind are American, you are not Scottish.
Disparaging and untrue remarks about the Scottish educational system from an American is laughable considering the state of education in the US population, the vast majority of whom, don’t have passports , have little to no knowledge of world politics/geography and think that The US is the greatest nation in the world
@djpandsmm my kind? My kind wouldn't put up with your pompous arrogance in person.
Thank You! for you channel it is always very informative and interesting. To you and your family - have a Blessed and Merry Christmas!
I really appreciate the kind words and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
I'm an enrolled tribal member. I look forward to the day that I can inform a 'real' Scot that I am also of Scottish descent and yes, that's my history too.
@@elfdream2007 Welcome to the Vanntage Point! There are Scottish folks with Native ancestry, including yours truly.
@@BarryVann thank you so much for all that you share and do
I enjoy your channel so very much and I think it’s just amazing.
Would you ever consider sharing more of your knowledge about how the indigenous people here lived and married Europeans? I too have Native American heritage as well as European.
Scottish decent but not Scottish. That's is the p point.
Your not a "Real Scot" you're an American who might have a Scottish ancestor (along with numerous other links to other countries "
@@djpandsmmpeople like you , are probably why Scottish people in the past, moved to America .
We love to go to these games. I'm hoping to go to Gatlinburg, Tulsa, or Batesville this year. My Dad's people consider themselves Scottish and my Mom's people consider themselves Irish, even though both sides are mostly from Northern Ireland. I think religion has a lot to do with it. I'm Scots-Irish, or is it Scotch-Irish....Scotch to me is a whiskey. You'ins is common here in the Ozarks,,,and frankly, it sounded strange to me when we moved up here from Memphis. English history is American history. I find it interesting how the Welsh seem to get left out of these discussions. While stationed in East Anglia I was also surprised at the opinions of other parts of the UK (Scotland, Wales, Ulster, and Cornwall) that I heard from the English in that area. Some of them really thought they were superior to other people from the same cotton-pickin' island. Merry Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Terry, you are spot on. Memphis has a lot of deep South influences, but it's possible to follow the vocabulary of the Ozarks along the migration route! Merry Christmas, brother!
How correct your are --- at one time when you looked Wales up in an encyclopedia -- it said -- see England.
YES, Neighbor, it's OUR History TOO. From my moms side which was Irish, Scots/Irish, Dutch, Welsh and having a Mc prefix, it's yours and mine as well and HEAVY DUTY too. I choke up every time I hear 'Scotland The Brave' and have for a long time. We are Blessed and WELL Blessed! And as far as YOUNS goes, all the natives here tend to compact words into one LONG breathworth instead of breaking everything down to individual words. It ALL runs together. So yall have a WONDERFUL next couple of days and we're still waiting for our Savior to show up and He won't come out of d.c either! God Bless Yall and ALL Yall!
Merry Christmas, Lewie, I think he is not far from us. I had lunch with an old friend yesterday, and he was expressing some worry about the anti-Christ lurking around the scene. That doesn't scare me, for I know He has it all under control. His will be done! Merry Christmas, brother!
@@BarryVann The ALMIGTHTY has, will and will be on the throne when this end comes. These times will sure be interesting to see how it all plays out and who does what. Merry Christmas Brother Neighbor and God Bless ALL Yall!
My name is McConville, my heritage too.
@@ThomasMcConville-x9k There you go, fellow Scott!!
I've been on the journey of discovering my ancestory for a long while. Long because records are difficult to come by the further back you go. My ancestors around 9th century were Viking. Who settled in the north and became a part of clan Gunn. We started farming. Eventually we became reivers. Guarding the borders from Anglo-Saxon and the English. The way records tell it we couldn't have been farming much more than one hundred years. Records say we served Ulster for roughly six hundred years on the borders. Before our family immigrated to the Colonies. I was really humbled by all the wars fought in Ulster. Many died defending there homeland. It really amazes me that I was born at all, due to the history. Now I have a deeper respect and appreciation for my ancestors. Live it to be your best! To all my kinsman and friends.
Thanks for the message! Happy New Year!
My grandfather was born in Scotland . His name was Edward Smith Thompson. Mother said he had a kilt made with seven yards of material.
@@barrychandler5250 Thanks for writing, Barry. Merry Christmas!
Dr. Barry,I hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.🎄🎁🎉❄
Thanks, Charlene, it's been wonderful so far. I got to talk with my son for a while today. All is well when I know my kids are good! Merry Christmas to you, too! Barry
Last and most important part of my research migration between Scotland and Ireland continued throughout the 1600s . The Irish Anglicans and the Irish Catholic fought over land and sovereignty. A wave of Scottish immigrants to ulster following famine in the 1690s led to Scottish Presbyterians becaming the majority community, despite their numbers , however they are Daniel political power . Sarting in the early 1600d , the group of scots called themselves scotches- irish began migrating to North America in large numbers. Although new residents of ulster were Scottish, living along side the Irish led both groups to influence each other , beyond their shared Gaelic and Celtic heritage. Before the American revolution more scots - irish migrated to the continent more than any other group . At least 250 , 000 scots - irish lived in the American colonies by the 1770s . Many of those individuals made their way to the Appalachian mountains. Appalachian region became a raven for those who had suffered under oppressive British rule. During revolutionary war, many of scots - irish immigrants played role in securing American victory. The battle of kings mountain in 1780, North Carolina, descendants of scots - irish, immigrants to Tennessee and Virginia were in defeating loyalist forces. President Roosevelt referred to the victory “ turning point of American revolution “ . Today, North Carolina has largest percentage of scots - irish ancestors than any other state, Tennessee. Scots - irish made the defining contribution to Appalachian culture identity. Blue grass music , with strange reliance on story telling and. L
Thank You! I spoke this way when I was very young and have always lived in PA. Very Interesting!
It's interesting how much our early childhood influences our speech.
As an Irish Catholic man whose family were in the county of Donegal in the province of Ulster. The British decided to partition the six counties in the province of Ulster who were predominantly Scottish protestants and leave the other three counties in the province of Ulster in the mainly catholic other 26 counties to ensure that the protestant majority in the six counties were able to suppress the minority catholic population in refusing to allow them to have access to government housing and more importantly the right to vote as the main Catholic City of Derry was gerrymandered to stop the council ever having a catholic majority in the elections
I'm happy to see you are learning about your history but I highly recommend that you have a good dig into the relevant history of both Scotland and the plantation of the province of Ulster by the English where they were the same people who had thrown the Scottish off their own land and then moved the problem in Scotland over to the northern part of Ireland
@@KieranKelly-o9s Kieran, thanks for providing some historical context to the Catholic-Protestant issues in Northern Ireland. I've actually written quite a bit about the 17th century and the politics of ethnicity and conflict that were begun by the Tudors and intensified by the Stuarts. Google In Search of Ulster Scots Land.
What you say is essentially true. Most of the planters in Ulster were lowland Scots and were a mixture of Protestants and Presbyterians. The English Crown wanted rid of these troublesome Scots and also supress the native Catholic Irish in Ulster and seize their land. In Ulster as non conforming Protestants the Presbyterians were supressed by the penal laws just like the native Catholics and a few hundred thousand of them left for North America. Interestingly in America they were enthusiastic supporters of the American revolution. They were also strong supporters of the 1798 rebellion against the Crown in Ireland which was brutally put down the British. After that they were effectively bought off by the British and became Unionists and Loyalists in Northern Ireland and as you say discrimination was rife. However today an Irish Nationalist Republican is First Minister of Northern Ireland and the mayors of the two largest cities are Nationalist or Alliance and the day of Unionist and Loyalist political dominance is over.
What seems to be overlooked or forgotten is they also put plantations in the highlands at the same time. One was not successful and the second was partially successful. The government wanted to separate the links between the highlanders and the Irish.
@BarryVann hi there Barry and I really appreciate your response. I would be very interested in the chance of reading your book so if you can let me know the details of it then I can order it from my extremely good Birmingham library network and I can let you know what I can get from it
Once again thanks
Kieran Kelly
Birmingham England but I am most definitely NOT English but I'm an FBI. A foreign born Irish man!!
I'm glad I found this. Merry Christmas Barry. BTW, my sister, bro in law and I meet up yearly at Stone Mountain at "the games". It started as a one time event that is now yearly for many years.
Awesome! I hope you'll stay connected. I'm dedicated to helping folks nurture a healthy respect for their place in the larger cultural context of modern life.
Oh, this is so true. I’ve found that over 80 % of my ancestors were from England and Scotland, family after family, clan after clan can be traced back there. The early settlers of America were second sons of nobility, members of the royal court for generations. Since researching and studying history and ancestry, I’ve discovered that Americans have some of the most diverse history on the planet today. Love your work and wisdom Dr. Barry. Signed, “I should have studied this field when I was at university.“. .😮😮😮
@@avondalemama470 Avondale, it looks like you are a real historical geographer. It’s in your heart and soul.
45% Irish and Scot, 30% English and 25% German for me
@@ThomasMcConville-x9k Yes, good for you. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Thanks, David! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
My experience trying to talk with Scottish folk, specifically young, seem to get ugly when you try to tell them you are Scottish by dna and descent.
Having taught there, I am not surprised in the least. They are not taught their own history; the government is controlled by OPEC interests.
@@BarryVann Sorry, Barry, That may have been your experience of the people you had in your classes but as I child in Scotland in 1950's I was definitely taught Scottish History. Mine was not the only school to do so.
@@BarryVannAs we would say in Scotland, " Yer talking pish, awa and boil yer heid "
I've generally found that this is because you would have said something to the effect that you are Scottish or God forbid that you are also Scotch.
When in fact you are an American with SOME genealogical links to Scotland.
@djpandsmm yeah, you prove my point. And yet plenty of yall hate the English.
Thank you for your wonderful cultural channel dr Barry . I gathered main information about topic you mentioned briefly first of all I looked up for meaning perspective means interrelation in which subject or it’s parts are mentally viewed . I read interesting article written in 2017 , titled did the Irish and scots get along ?. The relationship between the Irish and scots has been complex and varied throughout history, shaped by cultural, political, social factors. Historical context 1. Shared origins : the scots and irish shared Celtic roots , there has been cultural exchange between the two . Many scots trace ancestry to Gaelic speaking settlers from Ireland, particularly during the early medieval periods . 2. Conflict and cooperation: while there were periods of cooperation, especially in trade and cultural exchange, there were also conflict. The Scott clans often engaged in wars with each other, these conflicts sometimes involved Irish clans as well. During the 17 th century, the English crown attempts to impose control over both Ireland and Scotland led to tensions. 3. Religious differences: the Protestant reformation created further divisions . In Scotland, Protestantism became dominant, while Ireland remained predominantly Catholic. This religious divide contributed to differing national identities and conflicts, particularly during the 17 th and 18 th centuries. 4. Modern relations: in more recent times , particularly from 20 th century onward, there has been a greater emphasis on shared heritage and cooperation, especially in context of cultural events , sports, education . The Irish and Scottish communities often celebrate their Celtic heritage together.
Thanks, Khatoon!
@khatoon170........type in..... the human colonization of ireland and scotland | irish origenes | use your dna to rediscover your irish origin.........although it would be gall/gaull no the later fabricated gael.......no scots came from ireland. the name scotland is no that auld circa 1200s. from day one any migration was from scotland to ireland....there is no such thing as celtic heritage..
I lived with my mom, her mother and her step-father until I was 5. My grandmother's mother was English but her mother was Scottish. My grandmother ran her words together and so would I. Well remember when I was in the first grade and said "thismorning" as one word. So many words I heard were together when they weren't. I still have to catch myself from not doing that and I was also an elementary teacher. My mom's paternal line was predominately Scottish, Irish and Welsh but she didn't run words together. Thank you for your video and have a Merry Christmas!! Just have a wee bit of eggnog.😊🌲🌲🌲🌲
Thanks, Sherry, I am about to have a wee glass of red wine! Merry Christmas! Barry
@BarryVann Merry Christmas!!
Well done to you for tackling this often difficult subject. There are endless mini disputes and fractures between people on this subject, even in Scotland itself and the rift in families over allegiance can be quite devastating. One of my uncles has betrayed his Irish/catholic roots and even as his brother lies dying they will not speak.
But ignorance of history is never surprising- we can never or rarely grasp the full picture and few of us are given full accounts of our often unpleasant past.
I often ask an Englishman to tell me the slightest thing about the Irish potatoe famine - they are always ( even educated people) ignorant.
@terencequinn2682 Terrence, I greatly appreciate your thoughtful feedback. When I lived in Scotland and was chatting with a local minister about going to Northern Ireland, he told me not to tell Protestants that two of my great grandmothers were Potato Famine babies named Teague and Shahan, he advised me not to do that because they're Catholic families. Many anti Catholic ideas came with Ulster Scots to Southern Appalachia. I could go on, but I'll spare you. Thanks, brother.
@@BarryVannThankfully that nonsense is gone from the Republic of Ireland. People of the Protestant faith are very well integrated here and some of our greatest heroes were Protestants like Wolfe Tone whom I've mentioned in other comments. In fact Wolfe Tone is so important that he gets a complete grave yard dedicated to himself in Co Kildare and there are commemorations at his grave side annually. Wolfe Tone and Michael Collins are perhaps the two greatest Irishmen to ever live, one a Protestant and the other a Catholic.
Stone Mountain, GA also have Highland Games
@@sallyoakes7709 Thanks, Sally. I'm pretty sure that I mentioned Stone Mountain.
@@BarryVann oops. I must have missed it.
I’m a Hawai’ian descendant of Scots-Irish who came from Co. Cork, N.Ireland through Canada, Michigan and Rochester, New York. Last year was my first time at a Highland Games here in Hawai’i. It was very inclusive. I’m half Asian, a quarter Polynesian and just a quarter Scots-Irish. I remember tracing origins of country music dynamics to Scotland through the Appalachias. What a beautiful and rich history you have. My curiosity was from hearing Dolly’s voice and others who use some Sean nós dynamics. Subscribed and look forward to more content!
@Penelope642 It’s your hiatory and culture, too! Thanks for your thoughtful message.
Co.cork, is where I am from is not scots Irish. It is the most southerly part of the Republic of Ireland and definitely not northern Ireland.
Dr Barry I sincerely apologize for the confusion caused by my recent research regarding ( topic ) . As I read there are more than 20 million Americans today have scotch- Irish ancestry. Since their earlier arrival began to call themselves “ scotch - irish” to distinguish themselves from the newer poor , predominantly Catholic immigrants. Generally referred to these Ulster Scots simply as “ Irish “ so new comer adopted the term “ scotch - irish “ to distinguish themselves from the native irish . Today there are more than 30 Americans with scots - irish ancestor. Many people left Scotland during the time of the ulster plantation of James 1 . The scots - irish have been immigrating. Much of what we consider to “ Appalachian culture “ actually has it roots in 1600s Scotland. The USA has most descendant people of Irish descent, while in Australia those of Irish descent are higher percentage of population than any other country outside Ireland. There are very interesting article lee mc Rae college written in 2022 , by Emily Webb , titled ( the mountains : the scots Irish heritage in Appalachia ) . Writer mentioned Scotland at the time , of king James 1 of England. He was attempting to solidify his rule over Ireland and encourage the spread of Protestantism in Catholic country. One of his methods for quelling rebellion was to seize land from Gaelic ( native ) in Irish in area known as ulster and make it property of the British crown . The goal od this scheme called the plantation of ulster . “ this was dead -end od scots irish in north Ireland, because they were powerless , said director of Stephenson center Kathy “ . New inhabitants of Ireland couldn’t own land and they were required to tithe to the Anglican Church of England not national Church of Scotland, which was Presbyterian church.
@@Khatoon170 Excellent job, Khatoon! I'm impressed with you.
A few years back my wife and i visited relatives fayetteville arkansas and found numerous sayings we use in Ulster much to our amusement.
Indeed! I graduated from the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville and noticed vocabulary and accent similarities to Appalachia. Later, I traced many of them back Ulster. One of my interests is on belief systems, so I wrote some on that topic, too. Checkout place names across the upper South.
Merry Christmas everyone
Merry Christmas!
Scots Irish were Scottish people who went to the ulster plantation in Northern Ireland. The ulster plantation was England’s attempt at social engineering. Most “scotch Irish” were more likely Scot’s, English, welsh, Dutch and Protestant northern Irish who emigrated to America. They weren’t Irish. My grandfathers family were scotch irish, but they emigrated to the maritime in Canada rather than the Appalachian’s. This is historical fact, not family lore.
@@AnastasiaRomanov-w9x Yes, indeed. Professor David George Mullan of Cape Breton University wrote a nice endorsement of my book In Search of Ulster Scots Land. Eastern Canada is called Nova Scotia for a good reason.
@@BarryVann exactly. That’s where my maternal grandfathers family settled. St. John, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island.
Irish invaded Scotland first
@@Irish780 what? Prove it.
@AnastasiaRomanov-w9x from the 5th to the 7th century, the gaels /irish/ invaded Scotland and there's where Scotland got its name
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Thanks, Rhonda, Merry Christmas to you as well! Barry
I'm Ulster / Scots. Irish side, from Tyrone, Scottish side, from Glenelg. Don't ever lose that connection. You may not have been born here in Scotland but our DNA and the blood of our ancients has travelled the same route. My fathers name was Eamon O'Carroll, my mothers name Joan Weir Kinniburgh MacIntyre.
@@synappticuser5669 Many thanks for your thoughtful message.
See, thats a perfect example right there why Americans do not understand and cannot understand. Try and work it out.
@cooldaddy2877 Why don't you explain what it is that you think Americans don't understand? It seems to me they are trying to understand. Of course, I'm responding to a troll that can't use a real name. What makes you cool?
@@BarryVann Haha. Well you for a start. You have an English surname, so why are you talking about Scotland/Ireland. Yes, they may be trying to understand but you never will unless you live in those countries. I do agree with you regarding citizenship...but thats the modern world. I am not a troll but a real person who lives in the same country that my dna is. As for the "cool", I used to be a dj and that was my name. Have a great Christmas and New Year...oh sorry "Holiday Season".
@cooldaddy2877 You have no idea who you are talking to, cool man. I have a PhD. in historical geography earned at the University of Glasgow. I lived in Dunning, Scotland, and taught in Dundee. You clearly don't understand genetics and simple math. Each of us has four great grandparents, 16 double great parents, and 32 triple greats. Do you know the names of my ancestors? I have no interest in the current political landscape in the UK. My interests are only centered on understanding the culture of southern Appalachia and what attributes were brought here from other places. Attitudes like yours will not engender sympathy from us when your experiment with mass immigration fails.
Merry Christmas 🎅
Merry Christmas to you, too!
I think finding out where your ancestors came from is bloody marvellous. I’m a Scottish lass who did a my heritage DNA & my results were;
83% Irish, Scottish & Welsh
11.4% Greek & South Italian
5.6% Baltic .
I knew that my Dads family came over from Ireland but never knew which parts but have discovered they originated from County Cork & Dublin. Ive been looking at all my DNA matches in Ireland & paying particular attention to surnames etc anyway it’s fascinating & I’d encourage everyone to do one .
Many thanks for the message, Parker! Your 94% for Scotland and Ireland beat my 67%! If you are interested in surnames, I have done two seasons of about 100 videos on surnames found in the early American South; many of them trace back to Ireland and Scotland. Kind regards, Barry Vann
Merry Christmas, Barry. Great discussion of people in the old country expressing American's views on their origins. I grew up in the Chicago area and lived in Chicago for a number of years. It is perhaps the most ethnically Balkanized city in the country, and people know that when you're asked "What are you?", the answer is expected to be your ethnicity. It was an adjustment for me when I moved to NC and found out that the same question here refers to your religious affiliation. So, I find it refreshing when people here embrace their ethnicity. Except I've yet to find an American Scots-Irish person who is interested in trying Haggis!
@luisvelasco316 Luis, I have eaten haggis twice, but I don't think I will a third time. Thanks for the perspective. I spent half of my youth in Detroit, where ethnity is stressed like it is in Chicago. Merry Christmas!
a lot of southerners migrated to Chicago in the 50s
Bravo! I have heard many Irish disparaging the whole idea of an :"Irish-American," and mocking their ethnic claims. This is such nonsense. For one thing, if it were not for the passionate support of expatriate Irish (Eamonn DeValera, for one) it is doubtful there would even be an independent Irish nation. And who was it exactly, who pulled off the heroic Catalpa rescue? The attachment of Irish expatriates for their homeland has always been one of the Irish nation's most valuable assets.
@@frankbolger3969 Well said, Frank! Thanks!
DeValera can hardly be described as expatriate Irish. Though born in Brooklyn, he was schooled and raised in Bruree, Co. Limerick in Ireland.
Last part of my research the conclusion there have been periods of tensions and conflicts , there have also been significant cultural ties and periods of cooperation between the Irish and scots . Today , the relationship is generally positive, marked by shared history and cultural appreciation. Jenny Eeles reacher ( 2017 - present ) mentioned in same article Scotland and Ireland shared fenian heroes of folklore, such as : Finn maccumhail, diarmuid , cuchulain . The bard who related those tales was Ossian, Scottish Gaelic oral folklore, collected in the mid - 19 th century, is full of tales of the hero conall . The battles tended to take place between Eirinn ( Ireland) and lochlann ( Scandinavia ) with Scotland as the battle ground . They shared common tongue . Scots Gaelic was called irische in literature and Act of parliaments until the 19 th century. The scots were also the Irish faction that came back to inhabit the west coast or Scotland in about 400 ce , the native of mainland being picts . I hope you like my research. Merry Christmas, happy new year. Good luck to you your family friends.
Khatoon, you already know British and Irish history than most Americans!
Quite right. Boswell in the accounts of his travels through the Scottish Highlands commented on them speaking, " that Irish tongue." Scots Gaelic.
@@LUIS-ox1bv lol..the irish tongue......type in.......the human colonization of ireland and scotland | irish origenes | use your dna to rediscover your irish origenes .......although it would be gauls/galls no the later fabricated gaels...
@@LUIS-ox1bv gallic in scotland, no the later fabricated gaelic..
1631 on my Dad's English via Normandy Dunning side! And 1642 on my Mom's Scottish via Flanders Douglas side!
Related by blood to King James 6th of Scotland aka King James the 1st of England.
Thanks Cromwell!
Yes, he/they moved to Catholic Maryland and raised tobacco!
Proud right or wrong! 😂
@@ddouglas3687 I used to live in Dunning, Scotland.
@BarryVann Lol. Hmmm.
Interesting. Our coat of arms implies many "deeds" for the king of England in Barr(?)Sinisters, 13 in total!
Dad always said we were tax collectors 🙄😂 Don't know what that actually implies but Dunning is also a verb in getting money out of someone who owes you.
Fascinating stuff genealogy!
Very well said! Thank you 😊
@@jeanettecastle7916 You're welcome, Jeanette! Merry Christmas!
I'm Irish from Ireland and I can tell you that anyone here who knows their history acknowledges and appreciates our cousins and relatives in North America. When the Irish, especially the native Catholic Irish went to America they had a tough start and faced much discrimination but they worked hard and each generation built on the work of the previous and now they are one of the wealthiest and most successful immigrant groups in America and we're proud of them. As for the present day Scots well I'm afraid they sold their souls to the Sasanach a long time ago.
@@zipperzoey2041 Many thanks for the thoughtful message. The key is in knowing "their history."
Fellow native Irishman here, totally agree. Pay no attention to the scoffers. Your DNA is as ours
Scot here who voted for Scottish independence also voted for Brexit. Ireland sold its soul to its EU masters.
@@Parker_Douglas In Ireland we're proud Europeans and have no problem sharing sovereignty with our European neighbours. In fact it's made us very wealthy. Since 2022 the Scotish parliament has to get permission from the Westminster parliament to even hold another independence referendum and of course that parliament is dominated by English MPs who would likely turn down that request. Scotland could have been sitting on a sovereign wealth fund the size of Norways if it had retained control of its North Sea oil revenues instead of it been squandered by an English dominated parliament. The bottom line is the Scots have lost control of their destiny and despite a majority Scotish voted to remain in the EU the much larger English leave vote trumped it.
Wonderful video and well said!
Thank you! I appreciate the positive feedback.
I was born in Glasgow Kentucky
@rosemarycrabtree5892 Welcome to our little group! I'll wear my WKU shirt on an upcoming episode. I earned my masters in geosciences there.
So, the thing is, over this side of the pond, we're often also a complete mix. I'm English, Scots, Irish, also Italian and Jewish. And there's probably more. When Biden announced that he was 'Irish' and Brits should be worried, we just thought, stupid old man.
The fact is, I'm more Irish than him. It's where my lapsed Catholicism comes from. I consider myself English (based on who I support in rugby and football) because that's where I did most of my growing up. It doesn't make me want to relive historical slights and wrongs. By the way, I now live in Scotland - a country that has been very good to me - it's where I have brought up my kids - who identify as Scots. I would support an independent Scotland, as soon as they make it a viable option. But this isn't because my Scots roots (Graham Menteith) yearn for a fake Braveheart Hollywood moment. It's because Scotland has all the resources and talent to become an amazing country, if we're not shackled to the City of London. And no, this doesn't make me any less of a proud Englishman.
As Americans, you need to be thoughtful about expressing your identity and roots and how toxic this might be. How many people in Ireland died because of American support of the IRA? How much suffering has been caused in Israel and Palestine because of orthodox US Jews wishing to prove their chutzpah? What does it achieve for you? A few free drinks in your local?
And remember how you come across. You are, to us, 100% Americans. So that's how we see you.
If I were American I would be very proud of who I was and what my country had achieved. Yes, there are bad bits of history, but who doesn't have those? Plus, the kindness and decency of so many Americans is something to behold. Other values like initiative, hard work and resilience are why America is so successful. Many outsiders think that you could do with thinking about what you have as a shared identity together, rather than differences and grievances.
@matthewwilliams8969 I appreciate your rather lengthy detatchment of Americans from identifying with a particular British identity that's rife with political slights and oppression. No worries, mate. I'm not interested in what has been going on in the isles over the past two hundred years unless it affects America. My point is that up to a point, your history is also our history and vice versa. If you don't share that sentiment, I'm fine with it. I can't change who I am, and I can't take responsibility for people's feelings because of my existence and opinion, for I intend no disrespect. I would never tell a person to hide who they are because it might offend someone. From what I see in the media, people on your side of the pond are in jail for expressing opinions. I hope that's just Hollywood Braveheart mythmaking and not true. Happy New Year!
As an Irishman I disagree. Every second family in Ireland has familial connections with North America. Millions of our people went there often under extremely harsh conditions and in extreme poverty. Through sheer hard work their descendants have become very successful and we're proud of them. They are part of the Irish diaspora and we like to see them come back to their native homeland to trace their roots. I meet quite a few Irish Americans in work and personal travel and by and large they're great people and proud of their history and Irish roots and why shouldn't they be!
@zipperzoey2041 Thanks for the support! In America, Irish Protestants (the bulk of people) married Irish Catholics. My Shahan and Teague great grandmothers were born to Potato Famine families in America. They left because they were starving. They didn't hate their kin back home. No doubt, they didn't want to go to a land so far away that they'd never see their parents, sisters, and brothers again.
@@BarryVann I see a lot of people on the Internet who are not actually Irish born themselves lecturing others on who is and who is not Irish. Irish born people are pretty relaxed about it by and large. We get a lot of visitors from North America here and it's good to see people being able to reconnect with their heritage and culture. If you're ever in Dublin I'd recommend a visit to the National Museum of Archaeology. It has artefacts from across the island spanning the last 10,000 years which is the period Ireland has had human occupation since the end of the last ice age.
My ancestors all came here from Ireland, Scotland, England & Wales. It seems they settled eventually in Kentucky them by the 1920’s had moved to Indiana. And I grew up being taught in school is the music from Appalachian area. Then I spent time with friends in Ireland - where the music of choice was ‘our’ Appalachian country music. LOL. Nope …. It came over with my ancestors.! 🥰
Ricky Skaggs was big in Ireland about a decade ago. I was in Belfast in 2014, and the big news was that Dolly Parton was appearing!
Well, it just so happens that I DO consider myself to be an AMERICAN, first and foremost. That said, I also recognize that my ancestry is Scottish, Irish, Welsh, and English, all of which came to a simmer in North Carolina.
@ElaineWood-f2t Good for you. It’s just that simple, but some folks like those in Facebook's I love my Scottish heritage group, rudely insult Americans.
😂 I like that… came to ‘SIMMER’ in NC. Love the way you phrased that, I gonna borrow it from you! My maternal family has been ‘simmering’ in WNC for feels like forever. Dad’s side came up from MS in abt 1940 to mix & simmer with moms, then everyone just “boiled over” (divorced). 🤣 ✌🏻
My late mother, a Buchanan from Sylva NC had many Cherokee family members in NC, Va and OKLAHOMA
@@brendavalentine-bates7737 Thanks for that information.
Merry Christmas Professor
Many thanks, Brain! Merry Christmas to you and yours! Barry
I’m Irish, Scottish and English-which makes me Norse in round about ways. But mostly, I’m a New Mexico native with heavy dose of Appalachia. I’m American.
You have a lot of Hispanic and Native culture around you. We have people who claim some native ancestry around these parts, but because of poverty and outmigration, the ethnicity here hasn't changed much over the centuries. I only care about non-American history before 1717 because that was when our folks left enmass for America.
Present Prof. Vann ❤
Hi Raw Water! I was late joining in myself.
Country vs Nations how true. I wonder if the Nigerians, Poles, and Ukrainians living in Ireland are na Nua-Eireannaigh.
@@joe-y4o5y That's a good question. The Scots are worse than the Irish. If you go to Facebook and look for a group called "I love my Scottish Heritage." The openly ridicule Americans.
@@BarryVann Time for the US to get out of NATO? Let the Scots defend themselves.
@@BarryVann One of my brothers-in-law is a Canandian citizen, he was born in Tanzania, and people think he is from India where his great grandfather was from, go figure.
Merry Christmas...
Thanks, Lawrence! Merry Christmas!
We are who we are. No matter what anyone thinks
@@sandyhawks5240 I agree as long as it's rooted in reality.
I live in the city of Plymouth, England were the Pilgrim Fathers sailed from and my history is your history too
@stevehayward1854 Thanks, brother! That means a lot to me and plenty of other folks.
Anglo-Irish, Norman Scots, Cornish/Welsh and German here.
Your mixture resembles almost all of my kin!
I went to the games in Florida. Went to the clan tents and I felt very unwelcome when I ask about my name Knox
@JohnKnox-q3m I'm sorry you were not welcomed. That's too bad. Knox is as Scottish as any other name. Rev. John Knox was married to a sister of my ancestor.
@@BarryVann so Americans can become unwelcoming so it’s not just a Scottish thing then …mm
WOW! Well done.
@@susanwirt1 Thanks, Susan!
I live in Fayetteville, NC. It was settled by Scots in the 1700s, who were mostly Gaelic-speaking Highlanders. Although Fayetteville is now a diverse city because of Fort Liberty (Fort Bragg), there are still traces of the Scots. Many places and businesses have "Highland" as part of their name. Streets are McThis and McThat. There was even a Scotch dancing group at my high school in the late 1970s. May 2025 bring everyone blessings!
@nellerue446 That's awesome, Nellerue! My mom's family is still largely western North Carolinian. Dad's folks, ourside of Tennessee, are still in Chowan and Gates County.
Sorry to be pedantic but ---Scottish not Scotch --- unless they drink whisky while dancing!!!!!
@@helenorbarronjones3881 I hope the Scottish Dancers weren't drinking Scotch because they were in high school! Looking back though, I knew some of those girls and I wouldn't put it past them ha ha!
I'm originally from Fayetteville with Scottish heritage. I also was in Scottish dancing in high school
@@RmandyN I may have watched you perform! My cousin was a Scottish dancer at FTS High school. She graduated in 1973; I'm a 1978 alum. We both have Scottish ancestry. It's a shame Scottish dance groups aren't sponsored in public schools anymore.
I wonder if this prevails in all European places and cultures. I don't think so. I'm a quarter Swede and I have cousins who are 3/4 Swede. A couple of them have travelled to Sweden on genealogical expeditions and were warmly welcomed by distant cousins, even boarding with them in at least one instance. God jul!
I have had similar experiences in Switzerland, even though I'm only the 6th generation removed.
It's a good thing so many of the English woman's ancestors came to America. That way we were able to come back and help them out during WW2, and keep her from having to speak German. LOL
That's a great point!
Now we’re speaking Swahili, Urdu and Arabic. So thanks for that !
@rickarmstrong9793.........you only entered the war because o pearl harbour... not forgettin the vast amounts of money america was makin britain..
I never quite understood how Americans of Scots-Irish heritage always look on Celticity, jigs, reels, leprechauns, shamrock, mist and St. Paddy's Day with fondness and passion while ignoring derby hats, sashes, and flute bands and "The Sash My Father Wore".
Well for one the Scots Irish or Ulster Scots if you prefer in America were enthusiastic supporters of the American Revolution and fought hard against the Crown, the British army and British rule unlike those Loyalists and Unionists in Northern Ireland today who give their loyalty to a German ancestored King called Charles Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. And of course like their American revolutionary kin we have to remember some of the greatest Irish Nationalists and Republicans who fought the Crown in Ireland were actually Protestants and Presbyterians like Wolfe Tone, Robert Emmet, John Mitchel, Napper Tandy, Sam McAlister, Charles Stuart Parnell to name but a few. There are only two countries who have fought their way out of the British Empire, the United States of America and Ireland. Neither wanted to be subjects of a British Monarch or Governed by and English dominated parliament in Westminster. Lastly I've read some of the writings of President Andrew Jackson of Ulster Scots heritage. He considered himself to be of Irish decent and Jackson's mother Elizabeth had a strong hatred of the British and she passed it on to her sons!
@rolandscales9380 That's a good observation and question to pose. I think it has to do with two factors: when their family left and symbolism. There are plenty of other attitudes that they have from the eras in which their family left, but they don't recognize their origin. My grandmother, who never really met a Roman Catholic, had ideas about them that a Protestant from 1720 Ireland would have held. You mentioned objects that are easily attached to romanticized images of a past, which, at best, is a blending of objects that are free of post immigration developments in your part of the world. They mean no harm to you or anyone else, and it doesn't mean they are flawed. At the end of the day, their imagery is loaded with symbols of an imagined past that are like like trying to recall various parts and meanings of a dream.
@@BarryVann The Unionists and Loyalists of Northern Ireland today would have regarded George Washington as a terrorist. They are like the people in America at the time of the revolution who decided to stay loyal to the Crown and fight against the continental army.
@rolandscales9380.......jigs are english in origin.......fiddle reel music is scottish in origin....there are many scottish fiddle reel tunes in ireland . leprechauns are italian in origin, st paddys day started in boston by ulster scots.
@@brucecollins641 You're good for a laugh 😃
Interesting.
@barrychase9969 Thanks, Barry! It's always good to hear from a fellow member of the small brotherhood of Barry 😄
Scottish (including the Isle of Mann), English and Northwestern Europe here, zero Irish!
@@papaw5405 That sounds like many folks in the mountains.
Scots-Irish heritage is much richer and deeper than Walter Scott and prentendy clan guff. No Surrender.
@@Ricky-oi3wv Right, and well said!
But you did surrender. King Charles the third has embraced multiculturalism and the wef agenda. The British crown has been German since George the first.
@@UncleKlausSchwab he’s king of England not Scotland 🏴
Where else would White Americans come from???😂
@kingofmphs No where. Why would a school system not teach the history of people? They teach the history of countries.
@@BarryVann very interesting point.
Because most teenagers these days are told to be embarrassed of their history. It is the woke Communist virus.
As I see it....if you have Irish or Scottish ancestry and you're proud of it then you have nothing to prove to the Irish or Scottish themselves. Let them think what they wish.
@@dobbynp It’s hard to teach people who have concrete thinking.
@@BarryVann yeah that's my point.....you don't need their approval to be proud.
@@dobbynp nothing wrong wi being proud of where your ancestors came frae, or letting folk ken, but dinnae claim tae be something yer no
@@djpandsmm yep but Irish American simply means American of Irish descent. Scottish or Irish don't need to feel threatened.
@ yes but the title states a Scots Irishman’s perspective- facts matter
God Jule from Oklahoma!
Howdy! It's always good to hear from an Oklahoman.
KNIGHT lol no clue where my Ancestors originated from ( share croper G'father Fountain Inn SC )... I'm a MUTT I suppose
@SAGE_Dust if you are like most people, you probably have 7 ethnicities or DNA lines.
There are a lot of Europeans who look down their noses at Americans
And this runs deep
They think Americans or having an impression Americans feel entitled to feel that their culture is superior to there so as a defensive reaction they return like kind
One thing almost universally that a lot of Europeans is our second amendment Farm freedoms they find that to be revolting, seriously
@@michaelchen8643 That's true. I worked on a BBC documentary with Neil Oliver, and I heard that rhetoric sll day.
Most American DNA mixture German Italian British Irish Spanish French African Asian and everything else
@johnpurcell7525 There might be some with that admixture, but they are not Antebellum Appalachia. That's why I focus on early families. If you have proof that my reading of DNA test results is in error, I would welcome to know where I'm wrong. With respect to the deep south, including Florida and Texas, you might be right in some areas. Besides that, I am offering my viewpoint. I am 70% Scottish and Irish plus 9 percent Welsh. The rest is northern European with a drop of Cherokee. While the percentages vary, these ethnicities, absent the Cherokee DNA, are seen in the thousands of regional people's DNA that I have studied.
Happy New year to my DNA family in Canada USA Australia Wales Scotland Irland England France Sweden. 😂
@@ReneeSalloum-cf1by Nappy New Year, cousin!
An interesting perspective. As a London Welshman we like to think that in our City, no-one is a foreigner. Looking back on your heritage is in my view a healthy thing to be interested in .Perhaps your American fellow Americand should be a little more proud of any Welsh or English heritage. The Irish diaspora have a lot to proud of with a strong cultural, musical and language tradition. The yearning after a Scottish mythical past us tinged with fake victimhood. The facts show the reverse is true with James VI taking the English crown, bringing his daft ideas of divine rights of Kings and witchcraft with him. His descendants causing endless bloodshed across England and Wales, failing to produce legitimate heirs and causing endless risings up until 1745, backed by French money.. since then and certainly in the 20th & 21st century British politics has been largely dominated by Scottish politicians or with Scottish surnames. Good luck to all who want to search out their heritage, but spare us this false narrative of Scottish victimhood, fanned by the late Alex Salmond , not proven sexual predator and former leader of the
corrupt and incompetent SNP
@willhovell9019 I appreciate your message. I am 20% English and 67% Scottish and Irish. Throw in some German and Scandinavian, and it finishes out my DNA. There really isn't much of a Welsh imprint in Southern Appalachia. The English folk came from mostly Northumbrian or Devonshire. Google In Search of Ulster Scots Land. That's my book.
www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-british-studies/article/abs/barry-aron-vann-in-search-of-ulsterscots-land-the-birth-and-geotheological-imaginings-of-a-transatlantic-people-16031703-columbia-university-of-south-carolina-press-2008-pp-vii252-3995-cloth/23905499DF52DDC4C0B9A9862F39355E
If I were a Scot I'd be hopping mad over Brexit. The Scots voted to remain but were outnumbered by the English leave vote. And worse, since 2022 the Scottish Government cannot hold an independence referendum without the UK government's consent and as the UK Government will always have a majority of English MPs the Scots are no longer in control of their own destiny. Lastly if the Scots had retained control of their North Sea oil revenues and invested it, they'd be sitting on a sovereign wealth fund the size of Norway's now!
@zipperzoey2041 I'll take your word for the current political landscape in the UK.
While I’m a Dunwoody planted in Ireland, the largest segment of my DNA is 46% Welsh.
My grandfather was born in Cardiff & came to the US as a child after the American Civil War. I’ve always been proud of my Welsh heritage. I’ve kept my Howells family name & my children know where they come from.
Every year on St David’s Day I wear a daffodil & it always starts a conversation.😂
No Anglo Saxons left in America then!
@marypetrie930 Their genes are still around, but how does one distinguish it between western Germans? Besides that, the Census Bureau, to my knowledge, doesn't have a category for it. Even the British are trying to downplay it as they try to claim to be Celts.
The "British" or English are not "claiming" to be Celts, but they have a Celtic heritage as well as their Anglo Saxon, Viking, Norman or any other European ancestors that settled in what we call England. The Scots, Irish and Welsh being British are also basically a similar mix but with maybe different proportions. But most of the European people who live in these isles also have a more fundamental intrinsic similarity from the Bell Beaker people who settled 3 millienia ago. Anything else is just layers.
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Mechell, I am not sure that I know what you are communicating. Are answering a question that someone asked?
Why use the term Scots Irishman? This guy is Ulster-Scots, nothing Irish about him. Ulster-Scots are Lowland Scots who were planted in Ireland in the 1600s to eradicate the Native Irish. Lowland Scots also despised Highland Scots (you know, all that kilts, blue face, Braveheart stuff)
Reinvent yourself all you like, but don't pretend you have any kinship with Ireland, other than with those who remained burrowed in in the North East of Ireland, where they spit poison at the rest of the island to this day.
Ulster-Scots is a factual term. Pro-British Protestant settlers. The term Scotch-Irish is deluded and misleading, a bit like calling a Swedish Puritan family who settled in Alabama in the 1800s 'Swede-Cherokee'
It may be your history too, but it's a history of being where you were not welcome, before moving on to America.
@davidh6543 Thank you for recognizing my ethnicity. The US government uses Scots Irish in lieu of Ulster Scots. I'm sorry about the Plantation policies of the British government and what was done to the native Irish. For what it's worth, I have two great grandmothers whose parents (Teague and Shahan) were pushed out of Ireland during the potato famine.
@@BarryVann No problem. There is a world of difference between Ulster-Scots and ethnic Irish re; culture, language, history, religion, and perspective. Wrong to conflate the two cultures. I'm glad your great grandparents made it to create a new life in the U.S.
@davidh6543 Thanks, David. I wish things could improve between our folks. Irish people are victims of the same kind of political forces that continue to pit people against each other. At the end of the day, our corners of the world are pretty small. I wish you well and happy days for you and yours. I have actually published work on Chichester and the Tudor's genocidal actions and the creation of the woodkerns. The troubles are centuries old.
Excellent points. I have traveled and worked all over the world. While I am often surprised by how little folks overseas know of us and our various relationships with them, I have been far more often struck by total ignorance of Americans regarding cultural connections and differences. So I thank you for doing God's work. Hew done right good!
Thanks cousin! I am about to see if I can make sure my Ancestry tree is visible. If you are in it with you Cunningham name, I'll look for you. Barry
@@BarryVann It is a pleasure to meet you and I am loving your videos. You have a half dozen of my ancestral surnames listed and I look forward to watching those posts.
If you have not looked at it, Wagoner/Waggoner/Wagner would be of interest to me. Also Monday/Munday.
Dr Vann, you are right. Work needs to be done on this. I think the approach in Ireland is markedly better than your Dundonian student -btw you may search youtube for the recent (unbroadcast) SNL sketch on topic though... You often refer to TV of the 1960s and back in our childhood our family were primed to watch out for o'Connors o'Haras etc as the credits rolled. That was a "learning moment"! In adulthood I learned that Wm Penn sailed out of Cork in order to try his luck in North America, having been fined as a Quaker for not complying with the Test Act (or equivalent). Of course the idea of Test Act is mentioned in US constitution...
It's funny - I spent some time reading up on Rodney and his story -as there is a tune called Rodney's Glory and the tale shows clearly the interplay between the various players prior to US independence en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rodney,_1st_Baron_Rodney
Diarmuid, I always enjoy hearing your perspective. I was a keynote speaker at an Irish Diaspora Conference at Queen's University Belfast back in 2014. I was the token American, but it was a great experience. I have two Irish Potato Famine great, great Grandmothers (Teague and Shahan). They were born just after their parents arrived in America.
The British should be proud of your culture, because the countries established by the descendants of the British are all destinations for immigrants on this earth who are seeking a better life. Please protect your culture and do not let it be polluted by diversity.