How Does Van Til Help Us Understand Common Grace?
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
- From the archives: Watch Dr. Scott Oliphint discuss the concept of common grace and how Cornelius Van Til helps us understand it more clearly.
This discussion was originally given for the release of the second edition of Van Til's Common Grace and the Gospel. Find out more about this work at wtsbooks.com/common-grace-and-the-gospel-cornelius-van-til-9781596385832, and more from Dr. Oliphint at faculty.wts.edu/faculty/oliphint/.
Just started reading Van Til. Totally blown away.
Same here!
Yes!!!
*Common grace is part of semi pelagianism; this type of grace is only for those who have been baptized/part of the covenant community who may not be saved
Whoever rejects the content of the term “common grace” hasn’t really read his Confessions or reformed authors. Not every term has to do with soteriology. Disagree with the term, change it, but not with the content.
God's sends rain on the just and the unjust. This is a common Grace. An undeserved act of favor. Those who reject basic common Grace reject the sovereignty of God and hold deism.
@@ThomasCranmer1959 I've never read or heard any orthodox theologian say that common Grace equals universalism.
@@grantvanbrimmer6471 tell me if you find any deists in the PRCA and they are all very, very orthodox. They are the true inheritors of the Reformation and not the CRC, URC, much of the OPC, PCA, etc. Pelagianism isn't necessarily universalism, although it always tends toward it. Common grace is semi-pelagian in that it says that the unregenerate are capable of good. They are not and Scripture attests to this over and over. Any mercy, or I prefer to call it the common generosity of God, is to the reprobate's shame, judgement and damnation because they receive a gift (a gift is not a grace through generosity and grace will go hand in hand much of the time) and thank not God, whether with their mouths or in faith. Indeed they can't because faith is sovereignly given by God. Call it anything else, but don't call it grace. Grace is true, unmerited of favor by God to His Elect and unregenerate people are not favored by God. They are vessels of common or wicked use.
This is not Biblical whatsoever. The terms “limited atonement, “common Grace,” “totally depravity,” and much more are not in the Bible at all.
Although I agree that a "common grace" as commonly described is not biblical, your point is not relevant. The term "Trinity" as well as many other historically reformed doctrines are not word for word in the scriptures; this does not mean they aren't biblical. If these doctrines can be logically deduced from scriptures in accordance with the rest of the Bible, we can faithfully use them.
@@jasonlangerak6231 Calvinism always resorts to Trinity. There is a difference. Trinity refers specifically and only to the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
"Limited" atonement, "common" grace, and "Total" depravity are not scriptural. They're based on a human philosophy, not God's word. Furthermore, adding these words perverts God's word. There's one mention of atonement in the NT. Nowhere is it even remotely implies in any way that this atonement is "limited," and to claim it is limited is not Christian.
The same is true with common grace. This simply doesn't exist scripturally, and the implication that God's grace is somehow "common" can -and should- be rejected. Same with Total depravity. It's not scriptural, and it's based entirely on a human philosophy that is being imposed on the Bible.
Some Verses regarding Calvinism.
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables.
2 Peter 2:1-3
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words
Galatians 1:6-9
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
(emphasis on accursed here)
@@jedimasterham2you realise those references were referring to the Jews that rejected the teaching up until the end of the mosaic covenant with the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Judaic Aeon...
@@junkerjorg6310 Calvinism is still a cult despite how one tries to frame it.