5 Random "German" Things...Common in Germany!

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  • Why are these 'German Things'??? We want to discuss some topics that are very common in Germany and are new to Deana who is from the USA. Phil is from Germany and we wanted to get his German feedback on these topics. We would also like to get your thoughts and opinions as well!
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:10 - German Thing #1
    02:31 - German Thing #2
    04:27 - German Thing #3
    06:21 - German Thing #4
    08:06 - Do you include photos on your resume?
    08:16 - German Thing #5
    10:26 - Your thoughts?
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Комментарии • 418

  • @DeanaandPhil
    @DeanaandPhil  2 года назад +28

    Do you have a nice glamour shot too?

    • @bastiaan4129
      @bastiaan4129 2 года назад +4

      In the Netherlands you sometimes have to include a photo of yourself, but people usually just use their passport photo or a cutout from a regular photograph. These German glamour shots do explain a lot of German facebook profile pics though.

    • @katjah.7405
      @katjah.7405 2 года назад +2

      Yes, ich course. Vor my resume.

    • @shadesmarerik4112
      @shadesmarerik4112 2 года назад +1

      if u publicly continue to say 'du' to the wrong persons, despite warnings (police and such), it could be seen as an insult, which makes it a crime. Dont take this too lightly....

    • @juricarmichael2534
      @juricarmichael2534 2 года назад +1

      I have no glamour, therefore no glamour shot.

    • @markusfreund6961
      @markusfreund6961 2 года назад +1

      You betcha. But then every one of my shots is a glamour shot. 😜😂

  • @j.a.1721
    @j.a.1721 2 года назад +40

    I really learned to appreciate "Sie" in professional settings. Having that bit of professional distance with clients is soooo nice. I think people are more respectful if they are forced to use Sie.
    Regarding the photo, here in Austria that is basicly a requirement on your CV as well. Not necessarily a photo taken by a photographer, but definitely a nice one.
    And scarf are just amazing when it's cold, I guess they just want you to enjoy a nice warm comfy scarf as well :)
    I also like that we pay ourselves on birthdays so you never feel pressured to pay more than you can afford and if you plan it yourself ot is also less likely that people will forget about your birthday.
    I think the Germans in movies used to be really insulting, jzst remember the bad guys in like the older James Bond movies, they were either Russian or German. It feels like for a while every villain was either Russian or German, on any Hollywood movie. Feels a bit like propaganda.

  • @pascalnitsche8746
    @pascalnitsche8746 2 года назад +36

    Actually there are formal and informal versions of “you” in English too but usage has gone out of fashion and only the polite version is still commonly in use. For those wondering: the informal version is “thou”.

  • @saratemp790
    @saratemp790 2 года назад +15

    I heard we in US stopped including photos on resumes during the civil rights times in the 1960's, to prevent racism in hiring.

  • @tschehahh
    @tschehahh 2 года назад +21

    Hi, I am 53 yo „old white man“ (and German) and do not feel offended by „Du“. Even in my Company „Sie“ is very uncommon, but that might be because we are an IT Provider where „Du“ is common. We were once the IT division from Siemens, where „Sie“ still is a thing, so we said: We are not from Siemens, we are Dumens!! 😀😂

    • @inotoni6148
      @inotoni6148 2 года назад +1

      Nicht schlecht

    • @TheCloudhopper
      @TheCloudhopper 2 года назад

      Hahahahaha. The worst in German business life is the dreaded "Herr Meier, kannst Du Dir das hier bitte mal anschauen". German at its worst.

    • @allknowingpineapple4112
      @allknowingpineapple4112 2 года назад

      Bei mir ist es auch so. Wir sind IT Dienstleister und bei uns ist das du normal

  • @rickgarms7656
    @rickgarms7656 2 года назад +14

    As "No Longer Amused" mentioned, (except for careers that require head shots ie: modeling, film, advertising) in the USA, including a glossy photo of yourself could open up the possibility for discrimination/bias before a selection process really began. With just a resume indicating skills and experience only, the hiring/lending/renting party reviews your strengths and/or qualifications/potential...not appearance. Thanks for the vlogs guys.

  • @Pegalita
    @Pegalita 2 года назад +5

    My mother is German and I was born in Germany but raised in the U.S. my mother used to call us, her children, “you Americans!” I usually am not offended by how Germans are depicted in film, but sometimes it does get old.
    I have used a photo on my résumé and I think it helps!
    I am a new subscriber and really enjoy watching you two. On to 100,000 subscribers!

  • @monikadeinbeck4760
    @monikadeinbeck4760 2 года назад +17

    I like to use "Du" with people I know personally, like colleagues. However, some companies seem to think they sound cool and modern if they say "Du" to everyone. This makes me angry. I don't want to be called by my first name or adressed "Du" by amazon employees or insurance company officials.

    • @andreasrehn7454
      @andreasrehn7454 2 года назад +1

      ikea really pisses me off

    • @rolfgarske8174
      @rolfgarske8174 2 года назад +1

      At work I was used to use „Sie“ for colleges until I learned to know them better. And for teammates at the same level we would eventually offer or be invited to use „Du“ and to call them by their first name. But for bosses and everyone higher up in the hierarchy that was not an option until a few years ago. I have had many different bosses in my job, while I was still working, and all of them used „Sie“ or my last name to speak to me, and expected the same from me. But my last boss that I had, he was younger than me, but that was not a factor, offered „“Du“ to me on the initial face to face meeting in his office. I was initially shocked. I later learned he did this to everyone in his team. It worked out quite well, we never had a conflict and I had a great time for my last years at work until I retired.

    • @c.norbertneumann4986
      @c.norbertneumann4986 2 года назад

      At work, it can make you feel very uncomfortable as an employee when a supervisor addresses you with "du", thus pretending he (or she) were your friend if in fact he (or she) isn't. I hate this kind of forced fake informality.

    • @reinhard8053
      @reinhard8053 Год назад

      In my company (Austria, mostly IT) everyone is using "du" maybe except the highest boss. I had to adjust to that as I was young starting there. In sports it is common. But some decades ago that was also something new to me to say "du" to somebody 3times my age and with lots of experience.
      I'm not really offended, but I find it weird if some cashier or so uses "du" in a normal shop. Even more if it would be some banker or craftsman. Here it's also different in sport and hobby shops.

  • @Adalbert777
    @Adalbert777 2 года назад +10

    „Sie“ provides a nice distance to strangers, kind of like your personal space you do not want to be invaded by Hinz und Kunz. If a complete stranger approached me and addressed me using „du“ I‘d feel disrespected as if someone touched me without my permission. Of course everything depends on the context. Children and foreigner get a special discount in that regard. 😉 I have worked for companies where „Sie“ was common and for those where only „du“ was used. I prefer the latter, but I do not mind the other either.
    And I think it is very common in languages to have different forms of addressing people based in their age, status and relationship they have with you. Germany with its two forms (like French or Polish) is pretty easy, in Silesian (a Polish southern dialect) there are three and I believe some asian languages can do even better.

    • @thomashintz8609
      @thomashintz8609 2 года назад

      In the Indonesian language you even have a distinction between we (kami ((excluding the person addressed)) and (kita ((including the person addressed)). Of course you also have the informal you (kamu) and the formal you (anda). Even the I has 2 versions like aku (informal) and saya (formal).

  • @nolongeramused8135
    @nolongeramused8135 2 года назад +11

    In the US including a headshot on a job application is likely going to run afoul of EEOC rules.

  • @elis2714
    @elis2714 2 года назад +7

    I'm from the Czech Republic originally and we have the exact same thing as "du" / "Sie" and it works exactly the same way and yes, I would be offended if somebody a lot younger than me called me "du" ... it's almost like an insult.

  • @biancavoorman2328
    @biancavoorman2328 2 года назад +11

    In the Netherlands we have two words for the word you too. Jij for friends and family and U for older people and staff who work at the supermarket.

    • @DeanaandPhil
      @DeanaandPhil  2 года назад +3

      Ahh yeah! It seems like a good amount of languages have a formal and informal word for you! Do you get offended if someone uses the informal version to you if they are not family or friends? 🤔

    • @manuelak4783
      @manuelak4783 2 года назад +1

      German here currently living in the Netherlands: I'm still so confused by the rules for jij and u. Not one single stranger has been offended yet when I say 'jij'. Or are Dutch people just too polite and I've been offending them left and right? I'm also greatly weirded out by grandchildren adressing their grandparents with 'u'. I had not expected there to be such a difference between D and NL in regards to how to adress people. That confusion even carries over whenever I'm back in Germany and say 'du' to everyone :D

    • @Miristzuheiss
      @Miristzuheiss 2 года назад +1

      @@manuelak4783 i also know only U. At the Netherlands Border cities Limburg

    • @connyapfelbaum4498
      @connyapfelbaum4498 2 года назад +1

      Die "Regeln" sind anders gewichtet.

    • @connyapfelbaum4498
      @connyapfelbaum4498 2 года назад +1

      Mit welchem Pronomen würde man in den Niederlanden eine fremde Person, annähernd gleichen Alters ansprechen, wenn man nach dem Weg fragt?

  • @kristofferholst6053
    @kristofferholst6053 2 года назад +8

    Yeah, but you have the formal Sir and mam when addressing strangers, someone older or just wanna come of as being polite and respectful.

    • @teribendt94
      @teribendt94 2 года назад

      I am from South Carolina and this is proper etiquette to address people as Mam or Sir especially those who are older than yourself.My former Mother-In-Law from Pennsylvania did not understand our culture and took it as an insult in reference to her age.Deana,I have surrendered to the culture of the Scarf wearers as my husband constantly worried over me during my first fall and winter here in Deutschland. :) Also people really stared at me like I was crazy even with a coat on.

  • @renescharton839
    @renescharton839 2 года назад +2

    Why there is a formal version of 'you':
    It is about relationships. Being ' per Du' with somebody in German means to have some kind of close relationship with them. With all the expectations that belong there.
    Keeping it 'per Sie' gives both sides the opportunity to be friendly and compassionate without giving up personal space that you might not want the other one to enter. It keeps a professional distance without anyone feeling embarrassed or disappointed.
    It is a beautiful thing. It is all about managing expectations.

    • @mikkorenvall428
      @mikkorenvall428 Год назад

      If Sie is funny or complicated, there is equaly funny Sir/M'aam in english... =)

  • @kellinomnom
    @kellinomnom 2 года назад +25

    I found when people tell other people to wear a coat or hat or scarf it's really just concern for you. What's really just states 'I love you' in an indirect fashion 🖤🙂

    • @DeanaandPhil
      @DeanaandPhil  2 года назад +5

      haha Yes!! It's all out of love! 💜

    • @freedomdove
      @freedomdove 2 года назад +1

      Absolutely.

    • @ulrichbraun5873
      @ulrichbraun5873 2 года назад

      I dislike skarfs, they may keap you worm but do not help with a cold.

  • @Elke_KB
    @Elke_KB 2 года назад +5

    Canada here! I had to also learn french in school, so the formal/informal never phased me. It's just the way the english language evolved. If you say Excuse me, in english you're more likely to add sir or ma'am to the end.
    My mom was always telling us to wear our scarves, now I'm always telling my kids to wear a scarf. I don't like tight turtlenecks either, but you can wear the scarf loosely. It keeps the cold air from blowing on your neck and going down the back of your coat. Plus if it's not too cold you can leave your coat open and the scarf gives you just the right amount of warmth needed.
    If my dad's birthday was on a Monday, we would not have the "party" until the following weekend, never before his actual birthday. That was verboten.
    The german stereotypes is they represented as evil or stupid and everything focusses on Bavaria, Berlin or the war. But, I notice american shows play on stereotypes from other countries too.

  • @philsaunter1956
    @philsaunter1956 2 года назад +20

    I gotta be honest, I think in certain places I like the "Sie". As well calling it someone else and be called that. It's a part of our language and as many things languagewise it comes with advantages and disadvantages.
    On the "Germans" in US media I think Deana said the problem I have with it out loud. It's the only exposure many people have with the German culture. So stereotypes - and lets be honest it's not just the punctual, humourless, Lederhosen German, it's also the Hitler/Nazi/etc. ones - are getting shoved down unknowing peoples throats.
    If people knew the difference to modern day Germany I'd have no problem being the butt of a joke. As it is now though, it is just getting cheap laughes at the expense of another country with the added problem of proliferating a negative image to unknowing people - therefore feeding an endless cycle of ignorance.

  • @sejtam
    @sejtam 2 года назад +2

    Look up 'Hamburger Sie': :("Peter, kommen Sie mal bitte'). and 'Münchener Du' ("Meier, kannst Du mal ...)". :-)

  • @Kattleyah
    @Kattleyah 2 года назад +6

    1. I am from Germany but live in England for 7 years now, and now I totally started hating the "Sie". If I go back I will never fall back on that again and just call everyone "Du" :P
    2. Hate scars, never really wore one much, definitely not as soon as it gets a little colder
    3. I had a surprise party when I was 13 or 14, so my parents paid for it lol, my friends just organised it. I hate surprise parties personally. Never really heard about one when I was older though, so I think they do happen, just not super common?
    4. In England it is actually "forbidden" to include a picture in your CV due to discrimination. And I have learnt to also prefer this way.
    5. Nah, never get offended by any of this, couldnt care less

    • @torstenbeutinger3093
      @torstenbeutinger3093 2 года назад +1

      Mhhh, Du übersiehst, dass das Englische YOU das Deutsche SIE ist! Also spreche alle mit Sie "Vorname" an 😅...

  • @vickyburton2434
    @vickyburton2434 2 года назад

    I think it is wonderful to have an informal call formal version! It shows so much respect.

  • @guitarbabe53
    @guitarbabe53 2 года назад +3

    I'm learning German right now and I definitely would have forever mixed them up if not for this tip 🤣🤣 this whole video blew my mind and it was good to know! Hopefully I'll be moving soon 🤞

  • @potatophil8432
    @potatophil8432 2 года назад +6

    Those pictures.... :D

  • @Tristan_Anderwelt
    @Tristan_Anderwelt 2 года назад +3

    Hello you two. I'm from Germany and here are my answers.
    1. I have of course also learned to distinguish between SIE and DU. It always depends on the person and the situation. Friends of my children or customers (I'm a postman) are welcome to say DU. That doesn't bother me at all. But if there are people I don't really know and who I don't like or don't like, I clearly deny them the right to say YOU.
    2. I don't know that as extreme. Yes, my mother always said that and was worried we might get sick. But only when it was really cold.
    3. I'm definitely with Phil. I feel the same way with surprise parties. But it is normal for me to spend one on my birthday, at least on important birthdays.
    When I invite people over to me, it is also common in my generation (1970) that I then pay. But I'm a big fan of B.Y.O .. So everyone has what they like and doesn't need to bring any presents;)
    4. Of course, a photo belongs in an application for a job. At least that's how I learned that. But I agree that this may give more attractive people greater opportunities.
    For me personally, it would also be okay if they are without a photo. During the interview you can also get an idea of ​​the person and get to know them and not turn them off before you know them. Much more people would get a fair chance.
    5. I never really bothered how Germans are sometimes portrayed in Hollywood. I have way too much sense of humor not to even laugh at it.
    What bothers me more are RUclips videos about trying German food in which only dishes from Bavaria can be seen. I recently had a case like this and felt it boil inside me.
    So fact is stereotypes still exist ;)

  • @stsmp7656
    @stsmp7656 2 года назад +7

    Oh my gosh - i had no idea how similar Germans are with Italians in certain things 🙀 small breeze - they whip out a scarf, no one wants to get a ‘colpo d’aria’ , which medically is not a thing. Birthdays - what the heck?? Why should you pay or bring a cake for your own birthday? 🤯 ugh and the ‘tu’ vs ‘Lei’ - it’s very hard for this Texan to remember to use the formal Lei. (As i am from Texas, i am the walking embodiment of the American stereotype 😉). Enjoyed the video - i share you confusion and delight in living a second culture. Ciao from Italy 🙋🏻‍♀️

  • @haroldzentner2663
    @haroldzentner2663 2 года назад +2

    When my mother was a child , she was raised to say sie to her parents and grandparents. It was a different time…

  • @without898
    @without898 2 года назад +4

    I'm from Slovenia and we also use 'du' and 'Sie', and some people do get offended, if you use 'du' to early. And we also use these fancy shoots on or CVs - it's not mandatory, but you have better chances if you do.
    Same with 'wear a scarf' and 'pay on your birthday' points - maybe it's an Europe thing? 🤔

  • @VickyAEP684
    @VickyAEP684 2 года назад +13

    In every romance language there is a distinction between the formal and informal you (French, Spanish, Italian, Catalán, Portuguese, etc), Russian, Dutch, German, Indian languages, I believe Mandarin/Cantonese, as well, and others. Norwegian used to have the distinction until the 60s.
    Honestly, there are more languages that use the distinction than those that don't. English and most of the languages that don't use them, used to.
    English used to have thou/thee, and ye/you. Thou and ye were the singular subject form, while thee and you were the plural object form. Eventually You became used for subject/object and singular/plural, and Thou/Thee eventually took on a meaning of reverence. Thou and Thee felt out of usage completely later on.

    • @julesmo323
      @julesmo323 2 года назад

      So your argument is thus: "Well the majority of the world (1500's Europe) believes the world is flat, so it must be." Where as my argument for keeping it informal is that no one is that important and no one should be put on a pedestal and given honors simply because they are older or unknown to us. Its a cold and unfeeling approach to life and this may explain why American's in particular are outgoing and friendly to strangers.

    • @rczv
      @rczv 2 года назад +1

      @@julesmo323 I don't think Victoria argued either for or against formal you. The point is that the German way of addressing others is not special at all, it even might be more common than the English way. BTW, I personally have never liked having two ways to address others. It's just confusing to me, especially in asymmetrical situations (for example when a child has to address the adult formally, but the adult uses the informal address).

    • @reinhard8053
      @reinhard8053 Год назад +1

      @@rczv As a kid at family meetings with added non family people I always had problems to choose. I mainly went to not adressing somebody directly and using phrases which didn't have the distinction.

  • @Zanzarful
    @Zanzarful 2 года назад +1

    Your Danish neighbors to the north absolutely include a photo of ourselves on our job applications :D

  • @DanVibesTV
    @DanVibesTV 2 года назад +1

    As far as I know (old) English also had a formal and an informal version (You and Thou). Somewhere in the 17th or 18th century "Thou" was ditched and only the formal "You" remained

  • @LythaWausW
    @LythaWausW 2 года назад +3

    It must have felt really strange for the people I taught business English to at a Sie/Herr/Frau company. Because during English hour, we all used first names with each other, even the CEO. This going back and forth must have been trippy for them.

  • @redhead0122
    @redhead0122 2 года назад +2

    I‘m from germany and just recently started university. The professor here gives me a choice in how I want to be adressed. But in 11 grade it was super weird transitioning from „du“ to „ sie „. Because you were never adressed with „sie „ by your teachers or any other person before. Just weird realizing that you are now viewed as an adult.
    Also it can lead to super uncomfortable situations when you meet people. Like your boyfriends parents. After some time they still didn’t offered me the „du“ although we were on a friendly bases and very familiar. So I just formed weird sentences without „you“. Just because it felt wrong using either one of the both versions. I always use this trick if I’m unsure which version is the right one.
    ( Sorry if my English has some mistakes. I don’t write in it that often)

    • @reinhard8053
      @reinhard8053 Год назад +1

      My parents were very good friends with a couple living next to us for decades. We even went on vacations together. But they never changed to "du". It was always "Herr xxx, Frau xxx".

  • @nolongeramused8135
    @nolongeramused8135 2 года назад +5

    I've seen the whole scarf thing in Spain as well.

    • @DeanaandPhil
      @DeanaandPhil  2 года назад +1

      Can never have too many either! 😜🧣

  • @ewaldgering6459
    @ewaldgering6459 2 года назад +3

    Actually English had the formal "you" and the informal "thou", the latter simply became less and less common until only the formal version was used for every occasion.
    However adressing someone with "sir" is probably the closest English has to a "proper" formal Form

    • @bouchechhamdi816
      @bouchechhamdi816 2 года назад +1

      Wow, i never knew this...something new i just learned, thanks. i will start playing with it a bit with my German colleagues to see their reaction :)

  • @stephanteuscher6583
    @stephanteuscher6583 2 года назад +7

    Du / Sie: I don't want to be addressed "du" by everyone. But mostly it's exactly the ones who I don't want to, who address me like that. In my work environment "du" was standard.
    Same problem in french and italien language, by the way. And probably in a lot of other languages.
    Cover your neck: they don't want you to get a wrinkly neck early, because they think you will get old soon enough 😉.
    Birthdays: In all the 62 years of my life I have never experienced a surprise birthday party. So I surprised myself with a birthday vacation. I still had to pay by myself, but it was all worth it!
    Picture on application: I didn't have one when I applied for my retirement. And it worked anyway!! Although, it could have worked faster, if I did have a picture on it...
    Not offended by portrayed German stereotypes - it's not always wrong if they are scared of us 😎.

  • @crazy71achmed
    @crazy71achmed 2 года назад +7

    #1 Du/Sie
    When I was around 30, I waited for the S-Bahn at night. A young man who was maybe 20 years old came up to me pretty straightforward. I wondered if this was going to be a failed robbery. :) He became very small 5 meters in front of me and then walked very slowly. Then he asked me very politely: [Entschuldigen Sie, können Sie mir bitte sagen wie spät es ist?] Excuse me, can you please tell me what time it is? Then I knew, now you are OLD! :D

    • @FruchtbumerangLP
      @FruchtbumerangLP 2 года назад +2

      You know what is even worse? When you are like 16 or 17 and kids start calling you "Sie", then you *feel* really old.
      Also, fun fact: I always looked a little older than I am/was, so people started calling me "Sie" pretty early and it felt really awkward, because I still felt realy young and dependent and so not ready for life. ;)

  • @jasonpeak8899
    @jasonpeak8899 2 года назад +6

    The two things that I found somewhat odd were children walking into a bar and people bringing their dogs into restaurants. There was a bar across the street from my kaserne (late 1980s) and every day this kid would come in, couldn't have been more than 7 or 8, and buy a couple of bottles of pils to take to his mother who lived just a couple of doors down from the bar. First time I saw it was a definite culture shock moment.

    • @Itsjustme-Justme
      @Itsjustme-Justme 2 года назад +1

      The 80s are long gone in Germany. Today children are not even allowed to buy liqueur filled chocolates as a birthday gift for their parents.

    • @51tomtomtom
      @51tomtomtom 2 года назад

      Not anymore ! Since quite a while......

    • @CologneCarter
      @CologneCarter 2 года назад +3

      I would do this back in the 70' when I was about 10 years old. I also would be sent to buy cigarettes for my father.
      But what still shocks me to this day, was when my father and I went to a bar (he went for beer, I went for coke) and a total stranger bought me an alcoholic drink and my father told me it would by impolite to refuse the offered drink. I was about 12 at that time.
      My kids grew up in the 90' and they were not allowed to buy alcohol or cigarettes for their parents anymore. Which is a very good thing.

  • @saratemp790
    @saratemp790 2 года назад +3

    I love scarfs. When it gets a little cold out, you often don't need a coat, you can just put on a scarf and feel warm. But that probably holds true more for warmer places where it doesn't get TOO cold in winter.

    • @pjschmid2251
      @pjschmid2251 2 года назад

      That’s probably because the back of your neck is one of the key places that your body uses to determine temperature for body temperature regulation. So if you’re in a room and you’re feeling just a little bit cool put on a scarf and you’ll feel a lot warmer. Or if you have long hair just put your hair down.

  • @alexanderschwarm7755
    @alexanderschwarm7755 2 года назад

    Thank you for the good fun, these times are so dark ☺

  • @pabloguerra3028
    @pabloguerra3028 2 года назад

    Great observations Deanna and Phil, in regards to birthdays here in Panama. people give gifts to the birthday person, treat them to a meal. Also in regards to applications for jobs its 50 50 some require pictures some dont. Pictures is good to a certain extent but then exclude people at the same time.

  • @sabinep99
    @sabinep99 2 года назад

    Hi Deana and Phil. Great list!
    I'm from Austria and we too have the Foto on our CV. But in the UK they also do not have that which as far as I know is because they don't want to get biased by how good (or bad) you look and also to estimate your ethnicity and age from that picture, as it would be considered discrimination. (sometimes recruiters even leave the name of the applicant out for that reason)

  • @Laserfrankie
    @Laserfrankie 2 года назад +3

    I don't get so much offended by German stereotypes in Hollywood as by obvious mistakes and misrepresentations. Sometimes the blow is also softened by the German dubbing. "Die Hard" for instance had the German identity of the baddies completely changed and they were given English names.
    I remember there was an episode of MacGyver that was set in Eastern Germany in the mid 80's - but a) they used west German cars in the scenes (Mercedes, Porsche), and b) the location was clearly identifiable as a skiing resort in the Rocky Mountains. Also, I think it was in one of the Bourne movies that partly was set in Germany, where a microwave oven was labeled with "Knallmais". We call it "popcorn", too, you half-wits!!!

  • @ninanoir9029
    @ninanoir9029 2 года назад +5

    As a Danish person feeling the same way deana feels about neckwear I can tell you people are just as obsessed in Denmark as in germany

  • @Mel1984
    @Mel1984 2 года назад

    Hello, I'm living in Ostwestfalen. I'm including always pictures in my applications. I thought it is normal. Thanks for your videos. With them I'm learning English.

  • @martinjunghofer3391
    @martinjunghofer3391 2 года назад +1

    Regarding "you": If someone I do not know addresses me with "Du", it depends on whether the situation is more friendly or more aggressive; if she is friendly, I may be a little surprised, but usually accept it; if she is aggressive, I defend myself against it by asking: "Have we already eaten a sack of salt together?" This used to be a common threshold in northern Germany to offer the "you"!
    Regarding "invite": I have the impression that "einladen" and "invite" contain two completely different things, at least in Germany and America. "Einladen" in Germany always means - unless you expressly exclude it - that the person inviting pays, regardless of where you are, at home, in a restaurant or wherever. "Invite" in America - that's how I experienced it there - means that you ask the other person to meet you and do something together - nothing more! This is more confusing for Germans in America than the other way around, because not having to pay anything is more pleasant than having to pay when you expected otherwise!

  • @jankapf5807
    @jankapf5807 2 года назад +1

    In slovak is formal and informal too. It shows respect and I like it, even tough I am young.

  • @jencrecelius3565
    @jencrecelius3565 2 года назад

    Agree with the neck situation- I can't even stand t-shirts anymore let alone a turtleneck! V or scoop necks only or I just feel like I'm being strangled, lol.

  • @wienohtria535
    @wienohtria535 2 года назад +2

    I am from Hong Kong and we do not put photos on CVs. Because employers are looking for your abilities but not for beauty queens/ kings. It was a culture shock for me when I moved to Vienna (similar culture to Germany).

  • @pjschmid2251
    @pjschmid2251 2 года назад +4

    I think there’s a getting to be more awareness in the United States about biases particularly racial, gender and age biases. So including a picture would defeat a lot of the measures that some companies are putting in place to try and combat those biases. Women will sometimes use initials instead of first names just to try to avoid gender biases. I can hardly imagine adding “attractiveness“biases on top of all of that.

    • @stpaley
      @stpaley 2 года назад +1

      yes i had the same response as to why the US doesn't use a photo for applications or etc.

  • @LythaWausW
    @LythaWausW 2 года назад +7

    Deana and Phil, have you ever been offended by being called du inappropriately? It's only happened to me once. Scarf culture shock: finding my husband wearing a scarf *in bed* when he was sick.

  • @MichaelAlthauser
    @MichaelAlthauser 2 года назад

    Easy German has a really great video on the "Du vs Sie" thing, it's worth a watch!

  • @susie2251
    @susie2251 2 года назад +4

    I’ve noticed the obsession in France and Germany particularly with keeping drafts off your neck and wearing a scarf. And no, it’s not something universal with cold weather areas. I grew up in New England in a much colder environment and there was never an obsession with scarf wearing. In fact, we were rather hardy and wore lighter clothes as long as possible because the winter was so long as it was, why start early in the fall?

    • @reinhard8053
      @reinhard8053 Год назад

      Could it be that Germans are more and longer outside ? With everything done by car vs. doing much as a pedestrian ? In winter I usually use warm jackets which cover the neck so that I mostly don't need one except if I know I will be outside for a longer time at low temperatures. But I see lots of them around.

  • @susannay.3437
    @susannay.3437 2 года назад +5

    The Chinese also have a formal and informal form of "you." And when living in Taiwan, people would rather often tell me to put a coat on our little sons--it was in the 60s and they already were wearing long pants and long sleeves. I too don't like wearing anything close around my neck even with the Pennsylvania winters I grew up with. I also think that Americans have become even less formal with first name usage in business. It hasn't always been the case. Nice video. Very interesting! ♥️

    • @DeanaandPhil
      @DeanaandPhil  2 года назад +4

      That's true! Quite a few languages have the formal and informal versions, it will be interesting to see if other cultures continue with the formal language in the future!

    • @damonbrown5424
      @damonbrown5424 2 года назад +1

      In Japanese, it's even worse. Not only do they have several versions of "you" (and "I"), but they have a whole other formal version of the language: keigo.

  • @ESUSAMEX
    @ESUSAMEX 2 года назад

    In order for me to wear a winter hat, the temperatures have to be well below zero. When I was growing up in NY, I didn't even wear a jacket until after Christmas. I haven't worn a scarf since I was 5.

  • @pandabear8163
    @pandabear8163 2 года назад

    My grandmother who was 1st gen. German-American did the whole scarf thing. Put on your scarf, you need to keep your chest warm, if the tubes get cold they catch germs and you get sick. Where I worked we would have bouts of no heat and it would get chilly. People would giggle with my scarf wearing. But,many came down with colds-not me. She also had a keep your back covered when you sleep, need to keep your kidneys warm.

  • @loonylovegood2.073
    @loonylovegood2.073 2 года назад +1

    Surprise Parties ARE a thing !! 😂😅 I planned three in 2019 lol

  • @silkedavid8876
    @silkedavid8876 2 года назад +2

    Wearing some kind of scarf for German women is so typical. I live in England, and last time I flew to Namibia via Frankfurt. A German group was boarding for their holiday. The women, all late 40s and above, really stood out, due to short hair and because they wore a scarf.
    Both sexes were also easily identifiable as German by their shoes.
    near my town here in England we have a large US airbase, and I recognise an American on a dark, foggy night from half a mile away by their clothes or hair cut.

  • @pennylaw
    @pennylaw Год назад

    I’m from Malaysia and we include photos in our CVs and resumes as well. Not necessarily glamour shots. We usually just use the same ones taken for our identity card/driving license/passport.
    There are formal and informal terms in Korean and people get offended if you use the wrong ones to address them. Having learnt Korean for the last two years, it doesn’t surprise me at all that there are du and sie in German for you.

  • @MrSuperRotesSchaf
    @MrSuperRotesSchaf 2 года назад +4

    Hi guys, from my own experience in applying to different jobs in Germany you don't have to include a picture of yours. I personally never did this and I had successful applications. :)
    So I guess times are changing (even in good old Germany).
    Cheers!

  • @Marie0301
    @Marie0301 2 года назад

    Hey there ! i'm from Iran and these things you said are just the same as Here .. so i'm so relieved because i'm moving to germany this year !!!

  • @antoniamerdjanova2760
    @antoniamerdjanova2760 2 года назад

    I am from Bulgaria and we also have formal and informal word to communicate with people we know and people we don’t know. If you know the person we say ‘ti’ and if we don’t know the person we say ‘vie’. And we also include picture in our application.

  • @chrisrudolf9839
    @chrisrudolf9839 2 года назад

    I have experienced some surprise birthday parties, though I wouldn't say they are common. If you do that in Germany, the one who organizes it should be really close to that person and should be absolutely sure that the person has nothing else planned and actually likes parties and just doesn't organize one themselves because it is too much work or too expensive. In the surprise birthday parties I was part of, the organizer was always the person's significant other. I guess you can also do it if you are a close relative or bff, but it would probably be wise to get the person's significant other on board in that case to test the water and make sure that they don't have anything else planned. If you do organize a surprise party, of course you can't expect the person to pay for it, you'd either pay for the whole thing as the organizer or team up with some of their friends to split the cost among you as part of your birthday present.

  • @LucaSitan
    @LucaSitan 2 года назад

    Ok fine...I subscribed. But yeah, I do like your content a lot :)

  • @sakuyacamui8650
    @sakuyacamui8650 2 года назад +2

    This information about the scarf shocked me.
    Since I came to Germany, I can't get over the surprise that people here dress as they like and completely ignore the weather and the seasons. For example, today I saw two men in shorts. Normal who wears short pants in November? To this day, it was 3-4 degrees. Every second person passed on the street wore a sweatshirt, because who needs a jacket... It was also quite an interesting phenomenon for me that few people put on a hood, even if it is raining and this person does not have an umbrella, especially a girl.

    • @kingmp1227
      @kingmp1227 2 года назад

      yeaah, we are a little weird when it comes to clothing. The thing with the rain is totally me, 100%. I NEVER cover my head when it rains. only when its like a fkn waterfall

  • @tomhalla426
    @tomhalla426 2 года назад +1

    While Germans usually get stereotyped as Bavarians or Prussians, a lot of foreign media uses either a Southerner or a Valley Girl for Americans.

  • @terryrutherford2114
    @terryrutherford2114 2 года назад

    I'm aging myself. In 1983 I was a sophomore taking German 1 in Hochshule. Mein Lehrer war ein Latvian. I read a sentence out of our text book..."Meine nama ist Roger Roots. He said I had a distinct accent from a region, Haha. I would love to be bilingual and speak Deutch, but alas, no such luck. Thanks for the video!

  • @natashabergen4161
    @natashabergen4161 2 года назад

    I'm from Canada, no photos on any resumes or rental applications here. Also Deana, I totally understand the scarf thing. When I was in Germany everyone was always telling me not just how to wear a scarf but what I should wear almost all year round since Germans have outdoor attire for any and every kind of weather haha

  •  2 года назад

    In Portugal we use pictures too, I didn't know about the appartement probably I'm going to do that I'm trying to move to another apartment 😅

  • @freedomdove
    @freedomdove 2 года назад

    I guess I'm just used to the idea of surprise birthday parties here in the States. Of course the guest of honor wouldn't be paying. But conversely, if someone throws a party for themselves then they should be footing the bill.

  • @cobblestoneadventures1129
    @cobblestoneadventures1129 2 года назад

    Omg!! My my German mother is ALWAYS making me put a scarf on 😂

  • @celine-sophiekramer6424
    @celine-sophiekramer6424 2 года назад

    Hi I am from Germany and I have learned that you have to be polite to olders and respectful persons but it is different from "Bundesland" to "Bundesland".
    The second is with the skarf it is the first time that I have heard of this.
    It can be different from the one "Bundesland" to the other "Bundesland"
    In Bremen you can see people who go outside with thin clothes in the cold winter and "20 grad Celsius" is warm for German people.
    3.yes I had a surprise birthday party then I got 6 or 7 years old.
    4. Yes I have a photo on my CV and we are learning it in school that you must have a photo on your CV.
    5. I think this old stereo type are not nice and are not true but I can live with it.
    I hope I can help you with this answers
    and have a great day.

  • @JakobFischer60
    @JakobFischer60 2 года назад +3

    I work in a german company where it is official that everybody should use the informal you. Best experience ever. So relaxing and helpfull. Also meetings with foreign companies work well. Always informal you and first name.
    The fun starts when we have video calls with a english speaking and a german speaking company. You do not know how to adress your german collegues from the other company, as in german you would use the formal sie and lastname, but the english guys use first names. So some use the last name, as in german, but most use the first name, like in english. Very stressfull.

    • @svensoderbom3795
      @svensoderbom3795 2 года назад +1

      I am from Sweden, and here we have been using "du" since the end of the sixties. Occationally, younger people (I am 77) say "ni" (=Sie) to me which make me feel angry and disappointed.
      When I go to Germany I always use "du". I do not care if people get mad.

    • @majedal-baghl4917
      @majedal-baghl4917 2 года назад

      I can imagine! Suddenly, "Herr Ziegler" and "Frau Doktor Messner" become "Ulrich" and "Sabine." Nails on the chalkboard . ..,

  • @kiko7119
    @kiko7119 2 года назад +1

    Oh wie süß, Rollkragenpulli heißt turtle neck? 🥰 I don't like them also, but scarfs.. 🤣

  • @BigAndTall666
    @BigAndTall666 2 года назад +9

    5 types of "you" here in Dk, ranging from family and friends to royalty and clergy! 😆😆😆

    •  2 года назад

      As in most languages I think, they have at least two forms. Didn't know you had five in Danish. :D

    • @chrismochrismo1918
      @chrismochrismo1918 2 года назад

      Only two, just like, German, Swedish, French etc. But the formal 'De' is not used very much.

  • @eileenhildreth8355
    @eileenhildreth8355 2 года назад

    Old English had formal you and informal thou, but this died out of language except in Quaker circles. Photos on resumes and applications are not a thing generally in New Zealand. When I was working it was normal to 'shout' (pay for) coworkers morning tea....cake or similar. But if going out for dinner or drinks being paid for by others is common, or we 'go Dutch' that is each pay separately (restaurants do not mind splitting the bill).

  • @orvilledumm5675
    @orvilledumm5675 2 года назад +4

    we have formal/informal plural "you" in my language, and yes I'd be offended if a random dude I never met before started to call me by my first name. But e.g. with colleagues, we often call each other by the first name, but still use the formal plural 'you'. To go to informal you, one must suggest it and the other one must agree. I find it useful, it helps me keep distance from certain people. I once had an American boss, and yeah he was very informal, asked us to call him by his first name... but of all bosses I had, he was the most controlling, a real despot. His informality felt fake and forced, and we all despised it.

    • @wora1111
      @wora1111 2 года назад +3

      I use "Du" inside a close knit group (Verein or family). To me implies that we that we went through some troubles and it is a badge of honor. And it tells other that consider you trustworthy. Little incident: I addressed my first boss as "Du" in a very vocal discussion (after he did!). He earned it there. And I got. Salary upgrade.

  • @sabrinaclarus6290
    @sabrinaclarus6290 2 года назад

    Als ich noch klein war und im Herbst oder Winter nach draussen gehen wollte, hat meine Mutter immer gesagt:"Muetze, Schal und Handschuhe!!"Werd ich nie vergessen, lol.

  • @biankakoettlitz6979
    @biankakoettlitz6979 2 года назад

    Definite Yes!!! It's better to say "Sie" if you have not to than to say "you" if you have to. I referring to Dieter Bohlen(Modern Talking) He was in court because of it😁.

  • @sourdoughhome2571
    @sourdoughhome2571 2 года назад +2

    Before retiring I worked for a staffing agency in the USA, and we always told candidates to NOT put a picture on a resume. The only reason to do so would be if you are applying for a modeling or acting position where appearance is important. Outside of that, a picture will at best do no harm. A picture will all too often give people a reason to not hire you, or even interview you. People may not want to hire someone of your ethnic group working for them (1), or someone so ugly, or someone so fat (2) or even someone so attractive (3). Why? Let's look...
    1. It is easy to discard a resume and there would be no pushback. Once you are interviewed allegations of bias are more carefully considered. So, as an applicant, you want to get to the interview stage where bias would be less apparent. Similarly, try not to use "ethnic" names. People with obviously "ethnic" (Jose, Jesus, Leroy) get about 1/10th the response from prospective employers even with identical resumes (Yeah, MIT tested this.) This sucks and is manifestly unfair, but as a job applicant try not to burn the bridge before you get to it.
    2. Fat people are assumed to be lazy and to have ill health. Again, this sucks and is manifestly unfair, so don't include a picture.
    3. Discriminating against ugly people is understandable, though cruel and unfair, but discriminating against people for being too attractive? Yeah... if someone that hot worked here, all the guys (gals) would spend all their time chasing her (him) and not getting any work done. It's a burden to be stunningly beautiful or handsome, or devastatingly hot... so surprise people with it when you show up for the interview.
    All this sucks, but it is the real world. When someone sent us a resume with a picture, we removed it from the resume before sending it on to our clients.

    • @jeff-ramos
      @jeff-ramos 2 года назад

      💯! Beyond modeling or acting, there's literally no reason why a photo should be included on applications. On the applicant side, it's just an invitation for them to discriminate against you. From the business side, it opens you up to discrimination lawsuits whether or not you actually did. Appearance has nothing to do with job ability or creditworthiness whatsoever.

  • @danabe3220
    @danabe3220 2 года назад +2

    French is similar with it's formal and informal vous and tu.

  • @bryangarciayanes4185
    @bryangarciayanes4185 Год назад

    Same as with Spanish, at least in Latin America, in my country you say "usted" as formal "you", and "tu" as informal, you can also use "Vos" as even more informal, I'll use the last one just for close friends, but I'll never say "Vos" to my parents

  • @emknickerbocker
    @emknickerbocker 2 года назад

    I'm from the US and have lived in many apartments across the country and never had to submit a CV or picture for an application. However, I'm applying for student housing in Germany for a study abroad program next year and have been submitting applications with a more candid photo. Are applications typically rejected if it's not a formal "glamor shot"?

  • @DawnShipley1977
    @DawnShipley1977 2 года назад

    About the only time you need a picture of yourself on a job application here in the US is when you are trying to get a acting job in a play, movie, and TV.

  • @mel_ooo
    @mel_ooo 2 года назад

    regarding birthday parties it's pretty simple, if you're inviting people you're the one paying. not just birthdays but any type of event or party unless you agree to do it differently. and no i've also never been to a surprise birthday party or even heard of anyone around me planning one xD

  • @Faraway.G
    @Faraway.G 2 года назад

    Here in Bosnia
    Du = Ti
    Sie = Vi.
    On birthdays we get gifts but still paying for party 😁
    And when it comes to job aplication picture - I DO 🤣🤣🤣

  • @vudunghumg
    @vudunghumg 2 года назад

    It's quite normal when adding a picture on CV or job application in Vietnam. And now I'm studying in Germany, therefore i did not know that this thing is "not normal" in US :)))

  • @MichaEl-rh1kv
    @MichaEl-rh1kv 2 года назад

    Would be a regular surprise party at your birthday really a surprise? Would the surprise not rather be not to get a surprise party at your birthday?
    But seriously: I like to decide myself at what time in the year, the month, the week, the day and the hour I celebrate my birthday. For many years I celebrated only my Halfday - 6 months after my calendrical birthday (which is in the coldest time of winter, where you rarely can have an outdoor party).

  • @mvbmatheloesungen
    @mvbmatheloesungen 2 года назад +1

    I felt offended in the states when I was asked if Hitler is still living ...

  • @jeffreysahaida1111
    @jeffreysahaida1111 2 года назад

    One German thing I saw in Germany that wasn't mentioned. I used to do lots of biking to small farm towns and the countryside. One time I noticed a huge parade. The whole town was on the sides of the road and cheering. Some people and bands walked down the street and the last people were the bride and groom. Is that common in all of Germany or maybe just one off those things small towns do? I still have photos of it.

    • @AV-we6wo
      @AV-we6wo 2 года назад +1

      That's definitly a thing of small towns/villages where everyone knows either bride, bridegroom or someone from their families, so they all participate in the wedding.

  • @soundslight7754
    @soundslight7754 2 года назад

    The one thing very strange to borderline inconsiderate in Germany is when crossing the road on a zebbra crossing with the green lights showing you can cross, you still having to watch cars not running you over! BARBARIC!!

  • @Frauke-kk6sb
    @Frauke-kk6sb 2 года назад

    Ich hatte schon eine Überraschungsparty und habe auch schon eine geplant 🙈

  • @barbarapeck5804
    @barbarapeck5804 2 года назад +1

    Always be formal with people you don’t know no matter the age. If the older person tells you you it‘s ok to call them by there first name. I still have a hard time here in the states when people I don’t know call me by my first name or friends of my daughters friends call me Mom.

    • @emmib1388
      @emmib1388 2 года назад

      especially children -- no a child is not calling me by my first name ... I let them know they can call me Ms. and my first name..... We have become as a society too casual.

  • @vasinoc
    @vasinoc 2 года назад +3

    Well with the "du" and "sie" it's maybe the German perspective, but like you said it's kind of respect you show the other. In general I don't really care if someone is saying "du" or "sie", it really depends on the situation and /or circumstances or the relationship between each other.

  • @socalrockergal3727
    @socalrockergal3727 2 года назад

    Strange having a picture on a resume or CV in the USA. It’s customary for a group of friends to all pitch in for dinner & drinks for the birthday person. I like our birthday custom better!

  • @katertom
    @katertom 2 года назад

    I worked many years for a US company with more than 1000 employees in my country. Everyone used "Du" among the colleagues. I hated it, when a person I never had seen before called me and said: "Hello, here is Fritz". Then we got a new telephone system showing the name of the caller. It was implemented to show "Friedrich G.". Not much of a help either.

  • @nicoleschutz369
    @nicoleschutz369 2 года назад

    The latest in Ireland is NO PICTURE, suits me, as I am turning 50.

  • @matthiasscherer9270
    @matthiasscherer9270 2 года назад

    Movie: "Staplerfahrer Klaus", of course, who would not know him!

  • @natalie2699
    @natalie2699 2 года назад +2

    The reason it isn’t done in the US is so that there isn’t a bias against someone based on gender or race. It keeps the law upheld.

    • @Jiggleboi
      @Jiggleboi 2 года назад

      You are assuming it does anything.

  • @daimhaus
    @daimhaus 2 года назад

    When you're doing "Abitur" in "Oberstufe" even the teachers start addressing you with Sie

  • @joannewatson6874
    @joannewatson6874 2 года назад

    Here in Australia putting your photo on a job or apartment application would be just weird. Also we Aussies are a bit more informal, and I had a lot of trouble with sie when I visited Germany back in the 90’s

  • @ESUSAMEX
    @ESUSAMEX 2 года назад

    I now reside in Florida and I see people wearing winter hats when it 70 F outside. I just sweat by looking at them.