This game would be so much better if they removed the kick and charged homing attack and made it just one move. Super annoying to get hurt by an enemy because you had to kick it
I'm with you with the removal of the charged homing atteck, but the kick is useful aginst electric or shielded enemies, if improved it can shave you some time in certain routes.
@@kieranstark7213 we're talking about gameplay here, but if you want to fix the plot, oh boy you will need a ton of fixes to make something fron P&G decent, not good, just decent.
The idea of Sonic kicking enemies has potential, but it should be a combat move on its own. His legs are probably really strong with all the running he does so being able to demolish smaller enemies with a single kick is logical. The kicks could be more interesting if they were based on taekwondo or something like that too. Maybe even give him the ability to use multiple kicks in midair for lines of enemies, like the kind you see in taekwondo demonstrations where there's a line up of boards, and the person launches themself in the air with aid or by themself and breaks the boards in quick succession. Kicking multiple times to destroy enemies in a line is more efficient than, aim, attack, aim, attack, over and over again. Sonic attacking enemies by kicking isn't a bad idea. It just needs to be implemented well.
@@RenaissanceGirl we are talking about the shockwave that the kick makes in lost world leave the enemies stunned and break shields or orbitals, btw when sonic fights whitout running he uses mixed martial arts in conjuntion with break dance moves making kicks most of his moveset, kicking enemies in succesion can kill the chance to chain homing attacks that ends up being more effective in traversal, the shockwave is useful because is a ranged skill (your only one) to stun enemies with shields, electricity, orbitals that prevents you to attack them.
the parkour system has so much potential and could be great if it was refined a bit (making the homing kick and charged homing attack one move and making the bounce infinite) and i really want to see it with adventure’s level design, i think it could be really cool and it’s why i really like lost world stage mods
13:45 The writers of the meta era have been finally kicked, so let's hope for the best. 17:38 Hey, I was also stuck at these moments, so don't feel lonely.
You: "The writers of the meta era have been finally kicked, so let's hope for the best." Also you: "I don't care about the writing. It's a video game, not a movie. Gameplay is what matters."
You wanna know what my problem with Lost World is. Is that it ties to be so many things at once. One moment it's trying to be a classic Sonic game, the next it's trying to be Super Mario Galaxy.
I actually really like this Sonic game I have found memories of it and the parkour system was stood out to me and I honestly wish it made a comeback in some way.
for fanservice they know we like them but don't understand why you can't just shove fan favorite character in there and have do nothing i would've loved if amy and knuckles came along amy would've probably gave tails a good smack in the face for the way he was acting.
I loved this review As I once said talking to a friend, you're THE sonictuber I usually agree the most with And I'm really looking forward to the heroes review (I don't like Heroes; Like, i stand it way more than I do Shadow the Hedgehog to say something, and I think it's decent all things considered, but it's a game I cannot bring myself to enjoy)
@@Matthasnocuts I will have to agree with you on certain points: Sonic's portrayal in Lost World is good, because for a long time, I'm getting sick of Sonic being apathetic about the whole "Eggman is causing havoc on the world" thing. I like Sonic better when he's confident at first, but things don't always go his way, which is how reality works. In fact, it's one of the reasons I enjoy Sonic as a character in not only Adventure 1 and 2, but also in AoStH, Sonic SatAM, and of course, the Sonic OVA. I love a Sonic who is human, someone who struggles to fight certain threats. I will admit that there's a lot of lost potential with this game, mostly the lack of a proper 2-Player game that doesn't involve RC Toys. In fact, Sonic X-Ttreme had an idea of a two-player game that affects the story by who you play as to partner with Sonic; having Sonic partner with either Tiara Cyberooski or Sally Acorn. SEGA could've applied this scrapped idea to this game, so that communication to the characters aren't limited to the cutscenes, which sadly never happened.
This game had so much potential (gameplay-wise), man… it’s just such a cluster**** that suffers from a massive identity crisis. I’d love to see this style have another try, but I don’t see that happening…
"YOU THINK SONIC LOST WORLD IS GOOD?!" Yes,and I'm tired of pretending it's not Let me explain why: Lost World actually TRIED to stand out from the other 4 modern titles and experimented with a new style of level design They could've just made another boost game,but they said "hey,what if we do something similar to Mario Galaxy?" And yes,you can call it a ripoff,but to this day no one else had the audacity to use Galaxy's spherical levels for a 3D platformer Also,while the story wasn't all that great,you have to admit that its concepts were good(Eggman stealing the planet's life force could've easily been an Adventure-level premise) The music is a jam(I mean it's Sonic) and the parkour is satisfying I hope people really give this game a 2nd chance EDIT: Also,Sonic is a Th0t Slayer in this game Sonic:Oh,I'm so,so sorry Zeena:well,if that's the case..... Sonic: what I wanted to say is I'M SORRY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO IN LIFE *BEGONE TH0T*
The thing is they didn't need to make a new gameplay style the boost style was working ever since since unleash colors and generation but Sega never learns so they always try to change Sonic and when it fails instead of improving they just try and try again
@@TRG_R17 bruh what are you talking about, they perfected the boost mechanic in sonic generations, I had enough of that is it fun to use yeah and they can implement it here and there but that doesn't need to be the main focus if they are trying and experimenting and even excelling in using new mechanics, the fanbase just wants to crap on it when they don't get their way and act entitled and this is most of why Sega doesn't try new things, most of the sonic fanbase just wants the same Ole thing everytime instead of experimenting and expanding the possibilities of what sonic can do, trying new things that actually works and helped push the gameplay forward for the sonic franchise.
@@sonicmaiden2871 Agreed I loved the LoZ level in LW and Sonic surprisingly looked cool in Links clothes (iirc Bayonetta also got access to Links stuff in Bayo 2) meanwhile the last DLC Forces for was a Sanic T-shirt... :/
@@lynxfresh5214 I agree the DLCs in Sonic lost world were really good. Also the only good DLC in Sonic forces was episode Shadow which I believe that it should've been included in the game in the first place. To be fair, the Sega ips Avatar costumes DLCs were pretty cool but the sanic t-shirt and the super Sonic DLCs (this one should've been included in the game as well because It's one of the series staple) were lame.
This is one of my favorite sonic games. Yes the writing is bad but the gameplay is really fun. This gameplay formula has potential to improve definitely butI love Sonic lost world for what the game is. Sometimes I hope people can appreciate the game more for what it is
See, I think the Deadly Six are one-note on purpose, which I think is a good concept, the problem is that they are supposed to work off each other, each of them are supposed to be good TOGETHER, but they aren't, and when they're apart, they're even worse
It doesn't help that in the NiGHTs crossover it's heavily implied the Zeti aren't even native to Sonic's world (or dimension?, I forgot which one it was) and the JP version of LW even refers to them as "demons". Cool potential for lore right!?! Nope have your one dimension Saturday morning cartoon villains with a fraction of the charisma of Bowser and his Koopalins.
@@lynxfresh5214 The issue is that the japanese script is just not canon. They were just chilling on the Lost Hex doing nothing, until Eggman happened to find them.
sonic lost world was my first 3d sonic game and even though the story is bad and the originality in the levels are non-existent, the gameplay was so much fun and the parkour is so sastisfying when you know how to use it that all these just don't exist to me.
The thing I hated the most about this game was the level design. It’s so horribly paced and all over the place. At one point it wants to be a Sonic game, at another it wants to be a mario game. There are only a couple of levels that really stay consistent and don’t fluctuate between random ideas all the time.
The Sonic clone you were talking to looks like he got hit by a Dark Magic Attack. Also, best of luck reaching 11K subs! But we both know your channel deserves waaaaaay more than 11,000.
I think the games alright. There’s things I like about it and things I dislike about it. I really wish the parkour system could’ve been explored in more interesting ways. The levels almost never take advantage of it. I’d love to see SEGA try out the parkour system again though and I’d say it could work well with both the Adventure and Boost formula!
Dude this video was amazing, you encapsulated Sonic Lost World perfectly. I love the aesthetic of the game but it really feels out of place in the Sonic Universe. Anyways I subscribed! Can’t wait to see more videos!
I have the 3DS version of the game. I like it, and SOME of the mechanics have a lot of charm to them. But admittedly, the story could’ve been polished just a tad more, the gameplay could’ve been refined a lot more, and the goddamn motion controls could’ve been sent to the Shadow Realm with Matt’s dark avatar! But hey, the music was great, as it is in every Sonic game.
I remember really wanting to get this game years ago and I don't really know why. Years later, I finally got it on my Wii U and... I think it's decent! I enjoy the gameplay quite a bit, the level design is alright, the wisps, while unnecessary, are harmless at worst, the game looks great, the colors pop so much, it's runs super smooth, the soundtrack is a JAM, the controls are alright and yeah, the story is terrible
15:50 I disagree, mostly because I managed to do it in a fan game (Sonic Stranded, in one of special stages). The trick is rotating velocity during changes of gravity.
Really liked the review I’ve never played the game but it looks fun. Although I do have one problem and that’s what’s wrong with the desert and beach levels I mean Sonics done those tropes before.
The funny thing about them ripping off mario location settings is that it’s only from the new super Mario bros games they took from and what they took from 3D Mario was just the galaxy design lol
Sonic Lost World looks more of a Nintendo game to me than a Sega game, yet it got the quality of one. I still think it's fun, though. I like the parkour and I think Sega should had implemented it in other games for more flexible way of traversing
Here's a fun fact: Sonic did what Mario Galaxy did FIRST! Some people don't know it yet, but in Sonic 1, Scrap Brain Act 2 had circles where you could run over and Sonic was UPSIDE DOWN. And in 3D, it was in SA2 in some Sonic level I can't remember and in a level called Mad Space. They were just poorly programmed. Do you guys still think Lost World is a SMG rip-off?
I tried to play this game but the controls were just too awkward. Honestly, a normal homing attack and getting rid of the whole "run button" mechanic could have fixed it instantly, the rest I could have just gotten used to. Making a Sonic that controls well is really difficult for sega, apparently (the fans don't seem to have much trouble though)
10:42 one thing Sega could have done was make a boss fight of mech tails and at the end it would reveal that tails was pretending to be a robot like in the original not only will it show a scene of sonic and tails fighting each other but it would add gameplay value as well
Sonic 06 totally could've tied SA2, but the glitches and the jankiness in the gameplay destroyed its chances. The glitches were the only bad thing about the entire game, and that was shockingly enough to bring down the good story, character development, and dialogue.
While the rest of the Deadly koopaling are insufferable, I like the purple emo koopaling personally cuz he hates the pain of being in Sonic Lost World, which I can definitely relate to him whenever I have to suffer the painful storytelling Lost World offers and boring lvls. For real tho ya Lost World still has some underrated ideas, just sad it was executed poorly. If the lvl design was more creative instead of being a poor man's version of Mario Galaxy, then this game probably would have more recognition. Still the speedruns and dlcs for Lost World gameplay were the enjoyable parts of the game at least.
I personally love Lost World (specifically the 3DS version) because of the parkour mechanic. That's a move Sonic should've had a long time ago since he's supposed to be very agile and fluid with his movements. The boost formula games however continuously have him controlling like a tank and having stiff controls to the point of him not being suitable for platforming level design and hardly being fun to control. Lost World 3DS had you really making extensive use of the parkour mechanic to the point of being able to make shortcuts for yourself instead of relying on springs. Sky Road Zone 3 especially had those moments where you're parkouring from wall to wall over bottomless pits and there are hidden ring capsules, red rings and other goodies around various corners of the walls to find if you think outside the box with the parkour mechanic. In the end, Lost World 3DS remains one of my favorite games out of the Meta Era. I just wish Sonic Team continued to use the parkour mechanic and refine it in some ways to where it activates based on momentum and also utilizing the spin dash against walls. Essentially, have it work like in Lost World 3DS, but take out the run button.
zavok is alright...everyone else is shit the fact that sonic is slower is not bad,he's still fast...pretty fast,just not AS fast,and I kinda like the "effects" that appear in the screen when he goes fast...idk,I like it,along with the platforming and parkour
People say the 3DS version is just better and for what you say it's true. For example it literally teaches you the ENTIRE moveset in the first 3 levels as you cannot pass the first area without using each move at least once, and you don't do some absolute pro jumps. I really hope they make another parkour-based sonic game. Also Sonic Lost World 3DS, specifically its demo, was the title that brought me back into the franchise and I will always like this game for that too.
This game is like it was supposed to be a Saturday morning cartoon, but it was made into a game at the last minute, complete with hokey writing, a cutesy setting, simple and flat characterizations, and jokes best made for 2 year olds.... but hey at least the soundtrack is decent.
Sonic Lost World should have been a spinoff game, like a Tails solo game. And for marketing, call it Sonic the Hedgehog Presents... Tails Lost World. That way Tailscould have his own game style and series while not pissing off Sonic fans for not being "Sonic" enough in gameplay.
I remember when the game was advertised, while not happy with the theming in the levels, I thought locations would be revisited, and thought that would be a cool. It didn't happen until Forces and yeah, that felt very disjointed.
Regarding Tails reprogramming the computer, I actually enjoy the scene as it's cleverly foreshadowed earlier. Tails brags in Zone 1 about being able to reprogram a supercomputer with a toothpick and actually ends up doing so later. I got a kick out of that and wish we got more of those moments.
Remember When In A Cut Scene Of the Game, Amy tells Sonic That The Animals Back On the Main World Are Quote "Cold and Dead"? Best Game 10/6 Xbox Port When
I'm a broken record, I don't care. But honestly, if there was a bit more momentum gameplay involved, and the level styles weren't Mario Galaxy esque, its gameplay style could have possibly been something on par or close to the Adventure gameplay. It has so much untapped potential and it's unlikely we'll see it refined for its betterment.
The final boss in this game is my favorite stage, it is also my most replayed stage, and might be my favorite final boss stage in a sonic game so far (provided, I have not played fronteers)
Even tough lost world is not one of my favorite Sonic games out there, I enjoyed the game for what it was and I like the aesthetics. Honestly, the game has some unique ideas and sets itself apart from the other mainline games from the series! I played the pc version but I would like to try the 3ds version one day as well.
So I have 2 things to say, 1st you should check out the Sonic Lost World Improvement Mod, you should make a video about it and say Lost World is now the best sonic game, LMAO. 2nd I got this game but it's way too laggy for me to enjoy, 2-3 fps.
despite how badly they were written I have a soft spot for the deadly six. I wish they had actual effort put into them since i'm a big fan of ensemble villains. I have a soft spot for the game in general, I still find myself coming back to it every now and then just because
At points, I was wondering if I was watching the wrong video and this was about Colors instead. When it comes to the moves, I am pretty sure stuff has been taught in Hints, it has been a long time since I played. The only thing I don't like is that the max charge is dumb. It is too strong and beats even the final boss in 2 hits, even tho the boss is much better without that. And well, the thing you said about the second Zavok-fight. I had to look up how to beat him because I didn't expect max charge to be required for no reason.
Everyone always complains about how once Sonic Colors came out they didn't like the changes to the story and the jokes in the story and how apparently the Meta Era went downhill from there but it was very different for me. When Sonic Colors came out yes I noticed the difference between Jason Griffith Sonic and Roger Craig Smith Sonic yet I really loved the game and the jokes within the game and yeah it bugged me that it was just a simple short story yet at the time I felt like Sega was just taking a break from long serious stories like Sonic Unleashed and although Sonic and the Black Knight was short it did take itself seriously. Then Sonic Generations came out and again it was supposed to be an anniversary title which was why it was short and had to be kept simple so I didn't think much of it then either and really loved the game. For a long time I saw people complain about Sonic being more childish than before yet I always found those people to be overreacting like what was wrong with some comedy and some simple stories Sega is only taking a break they'll get back to stories like Sonic Unleashed and the Sonic Adventure games soon. But when Sonic Lost World came out and I experienced the Deadly Six and saw how incredibly predictable the story was despite it kind of going in a serious tone to make Sonic feel like he was all alone that's when I realized, "Oh my gosh! It's a Saturday morning cartoon! What have they done to you and everyone you know, Sonic?!" The Deadly Six were way too kiddish and way too one dimensional, Sonic and Tails seemed way too mean even towards Eggman though I admit I can see why they had trust issues with Eggman but, I don't know, I couldn't help but in a way feel like they were way too mean spirited, and there were no more moments where I was like, "Holy cow! I didn't see that coming!" Like what I always loved about Sonic games were the things that you didn't see coming like Elise being the Iblis Trigger, Chip being Light Gaia, Shahra from Secret Rings betraying Sonic yet sacrifices herself for him, Merlina turning out to be evil and King Arthur being a fake. All of those surprised were thrown out of the window and instead I saw Tails finding a very clever way to not be roboticized and coming out of his predicament free as can be with no boss fight with him. I hugely rolled my eyes! I even saw myself saying where's the boost? Is this what Sonic fans have been complaining about was how Sega changes everything even when things are good? Sega don't let me side with them here! I love Sonic no matter what and I don't hate the game and the story mode though I do admit it is one of my least favorites. Though I also admit for an awfully long time I stood up for Tails when he got mean spirited in that one scene till some years later Speed Super Sonic talked about it and I changed my mind. Lol I do have to say though when Matthasocuts was talking about how Sonic 06 did a great job at showing Sonic's shame in failing I was quite surprised to see the scene that he used as an example though I completely agreed with him though I do have to admit though I'm shocked that he skipped over another scene that perfectly well showed Sonic's shame in failing. It was the scene where Sonic, Silver, and Blaze are trying their best to catch Eggman's ship before it crashes yet it crashes and Sonic yells, "Elise!" Then he gets down on his knees real slowly with absolute dread on his face then he pounds his fist on the ground and stays there saying absolutely nothing till Silver brings up that they can go back in time and save Elise again. I most definitely felt like that was another perfect example of Sonic showing shame when he fails for you can absolutely feel his loss of losing Elise right there and his absolute grief my heart always tears itself open whenever I watch that scene. Poor Sonic;(
@Pink Morales it's not that bad, Tails was mostly bad here but he managed to get out and save sonic which was the best thing he did since sa2, the music is ight, the gameplay is cool, But everything else just kinda sux.
11:32 Well there is a time where Zavok straight up abandons his team on the Lost Hex cause they lost to Sonic. Something similar could’ve happened here. Though Sonic killing them is slightly funny.
Sonic Lost World suffers from a horrible story and bad writing. The Gameplay is fun, the aesthetic is something I really enjoy and the music is really good. Windy Hill slaps till this day. I am a way bigger fan of the darker and more character driven stories and aesthetics like with Frontiers, Unleashed, and Generations (I know that’s not character driven but you know what I mean). Not all of the writing is bad I think Sonic had one line that had me sending with laughter.
I absolutely love the 3DS version but this video is about the Wii U version. I’m not done with the Wii U version yet, I’m on Sky Road Zone 2 but so far I like it but it’s not really a game I would like to go back to. (Hence why I haven’t finished it yet.) I just feel like Sonic is too slow and it just doesn’t really feel like a Sonic game. (Well expect for the 2D sections) but still, it’s decent but It’s not a game I would really go back too.
This is my least favorite Sonic game tied with Forces. I had so many bad experiences with it when it came out doing everything especially those red rings which I will never do again. If Forces for me is tied as my least favorite in the series because of it's lack of passion seeping through it at the seems than Lost World is my least favorite due to my personal experiences with it, having barely any fun with what it has to offer. The most fun I ever had was the Zelda crossover level.
I’ve always said that Lost World should have gotten a sequel. The story is pretty crappy and the less focus on the story, the better off Sonic games are in my opinion. But it felt so cool to just run around the levels as opposed to just boosting through corridors. And they relied way too much on the 2D sections. Sonic Team will probably never revisit a game like this, and we’ll be stuck with boost games.
@@theappskid1161 They didn’t have to be bland. Sonic Team was just not very used to crafting interesting levels to explore because their specialty is boost style gameplay.
@@AstonishingRed for what they did it was a good start, maybe polish up some things some more but Sega did okay for trying out something like Lost World, they could've eventually perfected and mastered it but now it may seem like we will ever get a game like that ever again due to fan back lash instead of letting them make improvements and seeing it grow.
You are the only one who doesn't blindly hate this game. And I actually glad with this review because it was fair and well written. I dunno why but I love this game!
this was the fourth sonic game i ever played, the other three being Secret Rings, Rush, and Chronicles in that order. ... i didnt play a normal mainline sonic game until like 2020 also on a side note, i was able to beat all of lost world without spin dashing once this was because my controler had a broken trigger i didnt even know spin dashing was even in the game until i watched other people on youtube
This game would be so much better if they removed the kick and charged homing attack and made it just one move. Super annoying to get hurt by an enemy because you had to kick it
I'm with you with the removal of the charged homing atteck, but the kick is useful aginst electric or shielded enemies, if improved it can shave you some time in certain routes.
It would especially be better if the characters (especially Tails and Zeena) were, you know, IN CHARACTER!!!!!
@@kieranstark7213 we're talking about gameplay here, but if you want to fix the plot, oh boy you will need a ton of fixes to make something fron P&G decent, not good, just decent.
The idea of Sonic kicking enemies has potential, but it should be a combat move on its own. His legs are probably really strong with all the running he does so being able to demolish smaller enemies with a single kick is logical. The kicks could be more interesting if they were based on taekwondo or something like that too. Maybe even give him the ability to use multiple kicks in midair for lines of enemies, like the kind you see in taekwondo demonstrations where there's a line up of boards, and the person launches themself in the air with aid or by themself and breaks the boards in quick succession. Kicking multiple times to destroy enemies in a line is more efficient than, aim, attack, aim, attack, over and over again. Sonic attacking enemies by kicking isn't a bad idea. It just needs to be implemented well.
@@RenaissanceGirl we are talking about the shockwave that the kick makes in lost world leave the enemies stunned and break shields or orbitals, btw when sonic fights whitout running he uses mixed martial arts in conjuntion with break dance moves making kicks most of his moveset, kicking enemies in succesion can kill the chance to chain homing attacks that ends up being more effective in traversal, the shockwave is useful because is a ranged skill (your only one) to stun enemies with shields, electricity, orbitals that prevents you to attack them.
the parkour system has so much potential and could be great if it was refined a bit (making the homing kick and charged homing attack one move and making the bounce infinite) and i really want to see it with adventure’s level design, i think it could be really cool and it’s why i really like lost world stage mods
13:45 The writers of the meta era have been finally kicked, so let's hope for the best.
17:38 Hey, I was also stuck at these moments, so don't feel lonely.
You: "The writers of the meta era have been finally kicked, so let's hope for the best."
Also you: "I don't care about the writing. It's a video game, not a movie. Gameplay is what matters."
@@DanielFahimi Yes, I don't care. So here are still no contradictions.
For me, good stories are just nice additions.
@@skape924 If you don't care about writing, go join Ian Flynn's cult.
@@skape924 Doesn't matter if you see this, you're objectively right.
You wanna know what my problem with Lost World is. Is that it ties to be so many things at once. One moment it's trying to be a classic Sonic game, the next it's trying to be Super Mario Galaxy.
And another moment it turns to new super mario bros with the simple 2d sections
@@darealepic And then there’s the snowball level
@@KYRA_RISING And Then There The Grand Rails Stage
@@TRG_R17 and then there's a Mach speed stage
I actually really like this Sonic game I have found memories of it and the parkour system was stood out to me and I honestly wish it made a comeback in some way.
Btw why was Knux and Amy even in this game? (They even got less screentime and lines than Orbot and Cubot).
for fanservice they know we like them but don't understand why you can't just shove fan favorite character in there and have do nothing i would've loved if amy and knuckles came along amy would've probably gave tails a good smack in the face for the way he was acting.
I loved this review
As I once said talking to a friend, you're THE sonictuber I usually agree the most with
And I'm really looking forward to the heroes review
(I don't like Heroes; Like, i stand it way more than I do Shadow the Hedgehog to say something, and I think it's decent all things considered, but it's a game I cannot bring myself to enjoy)
It's very hard for Sonic Heroes to hold my interest so I can relate to you on that. Anyways, thanks for watching!
@@Matthasnocuts I will have to agree with you on certain points: Sonic's portrayal in Lost World is good, because for a long time, I'm getting sick of Sonic being apathetic about the whole "Eggman is causing havoc on the world" thing. I like Sonic better when he's confident at first, but things don't always go his way, which is how reality works. In fact, it's one of the reasons I enjoy Sonic as a character in not only Adventure 1 and 2, but also in AoStH, Sonic SatAM, and of course, the Sonic OVA. I love a Sonic who is human, someone who struggles to fight certain threats. I will admit that there's a lot of lost potential with this game, mostly the lack of a proper 2-Player game that doesn't involve RC Toys. In fact, Sonic X-Ttreme had an idea of a two-player game that affects the story by who you play as to partner with Sonic; having Sonic partner with either Tiara Cyberooski or Sally Acorn. SEGA could've applied this scrapped idea to this game, so that communication to the characters aren't limited to the cutscenes, which sadly never happened.
This game had so much potential (gameplay-wise), man… it’s just such a cluster**** that suffers from a massive identity crisis. I’d love to see this style have another try, but I don’t see that happening…
My thoughts exactly.
A great review on a great game... fantastic work on this, Matt! Can't wait for Cisco to be the happiest person in the world on the Heroes review...
Yup
never thought id see you here
"YOU THINK SONIC LOST WORLD IS GOOD?!"
Yes,and I'm tired of pretending it's not
Let me explain why:
Lost World actually TRIED to stand out from the other 4 modern titles and experimented with a new style of level design
They could've just made another boost game,but they said "hey,what if we do something similar to Mario Galaxy?"
And yes,you can call it a ripoff,but to this day no one else had the audacity to use Galaxy's spherical levels for a 3D platformer
Also,while the story wasn't all that great,you have to admit that its concepts were good(Eggman stealing the planet's life force could've easily been an Adventure-level premise)
The music is a jam(I mean it's Sonic) and the parkour is satisfying
I hope people really give this game a 2nd chance
EDIT: Also,Sonic is a Th0t Slayer in this game
Sonic:Oh,I'm so,so sorry
Zeena:well,if that's the case.....
Sonic: what I wanted to say is
I'M SORRY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO IN LIFE
*BEGONE TH0T*
Nice
Blame the fanbase.
I agree lost World is actually pretty fun
The thing is they didn't need to make a new gameplay style the boost style was working ever since since unleash colors and generation but Sega never learns so they always try to change Sonic and when it fails instead of improving they just try and try again
@@TRG_R17 bruh what are you talking about, they perfected the boost mechanic in sonic generations, I had enough of that is it fun to use yeah and they can implement it here and there but that doesn't need to be the main focus if they are trying and experimenting and even excelling in using new mechanics, the fanbase just wants to crap on it when they don't get their way and act entitled and this is most of why Sega doesn't try new things, most of the sonic fanbase just wants the same Ole thing everytime instead of experimenting and expanding the possibilities of what sonic can do, trying new things that actually works and helped push the gameplay forward for the sonic franchise.
I personally liked this game in my eyes this game was kinda underrated
Yeah. It's pretty underrated. And clearly Sega put more effort into this one than forces.
@@sonicmaiden2871 Agreed I loved the LoZ level in LW and Sonic surprisingly looked cool in Links clothes (iirc Bayonetta also got access to Links stuff in Bayo 2) meanwhile the last DLC Forces for was a Sanic T-shirt... :/
@@lynxfresh5214 the only good thing about forces was playable shadow.
you can say that about a lot of sonic games
@@lynxfresh5214 I agree the DLCs in Sonic lost world were really good. Also the only good DLC in Sonic forces was episode Shadow which I believe that it should've been included in the game in the first place. To be fair, the Sega ips Avatar costumes DLCs were pretty cool but the sanic t-shirt and the super Sonic DLCs (this one should've been included in the game as well because It's one of the series staple) were lame.
This is one of my favorite sonic games. Yes the writing is bad but the gameplay is really fun. This gameplay formula has potential to improve definitely butI love Sonic lost world for what the game is. Sometimes I hope people can appreciate the game more for what it is
Same. It was really good
See, I think the Deadly Six are one-note on purpose, which I think is a good concept, the problem is that they are supposed to work off each other, each of them are supposed to be good TOGETHER, but they aren't, and when they're apart, they're even worse
It doesn't help that in the NiGHTs crossover it's heavily implied the Zeti aren't even native to Sonic's world (or dimension?, I forgot which one it was) and the JP version of LW even refers to them as "demons". Cool potential for lore right!?!
Nope have your one dimension Saturday morning cartoon villains with a fraction of the charisma of Bowser and his Koopalins.
@@lynxfresh5214 The issue is that the japanese script is just not canon. They were just chilling on the Lost Hex doing nothing, until Eggman happened to find them.
sonic lost world was my first 3d sonic game and even though the story is bad and the originality in the levels are non-existent, the gameplay was so much fun and the parkour is so sastisfying when you know how to use it that all these just don't exist to me.
The thing I hated the most about this game was the level design. It’s so horribly paced and all over the place. At one point it wants to be a Sonic game, at another it wants to be a mario game. There are only a couple of levels that really stay consistent and don’t fluctuate between random ideas all the time.
I LOVE the gameplay of this game for the most part but YES, THAT MISSED OPPURTUNITY POTENTIAL TAILS BOSS FIGHT PISSED ME OFF SO MUCH!
The Sonic clone you were talking to looks like he got hit by a Dark Magic Attack.
Also, best of luck reaching 11K subs! But we both know your channel deserves waaaaaay more than 11,000.
It's nice seeing other people who like Sonic Lost World. Though, I played the Ds version
Yea the 3ds version is crap, but the Wii u version is great.
3DS version is crap??
I think the games alright. There’s things I like about it and things I dislike about it.
I really wish the parkour system could’ve been explored in more interesting ways. The levels almost never take advantage of it.
I’d love to see SEGA try out the parkour system again though and I’d say it could work well with both the Adventure and Boost formula!
Dude this video was amazing, you encapsulated Sonic Lost World perfectly. I love the aesthetic of the game but it really feels out of place in the Sonic Universe. Anyways I subscribed! Can’t wait to see more videos!
I have the 3DS version of the game. I like it, and SOME of the mechanics have a lot of charm to them. But admittedly, the story could’ve been polished just a tad more, the gameplay could’ve been refined a lot more, and the goddamn motion controls could’ve been sent to the Shadow Realm with Matt’s dark avatar! But hey, the music was great, as it is in every Sonic game.
Yami Matt is my favorite villain.
I remember really wanting to get this game years ago and I don't really know why. Years later, I finally got it on my Wii U and... I think it's decent! I enjoy the gameplay quite a bit, the level design is alright, the wisps, while unnecessary, are harmless at worst, the game looks great, the colors pop so much, it's runs super smooth, the soundtrack is a JAM, the controls are alright and yeah, the story is terrible
15:50 I disagree, mostly because I managed to do it in a fan game (Sonic Stranded, in one of special stages). The trick is rotating velocity during changes of gravity.
Really liked the review I’ve never played the game but it looks fun. Although I do have one problem and that’s what’s wrong with the desert and beach levels I mean Sonics done those tropes before.
The funny thing about them ripping off mario location settings is that it’s only from the new super Mario bros games they took from and what they took from 3D Mario was just the galaxy design lol
Say what you want about Lostworld but this is the game to introduce our *RED* lord and savior
Sonic Lost World looks more of a Nintendo game to me than a Sega game, yet it got the quality of one. I still think it's fun, though. I like the parkour and I think Sega should had implemented it in other games for more flexible way of traversing
Here's a fun fact:
Sonic did what Mario Galaxy did FIRST! Some people don't know it yet, but in Sonic 1, Scrap Brain Act 2 had circles where you could run over and Sonic was UPSIDE DOWN. And in 3D, it was in SA2 in some Sonic level I can't remember and in a level called Mad Space. They were just poorly programmed.
Do you guys still think Lost World is a SMG rip-off?
If this game didn't have sonic it would be considered a good game guaranteed
I tried to play this game but the controls were just too awkward. Honestly, a normal homing attack and getting rid of the whole "run button" mechanic could have fixed it instantly, the rest I could have just gotten used to. Making a Sonic that controls well is really difficult for sega, apparently (the fans don't seem to have much trouble though)
Even though there were generic level themes, there was a Casino level, a Sweet level, a Fruit level, 3 Ruins levels, and even a Dragon level.
10:42 one thing Sega could have done was make a boss fight of mech tails and at the end it would reveal that tails was pretending to be a robot like in the original not only will it show a scene of sonic and tails fighting each other but it would add gameplay value as well
12:30 me to bud.
this format works way better for you. well done!
Sonic 06 totally could've tied SA2, but the glitches and the jankiness in the gameplay destroyed its chances. The glitches were the only bad thing about the entire game, and that was shockingly enough to bring down the good story, character development, and dialogue.
While the rest of the Deadly koopaling are insufferable, I like the purple emo koopaling personally cuz he hates the pain of being in Sonic Lost World, which I can definitely relate to him whenever I have to suffer the painful storytelling Lost World offers and boring lvls. For real tho ya Lost World still has some underrated ideas, just sad it was executed poorly. If the lvl design was more creative instead of being a poor man's version of Mario Galaxy, then this game probably would have more recognition. Still the speedruns and dlcs for Lost World gameplay were the enjoyable parts of the game at least.
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I personally love Lost World (specifically the 3DS version) because of the parkour mechanic. That's a move Sonic should've had a long time ago since he's supposed to be very agile and fluid with his movements. The boost formula games however continuously have him controlling like a tank and having stiff controls to the point of him not being suitable for platforming level design and hardly being fun to control. Lost World 3DS had you really making extensive use of the parkour mechanic to the point of being able to make shortcuts for yourself instead of relying on springs. Sky Road Zone 3 especially had those moments where you're parkouring from wall to wall over bottomless pits and there are hidden ring capsules, red rings and other goodies around various corners of the walls to find if you think outside the box with the parkour mechanic. In the end, Lost World 3DS remains one of my favorite games out of the Meta Era. I just wish Sonic Team continued to use the parkour mechanic and refine it in some ways to where it activates based on momentum and also utilizing the spin dash against walls. Essentially, have it work like in Lost World 3DS, but take out the run button.
Once I get to Tropical Coast, Idk if I should be reminded of just Normal Mario or Super Mario 3D World.
I've only played Lost World on 3DS and that game is...very rough to say the least. And I'm excited for the Sonic Heroes review.
The Deadly Six are the Koopalings, except Bowser is way more hilarious as a leader than Zavok
zavok is alright...everyone else is shit
the fact that sonic is slower is not bad,he's still fast...pretty fast,just not AS fast,and I kinda like the "effects" that appear in the screen when he goes fast...idk,I like it,along with the platforming and parkour
Don't worry past Mat. Sonic will get a good story soon...
People say the 3DS version is just better and for what you say it's true. For example it literally teaches you the ENTIRE moveset in the first 3 levels as you cannot pass the first area without using each move at least once, and you don't do some absolute pro jumps. I really hope they make another parkour-based sonic game.
Also Sonic Lost World 3DS, specifically its demo, was the title that brought me back into the franchise and I will always like this game for that too.
Your dream of tails turned into a robot actually happened in the sonic boom show and he was mind controlled
This game is like it was supposed to be a Saturday morning cartoon, but it was made into a game at the last minute, complete with hokey writing, a cutesy setting, simple and flat characterizations, and jokes best made for 2 year olds.... but hey at least the soundtrack is decent.
Sonic Lost World should have been a spinoff game, like a Tails solo game. And for marketing, call it Sonic the Hedgehog Presents... Tails Lost World. That way Tailscould have his own game style and series while not pissing off Sonic fans for not being "Sonic" enough in gameplay.
1:41 Ngl, I was expecting a Mario comparison there.
Same
This game is underrated and had many good ideas
"I love Sonic Lost World But it sucks"
I love mom's cooking but it tastes horrible
Suddenly you have every mom in the world going after you.
@@lpfan4491 lmfao
I remember when the game was advertised, while not happy with the theming in the levels, I thought locations would be revisited, and thought that would be a cool. It didn't happen until Forces and yeah, that felt very disjointed.
The 3ds ver is the story + the level design from bigs fishing stages
I wish they’d polish the parkour system in a new game. It was fun to use
Regarding Tails reprogramming the computer, I actually enjoy the scene as it's cleverly foreshadowed earlier. Tails brags in Zone 1 about being able to reprogram a supercomputer with a toothpick and actually ends up doing so later. I got a kick out of that and wish we got more of those moments.
Yeah, and more moments of Sonic not being a complete douchebag to the point of not relying on his own true friends.
Remember When In A Cut Scene Of the Game, Amy tells Sonic That The Animals Back On the Main World Are Quote "Cold and Dead"?
Best Game 10/6 Xbox Port When
I'm a broken record, I don't care.
But honestly, if there was a bit more momentum gameplay involved, and the level styles weren't Mario Galaxy esque, its gameplay style could have possibly been something on par or close to the Adventure gameplay. It has so much untapped potential and it's unlikely we'll see it refined for its betterment.
We all have opinions Matt, and i respect yours.
late to the party but really great video! i remember wanting 3ds just to play lost world when it came out lmao. Can’t wait for the heroes one
The final boss in this game is my favorite stage, it is also my most replayed stage, and might be my favorite final boss stage in a sonic game so far (provided, I have not played fronteers)
Even tough lost world is not one of my favorite Sonic games out there, I enjoyed the game for what it was and I like the aesthetics. Honestly, the game has some unique ideas and sets itself apart from the other mainline games from the series! I played the pc version but I would like to try the 3ds version one day as well.
One of my favorite sonic games, but I'm a Mario fan. My take from this is that it's not a good Sonic game, but is a great platformer IMO.
So I have 2 things to say, 1st you should check out the Sonic Lost World Improvement Mod, you should make a video about it and say Lost World is now the best sonic game, LMAO. 2nd I got this game but it's way too laggy for me to enjoy, 2-3 fps.
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R.I.P Matthascuts
despite how badly they were written I have a soft spot for the deadly six. I wish they had actual effort put into them since i'm a big fan of ensemble villains. I have a soft spot for the game in general, I still find myself coming back to it every now and then just because
go read metal virus
@@saiqa7130 that’s from the comics right? Where can I read them
At points, I was wondering if I was watching the wrong video and this was about Colors instead.
When it comes to the moves, I am pretty sure stuff has been taught in Hints, it has been a long time since I played. The only thing I don't like is that the max charge is dumb. It is too strong and beats even the final boss in 2 hits, even tho the boss is much better without that. And well, the thing you said about the second Zavok-fight. I had to look up how to beat him because I didn't expect max charge to be required for no reason.
Even though the final boss is technically the first of a series of colors boss ctrl + v’s, it was still pretty cool
Colors' final boss is a highly "inspired" boss itself. So, eh.
@@lpfan4491 not sure what you mean
@@promiseomiponle810 It is essencially Secret Ring's first boss+Wisps.
@@lpfan4491 hmm interesting I’ll go see how that is for myself
Everyone always complains about how once Sonic Colors came out they didn't like the changes to the story and the jokes in the story and how apparently the Meta Era went downhill from there but it was very different for me.
When Sonic Colors came out yes I noticed the difference between Jason Griffith Sonic and Roger Craig Smith Sonic yet I really loved the game and the jokes within the game and yeah it bugged me that it was just a simple short story yet at the time I felt like Sega was just taking a break from long serious stories like Sonic Unleashed and although Sonic and the Black Knight was short it did take itself seriously.
Then Sonic Generations came out and again it was supposed to be an anniversary title which was why it was short and had to be kept simple so I didn't think much of it then either and really loved the game.
For a long time I saw people complain about Sonic being more childish than before yet I always found those people to be overreacting like what was wrong with some comedy and some simple stories Sega is only taking a break they'll get back to stories like Sonic Unleashed and the Sonic Adventure games soon.
But when Sonic Lost World came out and I experienced the Deadly Six and saw how incredibly predictable the story was despite it kind of going in a serious tone to make Sonic feel like he was all alone that's when I realized,
"Oh my gosh! It's a Saturday morning cartoon! What have they done to you and everyone you know, Sonic?!"
The Deadly Six were way too kiddish and way too one dimensional, Sonic and Tails seemed way too mean even towards Eggman though I admit I can see why they had trust issues with Eggman but, I don't know, I couldn't help but in a way feel like they were way too mean spirited, and there were no more moments where I was like, "Holy cow! I didn't see that coming!" Like what I always loved about Sonic games were the things that you didn't see coming like Elise being the Iblis Trigger, Chip being Light Gaia, Shahra from Secret Rings betraying Sonic yet sacrifices herself for him, Merlina turning out to be evil and King Arthur being a fake. All of those surprised were thrown out of the window and instead I saw Tails finding a very clever way to not be roboticized and coming out of his predicament free as can be with no boss fight with him. I hugely rolled my eyes!
I even saw myself saying where's the boost? Is this what Sonic fans have been complaining about was how Sega changes everything even when things are good? Sega don't let me side with them here!
I love Sonic no matter what and I don't hate the game and the story mode though I do admit it is one of my least favorites. Though I also admit for an awfully long time I stood up for Tails when he got mean spirited in that one scene till some years later Speed Super Sonic talked about it and I changed my mind. Lol
I do have to say though when Matthasocuts was talking about how Sonic 06 did a great job at showing Sonic's shame in failing I was quite surprised to see the scene that he used as an example though I completely agreed with him though I do have to admit though I'm shocked that he skipped over another scene that perfectly well showed Sonic's shame in failing.
It was the scene where Sonic, Silver, and Blaze are trying their best to catch Eggman's ship before it crashes yet it crashes and Sonic yells,
"Elise!"
Then he gets down on his knees real slowly with absolute dread on his face then he pounds his fist on the ground and stays there saying absolutely nothing till Silver brings up that they can go back in time and save Elise again.
I most definitely felt like that was another perfect example of Sonic showing shame when he fails for you can absolutely feel his loss of losing Elise right there and his absolute grief my heart always tears itself open whenever I watch that scene. Poor Sonic;(
This game is super underrated.
you can say that about a lot of sonic games
@Pink Morales it's not that bad, Tails was mostly bad here but he managed to get out and save sonic which was the best thing he did since sa2, the music is ight, the gameplay is cool, But everything else just kinda sux.
@Pink Morales that's what I mean by saying everything else kinda sux.
There is one thing I disliked is that sonic barely felt like he cared at the end and didn't get surprised when eggman showed up after falling
7:28 that was eggman showing his inner robotnik
I liked when Amy called Sonic and passed out, Sonic seemed worried
I played Lost world in 3ds It was good but It doesn't fell like a sonic Game and the controls are to bad
Don't ever bruh me like this again 12:30
The story would be better with only Sonic and Eggman in a Adventure, similar to Crash Twinsanity
11:32 Well there is a time where Zavok straight up abandons his team on the Lost Hex cause they lost to Sonic. Something similar could’ve happened here.
Though Sonic killing them is slightly funny.
Sonic Lost World suffers from a horrible story and bad writing. The Gameplay is fun, the aesthetic is something I really enjoy and the music is really good. Windy Hill slaps till this day. I am a way bigger fan of the darker and more character driven stories and aesthetics like with Frontiers, Unleashed, and Generations (I know that’s not character driven but you know what I mean). Not all of the writing is bad I think Sonic had one line that had me sending with laughter.
I got the game when it was on sale for 7.49 dollars and I felt the same way.
I've been waiting for this day my whole life
I absolutely love the 3DS version but this video is about the Wii U version. I’m not done with the Wii U version yet, I’m on Sky Road Zone 2 but so far I like it but it’s not really a game I would like to go back to. (Hence why I haven’t finished it yet.) I just feel like Sonic is too slow and it just doesn’t really feel like a Sonic game. (Well expect for the 2D sections) but still, it’s decent but It’s not a game I would really go back too.
Sandoppolis, Emerald Coast, And Lava Reef Zone At 4:42 : I gUeSs I dOn'T mAtTeR...
This is the first time i saw your face bruh
You forgot to mention the bounce bracelet and the super peel out
This is my least favorite Sonic game tied with Forces. I had so many bad experiences with it when it came out doing everything especially those red rings which I will never do again. If Forces for me is tied as my least favorite in the series because of it's lack of passion seeping through it at the seems than Lost World is my least favorite due to my personal experiences with it, having barely any fun with what it has to offer. The most fun I ever had was the Zelda crossover level.
I love the wall run mechanic
Funny thing The Deadly 6 and Eggman would represent each 1 of The 7 Deadly Sins
4:05 Kate Higgins: what about me
I've just read the title and this video nails it already 👌
...How is Lost Hex on the same planet as the Starfall Islands??
Unpopular? I thought it was kinda famous in the Sonic community for being a Mario knockoff.
Gfy
I've always thought sonic lost world seemed like a 2nd attempt at sonic xtreme
I wanna see a more open world Sonic where Sonic controls like a race car and has the parkour ability.
this is why i love sonic colors even know it's not a 3d sonic game and ultimate is worse I still enjoyed this game
I’ve always said that Lost World should have gotten a sequel. The story is pretty crappy and the less focus on the story, the better off Sonic games are in my opinion. But it felt so cool to just run around the levels as opposed to just boosting through corridors. And they relied way too much on the 2D sections. Sonic Team will probably never revisit a game like this, and we’ll be stuck with boost games.
Blame the fanbase.
@@BayScrilla510 I know 😞
While I also don't particularly like the boost, I don't care about getting to run around the levels because they're extremely bland.
@@theappskid1161 They didn’t have to be bland. Sonic Team was just not very used to crafting interesting levels to explore because their specialty is boost style gameplay.
@@AstonishingRed for what they did it was a good start, maybe polish up some things some more but Sega did okay for trying out something like Lost World, they could've eventually perfected and mastered it but now it may seem like we will ever get a game like that ever again due to fan back lash instead of letting them make improvements and seeing it grow.
That part where tails got mad cause sonic didn't trust him and yeah that was kinda dumb and tails turning himself good was just stupid
Sonic lost world's super sonic literally uses a boost system
I guess sega regretted it
I love both versions of this game, yes there are flaws but what game doesn't
You are the only one who doesn't blindly hate this game. And I actually glad with this review because it was fair and well written.
I dunno why but I love this game!
I adore Lost World mainly for the unique parkour system, and I skip the cutscenes mainly because I'm more interested in gameplay.
One question: why didn't you talk about the scene when Eggman saves Sonic before falling into the lava pit ?
this was the fourth sonic game i ever played, the other three being Secret Rings, Rush, and Chronicles in that order.
... i didnt play a normal mainline sonic game until like 2020
also on a side note, i was able to beat all of lost world without spin dashing once
this was because my controler had a broken trigger
i didnt even know spin dashing was even in the game until i watched other people on youtube