Sonic Lost World 3DS - Sonic Was Always Good
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- I can never get over how that key art for Lost World has Sonic's eyes misaligned. How does something like that even happen?
A few things I once again didn't mention in the video.
As you can see a few times in the gameplay, the multi-homing attack in this game has some issues. It keeps the lock on an enemy long after they go off screen and get far away. So you try to attack one thing, and then fly back. Pretty annoying, but not game ruining.
They brought the elemental shields back. No abilities, but still cool. They work well with the elemental wisp effects and hazards.
This game is also less padded out than the main game. They ditched collecting animals in this. Which is good. Now it's just a game that you get to play.
There are extra acts you can unlock by getting all the red rings in a zone. They're remixed levels focused on wisps. Kinda cool, and a great reward for red rings. If I actually wanted to collect them.
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"Has some good stuff but some annoying stuff" is the most common criticism in all of Sonic that applies to almost every Sonic game there is.
Yeah, but it's Sonic Lost World for 3DS, it's different
It can also apply to a lot of games and lots of pieces of media!
that statement could be applied to most things in life its a nothing sentence.
"I'm pretty sure 0% people on planet Earth care about this game" Ok, then what planet am I on, exactly?
The Lost Hex
ShmEarth
lost hex
@@Rainyar4779Exactly. Because there IS a percentage HIGHER than 0% in here, where I live.
Special stages on a 3ds are insane, when you're trying to turn sonic but your body doesn't bend a certain way because you've already twisted yourself in ways you never thought you could, makes your heart race. For real.
I had to walk into the laundry room where nobody was so I could stand & turn around to my hearts content. Ngl the stages were actually a lot easier & kinda fun. Otherwise I HATED them.
its quite cool tbh reminds me of the game face raiders
Not to mention, RIP anyone recording their 3DS gameplay for any reason. You can't do that wirelessly so you either risk damaging the cable, damaging the hardware mods, or failing to play the stages.
I did it around my friends in the school library, taking turns flailing around and it was hysterical
Bois, we must ensure that Pariah never escapes Lost World. We must turn him into the Lost World RUclipsr. We'll have him make videos on Top 10 Lost World levels, Top 10 3DS Lost World levels, how to improve Lost World, Calling Lost World At 3:00 A.M. We must ensure he NEVER escapes😈
YES!
Calling Lost World at 3 AM 🤣
If you get a DM from Sonic Lost World DO NOT REPLY
Wait for the Zavok character analysis to drop
Zavok was always good.
Im gonna tell my kids this was Sonic Xtreme
I grew up playing this game as a kid, I used to love it so much, i had like 50+ hrs in it and i somehow was able to look past all the crap, i had a wii u but i only ever played this version (till 2021 atleast) but looking back on it, this version has a good first world and then quickly nose dives. This game 100% handles parkour better tho, they actually use the parkour mechanic well and they make it have a reason to exist
The camera on those 2D sections is sad because the actual gameplay and design of them looks SO MUCH better than the 2D of the console version, it _actually looks like a typical 2D Sonic game!_ Sonic's not agonizingly slow like on console, he's much faster, and actually looks like he plays like some sort of Sonic game (you almost can't tell it's a Run Button game), the level design looks like Sonic level design, it's got the flow and the skips and all that, just now with the parkour as well which just adds even more to the gameplay and helping maintain your flow. It just looks like a 2D Sonic game with a parkour mechanic, which looks fun, sometimes it even looks a bit reminiscent of Rush here and there. But they decided to zoom the freaking camera in so much that you can't see crap and it ends up greatly harming the whole experience, I wonder just how much a camera zoom out mod would do to improve them.
The Camera zoom in 2d just like the gimmick stages feel like they happened as executive order from above for parity with the console version.
I ones even heard that Lost Worlds WiiU was suppose to have more stage but was rushed by the end. If that is true could I image that some of Lost worlds 3ds more bloated stages are this way because they manged to get more stages finished but to keep parity with the WiiU did they have to have the same number of stages as WiiU and as such were a few finished staged glued together to make them 1 longer stage (kind of an inverse of Colors Wii).
If any of this is true do I wonder how good lost World 3ds could have been if Dimps could have done what they wanted to do and weren't tied down to keeping parity with Sonic Team's efforts.
@@rynobehnke8289 Thing is though, the 2D sections in the console version aren't even that zoomed in. Sometimes they can be quite zoomed out even, there's a lot more variance on Wii U with the 2D camera.
@@legoboy7107
I guess. Tho its worth remembering that Dimps perhaps wasn't always informed about all changes done to Lost World WiiU during development so I can totally see that Lost Worlds WiiU was originally planed to always have a highly zoomed in Camera and Dimps only had to work off that on the design document Sega gave them.
Highkey, wonder how many sonic games would be straight-up improved by more screen real estate in general. I'd say the advance games (particularly 2 and 3 (particularly particularly 2, good lord)) are a good example
@@igirjei3717All of them, period. Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3, the 8-bit games, the Advance trilogy, the Rush games, the Sonic 4 games, the Sonic Colors games, the Sonic Generations games, the Lost World games, the Boom games, Mania, Forces, Frontiers, Superstars, Shadow Generations.
Lost World 3DS is so underrated
It's leagues beyond Lost World Wii U ironically, it's not the greatest 3D Sonic game, but I think it's good
I think it has the potential to be great, but the wisp distribution fucks things over massively.
@@BigLadStudiosHonestly, the Wisps in general aren't so bad, but they still could have been better. Drill is decent in 2D but awful in 3D, Lightning is horrible, Asteroid is kinda clunky but not too bad, Quake is actually pretty good, Laser is also really good and Burst is fun, but doesn't last long enough.
Finally, the review that I have been waiting for 😅.
Shame that Dimps will never come back to the sonic series again.
You should try working with Super Sonic (though probably though a pre completed save given your struggle with getting the gyro to work), it can practically skip much of the slog many of the stages, even if some don't benefit, plus the game gives you the ability to make and item that straight up gives you 50 Rings to instantly go super at the start of every stage
Okay I just watched a speedrun that's about an hour and a quarter long, and I gotta say, this game is sick. It doesn't even have any crazy movement tech, it's just that the flow and some of the skips you can do are really satisfying. A fair number of the "kill these enemies" and a few other slow and annoying things you experienced can either be skipped or done in a minute or so. The longest level in the run was just over 4 minutes (and it wasn't even the snowball pushing level). "Casual" lost world 3ds may be mid, but optimized lost world 3ds is really good and I hope you give time attack another shot
I think the infamy from the 3DS special stages comes from the fact that it made quite a few people ill while playing them. No other Sonic Special Stage can claim that.
I don't know some of those pseudo 3d ones can be pretty had on the eye.
I found them rather easy. To me does it just feel like people hating on motion controls again entirely because they are motion controls and just want to not having to move anything but there fingers while playing a video game.
I think it comes down to the constant spinning you have to do on these stages. Obviously this varies from person to person but If someone is very vulnerable to motion sickness then they are at high risk of getting sick. Best solution to this would have been to give the option to turn off the gyro controls.
@@scottcampbell3735 I guess people that quickly get motion sick would have an issue.
I can only go off my own experience and it gave me little issue (in general is the gyroscope in the 3ds pretty reliable)
0:09 I do! I really liked this game, played it aaaa loooot when it came out, and the online versus was really fun, too!
one thing i think is neat about this game is the material system. it gives an incentive to replay levels without being overly intrusive like HD lost world, and crafting shields and those RC things to bring into levels with you is pretty cool (it kind of giving tails a role in gameplay is nice too). cant say i really used it that much but i wouldn't mind something similar coming back one day.
Goated comment right here. Yes, the RC Vehicles are a masterpiece and absolutely should come back in a mainline Sonic game.
This is pretty much what I expected, glad to hear your time wasn't worse than the console version overall.
Seeing this level design, it reminds me a lot of Sonic Dream Teams levels.
Ah lost world 3DS a game that legit falls apart after the first 2 zones despite having a decent start.
I replayed it today and it's pretty fun!
for me this game was pretty fun and ironically enough this game reintroduced me to sonic
Lost World 3DS is the one I prefer. After getting use to the levels, most of them are really fun to go through, especially with Super Sonic. 4-1 is my favorite level
It's a fun game. However, I'm not a fan of the 2D zones because of the zoomed-in camera and "4-1" is one of my least favorites, because of the snowboard. "3-3" is the worst one, because of the Drill Wisp's controls. And I don't mind the 3D open free camera zones. I like them. 3 of them are my favorites.
2:24 smash 64 has competition
You probably won't see this, and I'm not "defending" the game but... the stages where you have to kill enemies, or push fruits.. if you come back with the wisps unlocked you can skip/do it quicker and that's why I like the wisps here even more than Colors, they don't feel like a win button, you really need to play after activating it (except for laser but it's only in 2d levels which are just platforming anyways xD)
i care very much about this game, pariah
Me too.
I have a soft spot for this game for being the first sonic game i played
Can we just skip to mania, I want the “Sonic Was Always Good” title to be accurate again
Mania is next though.
@@cellperfecto421it will not have the Boom Games?
It's accurate this time
@@Gyomax9744 Oh, I forgot about those lol
@@Gyomax9744 Nope, he ain't covering boom
16:27
No, they aren't. You just happen to play the game through an Emulator. Try doing those Special Stages with an actual 3DS and Gyro Controls, THEN we'll talk...
Ok, i haven't watched much of the vid yet, but if you didn't know, if you have the yellow homing thing and I think the red also and press X or Y in the air, sonic can stun the badnik and you can easily kill the chicken enemy or the electric green enemy. Usually works off of springs though, I don't remember as of right now
And three yellow homing things on one badnik increases the damage you do. I know you don't care, just wanted to point it out (sorry if I'm being annoying)
and you knew about it. Im not deleting these comments though, I'm so excited you finally covered this game!
Some of these puzzle stages might make people want the Werehog instead.
Those special stages were back-breaking and shoulder-stiffening. What you said about moving your controller is exactly what we had to do with the 3DS, but standing up and turning around and tilting everywhere. Definitely the worst special stages.
another great video good crtitiques much love bro keep up the good work
Finally someone who judges Dimps fairly for their contribution to the franchise, as if a single game (that wasn't even meant to be a mainline one) was enough to tarnish their reputation forever. I really don't understand why Sonic fans treat them that way, they sound like overly perfectionist parents yelling at their kid for bringing a 99 out of 100 at home rather than a 120 out of 100.
Ngl really feel this one is under rated. I kinda liked it
I adore this version of Sonic Lost World, played it all the time when I was younger. Eventually tried the Wii U version and didn't like it nearly as much
I really like Lost World 3DS. It feels like the Sonic 2 of 3D Sonic Games. Levels can be broken in half with properly timed jumps, even without the gadgets, and Super Sonic is broken in that Sonic 2 way rather than that Sonic Generations way. This game is underrated.
Out of all the 3ds games im really interested on youre thoughts on sonic boom fire and ice
Yes im serious
"I dont have that much to say" bro you still make 20min video
I read this comment right as he said it 😂😂😂
If puzzles like this were in a Knuckles game, it would make more sense.
I bought this the night it came out and played the shit out of it. This is my favorite version too, even though so many people say it's worse. I agree with pretty much everything you said, positive and negative.
This day is coming.
I know you wanted to make it quick but would have been nice if you at least would have mentioned the Tails workplace mechanic were Tails can make items to be used in the stages for Sonic. Especially getting a 50 rings item when having all Chaos Emeralds is fun as it allows you to fight the final boss as Super Sonic something only possible via bug abuse in the console version.
I know that Dimps games seemingly got worse going towards the end of there releases but it does often feel to me like that wasn't entirely there fault. Like Lost World feels like it was dragged down to have parity with the console version on many places, Sonic 4 episode 1 at least was rushed as it was just mend to be a small mobile project and was out of the blue upgraded to Sonic 4 status without a noteworthy budged increase while at the same time the team was working on Colors DS and Generations 3ds.
And Generations 3d is more than obviously rushed it self having to reuse old level design near 1 for 1(not even just the classic stages ether) I presume building that games engine which is all new eat quite hard into the games dev time were as Sonic Team was just building on top of Unleashed.
Like of cause will there output get worse when Sega makes them do 3 projects at ones while setting ridiculously short deadlines and in some cases demand altering the scope of some games after development has already started,
Did indeed spin around like a jackass
I actually like the special stages! Playing them on a real 3ds is very fun! Wish there was a full game just out of those stages, really!
I didn't think most of them were that bad. It's mostly Special Stages 4(if I remember) and 5 that suck.
It’s not a great game,but pretty good I think.Maybe it’s not a best sonic game,but I caught myself thinking that I wanted a game like this on my 3ds and really enjoyed it
Just gonna drop a quick comment before i let the video play when this game came out it had a pretty sick online race mode which was very fun to race against others other than that thats it
I also agreed 3ds is better but then again I don't really like either I mean it is lost world
LETS GOOOOOO I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE
i'm pretty sure you didn't mention how sonic doesn't uncurl when double jumping in this, compared to the wiiu and pc versions LOL
I actually completed Lost World on 3DS, unlike the Wii U version which I didn't bother to get far in cause it was dull. The combat and puzzle levels certainly drag this game down because the speed/platforming in this game was really fun! Miles better that console Lost World. It felt cool. A game with good highs but also really bad lows.
The Special Stages were fun.
And Super Sonic is fun to use in this game and his model doesn't screw up like the Wii U version.
i wonder if mania is next.
Surprised how you didnt mention how bad the bounce attack is in this game, WAAYY too slow. I agree with everything you said here, which is probably the 1st time that happned (usually i agree with 80% of your points) and i would like to mention that the reason why people hate the special stages in this game is that it causes arm pain on the 3ds. Good video : )
When there's no stupid fruit to push around it really looks to me like a dimps boost sonic game in 3D. You can definitely tell they had people who actually worked on sonic level design utilizing part of that experience for the better levels in the game, instead of just having a constant stream of random nothingness like the Wii U version. Even what little good was left of Dimps was squandered by the all time low lack of confidence for sonic gameplay in the franchise, having instead to shove into their game a bunch of non-sonic crap the higher-ups think they can "appeal to the masses" with.
Sonic Lost World on the 3DS was my first console game. It was probably my first introduction to Sonic as a character and not on mobile. (Sonic 4 is more fun than Dash. Change my mind.) I may have had my frustrations first but eventually came to love this game so much that I even tried to emulate it. (Meaning no chaos emeralds. I still haven't tried moving it around with an emulated Wiimote which is basically the phone.)
I can't. Sonic 4 is indeed more fun than Sonic Dash. Great that you enjoyed the game, it is a fun game. I actually was able to emulate it on my phone on Citra and the Gyro worked perfectly fine. Even got all the Emeralds.
With this being the first portable 3d sonic i played the crap out of it. Even got all S ranks even in hard mode. I got issues with it fs but it's awesome 😊
would love to see you cover the kingdom hearts games. They seem like your cup of tea.
Also I wish this game had modding support like the hd version and the reason is I wouldn't mind seeing an emerald coast mod for this game or heck port every sa2/SA1 stage because I think it would fit well
this is one of the best looking 3ds games atleast
I'm gonna be honest, the special stages took me a while to figure out, but once I did, it was pretty fun for me, although I guess the reward did have an influence on that, haha
Honestly tho you you are right for the most part I gotta say tho you should of tried it with super sonic also I kinda disagree with the puzzle stages being bad because there are ways to make them faster even with base sonic for example in frozen factory act 3 there's literally a way to reach the top where the switches are without even doing the intended section and also in the dessert ruins act 3 it is possible to skip that entire section
Also try out the extra stages too they are fun like tropical coast extra there are literally level skips and also try out frozen factory act extra where its possible to do a wispless run btw I play this game alot
Wait, I plqyed this recently, i dton remember extra levels
@@tivvy2vs21 You can get an extra level per world by getting all the red rings in a world
@@MarioPokemon123456 huh
This game is weird. Its highs are higher than the HD version, but its lows are so much lower.
And I can confirm the special stages are awful on a real 3DS. The seventh one physically hurt me when I first played it years ago.
idk the special stages on 3ds just never worked for me idk if my gyro was broken but it was soooo stiff.
Quite literally clicked on this video because I enjoy LW3DS😅😅
I think it does a better job of staying consistent versus the Wii U version
The 3DS Gyroscope literally barred me from playing the Special Stages and no other Special Stage in Sonic has ever done that
Well, that's Lost World out of the way. I doubt he will make Sonic Boom Rise of Lyric video or other Sonic Boom games so next up is Sonic Mania after Mania we are left with Forces, Frontiers, and Superstars.
9:07 Pariah, these are actually not "apples," but it is a common mistake for fans of the series. They are called "Coins."
As someone who likes the hd sonic lost world I did like the way this game plays but I dropped the game after the desert ruins level with the boulders and switches, for me I can connect my phone as a second monitor and use a phone controller connector to emulate what it feels like to play it on a 3ds
No Fuzzy Pacman? 0/10
me when no fuzzy pacman: 😾😾😾
No paccy fuzman?
@@unofficial2480 No Manny Pacfuzz?
This version feels less monotonous to look at than the main version. I like that there's actual 3D parts with turnable cameras. It makes me sad that modern 3D Sonic games don't have as smooth movement though.
This game probably does 3D Super Sonic the best
Definitely. The skips he can do are impressive, to say the least.
I was just about to eat. Great timing
Wha u eating
@@burgergud2804 ravioli
@@Fewix_ Lost World is so desperately trying to be a Mario game it started affecting things outside the game
The biggest problems with the Special Stages are that the game don't offer you a option to play with the conventional controls and the fact that DIMPS designed the special stages to be REALLY DEMANDING (specially in the last few stages)
The last special stages can seriously give you motion sickness, i remember one time that i even stopped playing cuz the Really fast 180s and 90s turns where making me sick! DIMPS should have made it less demanding or have conventional controls instead.
It's closer to a Sonic game than the Wii U version, which isn't saying much
Sonic Lost World 3DS was the version I played first. I thought it was fine at first, but then when I got to the second Zone, I could see the problems right away. But it's like you said though; it's both better and worse than Wii U/PC Lost World. I do also find this one a tad better, but just a tad. Also if you play this on an actual 3DS, you may change your mind about the special stages. Yes, the stages themselves aren't really the problem. It's the controls.
Is it bad to say I think this version is better than its Wii U counterpart?
I mean, unlike that one, this version gets rid of some of the things that made the Wii U version unbearable(ahem animal grinding ahem), the sense of speed is better, the bosses are better, the RCs have a cool use, it has a hard mode and you have longer levels.
I even think the Wii U version would even suck as a Mario game!
I used to hope Lost World would get a sequel more like the 3DS version
I really think the 3DS version have a level design way better than the Wii U/PC version.
Man, playing this game for myself. Maybe it's a good thing that Dimps isn't making Sonic games anymore. Don't get me wrong, we had a mostly good run with the Advance and Rush games. But when you're making Sonic games like Sonic 4 and especially this game. Maybe it's time to hang up the jersey.
I know the fanbase likes to come in defense for pretty much any sonic game regardless of actual quality or glaring flaws. But this game isn't it man. Maybe I'm old fashioned but I don't think a 20 minute level where you push snowballs around is very Sonic.
Frozen Factory Zone 3 doesn't last 20 minutes. No zone in this game does, actually. The max amount of time it takes is 6 minutes, but it can also very much be completed under 5 minutes. If it's lasting 20 minutes, you are making it last 20 minutes.
@rafaelpereiragomes1735 Did you even read the comment???
@@Hyp3rSonicYes, that's why I corrected them on the zone length. If I hadn't, my comment wouldn't have been there.
Wait, is it because he said about fans defending everything? To be honest, I wasn't saying the zone was good. I wasn't defending anything, for that matter. If anything, I was trying to help him criticize the game properly. Let me show an example: I took 30 minutes to beat Mad Space in Sonic Adventure 2, but I know the zone doesn't actually last 30 minutes. If I say to myself that the zone doesn't last 30 minutes, I'm not "coping" that the zone is somehow good,(I don't think it is. I didn't have fun with it and some Sonic fans agree with me on that.) I'm just reasurring myself that it was me who has slowed down on the Master Emerald shard collecting and my gameplay was way far from optimal.
So, please tell me with respect, what did I miss?
The speed stages (Act 1's) and even 2D levels (normally Act 2's) and even the Bosses are better than the Wii U version.
The puzzle and combat levels (normally Act 3's) are some of the worst stages in the franchise.
Your statement at the beginning where you said this game is both better and worse is bang on and something I've said myself.
I gotta say this game probably has my favorite playable in standard gameplay super sonic with how much he breaks this game wide open especially in the 2d stages. If only the special stages werent ass.
I agree with everything u had to say in the video the level design is pretty decent i'd say (when its good because when its bad its bad.) However I found the controls in this game particularly when jumping to be horrifingly unplayable though.
Edit: i actually booted up the game and played some more levels and the control actuallu isnt as bad as i remember pretty fun actually
The gyroscope special stages made me nauseous, so definitely think it was way worse than Heroes. But maybe it wouldn't be so bad on an emulator.
14:45 Pariah, you FAIL to see the importance of the color PURPLE on game design... just being PURPLE makes the hard mode worth it! I can't believe people FAIL to see this!!!! PURPLE!!!!
Anyway, Lost World in general is weird... but it is interesting, in a way; a very strange and bizarre game that is like... why would anyone even think of doing a game like this?
In some weird way, I am glad it exists, but as much as I do actually like this game (yes, I am insane), yeah this game shouldn't have been made
I care
5:20 did that homing attack just retain your momentum?
Nah I think he just jumped on bro
I hope you'll change your mind and we'll get sonic boom angry review eventually... At least it would be entertaining.
The special stages arnt that bad to me as I did it like 4 times as I restarted my save on like 3 different DS-s, first experience was weird as I was on my knees as I didn’t want to stand(I did it for super sonic as I really wanted to play around with it in levels)
When i first played this i didn't enjoy it but after replaying the level i didn't like the 2d levels but really enjoyed the 3d level except the casino one ( i don't like the casino levels in sonic) and i really like the spacial stages probably because i had a 3ds i say my favorite stage is frozen factory act 3 i got under 3 minutes no wisps
ah the version I had when I was little unfortunately
What is that camera in 2d levels?
Is there a contractual agreement that Sonic needs to take up a certain amount of the screen?
Since you're skipping Sonic Boom for the Sonic was always good series, please do a video on Sonic Runners. It was a 2015 mobile game developed by Sonic Team and Cyberconnect, and it was the best game that Sonic had until the release of Mania in 2017.
OF COURSE YOURE NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SPECIAL STAGES CUS YOUR EMULATING THE GAME AND DONT HAVE TO GET UP AND MOVE YOUR WHOLE BODY
RIP dimps 😢
Is fine version for the 3DS
I will never stop saying this game has the best 3D Sonic controls ever. If only the level design wasn't what it was...
We could get some killer romhacks if people care enough
I didn't even know there was a Lost World 3DS until today.
0:08 except Garrulous64
As someone who does like Wii U Lost World, Lost World 3DS to me is actively one of the worst Sonic games. I agree, some of the control and levels are better than the Wii U version… but I would say most of it is far worse. I vehemently DESPISE all of those puzzle levels and the 2D stages. Lost World 3DS’s zoomed in camera for 2D stages is actually worse here for me than other Sonic games that have this problem because you can just press a button and be at max speed. You somehow have even less visibility than the Rush games, and that baffles me.
And on top of all this, there is just much less depth to the movement in the 3DS version in comparison to the Wii U version. It works better at a basic level, but it’s so dumbed down for me who has mastered the Wii U version that I just can’t have as much fun even in stages that are better designed.
I feel like if a home console Sonic game had level design like the 3D speed parts of this game people would be gassing it up big time. That’s part of why I somewhat like this game, like a solid 6/10, whereas Wii U is just ass
This game made me so disappointed. As a Lost World fan, I enjoy the controls and I felt some levels had better direction. As a D6 apologist the boss fights are way better. As a Sonic Colors DS wisp fan and Wii hater, I wasn't surprised the wisps were utilized well too being that it's the same devs.
...but then you get further in, and this shit starts to become my bottom 5 least favorite sonic games of all time. Level design has such high lows and with a couple of high highs. The 2D section imo are even worse due to forced screen crunch. Those special stages are god awful on a native 3DS, and I actually like motion controls.
This dimps last sonic game sometimes i wonder why can't they make 3d sonic games at least?
I was hoping you'd play the game on original hardware so you can experience the special stages as god intended
I couldn't make a video if I did lol.
*Satan intended