Has Rwanda recovered from the horrors of the genocide in 1994?

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  • Опубликовано: 4 апр 2024
  • In 1994, Hutu militants in Rwanda massacred more than 800 thousand Tutsis and moderate Hutus. The victims are still being uncovered today. Its sheer brutality and speed shocked the world. To some, it seemed miraculous Rwanda found any stability in the wake of the genocide. A Tutsi rebel group led by Paul Kagame was able to transition the country to one of Africa's most stable economies. But other Rwandans will tell you that something quite sinister lies beneath the surface, with an iron-fisted president who they accuse of committing human rights abuses.
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    Olivier Nduhungirehe
    Ambassador of Rwanda to the Netherlands
    Claude Gatebuke
    Rwanda Genocide Survivor
    Phil Clark
    Professor of International Politics at SOAS University
    Christine Coleman
    Author of ‘SOS: Rwanda’s 30-Year Apocalypse’
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Комментарии • 64

  • @Yawa300
    @Yawa300 Месяц назад +20

    Having Claude speaking on behalf of Survivors is insane honestly, you people from TRT should be ashamed of your selves , y’all are a bunch of hypocrites . Having those 2 Claude and christine saying that the Genocide was caused by the plane is really a total mockery to us. The plane made lists of those who were to be killed? The plane trained inzirabwoba ? Y’all should just leave us alone instead of airing such a bogus interview . Nubundi Abera mwanga abimereye neza

    • @user-hadey15
      @user-hadey15 Месяц назад +2

      Although as a Nigerian I don't like the idea of a white man speaking on behalf of a black nation....but that been said, "Paul Kagame did not shoot down the president's plane"...I don't know where you guys are getting your informations from??
      I mean there are deep rooted facts that the hutu's actually orchestrated the whole plan by sacrificing their own brother in that plane crash for the purpose of kick starting the 1994 bloody genocide massacre.
      Foreign hutu's must learn how to love other tribes in order to let peace reign rather than spreading unnecessary false agenda that could build up another war on a national TV.

    • @abocas
      @abocas 10 дней назад

      Just in general ..... why is it that we Africans can't fathom that there are others than Africans who actually are well informed and educated in African matters??

  • @KURECYAN689
    @KURECYAN689 Месяц назад +8

    These 2 guys claude and christine are Hutu narative propagandist 💯

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      And, you are Tutsis genocidaire narrative propagandist!!

  • @benjaminsetaha1400
    @benjaminsetaha1400 Месяц назад +9

    Bringing and inclusion of Gatebuke and Christine is a disgrace to the channel.I think @thenewsmaker can do better.

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      The real genocidaire Tutsis don't want the truth but you can't stop it and won't stop it!!

    • @benjaminsetaha1400
      @benjaminsetaha1400 25 дней назад

      @@arnolddayday4565 Rwandans stand united, finding cohesion under the leadership of our president. Opposition to him is tantamount to opposing the very unity we cherish. Embracing divisive politics is archaic and futile. It's time to embrace unity and progress

  • @masezeranoelie6282
    @masezeranoelie6282 Месяц назад +3

    I am in Rwanda we are safe and developing and we really appreciate our government. Can haters of Rwanda leave us alone? I inform you to visit Rwanda rather than to use such negative foreigners

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      You are one of Kagame's slaves stop talking as if you are talking for all of the people!

    • @abocas
      @abocas 10 дней назад

      Ehh, foreigners? A Rwandan ambassador and a Rwandan survivor?? Foreigners?

  • @grandmachannel8828
    @grandmachannel8828 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you Claude and Christine for speaking out what you experienced,what you knew and saw🤗🤗❤️❤️❤️

  • @Justin-vw1zj
    @Justin-vw1zj Месяц назад +4

    Referring to the US state department reports on Rwanda, the UN reports, the sheer number of survivors of the Rwandan genocide killed and those imprisoned for simply speaking their mind, the professor has to acknowledge that he is either a paid agent of Paul Kagame or he is ignorant and privilege entitled.

    • @michaelpungwe7593
      @michaelpungwe7593 Месяц назад +1

      Mind boggling ! Busy lecturing people who (diaspora or people back home) in fact are experiencing this brutality from Kagame regime, this is mad business.

  • @ngabokevin1925
    @ngabokevin1925 Месяц назад +2

    It's named " Genocide against the Tutsis "

  • @soleil80
    @soleil80 Месяц назад +1

    Abdul Ruzibiza himself is a Tutsi too...and he spoke out loud the atrocities that are being committed before during and after génocide by rwandan gvt he was apart of . If Rwandan gvt can allow experts to investigate about the new bodies that are being dig out currently, some of these bodies are most likely newer than 1994...that tells yiu something.

  • @thomaskinyanjui6458
    @thomaskinyanjui6458 Месяц назад +1

    With the mentality of Claude and Christine I think proper and complete healing can not be achieved, soo unfortunate 😕

    • @25eyal17
      @25eyal17 Месяц назад

      They hate Rwandans and only wants death to return back to Rwanda

  • @kroberts3333
    @kroberts3333 Месяц назад +2

    Be ashamed by ur words both of you 😢😢😢

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      Why bc they aren't Kagame's slaves like you are?

  • @patrickokage9254
    @patrickokage9254 Месяц назад

    If the current president is and was part of the scam and syndicate that characterized the 1994 genocide, Rwanda is still in the list of fragile countries that can easily plunge into repeated political turmoil, the current president is not laying any modalities for smooth transition after him, unity and peace should not be solely about him and progeny, it's myopic and tragic even if you continue celebrating genocide

  • @TjokotjaPatla
    @TjokotjaPatla Месяц назад

    It's sad what the Western world has done to the children of the victims. These two 'American' kids have got a distorted understanding of their own history. They should be so ashamed. I would refuse any further invites if I was them.

  • @Africanboss938
    @Africanboss938 Месяц назад +1

    Is this Claude guy serious?

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      Thats the truth you Kagame's slaves don't wanna hear but can't stop it!

  • @mariekampororo3844
    @mariekampororo3844 Месяц назад +5

    Thank you Claude &Christine
    Keep spreading the TRUTH of our HISTORY

    • @25eyal17
      @25eyal17 Месяц назад

      Stupid hutu propaganda

  • @mongoakua9969
    @mongoakua9969 Месяц назад

    The narrative from the two rwandese is completely different to this english man who are defending the gvmnt of rwanda. Kagamé rules the Rwandans with an iron fist. The Americans know this, as do the British, and they use a president who does the job of destabilizing the region for them. And at the same time, it worked in the Congo, where Kagame had the green light and was informed of the entire political, economic, social and military situation, etc. He was running two countries at once, something incredible in the 21st century, but it's true: he was enjoying the incredible wealth of the Congo and the Rwandan economy with it. To cut a long story short, the massacre of Tutsis in Rwanda is real, but many people are unaware of the massacre of Hutus in the Congo by the Rwandan army in collaboration with that of the DRC, which was led by a Rwandan chief of staff. The Hutus were hunted down like beasts fleeing the Tutsi vengeance of the Congolese army. I say this because I experienced it at home in the Congo. We need peace not war

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      You are not wrong but you need to learn history properly or need to learn to tell it properly! Kagame is a Tutsis refugee who grew up in Uganda and came back in 1990 to restore the Tutsis' dominate which they lost in the 1959-60s. He was already committing crimes before but also during the genocide, which he caused. During the genocide there were more Hutus killed, mostly by the RPF, than Tutsis just do the math you will see that it could never be that many Tutsis being killed bc there were not that many in Rwanda to beginn with and also bc there were still many left. Kagame invasion of DRC wasn't just to kill Hutus but was to steal DRC wealth. And, pls stop saying the Congolese army bc it was the Banyarwanda along side the Tutsis from Rwanda, Uganda and Burundi who help Mzee to take power and those people presented themselves as Congolese although they were not!

  • @kroberts3333
    @kroberts3333 Месяц назад +1

    How much money a those guys paid for them to be propagandist against Rwanda government 😢😢

    • @piuskyomukamathebaker5260
      @piuskyomukamathebaker5260 Месяц назад

      They may not have been paid money but telling lies about Rwanda is their only ticket for staying in the diaspora

    • @arnolddayday4565
      @arnolddayday4565 25 дней назад

      You are the one who got paid if not then you must be an uneducated!

    • @douglasnamanya6517
      @douglasnamanya6517 2 дня назад

      That's very very true ,

  • @3R3g
    @3R3g Месяц назад

    I totally understand you want to hear a different distorted story from those propagandists just for the news but you should not agree with them without doin your own research and know the real truth behind genocide in Rwanda.

  • @prettylittleliarsforever5902
    @prettylittleliarsforever5902 Месяц назад +1

    Is this a joke?

  • @grandmachannel8828
    @grandmachannel8828 Месяц назад

    Maping report proof that Kagame regime called themselves “the killing machines “.Do you that The Kagame regime killed millions hutus refugees in DRC?

  • @user-zi8qe6tf9f
    @user-zi8qe6tf9f Месяц назад +1

    نحنا اخواتكم من اليمن والله ماتكلمت الا من جوع ومن ضيق الحال انا وامي واخوتي نستقبل عيد الفطر المبارك بالعبرٱت والدموع نحن في حاله لايعلم بها الا الله حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل في من اوصلنا الى هاذا الحال 💔💔وًّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ مَا كتَبَتَ هَذا الَمَنَاشَدَهَ غَيَرَ مَنَ الَضَيَقَ وّالَفَقَر يَاعَالَمَ حَسَوّا فَيَنَا ارَجَوّكمَ وّالَلَهَ الَعَظَيَمَ رَبَ الَعَرَشَ الَعَظَيَمَ انَه الَاكلَ مَا فَيَ عَنَدَيَ بَالَبَيَتَ وًّالَلَهَ يَا اخَوّانَيَ انَهَ اخَوًّنَيَ بَقَعَدَوًّ بَالَيَوًّمَيَنَ مَافَى اكلَ وًّالَلَهَ وًّضَعَنَا كثَيَرَ صَعَبَ نَحَنَ 4 نَفَرَ دَاخَلَ الَبَيَتَ وًّابَيَ مَتَوًّفَيَ وًّلَا يَوًّجَدَ مَنَ يَعَوًّلَ عَلَيَنَا وًّسَاكنَيَنَ فَيَ بَيَتَ اجَارَ لَانَسَتَطَيَعَ دَفَعَ الَاجَارَ الَلَيَ بَاقَيَ عَلَيَنَا '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ٩٦٧٧١٧٣٥٤٥٨٢+ (،) ''''''''''''''''''''😟''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اخي اول كلامي انا اقسم بالله على كتاب الله اني لااكذب عليك ولا انصب ولا احتال اني بنت يمنيه نازحين من تعز انا واسرتي بيننا ایت الشهرب 20 الف يمني والان علينا 60 الف حق 3 شهور وصاحب البيت من الناس الي ماترحم والله يا اخي انه يجي كل يوم يبهدلنا ويتكلم علينا ويريد من البيت للشارع لانناماقدرنا ندفعله الأجار شافونا الجيران نبكي ورجعو تكلمو الجيران ومهلنالاخره الأسبوع معادفعنا له حلف يمين بالله هذا بيخرجنا إلى الشارع رحمه واحنا. بلادنا بسبب هذا الحرب ولانجد قوت يومنا وعايشين اناوامي واخوتي سفار والدنا متوفي الله يرحمه ومامعنا أحد في هذا الدنيا جاانبنا في هذه الظروف القاسيه اخوتي الصغار خرجو للشارع وشافو الجيران ياكلو واوقفو عند بابهم لجل يعطوهم ولو كسره خبز والله الذي له ملك السموات والارض انهم غلفو الباب وطردوهم ورجعو یبکو ایموتو من الجوع ما احد رحمهم وعطلة ردها لقمت عیش والان لوما احدنا ساعدنا في إيكيلو دقيق اقسم بالله انموت من الجوع فيا اخي انا دخيله على الله ثم عليك واريد منك المساعده لوجه الله انشدك بالله تحب الخير واتساعدني تراسلي واتساب على هذا الرقم 00967717354582 وتطلب اسم بطاقتي وترسلي ولاتتاخر وايعوضك الله بكل خير اخواني سغار شوف كيف حالتهم وساعدنا وأنقذنا قبل أن يطردونا في الشارع تتبهدل أو نموت من الجوع وانا واسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعد لاتتاخر علينا وجزاك الله خيررا`ااااااات يااارب اا:؛،؛؛؛؛،.،.،:^:؛^:🎉♥♥😭°~°~^~°~√~√~√^~°~°°√π√^^√ππ`√√،♠︎،،،،،:';";":":":":":":😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

  • @Alyne2255
    @Alyne2255 Месяц назад

    They need to go to Rwanda and they will change their mind.

  • @26claudine
    @26claudine Месяц назад

    Kagames army didn't want the genocide to be stopped they r evidence on that

    • @25eyal17
      @25eyal17 Месяц назад

      And the ones who say that are the one who are the perpetrators of the genocide. Get a brain dude you lack common sense

    • @25eyal17
      @25eyal17 Месяц назад

      And the people who say that are the genocide perpetrators, you lack common sense get yourself a brain

  • @8616was
    @8616was Месяц назад

    claude and christine no wonder why y'all in exile .speak facts and not opinions and stop misleading people especially in this period

  • @jeankhaongha5378
    @jeankhaongha5378 Месяц назад

    This professor comes with kagame primitif and tribal narrative …there is no hutu ideology…as that there is no akazu Meath as inkotanyi used to fool people…here we have people whose past throughout those killings that you are ignoring…we Rwanda we know well who was killing innocent civilians…and this teacher should keep cheering

  • @rutagengwagard4258
    @rutagengwagard4258 Месяц назад

    you are out of a country for 30yrs and you still want to discuss it's progress hhh

  • @vannygusenga2721
    @vannygusenga2721 Месяц назад

    Entitlement at its finest!!! and you are a professor!!!! What a shame!!!
    Everyday our people are killed others are emprisoned by RPF and you are here with the victims talking nonsense and you think you know better!!!!!!you should re-do your research (if you ever did)

  • @jeromemusemakweli3965
    @jeromemusemakweli3965 Месяц назад +1

    It is sad to see how an academic transform himself into a propagandist of a known dictatorial regime. Kagame has killed more people any africa than any other african leader in the past. To learn about his kind of regime just read every Human Right Watch report on Rwanda for the past 15 years or every State Department Human Right on Rwanda for the past 10 years. Facts are there, it is a matter of time before what is doing ends.

  • @jeankhaongha5378
    @jeankhaongha5378 Месяц назад

    When someone lies or try to get come out a baseless and memorized narrative, does what this ambassador does: not fluent enough in conversations…and looks up (eyes exorbitant…trying to grab some incoherent phrases..so on…😂

    • @chris_tiya922
      @chris_tiya922 Месяц назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂really??? You sshould be keeping.... Cloude 😂😂😂 u are so naive