Briggs & Stratton V-TWIN : Governor, Throttle and Choke Linkages
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Showing all of the throttle / governor and choke linkages on very common Briggs and Stratton V-Twin Engines, very similar on just about Briggs V Twin. Thanks for Watching!!!
Exactly what i was looking for. Took my v twin carb out for cleaning and couldn't remember how the springs went back together. Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video to help us all out.
I hear ya! your welcome, Thanks for Watching!!!
This helped me get my throttle linkage connected again. Soon as I get a new fuel line I get to check it out.
I replaced the heads on my mower, and I didn't know where the smaller spring connected. Your video was the answer.
Great job.
Glad to help out, Thanks for Watching!!!
My V Twin is built where the throttle cable is hooked to a stamped sheet metal wheel. When the throttle is pushed past full on, it goes to choke. The circular plate pushes the choke lever tab down and causes its other end to travel upward, putting the carburetor in choke condition. Mine had a piece of mud get onto where the pivot was, limiting the choke lever movement. I knocked off the bit of mud.
I have a craftsman zts 7500 that has a similar motor. B&S v twin 22hp. The throttle and choke cables froze up from being left in the elements. When I finally got a replacement cable assembly in, the old cables were already removed from their respective attachment points. Now I'm having the HARDEST time getting the new ones back into place.
Best video for linkage set up on RUclips. Thank you!
Very nice look at the throttle/governor linkages. Mine is an updated model but the same principles apply.
Dude you are the man. Thanks for this
I have that motor on my snapper. I was mowing with it the other week and the rpms jumped up. Almost like it's trying to run away but I can shut it off.
I bought aftermarket carb for my 2011 YT4500 craftsman with intek 26hp v twin. Linkage was my big issue, also the aftermarket carb had different looking auto choke connector. So I took off the original and put it on the aftermarket carb. In process I had to bend linkage etc, then motor didn't respond to speed, just full blast, I bought some aftermarket linkage off Amazon and custom cut and bent them. I have it so it starts right up and idles good, throttle speed works now, haven't mowed yet though. Only issue I notice it the motor you can see the throttle linkage moving off and on like it's hunting for correct idle. I ordered oem linkages, but taking forever for briggs to send. I don't want to start messing with changing the governer tension, since I messed up trying to modify the linkage to the non factory carb.Thinking maybe adding a spring could help the throttle hunting, dunno. Both auto choke and throttle linkages need to be right on, they work in unison. I spent hours past week just getting mower to start, then would Rev high to point I turned it off, don't mess with modifying linkage. I need use of mower bad, for my 1.5 acres and it's been down for 2 weeks. Wish I just left the old surging carb on now.
When I put the oem linkages in before I changed out the butterfly, it started then linkage popped out of retainer, has been a nightmare since.
Is there a part number for the throttle linkage retainer on the bottom bracket ? Mine keeps popping out of the hole,.
Thanks
Same question. I’ve tried the part I find in diagrams but it’s not right.
Have a 22 hp briggs and stratton twin ohv what is the right carburetor for that engine thank you
Can you show the one with automatic choke linkage connection.?
Question I’ve got my father in laws Briggs v twin with an auto choke I’m trying to figure out. He has a broken thin wire spring wrapped around the throttle linkage. Not attached to anything on either side. He is having a problem where it surges and stops when it gets hot. Any idea where that spring came from?
Was looking for where the carb linkage connection points are. Had a hard time finding them but got a good look at the butterfly end at 1 minute 39 seconds into your video and thereafter for the other end. May I suggest, either zoom in and/or zoom out as you go for a closeup of 'whatever'. It is a great explanation video, but with each instruction point already being zoomed in it is hard to orient myself (79 yr old eyes) to we are, for sure, on the carburetor. After all that being said, IT WAS A GREAT HELP ! ! ! I got the carb linkage on with the correct ends in their proper holes, thanks to you. 4 stars+
Glad to help out and appreciate the tip, I will try to do that! Thanks for watching!!
Great diagram and help to hookup carburator
When I move trottle cable it does not effect the motor. It wont start unless I manually reach down and push on choke. When do this it starts and runs if I let go of choke it stalls. The trottle cable does nothing it moves the cable and turns the lineage but it does not move or governor or choke. I have adjusted both spings, idle and governor spring. When I secure choke in place with small wire it runs great. Can you help?
Thank you. I bent the throttle link rod just a tiny bit when removing the carb and the engine wouldn't return back to idle. Not easy to see this mistake.
What activates the throttle linkage connected to the governor?
Another spot on detailed vid on an obscure subject. I've got several BS engines going with your help, you are my go-to.
Appreciate that, always glad to help out! Thanks for Watching!!!
Thank you. This is exactlly the information that I needed.
Absolutely awesome video!
Exactly what I was looking for!
I have the exact same engine. My throttle control stays the same in idle or wide open. What do I adjust?
Im having an issue with this, as soon as you move the throttle from idle, it goes wide open, what is the deal with that? Everything is where it belongs.
So where do the cables go .. I got 2 cables with levers looking for a home
Showing linkages is always bound to be helpful to someone out there.
I hope so, I know it has for me in the past, after working on something new that i wasn't familiar with, and forgetting where everything went! Thanks for Watching!!!
Linkages is how I found your channel, then a few times besides just watching I ended up back here for a refresher on the same linkages. lol
I hear ya!!! lol
John Strange. Yea , me. Total mystery to me . It would be cool if I could learn how to adjust a small engine instead of striking it with a sledge hammer and resign, ,myself to buying a new one
A new sledge hammer? No. A new small engine
Have a John Deere 175 Briggs Twin that I can't seem to hook up the large spring correctly. I can't quite see the far end of this spring in your video. I learned from another video thatBriggs has four variations on the spring set-up main bar piece. Mine has the number 2 on it. Appreciate any help.
any idea where i can purchase a throttle cable at. i just need the hook part that connects it all. it broke on one of the ends and i cant find a replacment part. plz help
Look up model number of tractor or equipment. For instance if you have a craftsman you can look at sears parts direct to get part number. Then Google that part number.
Briggs V-Twin Intek Engine has a Different Carburetor. Mine has a Gov Link on each side, Right side goes to the Pressure fan by the flywheel.. How can I replce It? All the new ones only have the gov and throttle Linkage. HELP
I am having a struggle getting the engine to be governed after changing the fuel pump on a 35 hp vanguard twin.when i adjust the mechanical governor it only turns about 1/8 of a turn,could this indicate internal problems?
My V twin I replaced the governor inside the engine and now the lower half of the throttle control doesn't seem to slow the engine. It idles high all the time and goes faster when the throttle is moved to the high speed side. may need to bend that tab you talked about. should there be tension on those springs all the time. It also surges when it is warmed up and no load on it.
B&S model 44S977 Type Code 0022-G1 date code 170221vg if that helps.
Hey I have the 25 horsepower Briggs, John deere 100 series, . My engine is running wide open, I saw video on how to adjust it and it is adjusted correctly, did not have to readjust it, are you able to tell my what else I can do? Thanks for your help, my name is Richard
what would cause a B&S 407777-3195-G5 to rev out of control? It was running just fine using the mower to mow that day then to haul some light loads in the trailer to the trash/burn pile, then fired the mower back up and started to rev uncontrollable, throttle level does not help, however with a push the throttle lever on the carb. up manually it will adjust as idle speed.
These engines are bad about the internal governor piece breaking or sticking. Try to adjust the governor first just in case it came loose, then bad as i hate to say it, if its the internal piece it will have to be tore down to fix. Thanks for Watching!!!
FANTASTIC INFO
Thanks for Watching!!!
Great video!!! My problem is I bought a new Briggs Vanguard 26HP Commercial sb to replace an original 16 yo Scag Tiger Cub engine but the throttle will only open partially (about 1/3 throttle) then its up against spring tension and forces the throttle back down. It won't even open up enough to engage the pto without killing the engine. Have had it off to try to find the reason to no avail. Any help would be appreciated as the seller won't refund and only ("sell") and have No technical abilities! Or want to help. Thanks in advance for your input and great vids.
I have a Vanguard 570cc twin that is in my natural gas home generator. It won't start in cold weather. I had a different problem with it a while ago and now this problem ever since. Not sure if the governor linkage is setup correctly. Is there a linkage diagram or some help that you could suggest?
Which position does the choke cable
I cleaned the carburetor now it runs good until I engage the PTO and kill the engine unless I push the throttle to choke. Any ideas ?
Check the plastic manifolds on the front and back of the carb for warpage. Mine would run great until I engaged the blades then it would sputter out. As it turns out there was about a half mm gap between the intake and carb creating a vacuum leak. They run about $150 new, so I put some permatex on instead to make up the difference and problem solved.
i really appreciate your videos
my problem... vtwin 23 briggs after stiing a day it wont start new plugs frsh gas new carb sometimes the plugs are flooded sometimes not
just a sniff of starting fluid starts right up idles down revs up back to idle no smoke good starting rest of day and new fuel pump
its embaressing
thoughts??
On my v-twin everything is hooked up correctly and all there. No reverse tension on governor so throttle stays wide open all the time no matter where control is set by the operator. Seems like problem may be inside unit. Very frustrating. Randy
Did you solve this Randy? I've got the same issue... 😢
I have a 22HP MODEL 44000...where does the spring thats around the governor linkage hook to. The linkage goes through the rod. There is a hole for the spring on the governor end but I don't see where to hook it on the throttle.
For the choke bracket setup.
Do you move the throttle cable up to it?
Instead of down on the governor arm?
Hope this makes sense.
Thanks
yes i think that is correct, it kind of works backwards. Thanks for Watching!!!
Hey, great video. I purchased a new 25hp B&S Professional engine(vtwin) to replace my old 26hp B&S ELS engine. The older engine has a choke, where as this new engine has no mount for the choke cable. It looks as if its an automatic choke, perhaps? Do I just leave the choke cable off? Also, how do decide how far to adjust my Throttle cable, when tightening it to the carb? Any help would be MUCH appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Thanks! Yes in that case i would just not leave the choke unhooked, the way i adjust the throttle is, set the control to fast (full throttle, plus full choke in this case) may help to have someone hold it for you, then pull the linkage where the cable goes so the engine is set to full throttle (and choke on the auto choke engines) then tighten it down. Hope this makes sense, i do have a video explaining how to set it, on a different engine but should point you in the right direction... ruclips.net/video/1WWpeyDbHjA/видео.html Thanks for Watching!!!
I have a Briggs 18.5 nearly identical to this that I just cant stop from running wide open unless I put a spring on the governor arm to hold it up... and then giving it throttle is ungoverned... driving me crazy trying to figure out what is wrong. with it.
I have vangard mud motor 35 hp I could not get it up to high rpm when I open the throated half way same speed as full throttle any sudjustion
You still available to help with a 18 hp vanguard
Took mine apart a couple months ago and forgot how linkage went. Thanks exactly what I needed
Easy to do! Your welcome, Thanks for Watching!!!
Great video when you were talking about the governor did you had a problem with peers to be nothing wrong with the governor I got one doing the same thing the governor just doesn't work I've just as it correctly and the motor just runs away did you ever figure out what was wrong with the governor our one yesterday and should be in tomorrow I'm going to try it but it's going to drive me crazy cuz that pierced that there's nothing wrong with the governor the white sling out real smoothly is not all beat up get a chance, I appreciate
On a twin carb 20hp linkages Briggs twin cyl it's a the back springs or linkages of the carbs
Great video, sir. Thank you very much. I've been looking for a detailed video like this.
Thanks! Glad to help out! Thanks for Watching!!!
How did you get the pulley off the bottom of the motor
Where can I get nylon bushings in Throttle arm and governor arm?
Taking 23hp intek v twin and replace it with 21hp intek v twin. 21hp have two cables and 23hp only have one cable? Do you know why?
Unless its a cable for throttle and choke, one may have a auto choke.. Thanks for Watching!!!
Nice ! I know what to watch if, I ever get a V-Twin. Thank you.
Your welcome! Hopefully it will come in handy some day! Thanks for Watching!!!
On our Ferris Z turn we replaced a B&S 25 hp V twin 44t977 code 0005G1 engine with a different B&S 25 hp V twin 449t977 code 0015G1. The choke cable connection is the same but the throttle connection is different and we cannot see where it goes and the parts manual is no help. Do you have a video or photo?
I hear ya, no actually this is the only v twin video i have, most of my videos are on the older single cylinders. wish i could help more! I will be having a video here in a few weeks or so on a horizontal shaft vanguard v twin but i think it will be completely different though. Thanks for Watching!!!
Great video, got a question! My briggs&Stratton v twin model # 303777 -1147 old late 80s i think.when the throttle arm is in wide open the gov rod turns counter clockwise, which is contradecirte to all the videos I see on you tube.i don't want to adjust it wrong and cause damage what do you think thanks
I have a John Deere D160 with an Engine: Briggs & Stratton 44M777 ; Type 0288G5.
I was seeing smoke coming out of the exhaust and could smell gas in the oil.
I am in the process of cleaning / reinstalling the carburetor.
Although I took some pictures before I disassembled it, I am having difficulty determining how to reattach the linkage for the choke and throttle.
Can you please provide help / input on this?
Thanks for the input ;
It can be difficult to reinstall everything, sometimes you'll have to twist the carb sideways to get the linkage back on. This is the only video i have on that engine. Thanks for Watching!!!
Have the same car system on my Briggs and Stratton 22hp intek. It idles good then it pops once about every 15 seconds and when I open the throttle it won't open up. Just idles good with a pop here and there. What do you think
I replaced the plugs filter and fuel pump still have the same problem
May need to clean carburetor, if its running to lean it will pop like that, also might want to check valve clearance as well. Thanks for Watching!!!
I have a 24hp professional on my craftsman the rpms seem to be low can’t get a got suction or chop I put new blades all the time they tell me you can’t adjust these carbs to get a higher rpm or horsepower what do you think actually have to turn the idol screw way up to do my leaves in the fall and motor is 4 years old
Sounds like either the governor spring is weak or the governor is out of adjustment. Thanks for Watching!!!
Very helpful video. Thankyou!
Glad to help out, Thanks for Watching!!!
Where do you connect the wind vain linkage
Giday, I've done everything that the video's have shown me how to set the governor on a B&S V twin 20 hp and it still wont work properly. All that was orginally done was I loosened the bolt that clamps onto the governor shaft to try to slow the idle speed which i now know was a non and now after doing every thing i been shown on your videos it wont idle down. Any suggestions? Please help. John.
Its possible that the internal governor weight assembly has broken or isn't working, it could have came apart when the governor was out of adjustment. That would be my guess. Its a inexpensive part but takes some work to get to (tearing motor apart, etc). Thanks for Watching!!!
I need to adjust my governor on my 20 hp briggs v twin...it runs good but with the throttle down to idle..it goes up and down causing it to "burp"through the carb...carb has been taken apart cleaned and rebuilt....never have adjusted the governor...ive watched videos on how to do it.....since mine is on the tractor...i just push throttle to wide open then loosen jam nut..push arm over to right and take a wrench and turn the adjuster nut all the way to the right ..then tighten jam nut.....sound right?
Yes that sounds correct. Thanks for Watching!!!
My v-twin ran, bogging down sometimes. Took apart carb, cleaned it, fixed fuel solenoid, put together and tried running. It starts, but with throttle low, as you open choke engine starts to race. Any thoughts? I followed directions to confirm governed arm adjustment but issue persists
I've seen this happen before on these engines, make sure there is not a linkage or spring in a bind. If all of that checks out then its possible its the internal governor that either broke or came loose, i've had it happen before. hope this helps, Thanks for Watching!!!
Do you know know where to buy all of the linkages somebody rigged up mine and I need all of the because the snapped
I'd check on ebay, you may or may not be able to find them brand new. hanks for Watching!!!
I have a mint 2009 john deere zero trun with a 22 or 23 twin engine when I bought it from a friend he was using start fluid to crank it cable had moved and choke plate was not closing set it where it close now cranks fine but idles high😮
GM... I enjoy your videos Thank you.
My 22to Briggs runs WOT...I don't know what I've done wrong.
What could cause this....I've follow all procedures.
Can throttle cable be a factor? I'm really at a lose, it ran fine prior to me cleaning the carb.
(No WOT) thanks in advance
Your welcome! These v twins are bad about the internal governor piece going bad, and also make sure the governor is adjusted and all the linkages are moving freely. Thanks for Watching!!!
I have a 2014 23hp commercial turf briggs v twin. Had the engine split, replaced the big gasket & crankshaft seal. It was leaking oil with only 280 hours on it. The engines back together but now the RPM are all over the place. I turn the throttle up, it responds 10 seconds later, revs high. Any thoughts? I'm hoping it's not internal. This engine is getting the best of me lol. Thanks for your videos.
They are bad about leaking for some reason. I would try adjusting the governor first, i have a video on it, not this particular engine but it will adjust the same. Try that first and let me know what it does then. Your welcome, Thanks for Watching!!!
@@fnaguitarplayer9 thanks for your reply! We replaced the entire bottom cast piece along with the gaskets. There were hair line stress cracks on the old one. This is what my small engine mechanic just told me. Also, he had already played around with adjusting it with no luck.
"The failed part is a 12 cent Jesus clip. The part is the retaining clip on the fly weights inside the engine"
I like to know you opinion on this! Thanks again
Thanks much appreciated
Your welcome, thanks for watching!!!
Which slot does the linkage from the throttle level hook into the small circle?
The cable will connect in the hole on the front and there should just be a spring on the other side if i remember right, because it sets the tension on the governor arm. Thanks for Watching!!!
I am a little confused. I changed out the carburetor on mine and I was expecting that when the throttle was opened, it would cause the throttle linkage to move and actuate the intakes in the carburetor. After the replacement, it would not start, but when I manually hold "up" the linkage on the throttle side it starts up fine. Can someone help me understand what the issue is? Thanks!
Roger DeBlois had by a dom ☝
Exactly what I needed. Thanks!!
Your welcome, Thanks for Watching!!!
I have a new 22 hp Intek and how do you turn up the rpms it is too Low and this is how it was when I pulled it out the box have not touched it it has two slots on the governor arm and it is on number two can you help me
The arm should come preset, but i could be wrong, you would normally just have to connect and adjust the cables. Thanks for Watching!!!
I have a 2005 Yamaha v star classic, was told it had an aftermarket governor on it. How do I find and remove governor?
Not sure what they mean by aftermarket governor and not right off hand without seeing it. Thanks for Watching!!!
You still didn't show how to put the throttle cable on with the linkages? Someone Jimmy rigged mine and I need to know how it goes the correct way..
Sorry, on these the cable's z bend goes into the round looking piece then gets clamped in place. hanks for Watching!!!
@@fnaguitarplayer9 mine doesn't a have a z bend set up. Thanks
Motor is surging at high Rpm while mowing under load. Runs great other wise. Could I need to adjust the gov. Springs
It's either that or the carb mixture needs to be slightly richer. Thanks for watching!
Have a Briggs 27 horse turf series with 87 hours (2017 Ferris zero turn). Removed the air filter and cleaned up the foam cover and put back together. Ever since the engine will surge when under a load. Could dirt have gotten into the carb and if so is it hard to remove and clean up or would that be the problem?
Its possible, but usually when dirt is a problem is when it gets in the fuel and clogs a jet, it should get clogged if dirt got in from the intake. You could try spraying some carb cleaner in while its running and see if that helps it. Thanks for Watching!!!
Guitar player: Me too. Great vid. You mentioned there are more than one carbs used on different engines. Can you tell me if they are interchangeable to the different engines. My Carb. is identical to yours. I think someone installed a different carb and manifold assembly on mine. is that possible would it make a difference?? I'm having problems ordering carburetor parts and gaskets. Also linkage rods are all twisted and bent for some reason?. I was thinking about purchasing an assembly for my model engine in e-bay. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Engine numbers are 21.5hp B&S, M#445777, type 0172-E1 It ran good for a while. It just started running bad.
I hear ya! Thanks, I was mainly referring to brands on this particular engine, there maybe other carbs that will work and would explain the bent linkages. Its hard to say without actually looking at it. Thanks for Watching!!!
Great video, thanks!
Your welcome! Thanks for Watching!
Show me the picture of throttle cable hook up
When I increase the throttle, the throttle cable rotates the throttle control counter-clockwise, which puts tension on the governor spring. When I decrease the throttle, the reverse happens, as expected. What doesn't move is the throttle linkage, which actually controls the throttle body. When I crank my engine it runs at very high RPM and I am concerned it is running away. Will the governor adjust the governor arm as the engine warms up? I always shut the mower off b/c I am scared its going to throw something! I suppose I should mention that I just removed and cleaned the carb (no rebuild).
Yeah that is normal, as soon as it fires up and the governor starts working (when it comes up to speed the weights sling out and will push the rod) it will move the linkage to idle or whatever it is set at, if it doesn't idle down then you do have a problem, usually just needing to be adjusted. Thanks for Watching!!!
Got anything newer than a 1956 model?
Yeah, this engine here is actually not that old, but mainly yes i do work on alot of older engines. Thanks for Watching!!!
Until I saw your video, I sure didn't know that the lower "tab" holding the lower end of the governor idle spring (smaller spring) was used to help change the idle speed. You sure saved me big time there!
I broke the throttle linkage on my engine and made a replacement. I made what I thought was a good match size wise, but was not 100% sure if the length was "really" right. I falsely assumed that just by adjusting the governor arms setting , that would basically compensate for that linkage being slightly off length-wise. However, using that new linkage, I found that the (Larger) main governor spring was still fairly loose (sloppy) when the engine was off & with the engine running at full throttle, it ran noticeably slower than before. I could push down on the governor arm and get it to speed up.
Questions
Q 1) Do you know the correct length of the throttle linkage at the points where it engages both of the 2 appropriate holes?
Q2) Should the (Larger) main governor spring be under slight tension at "off" or what?
PS
Really good video, very helpful!
I hear ya! Glad to help out! Yeah you almost have to exact part to replace them, to do it right. I don't have the specs handy, but there will be a slight to no tension at idle. not much, but there should be quite a bit when you throttle up. hope this helps. Thanks for Watching!!!
My Governor Linkage is on the top controled by Flywheel
governor rod not letting carb return to idle. idle very high
These have a governed idle, you can adjust it by bending the tab on the smaller spring. Thanks for Watching!!!
I was wondering where the cable itself went to
The throttle cable? It connects to the round looking piece on these. Thanks for Watching!!!
Great video from someone who knows what he is talking about.
Next video, could you please hold the camera still? The bouncing around was really distracting...
Appreciate that. most of my videos are done with a tripod but some videos its nearly impossible to use a tripod, i try my best and that camera i was using then didn't have stabilization on it, my new one does. Thanks for Watching!!!
Mines running away.
Try to adjust the governor first (i have another video on it) if it still doesn't fix it, then the internal governor piece may be broke. Thanks for Watching!!!
@@fnaguitarplayer9 well looks like I'm going into the motor. Thanks
Stop moving the camera around so much so we can see and understand what you’re doing!!
Sorry, I can't do all the videos with a tripod so i can only do so much. Thanks For Watching!
tried to watch and couldn't camera work was too all over the place
Sorry, i did the best I could with what i have to work with. hanks for Watching!!!
I got a 95 cub cadet 1641 with the b&s v twin it is running wide open would that be the governor?
It can be several things, worst case is the internal governor, but it can be a loose linkage, or spring. Or the governor may just need adjusted. Thanks for Watching!!!