Good, fair review Rob. I bought a BPS B1 Bushcraft knife earlier this year. I'd never built or modified a knife before so I thought I'd have a crack at improving it. I removed the original handle and fitted orange liners and stabilised myrtle wood scales, wet-fitted the sheath to the new handle then re-stitched the sheath with orange thread to match the liners. I polished out all the imperfections when I shaped the new handle. It's now one of my favourite knives, and it was an absolute bargain.
I bought my BPS just before the war outbreak. I cold blued the blade to reduce rust after 0000 steel wool treatment on tooling marks. Handle was a bit rough, so hand sanded and used Linseed oil to seal. Mink oil on the sheath that was excellent. Unfortunately, I can't afford a custom knife for myself, but I'm happy with BPS. Cheers from New Orleans
I with you. I have their knives and the hatchet. So I guess knowing how to sharpen and treat knifes make them a great deal for me! But I guess some people walk into a ford dealership looking for a Farrari
Interesting design and made in 1095 rather than the usual 1066. I have a few BPS knives and quality can be a bit hit or miss. Overall, they are still a great value. Thanks for sharing Rob
According to the website it's 1066 carbon steel and 2,8 mm thick. To me anything less thick than 3mm doesn't need a saber grind for outdoor use. 4mm or thicker and still want it to be a good food prep knife (slicer) a flat or high saber grind does make sense. On this one it's a miss. They just wanted the knife to look like the DBG (Dutch Bushcraft Girls) knife and charge extra so they can get their 10%. So the knife needs work, the sheath is leather but rubbish, the handle from the firesteel comes off. Get a new sheath and fix the other problems and it's no longer a budget knife. You can get a Joker knife with micarta scales for the same price and you don't have to fix anything and have perfect fit and finish.. I'm not talking down on BPS. Take for instance the Adventurer by BPS. You now have about the same knife but better at food prep, a firesteel and a leather sheath that works and it's even cheaper (10% cheaper). You can buy and start using that knife without having to fix anything and now we're talking about a budget outdoor knife.
It is 1066, I got it wrong, I've yet to try a joker, I only hear good things about them , it's definitely thicker than 2.8mm and I agree that it's too thin for a sabre grind.
The bps knives I’ve gotten so far I would argue the sheathe is worth as much as the knife, kinda crazy how badly they messed this one up considering they could’ve used the standard sheathe they had already.
Rob, I am not a member, but Merry Christmas anyway. Thanks for your gift of knowledge and entertainment in 2023. With my broken leg, it has been a great diversion.
Good point on smooth steel - just got the Savage which is rough and rusts like crazy. My other BPS is like a mirror and vastly better. Thanks for your expertise.
Great and fair review I have two of theirs A small one and a big one Can’t remember the numbers Both arrived wicked sharp with scandi zero grind Excellent users The small one backpacking The sheath is a little flimsy but the newer one have better leather The large one an amazing field knife
If you're on a budget, I think for £50 and a couple of hours work you could turn that into a reasonable knife and the work that goes into it will make it personal to the owner which will give it more appeal than a cheap Mora to some people.
Its a fair assessment. I think they are inconsistent. I have one of these knives and it doesn't have all of the defects that yours has. But as you mentioned, its hard to beat the knife at the price. Great video! Thanks!
Same. Even though i dont like the wooden handle and particularly the weak spot near the choil that will crack that Rob mentions. But i have a 1095 BK7 that hangs above my wood stove in my basement to bust up kindling and havent had to touch up the edge in 3 season! I hear the 1066 is not as good
Wow, what a blunt knife! I'd expect sharp from the box. I keep mine all scalpel sharp. I have 3 Mora knives. I have a few Opinels, my main knife is an old MOD knife.
That's unfortunate about the ferro handle and the sheath retention strap. The leather they use is great, I replaced the sheath that came with my Bark River knives with BPS sheaths that fit perfectly and are better quality.
Watched a review by someone whining about the Mora Garberg.Carbon today. Basically the same very minor issues that were mostly personal preference, and evidently a general complete lack of knowledge about the sheath system or how to make inexpensive non invasive add one so that the retention strap can still be used WITH a much better belt loop.idea, so guy was belittling Bush crafting , fire craft etc. I did NOT subscribe, have no intention of doing so. I thought "Bud if you can't look.around and find simple modifications to easily improve a Garbetg, please don't buy a BPS!" 😂 I enjoy little projects like this tho!😂
agree with review, except the grind is pretty thick for a small knife. Recommend regrind to thinner bevel, but a commercial company would be hesitant to do it at such a low price. They will get too many complaints :)
Not for me, as you say you can't go wrong with a mora, not a chance on earth I'd pay a ton for that even with decent scales on. It's a cheap and cheerful knife okay but not for me. Thanks for showing it though.👍🏻
This is not 1095, its SAE 1066, 60% carton compared to 95% carbon. It's a simplest of spring steels I think. It's fine for a hard use knife, but definitely as simple as it gets.
I'm huge fan of Mora, recently found out that, here in Bulgaria, we have a nice knife company called Manly. Now I'm in love with those blades. Got a D2 fixed knife model called Patriot, small beast. Tho its not scandi. There also other models with different sizes and steel types like cpm 154, rwl 34. What is your opinion on them if you are familiar?
I have one. I like the knive but the sheath is horseshit. I use a sheeth from my BS2FT wich works very well. Mine has a very pointy tip and the firesteel is firm in the wood. I think they should use there standard sheath and scap this one. I dont mind a knive that needs a little work. The B1 that i also own needed a bit because it had sharp edges on the handlepart. Unscrewed the scales and get rid of the bur with a small file. Now its perfect.
However, it must be admitted that the sheath is made of very good leather and well finished. I hope that BPS will draw constructive conclusions, because they have the potential to become a Premium brand (within a reasonable budget) in the future. I keep my fingers crossed for them 💪
@@RobEvansWoodsmanas any true survivalist should :D if you ever make it to India do let us know, I'd love to show you around the Nilgiris, my district in Tamil Nadu and maybe you can compare your Parang to our Koita, Katthi, and Khukuri :)
I've got one and yes my only niggle is the sheath, why steer away from their standard designs which work so well, and for the I'd rather have my plastic two thirds tang Mora people they have a Mora lookalike with full tang and leather sheath that doesn't cost an arm and a leg (Sorry mini let off steam moment over 😇)
@RobEvansWoodsman PS I purchased the extra sheath with ferro rod tube for their Woodlore/Condor clone direct from BPS so I had a spare sheath, there is a degree of commonality in fit between sheaths for the same blade length despite their style so voila I had a good sheath for the DBK knife no tube however, thus will do however till I employ my limited skills in an attempt to modify the original (the stud unscrews)
Good, fair review Rob. I bought a BPS B1 Bushcraft knife earlier this year. I'd never built or modified a knife before so I thought I'd have a crack at improving it. I removed the original handle and fitted orange liners and stabilised myrtle wood scales, wet-fitted the sheath to the new handle then re-stitched the sheath with orange thread to match the liners. I polished out all the imperfections when I shaped the new handle. It's now one of my favourite knives, and it was an absolute bargain.
I bought my BPS just before the war outbreak. I cold blued the blade to reduce rust after 0000 steel wool treatment on tooling marks. Handle was a bit rough, so hand sanded and used Linseed oil to seal. Mink oil on the sheath that was excellent. Unfortunately, I can't afford a custom knife for myself, but I'm happy with BPS. Cheers from New Orleans
I with you. I have their knives and the hatchet. So I guess knowing how to sharpen and treat knifes make them a great deal for me! But I guess some people walk into a ford dealership looking for a Farrari
❤ cheers Rob
Interesting design and made in 1095 rather than the usual 1066. I have a few BPS knives and quality can be a bit hit or miss. Overall, they are still a great value. Thanks for sharing Rob
I was wrong, it's 1066 , looked like 1095 on the blade.
Rob! Just saw my unnecessary shout out at the end of this video. I’ll always support you man… no need to thank! Appreciate your work.
That was incredibly kind of you my friend.
Merry Christmas.
According to the website it's 1066 carbon steel and 2,8 mm thick. To me anything less thick than 3mm doesn't need a saber grind for outdoor use. 4mm or thicker and still want it to be a good food prep knife (slicer) a flat or high saber grind does make sense. On this one it's a miss. They just wanted the knife to look like the DBG (Dutch Bushcraft Girls) knife and charge extra so they can get their 10%. So the knife needs work, the sheath is leather but rubbish, the handle from the firesteel comes off. Get a new sheath and fix the other problems and it's no longer a budget knife. You can get a Joker knife with micarta scales for the same price and you don't have to fix anything and have perfect fit and finish.. I'm not talking down on BPS. Take for instance the Adventurer by BPS. You now have about the same knife but better at food prep, a firesteel and a leather sheath that works and it's even cheaper (10% cheaper). You can buy and start using that knife without having to fix anything and now we're talking about a budget outdoor knife.
It is 1066, I got it wrong, I've yet to try a joker, I only hear good things about them , it's definitely thicker than 2.8mm and I agree that it's too thin for a sabre grind.
The bps knives I’ve gotten so far I would argue the sheathe is worth as much as the knife, kinda crazy how badly they messed this one up considering they could’ve used the standard sheathe they had already.
Rob, I am not a member, but Merry Christmas anyway. Thanks for your gift of knowledge and entertainment in 2023. With my broken leg, it has been a great diversion.
Thanks, same to you mate.
Consistently the best most honest reviewer on the choob 👍🏻
Thank you Rob for your always very detailed and very interesting opinion 🤠
Cheers Rob I've one on the way, looking forward to getting it. I'll put it on my stones when it lands.
Nice honest review Rob ,be interesting to see how well it performs feather stick making etc 👍🏻
Good point on smooth steel - just got the Savage which is rough and rusts like crazy. My other BPS is like a mirror and vastly better.
Thanks for your expertise.
Great and fair review
I have two of theirs
A small one and a big one
Can’t remember the numbers
Both arrived wicked sharp with scandi zero grind
Excellent users
The small one backpacking
The sheath is a little flimsy but the newer one have better leather
The large one an amazing field knife
Looks like that sneaked through quality assurance. It’s a shame as I’ve the BPS Adventurer and I can’t say a bad word about it.
If you're on a budget, I think for £50 and a couple of hours work you could turn that into a reasonable knife and the work that goes into it will make it personal to the owner which will give it more appeal than a cheap Mora to some people.
I like that way of looking at it.
Its a fair assessment. I think they are inconsistent. I have one of these knives and it doesn't have all of the defects that yours has. But as you mentioned, its hard to beat the knife at the price. Great video! Thanks!
Hey Rob, had my F1 out the other day and thought about you. My new knife cxming is a Joker Avispa in 14c28n. Thanks for a greeat video.
I believe these are 1066 not 1095. I would buy one instantly if they were 1095.
Same. Even though i dont like the wooden handle and particularly the weak spot near the choil that will crack that Rob mentions. But i have a 1095 BK7 that hangs above my wood stove in my basement to bust up kindling and havent had to touch up the edge in 3 season! I hear the 1066 is not as good
Wow, what a blunt knife! I'd expect sharp from the box. I keep mine all scalpel sharp. I have 3 Mora knives. I have a few Opinels, my main knife is an old MOD knife.
That's unfortunate about the ferro handle and the sheath retention strap. The leather they use is great, I replaced the sheath that came with my Bark River knives with BPS sheaths that fit perfectly and are better quality.
Watched a review by someone whining about the Mora Garberg.Carbon today. Basically the same very minor issues that were mostly personal preference, and evidently a general complete lack of knowledge about the sheath system or how to make inexpensive non invasive add one so that the retention strap can still be used WITH a much better belt loop.idea, so guy was belittling Bush crafting , fire craft etc. I did NOT subscribe, have no intention of doing so. I thought "Bud if you can't look.around and find simple modifications to easily improve a Garbetg, please don't buy a BPS!" 😂 I enjoy little projects like this tho!😂
It looks like a nice shaped knife, but even a cheaper knife should be sharp. I would definitely go for a Mora, I can rely on what I get. 😊
agree with review, except the grind is pretty thick for a small knife. Recommend regrind to thinner bevel, but a commercial company would be hesitant to do it at such a low price. They will get too many complaints :)
Not for me, as you say you can't go wrong with a mora, not a chance on earth I'd pay a ton for that even with decent scales on. It's a cheap and cheerful knife okay but not for me. Thanks for showing it though.👍🏻
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This is not 1095, its SAE 1066, 60% carton compared to 95% carbon. It's a simplest of spring steels I think. It's fine for a hard use knife, but definitely as simple as it gets.
Interested to see how this performs long term mate. Hope all's well, atb Andy
It won't be used long term as I'm going to give it away on a member giveaway after a little modification.
Great vid! Thanks for sharing. I think the steel is 1066 carbon?
The etch was faint but looked like 1095, I could be wrong, even I'm wrong sometimes 🤣🤣👍
They must have applied a DBK tax to it. They have other (larger) scandi models for less.
I'm huge fan of Mora, recently found out that, here in Bulgaria, we have a nice knife company called Manly. Now I'm in love with those blades. Got a D2 fixed knife model called Patriot, small beast. Tho its not scandi. There also other models with different sizes and steel types like cpm 154, rwl 34. What is your opinion on them if you are familiar?
Manly knives look really good, no nonsense knives.
moras version of the same knife would cost you an arm and a leg with stainless sandvik steel so this is a way better deal
Finish on the wood moras are terrible for the money, I was going to buy one for a review but when I saw them I didn't bother.
Hey mate, the steel is 1066, not 1095. The specs on their website state that. Is it only me or it rusts fairly easy?
Sorry I got the steel wrong.
I have one. I like the knive but the sheath is horseshit. I use a sheeth from my BS2FT wich works very well. Mine has a very pointy tip and the firesteel is firm in the wood. I think they should use there standard sheath and scap this one. I dont mind a knive that needs a little work. The B1 that i also own needed a bit because it had sharp edges on the handlepart. Unscrewed the scales and get rid of the bur with a small file. Now its perfect.
Dumb question, but how do I find the description area?
Just between the screen and comments, I think!
@@RobEvansWoodsman I was going to send you a couple bucks, and I still will if I can find it.
@@The-Armed-Pacifist that's very kind of you Rodney.
Look harder 😜🤣🤣🤣
If you put a few hours of work into it, they would be much much better. It's a pity, because the knife has a lot of potential in my opinion 💪🏻.
It definitely has potential, it's just a shame that sheath was terrible, a simple taco sheath would be more practical and easier to make.
However, it must be admitted that the sheath is made of very good leather and well finished. I hope that BPS will draw constructive conclusions, because they have the potential to become a Premium brand (within a reasonable budget) in the future. I keep my fingers crossed for them 💪
Maybe limited convex edition in some models????🤪
Lies...you drink tea 🙃😁
There isn't a "buy me a cup of tea app!"
I drink both 👍
@@RobEvansWoodsmanas any true survivalist should :D if you ever make it to India do let us know, I'd love to show you around the Nilgiris, my district in Tamil Nadu and maybe you can compare your Parang to our Koita, Katthi, and Khukuri :)
@@adrianjagmag I have been to India but It was with my wife on a tourist trip, you may not know this but I love Indian food!
I've got one and yes my only niggle is the sheath, why steer away from their standard designs which work so well, and for the I'd rather have my plastic two thirds tang Mora people they have a Mora lookalike with full tang and leather sheath that doesn't cost an arm and a leg (Sorry mini let off steam moment over 😇)
Everyone needs to vent !
@RobEvansWoodsman PS I purchased the extra sheath with ferro rod tube for their Woodlore/Condor clone direct from BPS so I had a spare sheath, there is a degree of commonality in fit between sheaths for the same blade length despite their style so voila I had a good sheath for the DBK knife no tube however, thus will do however till I employ my limited skills in an attempt to modify the original (the stud unscrews)