Yeah, it will take me at least that long to sound as good as you on it. I just want to make it through! TBH - the thing that kills me is the ostinato on the BD. It makes the rudiments 10x harder to play
Hey David, I've stumbled through to the beginning of the Swiss Rudiments. How do you handle the few rudiments that are triplets with the ostinato foot pattern? At 160 bpm like you have it it's nearly impossible to not make the foot match the triplet - i.e. it's very difficult to do true 3/2. I need to listen carefully to what you've done but maybe you can let us know here. Thanks.
This actual video is performed by John Riley ... It's from the book Drummers Vocabulary as taught by Alan Dawson. Make sure to listen to Johns version because The phrasing on this is wrong the only advantage is you're actually seeing the written parts as you're playing
I’m studying with John Ramsey now, a great teacher and nice guy and he just started me on this , it’s driving me crazy trying to memorize it. I’m doing it at quarter equals 120. Anything special you do to help you memorize it?
Mr Ramsey I don't know what to tell you everyone else plays this but they just don't have the right feel I can't put my finger on it but it must be just some little kind of swing thing that Allen taught you
In Alans book, when you get to the ritual, it says to go back and review all the rudiments with brushes, then perform the ritual with brushes over a bosa nova foot ostinato. So, he wants you to go back and repeat all the rudiments with brushes before doing the ritual?
What he wants you to do and what is practical the two different things try to work your way through it as best you can.... If you listen to the way Dawson plays it with brushes there are a lot of sloppy elements to it. The most important thing is to be accurate
It's actually this guy playing over the original track .... Make sure to listen to the original version performed by John Ramsey because this guy's phrasing is wrong I have no idea why they include the picture of the book but I guess it's a good plug for Ramsey
True, this the “slow version” for Alan Dawson in his book compared to the faster version though. I didn’t name it, the author did. And this exercise should take years to complete.
@@DavidREsau yes it does David, I work it everyday. If I'm not mistaken this is John's book. My time with Dawson, he had me do this low and slow. Drove me mad. I mean it, just nutz. But you know what that slow regiment did so to me slow is not this tempo. Nice job tho Dave.
@@DavidREsau sure, try it at 78 per quarter. Play all grace notes open and then closed, keep it low. Don't forget feet! Take care, let's keep shedding 👍
Ok so you're overdubbing on the original track and including John Ramsey's words it's a little confusing..... Some of the phrasing that John uses is different than what you're playing so I would suggest to any viewers to check out the actual track by the book so you can get the real feel
I'm so glad to have come across this exercise. This is some seriously mind blowing stuff. Thanks for posting!
Merci ❤
One of the best performances and videos of this I've found. Thank you. My goal for this year is to get through this.
Yeah, it will take me at least that long to sound as good as you on it. I just want to make it through! TBH - the thing that kills me is the ostinato on the BD. It makes the rudiments 10x harder to play
Hey David, I've stumbled through to the beginning of the Swiss Rudiments. How do you handle the few rudiments that are triplets with the ostinato foot pattern? At 160 bpm like you have it it's nearly impossible to not make the foot match the triplet - i.e. it's very difficult to do true 3/2. I need to listen carefully to what you've done but maybe you can let us know here. Thanks.
My goal for 2021
@@jordanzimmerman7590 dont think about it. Approach it in auto pilot. it becomes second nature. Do it over and over until it sinks in.
This actual video is performed by John Riley ... It's from the book Drummers Vocabulary as taught by Alan Dawson.
Make sure to listen to Johns version because The phrasing on this is wrong the only advantage is you're actually seeing the written parts as you're playing
So well taught….and played….and so pleasant to listen to….I will practice this: each line 7 times for good luck. Motivating video.thanks x 7.
Even at this tempo….very challenging….may have to go at 90 bpm. Excellent well played….thanks
Thank you.
awesome thanks!
beautiful
Menos mal q es la version Lenta!!!
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still love it!!
"Slow" lol
To me, this is performance tempo. I just started putting the hands and feet together, and I'm comfortably playing at 60BPM.
I’m studying with John Ramsey now, a great teacher and nice guy and he just started me on this , it’s driving me crazy trying to memorize it. I’m doing it at quarter equals 120. Anything special you do to help you memorize it?
Just keep listening to it even while driving your car or exercising.
Mr Ramsey I don't know what to tell you everyone else plays this but they just don't have the right feel I can't put my finger on it but it must be just some little kind of swing thing that Allen taught you
This is also great at 1.75 playback speed
That's so well played it will sound good at any speed I suggest really 75 because you're going to get more out of it listening to it slower
In Alans book, when you get to the ritual, it says to go back and review all the rudiments with brushes, then perform the ritual with brushes over a bosa nova foot ostinato. So, he wants you to go back and repeat all the rudiments with brushes before doing the ritual?
Hi there, after you are done with sticks, go back with brushes and repeat the entire exercise.
What he wants you to do and what is practical the two different things try to work your way through it as best you can.... If you listen to the way Dawson plays it with brushes there are a lot of sloppy elements to it. The most important thing is to be accurate
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Is it you or John Ramsey playing?
I’m playing along to the pre-recorded track.
@@DavidREsauoh now I see how this is so snarey ;) nicely done!
This audio is the same audio that comes with the book, performed by John Ramsey, no?
It's actually this guy playing over the original track .... Make sure to listen to the original version performed by John Ramsey because this guy's phrasing is wrong I have no idea why they include the picture of the book but I guess it's a good plug for Ramsey
Nice but this nowhere near a slow tempo. Suppose its all relative to some but not from a technical POV
True, this the “slow version” for Alan Dawson in his book compared to the faster version though. I didn’t name it, the author did. And this exercise should take years to complete.
@@DavidREsau yes it does David, I work it everyday. If I'm not mistaken this is John's book. My time with Dawson, he had me do this low and slow. Drove me mad. I mean it, just nutz. But you know what that slow regiment did so to me slow is not this tempo. Nice job tho Dave.
If you can read the music, just set a metronome to whatever tempo feels good for you. Don’t forget the foot pattern. 👌🏽
@@DavidREsau sure, try it at 78 per quarter. Play all grace notes open and then closed, keep it low. Don't forget feet! Take care, let's keep shedding 👍
Ok so you're overdubbing on the original track and including John Ramsey's words it's a little confusing..... Some of the phrasing that John uses is different than what you're playing so I would suggest to any viewers to check out the actual track by the book so you can get the real feel