Red Faction's Revolutionary Design Lineage

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @ChrisLT
    @ChrisLT Год назад +87

    Always had a soft spot for RF. And Guerilla is fun to this day. From the era where you could 100% an open world game in under 20 hours.

    • @brokenbond2012
      @brokenbond2012 Год назад +1

      Yea i bought it twice bc i wanted to have it on both platforms ps4 and switch, its a great game and stil holds up i think

    • @kurzackd
      @kurzackd Год назад +1

      If you 100%-ed Guerilla in under 20 hours, then you didn't really 100% it.
      Even on the easiest setting, it will take you more than 50.

  • @Oneiromancer._.
    @Oneiromancer._. Год назад +59

    I too sometimes think of the enemy soldier, who is trained and has lived their whole lives, up until the point they run into the protagonist and get domed in a fraction of a second.

    • @josephe9487
      @josephe9487 Год назад +1

      In the remarsterd version we say faction of a second

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd Год назад +43

    The *Reconstructor* weapon which you so praise in the *Armageddon* section of this review *is actually present in GUERILLA as well* ...
    You just have to beat the game's main story / mission line to obtain it from the *Weapons table* ! :)

  • @sukamadik5983
    @sukamadik5983 Год назад +44

    The first game has a crazy amount of hidden stuff if you are willing to blow a ton of stuff up. You can actually make an entire section of a level collapse if you have enough ammo, killing everything on that section of the level.

  • @jamestolbert9521
    @jamestolbert9521 Год назад +7

    Your script is just too good every single video, please never stop. I'll watch every time.

  • @Sylvastier
    @Sylvastier Год назад +16

    swear you always catch me off guard with which games from my childhood you decide to cover. Never expected Red Faction, Valk Profile, and Prince of Persia touched now adays. (And those are the popular ones unlike Nights in a Nightmare and Ribbit King) , yet you always provide! Kbash my goat!
    hopes to see Spectrobes or Tak some day as well, but honestly always love to see a fun and wordy perspective on my random childhood impulse buys!

    • @kurzackd
      @kurzackd Год назад +1

      Pretty sure you mean *K* nights in *the* Nightmare?
      Also, such a weird thing to mention it *plus* Ribbit King *and* Valk Profile in the same sentence and context as PoP and RF... O_o

  • @sukamadik5983
    @sukamadik5983 Год назад +26

    I love the weird rollercoaster of tone and quality that was Red Faction. The first one is still by far my favorite. That last game really killed the franchise though because it was so genetic compared to the previous 3 games.

  • @8lacKhawKtheRIPPER
    @8lacKhawKtheRIPPER Год назад +4

    5:16 -- If that is considered as "mildly harassing", I don't wanna know what KBash did to the theater kid back in high school

  • @UncleLayne
    @UncleLayne Год назад +4

    And of course the most important part of this series' legacy: being the inspiration for the song Space Asshole

  • @Tenchigumi
    @Tenchigumi Год назад +4

    Got some serious Blast Corps vibes when you started plowing through buildings in a truck.

  • @davidr7996
    @davidr7996 Год назад +5

    First time viewer. Love that you're willing to come right out and identify working-class ideology in addition to game elements. King shit energy.

  • @zevzero
    @zevzero Год назад +5

    Didn't expect a KBash video about a shooter but I am here for it! I actually really enjoyed this series. Great video!

  • @crossingtheline2189
    @crossingtheline2189 Год назад +9

    I played the red faction guerilla demo for endless hours. The destruction was so fun and then when I finally got the full game I was so happy to learn that's the game

    • @MrWhoopsie
      @MrWhoopsie 6 месяцев назад

      Was slightly disappointed though that the demo was basically the best mission on the game
      I too played the demo for hours 😂 was so good

  • @TheCrawl
    @TheCrawl Год назад +9

    I am a boomer shooter fan that loves vagrant story and knights in the nightmare-in other words, the exact type of person who watches KBash.
    (Tho I also love Metroid Prime, plz forgive my sins)

  • @pescando
    @pescando Год назад +5

    The mission titled: Start Your Engines for Guerrilla is possibly my favorite video game level/mission of all time. It’s pretty early on in the game. Cars are smashing into you, flying over your head, the clock is ticking, your allies are yelling at you on the comms, your vehicle is breaking apart. All the while, you’re crashing into these towers at top speed. I still think of it fondly every time anyone talks about Red Faction.

  • @taamox
    @taamox Год назад +2

    Almost missed this video, Im subbed and have the bell on and still didn't get a notif or see this in recommended until today. Damn youtube sucks lol

  • @zero2hero402
    @zero2hero402 Год назад +5

    Never thought I’d see anybody talk about the OG Red Faction and RF2 - awesome! I loved these games as a kid! Two of my favorites on PS2.
    Weirdly, I actually have a lot more positive memories of 2 than I do of 1, but all because of the multiplayer, which I largely played by myself. I remember it had this really cool feature where you could create bots to fight against, and as they did more matches and killed more enemies, you could increase their stats and they would progressively get more skilled. So I’d spend hours just playing and training alongside a couple of bots I’d built up just to see if I could stand up to them by myself once they’d reached their peak ability.

  • @slimeprivilege
    @slimeprivilege Год назад +3

    great vid kbash it's fun seeing a vid from you that's out of your norm. also it's interesting to think about all these shooters that had to release in HL's shadow while trying to up the ante to make it it's own unique take in the genre

  • @DonutSwordsman
    @DonutSwordsman Год назад

    Thanks for the vid, Im always in aww the amount of content you gift us with! Can't wait for the next!

  • @cheezburgrproduction
    @cheezburgrproduction Год назад +2

    Tried guerrilla at a friends house and got addicted to the multiplayer like crack. He woke up the next day to me still playing bloodshot eyes and all.

  • @chevaliusrex
    @chevaliusrex Год назад +3

    All this talk about red factions EDF has me Jonesing for some kbash content about the EDF games. That's some real wild shit

  • @dmaster5556
    @dmaster5556 Год назад

    21:09 "I don't own a hat"
    With a glorious mane like yours, frankly you don't need one!

  • @GothGfGG
    @GothGfGG Год назад +1

    Seen a sudden urge in red faction content lately, nice to see this series get some love

  • @Pyromuffin
    @Pyromuffin Год назад +2

    the vehicle sections are an homage to the descent series, which volition made previously.

    • @Road_to_Dawn
      @Road_to_Dawn Год назад +1

      Heyyy someone else knows about Descent! I remember playing the first game in my school’s computer lab in 8th grade. Freaking loved that game

    • @Pyromuffin
      @Pyromuffin Год назад +1

      descent likers unite

    • @Pyromuffin
      @Pyromuffin Год назад +1

      fun fact, red faction was originally descent 4, but they had to change the name due to interplay holding the publishing rights for the descent series.

  • @emanate0
    @emanate0 Год назад +1

    the first one was a masterpiece. i still remember tunneling in pvp in steal the suitcase for funsies against bots

  • @SamOliver4
    @SamOliver4 Год назад

    I love the reading of the Patreon names at the end because I keep imagining them as characters in a Smash Bros. style game and KBash announcing them as the voice lines that play when you select them lol.

  • @blakeunderwood8364
    @blakeunderwood8364 Год назад

    My boi at it again with the finesse

  • @Gruntvc
    @Gruntvc Год назад +1

    Fun fact, John Romero also worked on 2005's Area 51 FPS game too for Midway.
    As for Red Faction, I only liked the 1st game. Well, at least until the mercenaries are introduced...Music is great though.
    Man 2001 was a great year for FPS games: Halo CE, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Aliens Vs Predator 2, Red Faction, Operation Flashpoint Cold War Crisis, and Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon.
    Speaking of AVP, might make for a good review video considering the 1st FPS released on Atari Jaguar and we haven't had a new one since 2010's.
    And wait, 2001 FPS games are considered "boomer" shooters now too?

  • @wiiseeyou
    @wiiseeyou Год назад

    Just so you don't work yourself to death. A way to make a complete series review without diminishing views, could probably be achieved if you alternate between a few different series for your video releases. But keep it up! I love your videos and I think you produce great reviews.

  • @adamglen283
    @adamglen283 Год назад +2

    Loved making tunnels on multiplayer used to burrow my way across the map on the level with the 2 bunkers opposite each other 😅

  • @logicalphallusry
    @logicalphallusry Год назад +1

    My dear Kenneth Bashory, whatever will you get up to next? Timesplitters?

  • @PeteB90
    @PeteB90 Год назад +1

    I have fond memories of Red Faction, to me it was the first game that used both thumb controllers on PS2. My brother and cousin played the split screen all the time. Everyone wanted the rain gun to shoot through walls, or dig tunnels lol good times

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd Год назад +1

    *EXCELLENT* material there, man!
    Haven't played Armageddon, so can't comment on that, but otherwise your dissections of each of the other games were *(almost)* spot on!
    .
    Now, I *do take issue* with one particular segment of your review, however...
    Namely, your *criticisms* of some of *Guerilla's story aspects.* They are misguided. Bear with me:
    ...
    The game only took 2 - 2.5 years *(reportedly...)* to develop... *AT MOST...* By any means and standards, that's *NOT MUCH TIME* for a game of RF:G's calibre.
    If we have to be perfectly fair, what they actually managed to put out for that time period, as measured by the amount of in-game content is already *exceeding expectations* .
    The game's *BIG* , offers *A LOT* of various means of fun gameplay and enjoyment *(which you were kind enough to fully elaborate! :) )* , and has a satisfyingly and sufficiently long story arc.
    For the amount of development time, especially for back in those days, that was *HUGE.*
    ...
    And now, going back to that remark about the story...
    It just so happened that *THE LORE* had to take on the unfortunate role of *"that-ONE-thing-that-HAS-to-be- RUSHED / CUT / SACRIFICED"* , in order to actually *complete the game on time!*
    As a result, we end up with a story and participating characters that are *NOWHERE-near completely fleshed out and finalized* , due to said *time / development constraints.*
    As a result, we end up with *some* plot points that don't *(seem to)* make sense, *ESPECIALLY if you're primarly focused on the game's MANY other, and MORE attractive aspects... :)*
    ...
    And now here's the key moment:
    They don't *"seem to"* make sense, but ... *they actually DO* ... *IF you follow* the thread CLOSELY and read up on the lore within the Guerilla Handbook. (no, you *don't even need the wiki* ...)
    The *"marauders thingy doo-doo"* that you lament also happens to fall within this category of *"woah, woah, woah... wait... WHAT?"* aspects of the story.
    ...
    *MY take?* It all actually *made perfect sense* to me, and *I even anticipated it* to some degree. I *loved it* , actually! :)
    It just *fit* snugly within the narrative, especially combined with the chain of events that transpired in the previous games.
    But, like I already said, I was trying to really get *immersed* into the entire story + atmosphere + narrative, so I was able to *get* it.
    .
    Personally I *could* criticize *other* aspects of the story and gameplay/missions progression, but *I'd rather NOT...*
    .. BECAUSE :
    1) Game is awesome as it is, and a rare gem that deserves *(almost)* only glory and praise!
    2) As already said, I recognize that whatever errors there are in the game, they are *(almost)* entirely due to rushing / lack of time on the devs' part.
    .

    • @kurzackd
      @kurzackd Год назад +1

      um... no one is interested in this comment, really? :(
      Well... why do I even bother! :(

  • @APyralis
    @APyralis Год назад +1

    You near that small town, too...? O.o interesting... always thought you were down in the States!!

  • @maxmfpayne
    @maxmfpayne Год назад +2

    I really hate people who complain about linear games. Some of the best experiences I've had in video games were linear ones, hell even the best parts of some open world games are linear set pieces the game pulls you from the world to take part in. I love a good sandbox but that's not all anyone wants from games, a linear experience is one that can be tailored and constructed into something truly specially because the devs have more control over the player in a linear setting.

  • @qwellen7521
    @qwellen7521 Год назад +1

    I stand by that red faction deserves to be remade as a pure immersive sim.

  • @ashionblackmon7709
    @ashionblackmon7709 Год назад

    Ant watch you in a minute man great video man

  • @ultracrazed2215
    @ultracrazed2215 Год назад +1

    It's just you and me, miner!

  • @CrowQQ
    @CrowQQ Год назад +2

    EDF! EDF! EDF! ED...
    Wait...
    Wrong game

  • @timmer919hep
    @timmer919hep Год назад

    Pro Red Faction when, Civvi-
    Oh, wait, wrong channel.

  • @liamhobbs1401
    @liamhobbs1401 Год назад +2

    I remember really enjoying Armageddon's 'horde mode' purely using the magnet gun. I never played the other games!

    • @gamalieltorres7842
      @gamalieltorres7842 Год назад

      Yeah its a shame he didn't talk about any of the multiplayer modes they were quite fun

  • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
    @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Год назад +3

    In RF2 molov and his team is not red faction, they are supersoilders made by sopot who turned on him and were helping red faction take sopot down

  • @Rad-Dude63andathird
    @Rad-Dude63andathird 9 месяцев назад +1

    Kinda interesting how Volition's most notable works started somewhat grounded and both kept ramping up and getting less and less serious until their very last entries had absolutely nothing to do with the original concept. Saints Row 4 isn't about gangs at all (GoH is a spinoff also without gangs and the reboot isn't connected to the original series so I'm not counting them), and the revolution has been over for a while by the time Red Faction Armageddon starts.

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie Год назад +1

    Armageddon and SR4 are what happens when Volition get bored of working on the same project but aren't allowed to make a new IP.

  • @NemesisTWarlock
    @NemesisTWarlock Год назад

    You heard him, Civvie. The glove has been slapped.

  • @DIOBrando-ij2bp
    @DIOBrando-ij2bp Год назад +1

    It’s a shame Volition never used GeoMod in Saints Row, and it’s really stupid the reason they didn’t was because they thought people would think it looked bad.
    I remember playing the second game back when it came out. The GeoMod stuff in the first game was the reason to play that game, it was the selling point of that game that got talked up every time Red Faction was mentioned...so it was very odd they scaled that back to the degree they did. You go in expecting it to be even crazier than the first, only to be disappointed they pulled back on the whole selling point of Red Faction.
    I have to imagine the only reason Red Faction: Guerrilla shifted to third person was because, by the time they started it on, Saints Row was what they were known for.

  • @HurricaneXbox
    @HurricaneXbox Год назад

    Please do one of these style videos on the monster Hunter games, I know it’s probably a big project but this video and your souls video have been the best vids I’ve watched in years on here so well made and I just want more

    • @ElvenSonic
      @ElvenSonic Год назад

      that would be *murder*. Idk if kbash has ever played a Monster Hunter, but unless the guy exclusively plays the village quests in every title (which while fun does not provide a good impression of what the titles strengths and systems are) that’s a good 200-400 hours *per entry*.
      This is coming from the guy who’s actually put at least 100 hours into every entry (except Frontier) each title is a full summer’s commitment if you actually want to see what’s up.
      Considering how some of his videos on JRPGs have turned out recently, specifically with the long, grindy play times cutting into his actual income by not letting him produce videos in a timely manor and ultimately cutting into the quality of his criticisms, it would be a really bad idea.

  • @jimmykrabklaw1216
    @jimmykrabklaw1216 Год назад

    Man i remember playing redfaction back in the day when first came out. First time through the game i ended up doing the submarine sequence with out getting in the submarine and swam for what felt like an hour.

  • @ianhammock4564
    @ianhammock4564 Год назад

    Did...did you just quote "Darkplace" in the year of our lord 2023?
    Nice.

  • @Scatteredpast
    @Scatteredpast 4 месяца назад

    Genuinely loved my time with Armageddon, but guerilla is absolutely timeless

  • @antigrav6004
    @antigrav6004 Год назад +1

    My brother loved guerilla. It was a good time.

  • @sevirkenevans
    @sevirkenevans Год назад

    Need to see a Killzone retrospective after seeing how you took these games apart.

  • @ParmMannREBORN
    @ParmMannREBORN Год назад +1

    Man Red Faction 1 just kinda made me sad with how it's still relevant and probably will be forever

  • @R4nD0m57
    @R4nD0m57 Год назад +1

    Playing knights in the nightmare currently

  • @scubajho
    @scubajho Год назад +4

    For something in a similar genre, try the Conduit and Conduit 2 on the Wii. Take Halo and make it all about alien conspiracy theories. It's great.

    • @codybulluss1987
      @codybulluss1987 Год назад

      Those games were odd but enjoyable experiences.

  • @DeepestDankest
    @DeepestDankest Год назад +2

    I always confused Red Faction with Red Alert

  • @FLAMMABLEsquids
    @FLAMMABLEsquids Год назад +2

    i think you tweeted a little while ago, wondering why people watch your videos. well, i think this video is a perfect example of why i personally love hearing your thoughts. your humor is self aware and great, but it's how thoughtful you are with your critiques, especially in such a casually leftist way, that always grab me. you really, really think about these video games, with a little cynicism and a lot of empathy, and synthesize an easily digestible but in-depth analysis. love it.

  • @poisonarc
    @poisonarc Год назад

    Red Faction 2s squad introduction walked so Killzone 1 could run

  • @kinoko5566
    @kinoko5566 Год назад +1

    Bold of you to assume I could get a mortgage

  • @SwordsmanOrion
    @SwordsmanOrion Год назад

    I have pretty fond memories of playing this on my PS2 way back in the day. I was a massive Half Life fan so I thought it was pretty fun. I never touched the 2nd one, and I kind of just messed around with the 3rd one for a few hours and dropped the series forever.

  • @jakebrill5990
    @jakebrill5990 Год назад

    I saw a clip of the third one and was like " I DO know someone who played Red Faction" lol

  • @thebossbaby7402
    @thebossbaby7402 Год назад +3

    if you like dead fps franchises you could do a video on resistance

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd Год назад +2

    wait a second... do *Volition* have *anything* to do with the *Just Cause* games?? (like you mention in this vid description?)
    Wasn't aware... O_o

  • @MonadProxy01
    @MonadProxy01 Год назад +2

    someone buy this man a hat

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd Год назад +1

    2:36 -- source of this short clip, please? :O

  • @sirrealgaming6913
    @sirrealgaming6913 Год назад

    heh yea...crazy...that marstribalizm
    **eyes nervously dart to twitter**

  • @ZhuDaoLong
    @ZhuDaoLong Год назад

    10:33 Good to see another Garth Marenghi appreciater

  • @antivision99
    @antivision99 Год назад

    love the work brother

  • @melocomanTV
    @melocomanTV Год назад

    Your take on oddworld would make a good video

  • @ShatteredGlass916
    @ShatteredGlass916 Год назад +1

    Can you do the rest of God of War series? For the hadheld + Ascension alongside with the 2 soft rebooted ones

  • @superbro6413
    @superbro6413 Год назад

    Heresay or not, the anecdote that Red Faction Guerillas' physics engine was so complex that the devs needed to hire an architect to construct stable buildings for them--
    I just find that neat, you know?
    Cheerd

  • @Zubatticus
    @Zubatticus Год назад

    I didn't even know Red Faction had 3 games, let alone was an FPS. I only knew about Guerilla.

  • @MegaJackolope
    @MegaJackolope Год назад

    Hey... wait a second. THIS ISNT A TRILOGY REVIEW!

  • @zaphero5518
    @zaphero5518 Год назад

    Ah I beat Red Faction 1 for the first time two weeks ago (and a week ago). Right off the bat I used a mod to make nearly the whole game destructible and one to rebalance (AllGeo and Reaper Balance 2.0) and I just loved it! I think it was intended to always work that way based on how much I could flank with it. I loved it enough to immediately play through it again on hard!
    The whole game felt good and it felt very rewarding to use terrain destruction to carefully open up sniper angles at tough parts and to have to worry about enemies with explosives of their own tearing apart the environment. The risk of getting stuck in holes you can't escape felt fair enough with all the autosaves and quicksaving.
    Even tricking the AI to get like stuck in holes felt good since they could still shoot me if I wasn't careful and it cost explosive resources I could use elsewhere to do it.
    Definitely had to keep back up saves though, I found autosaves to break at a couple points.

  • @davidsolomie162
    @davidsolomie162 Год назад

    35:51 Alright, well now that I heard the Metro 2033 theme in the background you gotta review the series. Please.

  • @thelaughingrouge
    @thelaughingrouge Год назад

    These games are so ham fisted that you could serve it for Easter dinner. But gorilla is pretty great.

  • @Killer66hitman
    @Killer66hitman Год назад

    Darkplace Subtext is for cowards joke got me good - love it

  • @BenOlsberg1995
    @BenOlsberg1995 Год назад +1

    Damn man, haven't given Red Faction much thought, if any, since I came across the Classic Game Room reviews for 1 and 2 back when I was still in middle school. I genuinely appreciate your willingness to take a look at more obscure works of the video game medium. Like shit dude, who else in 2023 is taking time to make a dedicated review of the Red Faction series? You cover a pretty broad range of genres and always have worthwhile commentary to provide on all of them, and I'm here for it. Really glad I stumbled across your content a couple years back.

  • @jerandcor
    @jerandcor Год назад

    "Mildly harass the NPCs"
    >Puts bullet in between NPC's eyes
    ":)"

  • @AverageJ03Gaming
    @AverageJ03Gaming Год назад

    if you like the magnetic gun in Armageddon I'll be seeing you in the just cause video

  • @sleepysroom
    @sleepysroom Год назад

    all i remember from this game was blowing holes and tunnels in walls with my buddy

  • @kaigen999
    @kaigen999 Год назад

    Red Faction 1,2 and Guerilla can be bought and played on PS3,4,or5. Red Faction Armageddon can be bought and played on Xbox one or series x|s via backwards compatibility

  • @JohnBowethejoker
    @JohnBowethejoker Год назад

    My mortgage is going quite well thank you

  • @spongebobfan78
    @spongebobfan78 Год назад +3

    For those who want to play Red Faction 1, there's a mod that puts the stuff back from the PS2 version. There's also a mod that recreates the N-Gage version.
    Also, you can buy Red Faction 1 and 2 on PS4, which are the PS2 versions emulated and with trophies.

  • @Negameleon
    @Negameleon Год назад

    What game is that at 35:53 ? Looks like FFXV but I don't recall any scene like that.

    • @armortekel
      @armortekel Год назад +1

      It is ffxv but a demo that isn't apart of the main game

  • @WILDDITTO
    @WILDDITTO Год назад

    As a Canadian from Ontario I greatly appreciate comments about Ontario.

  • @dylhas1
    @dylhas1 Год назад

    Armageddon putting the environment in caves was just a bafflingly bad decision

  • @tiagocosmos
    @tiagocosmos Год назад +1

    i'm 100% uninterested in the FPS genre outside of Doom or a couple outliers (Vomitoreum, Cultic) but i'll take a new KBash upload on whatever game it is. Unless he does a video on sports games than i'm out lol.

  • @cearlach32
    @cearlach32 Год назад

    can you do a video on the overlord series since it looks like its dead

  • @Invaderbob7
    @Invaderbob7 Год назад

    The villain's voice actor sounds so familiar

  • @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
    @gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Год назад +1

    RF1 is how elon musk treats workers if he could get away with it.

  • @mariaconcepcionrodriguezhe2850

    Makes sense that a game with that funny fist on the cover should be about destructible enviroments

  • @moogleboy
    @moogleboy Год назад

    Alias is up there with Fayt Leingod for on the nose names.

  • @kkmasters
    @kkmasters Год назад

    another banger 10/10

  • @Chillgamesh
    @Chillgamesh Год назад

    I can't take bayobash out of my head

  • @melon3109
    @melon3109 Год назад +3

    I have discovered that Red Faction is NOT a real time strategy game with destructible environments.
    I somehow merged Red Faction and... Red Alert? In my mind for like a decade now.
    Go figure.

  • @vimbert
    @vimbert Год назад

    Ah yes, good ol' K "but the pedigree!" Bash

  • @evanpinto
    @evanpinto Год назад

    Funny enough if you look at the floor or ceiling during stealth in the original, You are undetectable for some reason. Makes them easy to get thru

    • @Darek_B52
      @Darek_B52 Год назад

      Keep your head down I guess

  • @DragonSlicer
    @DragonSlicer Год назад

    Killdozer would love this game

  • @TheGreatDanish
    @TheGreatDanish Год назад

    God, I love Red Faction. Its such a jank ass fucking franchise.