A couple of tips mate.... Wrap the heat output in tinfoil to reduce heat loss, and also the cold air intake needs to be inside as the heater is having to heat the air up from sub zero, it's much more optimal to ingest warmer air. Rest of it is good.
I’ve literally just put one in my 12 by 10 ft greenhouse for the winter, grow flowers ect ( not a cannabis stash) a 5 kw, it’s fabulous, on the lowest of 6 settings it keeps around 25 deg, will only use in coldest weather ( Frosts ect) but knowing it’s there is grand, got 12 v car battery on trickle charger to power start up, no problems, great tool, absolutely love it👍🥳🥳
"not a cannabis stash"🤫!!! Are you still in Veg? Nice one matey😉... What Strain are you growing? Durban Poison? Lemon Haze? Afgan Kush? Yeahhhh, I bet you're an Afgan kinda fella with a name like Stephen. Niiiiice! Let me know when she's cropped and dried. I'm first in line. Don't worry, son.., I ain't seen ya! I neva heard a ya! I don't know ya! 🙈🙉🙊
@@stephensmythe1432 Thanks. Lot mate! I’ve been led to believe it needs to be a lithium, as lead doesn’t bode well with a very low drainage rate like what a diesel heater does after initial start up? You had your set up running a while?
@@samdub Been running a 5 kw diesel heater for for the last 4 months or so, grow chrysanthemums ect in my insulated greenhouse, I really like them, mainly run it on the lowest setting, keeps even the harshest frosts away, got an all in one kit,ready to run, no setting up apart from the power leads, they really can Chuck some heat out on the higher settings , excellent bits of kits👍
I've done similar in an emergency when my central furnace fan burned out. Worked great, not as warm as the furnace but kept indoor temp at around 65f with outdoor at 32f. 1800 square foot 2 level house.
Damn that’s not as bad as I was thinking. Just recently picked one up and never really got to do much with it as far as to cold weather least where I am. I’m still running the air in December. A very rarely use the heat. At most just bump it on here and there and is about all. But each year I do get a cold snap that may last a few solid days of real cold 2-3 times for least here. An figured it wouldn’t bump out enough heat. That maybe I could use it for a heat maintainer. Or not running the electric heat as much I’m a little more sq.ft than that. But this place holds no cold or heat with a damn. An my electric bill is insane in the really hot months. An when it’s really cold them few days here and there there. That electric heat is a killer an it brings havoc on my electric bill. But if you managed to get that out of that. I normally like it cool anyway I may be able to pull off damn near running just that. Least after the big heat warms everything. That seems like it may actually hold it. But more so I picked it up for emergency heat to go with the solar generator. Due to my luck in general really isn’t worth a F. A that seemed like a cheap but decent insurance plan.
Nice job i have a similar setup as my emergency heating, mine uses about half a gallon in 12 hours. I made a duel chamber box with the heater in on side and the fuel tank in the other. I hope this setup will make sure the fuel in the tank/fuel line does not gel if it gets to cold. Slapped an air filter on the intake to stop dirt/dust/waspd etc and heat wrapped the pipes. I power it with mains and a battery so if power fails it will stay running, then again i am paranoid nowadays.
Interesting setup, the forced air intake will probably use some extra fuel but is probably a good idea as you'll have very dry heat, removing any moisture problems.
Put holes in the Amazon box in case it over heats . Also if it rains out side the air intake will get wet so need to put that in a box with holes in but put bug mesh in side where the holes are . Put a extension on the exhaust so it from the house and slip it down wards and make sure the silencer is the right way there should be a hole at the bottom for the build up of water that end faces down . But it looks a great job . Well done 👍
Hello! Good video, I have the same for my apartment, but with an air intake from another room, so the circulation goes around the master bedroom and the bedroom across. For the noise, I've used a 100 mm insulated flexible aluminium pipe for the suction and impulsion, the length about 2 meters each side, it will dampen the noise a lot. But you'll have to change the turbine settings to its maximum at 5500rpm, thus the extra pipe bending will reduce the air flow. And it doesn't affect the burn control.
These will be banned before long in the UK with the excuse that they are dangerous, they will make up some excuse!! We have one to warm part of our house and it's great especially when we have a power cut as we have a large 12 volt battery and a charger topping the battery up 24/7. great bit of kit but you must fit them properly especially the exhaust.
I am doing exactly the same project. I can't drill walls so I want to make a window opening and have both pipes and cables going that way. At the minute in the UK the electricity price is 34p per KWh comparing to about 18p for diesel heater. If you can get red diesel or heating oil it would be down to about 10p per KWh.
I'm sat in a room right now, with my other (smaller) diesel running...it'll probably run all day and costs around 12-20p per hour...splendid, good luck with yours
Well done 👍 I'm doing similar as a back up on case of power cuts, obv using a battery and solar from my solar powered shed, gas is still cheaper than diesel but i built it to keep a disabled pensioner warm just in case. Good idea and vid 👍
Hooking up to solar and batter is my next project...I run another in my conservatory where I work and that has a bigger box, so I can fit the battery in.
@@MarkIAnson i have a few on the go, garage, workshop camper ect, when i fit a replacement i usually get to keep the old one and TBH 8 out of 10 times they work fine after a service, i have a webasto, a mikuni and 2 ebers all free, i also have a few water heater ones from cars but they are harder to fix as they usually need canbus coms with the vehicle ECU to fire up, doable but costs time and money, I'm a freebie kinda guy 😁 Be interested to see your setups in future vids 👍
Best to run it off a 12v leisure battery and charger so when the rolling power cuts come it will run all night without mains also I would put holes in the box outside for the air going into the house that is heated
I like it, I would change the hose going in the house to a galvanized pipe and cut to size, the shorter the better. Don't forget to insulate around the pipe,. Now your power supply is big enough to charge a few batteries add a 1500w inverter or bigger to it to run your fridge and freezer in a power failure
I hate to disagree with so many people commending you for such a great install. Iust however ask. Where is the air getting into the box? Here i agree that you should draw it from inside the house. Not sure if you have any particular vent for it but regardless the biggest concern to me is that it may bring in the exhaust fumes. Secondly your exhaust pipe is not only likely to be feeding the box fumes but also dangerously close to your fuel tank. Wich as a thiird note seems to be halfhazardly upside down and leaking right beside that short exhaust...hope someone else has mentioned these things or that you are still alive to read this.
I am seriously considering this Mark. I like the neat and professional job you have done. I have subscribed on this basis. I spent £436 for a strip down and service on my gas boiler. Then wating £10 a day heating our home. That £10 figure is not running the gas central heating 24/7. Just around 7 to 8 hours a day. And the house is still sodding cold in between times! Which brand of heater did you go for?
@@MarkIAnson Thanks Mark. The neat and professional job you have done on the installation at the front of the house has convinced us to give one a try.
Great video. How have you taken the front control panel off. Is it some sort of connection block in side the unit itself????. Have you made a video of how you have wired it. Thank you.
@@MarkIAnson Thank you Mark That would be brilliant. Your setup looks great and your videos are very Educational. For people like myself. Thank you again.
Just a thought, and obviously it's not a 'fit' for everyone, most people won't fancy, or be able to drill a hole through a wall, BUT don't forget many people already have one,,,the 'exhaust/vent' for the clothes dryer. Yes I know, it's winter and the time of year when the dryer is used, but I wonder how many people have ditched the dryer re the cost of electricity
I did a similar setup for emergency but find we use it evenings and weekends as it's much warmer than electric heat. We have nights that drop to -15C here in Newfoundland and I keep our 1400 sq warm with just this running. THe local gas station sells furnace oil so it's much cheaper that buying diesel.
Same here, the electric heater doesn't seem to regulate as well as our diesel heater - furnace oil, I suspect is similar stuff,,,we call it heating oil and the diesel heaters seem happy running on it.
Few improvements, cold air feed should be from within the house, to be more efficient and then the warm air feed has to much length, you want that either closer to the wall or have extra insulation, your going to loose loads of heat because of them 2 factors, also maybe look at different fuel types, such as 5050 veg mix or used pile etc, but there's definitely room for improvement
The air intake tube which is outside the box is providing air to feed the flame. The air intake of your all-in-one has a fan to pull air across the heated metal fins, and into your house. Be very careful that the intake isn't carrying exhaust fumes into the home.
If I was you I would turn that air filter the other way around to prevent any water getting in it and also if its a paper lined one ile mine was replaced it with a complete foil one or metal as the others are crap and will eventually fall to bits if outside like you have it.
For more efficiency, add an air intake coming from the house so you're not starting with cold outside air. Then do the safety thing of running an actual exhaust pipe round the corner so it's well away from the heater's air intake and you don't risk getting carbon monoxide (CO).
Some models offer two air intakes. One is for combustion and the other is for air to be heated and run into the house. If you pull in house air, which might be 60 degrees, the heated air going back to the house will be 60 degrees warmer than if you used outside air with a temperature of 0°. Try measuring the temperature of a hair dryer inside a 70 degree house, then take it outside and let it suck in zero degree air and remeasure.
Thats dumb. air intake should always be from outside not from the place you are heating..... both exhaust and intake are meant to be outside .. you talk utter bull.. Imagine having the intake inside my camper van... soon all the oxygen be depleted for the heater intake..
@@BillSikes. you are talking about the combustion air intake, the guys comment is talking about fan air intake, warmer staring point more efficient as the engine and fan are working less
@@danwray8651 What the hell are you on about, there is only one air intake, and it's complete bullshit thinking by having it inside is gonna make the heater anymore efficient 🙄
I’ve been curious about these and the fuel supply. Is it gravity feed or is there a pump? I ask because I want to know if you could add larger fuel can to it. A Jerry can with a fuel line pulling fuel from the bottom of an upright fuel can. Upright to prevent leaking. If done right you could have a longer burn time with easy replacement of fuel cans.
Thank you! I’m considering what you’re doing. I like the metal case. Even though I live far out from town in the US. I’d like to lock mine up. Excellent work.
Great idea but do you think it would help if your air intake was inside the house would help heater to heat up the air as it would already be warmer than the outside air, just a thought
@@MarkIAnson Put on led a headlight and go outside at night it looks like it's snowing in the middle of summer with all the ash and other whatever it is in the air.
Mark, great videos, I'm working through all of them! I didn't get a battery in my identical remote, any idea what the spec is? It looks like a small AAA?
Ive done similar thing at home. Maybe consider hooking up to a battery, due to the power cuts currently being advertised by our wonderful great leaders!?!.
@@ChrisandNancyTravel in the video, he says at the front - but nothing comes out of the box, so it exhausts into the heater air intake and into the house...
Yes, red diesel is totally legal to use for home heating and available from some BP garages at the pump. I've got a sponge plug that's cut to shape for the draft.
Mark, aquestion: There are a number of videos in YT warning us about loss of 12v power to the Heater and burnt out circuit boards! I'm wondering obout running the 12v power supply through a battery and then onto the heater? That way if the mains fails, the battery will pickup the load automatically? And will last days while the mains is restored? Any thoughts? S
I had a smell for around two days which I guessed was paint or plastic burning off, then I realised my exhaust was too close to my ambient inlet so I moved them apart. The detector didn't go off either.
@@MarkIAnson thanks yh mine still smells bit musty ish hard to describe lol hopefully goes away soon I've made a back up generator connection to my house too just incase of these supposed blackouts actually happen.
There are some major problems with your set up my friend. The small black air intake is for combustion only! You need to vent your green box to allow air in so it will blow into the house without sucking up the exhaust. I didn’t see any exhaust pipe anywhere exiting your green box? It should be away from the door or windows. You could run the exhaust to stand pipe for a gutter without too much trouble. That will get the diesel exhaust up and away from any openings especially when the air is cold and damp. The idea of having the heater unit outside is good but,,,,,you will suck in all of the exhaust easily. Lastly is a carbon monoxide detector. This stuff is no joke and you can’t smell it but you will make yourself and anyone in the house very sick or worse if the heater doesn’t run properly. I hope you don’t mind my comments and thanks for sharing your video. Cheers
Hi the unit needs to be inside because it generates heat….. you’re losing a lot of heat …I suggest putting it inside in the box you made and an exhaust out of the wall ….this will increase the heat in your home ….preferably without the box… increasing more the heat
It's not clear from the video where the air intake is. I can see the filter for the combustion air intake, which is fine, but i can not see the exhaust or the air to be heated intake.
If that's running and you have a power cut. Then say good bye to the heaters pcb. You should've used a battery and a battery charger for the power source.
@@ArdEgberts plus exhaust fumes can find their way into the air intake, which can be lethal. They are designed so that the exhaust and intake portals are in separate enclosures...ie.. rooms/ areas
@@2904mossie I understand what you mean now - this is the run up video...once completed, the exhaust is on a separate side with the intake having an extended pipe so it's far enough away.
@@MarkIAnson these are more efficient if the air is taken from the interior and heated, then re circulated back inside. I would run air intake from the inside, as its intended use. in a van the unit would be inside the vehicle, the only air intake from outside would be the combustion intake and then the exhausted combustion waste gasses expelled outside. a lot of the energy your using is wasted, heating the cold air from outside the house, in winter this could be very cold, and would lower the potential heat entering your home considerably. I would consider insulating the intake and output flexy hoses as well. to retain maximum heat.
Dont let it run on full all time. And if it goes much on low temp to Long them ofen clugs up. So exos shud goes down hill all the way And not use muflet if not nessesery. Cos not much to clogh them up in exsos
Any links please to a decent 240v to 12v converter please anyone ???? . Just fitted heater to my garage and what a difference. Got it running off a car battery at moment
How well do you trust the cheap Chinese manufacturer to ensure that the combustion products (Carbon Monoxide) don't mix with the hot output air, and get blown into your house?
There's four input/outputs to these - the intake for the burn chamber, the intake for the ambient air chamber, then exhaust for each - the chambers are separate and spaced well apart in operation. Plus add a carbon monoxide detector in the clean hot air output.
@@trevuser2007 This exact form design has been used in RVs and campers since the 1960's. The only reason they exist now so cheaply is because the German patent has expired. They are built exactly like those original heaters, but may not last as long. People are reporting they have used them at least 2 years without issues. There are some issues however, but solutions are easily found here on RUclips.
@@MarkIAnson yeah you're right I didn't think about that you can get some off-road diesel much cheaper for these heaters. I still think they're great for a backup heating source or camping. Propane is not only expensive it's just not convenient. They don't conveniently price it either you basically got to knock on doors and ask them how much they want. Then there's the big propane bottles to carry around. I thought about getting one of these for a long time but then it comes down to do I take a chance on a chinese-made one and hope it's okay or do I spend the big money to get one made in Germany that's high quality. You can buy these things for like $100 the Chinese ones. Maybe they're okay.
@@tolmie1141 I'm running three Chinese heaters and have done one of them for 3 years - the "cheapness" is in the exhaust, the silencer, some of the brackets are a bit flimsy, the pipe clips...just change those bits out and you're good to go.
in regards to small inexpensive "diesel air heating" units, i have question, i simple hho system could make the system far far more cleaner, smaller, produce more heat, and use the same idea/technology we already have and be less expensive then a diesel system. simply replace the glow plug with a spark system, and install an a simple hho plate generator to produce the hho from electrical power. seems to me hho would be great it this type of heater. fuel on demand, ideas? thanks. nice setup u got!
A couple of tips mate.... Wrap the heat output in tinfoil to reduce heat loss, and also the cold air intake needs to be inside as the heater is having to heat the air up from sub zero, it's much more optimal to ingest warmer air. Rest of it is good.
No, the air intake should be outside. Fresh air is important rather than recirculated air for reasons of condensation and pressure ....
Fresh air will contain more moisture than the air inside the house. The pressure does not change, it is blowing as much in as it is sucking out.
Brilliant video, explains everything clearly. I think I’ve watched this video about 9-10 times now
I’ve literally just put one in my 12 by 10 ft greenhouse for the winter, grow flowers ect ( not a cannabis stash) a 5 kw, it’s fabulous, on the lowest of 6 settings it keeps around 25 deg, will only use in coldest weather ( Frosts ect) but knowing it’s there is grand, got 12 v car battery on trickle charger to power start up, no problems, great tool, absolutely love it👍🥳🥳
"not a cannabis stash"🤫!!!
Are you still in Veg? Nice one matey😉... What Strain are you growing? Durban Poison? Lemon Haze? Afgan Kush? Yeahhhh, I bet you're an Afgan kinda fella with a name like Stephen. Niiiiice!
Let me know when she's cropped and dried.
I'm first in line.
Don't worry, son.., I ain't seen ya! I neva heard a ya! I don't know ya! 🙈🙉🙊
What battery are you using if you don't mind, lead acid or lithium? And what size? Thanks!
@@samdub greetings, just a very cheap 12 volt lead acid car battery, bought new £45 on offer from motor spares place, works just fine👍
@@stephensmythe1432 Thanks. Lot mate! I’ve been led to believe it needs to be a lithium, as lead doesn’t bode well with a very low drainage rate like what a diesel heater does after initial start up? You had your set up running a while?
@@samdub Been running a 5 kw diesel heater for for the last 4 months or so, grow chrysanthemums ect in my insulated greenhouse, I really like them, mainly run it on the lowest setting, keeps even the harshest frosts away, got an all in one kit,ready to run, no setting up apart from the power leads, they really can Chuck some heat out on the higher settings , excellent bits of kits👍
I've done similar in an emergency when my central furnace fan burned out. Worked great, not as warm as the furnace but kept indoor temp at around 65f with outdoor at 32f. 1800 square foot 2 level house.
Damn that’s not as bad as I was thinking. Just recently picked one up and never really got to do much with it as far as to cold weather least where I am. I’m still running the air in December. A very rarely use the heat.
At most just bump it on here and there and is about all.
But each year I do get a cold snap that may last a few solid days of real cold 2-3 times for least here. An figured it wouldn’t bump out enough heat. That maybe I could use it for a heat maintainer.
Or not running the electric heat as much I’m a little more sq.ft than that. But this place holds no cold or heat with a damn. An my electric bill is insane in the really hot months. An when it’s really cold them few days here and there there.
That electric heat is a killer an it brings havoc on my electric bill. But if you managed to get that out of that. I normally like it cool anyway I may be able to pull off damn near running just that. Least after the big heat warms everything. That seems like it may actually hold it.
But more so I picked it up for emergency heat to go with the solar generator. Due to my luck in general really isn’t worth a F. A that seemed like a cheap but decent insurance plan.
Nice job i have a similar setup as my emergency heating, mine uses about half a gallon in 12 hours. I made a duel chamber box with the heater in on side and the fuel tank in the other. I hope this setup will make sure the fuel in the tank/fuel line does not gel if it gets to cold. Slapped an air filter on the intake to stop dirt/dust/waspd etc and heat wrapped the pipes. I power it with mains and a battery so if power fails it will stay running, then again i am paranoid nowadays.
Mains and power - share your set up, I'm interested and well done.
I have a 700 sf condo and bought an 8Kw model. Works great and costs far less than heating with electricity.
Thanks for sharing
Interesting setup, the forced air intake will probably use some extra fuel but is probably a good idea as you'll have very dry heat, removing any moisture problems.
Put holes in the Amazon box in case it over heats . Also if it rains out side the air intake will get wet so need to put that in a box with holes in but put bug mesh in side where the holes are . Put a extension on the exhaust so it from the house and slip it down wards and make sure the silencer is the right way there should be a hole at the bottom for the build up of water that end faces down . But it looks a great job . Well done 👍
Good tips, thank you
Hello! Good video, I have the same for my apartment, but with an air intake from another room, so the circulation goes around the master bedroom and the bedroom across. For the noise, I've used a 100 mm insulated flexible aluminium pipe for the suction and impulsion, the length about 2 meters each side, it will dampen the noise a lot. But you'll have to change the turbine settings to its maximum at 5500rpm, thus the extra pipe bending will reduce the air flow. And it doesn't affect the burn control.
Spot on
This should be on the news! Honestly we could get rid of the extortionate energy companies- and help people to outsmart the tyrants!
you still need to buy diesel
Those that know,know so keep it were it is & that way diesel won't go the same way as gas & electricity 👍
Red diesel so it's cheaper to run...totally legal for home heating.
These will be banned before long in the UK with the excuse that they are dangerous, they will make up some excuse!!
We have one to warm part of our house and it's great especially when we have a power cut as we have a large 12 volt battery and a charger topping the battery up 24/7. great bit of kit but you must fit them properly especially the exhaust.
Heating oil works great (Kerosene) and we drop a bit of oil into each fill to keep the pump happy but we have seen that it isn't really needed.
I am doing exactly the same project. I can't drill walls so I want to make a window opening and have both pipes and cables going that way. At the minute in the UK the electricity price is 34p per KWh comparing to about 18p for diesel heater. If you can get red diesel or heating oil it would be down to about 10p per KWh.
I'm sat in a room right now, with my other (smaller) diesel running...it'll probably run all day and costs around 12-20p per hour...splendid, good luck with yours
Heating with electricity is ridiculous when natural gas is 7p KWh
Well done 👍
I'm doing similar as a back up on case of power cuts, obv using a battery and solar from my solar powered shed, gas is still cheaper than diesel but i built it to keep a disabled pensioner warm just in case.
Good idea and vid 👍
Hooking up to solar and batter is my next project...I run another in my conservatory where I work and that has a bigger box, so I can fit the battery in.
@@MarkIAnson i have a few on the go, garage, workshop camper ect, when i fit a replacement i usually get to keep the old one and TBH 8 out of 10 times they work fine after a service, i have a webasto, a mikuni and 2 ebers all free, i also have a few water heater ones from cars but they are harder to fix as they usually need canbus coms with the vehicle ECU to fire up, doable but costs time and money, I'm a freebie kinda guy 😁
Be interested to see your setups in future vids 👍
Great idea as the central heating will be no use in a power cut 👍
Best to run it off a 12v leisure battery and charger so when the rolling power cuts come it will run all night without mains also I would put holes in the box outside for the air going into the house that is heated
My mate has just fitted one to his boat which he lives on. It’s really good but doesn’t make all that noise you just hear fuel pump ticking. 🤷🏻♂️
great video where did you get the metal box mark?
Might be a idea to cover the exposed 240v terminals. Other than that very cool 👍🏻
I've done that now, thanks
I like it, I would change the hose going in the house to a galvanized pipe and cut to size, the shorter the better. Don't forget to insulate around the pipe,. Now your power supply is big enough to charge a few batteries add a 1500w inverter or bigger to it to run your fridge and freezer in a power failure
Thanks for the tips!
please can you show us how?
@@billcarson9565 look it up on RUclips, you will find your answers
I hate to disagree with so many people commending you for such a great install.
Iust however ask. Where is the air getting into the box? Here i agree that you should draw it from inside the house. Not sure if you have any particular vent for it but regardless the biggest concern to me is that it may bring in the exhaust fumes. Secondly your exhaust pipe is not only likely to be feeding the box fumes but also dangerously close to your fuel tank. Wich as a thiird note seems to be halfhazardly upside down and leaking right beside that short exhaust...hope someone else has mentioned these things or that you are still alive to read this.
I am seriously considering this Mark. I like the neat and professional job you have done. I have subscribed on this basis. I spent £436 for a strip down and service on my gas boiler. Then wating £10 a day heating our home. That £10 figure is not running the gas central heating 24/7. Just around 7 to 8 hours a day. And the house is still sodding cold in between times! Which brand of heater did you go for?
I've got two...this one is a Hcalory and I've also got a Vevor...
@@MarkIAnson Thanks Mark. The neat and professional job you have done on the installation at the front of the house has convinced us to give one a try.
Great video. How have you taken the front control panel off. Is it some sort of connection block in side the unit itself????. Have you made a video of how you have wired it. Thank you.
It's just a connection inside the box that I've taken through the wall - I'll do another video of it.
@@MarkIAnson Thank you Mark That would be brilliant. Your setup looks great and your videos are very Educational. For people like myself. Thank you again.
Just a thought, and obviously it's not a 'fit' for everyone, most people won't fancy, or be able to drill a hole through a wall, BUT don't forget many people already have one,,,the 'exhaust/vent' for the clothes dryer.
Yes I know, it's winter and the time of year when the dryer is used, but I wonder how many people have ditched the dryer re the cost of electricity
I did a similar setup for emergency but find we use it evenings and weekends as it's much warmer than electric heat. We have nights that drop to -15C here in Newfoundland and I keep our 1400 sq warm with just this running. THe local gas station sells furnace oil so it's much cheaper that buying diesel.
Same here, the electric heater doesn't seem to regulate as well as our diesel heater - furnace oil, I suspect is similar stuff,,,we call it heating oil and the diesel heaters seem happy running on it.
Now make your own black diesel and another bill gets wiped out. :)
Make sure to insulate the outgoing heater tube , I used foil bubble wrap.
Great idea - I'll be doing that.
Few improvements, cold air feed should be from within the house, to be more efficient and then the warm air feed has to much length, you want that either closer to the wall or have extra insulation, your going to loose loads of heat because of them 2 factors, also maybe look at different fuel types, such as 5050 veg mix or used pile etc, but there's definitely room for improvement
Will do, thank you
The air intake tube which is outside the box is providing air to feed the flame. The air intake of your all-in-one has a fan to pull air across the heated metal fins, and into your house. Be very careful that the intake isn't carrying exhaust fumes into the home.
Veg oil now dearer than diesel
@@Amigatech I've done another video of the set up finished.
@@jcreswick I'll stick to red diesel
If I was you I would turn that air filter the other way around to prevent any water getting in it and also if its a paper lined one ile mine was replaced it with a complete foil one or metal as the others are crap and will eventually fall to bits if outside like you have it.
Where did you get the box from mate? Exactly what im looking for
For more efficiency, add an air intake coming from the house so you're not starting with cold outside air.
Then do the safety thing of running an actual exhaust pipe round the corner so it's well away from the heater's air intake and you don't risk getting carbon monoxide (CO).
That makes about as much difference as farting !
And besides, cold air is better for combustion, it's why modern diesel engines have intercoolers
Some models offer two air intakes. One is for combustion and the other is for air to be heated and run into the house. If you pull in house air, which might be 60 degrees, the heated air going back to the house will be 60 degrees warmer than if you used outside air with a temperature of 0°. Try measuring the temperature of a hair dryer inside a 70 degree house, then take it outside and let it suck in zero degree air and remeasure.
Thats dumb. air intake should always be from outside not from the place you are heating..... both exhaust and intake are meant to be outside .. you talk utter bull.. Imagine having the intake inside my camper van... soon all the oxygen be depleted for the heater intake..
@@BillSikes. you are talking about the combustion air intake, the guys comment is talking about fan air intake, warmer staring point more efficient as the engine and fan are working less
@@danwray8651
What the hell are you on about, there is only one air intake, and it's complete bullshit thinking by having it inside is gonna make the heater anymore efficient 🙄
Great setup..Can I ask where did you get the metal box from ?
From eBay, it's branded as an Amazon parcel delivery box. Has a sloping, overlap top so stays dry.
You could try a truck tool box also
What fuel are u using and how many hours a day it on what does it cost per week and how many rooms it heat?
If you ever have kids in the house, make SURE those exposed 240v screw terminals on the PSU are not accessible to little hands.(ie: stick it in a box)
They'll be box mounted - this was just the test run
nice little set up. watch out for the all the safety heroes to post their pontifications.
Thank you, I'm running three of these in various places...you can never do enough to be totally safe but, you try your best.
I’ve been curious about these and the fuel supply. Is it gravity feed or is there a pump? I ask because I want to know if you could add larger fuel can to it. A Jerry can with a fuel line pulling fuel from the bottom of an upright fuel can. Upright to prevent leaking. If done right you could have a longer burn time with easy replacement of fuel cans.
On my other one, at the back of the house I'm using a HGV cab tank which is 40litres. They are pump fed.
Thank you! I’m considering what you’re doing. I like the metal case. Even though I live far out from town in the US. I’d like to lock mine up. Excellent work.
if you want to make it blackout proof, put the power draw from a car battery and put a small charger on the battery from 230V
Yes, an alternative
Absolutely brilliant fella where did you buy it from?? And how much fuel does it use a hour ?? Well done buddy cheers
from eBay and the box is branded as an Amazon Parcel Delivery box
Hi mate, thanks for the video, one question though, do you have holes drilled in your green box to allow the cold air entry to the heater unit?
It's finished now, on another video...there's feed pipes attached through the box.
Where did you get box from? Thinking about doing this aswell and can't seem to find one. Thanks and great video 😊
Search eBay for an Amazon Parcel Delivery Box
@@MarkIAnson cheers dude
very neat job well done where did you get the box from
It's branded as an Amazon Parcel delivery box on eBay
Do you have a link for the diesel heater and gren box?
Would be worth having a battery as well as step down in case of powercut as heater would melt if suddenly shut off
Good advice - I've just been on a course yesterday to learn how to wire it up to solar and a battery.
@@MarkIAnson Also float trickel charger on the battery connected permanently but if no mains at all then guess solar .
Using the air intake with another duckt will recirculat & Get hotter & hotter & much quicker where the thermostat will work correctly.
Agreed, it will
Great idea but do you think it would help if your air intake was inside the house would help heater to heat up the air as it would already be warmer than the outside air, just a thought
You can yes. I've chosen this way because of fresh, hot air entering the house but, either way has its advantages.
@@MarkIAnson Put on led a headlight and go outside at night it looks like it's snowing in the middle of summer with all the ash and other whatever it is in the air.
Do it smell in the hot air somethig strage?
Mark, great videos, I'm working through all of them! I didn't get a battery in my identical remote, any idea what the spec is? It looks like a small AAA?
Thank you - must admit, I don't know, I've not hooked the remote up as the control is just sat on the wall in the room.
Ive done similar thing at home. Maybe consider hooking up to a battery, due to the power cuts currently being advertised by our wonderful great leaders!?!.
Yup, good advice, that's the next step
That looks great. You have a new subscriber. What make heater is this please?
This one is a Hcalory
Nice one, I'm thinking of doing similar, where did you get the outside steel enclosure from?
It's branded as an Amazon Parcel delivery box on eBay
I didn't see one the same on Amazon or eBay but saw a truck tool box that might work. It costs almost as much as the heater though.
great video mark, can you do an update at some point with running costs
It's around 20p an hour at full blast then slows down to 12p an hour when the room is being maintained.
It appears that the black riser to the left of the green box is called the "air intake"? Perhaps what was meant was the combustion EXHAUST discharge?
That is the air intake
Thanks. Where does it exhaust?
@@ChrisandNancyTravel in the video, he says at the front - but nothing comes out of the box, so it exhausts into the heater air intake and into the house...
Same side as the outlet.
Where did you get the housing unit from? Good work mate
from eBay branded as an Amazon Parcel Delivery box
Do you use red diesel? And also can you feel any draft coming through the pipe when heater not on?
Yes, red diesel is totally legal to use for home heating and available from some BP garages at the pump. I've got a sponge plug that's cut to shape for the draft.
Where did you get that box. I’ve just bought a heater and need a nice box like that
It's branded as an Amazon Parcel delivery box on eBay
Air intake is facing the wrong way up mate, needs to be in a downward position to stock it sucking water in to the heater
Good spot, I'll turn that around.
@@MarkIAnson or keep it that way and use it as a power shower😄
What happens when it runs out of diesel. The one at my work gives out a huge puff of smoke
Mark, aquestion: There are a number of videos in YT warning us about loss of 12v power to the Heater and burnt out circuit boards! I'm wondering obout running the 12v power supply through a battery and then onto the heater? That way if the mains fails, the battery will pickup the load automatically? And will last days while the mains is restored? Any thoughts? S
Yes, that's another way of doing it...I have three and haven't had a power outage so, haven't bothered
What is the running costs?
I’m going to do the. Same for a log cabin. Where is the big green box from ?
It's from eBay branded as an Amazon parcel delivery box.
Great video mark! May I ask where you got your metal box from? Or did you make it yourself? Thanks.
It's branded as an Amazon Parcel delivery box on eBay
I would move your coats cause if they fall infront of that air it could catch fire them heater get to 100 degrees
Good point
Where did you get the green case from?
On eBay described as an Amazon parcel delivery box
Where did you get the green box?
eBay, branded as an Amazon parcel delivery box
Would this run of kerosene used for home heating oil?
Yes.
Where did you get green box and what's its dimensions please.
an Amazon parcel delivery box from eBay
Thanks
Will it warm up the whole house?
Nah, it's just a boost to the GCH
Hard to judge the size of the box from the video but is it the 420mm wide one or is it the 604mm wide one please?
Get the one that fits the heater you buy
Have you got a link for the mains to 12v power supply you used here?
Just search eBay - for a 20a PC Power Supply
I've done the same do you find yours has a funny smell like hot metal ? I've got carbon monoxide tester so it's not fumes
I had a smell for around two days which I guessed was paint or plastic burning off, then I realised my exhaust was too close to my ambient inlet so I moved them apart. The detector didn't go off either.
@@MarkIAnson thanks yh mine still smells bit musty ish hard to describe lol hopefully goes away soon I've made a back up generator connection to my house too just incase of these supposed blackouts actually happen.
There are some major problems with your set up my friend. The small black air intake is for combustion only! You need to vent your green box to allow air in so it will blow into the house without sucking up the exhaust. I didn’t see any exhaust pipe anywhere exiting your green box? It should be away from the door or windows. You could run the exhaust to stand pipe for a gutter without too much trouble. That will get the diesel exhaust up and away from any openings especially when the air is cold and damp. The idea of having the heater unit outside is good but,,,,,you will suck in all of the exhaust easily. Lastly is a carbon monoxide detector. This stuff is no joke and you can’t smell it but you will make yourself and anyone in the house very sick or worse if the heater doesn’t run properly. I hope you don’t mind my comments and thanks for sharing your video. Cheers
What power generator would you need to heat a typical 3 bed semi?
Obviously making separate outlets for upstairs??
A regular CH system is around 20w-30w - these are 5w - if your place is small, some run one upstairs and one downstairs...
@@MarkIAnson thanks much appreciated
Where do you get your red diesel?
Some BP stations sell it at the pump
Hi the unit needs to be inside because it generates heat….. you’re losing a lot of heat …I suggest putting it inside in the box you made and an exhaust out of the wall ….this will increase the heat in your home ….preferably without the box… increasing more the heat
You're right
great idea but it depends on the economics - do you know the value of diesel it uses to produce x amount of heat?
I'm using it as a boost alongside the central heating not a replacement so, it's not used on full and not trying to heat the whole house.
Check out mark davies 5kw fuel test...if I remember correctly on the heaters lowest setting it used 2 and a half pints of fuel.
@@Deiseboi my webasto uses approximately 1.5 litres on mid settings over 8 hrs which I think is very economical.
Hi mark quick question how much does it cost to run them per day ?
12p-20p per hour depending on how high you have it
Hi my new diesel heater smells like burning plastic is there anything to fix
There's a bit of burn off to start with. If it persists then check you'r pipes aren't resting on the exhaust.
Where did you obtain the metal box please? Regards mjm.
eBay, branded as an Amazon parcel delivery box
You need more venting in the green box, it will last longer.
Good idea
What amp fuse are you using from the mains plug to transformer please?
I use a 13a in the mains plug, although the heater draws 20a at start up, it drawing from the DC side, not the AC...so, a 13a in the AC is fine.
Nice.
But push it over to celsius
I think it is on celsius
where did you get the box from? thanks
from eBay branded as an Amazon parcel delivery box
Great plan👍 where do you get the metal cabinet/ box? Thanks
On eBay - search for an Amazon Parcel Delivery Box
@@MarkIAnson thank you
ull be needing a battery thats topped up while u have leccy to run it when the leccy goes out ! leave on trickle cahrge.. move all that outside too...
Where is the exhaust outlet ?
In this video the pipe isn't fitted yet, as it was test run...but, it goes on the right hand side and attached to the wall.
how much heat is wasted being outside.....pulling in freezing air, and losing it from the pipe
None
It's not clear from the video where the air intake is. I can see the filter for the combustion air intake, which is fine, but i can not see the exhaust or the air to be heated intake.
The air intake is the black pipe on the left - sticking up
@@MarkIAnson that's the combustion air intake that goes straight to the chamber. I'm talking about the air that's heated.
@@2904mossie You can't see that on the video. The air that's heated is from outside.
@@MarkIAnson yes.... but where is the intake. The unit is in a box but no where for the air to get in.
@@2904mossie The ambient air intake is inside a non airtight box...there's plenty of air getting in
How does the inlet air get into the box ?
I've done another video to show it fully set up
Run the exhaust thru am old steam radiator, why waste 200 degree to the outside!
What brand is the heater?
This one is a Hcalory
If that's running and you have a power cut. Then say good bye to the heaters pcb. You should've used a battery and a battery charger for the power source.
PCB's cost virtually nothing and we haven't had a power cut since 1970.
Would it be cheaper / easier to avoid PCB fry (buying battery etc) or replace PCB if the mains goes off?
@@asilver2889 yes
why didn't you take the air intake form inside the house? now you warming, cold air..
Because the unit is mounted outside...
@@MarkIAnson it cost more fuel now
@@ArdEgberts plus exhaust fumes can find their way into the air intake, which can be lethal. They are designed so that the exhaust and intake portals are in separate enclosures...ie.. rooms/ areas
@@2904mossie I understand what you mean now - this is the run up video...once completed, the exhaust is on a separate side with the intake having an extended pipe so it's far enough away.
@@MarkIAnson these are more efficient if the air is taken from the interior and heated, then re circulated back inside. I would run air intake from the inside, as its intended use. in a van the unit would be inside the vehicle, the only air intake from outside would be the combustion intake and then the exhausted combustion waste gasses expelled outside. a lot of the energy your using is wasted, heating the cold air from outside the house, in winter this could be very cold, and would lower the potential heat entering your home considerably. I would consider insulating the intake and output flexy hoses as well. to retain maximum heat.
that thing draws 40 amp. when it starts it draws like 150
It can't as it's working using a 20a power supply.
Give me a link where you buy the white transformers .220 to 12v.thanks
I haven't got a link for them
@@MarkIAnson haw many money you pay for this?
@@gabydg4246 £150
Dont let it run on full all time. And if it goes much on low temp to Long them ofen clugs up. So exos shud goes down hill all the way And not use muflet if not nessesery. Cos not much to clogh them up in exsos
Thanks, it runs on low the majority of the time.
Any links please to a decent 240v to 12v converter please anyone ???? . Just fitted heater to my garage and what a difference. Got it running off a car battery at moment
Just search eBay for a 20a PC Power Supply - there's loads of them at £20
How well do you trust the cheap Chinese manufacturer to ensure that the combustion products (Carbon Monoxide) don't mix with the hot output air, and get blown into your house?
There's four input/outputs to these - the intake for the burn chamber, the intake for the ambient air chamber, then exhaust for each - the chambers are separate and spaced well apart in operation. Plus add a carbon monoxide detector in the clean hot air output.
@@MarkIAnson I'd trust the CO detector. I wouldn't trust the 'spaced well apart' marketing.
@@trevuser2007 I spaced them well apart...the exhaust is around 8 foot from the intake (outside) in the finished box...there's no marketing involved.
@@trevuser2007 This exact form design has been used in RVs and campers since the 1960's. The only reason they exist now so cheaply is because the German patent has expired. They are built exactly like those original heaters, but may not last as long. People are reporting they have used them at least 2 years without issues. There are some issues however, but solutions are easily found here on RUclips.
I'd put a 4A resettable blade fuse on the power supply's 12v outlet :)
It has exactly that
@@MarkIAnson Probably won't ever matter, but right after the power supply is best, unless the supply has its own output fuse built in.
Where is the exhaust and you do have a carbon monoxide detector ?
The exhaust is on the right but, the pipe is added later
I need a link for the converter or whatever it is called, I want to connect the diesel heater to the electricity in the house. Thanks
Search eBay for a 20a PC Supply - all PC's are actually 12v so it's a step down transformer from 240v to 12v
Would a 10 amp step down be OK?
@@kawasakiinitful Has to be 20a because the heater draws 10-15a on start up
@@kawasakiinitful I tried myself and is not enough.
Considering the cost of diesel fuel it seems like that would be a pretty expensive way to heat.
red diesel
@@MarkIAnson yeah you're right I didn't think about that you can get some off-road diesel much cheaper for these heaters. I still think they're great for a backup heating source or camping. Propane is not only expensive it's just not convenient. They don't conveniently price it either you basically got to knock on doors and ask them how much they want. Then there's the big propane bottles to carry around. I thought about getting one of these for a long time but then it comes down to do I take a chance on a chinese-made one and hope it's okay or do I spend the big money to get one made in Germany that's high quality. You can buy these things for like $100 the Chinese ones. Maybe they're okay.
@@tolmie1141 I'm running three Chinese heaters and have done one of them for 3 years - the "cheapness" is in the exhaust, the silencer, some of the brackets are a bit flimsy, the pipe clips...just change those bits out and you're good to go.
Should get you a bigger diesel tank
lol, I have run one at the back of the house, in my workspace and got a truck tank, 40litres but, it lasts forever.
in regards to small inexpensive "diesel air heating" units, i have question, i simple hho system could make the system far far more cleaner, smaller, produce more heat, and use the same idea/technology we already have and be less expensive then a diesel system. simply replace the glow plug with a spark system, and install an a simple hho plate generator to produce the hho from electrical power. seems to me hho would be great it this type of heater. fuel on demand, ideas? thanks. nice setup u got!
Sorry, I've no idea what any that means.