Really appreciate the effort, Fedor. Your insight is invaluable. Just found an A5M deal from a 3rd party vendor for $278.07 total. I'd also like to add that I've been a viewer since your channel's early days with the Voxelab videos, and your channel & content has certainly grown to be of my favorite. Thank you for everything.
I think this is going to be my new printer. My old printers have sat unused as i could never get them to print reliably. This new generation of core xy gives me hope. The removable nozzle is genius
Just got this printer. Very slick and well built. Literally followed the manual and it printed out of the box. Only on print two but these modem core xy printers/tech are amazing
Full klipper/fluidd access would make this one of the best printers out there right now. It would allow for things like KAMP and also adjust the loud fan even more. For now i just replaced it with a 120mm slim PC fan and finally it's silent.
This is literally the only thing that is preventing me from seriously considering one. The locked down Klipper without network printing for anything but their own slicer is an absolute deal-breaker for me.
1:55 into the video, read these comments, done. In the process of Klipperizing both of my printers and its my number one priority. Locking down any of it limits my ability to customize my farm.
I just ordered one. I got a basic ender 3 a couple of weeks ago and have been shocked at how painful it was to assemble and use. Sd card slot died and it likes to stop extruding halfway through prints. I have high hopes for this new printer. I was really looking for ease of use and printing and not tinkering. I think this will be very nice.
super excited about this machine it's arriving today, I'm an industrial design student with the need to rapid prototype pretty regularly this is going to be a big help I'm tired of having to constantly tinker with my ender 3 v2
Awesome review! This thing had me at the price, lost me at it's implementation of Klipper, and then got me right back when I saw that hot-end!! Great feature to highlight and I wish more companies follow suit.
Agreed on all points, except Flashforge have allegedly patented the hot-end design, so don't expect any other companies to follow suit with that exact design.
Seeing where things were just last year, it makes me so happy to see low cost printers with so much packed in. The value proposition is crazy compared to when I bought my Aquilas.
@@MilestoneVids Voxelab Aquila, theyre ender 3 v2 clones featured a lot on this channel. They were cheaper and had more features, though it would be hard to recommend them now with the current offerings, they were great printers I ran 4 of 24/7 for like two years.
Not releasing Klipper is the number one reason I didn't get the Advernturer 5M Pro and the bed size comes into a close seconds. Since QIDI fixed the x line up I got that instead. So far I'm liking the X-plus 3... Though I hope that quick change nozzle idea inspires the rest of the market.
Thanks for the detailed review, I have an anycubic photon mono x 6k been loving it. The quality is insane I couldnt imagine what the 14k would look like. But I have been wanting to try a bambu labs machine and couldnt justify that price. I just pulled the trigger on a 5M got mine for 289$ including shipping and tax on the site which seems great. I think the Photon Mono M5s Pro may be next the heated enclosure would be amazing!
I really appreciate this video. Im a total noob at 3D printing. I won one of these printers at a conference this week and I have much to learn. Mine doesn't seem as loud as yours, I wonder if they have made changes.
Dude I am so hyped to receive this printer from Amazon for $299+ tax ($320 or something) as of 1/29/24. There are so many features I am excited about! I bought an Ender 3 pro about 8 months ago that is currently MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS PRINTER. And I got less than half the features of this printer. From the moment I had to build everything on the Ender out the box to all the clogging and wiring you outlined, oh and the manual leveling I do every few prints. All those things are so annoying tasks that this printer looks to eliminate. Oh and the drag, drop, print I am so looking forward to. Tired of moving the 2GB microSD back and forth from the PC to printer. Drag and print baby, love it! 2 more days. I wonder how much quicker it will be? I need to mass produce products so depending on how this printer does, I may snag more
Hehe i told you... Nice review, and yes we need more ppl making fuzz with them about klipper.. right now is the only thing stopping me from buying the 5m pro.
Its a shame that they don't offer a Max version like the other two companies. I'm in the market for a rtr cxy printer that's closer to 300mm cubed and the only 2 that come close give hesitation. Bambu and Flashforge are really dropping the ball here driving customers like Me to their competitors. Another great video BTW I like the way you format all of your reviews
Agree 100% that not releasing their klipper changes etc is not ok, and they need to correct that. That flies in the face of the open source reason it exists, and not what we want these companies defaulting to. Making a good base HW is not enough if the SW is effectively locked and 'stolen.' MY first 3DP was from their sister company the Voxelab Aquila (assisted by your may early vids.) :) having now added a couple vorons, and I've purchase spools of Flashforge filament. Which I won't be doing any more until they correctly release their changes etc.
Respect. At the moment, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt. However, cautiously. Just like with Creality. I just dont get why some try to play this game. I think it only ends up hurting themselves in the end.
Thank for the great review! That printer printer looks exactly like what I'm looking for, except for the them locking it down. I wonder how hard it would be to jail-break the integrated Linux system to open up Klipper for Mainsail ...
Almost, they did release it but they havent allowed root or ssh. Once we get that, we’re golden since we will actually be able to install things like Fluidd, use it with Orca Slicer, etc.
This week Flashforge released klipper for this printer, files for an enclosure, and a $100 off coupon. Think I'll be ordering one. Edit: one of the listings on Amazon had a coupon for 20% of nozzles in addition to the $100 off. Think it ends tonight 2/2.
It's a lot of hardware for the money! Being enclosed at this price is impressive. Releasing the Klipper firmware was the right move for sure. Biggest demerit in most reviews was the closed firmware.
Thanks for the very thorough review. Regarding the noise: isn’t it an issue with most newer “open” printers with the option of printing superfast? But what I understand from you, it will not throttle down if you set it to print at low speed? Let’s hope it can be dealt with in a firmware update. BR, Anders
@@3DPrintSOS Thank you for the prompt answer and confirmation of the fw update. I m close to press the buy button. In my other hobby I need from 100-150 smaller parts, many of which are identical. They are not super complex, but I would need some sturdiness from them. One of the toughened PLA’s would be adequate. But that’s why I’m also curious about long term stability and reliability of the printer.
My best advice would be to jump into my discord and ask in there. I’m just one guy but there are many that have this machine in there and would probably give you the input you need to make the decision easier. :)
Update: I received the printer and LOVE IT! Night and day from the POS Ender 3 Pro, I already listed in for sale thats how much i dislike that printer. The default speed was 300mm, I was shocked how fast it was printing. It was more accurate than the Ender 3 and much faster - unfortunately I am not sure how to relay the speed per material used but printing the same gcode, the Ender took 4 hours and the 5M took only 34 minutes!. The end product was clean AF! I have a few questions about the printer: 1) Where do I find the idle fan settings? I did not see it on the on screen display 2) Can I use PLA with .6mm and .8mm nozzles? I looked at the Forge website and it seemed that they did not suggest using the regular PLA. Thoughts? 3) My external camera does not seem to work when the job is running. I have the latest firmware installed. Seems like each time I turn on the camera and video, it turns off again in the settings. Anything you can suggest?
Awesome. Glad you like it. 1. Not sure what you mean. I believe those are all firmware controlled. 2. You should be able to, but you would have to slow down quite a bit at those diameters and make sure you have your profiles set accordingly to the nozzles. Others, should be good. although not on this machine, I print PLA with .6 all the time. 3. I’ve never tried to run it with a camera. However, it sounds like there is a ton of stuff going on firmware wise with them. So after the Chinese new year is over, we will be getting a new update for sure. I’ll have more insight after that.
@@3DPrintSOS After selecting .6mm in ForgePrint, the default speed dropped to 200mm, but I did change it to 300mm. Running a job now, so far looking good. Ill keep an eye out on those firmware updates. Seeing some bugs after leaving the screen inactive. Seems like the screen locks up and disconnects the device from the WiFi in the process. While the job is running, sometimes I can touch the screen it would come up, other times it doesnt and you just see the Flashforge logo, but can't click into the menus. Thanks for the quick feedback. Ill leave a like and a sub for the efforts! Keep making great content, look forward to more of your videos.
Hmm. I was just doing some prints on mine and havent noticed the screen locking up. I wonder if it’s just some bug. It’s good to know the machine can keep things cool at 200/300 at .6mm. Thats impressive considering how much plastic is coming out compared to .4mm!
@@3DPrintSOS One more question for you boss. In the menu to change the filament type, I see the option for ABS on my 5M (not pro). I thought this was only available to Pro models. Can I use ABS on this 5M also, since its an option?
@@nomadtechyittv3985 You can totally do it. The hotend goes hotend and so does the bed. I would try to keep the air around the machine as still as possible and as warm as possible. Printing tall, square probably wont work without an enclosure but I dont see why smaller abs/asa prints wouldnt work. ;)
@@3DPrintSOSlooking forward to it! Would you mind testing the vibration compensation sensor from the k1/sonic pad with it to see if it’s the same part/have the same connector?
Hello, I am writing to you to tell you that I have had the 5M for 1 week now and I am rather happy with it, fast and precise as you described in your video and I thank you for that, I also want to ask you if you had little clicking sounds at the level of the tray (towards the bottom) which in my case clicks as soon as I put the tray up to temperature and also when it cools down (even with the machine turned off it cracks a few times), certainly an expansion of something, after this doubt a little message to the after-sales service, photos and video to support, they returned me this: "There is no risk in this situation. If there is no printing problem, could you continue to use it? Then you can be more careful. If you have any further questions, please let us know and we will do our best to help you." So ok, given the feedback the problem is not major, but it is not normal either in my opinion, that is why I am coming to you to ask you if this little problem which is just auditory and which don't rush on the prints you arrive also, in any case thank you for your feedback, and if anyone else has this problem I would have liked to know, thank you in advance......
Glad you’re enjoying the machine! I think those sounds maybe normal since there is a mix of materials in that are and things are heating and cooling. I think it’s normal to get some clicks here and there.
@@3DPrintSOS Thank you for this feedback, but do you have these expansion noises? After insisting with the after-sales service they confirmed to me that this would not cause any problems, but they did not tell me what caused the problem, rather strange, after all that. It may just be a dilation of a non-major element, given all the different materials that are under the bed as you say, in any case thank you very much for this follow-up it's really nice....
Hello, I am a new entrant in this 3d printer business, I am now between Creality CR-10 SE and Flashforge Adventurer 5M 3d printer, which printer is better with your experience?
What machine do you think I should get. Flying bear reborn 2, Ender 3v3 se , neptune 4 / 4 max sounds nice, Flashforge Advernturer 5M ?? One thing in your videos im wishing more of is comparisons to other machines in the range. Cause Im looking into getting a machine, and there are so many now that seem good. I used to have a lulzbot taz 6 and it worked good. Had to sell it now im wanting to make things again.. Ive never used another 3d printer tho.. I was hopping now the cheap ones are more user friendly and they seem to be, but will I be disappointed if I get one of these printers now? Really good videos Thankyou!
I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them honestly. They are in a different league now. The only note is the Reborn2 is probably the only one that I would say “needs work”. And what I mean by that is that it would be a 2x if not 3x better with some modifications. So if you like to tinker, that’s the one. It’s fully open sourced. Even the cad files. The others, not so much. The 5M being closed source entirely yet probably best printing out of the bunch. I don’t have experience with Elegoo but I hear great things about the 4 series. And the Ender 3v3 SE is an amazing budget machine as long as you don’t want enclosed coreXY. :)
Oh also, I used to do massive comparisons with elaborate scores on the channel but those videos got the lowest rankings according to analytics. So I stopped because they took forever to make and didn’t seem to payoff. :/
@@3DPrintSOS Hey thank you for your input. I think im going to go with the Neptune 4 max since its new and I hear a lot more nice things about the Neptune line, and rarely hear about flying bear. Also I dont want to tinker as much as possible cause I want to focus on my project. hopefully I chose a good machine.
Thank for the video it was great. I just finally setup my 5M. I'm gruading up from an Adventurer 3. Holy Crap the 5M is fast violently fast. You mentioned slowing yours down. you mentioned 100mm slower what exact settings did you use to do that. Thanks!!!
My Sovol SV01 finally died 3 days ago after 3 years of daily abuse. I needed something quick and stumbled across this FF 5M for $299 on Amazon. I was going to repair the SVO1 , but after just 2 days of this machine, I’m throwing my Sovol in the trash. This thing prints up to 4 times faster and waaaay better print quality. I literally feel like a stole it for $299 as if this post. I’m considering another one and do the enclosure DIY later. Great review. I watched this AC few times before purchasing 🎉🙏🏾👍🏾
Hello, thank you again for this excellent video, has the wifi problem with orca slicer been resolved since then and the fan no longer makes noise then? thank you ...
The wifi problem is not yet fixed but they are talking about opening everything up shortly. So we’re hopeful. As for the fan, thats right, the recent updates have stopped the fans from always running.
@@3DPrintSOS Hello and thank you very much for your response, I will order the 5M soon, I already have the A1 from bambu lab, do you think that the 5M will have as good quality prints as the A1 or even P1S?, thank you...
If price wasnt a part of this, Id go K1 because its enclosed and runs open source firmware that we have full access to. If you can get the 5m for cheaper than the K1, then the 5M is a great choice. :)
Considering that 5M (non-pro), Ender 3 V3 KE and Neptune 4 is almost at the same price (from ~260 to ~300 EUR). In that case: 5M the best printer? Have any other printer that I may need to consider (for
@@3DPrintSOS I bought the 5M. I think the only (big) downside is the nozzle cost. Do you know if any third-party sells just the "nozzle tip", instead of the full nozzle (with the heater...)?
@3DPrintSOS I finally received my 5M, and I honestly don't recommend it at all. After the calibration it will print a "test cube". Well, the nozzle hits directly into the bed. That issue seems to be common, on Amazon reviews and also on Reddit. The damage on the nozzle was enough to cause temperature errors. I remove and insert again the nozzle, then it "seems to work". But, I don't know for how long. Let's see what happens next.
Oh no. Im sorry to hear that! First time hearing about it to be honest.@@FrequenciaJogos I still use mine regularly and it’s been rock solid. Especially with TPU. I wonder if the calibration needed a restart or something similar that it missed… Eitherway, sorry to hear it.
Hello, please tell me this machine has a removable hot end, but it is quite expensive, and I print with carbon-filled filaments and the nozzles wear out quickly! Can I just replace the nozzle on this printer or if the nozzle wears out do I have to buy a hot end for $50???
Just like with any machine, you will have to purchase a hotend that is capable of printing what you want. In this case, the nozzles are integrated units. would be great to have a swappable solution for carbon filled and non. I actually don’t think this is a negative at all. brilliantly done, really. But yes, if you want to print carbon filled, you will have to buy the correct hotend unit.
@@3DPrintSOS Do they have hardened nozzles out of the box or just brass? In the photo and video I saw a turnkey cutout on the nozzles, perhaps they can be unscrewed?
They are using Klipper. You can find it when digging through the firmware update files. And yes I agree, that’s why I mentioned it twice in the video and messaged them directly about it. They need a nudge just like Creality did and still does.
Klipper is GPL v3, meaning they not only need to open source any changes they made to it, but also have to give every user the opportunity to replace their version by any other version the user might make (either based on theirs or on another fork).
@@3DPrintSOS It crossed my mind, that it could be using Uleando shaping - they have it in some previous printer. But when files suggest it's Klipper and Flashforge gives no answer, it leaves very little doubt of being anything else than Klipper :/
Might just go for a ziptie untill a better solution is avalible. Really big difference compared to my Velleman 8400. Previously the tinkering was half the thing. But now I just want printed parts in good quality.
Dude this printer is actially sick fast. Imagine look on my face never having experienced a printer this fast and seeing it first time it made me jump like a neanderthal seeing fire for the first time. EDIT: it looks like they have released klipprr as of 2 months ago.
What printer should I get, the Adventurer 5m, Creality K1, or K1C? I am looking for the most reliable and best printer for PLA and some PETG with the least ghosting.
The $299 price tag of the adventurer is hard to beat. the K1C is superb though. but if don’t need the enclosure or CF filaments, then it’s a moot point.
Thanx for the video. I have mine for about two weeks. You mentioning that to be used with Orca Slicer. May I ask you how? Orca, and any other slicer not providing .gx/.g files, and A5M only accepts these and NOT .gcode. Do you have a workaround please?
One is an opensource playground and one is a walled garden. I think if I only had one machine, I’d go for the Ghost. If I had another machine to tinker with, I’d get this as the no-nonsense printer. The Ghost is Enclosed and I like printing ABS. ;)
so i'm torn between this and the Creality Ender 3 v3 KE both at the same price which one would be better as a first printer? also discord's been pointing me towards the sovol sv06 but idk
The SV06 can't hold a candle to either of these machines. The Flashforge is more advanced machine with a great nozzle swapping system and a decent slicer. The KE is simpler and a bit more traditional. My vote is for the 5M since you can enclose it.
Hey! so i got it. I'm trying to print miniatures with .25 nozzle on Orcaslicer but i'm having issues with almost everything XD you have any setting recomendations? @@3DPrintSOS
hi literally i now have 1x CR-10 SE just arrived at RM1357 / $284. now i can get FF AD5M for $299+$30fee=RM1600+-.should i buy this next ? this looks very promising.
A bit. But it’s a moot point now as they released their version. We are just waiting to be able to SSH and get root access to it so we can use things like Fluidd and WiFi via Orca Slicer
Can you down load files on a sd card and plug into machine to start printing... also what do you think about this machine at $300 , at which is what I paid
I don't get why people keep spamming this like it's a bad thing. It's obviously trying to be a P1P, but it's also more in some aspects and overall it's a coreXY. There is only so much you can do in terms of design with a metal frame and some rods/linear rails unless you want to go over the top liek Qidi printers.
Mine drove itself into the bed on second layer and broke the hotend, costumer service sent different firmware, then it drove itself into the bed on the purge.
Thanks for this review! , question: if you have sent the file to the printer, should you leave FlashPrint open or can you close it and the printer will then continue printing??
This is definitely more premium and refined than the KLP1. However, the KLP1 uses open source firmware and non proprietary parts. So some may choose it over this just for that.
I don't mind if they locked their own firmware down. Using open source firmware and locking it down is where I get mad. It's why I'm no longer going to purchase a printer from them. You can diy a better printer for roughly the same price.
Why don´t they make a spool mount inside the machine beneath the heated bed, or above the print head. Yeah the machine would grow slightly is size but those Core XY machines are pretty low profile anyway. This way the filament being inside would be also pre heat and kept dry. Mounting it to the side kind of ruins the overall clean design of the machine too.
They released it, but it’s not yet usable to root or gain access to. It’s a good step, but it’s not done yet. I was told my some folks that got word that they will be further expanding on this. So that’s great. Hopefully soon.
Welp, that’s a whoopsie then. I typically print ABS/ASA at 265. So for me personally, thats ok. But I can see if you wanted to go PC or similar, then you’d need to go higher. Very rare for me.@@vim55k
@@Pouchey2 I ordered the A5m and I’m going to return the 3v3. The core xy is an inherently faster platform and now that I figured out I can root klipper I’m committing to it.
The Effector is the strongest point fot this machine. The easy hotend swap with the cover plate is the best I have ever seen BUT it is patented. Ironic how Flashforge uses Klipper illegally so but patents their own hotend.
Then you’ll love the flashforge. I would rate it waaaay higher if they weren’t actively stealing from the opensource community and making money off it. It’s otherwise and great machine.
In my area, Bambu Lab P1P ist 650€, K1 is 430€and the 5M 400€. I don´t like that we don´t have access to twitter but on the other hand I don´t mind to change values, it´s just a licensing problem which I have a problem with. I hope they will be pressured to release it. I don´t like using my network for prints anyways and Bambu Lab shares all your private information with the Chinese CCP which I am not fond of. So the Flashforge it is for me.
Using Open Source and lock it down is 100% illegal... I was considering this machine to move from my Ol' faithful Voxelab. This is a pass for me I'm a 20 year contributer to multiple open software projects and just because of that I can't give them my money! (If that makes sense) If they were using their own proprietary software I'd be ok I can pay for a product software doesn't have to be "free" all the time, but I know many people put an inmense amount of their time for free! If you're going to profit from it at the very least you should keep it open and contribute to it. Closing it and profiting from it is stealing others efforts.
I agree with this statement. It must be mentioned that they have heard the complaints and have posted their source code on GitHub. which technically makes it opensource now. they didn’t give us root access or even full access, but the code, technically, is now available. They have also made a bunch of little firmware updates that make the machine better. like fans turning off when they aren’t needed and the display having a sleep move. So that is something worth thinking about.
@@3DPrintSOS Cool, that's a step in the right direction. IMO if they still use the base code of somebody else they should be contributing to the upstream repo (I'd admit I don't know if they do..) Thanks for the review I'm new (roughly a year) in the 3D printing world and it was your channel that made me buy my first printer! ✌️ So kudos to you for keeping it real! And honest..
I think the deliberate software license violation by Flashforge is enough to say NO to this printer. Sadly these chinese companies do not seem to care about honoring open source licenses. They seem to have no problems stealing form the open source community though!
Really appreciate the effort, Fedor. Your insight is invaluable. Just found an A5M deal from a 3rd party vendor for $278.07 total. I'd also like to add that I've been a viewer since your channel's early days with the Voxelab videos, and your channel & content has certainly grown to be of my favorite. Thank you for everything.
Thank you for being a supporter for so long. I appreciate it and glad I have helped in some way.
I think this is going to be my new printer. My old printers have sat unused as i could never get them to print reliably. This new generation of core xy gives me hope. The removable nozzle is genius
Did u ever get one? What did u think?
Just got this printer. Very slick and well built. Literally followed the manual and it printed out of the box. Only on print two but these modem core xy printers/tech are amazing
They really are a marvel.
just ordered one also, does it come with any filament?
@@murphdog8781 only a small amount . Tiny amount if i recall. Ive been using e-sun epla matte and its been faultless so far
@@murphdog8781It comes with like 50g, not much but it's enough for a few basic prints.
@@murphdog8781 yes it comes with a small filament roll.
Full klipper/fluidd access would make this one of the best printers out there right now. It would allow for things like KAMP and also adjust the loud fan even more. For now i just replaced it with a 120mm slim PC fan and finally it's silent.
Exactly.
@@3DPrintSOS In one of the first reviews the first thing the guy did was replacing that fan with a Noctua 😆
This is literally the only thing that is preventing me from seriously considering one. The locked down Klipper without network printing for anything but their own slicer is an absolute deal-breaker for me.
1:55 into the video, read these comments, done. In the process of Klipperizing both of my printers and its my number one priority. Locking down any of it limits my ability to customize my farm.
I just ordered one. I got a basic ender 3 a couple of weeks ago and have been shocked at how painful it was to assemble and use. Sd card slot died and it likes to stop extruding halfway through prints. I have high hopes for this new printer. I was really looking for ease of use and printing and not tinkering. I think this will be very nice.
super excited about this machine it's arriving today, I'm an industrial design student with the need to rapid prototype pretty regularly this is going to be a big help I'm tired of having to constantly tinker with my ender 3 v2
Awesome review! This thing had me at the price, lost me at it's implementation of Klipper, and then got me right back when I saw that hot-end!! Great feature to highlight and I wish more companies follow suit.
Agreed on all points, except Flashforge have allegedly patented the hot-end design, so don't expect any other companies to follow suit with that exact design.
Ah patents. Gotta love it. :(
@PrintsLeo3D That’s basically the rollercoaster of emotions I went through in this one. Haha
Nice work Fedor. I also like the intro. I can tell you are putting some hard work in. I have been waiting to see this video. Cheers
I appreciate that Andre. The intros are fun to make. That’s for sure.
Seeing where things were just last year, it makes me so happy to see low cost printers with so much packed in. The value proposition is crazy compared to when I bought my Aquilas.
Yeah thats for sure. Even machines from last year alone seem like dinosaurs to today’s machines. Crazy.
What the hell is a Aquilas and what made you want to buy one ?
@@MilestoneVids Voxelab Aquila, theyre ender 3 v2 clones featured a lot on this channel. They were cheaper and had more features, though it would be hard to recommend them now with the current offerings, they were great printers I ran 4 of 24/7 for like two years.
Ordered coming tomorrow
That thing will be on my list to Santa 🙂 Nice that you called Flashforge out onn the Klipper issue 👌
Not releasing Klipper is the number one reason I didn't get the Advernturer 5M Pro and the bed size comes into a close seconds. Since QIDI fixed the x line up I got that instead. So far I'm liking the X-plus 3... Though I hope that quick change nozzle idea inspires the rest of the market.
Thanks for the detailed review, I have an anycubic photon mono x 6k been loving it. The quality is insane I couldnt imagine what the 14k would look like. But I have been wanting to try a bambu labs machine and couldnt justify that price. I just pulled the trigger on a 5M got mine for 289$ including shipping and tax on the site which seems great. I think the Photon Mono M5s Pro may be next the heated enclosure would be amazing!
I really appreciate this video. Im a total noob at 3D printing. I won one of these printers at a conference this week and I have much to learn.
Mine doesn't seem as loud as yours, I wonder if they have made changes.
Nice win! They have made changes. It’s gotten much better actually. :)
Dude I am so hyped to receive this printer from Amazon for $299+ tax ($320 or something) as of 1/29/24. There are so many features I am excited about! I bought an Ender 3 pro about 8 months ago that is currently MORE EXPENSIVE THAN THIS PRINTER. And I got less than half the features of this printer. From the moment I had to build everything on the Ender out the box to all the clogging and wiring you outlined, oh and the manual leveling I do every few prints. All those things are so annoying tasks that this printer looks to eliminate. Oh and the drag, drop, print I am so looking forward to. Tired of moving the 2GB microSD back and forth from the PC to printer. Drag and print baby, love it! 2 more days. I wonder how much quicker it will be? I need to mass produce products so depending on how this printer does, I may snag more
Oh yeah for sure. No comparison there. You’re gonna love it.
Was able to get one of these for $100 and this video has me excited for when it arrives in Wednesday. For $100 I can definitely deal with those cons.
That’s an insane deal. The updates they have done via firmware have been great. The machine is much better off already. Youre going to love it.
I paid 300$$$
Yeah they need to open up Klipper on this thing. They even shipped it with Orca slicer on the SD card.
Thats the baffling part. Orca even has this machine default in the latest build.
Hehe i told you...
Nice review, and yes we need more ppl making fuzz with them about klipper.. right now is the only thing stopping me from buying the 5m pro.
You totally deserve a shoutout for pointing out the proof that they are indeed running Klipper. I will pin this comment. :)
Its a shame that they don't offer a Max version like the other two companies. I'm in the market for a rtr cxy printer that's closer to 300mm cubed and the only 2 that come close give hesitation. Bambu and Flashforge are really dropping the ball here driving customers like Me to their competitors.
Another great video BTW I like the way you format all of your reviews
Yeah I agree. I think they are testing the waters with these. And glad you’re enjoying the vids. :)
@@3DPrintSOSdo you think the build volume is too small of the 5m?
Agree 100% that not releasing their klipper changes etc is not ok, and they need to correct that. That flies in the face of the open source reason it exists, and not what we want these companies defaulting to. Making a good base HW is not enough if the SW is effectively locked and 'stolen.' MY first 3DP was from their sister company the Voxelab Aquila (assisted by your may early vids.) :) having now added a couple vorons, and I've purchase spools of Flashforge filament. Which I won't be doing any more until they correctly release their changes etc.
Respect. At the moment, I’m going to give them the benefit of the doubt. However, cautiously. Just like with Creality. I just dont get why some try to play this game. I think it only ends up hurting themselves in the end.
I LOVE my FF-A5MP ❤❤❤ Thanks for helping me decide! Cheers!!!!
You can monitor your prints by using your phone and Flash Cloud 😊 If you have 5M Pro you can use camera for monitoring 👌
The 5M supports cameras now as well according to the update text. I haven’t tried FlashCloud though. I’ll check it out. Thanks.
Thank for the great review! That printer printer looks exactly like what I'm looking for, except for the them locking it down. I wonder how hard it would be to jail-break the integrated Linux system to open up Klipper for Mainsail ...
I contro mi hanno messo a terra, non fa per me, grazie per aver espresso così bene 🤙🏻
Thats why I do it. Glad you found it useful. :)
@@3DPrintSOS sei un vero appassionato 🚀🚀
This is on sale for $299 right now. Is this a better option over the ender 3 v3 ke? Great videos I subbed immediately!
I’m wondering the same thing, I already ordered the 3v3 and then found this deal
Great video.
Thank you for your hard work. 😊
Flashforge released an Klipper firmware for the 5M and 5M Pro a few days ago; does that catapult it to the top of the recommended list?
Almost, they did release it but they havent allowed root or ssh. Once we get that, we’re golden since we will actually be able to install things like Fluidd, use it with Orca Slicer, etc.
This week Flashforge released klipper for this printer, files for an enclosure, and a $100 off coupon. Think I'll be ordering one.
Edit: one of the listings on Amazon had a coupon for 20% of nozzles in addition to the $100 off. Think it ends tonight 2/2.
I ordered one, but I’m not sure what klipper is? Also what files for enclosure?
It's a lot of hardware for the money! Being enclosed at this price is impressive. Releasing the Klipper firmware was the right move for sure. Biggest demerit in most reviews was the closed firmware.
Nathan from Nathan Builds Robots put a different stepper driver fan in the back and it cut the decibels from 47 to 41.
Again one that I would buy to replace my aging Creality CR6-SE but the closed source throws me off again just like the Bambu...
Yep, exactly. They need to give us root.
Excellent as always Fedor! Looks like I need to design a filament roll holder? ;)
Thanks for the very thorough review.
Regarding the noise: isn’t it an issue with most newer “open” printers with the option of printing superfast? But what I understand from you, it will not throttle down if you set it to print at low speed?
Let’s hope it can be dealt with in a firmware update.
BR,
Anders
Exactly. Also they fixed it! A firmware update made the fans turn off at idle. so now, it’s much better.
@@3DPrintSOS Thank you for the prompt answer and confirmation of the fw update.
I m close to press the buy button. In my other hobby I need from 100-150 smaller parts, many of which are identical. They are not super complex, but I would need some sturdiness from them. One of the toughened PLA’s would be adequate.
But that’s why I’m also curious about long term stability and reliability of the printer.
My best advice would be to jump into my discord and ask in there. I’m just one guy but there are many that have this machine in there and would probably give you the input you need to make the decision easier. :)
Update: I received the printer and LOVE IT! Night and day from the POS Ender 3 Pro, I already listed in for sale thats how much i dislike that printer. The default speed was 300mm, I was shocked how fast it was printing. It was more accurate than the Ender 3 and much faster - unfortunately I am not sure how to relay the speed per material used but printing the same gcode, the Ender took 4 hours and the 5M took only 34 minutes!. The end product was clean AF!
I have a few questions about the printer:
1) Where do I find the idle fan settings? I did not see it on the on screen display
2) Can I use PLA with .6mm and .8mm nozzles? I looked at the Forge website and it seemed that they did not suggest using the regular PLA. Thoughts?
3) My external camera does not seem to work when the job is running. I have the latest firmware installed. Seems like each time I turn on the camera and video, it turns off again in the settings. Anything you can suggest?
Awesome. Glad you like it.
1. Not sure what you mean. I believe those are all firmware controlled.
2. You should be able to, but you would have to slow down quite a bit at those diameters and make sure you have your profiles set accordingly to the nozzles. Others, should be good. although not on this machine, I print PLA with .6 all the time.
3. I’ve never tried to run it with a camera. However, it sounds like there is a ton of stuff going on firmware wise with them. So after the Chinese new year is over, we will be getting a new update for sure. I’ll have more insight after that.
@@3DPrintSOS After selecting .6mm in ForgePrint, the default speed dropped to 200mm, but I did change it to 300mm. Running a job now, so far looking good. Ill keep an eye out on those firmware updates. Seeing some bugs after leaving the screen inactive. Seems like the screen locks up and disconnects the device from the WiFi in the process. While the job is running, sometimes I can touch the screen it would come up, other times it doesnt and you just see the Flashforge logo, but can't click into the menus.
Thanks for the quick feedback. Ill leave a like and a sub for the efforts! Keep making great content, look forward to more of your videos.
Hmm. I was just doing some prints on mine and havent noticed the screen locking up. I wonder if it’s just some bug.
It’s good to know the machine can keep things cool at 200/300 at .6mm. Thats impressive considering how much plastic is coming out compared to .4mm!
@@3DPrintSOS One more question for you boss. In the menu to change the filament type, I see the option for ABS on my 5M (not pro). I thought this was only available to Pro models. Can I use ABS on this 5M also, since its an option?
@@nomadtechyittv3985 You can totally do it. The hotend goes hotend and so does the bed. I would try to keep the air around the machine as still as possible and as warm as possible. Printing tall, square probably wont work without an enclosure but I dont see why smaller abs/asa prints wouldnt work. ;)
Nice video
Is there a video coming about the Creality ender 3 v3 KE
Yes, it’ll be the next machine I review. (one video before it though)
@@3DPrintSOSlooking forward to it!
Would you mind testing the vibration compensation sensor from the k1/sonic pad with it to see if it’s the same part/have the same connector?
Hello, I am writing to you to tell you that I have had the 5M for 1 week now and I am rather happy with it, fast and precise as you described in your video and I thank you for that, I also want to ask you if you had little clicking sounds at the level of the tray (towards the bottom) which in my case clicks as soon as I put the tray up to temperature and also when it cools down (even with the machine turned off it cracks a few times), certainly an expansion of something, after this doubt a little message to the after-sales service, photos and video to support, they returned me this: "There is no risk in this situation. If there is no printing problem, could you continue to use it? Then you can be more careful. If you have any further questions, please let us know and we will do our best to help you." So ok, given the feedback the problem is not major, but it is not normal either in my opinion, that is why I am coming to you to ask you if this little problem which is just auditory and which don't rush on the prints you arrive
also, in any case thank you for your feedback, and if anyone else has this problem I would have liked to know, thank you in advance......
Glad you’re enjoying the machine! I think those sounds maybe normal since there is a mix of materials in that are and things are heating and cooling. I think it’s normal to get some clicks here and there.
@@3DPrintSOS Thank you for this feedback, but do you have these expansion noises? After insisting with the after-sales service they confirmed to me that this would not cause any problems, but they did not tell me what caused the problem, rather strange, after all that. It may just be a dilation of a non-major element, given all the different materials that are under the bed as you say, in any case thank you very much for this follow-up it's really nice....
Can you use the Ethernet connection with other software, or is it like the WiFi - only with theirs?
Could you build a box around the case with sounds proofing material yo lessen the noise?
Great review as always!!! Is the supplied glue stick needed or is PLA adhesion ok without it?
Nah, the PEI is great for PLA.
Real informative, thanks we have subscribed
Glad to have you here. Might need some pointers with my airplane build haha :)
Hello, I am a new entrant in this 3d printer business, I am now between Creality CR-10 SE and Flashforge Adventurer 5M 3d printer, which printer is better with your experience?
What machine do you think I should get. Flying bear reborn 2, Ender 3v3 se , neptune 4 / 4 max sounds nice, Flashforge Advernturer 5M ?? One thing in your videos im wishing more of is comparisons to other machines in the range. Cause Im looking into getting a machine, and there are so many now that seem good. I used to have a lulzbot taz 6 and it worked good. Had to sell it now im wanting to make things again.. Ive never used another 3d printer tho.. I was hopping now the cheap ones are more user friendly and they seem to be, but will I be disappointed if I get one of these printers now? Really good videos Thankyou!
I don’t think you can go wrong with any of them honestly. They are in a different league now. The only note is the Reborn2 is probably the only one that I would say “needs work”. And what I mean by that is that it would be a 2x if not 3x better with some modifications. So if you like to tinker, that’s the one. It’s fully open sourced. Even the cad files. The others, not so much. The 5M being closed source entirely yet probably best printing out of the bunch. I don’t have experience with Elegoo but I hear great things about the 4 series. And the Ender 3v3 SE is an amazing budget machine as long as you don’t want enclosed coreXY. :)
Oh also, I used to do massive comparisons with elaborate scores on the channel but those videos got the lowest rankings according to analytics. So I stopped because they took forever to make and didn’t seem to payoff. :/
@@3DPrintSOS Hey thank you for your input. I think im going to go with the Neptune 4 max since its new and I hear a lot more nice things about the Neptune line, and rarely hear about flying bear. Also I dont want to tinker as much as possible cause I want to focus on my project. hopefully I chose a good machine.
I have an old Creality enclosure that I used with my Ender 3. If this printer will fit in it, do you think it would work for printing ABS?
Yes. Just be sure to vent the electronics or they will overheat.
Thank for the video it was great. I just finally setup my 5M. I'm gruading up from an Adventurer 3. Holy Crap the 5M is fast violently fast. You mentioned slowing yours down. you mentioned 100mm slower what exact settings did you use to do that. Thanks!!!
What are the differences with the 5m Pro. In addition to the fact that it is closed, the filters, the camera?
Thats it. They stripped it down and called it 5M. ;)
My Sovol SV01 finally died 3 days ago after 3 years of daily abuse. I needed something quick and stumbled across this FF 5M for $299 on Amazon.
I was going to repair the SVO1 , but after just 2 days of this machine, I’m throwing my Sovol in the trash. This thing prints up to 4 times faster and waaaay better print quality.
I literally feel like a stole it for $299 as if this post. I’m considering another one and do the enclosure DIY later.
Great review. I watched this AC few times before purchasing 🎉🙏🏾👍🏾
Hello, thank you again for this excellent video, has the wifi problem with orca slicer been resolved since then and the fan no longer makes noise then? thank you ...
The wifi problem is not yet fixed but they are talking about opening everything up shortly. So we’re hopeful. As for the fan, thats right, the recent updates have stopped the fans from always running.
@@3DPrintSOS Hello and thank you very much for your response, I will order the 5M soon, I already have the A1 from bambu lab, do you think that the 5M will have as good quality prints as the A1 or even P1S?, thank you...
@@F.DoctorGT03. I dont have any bambu machines, but the 5M when slowed down a hair prints great. I would say it’s close if not the same quality.
@@3DPrintSOS I print at speeds of 150mm/s so I think it should be pretty, thank you again for your response, see you soon...
Hello. Which printer do you recommend Advernturer 5M or Creality K1? Thank you in advance.
If price wasnt a part of this, Id go K1 because its enclosed and runs open source firmware that we have full access to. If you can get the 5m for cheaper than the K1, then the 5M is a great choice. :)
Thanks for the detailed answer.
Looks like the loud fan turns off when inactive now. Just takes some time, but it does turn that one off.
Considering that 5M (non-pro), Ender 3 V3 KE and Neptune 4 is almost at the same price (from ~260 to ~300 EUR). In that case: 5M the best printer? Have any other printer that I may need to consider (for
I think at the current sale price of the 5M and the fact that they are open sourcing it makes it the top of that list right now.
@@3DPrintSOS I bought the 5M. I think the only (big) downside is the nozzle cost. Do you know if any third-party sells just the "nozzle tip", instead of the full nozzle (with the heater...)?
@3DPrintSOS I finally received my 5M, and I honestly don't recommend it at all. After the calibration it will print a "test cube". Well, the nozzle hits directly into the bed. That issue seems to be common, on Amazon reviews and also on Reddit. The damage on the nozzle was enough to cause temperature errors. I remove and insert again the nozzle, then it "seems to work". But, I don't know for how long.
Let's see what happens next.
Oh no. Im sorry to hear that! First time hearing about it to be honest.@@FrequenciaJogos I still use mine regularly and it’s been rock solid. Especially with TPU. I wonder if the calibration needed a restart or something similar that it missed… Eitherway, sorry to hear it.
Place cardboard or some acrysil sheets or whatever and print ABS with it.
salut , superbe vidéo , est ce que la aventurer 5M a une qualité d 'impressions qui est aussi bien qu'une P1S ?? , merci a vous 👍
Hello, please tell me this machine has a removable hot end, but it is quite expensive, and I print with carbon-filled filaments and the nozzles wear out quickly! Can I just replace the nozzle on this printer or if the nozzle wears out do I have to buy a hot end for $50???
Just like with any machine, you will have to purchase a hotend that is capable of printing what you want. In this case, the nozzles are integrated units. would be great to have a swappable solution for carbon filled and non. I actually don’t think this is a negative at all. brilliantly done, really. But yes, if you want to print carbon filled, you will have to buy the correct hotend unit.
@@3DPrintSOS
Do they have hardened nozzles out of the box or just brass? In the photo and video I saw a turnkey cutout on the nozzles, perhaps they can be unscrewed?
If they are really using Klipper, the they MUST open source it or lose their rights to distribute Klipper as it is licensed under the GPL.
They are using Klipper. You can find it when digging through the firmware update files. And yes I agree, that’s why I mentioned it twice in the video and messaged them directly about it. They need a nudge just like Creality did and still does.
Klipper is GPL v3, meaning they not only need to open source any changes they made to it, but also have to give every user the opportunity to replace their version by any other version the user might make (either based on theirs or on another fork).
Someone should send a letter to the Free Software foundations legal department.@@MisterkeTube
@@3DPrintSOS It crossed my mind, that it could be using Uleando shaping - they have it in some previous printer. But when files suggest it's Klipper and Flashforge gives no answer, it leaves very little doubt of being anything else than Klipper :/
Oh it’s 100% klipper. If you unpack their update files you can see its klipper with modifications. Aka, it must be released based on the license.
Is there a solution for the week magnets i the cover? Mine fell of and pushed the print of the bed.
Not yet, but I had it shift once because the cover was clapping. Crazy how fast this machine is.
Might just go for a ziptie untill a better solution is avalible.
Really big difference compared to my Velleman 8400. Previously the tinkering was half the thing. But now I just want printed parts in good quality.
No Klipper access no party. I'd rather buy QIDI and be able to update and upgrade the maschine.
No klipper access makes me sad.
Dude this printer is actially sick fast.
Imagine look on my face never having experienced a printer this fast and seeing it first time it made me jump like a neanderthal seeing fire for the first time.
EDIT: it looks like they have released klipprr as of 2 months ago.
Oh yeah man, it’s totally crazy AF the first time you see it. haha
What do you mean about them releasing Klipper? Did they open it up so we can tweak/mod it?
Hi, great video, does the Aventurer 5M have a print quality that is as good as a P1S?? , thank you
What printer should I get, the Adventurer 5m, Creality K1, or K1C? I am looking for the most reliable and best printer for PLA and some PETG with the least ghosting.
The $299 price tag of the adventurer is hard to beat. the K1C is superb though. but if don’t need the enclosure or CF filaments, then it’s a moot point.
As a buyer, I after a LARGE printer that's FAST. Are there any alternatives to a Creality K1 Max that you would consider?
The K1 is a great machine. If you like to tinker, the Reborn 2 is pretty cool. Otherwise a Voron might be just what you are after. :)
Thanx for the video. I have mine for about two weeks. You mentioning that to be used with Orca Slicer. May I ask you how? Orca, and any other slicer not providing .gx/.g files, and A5M only accepts these and NOT .gcode. Do you have a workaround please?
if i had to choose between this one, or the ghost 6 from flying bear - which one would you recommend?
One is an opensource playground and one is a walled garden. I think if I only had one machine, I’d go for the Ghost. If I had another machine to tinker with, I’d get this as the no-nonsense printer. The Ghost is Enclosed and I like printing ABS. ;)
so i'm torn between this and the Creality Ender 3 v3 KE both at the same price which one would be better as a first printer?
also discord's been pointing me towards the sovol sv06 but idk
The SV06 can't hold a candle to either of these machines. The Flashforge is more advanced machine with a great nozzle swapping system and a decent slicer. The KE is simpler and a bit more traditional. My vote is for the 5M since you can enclose it.
@@3DPrintSOS sold, buying it right now thanks for the quick response i didnt think you’d reply this late (its 2:30am here)
I think you’ll love it. Yeah it’s 2:30 here too. Guess I should go to sleep! haha@@corruptedredemption736
Hey! so i got it. I'm trying to print miniatures with .25 nozzle on Orcaslicer but i'm having issues with almost everything XD you have any setting recomendations?
@@3DPrintSOS
hi literally i now have 1x CR-10 SE just arrived at RM1357 / $284. now i can get FF AD5M for $299+$30fee=RM1600+-.should i buy this next ? this looks very promising.
Am i wrong if i say its just question of time someone figure it out how to reflash the whole system with native Klipper?
A bit. But it’s a moot point now as they released their version. We are just waiting to be able to SSH and get root access to it so we can use things like Fluidd and WiFi via Orca Slicer
Alright I'm really in between getting a Bambu Lab A1 Mini and Adventurere 5M. Is the price difference worth it?
I would say that the fact that the A1 has an AMS automatically puts it ahead of this machine.
Can you down load files on a sd card and plug into machine to start printing... also what do you think about this machine at $300 , at which is what I paid
Could they be any more obvious about copying the p1p?
Yeah, the overall look is just too close. Wish they changed it up a bit. However, as you can see in the video, it’s quite a bit different otherwise.
I don't get why people keep spamming this like it's a bad thing. It's obviously trying to be a P1P, but it's also more in some aspects and overall it's a coreXY. There is only so much you can do in terms of design with a metal frame and some rods/linear rails unless you want to go over the top liek Qidi printers.
Can you please provide a list of innovative design choices seen by the world for the first time on the Bambu X1/P1P?
And bambu took inspiration from many others, they aren't the first ones to make enclosed core xy machines
Mine drove itself into the bed on second layer and broke the hotend, costumer service sent different firmware, then it drove itself into the bed on the purge.
Thanks for this review! ,
question: if you have sent the file to the printer, should you leave FlashPrint open or can you close it and the printer will then continue printing??
It will keep printing it downloads to the printer once u click send
How would you compare this to the Kingroon KLP1?
This is definitely more premium and refined than the KLP1. However, the KLP1 uses open source firmware and non proprietary parts. So some may choose it over this just for that.
Its bloody expensive in the UK, £600 plus. Where as the Official Creality K1 is less than £500.
Ooof, the non Pro? Yeah, not worth it at that point. K1 walks it for that price difference.
I think you are mistaken...the pro is 600 pounds 😎
Amazon had this for £350 and the pro for £549
I don't mind if they locked their own firmware down. Using open source firmware and locking it down is where I get mad. It's why I'm no longer going to purchase a printer from them. You can diy a better printer for roughly the same price.
Why don´t they make a spool mount inside the machine beneath the heated bed, or above the print head. Yeah the machine would grow slightly is size but those Core XY machines are pretty low profile anyway. This way the filament being inside would be also pre heat and kept dry. Mounting it to the side kind of ruins the overall clean design of the machine too.
You're absolutely right, I'm thinking about two things. Close it and place the filament support on top of the enclosure so that it stays warm and dry.
@@elhiloazulmv Yes I think that would be a good idea.
any problem with auto leveling or bend bed
this is $300 right now. insane!
Crazy deal.
Subscribed. I will make a gift for my boy, It looks like the best option for the price gbp300 and in future can upgrade as well
Hi Fedor, I hope that link I posted for you about the new Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga 3D Core XY Huge Printer on Kick Starter was helpful?
Ive been following its development for a bit. Would love to check that thing out one day!
@@3DPrintSOS 😊
Do need glue
I know it’s possible to replace the fan with a bigger fan
Can you make a new video now that ff released klipper for 5m
They released it, but it’s not yet usable to root or gain access to. It’s a good step, but it’s not done yet. I was told my some folks that got word that they will be further expanding on this. So that’s great. Hopefully soon.
It's a shame they went with a proprietary nozzles and locked down klipper. But overall it looks like an excellent machine.
Love that hotend.
Same! Great idea and execution.
How is it possible its at 300 now
Crazy price and it’s better than ever with all the updates they did. Worth it 100%
More cons: small bed size, only 280c extruder, not cf compatible by default, not enclosed
True, the bed is small. The other stuff they saved for the 5MPro. That machine takes care of the rest. This one is for PETG at most.
@@3DPrintSOS5M pro is 280c as well
Welp, that’s a whoopsie then. I typically print ABS/ASA at 265. So for me personally, thats ok. But I can see if you wanted to go PC or similar, then you’d need to go higher. Very rare for me.@@vim55k
Do u have a amazon link for this im probably buying 1 in a few hours so i can get it tomorrow
never mind i found it on ur comparison video
Thank you! I appreciate that.
@@3DPrintSOS np
You know what cover does have enough space for the filament tube...............A giant black beanie.
Haha. Faaaacts. FB started a trend. 3d printer Beanies need to be real now
Doesn't even show any footage of it running LOL ... I mean nice review but you should have added that
Good point. Thanks for the feedback!
I ordered a Creality 3ve KE and the. I saw I could get this for the same price $299… do I need to return my other printer?
I really hope someone gives you a good answer. I'm about to buy my first printer and it's between this and the 3VE KE.
@@Pouchey2 I ordered the A5m and I’m going to return the 3v3. The core xy is an inherently faster platform and now that I figured out I can root klipper I’m committing to it.
@@crewdawg257 I also just went ahead and ordered the A5M 😂
my fan is not that loud
The Effector is the strongest point fot this machine. The easy hotend swap with the cover plate is the best I have ever seen BUT it is patented.
Ironic how Flashforge uses Klipper illegally so but patents their own hotend.
Flashforge 5M or Creality K1?
You printing any ABS or ASA?
@@3DPrintSOS Nope.
How much do you value “Open Source”
@@3DPrintSOS Non at all.
Then you’ll love the flashforge. I would rate it waaaay higher if they weren’t actively stealing from the opensource community and making money off it. It’s otherwise and great machine.
In my area, Bambu Lab P1P ist 650€, K1 is 430€and the 5M 400€. I don´t like that we don´t have access to twitter but on the other hand I don´t mind to change values, it´s just a licensing problem which I have a problem with. I hope they will be pressured to release it. I don´t like using my network for prints anyways and Bambu Lab shares all your private information with the Chinese CCP which I am not fond of. So the Flashforge it is for me.
Using Open Source and lock it down is 100% illegal... I was considering this machine to move from my Ol' faithful Voxelab. This is a pass for me I'm a 20 year contributer to multiple open software projects and just because of that I can't give them my money! (If that makes sense) If they were using their own proprietary software I'd be ok I can pay for a product software doesn't have to be "free" all the time, but I know many people put an inmense amount of their time for free! If you're going to profit from it at the very least you should keep it open and contribute to it. Closing it and profiting from it is stealing others efforts.
I agree with this statement. It must be mentioned that they have heard the complaints and have posted their source code on GitHub. which technically makes it opensource now. they didn’t give us root access or even full access, but the code, technically, is now available. They have also made a bunch of little firmware updates that make the machine better. like fans turning off when they aren’t needed and the display having a sleep move. So that is something worth thinking about.
@@3DPrintSOS Cool, that's a step in the right direction. IMO if they still use the base code of somebody else they should be contributing to the upstream repo (I'd admit I don't know if they do..)
Thanks for the review I'm new (roughly a year) in the 3D printing world and it was your channel that made me buy my first printer! ✌️ So kudos to you for keeping it real! And honest..
im on it 450 euro super star
Should have tested PETG... pla too easy to print with
$299 on Amazon at time of posting.
Being "open source with klipper" yet completely locked down seems like such a Flashforge thing to do unfortunately. hate how they do this.
Yep, they did the same with a few Voxelab machines. Hoping this video helps change their mind.
I think the deliberate software license violation by Flashforge is enough to say NO to this printer. Sadly these chinese companies do not seem to care about honoring open source licenses. They seem to have no problems stealing form the open source community though!
You can do it open source licenses
Actually open source software/firmware is available to get now from flash forge yourself!
You may want to spell “Adventurer” right in your title so you can get some more views of your great review! 😬😂
Wow. That’s been up there a while now and I never noticed. Thank you!