In his article _My Meeting with Bakshi, or, Goodbye Cool World,_ Steve Moore, a man who worked on Rover Dangerfield, confirmed that Ralph Bakshi tried to convince him to work on CW. At that point, "William" (Willem) Dafoe had been tapped to play Jack Deebs. After seeing how CW ended up, as well as the trailer for The Last Days of Coney Island, Steve has absolutely no regrets about denying Bakshi's request. He described Bakshi's pitched as "like listening to Garrison Keillor read a soft porn script," so CW was presumably still in the R-rated stage at that point. He went onto say, "I have a lot of industry friends who went on to work on _Cool World,_ and their horror stories confirmed my instincts to be correct. People were fired and rehired on a daily basis. Ralph seemed to relish working in chaos." It seems to me that the fighting between Bakshi and the studio got to the point where everyone involved ultimately decided to just embrace the suck and get something made because they all needed something to release.
+PaleoSteno Cool World being bad was more the studio's fault. It was originally going to be an animated horror film where a man and a cartoon have sex, and the cartoon gives birth to a monstrous hybrid named Debbie, who sets out to murder her father as revenge. However the writer, who was responsible for milking the Friday the 13th series, wanted to make a non-horror film and the studios wanted to PG-13fy it to try to imitate the same success as Roger Rabbit. I recommend you check this link out. themrkreviewshow.blogspot.com/2016/07/top-10-films-in-development-hell.html?m=1
Good review! I personally wouldn't call "Cool World" god-awful, but rather one of those kinds of films where you either 'get' them, or you don't. I and a close friend of mine, through repeat viewings, have 'gotten' this film, but we perfectly understand how and why others don't. What happened to this film IS sad, don't get me wrong. But I'm tempted to say that Ralph Bakshi's original vision for "Cool World (the live-action/animated 'horror' concept)" KIND of lives on in the "Bendy and the Ink Machine" games. The premise of them involves humans and animated characters in a 'horror' story and setting.
I paid to see this in the theaters 32 years ago. No matter how much you think this movie sucked, trust me, it sucked worse on a big screen. People were walking out. What I heard was that Kim Basinger was actually pretty hard to work with. Like, most of the rotoscoped scenes of Holly weren’t her. She basically refused to stay on set, so they had to hire a model. I’d heard she was pretty stoned or drunk the whole time. I don’t know if that’s true, but I sort of suspect it is, just given the reputation she had in the ‘80s.
Finally got around to it. I don't think it's a god awful abomination but yeah, it was really difficult to sit through and I just sorta gave up halfway through trying to look at it more analytically cause it made little sense to.
I am low key obsessed with this movie. I have an unhealthy obsession with trainwrecks. You can SEE what it was supposed to be, but it's so warped and mangled that you can't call it a train anymore.
1:20 one of a kind original? It's a _roger rabbit_ rip off focusing on an adult version of toon town that has less (none) nudity than the original. Sure the current releases don't have any dirty parts in roger rabbit now, but Betty Boops boobs come out, Jessica rabbit flashes her boobs, Jessica rabbit spreads her legs in the car crash, and I wanna say there's one more with the hideous Jessica rabbit as well. The shading looks real in roger rabbit it, the cartoons are completely 2 dimensional in cool world. And oh yeah, what about _space jam?_ Same movie type, just far better. Hell, _Pete's dragon_ looked better. And _last action hero_ had a cartoon detective as well, I think.
Well at least you acknowledge those existing, but you still directly said this was a unique and one of a kind movie. You keep repeating the same phrases over and over, this is the perfect counterpart review for such a poor movie
I still watch Cool World. Every once in a while it's on HBO at 1 or 2 in the morning. Maybe it's just the kid in me that remembers watching a cartoon with adult themes. thanks Jim
This movie just feels like it set the bar low for other live action animated hybrids to have the same effect of lame storytelling, weak/less than stellar acting, ultra cheaper effects, negative/mediocre reception, fail miserably, get ripped apart by critics, and compare it to Roger Rabbit or something. This movie is forgettable and it’s the kiss of death for live action animated hybrids.
I'm not so certain it's that cut and dry. If he pitched the movie to the studio the same way he pitched it to the animators, which was "you get to work on the movie where an animator has sex with his creation," then it could be that the studio was fine when the budget was projected to be small, then it turned out that the actual budget would be mainstream level. According to Steve Moore more, Bakshi seems to relish chaos. Check out his article _My Meeting with Bakshi, or, Goodbye Cool World._
@@SirBlackReeds Interesting. I just know what Bakshi has stated in interviews which definitely needs to be taken with a teaspoon of salt, no question. He really is the original animated shit disturber. I will check out Steve Moore's article. Cheers mate, thanks for the input.
The movie and the story is bizarre but not that bad, I actually liked the theme of this "cool world", the style, Holli Would is a very atractive character and she's kinda memorable, it was going somewhere with Holli Would's plot but the ending was really bad and anti-climatic, when she killed Frank (Brad Pitt) the only character that actually had a bit of purpose in the whole movie and everything turned into cartoons, they just dropped the ball there, the world somehow returned to normal and both male actors got stuck in the cartoon world and they turned into cartoons themselves, it would have been cool for Jack (Gabriel Byrne) to kill Holli Would, his own creation and stop with his cartoon nonsense and madness because at the end of the day he was the one who created it, instead of dating his fictional creation, I really wanted him to have a better ending like dating his female neigboor, that girl who actually helped them drive to Las Vegas to stop Holli Would. But instead he turned into a corny super hero character, he ended being with Holli Would inside a comic and changed his voice for no f*cking reason. Another bad turn for the movie, is when Frank died and revived in Cool World and the movie never cared to explain why he ended there in the first place and why he had that accident with his mother... a lot of interesting plots with no solutions or no conclusions at all. Just a mess of different ideas and concepts merged together into one bizarre outcome. It was not the best story or the best characters but at least it could had a good ending. Even when it wasn't the director's original idea it could have been a lot better movie and more well executed.
Hey I'm feeling better today but I'm still very tired and exhausted. Something that I have noticed about your review series at least the most recent ones is that when you get to the last movie a director has done or the last in a film series (at least the official ones or the theatrical ones) they tend to be bad or awful theres this, John Waters, then the Road movies I wonder who's going to be the next catastrophe. I haven't seen this one mostly because I heard it was awful I've seen every Bakshi film except the Showtime one or the Last Days of Coney Island and well I don't want my last Bakshi film experience to be a giant piece of shit trainwreck. I tend to avoid bad movies from directors I like some may say that its bullshit I have to see all their filmography but when they disown it or regret it or when everyone agrees its bad and not that exagerrated its so bad don't ever watch it that you see on a bunch of top 10 lists but instead that yeah this crushed me inside and I died a little bad then I feel I don't need to watch it. If Bakshi ends up making another good film then maybe I'll take a stab at this but otherwise no. I will say that I found the original concept interesting but I still think that both the original name of the character that would become Holli Woud which was Debbie Dallas and the name they ended going with are a really lame names its like really thats the best you could come up with? Anyways yay my essay comments made a comeback and no one cares yay. I'm being a bit of a prick in this comment and I apolagize but fuck these last three days have been stressful, painful, and just all around unpleasant so I'm a bit I don't know whats the word moody I guess can't come up with a better word I want to say sardonic but I have no idea what that means so moody it is. Well before I go I should say great review as always and just like asked a couple days ago and earlier today on the pizza party podcast comment section can you Spooky Jim wait out Juwanna Man until I come back from vacation I know I usually pester you for it but internet connection isn't the best in the Dominican Republic so I'll miss out on you doing the review and explaining to everyone how one lonely guy asked you to do it without end, and then seeing the three people who do comment on the video because nobody else cares about Juwanna Man talk about something else or just them stopping to say "Hey Jim I love you" or "Ask Pan blank Jim". Shit I'm being a prick again sorry as I said its been a hard three days but hey a I at least got the Mermaid 2016 Jim review and a Cool World review as well so thats good anyways sorry for being a prick and have a good day. Oh yeah sorry for two essays instead of one but at least I gave you more than the last few times so yay?
Well. I finally saw Cool World. This movie is the epitome of a mixed bag. The animation is great and the soundtrack is pretty good but the script is just a complete trainwreck due to studio meddling and rewrites courtesy of Frank Mancuso Jr.
In his article _My Meeting with Bakshi, or, Goodbye Cool World,_ Steve Moore, a man who worked on Rover Dangerfield, confirmed that Ralph Bakshi tried to convince him to work on CW. At that point, "William" (Willem) Dafoe had been tapped to play Jack Deebs. After seeing how CW ended up, as well as the trailer for The Last Days of Coney Island, Steve has absolutely no regrets about denying Bakshi's request.
He described Bakshi's pitched as "like listening to Garrison Keillor read a soft porn script," so CW was presumably still in the R-rated stage at that point. He went onto say, "I have a lot of industry friends who went on to work on _Cool World,_ and their horror stories confirmed my instincts to be correct. People were fired and rehired on a daily basis. Ralph seemed to relish working in chaos."
It seems to me that the fighting between Bakshi and the studio got to the point where everyone involved ultimately decided to just embrace the suck and get something made because they all needed something to release.
I saw Cool World a couple years ago when it was on netflix. What a weird awful trip it was.
Also, at 8:27 that's one of your best analogies yet.
+PaleoSteno
Cool World being bad was more the studio's fault. It was originally going to be an animated horror film where a man and a cartoon have sex, and the cartoon gives birth to a monstrous hybrid named Debbie, who sets out to murder her father as revenge. However the writer, who was responsible for milking the Friday the 13th series, wanted to make a non-horror film and the studios wanted to PG-13fy it to try to imitate the same success as Roger Rabbit.
I recommend you check this link out.
themrkreviewshow.blogspot.com/2016/07/top-10-films-in-development-hell.html?m=1
I hate this movie so much, my sister used to play all the time when I was younger, I hated it then, and I hate it now.
Good review! I personally wouldn't call "Cool World" god-awful, but rather one of those kinds of films where you either 'get' them, or you don't. I and a close friend of mine, through repeat viewings, have 'gotten' this film, but we perfectly understand how and why others don't. What happened to this film IS sad, don't get me wrong. But I'm tempted to say that Ralph Bakshi's original vision for "Cool World (the live-action/animated 'horror' concept)" KIND of lives on in the "Bendy and the Ink Machine" games. The premise of them involves humans and animated characters in a 'horror' story and setting.
I paid to see this in the theaters 32 years ago. No matter how much you think this movie sucked, trust me, it sucked worse on a big screen. People were walking out.
What I heard was that Kim Basinger was actually pretty hard to work with. Like, most of the rotoscoped scenes of Holly weren’t her. She basically refused to stay on set, so they had to hire a model. I’d heard she was pretty stoned or drunk the whole time. I don’t know if that’s true, but I sort of suspect it is, just given the reputation she had in the ‘80s.
Finally got around to it. I don't think it's a god awful abomination but yeah, it was really difficult to sit through and I just sorta gave up halfway through trying to look at it more analytically cause it made little sense to.
Hi again
@@mightyraccoon7155 yo
Actually Jim, my father who was the bassist of " My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult " did the music ( I don't think all of it) for Cool World
that's cool I don't think I said who did the music in this review. I actually really dug the music. thanks for letting me know
Sorry thought it be cool to mention, great review though
it's cool that's a really cool fact. Tell your dad He did an awesome job.
Sex On Wheelz has been in my head all day.
The music to this movie was the best part besides the animation. He did a great job!
I am low key obsessed with this movie. I have an unhealthy obsession with trainwrecks. You can SEE what it was supposed to be, but it's so warped and mangled that you can't call it a train anymore.
Fuck Cool World, Roger Rabbit is a lot more Cooler than That.
1:20 one of a kind original? It's a _roger rabbit_ rip off focusing on an adult version of toon town that has less (none) nudity than the original. Sure the current releases don't have any dirty parts in roger rabbit now, but Betty Boops boobs come out, Jessica rabbit flashes her boobs, Jessica rabbit spreads her legs in the car crash, and I wanna say there's one more with the hideous Jessica rabbit as well. The shading looks real in roger rabbit it, the cartoons are completely 2 dimensional in cool world. And oh yeah, what about _space jam?_ Same movie type, just far better. Hell, _Pete's dragon_ looked better. And _last action hero_ had a cartoon detective as well, I think.
Well at least you acknowledge those existing, but you still directly said this was a unique and one of a kind movie. You keep repeating the same phrases over and over, this is the perfect counterpart review for such a poor movie
Cool World? More like NOT-SO-COOL WORLD? Eh?
"...........You suck!"
I still watch Cool World. Every once in a while it's on HBO at 1 or 2 in the morning. Maybe it's just the kid in me that remembers watching a cartoon with adult themes. thanks Jim
Cool World? More like GHOUL World! Get it? Cuz Halloween is coming up and... nevermind...
It is the greatest movie of all time and I will hear nothing else about it. Get out!
This movie tried to much to be edgy, vulgar, it was nothing but a Terrible crude joke after another
Love this movie
i wrong bandicot
This movie just feels like it set the bar low for other live action animated hybrids to have the same effect of lame storytelling, weak/less than stellar acting, ultra cheaper effects, negative/mediocre reception, fail miserably, get ripped apart by critics, and compare it to Roger Rabbit or something.
This movie is forgettable and it’s the kiss of death for live action animated hybrids.
Bakshi set out to make the first animated horror movie and the studio totally fucked him by changing everything about his idea.
I'm not so certain it's that cut and dry. If he pitched the movie to the studio the same way he pitched it to the animators, which was "you get to work on the movie where an animator has sex with his creation," then it could be that the studio was fine when the budget was projected to be small, then it turned out that the actual budget would be mainstream level. According to Steve Moore more, Bakshi seems to relish chaos. Check out his article _My Meeting with Bakshi, or, Goodbye Cool World._
@@SirBlackReeds Interesting. I just know what Bakshi has stated in interviews which definitely needs to be taken with a teaspoon of salt, no question. He really is the original animated shit disturber. I will check out Steve Moore's article. Cheers mate, thanks for the input.
The movie and the story is bizarre but not that bad, I actually liked the theme of this "cool world", the style, Holli Would is a very atractive character and she's kinda memorable, it was going somewhere with Holli Would's plot but the ending was really bad and anti-climatic, when she killed Frank (Brad Pitt) the only character that actually had a bit of purpose in the whole movie and everything turned into cartoons, they just dropped the ball there, the world somehow returned to normal and both male actors got stuck in the cartoon world and they turned into cartoons themselves, it would have been cool for Jack (Gabriel Byrne) to kill Holli Would, his own creation and stop with his cartoon nonsense and madness because at the end of the day he was the one who created it, instead of dating his fictional creation, I really wanted him to have a better ending like dating his female neigboor, that girl who actually helped them drive to Las Vegas to stop Holli Would. But instead he turned into a corny super hero character, he ended being with Holli Would inside a comic and changed his voice for no f*cking reason.
Another bad turn for the movie, is when Frank died and revived in Cool World and the movie never cared to explain why he ended there in the first place and why he had that accident with his mother... a lot of interesting plots with no solutions or no conclusions at all. Just a mess of different ideas and concepts merged together into one bizarre outcome.
It was not the best story or the best characters but at least it could had a good ending.
Even when it wasn't the director's original idea it could have been a lot better movie and more well executed.
You should check out Steve Moore's article _My Meeting with Bakshi, or, Goodbye Cool World._
I wonder what clueless grandparents attempted renting the VHS back in the day thinking it was made by Disney for their grandkids.
THE TICK!
Hey I'm feeling better today but I'm still very tired and exhausted. Something that I have noticed about your review series at least the most recent ones is that when you get to the last movie a director has done or the last in a film series (at least the official ones or the theatrical ones) they tend to be bad or awful theres this, John Waters, then the Road movies I wonder who's going to be the next catastrophe.
I haven't seen this one mostly because I heard it was awful I've seen every Bakshi film except the Showtime one or the Last Days of Coney Island and well I don't want my last Bakshi film experience to be a giant piece of shit trainwreck. I tend to avoid bad movies from directors I like some may say that its bullshit I have to see all their filmography but when they disown it or regret it or when everyone agrees its bad and not that exagerrated its so bad don't ever watch it that you see on a bunch of top 10 lists but instead that yeah this crushed me inside and I died a little bad then I feel I don't need to watch it. If Bakshi ends up making another good film then maybe I'll take a stab at this but otherwise no. I will say that I found the original concept interesting but I still think that both the original name of the character that would become Holli Woud which was Debbie Dallas and the name they ended going with are a really lame names its like really thats the best you could come up with?
Anyways yay my essay comments made a comeback and no one cares yay. I'm being a bit of a prick in this comment and I apolagize but fuck these last three days have been stressful, painful, and just all around unpleasant so I'm a bit I don't know whats the word moody I guess can't come up with a better word I want to say sardonic but I have no idea what that means so moody it is. Well before I go I should say great review as always and just like asked a couple days ago and earlier today on the pizza party podcast comment section can you Spooky Jim wait out Juwanna Man until I come back from vacation I know I usually pester you for it but internet connection isn't the best in the Dominican Republic so I'll miss out on you doing the review and explaining to everyone how one lonely guy asked you to do it without end, and then seeing the three people who do comment on the video because nobody else cares about Juwanna Man talk about something else or just them stopping to say "Hey Jim I love you" or "Ask Pan blank Jim".
Shit I'm being a prick again sorry as I said its been a hard three days but hey a I at least got the Mermaid 2016 Jim review and a Cool World review as well so thats good anyways sorry for being a prick and have a good day. Oh yeah sorry for two essays instead of one but at least I gave you more than the last few times so yay?
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This world really doesn't seem that cool.
Ralph Bakshi is fucked in the head. Interesting art though
you have serious issues if you can't understand cool world
It isn't as bad a film as you tried to make it out to be. The story is pretty straightforward but I will agree, it has a lot of problems.
@Brandon Brooks blame the studio and kim basinger.
Well. I finally saw Cool World. This movie is the epitome of a mixed bag. The animation is great and the soundtrack is pretty good but the script is just a complete trainwreck due to studio meddling and rewrites courtesy of Frank Mancuso Jr.
its awsome movie just couse people like u dont like it - !!!!
No offense but your speaking voice gives me a headache.