Game of Thrones Season 8 - The Secret Plan of Varys

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  • @geistlos333
    @geistlos333 6 лет назад +11

    From the HBO perspective - this is spot on. From the book perspective - Varys is a Blackfyre - and the "Targaryen" he's attempting to put on the throne is his sister's son - Aemon Blackfyre (Ilyrio's kid by Sara) - which is why he was totes o.k. with the possibility of Danni getting whacked by assassins....Varys is a Blackfyre

  • @WingedHeron
    @WingedHeron 6 лет назад +49

    Wondering if the voice in the flames was Bran's

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +7

      +W. Heron I’m honestly leaning towards that

    • @paularamos2545
      @paularamos2545 6 лет назад

      niether ... its danys she spoke

  • @dronox2010
    @dronox2010 6 лет назад +24

    If this were true, I'd be very sad to see Varys go. He's such a complex character, portrayed beautifully by Conleth Hill.

  • @LL-xp2jb
    @LL-xp2jb 6 лет назад +46

    Great analysis, Max. And your prediction seems right. The only thing I question is that blue flame when his parts were burnt. It makes me wonder if he isn't somehow going to be burnt by Viserion's breath.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +3

      +L L Thank you so much! Yea the blue flame is up in the air but I assume Varys will die by fire through Dany. It seems like a natural next step to me

    • @SiberianSwordsman
      @SiberianSwordsman 6 лет назад +5

      Kinvara seemed to know what the voice in the flame said and who said it. That scared Varys. The voice was Dany's. The word that was spoken was dracarys. The last word Varys will hear at his execution.

    • @jamesbarlow6725
      @jamesbarlow6725 6 лет назад +1

      Adam Morgan I believe that he will definately die. The red priestest siad I will return to this continent to die as will you Varys.

    • @arisp.5726
      @arisp.5726 6 лет назад +7

      It'll be kinda funny if Varys does end up somehow betraying Danny and in turn she orders him to be burned alive...But he just casually ends up stepping out from out the flames, totally unscathed just as Danny herself has done twice before; reaveling that he's been shaving his head all this time to in fact hide his silver hair, a distinct feature that would mark him as a direct descendant from the "bastard" line of House Targaryan ...
      At the same time, it would finally kinda make sense as to why the sorcerer chose to purchase him in particular for the sacrifice -and not just pick up a stray street urchin for free- since king's blood would be needed for such sacrifice in ordee the conjuration to work, in the same manner the red priestess needed the blood of King Robert's bastard to be tossed in the flames for her incantations to work...

    • @katydeforest2788
      @katydeforest2788 6 лет назад +2

      Wow I love that theory seems logical

  • @mrsduncanthetall
    @mrsduncanthetall 6 лет назад +4

    omg for someone like me who has heard soooo many theories from altshift x gray area talking thrones last harpy etc...this is mind blowing cant believe no one arrived to this .its azi g and solid and i can totally see it happen i love the way you built your video very critical images nice work.im subscribing 😊

  • @Laseia12
    @Laseia12 6 лет назад +17

    I’m reading the books right now, I’ve seen the series a dozen times, & I read/watch theories pretty often, and I can honestly say I’ve never come to this conclusion about the spider before. It’s a pretty solid theory in all honesty. Thanks Max! I love your channel! Keep up the good work!

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      +Deondra Scott Thank you so much it means a lot!

    • @Laseia12
      @Laseia12 6 лет назад

      benzman500sl well valar morghulis! 😂

    • @bryceg73
      @bryceg73 2 года назад

      Nostalgia time!! How were the books?

    • @bryceg73
      @bryceg73 2 года назад

      @@Laseia12 how are the books?

    • @bryceg73
      @bryceg73 2 года назад

      @@BuzzTox Hope your doing well!

  • @palesasiko4861
    @palesasiko4861 6 лет назад +7

    My favorite channel ❤️❤️❤️ Amazing video once again. Please keep them coming

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      +Palesa Siko that means so much, thank you!!!

  • @goddyfame3424
    @goddyfame3424 6 лет назад +4

    Great video. I think the Lord Of Light is Brandon Stark. This is how I think everything is connected to Brandon Stark. TThe war had happened and the north were not prepared for it but bran was able to wag into the past and recruited the Three eyed Raven he later met. The three eyed raven told him he has come to recover what he had lost. So Brandon needed dragons so he appeared to the founder of the lord of Light through fire and so started the religion. He saw Dany walk into hot water unhurt so he got the red priestests give Dany the 3 dragon eggs. Also arranged the marriage between Drogo and Dany. Started the Brotherhood without banners. and I believe somehow setup the darewolves scene. Also got the Mad king to make wild fire and burn down the city with it because the Night king will fly South and turn the entire population of Kingslanding into Wights.

  • @anabento5029
    @anabento5029 6 лет назад +4

    After what he said to ?Kevin Lannister when he kill him, explaining why fAegon would be a better King. I can easily see him going to Jon's claim. But I believe Varys has kings blood, and what he heard in the flames my be a game changer. I agree with you Max. great video.

    • @GunninRebel55
      @GunninRebel55 5 лет назад

      What he said to Kevan Lannister proves he doesn't serve the realm.

  • @ralenehambicki4659
    @ralenehambicki4659 6 лет назад +5

    I still feel there is something more to Varys. He has not always been loyal to Targaryens. Most definitely not in the books and not on the show either. The books he was the one who informed the Mad King about Rhaegar wanting to hold council about removing his father from the throne. Rhaegar was good, kind and well liked. He would have been a great king for what Varys is claiming what he wants... peace/prosperity for the realm. In the show and books he supposedly supports a corrupt Viserys for the throne who would have been a horrible king. He is also the one who put the wheels in motion to have Dany and her unborn child killed in order to get Drogo and Viserys on the move to attack Kings Landing. Makes me wonder if Dany will learn about that lie he just told her and she fries him up.
    There has been many references to the fact that Varys might very well be a female pretending to be a male too. Although it could just be digs at the fact that he is a eunuch but then again... it could be a great twist. ❤️😫🔥

    • @ericwomack4584
      @ericwomack4584 6 лет назад +2

      Ralene Hambicki i agree with you Varys goes where the wind blows he is loyal only to himself... so i just have never trusted or liked him so i personally don't care of Dany kills him or not!

  • @m8trxd
    @m8trxd 6 лет назад +1

    "Royal Blood" makes the magic stronger.... I think that Varys is really Aegon V. He wasn't really a slave in Essos, he was traveling with Ser Duncan the Tall and somehow got tangled up with the Red Priests. He may not be a Eunuch after all.... supposedly fathering five children with his wife, Betha Blackwood..
    Here's my reasoning:
    - As a youth, Aegon V had a bald head and was nicknamed "Egg."
    - Aegon V has a long history of reforms and aid to the smallfolk:
    " Aegon seemed the logical choice but many lords considered him "half a peasant" due to his youth among the smallfolk."
    "Aegon's reign began during a harsh winter which lasted from 230 AC until 236 AC. The benevolent Aegon sent massive shipments of food and grain to aid starving northmen, though there were those who felt he provided too much aid."
    "Most of Aegon's troubles resulted from his efforts to improve the lives of the smallfolk, whom he had interacted with while squiring for Duncan. Although the smallfolk loved Aegon for his reforms and granting of rights and protections, high lords felt their powers over peasantry was diminished and curtailed by these new reforms."
    No one ever "saw" Aegon V die. He supposedly died during a mishap trying to hatch dragons. He may have reinvented himself... posing as a Eunuch to influence the future kings. Whatever his experience with the Red Priest as a youth, the voice that spoke to him in the flames gave him knowledge of the Long Night which was coming and his role in it. He may have always known that Viserys would never ascend to the throne and that young Dany would be the one to finally bring Dragons back into the world... the only defense that the living would have against the Night King.
    Sources:
    awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegon_V_Targaryen
    awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Aegon_V_Targaryen
    "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" - GG Martin

  • @maverickdracula6202
    @maverickdracula6202 Год назад +5

    It's not visually spoken but when you look at Jon Snow's face after watching Daenarys kill Varys..... I believe that's where he made his decision to kill Daenarys in the end.

  • @jamaisvu8365
    @jamaisvu8365 5 лет назад +8

    Spoiler alert 2 years in advance.

  • @jimmysjamin1
    @jimmysjamin1 5 лет назад +1

    Wow having not read any of the books I have no clue at all whats going to happen with Varys, but this explanation makes total sense to me good on you Bravos no pun intended !

  • @drewvuong
    @drewvuong Год назад +1

    What people fail to realize is the Lord of Light, is George R.R. Martin, toying with the characters.

  • @ivymoon1779
    @ivymoon1779 5 лет назад +2

    Where does it say "screaming?"

  • @finessence808
    @finessence808 6 лет назад +3

    Absolute perfection! I can't wait to see he gets caught.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      +finessence808 Thanks! Yea it’s the only way he could be killed that makes sense and is rewarding to the audience

  • @lydiaquinn2892
    @lydiaquinn2892 6 лет назад +1

    Rock solid and best theory video I've seen on Varys. Great work!

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      +Lydia Quinn thank you!

  • @gabzsy4924
    @gabzsy4924 Год назад +3

    Or you know...kill him off, make Jon scream at a dragon, leave 100 plots and stories unsolved and give major characters simple and idiotic endings.

  • @CRASS2047
    @CRASS2047 5 лет назад +1

    Dude! You are such a gifted editor! I am in love with this channel! You need to be editing for a show like GOT .

  • @malibuken2661
    @malibuken2661 6 лет назад +3

    I suppose in the end his betrayal may also turn Dany and Jon against one another or let Dany know for sure she will never be on the iron throne. She may realize this and sacrifice herself to Jon to fulfill the Azora Hai prophecy.

  • @hearthdraw8833
    @hearthdraw8833 6 лет назад +4

    varys is the third head of the dragon he will sacrifice his blood in the end to save the realm

  • @malibuken2661
    @malibuken2661 6 лет назад +1

    It's interesting Varys saw visions in a blue flame. Blue flames are associated with the Night King when Viserion breathed blue flames to bring the wall down.

  • @a.m.pietroschek1972
    @a.m.pietroschek1972 2 месяца назад

    Dear Lord Varys blamed sorcery, but could not anticipate to die by Dragon-Odem aka fire from another source. Best acting in the entire #GoT that spymaster.

  • @baltimorebottledigger3900
    @baltimorebottledigger3900 6 лет назад +4

    Well done! Thx for Sharing.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      +Relicfinds with Baltimorebottledigger Thanks!

  • @williameedubsix
    @williameedubsix 6 лет назад

    Your breakdown makes the last season seem better than it was.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      Well I'm glad you feel that way!

  • @s_shaleh
    @s_shaleh 6 лет назад +1

    Are you all mad? Dany and Jon are in love and Dany is most likely already carrying his child. So no matter who deserves the crown more, it's pretty much a given that they will both rule and they have already produced an heir to inherit it from them.

  • @coldtype64
    @coldtype64 Год назад +1

    Her destiny was to bring the army and the dragons along with Jon. John rules as king, they marry to stabilize the kingdoms. She didn’t see it. Was this aegons dream, that visarys was talking about in House of dragon ?

  • @RachelG1979
    @RachelG1979 6 лет назад +1

    Would be interesting to see if its like book varys. Jon let's his emotions drive him, he nearly got himself killed by Ramsey.

  • @kenparnell4297
    @kenparnell4297 5 лет назад

    Which makes no sense because just last episode Tyrion spoke to Jon about becoming King and Jon turn him down as well. So why does Varys get burned and Tyrion walk? Yes, yes, I know in last season Danni made Varys swear to never plot behind her back, but Tyrion did? So when does Tyrion, a counselor who's counsel is taken less and less often by the Queen he serves, still alive?

  • @nickr5311
    @nickr5311 6 лет назад

    Daenerys Targaryen is not the best for the realm, she is a villain. The only reason she has all this power is because the show runners obviously favor her and want her to win. They already messed up the show, the books are way better. Even though I don't really like Jon Snow all that much anymore, I'd rather him as king than Daenerys. Great video.

  • @magdalenamatysiak9006
    @magdalenamatysiak9006 6 лет назад +5

    i think voice in the blue fire was voice of night king

    • @MegaMerlin5
      @MegaMerlin5 6 лет назад

      but we don't even know if he does speak

    • @vfxnstuff9638
      @vfxnstuff9638 6 лет назад

      He does speak like ice crackling, it is known.

    • @GunninRebel55
      @GunninRebel55 5 лет назад

      It was BloodRaven.

  • @fulanspeaks7319
    @fulanspeaks7319 6 лет назад +1

    Good video. The only thing I don't understand is why people pit Jon vs Daenerys as if somehow they will be at odds with the people having to choose one or the other. From what we have seen, Jon and Dany are allies and Dany is likely pregnant with Jon's child. If they both live they will likely marry and rule together. Besides, Varys isn't really the type of guy whose loyalty Jon would even desire. Varys is the clever type character and Jon only respects people who keep their oaths. He would expect Varys to keep his oath to Daenerys

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      Thanks a lot man! I agree with your statement in the sense that they are in love and strong allies. However what my point is everything surrounding them is pulling them apart. An example would be Dany's mission to be Queen of Westerns, yet the rightful King of Westeros is Jon

    • @gerardjagroo
      @gerardjagroo 6 лет назад

      If she wants to be Queen and he is rightful King then the simple solution is marriage not bloodshed.They could be co-rulers like Queen Isabella of Castile and King Ferdinand of Aragon. _It could work_

  • @MarcAlcatraz
    @MarcAlcatraz 6 лет назад +5

    Dany is a fist, good for attacking established kingdoms and smashing chains
    Jon is an open hand, ready to hold a shield to protect others and to shake a friend's hand in trust
    this is their core differences, you can't rule seven kingdoms in tyranny or fear, you do it with respect and compromise.

    • @GunninRebel55
      @GunninRebel55 5 лет назад

      Dany isn't a fist but yeah that was very dramatic. How long did you work on it??

  • @marianasoto762
    @marianasoto762 6 лет назад +7

    With this vídeo i can really say that i havent thought about it until now. Varys described the perfect and rightfull ruller when he spoke with Tyrion because Jon Snow fits detailing oh his description. And great pronostic about hes ending game! Thanks!

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      +Mariana Soto thanks a lot, glad you liked it!

    • @bellarichards7753
      @bellarichards7753 6 лет назад

      Mariana Soto Nah, he was talking about Dany, Jon is a useless ruler and has no Political intelligence whatsoever

  • @jacesorragnain
    @jacesorragnain 2 года назад +1

    lol! if only danny didn't listen to them, just like what lady tyrell had told her, "she is a dragon, be a dragon". she would have survived. she can easily destroyed the red keep, kill john snow n everyone who defy her, but she didn't because she has a good heart. If u want to sit on the iron throne u need to play your own dirty cards, n do not listen to others if u have the 3 dragons , unsullied and the Dothraki combined, u r unstoppable.

  • @onuw
    @onuw 6 лет назад +1

    I think Arys went mad because Varys manipulated his paranoia - think about how Baelish's influence affected Lysa Aryn.
    I think he will try to help instigate a war between Dany and Jon.

  • @cartooningfanart
    @cartooningfanart 6 лет назад

    Varys says, "I choose YOU because I know the people have no better choice." ---In his eyes, Jon will become the "better" choice. No madness, magic, or dragons as far as he can tell. Jon is a dragon, but he has Ned's temperament which by Varys's standards would be a better choice. Varys seemed to genuinely like Ned.
    Varys swore to tell Dany if she was failing, but I think he will resort to what he knows and does best...secret undermining and manipulation.

  • @coryhafer7285
    @coryhafer7285 6 лет назад +2

    Masterfully done.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      +Malachite Nos thanks a lot!

  • @titojr8575
    @titojr8575 6 лет назад +8

    I think Jon will sacrifice himself for the death of the Night King and his unborn child.

  • @GunninRebel55
    @GunninRebel55 5 лет назад +1

    If you really believe Varys serves "the realm" you must haven't read the books. He's the same as Littlefinger just with a different approach. If he served the realm he would've freed and helped Ned. Who better for the realm than Ned? Cersei & Joffrey apparently.

    • @Hirnlego999
      @Hirnlego999 5 лет назад

      Yes, and I seem to recall that in the show when he and LF are talking about goals, ambitions etc Varys does actually look at the throne.
      But the show has ignored this for ages, I don't think we will see more of that but rather him dying this Sunday to Dany's dragonfire because she somehow loses her marbles.

  • @ak86db
    @ak86db 6 лет назад +1

    good video but please sync ur voice volume with the parts from got i almost landed of my chair so loud

  • @NJNUNEZ
    @NJNUNEZ 6 лет назад +1

    The voice could have been the 3 eyed raven. But somehow I believe Varys will betray someone in Season 8. He may shift his backing to Jon as opposed to Danny....

  • @wills.8662
    @wills.8662 6 лет назад +1

    Jon wouldn't want the Iron Throne
    The family members he lost in the South would make him desire to stay away.
    If he could arrange it Jon would keep his ancestry secret from the general public and stay in Winterfell as Warden in the North.

  • @victoriaberry5173
    @victoriaberry5173 6 лет назад

    I like this.. It makes sense. I didn't even put that together until I listened to this but I've been trying to figure Varys whole deal out. I think this is very very plausible.

  • @sallywalker2606
    @sallywalker2606 5 лет назад +3

    Deneres is a monster she is her father she burned the Tarlys .

  • @ericwomack4584
    @ericwomack4584 6 лет назад +15

    I don't have a problem with him dying because if he betrays her without coming to her to explain why he would choose Jon over her and trying to make Jon take the power over her from behind her back which we know Jon doesn't want to or have....so if this cause Varys his life so be it because he was warned about it from her.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +2

      +Eric Womack yea and it makes sense to me because Varys has no other choice. The odds are stacked in Jons favour and he doesn’t want to rule.
      I think he will have a vital role in forcing Jon into power and Dany will realize when it’s too late

    • @ericwomack4584
      @ericwomack4584 6 лет назад +3

      BuzzTox Jon will not take it and will defer it to her because he does believe she is the best to rule....now the only way i see him ruling is if she dies in child birth or if she defers to Jon

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      +Eric Womack I disagree man 😁 I’m working on my predictions but bottom line is I don’t think Jon will have a say because the people will already back him

    • @ericwomack4584
      @ericwomack4584 6 лет назад

      BuzzTox you might be right then i would assume that you believe Dany will have no choice but to defer to Jon....i know you have your predictions coming but i think the iron throne will be gone by the end anyway.

    • @03mai67
      @03mai67 6 лет назад +2

      BuzzTox I disagree If Varys dies it will be because of something that he does that would put her life in danger or something he did in the past maybe like have Willem Darry killed/ or plotting against Rhaegar.
      I don’t see Dany warring against Jon for the Throne. It is well explained in the books : there are 2 Dany, the one who wants to restore her family’s honor and the little girl who wants a simple life, who once envisioned to hand the crown to Daario.

  • @jham3124
    @jham3124 6 лет назад

    I can see it playing out like that. Good video.

  • @phyllislewis4393
    @phyllislewis4393 6 лет назад

    to me the bittersweet moment is when dany realize that jon does not want the ironthrone. tho it is his. i believe he jon gives it to her. the north is in his blood. it's who he is. though he is rhaegars son. he is a stark first and for all. holding inside the values and honor of his adoptive father. both in heart and mind. i think that's why she didn't touch the throne in her vision. it the throne is not hers. but she will receive it through jon. at least thats my hope. thats the battle dany will have to fight and win within herself for her and jon can truly be together as one. just thinking.

  • @takb.
    @takb. Год назад +2

    This show used to be so good smh

  • @davesnyder4231
    @davesnyder4231 5 лет назад +1

    Why cant they rule together

  • @christophertracy7272
    @christophertracy7272 6 лет назад +4

    I think Varys betrayed DANY already, how did Euron know where her ships were TWICE!

  • @JMHoffmarn
    @JMHoffmarn 6 лет назад +2

    I can't watch this. You've put more thought into Varys' character in an 8 minute youtube vid than the show runners did in all of season 7. I'm not trying to shit on your theories and your thinking here, I appreciate it, I do, but the sad fact is that great players like Varys and Littlefinger have been relegated to background characters to occasionally spout a pithy line of dialog and then be eaten by a dragon or killed by a faceless girl. The show can't mix their realpolitik with the new and unrealistic fantasy lilt they're going for, and they've gotten too lazy to try. I hope I'll be proven wrong, but I doubt it.

  • @omni-slashingnumbawon4215
    @omni-slashingnumbawon4215 6 лет назад +1

    Pretty good video. Dany and jon, the only way is marriage.

  • @elduchesne1503
    @elduchesne1503 6 лет назад

    Interesting point of view . I think your theory support more the show then the book I would say. I kind of like it for show supporters only. For the books supporters I would say it is a bit more complexe

  • @BeeSweet16
    @BeeSweet16 Месяц назад

    Fuck the HBO writing then. They should have more seasons and/or put him as the ruler of the seven kingdoms

  • @mikesedits9641
    @mikesedits9641 6 лет назад

    Dany will not end up on the Iron Throne because she wants it too much. Jon will end up on the Iron Throne because it will need him. George said the ending will be bittersweet so this is how it must be. Dany will work so hard but will never achieve what she wants most and Jon will be forced to bear the burden.

    • @Hendrix-lg9dn
      @Hendrix-lg9dn 2 месяца назад

      How much worse was it than we expected lol

  • @AndrewsArachnids
    @AndrewsArachnids 6 лет назад

    anyone else think varys might have royal blood of some lineage? why would a sorcerer buy him for an astronomical price? he could have bought any old slave boy to chop his wingwang off. Maybe before varys got cut he didnt shave his head, and maybe he had silver hair. and boom the bad guy was like "oh snap" and balled out buying him.

  • @ALIKN1-1
    @ALIKN1-1 2 года назад +1

    So varys think of Tommon and Stannis as good choices and yet he betrayed both ......

    • @pikantus4540
      @pikantus4540 2 года назад

      no he wanted someone who was both.

  • @jckm3869
    @jckm3869 6 лет назад +1

    If someone ripped my junk, I'll imagine, hear, and see all.

  • @summer8856
    @summer8856 6 лет назад

    Varys said the voice answered. He never said anything about screaming.

  • @deborahkogan8742
    @deborahkogan8742 6 лет назад +1

    You have it!

  • @oliviamcgrath6320
    @oliviamcgrath6320 6 лет назад

    omg that light bulb moment.

  • @dtt1900
    @dtt1900 6 лет назад

    What if Jon was not born at the tower of Joy? It could be Hotpie...I know mind BLOWN!

  • @batman4329
    @batman4329 6 лет назад

    Since, Varys is missing his root and stem, does he have to squat over the chamber pot?

    • @kuatojones6950
      @kuatojones6950 2 года назад

      Eunuchs have a straw like device that they pee through, in the books varys smells like perfume and piss.

  • @dmgwary4682
    @dmgwary4682 6 лет назад +1

    makes a load of sense

  • @tommyortiz6114
    @tommyortiz6114 6 лет назад

    I feel like there’s not even those in the series to explain all the unexplained things

  • @caraanderson5961
    @caraanderson5961 2 года назад

    Queen Dany should have went back with the Dothraki and Let Jon rule the Seven kingdoms with Sansa as Warden of the North. Bran should have returned back north as the three eyed Raven and stayed there

  • @MeezCheese
    @MeezCheese 5 лет назад

    Varys is a Black Fire. He can’t be burned. Daenerys will try but she will see that her dragon’s fire won’t kill him. Varys has the true claim to the throne! Mic drop 🎤

    • @GunninRebel55
      @GunninRebel55 5 лет назад

      Oh please! He already got his dick and nuts burnt in a brazier. Think about it. 😂😂😂

  • @captainsensiblejr.
    @captainsensiblejr. Год назад

    The tragedy of Varys was to be destroyed by the one he served.

  • @matta5498
    @matta5498 6 лет назад +2

    Daenerys and Jon will be wed. The Targareyn have no problem with incest.

    • @electrohead8225
      @electrohead8225 6 лет назад

      But Daenerys knows incest is why her father became known as the mad king, She may very well have a problem with it.

    • @matta5498
      @matta5498 6 лет назад

      In season 1 they say the Targareyn's have been marrying their sisters for over 300 years to keep the bloodline pure. I haven't read the books, but my understanding is the mad king just descended into madness as a normal disease, maybe some might say it was a curse of incest, but since it doesn't appear to be a pattern, I don't think Daenerys would give it any credence.

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 6 лет назад

      Taragaryens marry Brother and Sister, Cousin and Cousin, sometimes Uncle and Niece and few times Aunt and Nephew.

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 6 лет назад

      if was descended into madness is cause by marry sister and brother why wasn't Aemon or Rheagar MAD?.

  • @Ash.Crow.Goddess
    @Ash.Crow.Goddess 5 лет назад

    Excellent insight!

  • @Jessica-wy6eb
    @Jessica-wy6eb 6 лет назад

    excellent well thought out.

  • @PrivateRye
    @PrivateRye 6 лет назад +1

    HBO story is pretty good, book v so much better...the baby swap he and Ned did is the ultimate plot twist. Hopefully Jon meets his mom(Ashara Dayne) in the book v.

    • @sophiawilson8696
      @sophiawilson8696 6 лет назад

      wow I thought I only one who believe Ashara Dayne is mother of Jon Snow

    • @PrivateRye
      @PrivateRye 6 лет назад

      Sophia Wilson I'm just realizing how George wrote with hints and riddles in plain sight. A Jon snow parents=Ned and Ashara + Lyanna and Rhaegar baby still alive traveling w/Jon C, Ashara and others ending in the books with be great

  • @NinjaOnANinja
    @NinjaOnANinja 6 лет назад

    I don't think he will lose his life. Jon is on the same team as she. If anything, he will follow her as she follows him.
    That said, it pisses me off that they based jon off of me and who I am. Had I a better upbringing and having not become disabled, we would be exactly the same. I would have went military and got out to be a streamer and gotten huge. Because ego I am and what I do. Test me. I dare you.

  • @xman870096
    @xman870096 6 лет назад

    Very insightful, I suspect you will be proven right......

  • @JAFKennedy
    @JAFKennedy 5 лет назад

    Interesting Idea . However in the books he is working toward putting his sister's son ( a Blackfire raised to believe he is a Targaren & rightful heir to the Iron throne ) on the throne

    • @brentwyrick3300
      @brentwyrick3300 Год назад

      Who?
      I hope you don't mean Aegon the True Heir. Aegon Targaryen son of Rhaegar saved by Varys. Raised by Jon Connington the one and only rightful heir to the Iron Throne?

    • @JAFKennedy
      @JAFKennedy Год назад

      @@brentwyrick3300 nope he is a fake . However neither he nor his protector know it . The guy who sold the spider [ who along with an older brother & sister were the last known surviving members of the house Blackfire ] to a priest of ralor later sold his older sister to be a bed slave . When his now very fat friend was still young & handsome as well as a rich widower he tract his buddy's sister down bought her freedom & fell in love with her . They had a son they named Agon . When she was dieing of that illness that turns you to stone , he made her a death bed promise . He swore to put he son on the iron throne . Every thing he & his brother In-Law have done since then was working toward that end . He even intended to use the dragon queen to help . If they married , while striving for the throne it would put an end to the ➗ between the two lines , with the Blackfire line secretly dominating !

    • @brentwyrick3300
      @brentwyrick3300 Год назад

      @@JAFKennedy I don't actually believe that at all. Honestly I'm one of the few that don't believe Aegon is Faegon. I also still believe Job Snow is Ned's son

  • @natolotranirine6653
    @natolotranirine6653 8 месяцев назад

    well explained!!!...

  • @johnfriedgen357
    @johnfriedgen357 6 лет назад

    Ether dracarys or the stretch of the night king telling Viserion to burn him.

  • @moenix727
    @moenix727 6 лет назад

    Stannis also saw a vision...how did it work out for him?

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      +Moe Nix He was given access into the flames and has still had a significant impact on Jon Snow.

    • @antoniodee7245
      @antoniodee7245 6 лет назад +1

      Moe Nix Well he aint dead in the books yet...

  • @johnathanpage3503
    @johnathanpage3503 2 года назад

    Very well said

  • @martijn7416
    @martijn7416 Месяц назад

    Spoilers: Varys rides the Cannibal

  • @irsmohsen4833
    @irsmohsen4833 Год назад

    good job

  • @Joseph-rh7yu
    @Joseph-rh7yu 3 года назад

    “What voice? Voice in the what..?” - D&D victims of Alzheimer’s

  • @aaronirieknight6210
    @aaronirieknight6210 6 лет назад

    She's already on Jon's side so I think he will conspire some other way to betray her

  • @YudYud72
    @YudYud72 6 лет назад +1

    Nice

  • @tommihuotari4833
    @tommihuotari4833 2 года назад +2

    Well that didn't age well.

  • @theresapelegano7542
    @theresapelegano7542 5 лет назад

    Jon is the only choice. If another is chosen it’s lame

  • @talebtb2461
    @talebtb2461 6 лет назад

    she has 40000 dothraky, 8000 unsullied and 2 fully grown dragons !!!!!!! and yet you say all her allies are loyal to jon, he only has the north and the vail wich is around 40000 soldiers at best!!!!!!
    2 dragons can win that fight easily, just look at the field of fire

  • @ThankYou2NE1
    @ThankYou2NE1 Месяц назад

    she should have killed Jon when she had the chance

  • @8span
    @8span 2 месяца назад

    So a theory saying Varys might of been a bastard tageryen cause he always had a shaved head

  • @czito
    @czito 6 лет назад

    It IS because of the kind of man Jon is.

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      your right it is :P I talk about that in my Azor Ahai video. I just wanted to approach this not as biased.

  • @malibuken2661
    @malibuken2661 6 лет назад

    I'm sure Varys will learn the truth and support Jon Snow over Danareys.

  • @mariiie.B
    @mariiie.B 3 года назад

    I still think people would follow jon and not daenerys because of her gender. Men had more respect in history.

  • @QueenMellaGaming
    @QueenMellaGaming 6 лет назад

    First off that’s too deep dany isn’t like that she has jon mental and emotionally Now even if the truth comes to light stark blood in him made a vow to even if this comes out jon won’t go back on his word that’s not who he is he will allow her to rule but it don’t matter who rules they are ruling together now dany will marry jon because power is all she seek he just want his ppl token care for of together it works jon can tell dany what to do with harsh truth and she can take cause she knows he isn’t trying to offend her and she can give him a love he needs beyond war and fighting they don’t care who rules anymore because they both want the same thing and they both done it well dany is in love she’s not even worry about Queen status because they both will come to a arrangement for marriage

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад +1

      I don't think Jon will want to be king and he will remain loyal to Dany. The problem is the people will support one person or the other. That will dictate who will rule the 7 kingdoms

    • @QueenMellaGaming
      @QueenMellaGaming 6 лет назад

      BuzzTox right! But jon will be like I chosen dany to rule and they have to follow her but dany wants jon as her king so regardless they rule together dany loves jon . Jon being family she will be happy he rules cause they still family if worse came to worse

  • @findingninno
    @findingninno 6 лет назад

    Good video

  • @elfornicador11
    @elfornicador11 6 лет назад

    Jon snow not impulsive? Did you watch the battle of the bastards?

    • @BuzzTox
      @BuzzTox  6 лет назад

      Yea but i would attribute that with his honour and moral compass more than impulsiveness

    • @elfornicador11
      @elfornicador11 6 лет назад

      Men, i don't know. If i have to pick up a character that doesn't really think things thorrowly it would be him.
      He has many possitive things, but this is not one of them, i think.
      When olly called him and then stabbed him, he answered the call right away..put cersei or little finger in that situation...they would be like..."hold on...what's going on here?"
      When he goes to talk to Mance Rayder... why? no fucking reason... again, impulsive, i think.
      Joining the night's watch in the first place... or attacking the WW instead of climbing on the fucking dragon to get out of there in the last season.
      Maybe impulsive is not the word. Maybe he is just dumb. Or maybe he is overshadowed by moral.
      I don't know. What do you think? I mean he isn't really smart, don't you think?

  • @DEE-305
    @DEE-305 6 лет назад +22

    But i feel Daenerys will herself support Jon. She wants to have the throne as a Targareyn not for herself. And if she finds out that Jon is a Targareyn and the rightful heir, i think she will support him as she knows that he is kind and brave.

    • @bellarichards7753
      @bellarichards7753 6 лет назад +7

      enRiQe iglEsias The Iron throne belong to Daenerys Targaryen end of debate. No way should Dany gives up her claim to someone who is about to found out that he's half targaryen. Daenerys brought her house back from ruin while jon was off being a stark, Jon has done absolutely nothing for house Targaryen to be called the rightful heir. Plus it's going to be Daenerys forces who Defeat the night king forces in the end, Jon sand barely has an army. So Daenerys is the one with all the power and she should never give up her claim to some guy she just met. Its not like Jon can do anything about it , All Dany has to do is say dracerys and Jon is toast. Also Danys claim is stronger than Jon's because Viserys was made heir by the mad king over rhaegers children and Daenerys was Viserys heir.

    • @jacobwhelan45
      @jacobwhelan45 6 лет назад +12

      Bella Richards something to bare in mind is that legitimate sons come first then daughters then bastard and because Rhaegar married Lyanna that makes Jon a legitimate Targaryan son which comes before Dany in the pecking order. Whether Dany supports it or not is up for debate but we will see next year.

    • @DEE-305
      @DEE-305 6 лет назад +1

      Bella Richards Dany is not going to give up her claim for Jon. Noooo no!!
      She will do it to break the wheel.
      Dany should do what makes her the most happy. I don't think ruling gives her enjoyment. She loves to free people. She is breaker of chains.
      And this system needs a change.
      They need to follow a system like the wildlings followed, they choose Mance Raider or what the Night's watch follows .. elections.
      And as far as Jon is considered he doesn't wants to be the King. If he ends up being, which i think is way too obvious and won't happen.... it will be because of his nature and his deeds... not because he is a Targareyn. Being a Targareyn is an excuse as far as he is considered.
      I think him being Targareyn is more related to how he can get Dany pregnant of all others and for continuation of the Targareyn Race. And for being Ice and fire.

    • @DEE-305
      @DEE-305 6 лет назад +1

      Jacob Whelan Jon does come before Dany as far as succession is concerned. But if Jon gives up the claim which he can do as far as his nature is concerned, it will go to Dany.
      But I don't see Dany having a problem either with Jon's claim.

    • @bellarichards7753
      @bellarichards7753 6 лет назад +6

      Jacob Whelan Dany is still the rightful heir, The mad king made Visery his new heir and crown prince after the death of Rheager at the battle of the trident bypassing all of Rheagers children. Visery made Dany his heir and princess of Dragonstone after the death of the mad king. Jon lost his claim the second Aerys made Visery his new heir, Dany is the rightful heir not jon. You can't have two lines of succession. Something D&D clearly missed from the books, if GRRM says Dany is the rightful heir, I will side with him over D&D

  • @Shiloh-yg9vh
    @Shiloh-yg9vh 6 лет назад

    Maybe it'll save his life

  • @hamarbiljungskile8953
    @hamarbiljungskile8953 6 лет назад

    Wait, you actually believe he has the smallfolk's best interest in heart?

    • @ShawnMendesisDatingSatan
      @ShawnMendesisDatingSatan 6 лет назад +1

      yeah i think that's his ploy but i feel like in reality he is self serving. We get so many small hints in the show that he isn't as benevolent as he likes his friends to think he is.