This is so crazy because I've experienced something similar to this. I was an RA (resident advisor) in one of the dorms I lived in many years ago when I was in college. One of the other RAs was a guy named Kevin Kleber. He seemed like a totally normal, chill dude at the time. Fast forward a few years later and I hear a terrible story about how someone "robbed" him and killed his dad when his dad came to help him move to Florida for a dream job he was supposedly offered with Disney after graduation. Turns out, Kevin had dropped outta school years prior and was living off his parents and lying to them about still being in school. At the end of his ruse when he "graduated", he had his father come help him move to Florida for his supposed dream job with Disney. While his dad was helping him pack, instead of being a man and being honest about lying to his parents for years, he shot and killed his own father while they were packing. He then lied and said some random black guy "robbed" them and shot and killed his father while they were packing. The police found out the truth and arrested and charged him with murder within a few days. It's crazy the lengths some people will go to in order to hide the truth. Just Google "Kevin Kleber murder" if you want to know the full story. Shit is wild.
Wow. It really takes a special kind of scumbag to not only lie to their parents for years but then to straight up murder their own father just because they don't want to risk getting exposed for their lies.
@@teamtx1578 It was indeed wild. I spent about a week or so having an existential crisis thinking about how close I was to a killer. It made me recount almost every interaction I had with him thinking "if I had said or done something at some point to upset him, would he have killed me?" It still gives me chills thinking about it to this day.
The love of money is the root of all evil. This is also why there are no bigger sins than others. The lying led to killing. He could have just stopped while he was ahead. He would rather kill his dad than loose his love and respect? This guy is something else. Very ungrateful.
@@minitwink16 Indeed. Ungrateful isn't even the world for it. I think that people who do what he did have to be somewhat downright sociopathic/psychotic to some degree. It's the only way I can rationalize why he did what he did.
Man this is the ultimate betrayal to his parents. All because he won't grow up or take any responsibility. Yes his parents would've been mad if he told the truth but they would've came up with a solution and worked around it.
Exactly. Even when I hit a couple of pretty massive road bumps when I was in college, my parents always supported me. I remember when I had to call my parents and tell them that because my professional and supporting field credits had not been completed, I wasn't going to be able to graduate on time and that I was going to need at least 2 extra semesters to finish my undergrad. Obviously, they weren't thrilled by the news but they told me that they still supported me and they were glad that I had told them. If Chandler had actually been even the slightest bit honest with his parents, they would've done everything they could to help him turn his life around but because he was too much of a coward and a bum to take any responsibility, both of his parents are gone and he'll be stuck in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
@@teamtx1578 to add on to that his girlfriend stayed with him after what happened definitely would've been forgiven, man all the support that people around the world would envy
The ironic part is that his now ex girlfriend was the one that told police she had suspicions about Chandler because he kept leaving the house during that weekend, being in the neighborhood but just between the bushes and stuff. He was getting rid of evidence and body parts while she was staying with him. She just didn’t suspect that, being young and probably naive. There is a long video on RUclips of her being interrogated and her testimony in court. It’s really sad. She must be traumatized as well, knowing what was going on…
The case you was talking about that Mr Ballin touched on was the guy who was a bank robber and met this girl that supported him no matter what. He was afraid to tell his family and his fiance that he quit school and lost that job he didn't work at all. His mom was going to tell his fiance the truth so he killed her and his two brothers with a crossbow and chased his third brother outside.
The sheer amount of energy and thought that it takes a person to do all of that just to live on their parents couch and be a bum..LORD HAVE MERCY! Talk about a life wasted. I guess he had nothing but do wrong in him. No get right at all.
Yea. I mean I understand having to live with your parents in the world these days, hell it is just fine. Pay rent and help around the house whatever. But to make up a lie on that level is beyond stupid and he was not even smart about it.
i be like that with my mother i be asking questions where you going when you coming back this a dangerous world out here especially for the elderly women and children
I was a below average student in hs and barely got by cuz I was good at sports, then I got on academic probation in 2 different community colleges and was actually kicked out because of how poor I did. For the next 10 years I was in an academic limbo lying to my parents because I was so scared they would be disappointed in me. Needless to say I never thought to kill them.. I finally came clean and actually I just graduated with honors with a B.S. in chemistry and am actually headed to grad school to pursue my PhD in organic chemistry. We all make mistakes.. but killing is never the answer smh..
this piss me off dude not only killed his parents but lied about working i work from home as a political call agent also as what you see in my username they need too put him under the jail what a disgrace
To me which striped as weird in suspicious is the story of his parents having bags packed with money? That's what then, then the second one is the fact that you said they were meeting friends, but didn't tell you who the friends were. Then the third thing was, you know? May you take your parents left the house. But the car is still there, they're bad to gone. And you didn't any point, think? Hey, let me try and call my parents and see where they are. Let me call or talk to a neighbor and ask around to see if anybody sees my parents. And that's how I figured he did something. It's really sad The amount of stories in which a person can parents just because something that they were supposed to do didn't Pan out like they were supposed to go to specific college or start a new job. And it didn't work out for whatever reason, and instead of just being on, and so they're parents, their entire family, friends or their partner, they decide to kill them instead. What is so bad that you need to kill a person? Instead of just telling them the truth if you parents have supported you and pretty much everything you've ever done in your life, why would you think that they would not be supportive if defining out that you lost your dream job or that you failed your classes if anything they probably would've said it's? Oh k, you can always try again. Always have it back up plan, but no, you didn't wanna do that also, instead of trying to get a better job or find something that works for you, that makes you money. You're stealing money from your own family. Say, that's really sad, and then to lie and accuse someone else of a crime that you committed to so you wouldn't get caught is disgusting
Oh i thought Chandler was gonna be the negative (Fell or pushed) 14:28 do not say they're abandoning him because they don't want to care for him Or leave him to some kind of attack Before that when she said "friends are picking us up" i figured theyre gone forever and into a trap 19:33...Nah. 20:52 Threatened into not telling? Did that text say Tuesday night? If its any time Tuesday then it's from someone who doesnt know their shift 22:25 ...Theyre working with someone up there?? Or mystery friends had heard about the cabin, saw the weather and made it match ir 28:40 oh okay since he was home alone the account 39:22 and it answers my mental question about how he showed up at a door without his cane ( 50:16 thinking about doing the same rn is nauseating Every comment starts lagging and makes it hard to edit*
The most unbelievable part of the story was when Ballen said "ordinary middle class family" at the start of the video. Middle class? I see millionaires walking around the gas station more often than I see a middle class person 😂😂😂 you either dirt poor or you employ the dirt poor!
I could'nt even pretend to be sick. And here is this Guy, playing "perfect life". I dont think he did it becouse he was too lazy to get a Job. A Psychologist said that people like that have a Lot of Pride and Inferiority Complex. Remember he had an older Brother with a great Life. He was jealous!
Or maybe he was a psychopath with a superiority complex, that felt like his absence of success was an injustice against him. His lines of actions and reasonings were perfectly in line with psychopathology, so I'm leaning more towards that. They don't have a sense of moral vs. immoral. Rather they make choices based on whether it gets them closer to what they want or further from it. The father finding out about his lies (which he relied on to retain his outwards image of being a victim as opposed to incapable, which the narcissism of a psychopath can't handle) lead to the only "logical" course of action being to murder him and subsequently his mother. Of course I'm just speculating out loud. Based on similar cases with psychopaths though, it just seems much more in line to me than an envious non-psychopath with an inferiority complex. Edit: Probably sociopath rather than psychopath, come to think of it. I always mix up the two terms...
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14:37 The way you looked at Cee, like "Girl dont copy me"😂
Lmao I noticed that too 🤣
This is so crazy because I've experienced something similar to this. I was an RA (resident advisor) in one of the dorms I lived in many years ago when I was in college. One of the other RAs was a guy named Kevin Kleber. He seemed like a totally normal, chill dude at the time. Fast forward a few years later and I hear a terrible story about how someone "robbed" him and killed his dad when his dad came to help him move to Florida for a dream job he was supposedly offered with Disney after graduation. Turns out, Kevin had dropped outta school years prior and was living off his parents and lying to them about still being in school. At the end of his ruse when he "graduated", he had his father come help him move to Florida for his supposed dream job with Disney. While his dad was helping him pack, instead of being a man and being honest about lying to his parents for years, he shot and killed his own father while they were packing. He then lied and said some random black guy "robbed" them and shot and killed his father while they were packing. The police found out the truth and arrested and charged him with murder within a few days. It's crazy the lengths some people will go to in order to hide the truth. Just Google "Kevin Kleber murder" if you want to know the full story. Shit is wild.
Wow. It really takes a special kind of scumbag to not only lie to their parents for years but then to straight up murder their own father just because they don't want to risk getting exposed for their lies.
@@teamtx1578 It was indeed wild. I spent about a week or so having an existential crisis thinking about how close I was to a killer. It made me recount almost every interaction I had with him thinking "if I had said or done something at some point to upset him, would he have killed me?" It still gives me chills thinking about it to this day.
The love of money is the root of all evil. This is also why there are no bigger sins than others. The lying led to killing. He could have just stopped while he was ahead. He would rather kill his dad than loose his love and respect? This guy is something else. Very ungrateful.
@@minitwink16 Indeed. Ungrateful isn't even the world for it. I think that people who do what he did have to be somewhat downright sociopathic/psychotic to some degree. It's the only way I can rationalize why he did what he did.
I feel bad for the other brother. I cant imagine finding out that your parents were killed by your own brother. That would destroy me
Man this is the ultimate betrayal to his parents. All because he won't grow up or take any responsibility. Yes his parents would've been mad if he told the truth but they would've came up with a solution and worked around it.
Right
Exactly. Even when I hit a couple of pretty massive road bumps when I was in college, my parents always supported me. I remember when I had to call my parents and tell them that because my professional and supporting field credits had not been completed, I wasn't going to be able to graduate on time and that I was going to need at least 2 extra semesters to finish my undergrad. Obviously, they weren't thrilled by the news but they told me that they still supported me and they were glad that I had told them. If Chandler had actually been even the slightest bit honest with his parents, they would've done everything they could to help him turn his life around but because he was too much of a coward and a bum to take any responsibility, both of his parents are gone and he'll be stuck in a prison cell for the rest of his life.
@@teamtx1578 to add on to that his girlfriend stayed with him after what happened definitely would've been forgiven, man all the support that people around the world would envy
You literally don’t know his parents to even say that dumb shit lmao
The ironic part is that his now ex girlfriend was the one that told police she had suspicions about Chandler because he kept leaving the house during that weekend, being in the neighborhood but just between the bushes and stuff. He was getting rid of evidence and body parts while she was staying with him. She just didn’t suspect that, being young and probably naive. There is a long video on RUclips of her being interrogated and her testimony in court. It’s really sad. She must be traumatized as well, knowing what was going on…
The case you was talking about that Mr Ballin touched on was the guy who was a bank robber and met this girl that supported him no matter what. He was afraid to tell his family and his fiance that he quit school and lost that job he didn't work at all. His mom was going to tell his fiance the truth so he killed her and his two brothers with a crossbow and chased his third brother outside.
If he would of put all of the effort he put into all of his lies he would of been able to keep a full time job.
Definitely., Ironically, it was more work lying than an actually job. smh.
Some people will do all the work in the world to find an excuse to be lazy.
When he showed the "modest, small home" LUL me not being from the USA: "That's a small home???" xD
Are you from the UK?
I'm from the UK
The sheer amount of energy and thought that it takes a person to do all of that just to live on their parents couch and be a bum..LORD HAVE MERCY! Talk about a life wasted. I guess he had nothing but do wrong in him. No get right at all.
Yea. I mean I understand having to live with your parents in the world these days, hell it is just fine. Pay rent and help around the house whatever. But to make up a lie on that level is beyond stupid and he was not even smart about it.
@@minuette1752 Facts!
I remember hearing this case before MrBallen did it. But he describes things so well, that it sounded like a different case entirely
i be like that with my mother
i be asking questions
where you going
when you coming back
this a dangerous world out here
especially for the elderly women and children
Damn, that’s real-life Keyser Soze from The Usual Suspects. That’s why you have to watch people.
It took a second, but I remember this. Watched the actual trial
14:37 y’all look like robots, copying each other’s movements 😂
I was a below average student in hs and barely got by cuz I was good at sports, then I got on academic probation in 2 different community colleges and was actually kicked out because of how poor I did. For the next 10 years I was in an academic limbo lying to my parents because I was so scared they would be disappointed in me. Needless to say I never thought to kill them.. I finally came clean and actually I just graduated with honors with a B.S. in chemistry and am actually headed to grad school to pursue my PhD in organic chemistry. We all make mistakes.. but killing is never the answer smh..
those shirts are fire
I can't believe they didn't know about this case, it was all over the internet.
So in conclusion he killed his family cause he didn’t want too get his life together
Some people are just born evil :(
this piss me off
dude not only killed his parents but lied about working
i work from home as a political call agent
also as what you see in my username
they need too put him under the jail
what a disgrace
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To me which striped as weird in suspicious is the story of his parents having bags packed with money? That's what then, then the second one is the fact that you said they were meeting friends, but didn't tell you who the friends were. Then the third thing was, you know? May you take your parents left the house. But the car is still there, they're bad to gone. And you didn't any point, think? Hey, let me try and call my parents and see where they are. Let me call or talk to a neighbor and ask around to see if anybody sees my parents. And that's how I figured he did something.
It's really sad The amount of stories in which a person can parents just because something that they were supposed to do didn't Pan out like they were supposed to go to specific college or start a new job. And it didn't work out for whatever reason, and instead of just being on, and so they're parents, their entire family, friends or their partner, they decide to kill them instead. What is so bad that you need to kill a person? Instead of just telling them the truth if you parents have supported you and pretty much everything you've ever done in your life, why would you think that they would not be supportive if defining out that you lost your dream job or that you failed your classes if anything they probably would've said it's? Oh k, you can always try again. Always have it back up plan, but no, you didn't wanna do that also, instead of trying to get a better job or find something that works for you, that makes you money. You're stealing money from your own family. Say, that's really sad, and then to lie and accuse someone else of a crime that you committed to so you wouldn't get caught is disgusting
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Oh i thought Chandler was gonna be the negative
(Fell or pushed)
14:28 do not say they're abandoning him because they don't want to care for him
Or leave him to some kind of attack
Before that when she said "friends are picking us up" i figured theyre gone forever and into a trap
19:33...Nah.
20:52 Threatened into not telling?
Did that text say Tuesday night? If its any time Tuesday then it's from someone who doesnt know their shift
22:25 ...Theyre working with someone up there?? Or mystery friends had heard about the cabin, saw the weather and made it match ir
28:40 oh okay since he was home alone the account
39:22 and it answers my mental question about how he showed up at a door without his cane (
50:16 thinking about doing the same rn is nauseating
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The most unbelievable part of the story was when Ballen said "ordinary middle class family" at the start of the video. Middle class? I see millionaires walking around the gas station more often than I see a middle class person 😂😂😂 you either dirt poor or you employ the dirt poor!
Ahhh yesssssss
Y'all read my mind w this upload.
Should I be scared?
I could'nt even pretend to be sick. And here is this Guy, playing "perfect life".
I dont think he did it becouse he was too lazy to get a Job. A Psychologist said that people like that have a Lot of Pride and Inferiority Complex. Remember he had an older Brother with a great Life.
He was jealous!
Or maybe he was a psychopath with a superiority complex, that felt like his absence of success was an injustice against him. His lines of actions and reasonings were perfectly in line with psychopathology, so I'm leaning more towards that. They don't have a sense of moral vs. immoral. Rather they make choices based on whether it gets them closer to what they want or further from it. The father finding out about his lies (which he relied on to retain his outwards image of being a victim as opposed to incapable, which the narcissism of a psychopath can't handle) lead to the only "logical" course of action being to murder him and subsequently his mother.
Of course I'm just speculating out loud. Based on similar cases with psychopaths though, it just seems much more in line to me than an envious non-psychopath with an inferiority complex.
Edit: Probably sociopath rather than psychopath, come to think of it. I always mix up the two terms...
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