It's my belief that running such a young horse so many times led to the breakdown of her young bones that had a long way to go before they had hardened and matured. Her first injury should have been a clue that more was to come if she continued to be stressed so consistently. Being an unusually large horse didn't help either. Racing a horse younger than three should be done minimally, which I believe it is today. Ruffian came along too early.
Sadly this mare was bred to break down. Her sire broke down 4 times her dam broke down once. That bloodline is still dying on the track. Eight belles was another one. But they will keep breeding these powerful engines on champagne glass ankles and legs.
@@vwyldrose1153 desperately and sadly true. Conformationally, Ruffian was lovely, aside from one thing: her legs and joints were far too tiny to support her massive 17hh frame. That off foreleg isn’t straight either - it’s either back at the knee or over. In almost every image, that leg foretells what would be likely to happen under too much pressure. She was built for speed, but she wasn’t built to be able to physically cope with it. :(
I disagree that running to many times was the cause of her breakdown. Also disagree with age. I have seen horses at 5 and 6 breakdown. Look at her genetics and the bad break from the starting gate.
I love this video> I love to see footage/pics of Ruffian in which I've never seen before. And this Ruffian series seems to cholck-full of footage/pics I've never seen before. Thanks for posting these videos!!
And since July 7, 1975 Ruffian is running in the sky. Regards from a venezuelan citizen who in February 2018 emigrated to Chile searching a better way of life.
That was heartbreaking she gave everything every time she set foot on the race track. It seemed such cruel fate for such a noble horse especially in a race that was no more than a public spectacle she certainly deserved better. God rest her courageous soul she was one of his greatest creations. James Keeney
Barbaro was fortunate to come along years later with better drugs to control his fear and pain as well as a totally different idea on how to help him recover. Ruffian was laid out flat which never had worked on horses. They will not stay down unless heavily drugged. Barbaro, was suspended in a sling set up. And he was a much calmer horse to begin with. Attitude makes the chances of recovery better. She was like the booster rockets that blew up the Columbia space shot(I am not sure of the name--sorry). She could not hold to a simmer: it was full explosion of power or nothing. And I have been told by a Vet who was at the track that the drugs were not as good as they have become now. The drugs were vastly improved since then because insurance companies saw the benefit in funding research, saving great horses and not having to pay out on such huge losses.
@@348Tobico Well an aspect that both the movie and book (Ruffian) glossed over was the total cluster that took place right after her injury. One aspect was the drugs used on her, along with the horrifically bad decision to try to operate on her so soon after the accident.
I've seen it now that you made second part... I can't tell you how much Impressed I am... Exellent job... Thank you for this great videos and pics I never seen before....
In terms of greatness the last minute or so of this video only touches on the subject, her record. She didn't merely win races, she demolished her opponents. How many horses, colt or mare ran a career by being in the lead at every pole in every race, setting track records or world records for mares in the process? I keep hearing the Zenyatta folks or Rachel Alex folks trumpet their horse all the time and I cannot help but think how far ahead of her time Ruffian was.
She was buried intact (by long tradition, most racehorses are buried head, heart and hooves only) in the infield of Belmont Park, where she ran her last race. There have, however, been outstanding racehorses who were slaughtered at some point after retirement, such as Ferdinand, winner of the Kentucky Derby & Breeders' Cup Classic, & Exceller, who beat Triple Crown winners Seattle Slew & Affirmed in the Jockey Club Gold Cup.
What's the song name that starts at 2:40 and I feel really sad of ruffian but that's how horse racing is and I go for ruffian and I say ruffian could of won if she wouldn't broken her right front leg
Ruffian didn't retire, not all racehorses go to slaughter, Ruffian is remembered as a legend, she never lost, she was ahead when she broke down, they gave her the best vet's in the country to preform a life saving opertaion, it worked until she come round and dilodged the cast, breaking her leg, she was buried in the Belmont track, with her nose pointed towards the finish, that horse meant and still means so much to everyone. do NOT troll this legend.
re Kelly G's statement below: Incorrect. Horses are at their best physically -fastest -- as 4 and 5 year olds. Two year olds are mere babies, their times even at sprints are typically not as fast as that of older horses. They are not allowed to race against older horses, because they would be at such a disadvantage. Even three year olds are at a disadvantage when matched against older horses, and consequently they are automatically GIVEN weight allowances in weight-for-age races. It's a MAJOR accomplishment for a 3-yr-old to beat older horses. Two- and three- year olds are raced extensively because of the economics of the sport. One, it costs a LOT of money to train a horse to get it to the track; owners want a quick return on their investment. Two, the more accomplished horses are now more valuable as breeding prospects than they are as racehorses, and so the colts typically get retired at three years old, the mares a year or two later. But decades ago , it was common for top Thoroughbreds to race at 4,5,6 years old or even beyond, as it is still common for geldings to do so, soundness allowing.
Ruffian would have won that race by far if this tragic accident didn't happen. she was an amazing horse and everyone should have been honoured to have been at the race that day, to have seen any of ruffians races would have been a joy to behold, she was a class filly and did not deserve this to happen to her. RIP ruffian a fine filly who could have produced some of the finest offspring to date, its a shame that I could never happen xxx :(
I believe she would have won as well---she was starting her charge when she broke down. If only she hadn't hit the starting gate, and started unbalanced, she would have done it.
No jockey stops to help an injured horse (or fellow jockey) 1) Stopping suddenly from full-out run would endanger his own mount; horses are much better off, eased up 2) a jockey holding a pumped-up, excited Thoroughbred would more likely pose a danger than a help to a terrified,injured horse 3) ambulance people & outriders are there to help injured horses or (jockeys) 4) a jockey's job is to get his/her horse across the finish line safely; to stop would (in this case) forfeit a sizeable purse.
It's so sad to think that today they probably could have saved her. She would have awoken in a pool or a room with an inflatable floor designed to keep them calm till the drugs wore off. And I'm so happy that Zenyatta and Rachel Alexandra didn't end like Ruffian, but were able to retire sound.
@bladeofbattousai Said pool was designed due to what happened to Ruffian. Sad to say but the reason we can help horses like her now is because of what happened to her. At least some good came from that I guess...
To finish my comment I just wanted to say, God bless her, and all the horses she has saved from this antiquated form of racing. She literally gave her life to end this cruel practice of match racing. It also saddens me that she was so frightened and had to suffer so much before she died...that bothers me even more than the race itself. Who would have won the race? Does anyone really care because I don't.
Ruffian (April 17, 1972 - July 7, 1975) * Sire: Reviewer * Damsire: Bold Ruler * Dam: Shenanigans * Damsire: Native Dancer * Sex: Filly * Breeders & Owners: Stuart & Barbara Jenney * Trainer: Frank Y. Whiteley Jr. (R.I.P.) * Jockeys: Vincent Bracciale (2 for 2) Jacinto Vasquez (8 for 9) * 11 Starts * 10 Wins * 0 Seconds * 0 Thirds * 1 Did Not Finish * $ 313,428 (Current $ 1,702,056) * 1974 United States Champion 2-Year-Old Filly 🏇 * 1975 United States Triple Tiara Champion 🏇 * 1975 United States Champion 3-Year-Old-Filly 🏇 * Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 1976 * Number 35 in The Bloodhorse Magazine "Top 100 United States Racehorses of the 20th. Century List" * Top Ranked American Female Racehorse of the 20th. Century * Ruffian Stakes at Belmont Park since 1976 * Ruffian film (2007) * Rest In Peace, Female Champion! 😭We will always remeber you! * Greetings from Venezuela Ruffian (17 de Abril, 1972 - 7 de Julio, 1975) * Padre: Reviewer * Abuelo paterno: Bold Ruler * Madre: Shenanigans * Abuelo materno: Native Dancer * Sexo: Potranca * Criadores & Propietarios: Stuart & Barbara Jenney * Entrenador: Frank Y. Whiteley Jr. (Q.E.P.D.) * Jinetes: Vincent Bracciale (De 2-2) Jacinto Vásquez (De 9-8) * 11 Salidas * 10 Primeros * 0 Segundos * 0 Terceros * 1 No Pizarra * $ 313,428 ($ 1,702,056 actuales) * Campeona Dosañera en Estados Unidos 1974 🏇 * Campeona de la Triple Tiara de Estados Unidos 1975 🏇 * Campeona Tresañera en Estados Unidos 1975 🏇 * Exaltada al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 1976 * Número 35 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX en Estados Unidos" de la Revista The Bloodhorse * Mejor Yegua de Carreras del siglo XX en Estados Unidos * Clásico Ruffian Stakes en Belmont Park desde 1976 * Película "Ruffian" (2007) * ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeona! 😭¡Siempre te recordaremos! * Saludos desde Venezuela
I saw the match race and I cried when she died. After a while I thought if she hadn't died , what a great mare she could have been. And the foals would have been very speacal.
They should have allowed the fans to attend her burial. It would not have provided any closure, but it would have allowed the fans who loved her to pay their respects. After all, she did have a large following and fan base. This is the reason why there have never been any more match races here in the states, and frankly, I am grateful for that but saddened that it took such a traumatic event to put an end to a brutal and outdated form of racing. God bless her.
Where did you get the song of the final race (which bein to 2:50 ) =° I search it since may month ago.... but I don't find TT (sorry for my bad english xx)
Ruffian is the only horse in history that could have dethroned Secretariat and all the others as the greatest race horse of all time. That tragic race that day was a non-sense. Foolish Pleasure although a good horse itself was going to be badly beaten, there was going to be no other out come and most people were already aware of that. Despite of what happened, Ruffian lives as one of the greatest filly that ever existed.
Yes, she was leading the race; & I believe she would have won. FP's "win" was hollow. But in ANY race, human or horse, you forfeit if you don't finish. An Olympic marathoner or Tour de France cyclist could have a 20-minute lead over everyone, but if he drops dead a yard before the finish line, he's NOT going to be declared the winner. The great filly Go For Wand fell shortly before the finish line while leading the 1990 Breeder's Cup Distaff. Like Ruffian, she is listed as DNF (Did Not Finish).
Frank Whiteley's assessment that a match-race never proved anything is 100% correct. The only thing a match-race proves is that you're pushing your horse far too hard. Far harder than he or she would ever be pushed under a normal race scenario. If races were ran two horses per race? Then under match-race like conditions is how trainers would train their horses to run. But thoroughbred's are not trained that way. They're trained to follow the pace of a normal race. Then make that one big move.
Yes, but I am responding to someone complaining that Baeza didn't stop FP to help Ruffian. In context, it's obvious I'm discussing jockeys helping others' mounts. If that has happened, I am unaware of a case. Of course Antley & Prado - & Vasquez & many others - have helped their own severely injured horses slow down/stay on their feet. Elsewhere, I've defended Vasquez, who did all he could to help Ruffian remain upright, from unfair criticism he shouldn't have left her after vets, etc, came.
she could have beaten the colt! she was the best and now ruffin and barbaro are forever in my heart as the best race horses ever known! she flew past every finish line like an eagle soring free she was determined to win every race she set her hoof on i look up to her as an honor to have her here on this earth with us racemen/women i cryed durin this but happy tears to know she gave us new things new records and gave us racemen/women heart and bravery
No. Frank Whiteley, Jr. trained Ruffian her entire career. He wasn't keen on the match race, but he went along with it. Maybe you're thinking of Seattle Slew's owners firing Billy Turner after the Triple Crown, because Turner didn't want to send Slew to California (where he lost for the first time).
This person has just watched the film and put it in a video. for a start the trainer wasn't in the stands he was right beside the track. then the vet never said about 10% chance. the jockey didn't support the horses leg if you watch the real match race not the film.
Though we'll never know who would have won, Ruffian was starting to pull away from Foolish Pleasure when she broke down. Plenty of good fillies/mares have beaten males, even older ones, which Foolish Pleasure wasn't; Ruffian was taller, longer & heavier than he was. Rachel Alexandra, Zenyatta, Black Caviar, Goldikova are recent standout racemares to beat males. The timing of the Match was bad, though. 12f 15 days after running 10f? (Btw, I think you mean "condemned"; "commend" means to praise.)
and the reason WHY they only let 3 or 2 year old colts and fillies race because they are acctully faster when they are young adults arnt as fast BUT the adults have stronger bones not fillies and colts thats why they brake down some times or its the ground but if it was adults then it would not be as fast thats why
Provocative questions there. Would Ruffian have won the race had she not broken down? I doubt it. Belmont is 1 1/2 miles, a longer distance favors a colt over a filly. People also tend to forget how excellent Foolish Pleasure was: he won the Kentucky Derby and placed 2d in the Preakness and Belmont. Would we remember Ruffian even if she hadn't broken down? Sure, especially if she'd won. But her tragic death makes her career all the more memorable.
The Match Race was at Belmont Park, at the distance of 1 1/4 miles. The Belmont Stakes being 1 1/2 miles is irrelevant. Or maybe it isn't. Avatar, who won the 1975 Belmont by about half a length over Foolish Pleasure, ran the mile and a half in 2:28 1/5. Ruffian had won the mile and a half Coaching Club American Oaks *at Belmont Park* just two weeks earlier, in a time of 2:27 4/5 -- FASTER THAN AVATAR AND FOOLISH PLEASURE. Ruffian's CCAO time was good enough it would have won something like 3/4 of the past 50 runnings of the Belmont. I question whether longer distance really favors a colt over a filly. I suggest you check out how many times the Prix de l'Arc de Triomph, Europe's most important race and run at 2400 meters (very close to 1 1/2 miles) under open conditions (males and females, 3 years old and up) has been won by fillies. The Europeans are more willing to run fillies against colts, and the females do quite well.
yup, thats true. when she woke up she kinda of panicked aand she broke her other leg and her sholder blade shatered, she had to be put down. thats why in today days horses when get off the anestesic they put them in a "pool" so to speak.
Just think what ruffian could have done if her owners had loved her enough to listen to her trainer and not got her killed trying to prove something she didn't need to prove
I don't see how he couldn't know she had a gash in her shoulder and pull her up sooner. Her stride had to be different than how she ran before. Horses are so heavy it would have been torture to put her through trying to save her.
Adrenaline is an amazing thing, and pulling up a racehorse----even a former one (I have two) is not easy. Even on broken limbs, they keep trying to keep going.
Red's Secret That is true Red. I had quarter horse off the track, not hard to pull up but was going so fast it took some time. It's just very sad. He ran so fast and had small bones I always worried he would miss step and break his leg across the pasture. Those horses off the track can fly but are fragile.Thanks for reminding me of the speed they are going
I beg to differ that NO jockey stops to help an injured horse. See jockey Chris Antley's actions, which helped to save Charismatic after the 1999 Belmont Stakes, and Edgar Prado aboard Barbaro in the 2006 Preakness.
Entirely different scenario than some people's criticisms here of Baeza). I honestly don't understand why you are even bringing it up. Prado and Antley were *the riders* of Barbaro and Charismatic respectively, as Jacinto Vasquez was with Ruffian. Jacinto similarly tried his best to stop Ruffian, he helped her stay on her feet as soon as he dismounted. No jockey with a shred of sanity isn't going to try to stop/ease down an injured horse they're riding. Quite aside from concern for their mount, the jockey would be risking his/her own life to do otherwise.
I believe that ruffian would have won the match race against foolish pleasure because in every race she was always in front,she wouldn't allow the other horses to be in front of her,before she broke down,she was in front,if she didn't break down she would have won the race
That would have improved her chances, but they still would have been very poor. Would be, even today. With the open, highly contaminated wound, in an area of the body with limited blood supply, she easily could have gotten infected. A vet (who could not know she would be so unmanageable coming out of anesthesia) had said her chances were 10 percent at best. This was a horse who as a 2-yr-old had refused to wear a much lighter cast, for a hairline fracture in a hind leg. & there's laminitis ...
Some people say it was the gate,some people say it was the birds,some say she took a bad step BUT what if she broke down becuase of ALL of this maybe when she hit the gate hard she was in pain and spooked easily so the birds spooked her causing her to take a bad step therfore making her break down
the problem was not becasue she couldnt race a stallion, before she broke she was half lenght ahead, im certain that she could have winned. she had also higher chances than any other horse in breaking bones, because she had a genetic dease called "soft bones", t makes horse bones more breakable during great pressure and heat. her parents had the same desase and not long after her death they also were put down because of bronken bones injuries
@parabuteo78 Not at all... I suppose accidents happen though... Just heard about a friend's filly who fell through a cattle guard and broke all her legs... I guess when it's in front of the whole world and in a sport it just seems a whole lot worse
;( Ruffian didnt had to proove herself on that match race...she was too young and not all grown up, thats why i dont like races where...fillysor colts od 2 year old race at. Ruffian was one of a kind, a vey very special filly, but i think if she wouldnt started racing at 2 year old she'll never had her leg broken science those years...she was damn fast an she really was a Ruffian, i was amazed when i sa her go that fast at belmont, i missed y Ruffian. R.I.P
ruffian was a great horse if she was ahead of the colt then she would of gone even faster caue she is using her energy for the VERY end if u use your energy for the VERY beggining then you wont have ANYTHING for the finish so witch means she did the right thing and would have one because the colt used his energy for the beggining ruffian used it for the end so witch means she might of won the race im not saying im for sure but she might of won the race because her and her trainer are smart.....
do you not know the story of Barbaro? And there are MANY others running un graded stakes that are saved as well. Please educate yourself before making comments
Festivechicken (and Sharon Melendes): Actually, Sarah Conroy is very likely correct: a horse with Ruffian's injury would almost certainly be put down immediately even today. As she would have been, if she had broken down in any situation other than that Match Race. Barbaro's fracture was severe, and he was almost saved -- as many horses with serious fractures have been -- but Barbaro did *not* have a compound fracture like Ruffian did. That open wound, contaminated with dirt and no doubt feces, was basically a death sentence. Compound fractures remain an automatic euthanasia case in horses, or the closest thing to it. I challenge you to name me one horse who has been saved from a compound fracture, or that an attempt was even made to save them. Spanish Riddle, maybe? Not sure of the nature of his initial injury, before he underwent one of the first successful amputative procedures. I think he developed necrosis after surgery for a closed fracture, but I'm not certain. There may be horses around who have been saved after a compound fracture, but they are vanishingly rare, unlike horses with closed fractures.
Sharon Melendes: Waking up in a water tank would have had no bearing on the fact she had suffered a horribly contaminated compound fracture, per my other post. And it probably would not have had bearing on the temperamental/behavioral issues which led immediately to her death. Barbaro was a phenomenally cooperative patient, but Ruffian was a very assertive sort. Not mean, but she demanded her own way. At two years old, she had refused to tolerate a traditional cast for a minor, hairline fracture; they ended up having to pad the leg with pillows instead, because she was threatening to do then what she ended up doing at 3: bashing herself to pieces. Anesthesia had nothing to do with it; she would *not* tolerate a cast. In a tank she would have been spared injuring herself coming out of anesthesia, but an injured horse is not kept in the water tank indefinitely. I doubt, too, that she would have tolerated a sling, which aided Barbaro and other horses in their recovery.
she would have won i know it n did foolish pleasures owner or trainer whoever really say you put some real speed at her n she breaks down i want to kno cuz they used it in the movie but idk if tht was real or hollywood great vid so sad they had to revive her twice during surgery also
Do you even know what you're talking about?! Having a horse finish a race on a broken hoof or a shattered leg, that's force. If a horse doesn't want to race, then a horse will tell a human it does not want to race. Watch "Quality Road's Breeders Cup Freakout". Since you say horse racing is bad, you do realize without the sport or with an abrupt shutdown of the sport, you would know nothing of a Man O' War, Seabiscuit, Secretariat, a Rachel Alexandra, a Zenyatta.............or a Ruffian.
Of course she should be buried with her good blankets, since she shouldn't have been racing at all, given her age! Disgusting thoroughbred trainers, that's you Michael Matz. You know better than to run a horse at that age, but keep it up, let's all watch babies die.
Ruffian should never have ran because in her last race she did trip and in the vid she IS limping. I'm sorry but 've owned racehorses and when they run against colts, it's never any good. No good EVER comes out of a match race.
Personally I don’t think he should have been declared winner Ruffian came up lame. Obviously these people only wanted to win and be better than her.. 😒
I suspect you would feel differently if your champion horse had hundreds of thousands of dollars in earnings on the line, and a potential blank spot in their career record. How would you have the race recorded? That Foolish Pleasure was disqualified? What happened wasn't his fault. Professional athletic competitions don't change rules because someone gets seriously hurt. Boxers sometimes get fatally injured in the ring: their opponent is declared the winner. Ruffian would have been declared winner if Foolish Pleasure had broken down. That's the way the rules work; if a horse doesn't finish the race for any reason, they forfeit purse money. It's true whether it's a match race or a 20 horse race. Foolish Pleasure's owners had every right to collect the first place money, though they didn't feel good about it. Horses get first place money for walkovers, races in which no one else is entered. They're very rare, but they have occurred: the great Spectacular Bid won the 1980 Woodward in a walkover. Ruffian's owners forfeited any second place money planned, and would not have resented the way things were handled, because they knew the rules. Yes, Foolish's Pleasure's connections wanted to win, they were proud of their Kentucky Derby winning colt, but they did *not* want to win this way, because they knew all too well the race failed to prove which horse was superior that day. They were very somber in the aftermath of the race. The only person who was ungracious about what had happened was the father of Foolish Pleasure's trainer (not FP's trainer Leroy Jolley) who made a vulgar, unwarranted comment about Ruffian. His remarks were some of the worst sportsmanship I've ever heard reported.
Actually the rider of foolish pleasure didn't know what to do when ruffian broke her leg. he didn't know if he should just run out the race or stop. i think he made a good disicion to just keep going and run out the race. if you watch the Original race you dont even see him trying. he kinda let his horse run a little bit until he is at the finish.
Will you stop and think about what you said? With one exception (the father of Foolish Pleasure's trainer) the people connected with Foolish Pleasure were deeply upset about what happened to Ruffian, for precisely the reason you state. Yes, they wanted to prove their horse was better than her -- and vice versa, btw, on the part of Ruffian's handlers. Foolish Pleasure 's connections KNEW THE RACE DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING. They were upset about Ruffian's injury, both for the loss of a great champion, but also for their own horse's sake. It was an empty victory, and they were appropriately subdued. (With, as I said, the exception of LeRoy Jolley's father.) In any other sport it would work this way. If during final of a major tennis tournament, one of the two players gets injured and pulls out during the match, the remaining player is going to be declared winner.
@horsegirlsforever Excuse me? Please learn proper English first off and she sadly died due to a broken leg and a failure at the surgery and i see her grave everyday i'm at Belmont.
It was a bad decision trying to have a Filly try to keep up with that Stallion. Foolish Pleasure was clearly pulling away and her heart and determiantion made her go past her abilities. But Ruffian was a great horse no doubt about that. Her trainer should be commended with his common sense. Dumb decision
Wrong!!! She was in front when she broke down, and I'm sure she would have won it. They were only going a mile and a quarter, the same distance as the Kentucky Derby. She had set track records at that distance, and the Oaks that she won that year was the same distance as the Belmont (1 and a half miles), and her time for the Oaks was faster than that year's Belmont. Foolish Pleasure's Derby was slower than Ruffian's time for the same distance.
@@janetgriffiths7200 Ruffian had never run a race previously at 1 1/4 miles prior to the Match, so she could not have set track records at that distance or have beaten Foolish Pleasure's Derby time. Her non-sprint races had been at 1 mile (Acorn), 1 1/8 miles (Mother Goose) and 1 1/2 miles (Coaching Club American Oaks). She had set or equaled *stakes* records in each of those races, as she had in her prior 5 stakes starts. But not track records. The only track records Ruffian ever set were at the sprint distance of 5 1/2 furlongs at Belmont and Aqueduct (plus her unofficial "2-year-old track record" for 6 furlongs at Saratoga). (Source: entry on Ruffian in Thoroughbred Greats.) You are correct that her time for the Coaching Club American Oaks was faster than the winning time for that year's Belmont. Her time would have won something like 3/4 of the Belmonts of the past 40 years.
Sadly man's greed cost this Baby Girl Her Life, that's a hefty price to pay.
RIP RUFFIAN YOU WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST FASTEST FILLY OF ALL TIMES .
It's my belief that running such a young horse so many times led to the breakdown of her young bones that had a long way to go before they had hardened and matured. Her first injury should have been a clue that more was to come if she continued to be stressed so consistently. Being an unusually large horse didn't help either. Racing a horse younger than three should be done minimally, which I believe it is today. Ruffian came along too early.
Sadly this mare was bred to break down. Her sire broke down 4 times her dam broke down once. That bloodline is still dying on the track. Eight belles was another one. But they will keep breeding these powerful engines on champagne glass ankles and legs.
@@vwyldrose1153 desperately and sadly true. Conformationally, Ruffian was lovely, aside from one thing: her legs and joints were far too tiny to support her massive 17hh frame. That off foreleg isn’t straight either - it’s either back at the knee or over. In almost every image, that leg foretells what would be likely to happen under too much pressure.
She was built for speed, but she wasn’t built to be able to physically cope with it. :(
I disagree that running to many times was the cause of her breakdown. Also disagree with age. I have seen horses at 5 and 6 breakdown. Look at her genetics and the bad break from the starting gate.
@@vwyldrose1153ruffian was a filly and bloodline has nothing to do with breakdowns.
I love this video> I love to see footage/pics of Ruffian in which I've never seen before. And this Ruffian series seems to cholck-full of footage/pics I've never seen before. Thanks for posting these videos!!
Thank you for creating this, it brought tears to my eyes. Such a lovely tribute.
baby girl... i'm so sorry this happened .. you deserved so much better.....
And since July 7, 1975 Ruffian is running in the sky. Regards from a venezuelan citizen who in February 2018 emigrated to Chile searching a better way of life.
That was heartbreaking she gave everything every time she set foot on the race track. It seemed such cruel fate for such a noble horse especially in a race that was no more than a public spectacle she certainly deserved better. God rest her courageous soul she was one of his greatest creations. James Keeney
Sadly, I look at her death as pure tragedy. Barbaro's story was inspirational to so many, even though he eventually lost his fight as did Ruffian.
Barbaro was fortunate to come along years later with better drugs to control his fear and pain as well as a totally different idea on how to help him recover. Ruffian was laid out flat which never had worked on horses. They will not stay down unless heavily drugged. Barbaro, was suspended in a sling set up. And he was a much calmer horse to begin with. Attitude makes the chances of recovery better. She was like the booster rockets that blew up the Columbia space shot(I am not sure of the name--sorry). She could not hold to a simmer: it was full explosion of power or nothing. And I have been told by a Vet who was at the track that the drugs were not as good as they have become now. The drugs were vastly improved since then because insurance companies saw the benefit in funding research, saving great horses and not having to pay out on such huge losses.
@@348Tobico Well an aspect that both the movie and book (Ruffian) glossed over was the total cluster that took place right after her injury. One aspect was the drugs used on her, along with the horrifically bad decision to try to operate on her so soon after the accident.
I've seen it now that you made second part... I can't tell you how much Impressed I am... Exellent job... Thank you for this great videos and pics I never seen before....
In terms of greatness the last minute or so of this video only touches on the subject, her record. She didn't merely win races, she demolished her opponents. How many horses, colt or mare ran a career by being in the lead at every pole in every race, setting track records or world records for mares in the process? I keep hearing the Zenyatta folks or Rachel Alex folks trumpet their horse all the time and I cannot help but think how far ahead of her time Ruffian was.
The music is from the Ruffain soundtrack. Ruffain will always be with God. But this makes me cry, and Ruffain will always be remembered....
That poor beautiful baby.
Simply amazing is all i can say. Very sad though
She was buried intact (by long tradition, most racehorses are buried head, heart and hooves only) in the infield of Belmont Park, where she ran her last race. There have, however, been outstanding racehorses who were slaughtered at some point after retirement, such as Ferdinand, winner of the Kentucky Derby & Breeders' Cup Classic, & Exceller, who beat Triple Crown winners Seattle Slew & Affirmed in the Jockey Club Gold Cup.
What a tragic senseless loss of a great wonderful filly!😢
A shame and a waste, she was a magnificent horse
Ruffian would have won if she didn't break down. She was leading when she broke her leg. R.I.P Ruffian
What's the song name that starts at 2:40 and I feel really sad of ruffian but that's how horse racing is and I go for ruffian and I say ruffian could of won if she wouldn't broken her right front leg
Ruffian didn't retire, not all racehorses go to slaughter, Ruffian is remembered as a legend, she never lost, she was ahead when she broke down, they gave her the best vet's in the country to preform a life saving opertaion, it worked until she come round and dilodged the cast, breaking her leg, she was buried in the Belmont track, with her nose pointed towards the finish, that horse meant and still means so much to everyone. do NOT troll this legend.
re Kelly G's statement below: Incorrect. Horses are at their best physically -fastest -- as 4 and 5 year olds. Two year olds are mere babies, their times even at sprints are typically not as fast as that of older horses. They are not allowed to race against older horses, because they would be at such a disadvantage. Even three year olds are at a disadvantage when matched against older horses, and consequently they are automatically GIVEN weight allowances in weight-for-age races. It's a MAJOR accomplishment for a 3-yr-old to beat older horses. Two- and three- year olds are raced extensively because of the economics of the sport. One, it costs a LOT of money to train a horse to get it to the track; owners want a quick return on their investment. Two, the more accomplished horses are now more valuable as breeding prospects than they are as racehorses, and so the colts typically get retired at three years old, the mares a year or two later. But decades ago , it was common for top Thoroughbreds to race at 4,5,6 years old or even beyond, as it is still common for geldings to do so, soundness allowing.
I love you my angel. Always in my mind! R.I.P
You was muy better than many people think!
Ruffian would have won that race by far if this tragic accident didn't happen. she was an amazing horse and everyone should have been honoured to have been at the race that day, to have seen any of ruffians races would have been a joy to behold, she was a class filly and did not deserve this to happen to her. RIP ruffian a fine filly who could have produced some of the finest offspring to date, its a shame that I could never happen xxx :(
I believe she would have won as well---she was starting her charge when she broke down. If only she hadn't hit the starting gate, and started unbalanced, she would have done it.
No jockey stops to help an injured horse (or fellow jockey) 1) Stopping suddenly from full-out run would endanger his own mount; horses are much better off, eased up 2) a jockey holding a pumped-up, excited Thoroughbred would more likely pose a danger than a help to a terrified,injured horse 3) ambulance people & outriders are there to help injured horses or (jockeys)
4) a jockey's job is to get his/her horse across the finish line safely; to stop would (in this case) forfeit a sizeable purse.
It's so sad to think that today they probably could have saved her. She would have awoken in a pool or a room with an inflatable floor designed to keep them calm till the drugs wore off. And I'm so happy that Zenyatta and Rachel Alexandra didn't end like Ruffian, but were able to retire sound.
@bladeofbattousai Said pool was designed due to what happened to Ruffian. Sad to say but the reason we can help horses like her now is because of what happened to her. At least some good came from that I guess...
To finish my comment I just wanted to say, God bless her, and all the horses she has saved from this antiquated form of racing. She literally gave her life to end this cruel practice of match racing. It also saddens me that she was so frightened and had to suffer so much before she died...that bothers me even more than the race itself. Who would have won the race? Does anyone really care because I don't.
R.I.P Ruffian!
It's still sad that she thought she was still running when she woke up. Which caused her to broke an elbow.
You should upload the Ruffian 2007 soundtrack
paula94saf ruclips.net/video/96wka0rBHWMi/видео.htmls this what your talking about?
Ruffian
(April 17, 1972 - July 7, 1975)
* Sire: Reviewer
* Damsire: Bold Ruler
* Dam: Shenanigans
* Damsire: Native Dancer
* Sex: Filly
* Breeders & Owners: Stuart & Barbara Jenney
* Trainer: Frank Y. Whiteley Jr. (R.I.P.)
* Jockeys: Vincent Bracciale (2 for 2)
Jacinto Vasquez (8 for 9)
* 11 Starts
* 10 Wins
* 0 Seconds
* 0 Thirds
* 1 Did Not Finish
* $ 313,428 (Current $ 1,702,056)
* 1974 United States Champion 2-Year-Old Filly 🏇
* 1975 United States Triple Tiara Champion 🏇
* 1975 United States Champion 3-Year-Old-Filly 🏇
* Inducted to The National Museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in 1976
* Number 35 in The Bloodhorse Magazine "Top 100 United States Racehorses of the 20th. Century List"
* Top Ranked American Female Racehorse of the 20th. Century
* Ruffian Stakes at Belmont Park since 1976
* Ruffian film (2007)
* Rest In Peace, Female Champion! 😭We will always remeber you!
* Greetings from Venezuela
Ruffian
(17 de Abril, 1972 - 7 de Julio, 1975)
* Padre: Reviewer
* Abuelo paterno: Bold Ruler
* Madre: Shenanigans
* Abuelo materno: Native Dancer
* Sexo: Potranca
* Criadores & Propietarios: Stuart & Barbara Jenney
* Entrenador: Frank Y. Whiteley Jr. (Q.E.P.D.)
* Jinetes: Vincent Bracciale (De 2-2)
Jacinto Vásquez (De 9-8)
* 11 Salidas
* 10 Primeros
* 0 Segundos
* 0 Terceros
* 1 No Pizarra
* $ 313,428 ($ 1,702,056 actuales)
* Campeona Dosañera en Estados Unidos 1974 🏇
* Campeona de la Triple Tiara de Estados Unidos 1975 🏇
* Campeona Tresañera en Estados Unidos 1975 🏇
* Exaltada al Museo Nacional de las Carreras y Salón de la Fama en 1976
* Número 35 en la "Lista de los 100 Mejores Caballos de Carrera del Siglo XX en Estados Unidos" de la Revista The Bloodhorse
* Mejor Yegua de Carreras del siglo XX en Estados Unidos
* Clásico Ruffian Stakes en Belmont Park desde 1976
* Película "Ruffian" (2007)
* ¡Descansa En Paz, Campeona! 😭¡Siempre te recordaremos!
* Saludos desde Venezuela
I saw the match race and I cried when she died. After a while I thought if she hadn't died , what a great mare she could have been. And the foals would have been very speacal.
Yes and Yes.
Btw, how did you get he music?
They should have allowed the fans to attend her burial. It would not have provided any closure, but it would have allowed the fans who loved her to pay their respects. After all, she did have a large following and fan base. This is the reason why there have never been any more match races here in the states, and frankly, I am grateful for that but saddened that it took such a traumatic event to put an end to a brutal and outdated form of racing. God bless her.
so sad.
ruffian would've kicked ass. ..rip beautiful baby girl
i cry.....
Where did you get the song of the final race (which bein to 2:50 ) =° I search it since may month ago.... but I don't find TT
(sorry for my bad english xx)
hello, could you send me songs from Ruffian OST please? This is very important for me. I can't find it... Please answer me..
Yes, Rufian would very definitely have beaten the colt
how terribly SAD it is, that her life ended too quickly - perhaps the comment that this race should not have happened is CORRECT.
It was somthing about the look on FoolishPleasure ein the winners circle that haunted me. it was as if he knew what happened to her.
Don’t mind me I’m just gonna cry myself to sleep 😭🖐
Ruffian is the only horse in history that could have dethroned Secretariat and all the others as the greatest race horse of all time. That tragic race that day was a non-sense. Foolish Pleasure although a good horse itself was going to be badly beaten, there was going to be no other out come and most people were already aware of that. Despite of what happened, Ruffian lives as one of the greatest filly that ever existed.
This Race shouldve never happened if it didnt she would probably still be alive
Its a huge shame that happened to her one of the greatest fillies ever
Yes, she was leading the race; & I believe she would have won. FP's "win"
was hollow. But in ANY race, human or horse, you forfeit if you don't finish. An Olympic marathoner or Tour de France cyclist could have a 20-minute lead over everyone, but if he drops dead a yard before the finish line, he's NOT going to be declared the winner. The great filly Go For Wand fell shortly before the finish line while leading the 1990 Breeder's Cup Distaff. Like Ruffian, she is listed as DNF (Did Not Finish).
What soundtrack did you use? I know its from the movie Ruffian but what are the names?
Why was there only one set of hoof prints ? From foolish pleasure
What music is flying at the beginning cutscene?
Match races had been out of the picture for years before people decided to perpetrate this disastor. They should have left well enough alone.
PURO RUFFIAN
Frank Whiteley's assessment that a match-race never proved anything is 100% correct. The only thing a match-race proves is that you're pushing your horse far too hard. Far harder than he or she would ever be pushed under a normal race scenario. If races were ran two horses per race? Then under match-race like conditions is how trainers would train their horses to run. But thoroughbred's are not trained that way. They're trained to follow the pace of a normal race. Then make that one big move.
Yes, but I am responding to someone complaining that Baeza didn't stop FP to help Ruffian. In context, it's obvious I'm discussing jockeys helping others' mounts. If that has happened, I am unaware of a case. Of course Antley & Prado - & Vasquez & many others - have helped their own severely injured horses slow down/stay on their feet. Elsewhere, I've defended Vasquez, who did all he could to help Ruffian remain upright, from unfair criticism he shouldn't have left her after vets, etc, came.
Jacinto left her once the vets and other emergency personnel arrived because he knew he would just be in the way. Let the pros handle it.
In my opinion she would’ve definitely won the race because the two horses were prob both at their top speed but before she broke down, she was ahead
RUFFIAN 🐴
Pardon my asking, but where did you get the pictures of Foolish Pleasure running away without Ruffian? Excellent job, by the way.
Sarah White l I'm
she could have beaten the colt! she was the best and now ruffin and barbaro are forever in my heart as the best race horses ever known! she flew past every finish line like an eagle soring free she was determined to win every race she set her hoof on i look up to her as an honor to have her here on this earth with us racemen/women i cryed durin this but happy tears to know she gave us new things new records and gave us racemen/women heart and bravery
Whats the music at the beginning?
pls send me a mail on youtube
No. Frank Whiteley, Jr. trained Ruffian her entire career. He wasn't keen on the match race, but he went along with it. Maybe you're thinking of Seattle Slew's owners firing Billy Turner after the Triple Crown, because Turner didn't want to send Slew to California (where he lost for the first time).
This person has just watched the film and put it in a video. for a start the trainer wasn't in the stands he was right beside the track. then the vet never said about 10% chance. the jockey didn't support the horses leg if you watch the real match race not the film.
Though we'll never know who would have won, Ruffian was starting to pull away from Foolish Pleasure when she broke down. Plenty of good fillies/mares have beaten males, even older ones, which Foolish Pleasure wasn't; Ruffian was taller, longer & heavier than he was. Rachel Alexandra, Zenyatta, Black Caviar, Goldikova are recent standout racemares to beat males. The timing of the Match was bad, though. 12f 15 days after running 10f? (Btw, I think you mean "condemned"; "commend" means to praise.)
and the reason WHY they only let 3 or 2 year old colts and fillies race because they are acctully faster when they are young adults arnt as fast BUT the adults have stronger bones not fillies and colts thats why they brake down some times or its the ground but if it was adults then it would not be as fast thats why
Provocative questions there. Would Ruffian have won the race had she not broken down? I doubt it. Belmont is 1 1/2 miles, a longer distance favors a colt over a filly. People also tend to forget how excellent Foolish Pleasure was: he won the Kentucky Derby and placed 2d in the Preakness and Belmont. Would we remember Ruffian even if she hadn't broken down? Sure, especially if she'd won. But her tragic death makes her career all the more memorable.
The Match Race was at Belmont Park, at the distance of 1 1/4 miles. The Belmont Stakes being 1 1/2 miles is irrelevant.
Or maybe it isn't. Avatar, who won the 1975 Belmont by about half a length over Foolish Pleasure, ran the mile and a half in 2:28 1/5. Ruffian had won the mile and a half Coaching Club American Oaks *at Belmont Park* just two weeks earlier,
in a time of 2:27 4/5 -- FASTER THAN AVATAR AND FOOLISH PLEASURE. Ruffian's CCAO time was good enough it would have won something like 3/4 of the past 50 runnings of the Belmont.
I question whether longer distance really favors a colt over a filly. I suggest you check out how many times the Prix de l'Arc de Triomph, Europe's most important race and run at 2400 meters (very close to 1 1/2 miles) under open conditions (males and females, 3 years old and up) has been won by fillies. The Europeans are more willing to run fillies against colts, and the females do quite well.
yup, thats true. when she woke up she kinda of panicked aand she broke her other leg and her sholder blade shatered, she had to be put down.
thats why in today days horses when get off the anestesic they put them in a "pool" so to speak.
Go with God and hi will take care 😇😢😢😭🐴🐴
Just think what ruffian could have done if her owners had loved her enough to listen to her trainer and not got her killed trying to prove something she didn't need to prove
I don't see how he couldn't know she had a gash in her shoulder and pull her up sooner. Her stride had to be different than how she ran before. Horses are so heavy it would have been torture to put her through trying to save her.
Adrenaline is an amazing thing, and pulling up a racehorse----even a former one (I have two) is not easy. Even on broken limbs, they keep trying to keep going.
Red's Secret That is true Red. I had quarter horse off the track, not hard to pull up but was going so fast it took some time. It's just very sad. He ran so fast and had small bones I always worried he would miss step and break his leg across the pasture. Those horses off the track can fly but are fragile.Thanks for reminding me of the speed they are going
She didn't have a gash in her shoulder. She blew out both sesamoid bones in her right front ankle.
ruffian had the better racing record...foolish pleasure lost some of his races. that is enough for me to call ruffian the better horse
I beg to differ that NO jockey stops to help an injured horse. See jockey Chris Antley's actions, which helped to save Charismatic after the 1999 Belmont Stakes, and Edgar Prado aboard Barbaro in the 2006 Preakness.
Entirely different scenario than some people's criticisms here of Baeza). I honestly don't understand why you are even bringing it up. Prado and Antley were *the riders* of Barbaro and Charismatic respectively, as Jacinto Vasquez was with Ruffian. Jacinto similarly tried his best to stop Ruffian, he helped her stay on her feet as soon as he dismounted. No jockey with a shred of sanity isn't going to try to stop/ease down an injured horse they're riding. Quite aside from concern for their mount, the jockey would be risking his/her own life to do otherwise.
She was 3?!?!? That's sickening!
That's OK, now you understand. : ) But yeah, their best friend could be
lying motionless there on the track in a spill, and they're not going to stop.
I believe that ruffian would have won the match race against foolish pleasure because in every race she was always in front,she wouldn't allow the other horses to be in front of her,before she broke down,she was in front,if she didn't break down she would have won the race
That would have improved her chances, but they still would have been very poor. Would be, even today. With the open, highly contaminated wound, in an area of the body with limited blood supply, she easily could have gotten infected. A vet (who could not know she would be so unmanageable coming out of anesthesia) had said her chances were 10 percent at best. This was a horse who as a 2-yr-old had refused to wear a much lighter cast, for a hairline fracture in a hind leg. & there's laminitis ...
I'm crying but nothing
Some people say it was the gate,some people say it was the birds,some say she took a bad step BUT what if she broke down becuase of ALL of this maybe when she hit the gate hard she was in pain and spooked easily so the birds spooked her causing her to take a bad step therfore making her break down
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🙏🐴
And be good girl
the problem was not becasue she couldnt race a stallion, before she broke she was half lenght ahead, im certain that she could have winned.
she had also higher chances than any other horse in breaking bones, because she had a genetic dease called "soft bones", t makes horse bones more breakable during great pressure and heat. her parents had the same desase and not long after her death they also were put down because of bronken bones injuries
she hit the gate
@parabuteo78 Not at all... I suppose accidents happen though... Just heard about a friend's filly who fell through a cattle guard and broke all her legs... I guess when it's in front of the whole world and in a sport it just seems a whole lot worse
plus horse racing is a thousand years old even more infact!!!! but back then they used adults
@horsegirlsforever she was not Slaughtered she is buried at Belmont you need to watch the video instead of saying stuff thats not true.
;( Ruffian didnt had to proove herself on that match race...she was too young and not all grown up, thats why i dont like races where...fillysor colts od 2 year old race at. Ruffian was one of a kind, a vey very special filly, but i think if she wouldnt started racing at 2 year old she'll never had her leg broken science those years...she was damn fast an she really was a Ruffian, i was amazed when i sa her go that fast at belmont, i missed y Ruffian.
R.I.P
ruffian was a great horse if she was ahead of the colt then she would of gone even faster caue she is using her energy for the VERY end if u use your energy for the VERY beggining then you wont have ANYTHING for the finish so witch means she did the right thing and would have one because the colt used his energy for the beggining ruffian used it for the end so witch means she might of won the race im not saying im for sure but she might of won the race because her and her trainer are smart.....
at least they tried to save her. Now a days they would have shot here there and then :(
do you not know the story of Barbaro? And there are MANY others running un graded stakes that are saved as well. Please educate yourself before making comments
Festivechicken well she is part lee true
That's actually really great! I guess it depends on the horse if the owners want to save it or not.
Festivechicken (and Sharon Melendes): Actually, Sarah Conroy is very likely correct: a horse with Ruffian's injury would almost certainly be put down immediately even today. As she would have been, if she had broken down in any situation other than that Match Race. Barbaro's fracture was severe, and he was almost saved -- as many horses with serious fractures have been -- but Barbaro did *not* have a compound fracture like Ruffian did. That open wound, contaminated with dirt and no doubt feces, was basically a death sentence. Compound fractures remain an automatic euthanasia case in horses, or the closest thing to it. I challenge you to name me one horse who has been saved from a compound fracture, or that an attempt was even made to save them. Spanish Riddle, maybe? Not sure of the nature of his initial injury, before he underwent one of the first successful amputative procedures. I think he developed necrosis after surgery for a closed fracture, but I'm not certain. There may be horses around who have been saved after a compound fracture, but they are vanishingly rare, unlike horses with closed fractures.
Sharon Melendes: Waking up in a water tank would have had no bearing on the fact she had suffered a horribly contaminated compound fracture, per my other post. And it probably would not have had bearing on the temperamental/behavioral issues which led immediately to her death. Barbaro was a phenomenally cooperative patient, but Ruffian was a very assertive sort. Not mean, but she demanded her own way. At two years old, she had refused to tolerate a traditional cast for a minor, hairline fracture; they ended up having to pad the leg with pillows instead, because she was threatening to do then what she ended up doing at 3: bashing herself to pieces. Anesthesia had nothing to do with it; she would *not* tolerate a cast. In a tank she would have been spared injuring herself coming out of anesthesia, but an injured horse is not kept in the water tank indefinitely. I doubt, too, that she would have tolerated a sling, which aided Barbaro and other horses in their recovery.
she would have won i know it n did foolish pleasures owner or trainer whoever really say you put some real speed at her n she breaks down i want to kno cuz they used it in the movie but idk if tht was real or hollywood great vid so sad they had to revive her twice during surgery also
Racehorsing should b banned😭😭😭😭
Do you even know what you're talking about?! Having a horse finish a race on a broken hoof or a shattered leg, that's force. If a horse doesn't want to race, then a horse will tell a human it does not want to race. Watch "Quality Road's Breeders Cup Freakout". Since you say horse racing is bad, you do realize without the sport or with an abrupt shutdown of the sport, you would know nothing of a Man O' War, Seabiscuit, Secretariat, a Rachel Alexandra, a Zenyatta.............or a Ruffian.
@horsegirlsforever what the hell are you talking about?!/!!!!!?????
@horsegirlsforever she did not get slaughtered she broke down
Get your facts straight
Of course she should be buried with her good blankets, since she shouldn't have been racing at all, given her age! Disgusting thoroughbred trainers, that's you Michael Matz. You know better than to run a horse at that age, but keep it up, let's all watch babies die.
Ruffian should never have ran because in her last race she did trip and in the vid she IS limping. I'm sorry but 've owned racehorses and when they run against colts, it's never any good. No good EVER comes out of a match race.
She was a good horse but she doesn't compare to Secretariat.
Sec's records in EACH triple crown race still stand...as does the WORLD record for 1 1/2 miles on dirt... CASE CLOSED
"As God is my witness, she might be even BETTER than Secretariat" -Lucien Laurin, trainer of the immortal Secretariat
Pointless (and unfair) to compare ANY racehorse to Secretariat. We all know that Big Red was in a class by himself, and will always be.
Personally I don’t think he should have been declared winner Ruffian came up lame. Obviously these people only wanted to win and be better than her.. 😒
I suspect you would feel differently if your champion horse had hundreds of thousands of dollars in earnings on the line, and a potential blank spot in their career record. How would you have the race recorded? That Foolish Pleasure was disqualified? What happened wasn't his fault.
Professional athletic competitions don't change rules because someone gets seriously hurt. Boxers sometimes get fatally injured in the ring: their opponent is declared the winner. Ruffian would have been declared winner if Foolish Pleasure had broken down. That's the way the rules work; if a horse doesn't finish the race for any reason, they forfeit purse money. It's true whether it's a match race or a 20 horse race. Foolish Pleasure's owners had every right to collect the first place money, though they didn't feel good about it. Horses get first place money for walkovers, races in which no one else is entered. They're very rare, but they have occurred: the great Spectacular Bid won the 1980 Woodward in a walkover.
Ruffian's owners forfeited any second place money planned, and would not have resented the way things
were handled, because they knew the rules.
Yes, Foolish's Pleasure's connections wanted to win,
they were proud of their Kentucky Derby winning colt, but they did *not* want to win this way, because they knew all too well the race failed to prove which horse was superior that day. They were very somber in the aftermath of the race. The only person who was ungracious about what had happened was the father of Foolish Pleasure's trainer (not FP's trainer Leroy Jolley) who made a vulgar, unwarranted comment about Ruffian. His remarks were some of the worst sportsmanship I've ever heard reported.
Actually the rider of foolish pleasure didn't know what to do when ruffian broke her leg. he didn't know if he should just run out the race or stop. i think he made a good disicion to just keep going and run out the race. if you watch the Original race you dont even see him trying. he kinda let his horse run a little bit until he is at the finish.
Will you stop and think about what you said? With one exception (the father of Foolish Pleasure's trainer) the people connected with Foolish Pleasure were deeply upset about what happened to Ruffian, for precisely the reason you state.
Yes, they wanted to prove their horse was better than her -- and vice versa, btw, on the part of Ruffian's handlers. Foolish Pleasure 's connections KNEW THE RACE DID NOT PROVE ANYTHING. They were upset about Ruffian's injury, both for the loss of a great champion, but also for their own horse's sake. It was an empty victory, and they were appropriately subdued. (With, as I said, the exception of LeRoy Jolley's father.) In any other sport it would work this way. If during final of a major tennis tournament, one of the two players gets injured and pulls out during the match, the remaining player is going to be declared winner.
marysueeasteregg calm down haha
@horsegirlsforever Excuse me? Please learn proper English first off and she sadly died due to a broken leg and a failure at the surgery and i see her grave everyday i'm at Belmont.
It was a bad decision trying to have a Filly try to keep up with that Stallion. Foolish Pleasure was clearly pulling away and her heart and determiantion made her go past her abilities. But Ruffian was a great horse no doubt about that. Her trainer should be commended with his common sense. Dumb decision
Wrong!!! She was in front when she broke down, and I'm sure she would have won it. They were only going a mile and a quarter, the same distance as the Kentucky Derby. She had set track records at that distance, and the Oaks that she won that year was the same distance as the Belmont (1 and a half miles), and her time for the Oaks was faster than that year's Belmont. Foolish Pleasure's Derby was slower than Ruffian's time for the same distance.
@@janetgriffiths7200 Ruffian had never run a race previously at 1 1/4 miles prior to the Match, so she could not have set track records at that distance or have beaten Foolish Pleasure's Derby time. Her non-sprint races had been at 1 mile (Acorn), 1 1/8 miles (Mother Goose) and 1 1/2 miles (Coaching Club American Oaks). She had set or equaled *stakes* records in each of those races, as she had in her prior 5 stakes starts. But not track records. The only track records Ruffian ever set were at the sprint distance of 5 1/2 furlongs at Belmont and Aqueduct (plus her unofficial "2-year-old track record" for 6 furlongs at Saratoga). (Source: entry on Ruffian in Thoroughbred Greats.)
You are correct that her time for the Coaching Club American Oaks was faster than the winning time for that year's Belmont. Her time would have won something like 3/4 of the Belmonts of the past 40 years.