@ Got it! Thank you so much! I’ve used my sl2s and have gotten really clean photos at iso 25000 after some NR in lightroom. Definitely considering the sl3-s moving forward!
nick, at 10:17 that noise isn't really a problem, it looks like film grain from Ilford Hp5+ at 1600/3200 ASA, and thats pushed 3 or 4 stops, and thats quite nice grain; or from natively shot Kodak EkTar 100 when zoomed in, and they say 'worlds finest grain' for this!, so not too bad for a digital sensor.
Thank you so much for yr video. I own a SL601 and the SL2 in silver 😅. But: For sports there's only one (sorry Nikon): Canon R1. I'm not a fanboy at all. I use Nikon, Canon and Leica. M for light travel and Canon 5D series for heavy 😅 travel with lots of L lenses. Nikon is on repair right now 😊. What's always disturbing on Leica SL is the joystick which is always messing up my settings if I walk around. I don't want to turn it of and on again within minutes! That's why I love Canon. Still lots of improvements to learn for Leica. Sorry but I rather buy a 1DXIII (not an R cam) than another Leica SL. Another minus: The menue and the buttons... there's often a huge change!! That's anoying. Canon have almost the same kind of buttons and menues sincs ages!! Faitrly no huge changes since the Canon 50D! ... 20 yrs ago ...😊
SL2-S user here, shooting without hesitation at ISO 25000. - What? That at 9:58 is at ISO 200000??? Is it shot in Vivid colour mode? Absolutely stunning. - ➡️ That leads me to another point. From each other camera brand you get the camera’s internal colour profiles delivered by the raw file to Lightroom Classic, Capture 1, etc. - To make it clear, I am not talking about the Leica Looks what are only LUTs. I am talking about the STD, VIV, NAT, BW-Nat, BW-Hc calibration profiles. Those are profiles, non destructively applied to the RAW data, you can change them at any time, like you can switch between e.g. the Adobe Standard, Adobe Landscape or Adobe Color profile in LrC. Leica is the single brand, not supporting its customers with that in body profiles. That is to me quite an issue because I love the BW-HC and I can’t use it in LrC what is quite a pity, no, let’s name it even a shame. I had several times contact with the Leica support on that issue, but it looks like they don’t understand what I am talking about or won’t or are not allowed to. - In case of you don’t use other brands as Leica, you might also never have seen it before in LrC, Lr or ACR, if so, please don’t hesitate to contact me, you find everything for it in my YT profile.
I understand the question. And no, you cannot choose a LRc Profile to match the in-camera Film Styles found in the Jpg settings. I know this is possible with other brands, but not for Leica. This has been requested many times but I do not know why it is not available. Next time I am speaking to a Leica Product Manager I will ask...
@ Hi Nick, thanks for replying. If your initiative finally would bring the Leica camera profiles to LrC to make the DNGs editable based on the Leica profiles you become the hero of millions of Leica users. I honestly can’t understand why it is missing. It’s like Leica shooting themselves into the knees. That’s the central thing about Leica: to be able to edit the images based on the exceptional good in body profiles. With the jpgs professionally editing isn’t possible. I am asking for this since decades.
You are right - so I don't know why it can't be done internally. But is there really much practical and visible difference between Prores Raw and Prores HQ 4.2.2? Maybe if you are doing seriously stylised grading but having worked with raw filming with the SL2-S, the extra gear and workflow cost was not worth it - for me anyways....
Removing brand names and seeing what actually performs and the build quality/OS. This camera doesn't deliver to the extent that it should. Not being a hater, rather seeing it neutrally and objectively.
Best camera presentation over RUclips! Congrats!!!
Glad you think so!
Thanks for another excellent video Nick
I’m glad you enjoyed it.
Greetings, is the 12bit raw external via hdmi open gate? And do we know what forms of raw codex?
RAW recording is yet to be made available, I have no prior knowledge of how it will work and what the tech specs will be.
Is 96Mp only with electronic shutter?
Yes.
Thanks for the heads up about being able to use multi mode handheld. Brilliant.
I am glad you found that useful!
I'm intrested in your set up for the external hard drive which you had attached in the video Thanks in advance
It’s an SSD bracket from SmallRig. Screws into the tripod socket or any other standard rig cage.
What’s the highest ISO that you’ve used for video? Very interesting camera!
I regularly shoot video at ISO12500: remember, for video, post production NR is more complex and time consuming than for stills.
@ Got it! Thank you so much! I’ve used my sl2s and have gotten really clean photos at iso 25000 after some NR in lightroom. Definitely considering the sl3-s moving forward!
nick, at 10:17 that noise isn't really a problem, it looks like film grain from Ilford Hp5+ at 1600/3200 ASA, and thats pushed 3 or 4 stops, and thats quite nice grain; or from natively shot Kodak EkTar 100 when zoomed in, and they say 'worlds finest grain' for this!, so not too bad for a digital sensor.
Thank you so much for yr video. I own a SL601 and the SL2 in silver 😅.
But: For sports there's only one (sorry Nikon): Canon R1. I'm not a fanboy at all. I use Nikon, Canon and Leica. M for light travel and Canon 5D series for heavy 😅 travel with lots of L lenses. Nikon is on repair right now 😊.
What's always disturbing on Leica SL is the joystick which is always messing up my settings if I walk around. I don't want to turn it of and on again within minutes! That's why I love Canon.
Still lots of improvements to learn for Leica.
Sorry but I rather buy a 1DXIII (not an R cam) than another Leica SL. Another minus: The menue and the buttons... there's often a huge change!! That's anoying.
Canon have almost the same kind of buttons and menues sincs ages!! Faitrly no huge changes since the Canon 50D! ... 20 yrs ago ...😊
SL2-S user here, shooting without hesitation at ISO 25000. - What? That at 9:58 is at ISO 200000??? Is it shot in Vivid colour mode? Absolutely stunning. - ➡️ That leads me to another point. From each other camera brand you get the camera’s internal colour profiles delivered by the raw file to Lightroom Classic, Capture 1, etc. - To make it clear, I am not talking about the Leica Looks what are only LUTs. I am talking about the STD, VIV, NAT, BW-Nat, BW-Hc calibration profiles. Those are profiles, non destructively applied to the RAW data, you can change them at any time, like you can switch between e.g. the Adobe Standard, Adobe Landscape or Adobe Color profile in LrC. Leica is the single brand, not supporting its customers with that in body profiles. That is to me quite an issue because I love the BW-HC and I can’t use it in LrC what is quite a pity, no, let’s name it even a shame. I had several times contact with the Leica support on that issue, but it looks like they don’t understand what I am talking about or won’t or are not allowed to. - In case of you don’t use other brands as Leica, you might also never have seen it before in LrC, Lr or ACR, if so, please don’t hesitate to contact me, you find everything for it in my YT profile.
I understand the question. And no, you cannot choose a LRc Profile to match the in-camera Film Styles found in the Jpg settings. I know this is possible with other brands, but not for Leica. This has been requested many times but I do not know why it is not available. Next time I am speaking to a Leica Product Manager I will ask...
@ Hi Nick, thanks for replying. If your initiative finally would bring the Leica camera profiles to LrC to make the DNGs editable based on the Leica profiles you become the hero of millions of Leica users. I honestly can’t understand why it is missing. It’s like Leica shooting themselves into the knees. That’s the central thing about Leica: to be able to edit the images based on the exceptional good in body profiles. With the jpgs professionally editing isn’t possible. I am asking for this since decades.
much better focus than the prior 3 sl's
If only the Leica SL3-S had internal ProRes Raw. So close to being an upgrade for my S5II X.
I think very few cameras record genuine raw internally. Huge data rate!
@ ProRes HQ has larger data rates than ProRes Raw and that’s included in the SL3-S.
You are right - so I don't know why it can't be done internally. But is there really much practical and visible difference between Prores Raw and Prores HQ 4.2.2? Maybe if you are doing seriously stylised grading but having worked with raw filming with the SL2-S, the extra gear and workflow cost was not worth it - for me anyways....
Removing brand names and seeing what actually performs and the build quality/OS. This camera doesn't deliver to the extent that it should. Not being a hater, rather seeing it neutrally and objectively.