I Was Threatened with Arrest at the Kenya - Tanzania Border

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  • @hjordisfammestad9836
    @hjordisfammestad9836 2 года назад +44

    As an expat living in Tanzania, I wish you had picked the jail option! You would have seen fear in the eyes of the immigration officer who knew he was playing games with you! So sad that you had to experience this. You’re right in not letting this experience taint your feelings.

    • @josbleau794
      @josbleau794 2 года назад +3

      I agree with Hjordis, you should have said that you would go to jail. Things would have taken a different course. Then ask to talk to a lawyer or to your embassy. You may have had to pay something to get out of there anyways but this officer would have been taken by surprise seeing that his scam was not working with you. Unfortunately this is sometimes how it works in Africa. I was an expat too in few different subsaharian countries. Thanks for sharing your story.

  • @Butterfly-jt6cr
    @Butterfly-jt6cr 2 года назад +78

    Charging someone $100 sounds suspicious when the visa is up to 90 days. So glad you're talking about it and spreading awareness. Don't be afraid to pursue it further and report it to immigration to stop corruption.

    • @danrgn5078
      @danrgn5078 2 года назад +2

      Good shout. I would follow up with the British embassy too

    • @jamajama2401
      @jamajama2401 2 года назад +2

      Kenya most corrupt country in Africa police will ask you money no matter what. In Kenya all authority very corrupted.

    • @rmboch
      @rmboch 2 года назад +2

      I wish he can follow through from his Country and get the border post dealt with

    • @omahabred9466
      @omahabred9466 2 года назад +4

      @@jamajama2401 Tanzania is no different either, their police extorted me money because they saw I was different and had different plate numbers. Just as corrupt as Kenya but less developed

    • @jamajama2401
      @jamajama2401 2 года назад

      @עדר אסיאטי
      Not all African countries, Kenya is worst. Tourists wants to see culture, wildlife and landscape of Africa. This is not Israel can't even move one inch due conflict last 70 year's civilians carry guns inarkets.

  • @martindavis3466
    @martindavis3466 2 года назад +43

    I've been to Kenya many times, including living there for a year. It's a good bet that your money went directly into the pocket of the customs official. Bribery/exhortation is rampant among government officials of all kinds in Kenya.

    • @kevinfred2885
      @kevinfred2885 2 года назад

      Never pay! for such stuff, help stop corruption.

    • @宋心悦-k4j
      @宋心悦-k4j 7 месяцев назад

      Is there any way to deal with such situation if I'm trapped into it?like calling to the embassy or the police? I'll go to Tanzania as an exchange student and may visit Kenya too through the border.

  • @chris-fv3ob
    @chris-fv3ob 2 года назад +32

    This is what has been dragging Kenya behind. By now this country could be a middle income economy but corruption, kleptocracy & oligarchy are our major setbacks.Thanks for sharing out your experience.

    • @MarkyTeriyaki
      @MarkyTeriyaki 2 года назад +2

      I experienced the same thing when traveling Kenya-Tanzania-Uganda. Always some bullshit.

    • @chris-fv3ob
      @chris-fv3ob 2 года назад

      @@MarkyTeriyaki Sorry for the experience,in the local dialect they call it kitu kidogo or chai. So retrogressive.

    • @lilac8794
      @lilac8794 2 года назад

      @@MarkyTeriyaki I experienced worse when i visited Norway. Dont come here expecting good treatment when your country treats us badly

    • @MarkyTeriyaki
      @MarkyTeriyaki 2 года назад

      @@lilac8794 I doubt it was worse than having an AK pointed at your face while border patrol demands you to give them your coca cola.

  • @rohand96
    @rohand96 2 года назад +17

    Hey Mate! My name is Rohan and I am
    from Australia. I’ve lived in Kenya for 12 years. I’ve been in this situation before as the last two years I was on a tourist visa to meet
    my family in Kenya. In 2016, I experienced this while going to Uganda. Next time just remember to tell them that you would consult your embassy regarding this and inform them you have been detained. I’ve found really helpful people in my embassy who are able to deal with corrupt people like this. Once they hear about this, they will just not want to deal with this. Hope that helps!

    • @biniam2301
      @biniam2301 2 года назад

      Agree it work for me crossing Senegal, Gamba border . When you tell them let me call my embassy they don’t like it 😅

  • @r.otaviano
    @r.otaviano 2 года назад +45

    I've been to a few African countries and had a great time. But also heard similar stories from other travelers. It's an easy way for some border officers to make some cash. If it happens again, ask for a receipt. I heard from one traveler who said they gave up on the fine as soon as he asked for one.

    • @veronicadivi3449
      @veronicadivi3449 2 года назад +1

      very well done

    • @isaac198428
      @isaac198428 2 года назад +5

      Sounds reasonable in theory but the reality is that you do not want to stir the pot. You're asking for trouble if trying to argue or talk your way out of such a situation by bringing out reasonable justification and unfortunately for you, it doesn't work that way in Africa.
      You can get away in Europe/America asking for receipts and information but at a remote border town/village in Africa its simply not wise to be a smart guy. The 'law' doesn't apply in some of those places. It's all made up like he said, at the discretion of whoever has the authority over you.
      Now in the big city like hotels, yes they'll have in when you ask for a receipt but not at a border crossing.

    • @Eddyke
      @Eddyke 2 года назад

      @@isaac198428 we Wacha pang'ang'a

    • @Eddyke
      @Eddyke 2 года назад

      @Afrikan Trekker no one disagrees but still stupid talk

  • @camchristian1480
    @camchristian1480 2 года назад +20

    Sorry this happened to you. The african continent can be a wonderful place but has sooooo much work to do in terms of tourism safety, corruption and overall respect towards others. I hope you dont take it to heart, it would literally happen to most people.

  • @syedshah3467
    @syedshah3467 2 года назад +2

    You explained a thick situation without showing any resentment and with paying full respect to the country and the people. Really deserve lots of appreciation. Keep uploding. Your videos are really informative and enjoyable.

  • @ExitStrategyTV
    @ExitStrategyTV 2 года назад +12

    Welcome to Africa. It's been this way since 2007 when the same thing happened to me, except we were searched and held for 4 hours before being able to move on because we refused to give them money to pay a "fine". Heading to Nairobi-Lamu this Summer and glad you got through safe!

    • @kevophoenix872
      @kevophoenix872 2 года назад +2

      Anytime this happens, just call your travel agency or someone in your embassy

  • @dianatv3933
    @dianatv3933 Год назад +1

    One thing most people don't know is the guy at the port of entry has discretion on how long you will stay, so always confirm and check twice. Even when you come to the US on a B2 Visa, the person at the port of entry can give you a week, a Month, 3 Months or the max 6 Months...you have to check what length of time you were given on the I9 to confirm how long to stay, it's not automatic that you get 6 Months. Same applies to visiting most Countries, he/she can decide to give you a week say for example if your reason for the visit is a short engagement. One thing to do, as someone suggested before, is to explicitly say you would like 3 Months. Love your Kenya series by the way. I'm from Kenya living in the US and every time I binge on my homeland travel videos especially when I'm about to visit home. You are very brave and adventurous. Still, I'm sure that guy pocketed the money. So sad because if we got rid of corruption Kenya would be a great Country. I subscribed!

  • @tronixfix
    @tronixfix 2 года назад +11

    To see exactly how long you’re allowed to stay… check the handwritten stuff above the entry stamp. Should looks like “KVP/3M/H” KVP stands for a Kenyan Visitor Pass, 3M is the Months you can stay and H is for Mombasa entry. Below the visa stamp is the officers “SEV” identification number. If your kenyan visa stamp said “KVP/1M/…” would mean you can really stay only one month. Would be very interesting to see if they just wanted to “mzungu” you before you leave or if the visa was really expired. Hope to get an answere.

    • @vmurt
      @vmurt 2 года назад +1

      Yes exact same thing happened to me & I didn't know - thought I had 90 days but he had marked (@ nairobi airport) KVP/1M & didn't tell me. SO I also had to bribe the guy when I crossed into TZ.

    • @tronixfix
      @tronixfix 2 года назад

      @@vmurt wow… my fist kenya entry was like three years ago but back then i got 3M 😧

  • @petearmstrong2778
    @petearmstrong2778 2 года назад +10

    Border crossings in Africa (and no doubt other parts of the world) have been known to have spurious entry or exit charges which when paid most likely does not go to the Government.

  • @thesimatei2372
    @thesimatei2372 2 года назад +3

    He conned you!
    I am a Kenyan born Brit and I will definitely ensure that these officers shouldn’t be robbing tourists!

  • @barbiechyqa9192
    @barbiechyqa9192 2 года назад +9

    I'm sorry you went through this. Your Kenyan series made me start watching your videos. Not sure how immigration works, but seems like they extorted you, especially if they didn't give you a receipt. Corruption works because you will be too frustrated and unsure of the legalities to challenge them. Glad you made it out safely. I hope you have more fun in TZ than you had in our country. People are much nicer there.

    • @irenedavo3768
      @irenedavo3768 2 года назад

      Do you watch Jim Nduruchi Kenya 🇰🇪

  • @ClaudeJoseph_ke
    @ClaudeJoseph_ke 2 года назад +3

    Hey brother Already in Tanzania...You inspire me to Work Always Hard each day

  • @neilr199
    @neilr199 2 года назад +3

    It’s good that you talked about this and it should be a warning to foreign tourists. If Kenya need more tourists they should have proper immigration guide lines published just like any other country. Glad you managed to get out of this situation although you had to pay USD 100.

  • @davidkamau6820
    @davidkamau6820 2 года назад +5

    You have shared a positive aspect of Kenya..I am sad that one guy had to ruin the good image. I hate corruption in our country. It is like a disease. Sorry for the unfortunate incidence.

  • @scotthardesty
    @scotthardesty 2 года назад +2

    I just came back from bring spending 18 days in Tanzania (climbed Mt Kilimanjaro and Safari) then 6 days in Zanzibar. One major thing I noticed is that the police are going for the "cash grab." We rented a car and was stopped by the police at a roadside checkpoint. The informed us that all our paperwork was correct but then asked for a "gift" for being in Zanzibar. So I am not surprised they did that to you.

    • @irenewile
      @irenewile 2 года назад +2

      But those are Not Tanzanians , they're Kenyans.. and Tanzania 🇹🇿 it depends...Not all are Like that.. Tanzania is even much better when it comes to corruption.

    • @snowangelnc
      @snowangelnc 2 года назад

      @@irenewile When I was in Tanzania my host drove me a few places. He was Tanzanian and the local police picked on him too. Whenever we went through a particular area this same cop would pull him over, license check or something like that. Then they'd chat for a moment until the officer said "Don't you want to buy me a cup of coffee?" Then my host would hand him the equivalent of 5 USD and we'd be allowed to leave. I asked if that happened often. He said yes, that was just something they had to accept if the wanted to go about their business in peace. So you're right, it's not all of them. In Zimbabwe it was the same thing. My host there told me that most citizens jokingly referred to the police as the money collectors. So you're right, it's not all of them. Many are actually on the receiving end of the exact same behavior. When talking about the population of an entire country it's extremely inaccurate to attribute behaviors to every single one of them.

  • @GabrielTravelerVideos
    @GabrielTravelerVideos 2 года назад +30

    Bummer situation and always scary in the moment when you don't know how it's going to go. It sounds very scammy, things should be more clear as far as how long you're allowed to stay. But all considering $100 isn't too bad to be able to carry on with your day. A fair bit better than arrest at least eh?

    • @lenalindley8643
      @lenalindley8643 2 года назад +8

      This is so funny. I think of you Gabriel, and Jason as the same type of you tubers. You don’t do sponsorships so your videos never feel like a sell. I love that you guys follow each other and interact. That’s cool!

    • @maryrosed8475
      @maryrosed8475 2 года назад +2

      Just a way for border guards to make extra cash. 100 dollars is a lot to a Kenyan! It does put people off travelling to some countries. You save hard for your holidays, you do not need to be threatened with jail. I have n e ver been to Kenya but I believe it is fascinating!

    • @JasonBillamTravel
      @JasonBillamTravel  2 года назад +9

      That’s right, I didn’t want to keep arguing because I knew it would only drag on and possibly get me in more trouble. Was thankful he didn’t ask for more!

    • @RubmaLione
      @RubmaLione 2 года назад +5

      $100 USD is an absolute scam though. Other countries also issue fines if visitors overstay their visas, and it's usually closer to a few dollars per day, not $20.

    • @omahabred9466
      @omahabred9466 2 года назад

      @@RubmaLione clearly you haven’t been to all countries, same thing happened in Brazil, they charged 170 US dollars

  • @EvoWatches
    @EvoWatches 2 года назад +3

    That was highly illegal.

  • @simplehomechannel
    @simplehomechannel 2 года назад +2

    Sorry about that 😕 your malindi vlog was the best thank you for that. 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 🇰🇪 is beautiful 😍 🤩 karibu tena Otieno....

  • @edstraker8451
    @edstraker8451 2 года назад +2

    Same thing happened to me some years ago. Last I heard was the corrupt official was caught red-handed by his boss. His punishment was to be sent to work in a malaria infested outpost in the middle of nowhere. Swings and roundabouts.

  • @Linda-td5si
    @Linda-td5si 2 года назад +2

    Oh, Jason! So glad you are safe. Something sounds fishy there. Must have been a shock to hear 30 days when you were thinking 90 days. You did the wise thing by giving then no argument, only cooperation, polite inquiry, paid them, and got out of there. Looking forward to more videos from you. Wish I could go with all of you to Morocco. I have lost two jobs since beginning of covid, so I do not have enough resources to go. Hope to join you on an adventure some other year. All the best!😲❤🕊

  • @vmurt
    @vmurt 2 года назад +1

    OMG exact same thing happened to me but at the border crossing between Kenya & Tanzania, but at the Lunga-Lunga crossing. Also had to pay $100 USD - same thing, threatened with arrest etc etc. Initially he was charging $500USD, but we bargained him down to $100.

  • @suzannemaina4773
    @suzannemaina4773 2 года назад +1

    Jason, I am so so sorry for that experience. It sounds scammy and very unfounded, and as a Kenyan, I am so disappointed by that misguided immigration officer. He is not the total representation of the people of Kenya or our policies, please accept my most sincere apology on behalf of Kenyans and that corrupt individual. Please visit Kenya again, may our borders always be open to you and may this affliction not arise a second time. You are doing a great job, keep it up.

  • @ALMcK70
    @ALMcK70 2 года назад +11

    Honey, you were made to pay a bribe. Let's just state it plainly. It's unfortunately very common in...certain...countries. Some seem to fund their governments off of bribes alone. You will definitely have experiences like this from time to time. Love the vlog!

    • @mwamussa
      @mwamussa 2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the honesty!!! People LOVE to live in denial!

  • @parkash9999
    @parkash9999 2 года назад +2

    You rightly said that something is fishy about your experience at the border. That is really a strange explanation of visit visa rule by that officer. But nice you shared it with your viewers.

  • @fredmidtgaard5487
    @fredmidtgaard5487 2 года назад +4

    I have been 30 years in Tanzania and never had any problem and actually no corruption. But because of the stories I heard about Kenya I never went to Kenya. Most foreigners (I know) that want to extend their 90 days visas (in Tanzania) fly to South Africa, not to Kenya because of the extreme police corruption in Kenya.

  • @eddie86614
    @eddie86614 2 года назад +3

    Hey man been following your journey through Kenya! Very inspiring and amazing 🤩
    One question about the visa issue from this video.. did you not get a receipt for your evisa or some documentation that says when it’s valid from and when it’s valid to? And did they give you a receipt for the fine you paid in Tanzania?

    • @jamesfowler415
      @jamesfowler415 2 года назад

      Lol...they NEVER give you any paperwork

  • @geniusloci6324
    @geniusloci6324 2 года назад

    It was a very awful situation! I really apriciated that didn't change your opinion of the country that is very beautiful, like the people that you met in your trip. Greeting to all the honest Kenyans people, keep it up!

  • @psyopguy
    @psyopguy 2 года назад +3

    A friend who lives here part time told me in advance about it. When I got of the plane in Mombasa and went to the passport control, I showed the officer the eVisa and then asked for a 90 days visa stamp. So he did just that, and on my passport there is the stamp and 3 months written with his pen. I think the kenya government is keeping this area unclear just for the exact purpose of feeding its dirty officers with more Mzungu bribe money. Long live Kenya :/

  • @rmboch
    @rmboch 2 года назад +1

    Sorry about your experience. I'm a Kenyan and would really encourage you to return someday. Such shrewd border officials exist which is disturbing. I'm sure he just extorted you ( it shld've bn 90 days)
    Hopefully your next visit will be much more fulfilling. Keep sharing your experiences

    • @costonmarkon3788
      @costonmarkon3788 2 года назад +1

      We will never comeback ...!!! We don't do that sh** t

    • @rmboch
      @rmboch 2 года назад

      @@costonmarkon3788 I understand

  • @willismwamburi9381
    @willismwamburi9381 2 года назад +1

    Its sad to hear what you went through at the boarder, i wish our government could have a direct contact in regards to ironing out such issues in a clear outright manner.

  • @oceejekwam6829
    @oceejekwam6829 2 года назад

    You could have asked to speak to his superior.
    It appears you "took it all in your stride...". Kudos, for not letting it "sour your experience" .

  • @jacqdanieles
    @jacqdanieles 2 года назад +15

    You're a seasoned traveller so I'm surprised you have not been checking the duration of stay stamped on your passport.
    Rule of thumb for any country:
    1) make sure the passport is stamped,
    2) verify length of stay they've stamped
    3) do this before leaving the immigration counter.
    There are reports of some countries intentionally not stamping the arrival so that they can shake down the traveler later on.

    • @JasonBillamTravel
      @JasonBillamTravel  2 года назад +12

      I had an entry date stamped, but no note or mention of a duration (in my passport or verbally on arrival). In hindsight I should have verified the number of days when entering the country. I suppose that I’m so used to reading the info online, and never having any issues, that it took an incident like this for me to take note and be more wary in the future.

    • @suzukigsxfa9683
      @suzukigsxfa9683 2 года назад

      I doubt there is a conspiracy. Occams razor says it's just incompetence on the way in being taken advantage of on the way out

    • @Worldwide_Hodge
      @Worldwide_Hodge 2 года назад +2

      @@JasonBillamTravel I am in Kenya now; the visa is always 90 days.
      They took advantage of you

    • @tuforu4
      @tuforu4 2 года назад +1

      Rule of thumb CHECK THE JUDICIARY RATING ON GLOBAL INDEXES..KENYA IS RATED 139.

    • @KennedyShikhule
      @KennedyShikhule 2 года назад +1

      Very true, I happen to go in and out of countries in East and South Africa and one has to counter confirm clearly the duration of stay given depending on what one is going to do can be as little as 1 week or 1 month or 3 months.

  • @sologj
    @sologj 2 года назад +2

    This happens to us Kenyans too. I went to the USA on a b1/2 visa. The validity of stay is usually 6 months with these. Anyway at immigration I could see the guy had an attitude with me. He stamped me in but wrote on the entry stamp 1 month with his pen. This after telling him I was visiting for 6 weeks and with a return ticket for the same.
    I decided to enjoy my 6 week holiday and when I was leaving there were no problems. And yes I've been back another 4 times with no issues and no handwritten 'stamps'

    • @mwamussa
      @mwamussa 2 года назад +1

      LOL STOP IT!!!! You were never asked to pay a "fine" so stop with the negativity and skewed perception!

    • @michaelb5331
      @michaelb5331 2 года назад

      I agree you try to lie, if you would say I will stay 6 months and have sufficient money they would stamp 6 months on your passport..

    • @sologj
      @sologj 2 года назад

      @@michaelb5331 Just reporting on an incident I had.

    • @sologj
      @sologj 2 года назад

      @@mwamussa how is it a skewed perception when it really did happen to me?

  • @ritastiles24178815
    @ritastiles24178815 2 года назад +6

    Jason, it was a scam. Thank goodness you are okay. I admire you a lot. I really appreciate your videos. They are fascinating. I won't forget to keep you in my prayers. May God always protect you.

  • @marymccaffrey3859
    @marymccaffrey3859 2 года назад

    Jason as you will find Tanzania is one of the most beautiful countries the people friendly.
    My guess is that this official was trying his luck ? I am glad you paid it rather than being arrested which would have caused more hardship and you may have had to pay as well. Glad you are safe ☘️

  • @KiniWakini254
    @KiniWakini254 2 года назад +1

    Next time you’re in kenya, opt to be arrested then call your embassy! I’m from Kenya and corruption can get insane even to the locals!

  • @lotegeluakilengai5443
    @lotegeluakilengai5443 2 года назад +1

    He robbed you. I am so sorry you had a bad and unfortunate experience. The government officials should look into this and deal appropriately with these unethical employees.

  • @Bmarker299
    @Bmarker299 2 года назад

    I am just glad that you are safe. I am so sorry that you had this negative encounter. I am glad that you shared it. To be frank, it hurts the reputation of Kenya and and Kenyans when a few of their countrymen behave as badly as this officer did

  • @lizsharpe1031
    @lizsharpe1031 2 года назад

    You handled it well Jason...so glad you are okay. Good to let others know these issues can come up and best to stay cool🌍

  • @abdulhakimhasan7673
    @abdulhakimhasan7673 2 года назад

    Hello Jason , kenya is a wonderful country , come back again and again .

  • @craigadams4143
    @craigadams4143 2 года назад +2

    Wow what a story! Glad you are safe. That happens in the US , too. Here it's usually automobile repairs where a shop will charge you double or triple the repair cost because they know you are traveling due to license plate being out of state. On a totally superficial note, I see the logo/symbol on your shirts quite a bit. Is that your logo or a travel wear logo that you prefer? Just curious...🕵️

    • @PorkHunt0
      @PorkHunt0 2 года назад

      It's the AllSaints (British) clothing brand skull logo😉

    • @craigadams4143
      @craigadams4143 2 года назад +1

      @@PorkHunt0 good to know! THXS!

  • @Jpkjr52
    @Jpkjr52 2 года назад +1

    Enjoying your journey. John in Chicago

  • @mirandastephens4586
    @mirandastephens4586 2 года назад

    The guy who stamps you in is the guy who gives you the number of days. I just crossed from Tanzania to Kenya at Namanga and was given 90 days. A visa says, on the paper itself, it is no guarantee of entry.

  • @rebeccanewman8956
    @rebeccanewman8956 2 года назад +1

    I had a similar situation in Tanzania, I hadn't realised the evisa started on the day you apply online. So when I entered Tanzania I only had 2 months left on the visa instead of 3. Maybe this was the issue?.

  • @technosteed4644
    @technosteed4644 2 года назад

    I had the exact same experience with the shuttle crossing from Vietnam to Laos. Big packages even between passenger's legs. The van also had a secret compartment under some seats. They smuggle stuff through the border.

  • @saidbinali5675
    @saidbinali5675 2 года назад

    This is advice to check the entry stamp and not rely on evisa. Same thing happen to me, I got 1 month and realised it when I was leaving. I overstayed by 1 week unknowingly. Thankfully was not fined.

  • @meridaohara6453
    @meridaohara6453 2 года назад

    I've been in a similar situation, best advise is to bluntly choose jail. The corruption would cease right then and there.

    • @freedomm
      @freedomm 2 года назад

      Kenyans actually blame people who give in and pay bribes for perpetuating corruption. Refuse to pay, they won't do anything to you.

  • @TravelerYaser
    @TravelerYaser 2 года назад +2

    Glad you made it out safely! It is indeed a weird situation. I think you could have negotiated and brought it down to $50 USD but I understand if you weren't in the mood of arguing. However, when he can take advantage of one successfully, he will do the same more and more to others.
    It is funny how borders work in Africa. Basically, there are no rules. Just go by luck and see how it goes.
    Take Care and Stay Safe

    • @JeromeArmstrong
      @JeromeArmstrong 2 года назад

      pft. Way too much. Pay him 20k in shillings $5 and that's way more than enough. This was not a reason to pay..

  • @isaac198428
    @isaac198428 2 года назад +1

    I'm a Kenyan living in the US and this is disappointing but a far too common occurrence. Rule of the thumb while visiting ANY country in Africa or South America (third world/poor countries); Always carry extra cash in local currency for tips and bribes if you don't want to get stranded somewhere since you already stand out because you can't simply blend in like a local.

  • @globallibran378
    @globallibran378 2 года назад

    Hi Jason as your new sub ( who happened to have also stayed in Judiths airbnb in Nairobi) I feel like this vlog was useful to let others understand some of the challenges while traveling. I also liked how you calmly spoke about your experience in a blameless way as you being a seasoned traveler know that things are not always what they seem and each country has a plethora of different rules and expectations from the next. Here's some additional info from my experiences while traveling. I too had an awesome time in Kenya and have come to love the country and people there so much I may end up living there.. Unless insulated strange things pop up during traveling. If the border officer did shake you down bad on him and glad you had the funds to clear yourself. But let's explore the border issue and visas. The USA where I call home has strict visa rules as well. The nuances of up to 90 days in Kenya ( as also in Tanzania in both countries for myself on a US passport) seems set but in US some visitors visa can give you up to 6 months on landing but the immigration officer can limit it to a week or two. If you don't check your I-94 status online you may not know and in fact stay the full 6 months and get in trouble or lose your ability to return here when you try to in the future. Interestingly one of my worst border experience to date was by the British border force at the Callais , France border while on a bus returning from París to London. The agent handles me rough. He wanted my proof of money, who I was going to stay with in England, and insisted that I show him my departure ticket leaving London. I had to dig thru my old email to find the email confirming my ticket purchase months earlier, as no one walks around with tickets anymore. After holding up the bus for 45 mins to have me satisfy all his demands he jokingly said I was lucky as he was just about to jail me if I didn't produce the ticket. This was my 4th trip to England and I was puzzled why all of a suden I was treated so harshly. When on the bus no one else ( American tourists or British residents ) I spoke to was asked any such questions. I even wrote to the British border Force asking why it happened, and they gave me a bland answer saying it was just a random selection which happens all the time. Nonetheless travelers travel so I have chalked that up to a one off and kept it moving since.

    • @JasonBillamTravel
      @JasonBillamTravel  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for sharing. Travel can certainly be unpredictable at times. We just have to prepare as best we can and then let the chips fall where they may!

  • @Mickman007
    @Mickman007 2 года назад +4

    Border official's are sometimes scammers especially in remote places It sounds very much like a scam to me, I had an experience in Nong Khai Thailand on the Mekong river opposite Laos and an official offered me a deal when I wanted a visa extension but I was sensible enough to refuse any 'deal' as they can twist the situation and arrest you, the deal was to stamp me in and out of Laos for a sum of money as he said the extension wasn't allowed in Nong Khai so I just grabbed my passport and left to go on overstay paying the fine when I left the country.

  • @haydmooge7070
    @haydmooge7070 2 года назад

    I had the same issue in Zambia. Tourist visa is 90 days or 3 months but it's given for 30 days first and then you have to go and extend for another 30 days just before the first one expires and so forth. I had gone over 5 days in the first 30 days without extension and was threatend with fines and arrest

  • @calumscott6417
    @calumscott6417 2 года назад +1

    Am glad ur still with us love u🌈❤️

  • @resianemaculate.
    @resianemaculate. 2 года назад +1

    @Jason Billiam Travel,
    Kenya is a beautiful and a lovely country.
    The corruption is very high expecially if you don't have someone like a tour guide to help you around.
    It's so unfortunate and I really repent for what our Kenyan guy did to you Otieno.

  • @RetoHartinger
    @RetoHartinger 2 года назад +1

    once when I entered Kenya the told me at the border that they only give me visa for 30 days. But the visa said 90 days. So I did not bother and went out after 91 days. They said to me I overstayed 1 day and let me go without bothering me any further. I you case I would have said I can only pay you via Mesa. Then he would have refused because there was a prove that he took the money for himself and he d be in big trouble. If he insisted I d have ask him his name and maybe even his ID card number. If he did not et me go by then I d called a friend and dictate his id number. By then he would have got it that he is in big problems and might have let me go. But anyway it is not a big deal and you did the right thing by paying this guy

  • @MattDiamondFlix
    @MattDiamondFlix 2 года назад +2

    $100 is the magic number anytime we "do something wrong" here.
    Next time you're right and they're wrong, tell them to give you a moment to speak with your EMBASSY. Likely you'll be waved thru without another word of nonsense. They fear losing their job.
    I've been extorted in Kenya and Uganda. I too focus on positive stories for now, but it comes a point that we have to share these stories also.

  • @righttoknowwiththomas9178
    @righttoknowwiththomas9178 2 года назад +1

    Tweet this experience to Director immigration copy to State house ,Cabinet secretary Fred Matiangi and Brithish High Commission .We shall call for action

  • @fredotike8449
    @fredotike8449 2 года назад

    Waw!! Are you finally leaving us? How were Kenya and RUclips's viewership? I like your content slow and precise.

  • @Alimahrooi
    @Alimahrooi 2 года назад

    It's normal for east Africa and you did the right thing to avoid delay your tour.

  • @IansWorldTravels
    @IansWorldTravels 2 года назад

    Good to hear that this time you have encountered this scam in all your travels. I too have been lucky.

  • @Anji2010100
    @Anji2010100 2 года назад

    The stamp when you enter the country specifies how many days you are given. Check the stamp. Nog the visa.

  • @danrgn5078
    @danrgn5078 2 года назад +2

    Damn I hear you. Something similar happened to me at the US border control once, the immigration officer was an idiot, on a real power trip - needless to say I was shit*ing myself. These random surprises by border officers can be awful and terrifying. You did the right thing by playing it dumb and cool at the end, they have the upper hand after all. It’s always best to nod and smile your way through when in these situations. Glad you got thru.

    • @miriamondigo6970
      @miriamondigo6970 2 года назад

      Thanks. It happens in every country not just Kenya

    • @danrgn5078
      @danrgn5078 2 года назад +1

      @@miriamondigo6970 this was definitely a scam tho. My holdup in the US was due to not having a return ticket. I’m talking about the impact these sort of interactions with border officers can have on the traveller as you’re caught off guard and can be terrifying.

    • @veronicadivi3449
      @veronicadivi3449 2 года назад

      yeah many places around the world do have the same issue

    • @mwamussa
      @mwamussa 2 года назад

      @@danrgn5078 LOL STOP IT!!! They never asked you to pay a "fee" or bribe, and you WERE IN THE WRONG!!! Leave your ego at the door and ADMIT YOU MADE A HUGE MISTAKE by not having a return ticket and stop letting your ego get in the way!!!! They do not play in the US, you must do everything in a straightforward manner in America or you're in trouble. It is a land of rules.

    • @mwamussa
      @mwamussa 2 года назад

      @@miriamondigo6970 HE WAS IN THE WRONG TO START WITH. He had no return ticket and was shucking and jiving and now he wants to put the blame on Immigration for his fishy behavior? It does NOT happen in every country, this guy did the wrong thing and thought he was going to get away with it. Don't blanket the whole world like that.

  • @moll5086
    @moll5086 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing

  • @Ankunda717
    @Ankunda717 2 года назад

    Hello Jason
    I work for the Kenyan Anti Corruption Unit and would like to get in touch with you because that border agent needs to be prosecuted. please how can I get in touch with you.

  • @madsmoelgaard3646
    @madsmoelgaard3646 Год назад

    No matter if you have the e-visa it is the stamp in your passport that shows how many days you get, so always check your stamp in the passport as you usually get either 30 days or 90 days.
    The stamp will always show that, and is the only way to be sure.

  • @stephenogbuabia2293
    @stephenogbuabia2293 2 года назад

    It is good you talked about this, chances are that money you paid will go into his pocket. Talking about it may help to make the higher authorities know what their border officials are up to.

  • @nck2310
    @nck2310 2 года назад

    Please expose the names of that CORRUPT official coz such a person,should NOT be working in any office.Im a Kenyan but living in Sweden.

  • @ektorkornoo8806
    @ektorkornoo8806 2 года назад +1

    Did you get a proper official receipt for the 'fine'? That might say something about this encounter. Perhaps more traveled borders are better than this particular one. Do ask around. Best wishes.

  • @Tusker78TogetherForever
    @Tusker78TogetherForever Год назад

    You should always check your visa stamp after your arrival to ascertain the number of days you are given 1m/2m/3m its the hand written line above the stamp;) If you need 90 days always ask otherwise its at the discretion of the immigration officer. You can always extend your visa at an immigration office if you want more time! Lesson learnt!

  • @allthingsafricannana
    @allthingsafricannana 2 года назад

    So sorry of what happened to you

  • @tiktaktow2000
    @tiktaktow2000 2 года назад

    Hi, sorry to hear that. By the way, the immigration officer always writes by hand the length of visa. The will write as 1M, 2M or 3M….M stands for Month. Please check your passport what is written then let us know.

  • @sharleenjlo7672
    @sharleenjlo7672 2 года назад

    Sorry for that Jason. Am from Kenya

  • @suzukigsxfa9683
    @suzukigsxfa9683 2 года назад

    Dude mate you're a legend

  • @sharonjanethague7181
    @sharonjanethague7181 2 года назад

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    Your border experience sounds like extortion to me. Lovely footage, as usual. Do take care! All the best.

  • @girlanonymous
    @girlanonymous 2 года назад

    Scary but glad youre safe.

  • @samthomas6045
    @samthomas6045 2 года назад

    An old fashioned shakedown.
    Glad you got through safely.

  • @Spy_X744
    @Spy_X744 2 года назад

    That was quite a bummer. I can imagine how devastated you were when those officials charged you extra money to cross the border. That is outright scammy. Good thing you didn't lose your cool even when you realized that they were lying. I hope your stay in Tanzania will be worthwhile. You are most welcome to Kenya again.

  • @xdgs567z
    @xdgs567z 2 года назад

    Most important thing is that you are safe and arrived at your destination to make more videos for us to watch 😄

  • @PrudenceUchi
    @PrudenceUchi 2 года назад

    Thanks Mr. Billam , first sorry for what you went through, and it's high time those government officials who did that to you serve as an example by being made to refund back the money they robbed you and go to jail. Such acts spoil the good name of our country, something has to be done against corrupt officials.

  • @salimbaasba6159
    @salimbaasba6159 2 года назад

    I visit Kenya every year, and evisa is always 90 days, just on November last year was there and evisa duration is the same, 90 days.

  • @CalligraphyLovelyQuotes
    @CalligraphyLovelyQuotes 2 года назад

    Wish you recorded that encounter with a hidden camera so that all those fools cN be sacked. I wish someone does that very soon. Take it easy, pole sana

  • @andybaker2456
    @andybaker2456 2 года назад +4

    I suspect he may have dined out well on that 80 quid that night...

    • @ish8891
      @ish8891 2 года назад

      Lmaooo 💀

  • @laila8091
    @laila8091 2 года назад +1

    Jason I'm in the horn of Africa now and this has happened to me too.

  • @sorfina
    @sorfina 2 года назад

    Corruption! So sorry to hear what you went thru.

  • @benanderson4118
    @benanderson4118 2 года назад

    The immigration agent on entry can give you what he wants. If you ask for 3 months you'll get it. They write the length above the entry stamp in pen. It will say "3 mths" or similar. You can bargain with those guys if you overstay. Just stay friendly. Also, legally you're only supposed to stay in Kenya 6 months during a year on tourist visas. That is a relatively new rule.

  • @kevinfred2885
    @kevinfred2885 2 года назад

    In Kenya always walk with a local, or have someone to escort you who loves travel. Make friends on the bus etc.

  • @dr.baotran8448
    @dr.baotran8448 2 года назад +1

    Wow, I'm sorry to hear that....it sounds very fishy and they are making money off of you. That's really sad and sorry how they take advantage of the system.

  • @netasiaswitzerland3182
    @netasiaswitzerland3182 2 года назад

    It has been like this always, when you enter Kenya you are asked how long you will stay in Kenya on a form or verbally by the officer. They give you then what you ask for up to 90 days. Did you get a reciept for the fine?

  • @bankerdave888
    @bankerdave888 2 года назад +1

    There are so many first-world countries to explore.

  • @jimmccann320
    @jimmccann320 2 года назад

    Silly question: Did you get a receipt for the £80 paid? (btw I always have "secret stash" of £150 in sterling when travelling)

  • @hughjass7330
    @hughjass7330 2 года назад

    Please show this video to the Kenyan tourism board. How shocking

  • @ladychi7618
    @ladychi7618 2 года назад

    Just a question for everyone saying he should have reported in to the police ministry and other officials... Aren't they just the same people? Don't they just protect their own? It could easily just lead to more problems. Remember you are in foreign land..it can be quiet uncomfortable and scary...

  • @KennedyShikhule
    @KennedyShikhule 2 года назад

    Hi I'm Kenyan and I happen to travel alot within East and Southern African on land borders. I must agree that customs officials are always fishy anywhere but whenever you enter a country you have to counter confirm the number of days they have allowed you in e.g if I go into Uganda I am entitled to a stay of 90 days but they do ask what I am going to do and length of my stay hence at times the stamp is usually valid for as little as 1 or 2 weeks. Always counter confirm the no. Of days you are allowed.

  • @revelation333
    @revelation333 2 года назад +2

    UpTo 90 days should be 90 days maximum stay, they took bribe and you had no choice which is not your fault. Corruption is the main problem, you should have recorded him and exposed him.

    • @westmax8491
      @westmax8491 2 года назад

      Corruption will not end in that continent since for the police officers, it's a supplemental income.

  • @HarlyMarcuap
    @HarlyMarcuap 2 года назад

    Hi Jason! I've been following your channel for years! Anyway, having experienced a few immigration checks in Africa, this experience of yours has become pretty "normal" to me. These guys will find ways to make money out of non-Africans. It's best to prepare small bills to give these guys. I guess it's just how things are going to be until something is done to stop this impression that non-Africans can easily spare 100 usd or so lol.

    • @omahabred9466
      @omahabred9466 2 года назад +1

      As an American frequent visitor to Africa I’ve not had any issues personally but I’ve witnessed ‘these guys’ extorting their own Africans as well , but I’ve seen a lot of extortion in remote parts of Asia as well, it’s not only in ‘Africa’

    • @mwamussa
      @mwamussa 2 года назад

      @@omahabred9466 basically in places where rule of law and poverty are endemic.

  • @eacoincmubiru5894
    @eacoincmubiru5894 2 года назад

    Sorry for your experience. Did the officer issue you a receipt? If not ask for a receipt or insist on paying through a government portal or app. That way you can gauge whether this is fishy or not.