USMC Social Experiment:Gender Integrated Combat Training - Crucible (Marine Reacts)
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Fight as you train and train as you fight. Thank you for your service and these videos.
The reason they wear desert camies in training is safety concerns. This doesn't happen just in recruit training this happens in units as well. Where if you are stationed stateside or at a training ground you will wear the opposite color of the season. This way in case anyone is injured or lost they can very quickly be spotted.
The girls i went to boot-camp with wanted to go "fuck marines at fort sill ok" they were good shots, good team workers, & really loved serving. it was all new in 2000 at fort Leonard Wood we had split floors bunks, same common rooms, did the same push-ups , same sit-ups & same runs ,,, some girls are fast runners by the way..
I know it works in the Army just watch 68 whiskey the tv show...
i did this in boot camp and nothing in the Crucible is tough at all except humping with all the weight up those hills and then the lack of sleep and you get 1 MRE butits not hard to go 3 days without eating as long as you have water
I completed boot camp back in 2000. 4th Battalion only had 2 companies and we trained next to a brother battalion. This is nothing like what I did. The other video is closer to it but everything eventually changes. Honestly though, I question if these female recruits would have made it through the training back then. I totally get why all the old seasoned dogs were shacking their heads at us fresh fish now. Simper Fi
"Being gender diverse just for the sake of being gender diverse doesn't make sense, I want a lethal fighting force." Couldn't have said it better myself
Gender bender's, what a great idea!!
OORAH!
Except that it won’t. It will be like in the Army, two different standards for male and female Marines. There is really no other way to do it. If it was one standard only a fraction of the female Marines could stay in. I promise you politicians will not allow a purge of females from the Marine Corps.
@@procinctu1 And there it is: two different standards. When I was in the CAF Reserves, they had different standards for females and promoted them far faster than the rest of us. Don't get me wrong; I trained with a few fine female soldiers. But there were also more than a few that knew how to work the system to do less and get more. And those were the ones that I would have never gone into battle with. They were weak and I couldn't trust them.
Do you want a purge of females from the Corps? I just think the distraction aspect of male attracted to female and vice versa is to much to deal with?
"We won't lower the standards"
_lowers the standards_
men doesnt mean stronger. women doesnt mean weaker. look at the individual. i am a male and i cannot do but 1 pullup right now. and i am a retired marine. go f'n figure. i am autistic too.
@@tboy221 So you're a weak male.
@@tboy221 then you're a weak male, simple
@@tboy221 men does mean stronger, women does mean weaker, generally speaking. a weak male might be weaker than a strong woman, but that doesn't change the general truth of the matter. We are a species with a high degree of sexual dimorphism. Doesn't mean women are worth less in any way. Its just physical differences in strength due to the way we evolved.
If we are going to integrate the military, then the rules should be flat, with no consideration for sex whatsoever. You bunk together, you have the same requirements, the same tasks, and the same expectations. If it means that these have to be lowered, then it obviously means that integration is a failure and it was a terrible idea. Nothing should lower the performance of our military just for political reasons.
@@tboy221 good thing you're not in the army then I just want someone who can do like 50
My son is in the Corp now. He told me something that broke my heart... During the first week of basic training in San Diego, his Senior Drill instructor told his platoon not to worry, they will ALL pass... He said he was trying to get promoted and his cutting score depended on the number of recruits he passed... Disgraceful....😢
Im not sure if the tone changed but in 99 they said something a bit simular. Though the way it was phrased is we'll recycle you till you pass.
😢😢😢
We have been compromised😢
My son just graduated from Parris Island 1 week ago. His DI's told them the opposite, if that helps any. They started with 48 in their platoon and graduated 38. All but 2 of those were kicked out, the 2 were rolled back.
Bs
When I was in the 82nd airborne I had one female soldier who I was glad to have in my team. She was strong and didn’t expect any type of special consideration when it came to the job at hand. Loved her. She was a battle buddy. On the other hand, as much as I love women and I love my daughters, most of the time in my personal experience, the women were treated with a lot of special privilege. We were all the same MOS but somehow they landed the comfy indoor A/C jobs, rarely went to the field and when we were at the motor pool, well…… yeah. All I can say is that if you are going to be a soldier regardless of your sex or ethnicity, age or any other variable. The standards cannot waiver. It tears apart the whole team.
That is the standard in pretty much any field. Women always gravitate to cushy jobs.
Stop treating women like little “flowers” when it comes to becoming a Marine. Either be as hard as the men, or quit. Don’t lower the expectations just to get more people to join, it’s not fair.
@jesus rodriguez Some one's triggered :/
Facts bro women get it easy. But they are somehow "equal"?
Notice those elbows in front lean and rest when in penalty box?
@jesus rodriguez I see no tears only fax
Yea im with u.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
― Sun Tzu, The Art of War
China is watching while eating popcorn, America.
women comprise 4.5% of the people's liberation army. from the first female general, fu hao, who lived about 3200 years ago, to the 12 women generals who serve in the pla today, women's frequent presence has been observed in both regular and irregular chinese military formations in it´s 5000 years of history. cultural and ideological support for women's military participation has also been frequent. military service is one of the social mobility channels which allow women to achieve or hope for social recognition or higher status in otherwise culturally stiff asian society.
@@Redmanticore Means nothing. Western civilization is emasculating its men. Masculinity and virility are considered bad values now in the West.
@@MrHeuvaladao Just stick to your cliche Sun Tzu quotes because your arguments besides that are weak
@@Redmanticore So what. They still haven't feminized their forces even after 3200 years.
@@AlleyCatGhost The thing is, no one is busy argueing while fighting, you dumbass.
I'm Army, not a Marine. Much respect to you guys by the way. I was active duty about 30 years ago, but I still recall our instructors in basic actually firing an M60 over our heads while negotiating barbed wire obstacles in the mud. They also used actual pyrotechnic explosions to simulate grenade and artillery strikes rather than just playing audio over a speaker. Does anybody else have these fond memories?
Hell yes! Even at POG heaven, Relaxing Jackson!
Yes we still do nick at night but with m240s and the simulated grenade
Yup, up at Fort Ord many moons ago..
Back in 1986 we go on field training maneuvers in either northern training area or central training area in okinawa. Every single time the females held us back or couldn't complete the training. Every single time. It was a moral killer.
forcing diversity into the military is a blessing for the enemy forces.
I don't see a problem with diversity. I do see it with the forcing part though. Diversity should be accepted but only as means to improve. Hence, the required standards should not be different to accommodate diversity. Standards should always go higher, of course with various different levels according to the job. But when you're talking about the same job, standards should be the same regardless of gender or whatever else.
Everything the Left touches; it ruins. They don’t care what you do as long as it’s mandatory.
We can pretend like politicians are stupid and cry about that, but they not. They are completely aware of outcome. Same in economy. Soviet Union communists that infiltrated USA long ago make it easy for China😏
totally XD
You know how it will power up any soldier who can find a "woman" enemy if she is good looking, she will regret joining the armies lol
@@WastedTalent83 harsh but true
Well at least when the bodies start stacking up when your unit is wiped, there will be a diversity of corpses for the enemy to step over.
Golden comment.....😂😂😂
🎯
Sheeeesh
@@imfreaking_gaming8785 Harsh reality :v
Finally equal body counts is proof of equality ❤
Went through this back in 1998. I just can't believe the lack of urgency. If we went anywhere, it was with a purpose. That one recruit TALKING to a drill instructor would not have happened even during the crucible when the drill instructors treated us more like humans.I have been out of boot camp over 20 years and I can still remember Sgt Tomilson with his elbow to my chest because I didn't sound off loud enough. But I feel the same way with my kids and their friends. They know that there are no consequences. They know that they can't fail
Back in my day, rolling my eyes at my Drill Instructors would’ve resulted in magically going blind afterwards. Our corps is being weakened and all we can do is sit back and watch.
I remember the good old days when "inclusion" meant not denying anyone a place as long as they had the skills, and not giving a place to anyone regardless of skill level in order to fill some arbitrary imaginary quota.
America is slitting it's own throat & those in charge don't care.
@Jackie Zwiefelhofer Obama sure liked wars. When Trump brought troops back home the democrats gave him no credit.
While Biden had already deployed troops to the Middle east.
@Jackie Zwiefelhofer Not every war is a pointless war and on the standpoint of the soldier it really doesn’t matter at the moment. Your job is to do your duty and be the best at it. At the end of the day, they’re the ultimate line of defense to ensure survival of the nation.
@@charleswalter2902 Because that's the intention on the ones in top since the start...
@Jackie Zwiefelhofer Color doesn't mean crap. If your acting a fool and killing innocent women and children and men then those people are the ones looking to us or others to save them. But you just keep playing that bullshit race card if it works for you.
"I can do this, I have to prove it to Onii-chan"
you dirty fucking weeb.... I'm so proud of you.
Lol
HAHA
Instead of doing it to protect your country smh🤦🏽♂️
@@Kumorini onii-chan is greater motivation
The whole thing is going to fail and fall apart the second they have to go into real combat against a real opponent.
As an Army retiree, thank you for sharing this. I’m old enough to not have trained with females- and credit to them for their efforts, but such integration is foolish.
They're just letting them do it so that they learn the hard way why it was men doing it... Its gonna be a rude awakening but they'll be weeded out, and they will change the policy back one day
They shave heads to save time, prevent head lice, make uniform. Give enemy hand to hand combat one less thing to grab, deter fashion focus. You're not an individual, you're a part of a machine.
It is some bs that the women don't shave their heads. The Sargent that is boning them must not like it. Only reason I could think of to why they don't also shave their heads.
And you don't have the time, energy, and resources to maintain a luxury like long hair. In the field you barely have enough time to eat and you rarely have time to get enough sleep. If you have long hair in the field then you need to maintain it by brushing it and "fixing" it so it works with helmets and MOPP gear... that's time you just don't have. You shave it off so you can focus on the task at hand. To be honest, going days and even weeks without showering or bathing makes you feel just plain gross. Having hair on your head just adds to that.
well if men and women are equal, make the ladies shave their heads too
Or let guys bun up their hair, but that won't happen
lol
Yes, please!
I’ve always wondered about that. If hair is a distraction, then everyone should cut it right?
its a society thing, its normal for a man to have short/shaved hair, its not normal for women
... AND THEY HAVE AS A MOTTO : " FEROCITY, SACRIFICE, VICTORY". they make me laugh ...
You’re absolutely correct Sir.
I went through back in ‘89 and it was a lot, lot tougher than this.
This looks like candy camp to me. Everyone is so nice and polite
Try 1976 .
"Am I saying women are weaker"
Yes, I am. That's generally the rule. Exceptions apply.
plenty of women out there that can whip your sorry ass.
The dude was probably scared to say it
Those exceptions weight 300 lbs and are in no condition to be of any military use
@@c4sb2008 still doesn't prove that women are naturally stronger than men lol
@@buggs6608 I never said it did did i?
"Let's do things that make sense for God's sakes" amen, Jameson
desert camo while in the woods. wtf. Marine Corps lets start training like we have been there. damn,
Let's do something in your religious practice with your specific god. That is pushing your religion on a diverse population. Not everyone is of your beliefs. I guess I could assume everyone is a buddhist and demand others do practices of my religion if I did not respect others have different paths and wanted to push my religion.
@@montiliusbeatty9831 I think you misunderstood the way he was using that phrase, he didn't mean it religiously and neither did I. (I'm not religious anyway...) he just wants people to use common sense and I was agreeing with him
I believe the Desert cammies for the "warm half of the year" and the woodland cammies for the cold half of the year". But those recruits moved in slow motion getting those racks ready 😂
@@jekyllhidingWhat's up doc? why would you respond to that? 🤪 Ha ha ha
Roll your eyes at a drill instructor? In ‘86 you’d be half way out the door, but you’d lose your arms doing push ups until the sun went down first, even get yourself a trip to the DI’s quarters - alone - with 4 DI’s screaming in your face HOPING you’d make a move so they can take your head off. Pathetic.
I can't believe this. It's hard to watch what's happening to my Corps.
I've been out for 12 years and I probably can take on the new set that's coming in.
I remember in 05 my senior drill instructor said that “Mothers of America is doing their damndest to ruin my Marine Corps” It looks like they have succeeded. This is embarrassing.
Just like the anti-gun group Moms Demand Action. Maybe if they were getting some action, they'd not be so eager to mess with things that they don't know shit about.
If things were bad back in 2005, before the rise of smartphones, no wonder why everything had gone to shit by 2021
We get into it with the chicoms...we're totally fucked. Hope it never happens or some older guys are still young enough to come out of retirement.
I agree
@serialcarpens290 "Mothers of America" have been around since well before 05, I completed bootcamp back in 94 and that same organization was attempting to make drastic changes within all the military back then. Organizations such as this, hell even some Politicians are going to be the downfall of our society by pushing these standards and not having the same equality for both genders.
These kids look like they're having a lot fun in summer camp.
exactly hahahah
Okay, there's absolutely not a single thing they did that I couldn't have done when I was 12... What did I just witness... My high school fitness tests were rougher than that.
Im a marine who graduated in March of 2021 from Parris Island. Just to comment on what you said about the desert cammies. So the reason they wear deserts during range week, BWT, and the Crucible is so recruits are easily noticeable they don't want the recruits to be able to camouflage themselves and possibly escape.
Men and women should have the same standards since they are “equal”
You’re mean. Or you mean mean equal opportunity should be served by fair and impartial evaluation of results. Which is mean if you believe in equality of outcome. I mean why even go to boot camp, just give them a trophy and gun, but be sure to capture all future moments on Tik Tok, for laughs.
That means we what equal opportunity, being treated equally with respect and paid equally. Men seem to think women think it makes us physically as strong as a guys. No but men have to remember there are women that can do the same stuff the men are doing even if its less make it and not all men make it either. We want the opportunity and equal right not just be told no.
@@DavidNefelimSlayer if it's equal outcome, it's equity not equality. Equality meant being sent to the same hell hole with the same opportunity as the next guy. If you have a horse, a fish, and a monkey climb a tree one would be standing upright, another dead on the ground and a certain someone sleeping on the highest branch. If you want those two on the top then you give the fish a breather and an exo and the horse a crane to carry him on the top, the monkey gets none he was evolved to climb anyway. That's an equal outcome but not an equal opportunity. Both managed to get on the top through augmentation while the monkey gets none but evolution, it's called equity by then.
Even as a girl I agree with this. Only 4 more years till I can join and I think about it every day
@@BC_fire_photography get some push ups, sit-ups, at least 30… walk for 4miles without stopping for a rest every week, and also ask someone to scream nonsense at you for half an hour and you'll be ready.
Did my basics in 94 and the 15 females we had all failed. The instructor made sure the best were graduating. One female made it to the field where we were carrying her stuff and sometimes even her. Once the instructors saw we were a good team, they told us no more helping her. During runs, we were literally running circles around her. She was very strong mentally but physically not on par with us. On the other hand, in the course before us, a woman was a beast! She could carry a 200 pounds man on her shoulders just like any man there. I would have gone to combat with that woman. She is/was the exception, not the standard. Today, the instructors go out of their ways to make women pass… thats sad.
Really is sad. That second woman you mentioned should be the standard for women serving. Plenty of other places for the women that would be liabilities there. It's okay for plans not to work out. We don't need to bend our needs & expectations so somebody's plans & dreams can be fulfilled...
Most reasonable people understand the issue isn't black and white but they are overshadowed by a loud group of people who want to feel included in every aspect of the world aside from reality. The fucked thing is that we will all be paying for this down the line - coming from somebody who knows they have no business serving on any battlefield. Any exception made during training is a failure to prepare these people for a significantly more unpleasant reality on the field. If they can't hack the training then everyone around them is being put at unreasonable risk, in a job that is already unreasonable. War has never made an exception for anyone's delusions of virtue.
Honestly, half of my class shouldn't have passed, including myself. And, I'm being modest in my estimate. X(
That is completely ignorant! Today just puts are men at risk!!!
True - the height standard is too low as well. A 5’0 woman is not the same as a 5’0 man, imo. Heightening the standard may help filter out those who are unable to compete physically.
at least that one recruit was honest. she joined because she needed the money. i was glad to hear she didnt mention freedom.
The softer the military becomes the more soldiers will lose their lives.
that is my biggest complaint. none of this helps the troops
@@JamesonsTravels thank you for your work i love your videos!
i thought marines were supposed to be feared, bad asses. Looks like training for the next COD tournament.
I swear dude. I struggled to get through this video. I’m just a teenager right now, and I plan on enlisting in the chair force next year and becoming a sere specialist and eventually a pj. I’m a Boy Scout right now, and as I’m watching this video, these people are complaining about the food and their conditions. I AM A BOY SCOUT and have been in worse conditions. Tent flooding, not eating anything the whole trip bc I forgot my stove like dumba$$, packing 16 miles with a 35 lb pack and camping in sub freezing temperatures. Ugh this pains me to see the supposed worlds best fighting force crying like a bunch of bit*hes because their MRE doesn’t taste good. What has this world come to my friend?
@@nathan8089 lmfao the marines aren’t as soft as this video, look at every boot camp video and try to notice a trend, even old ones where boot camp was much tougher. They dumb it down for the media. Guys still get smoked, hazing still exists dudes still piss shit and cry themselves in the squad bay all the good stuff. As for the bitching I doubt you would understand but enlisted guys just love to bitch. The newer generations have a different way of thinking however when in the field they act accordingly and well for the most part. The military has undoubtedly gotten softer but our military is not as pussified as you may believe
@@nathan8089 Thank you young knight, you have restored my faith. I know you will do well trying to become a PJ. Keep the faith brother.
@@nathan8089 your basic training will be easy. My daughter laughed that some girls were crying because they missed home. Physical fitness stuff was too easy she said. She volunteered for extra stuff like laundry so she could workout while stuff was washing. Don't get complacent in basic.
@@sostrucking Boot camp is more of a formality these days, it exists to condition basic mentality needed to follow orders and weed out the idiots who signed up without properly thinking it through.
Your absolutely right about getting complacent this whole company looks like its going to go through a hell of a lot of corrective training once they get their assignments.
The girls all having a cry session in the middle of the crucible=priceless...
Equality = equality in training .
The fewer the prouder 😂😂😂😂😂
"Empires rise wearing hobnail boots and fall wearing silk slippers".
Absolutely fucking astounding
There were men doing that as well...it's literally mentioned in the video WHY they're doing it. Shut the fuck up and pay attention.
The various branches of America's military are so important. And Marines are awesome. They are known worldwide as warriors! My youngest son joined the corp when he was 17. Thank you for these videos.
Thank you for your service, sir.
I do hope the terrorists don't go to hard on them, at least give them some extra time to get into position and let them have their circle time.
Hopefully
Give the Taliban safe space awareness training
We're the terrorists now, haven't you heard the news? :D
Actually the taliban is quiet gender diverse, they allow just about anyone to carry out a suicide attack
Its Islamophobic to shoot at Taliban or ISIS now.
If men have to shave their heads for being. Soldier, should not the Ws do the same? Where is the equality here?
One had corn rows, imagine a dude rocking a mohawk...
@Crackpipe Then maybe we shouldn't want those women to join.
@Crackpipe Who cares about tattoos? There's a practical reason for shaving heads.
@@eh7602 Go to war and return as a vet then talk to us about how practical it is. I'm guessing you read that somewhere?
Sorry not sorry but, I don't think I should believe some random yee-yee ass internet person who has nothing to prove their credibility
I said that in boot camp in 1985. Everything is easier for them.
"Of 100 men sent to battle, 10 shouldn't be there, 80 are targets, 9 are warriors, oh but that 1 will get them all home."
I volunteered for national service in Denmark 20 years ago. I think we had something like 4 women in the platoon. Morale and perfomance both suffered. We had to pick up their slack whenever things got physical, which they tend to in the army. They had little boxes to stand on to get through the obstacle course and we would often carry their equipment and they would never carry extra equipment like the radio or a tank mine (both about 10kg). These four also had their own barracks so they didn't need to sleep or shower with the men. Whenever training required us to strip (simulating cleaning after ABC attack for example) The men had to strip down in their presence but not the other way around. The women also had a number of sexual partners in the platoon which distracted and sparked rivalries.
I think it can work, but it will never work as well
Also the American Army field rations were so much better than the cold canned sludge we had. The U.S army does a good job keeping up morale with their rations. I wish we had them :)
I have heard the word "diversity" in the last few years more than I heard it in my entire life. And every time it was related to the stupid race and gender "issue".
and the longer you are here, da verse it gets !
You're the one having an emotional reaction. You're uncomfortable. Suck it up.
@@evileve *Women are typically coming from a place of delusional feminist indoctrination!* Their position is somewhat understandable, given our society's current twisted moral & cultural "norms"? Nonetheless, the tough love of the "TRUTH"_ which is something many people, particularly feminist, don't want to hear but it's needed!
Let me clear up & point this fact out first of all_ our modern technology and the build up of civilizations (Primarily built or invented by men. Not as a result of discrimination or holding women back? Just simply because of the innate differences between men & women, which is and always been a "normal" part of human development) throughout history until now, technology is the Only Thing or Reason why the luxury of "feminism" can even exist or thrive in our modern world 🌎.
The U.S. military, European countries, as well as other nations around the world have for quite a long time explored and experimented with bringing more women into the military. Especially in the USA_ this is done mostly due to pandering and placating to social group identity politics and today's political correctness epidemic. *Apparently_ plain ole facts, truth, and "reality" itself* has no place in the climate of today's cultural narratives?!
@@vickmurray5751 You're triggered and wasted all this time writing your little dissertation. Suck it up.
@@vickmurray5751 cope
This is so cringey what they did to my Marine Corps. Smh
now I really can say 'back in the old Corps' and its true.
Oh wow so correct. It makes me upset actually how cringey it is.
I was in boot in 2020... besides the “gender diversity,” standards are weakening, IT’s are time limited, we carried less weight in our packs, somehow fat bodies skated by, Instructors are treating it more like routine and dragging recruits through, and overall more shitbag marines are hitting the fleet or tapping out at SOI. The amount of entitlement and lack of discipline I’ve seen and have heard other NCO’s describe (mostly at MOS schools) is disheartening. I feel I didn’t earn the same title my Grandfather and Great Grandfather had earned.
What makes you thing this is YOUR Marine Corp? Brave new country...and none of us are welcome anymore
@@RipRoaringGarage how long did you serve in the Marine Corps?
I served in the navy with women back in 1985 and didn’t think women should be allowed to serve. They occupied shore duty billets which meant more sea duty for the men.
As a old man I think we should require everyone to serve for a few years after they finish their education. When they complete their required enlistment they’re trained and ready to enter the workforce.
We have plenty of badass green berets, delta, marsoc and seals. The girls are a good touch and make a fine contribution to moral. We were once like those kids and we thought we were tough but we were kids. Those kids aren’t warriors but they’re willing to give everything for us and ask nothing but the chance to serve us. I say let em serve all they want.
Was at PI early1980. We didn't have this version of the crucible. We set up shelter halves, didn't sleep in them. Did obstacles during the day. Patrols at night. Quick march every where. Had to march from the barracks to the training site and back.
Most of these recruits look and sound as deadly as a cuddly toy.
Not the best troops, but good enough.
They are servicable for extra body count.
Speak for yourself
Facial hair would make them at least look manly. Oh wait the military doesn't allow rights!
@@CornualAustin1 bro they literally do that because gas masks have a hard time sealing over beards what is your damage
@@fiddlesticks7245 why does someone with a desk job have to get shaved??? It literally makes no sense. If you're a firefighter or infantry, then yes, you should have to shave. But half the time, those firefighters get waivers not to shave. So whats the point?
Just spent 25mins watching a good man’s heart break.
Hello there.
Ja na I agree this man is so hard broke this is like pussy camp not bod camp
@@br4624 you pfp lol
They were being nice for the cameras, I loved being part of Hotel Co regardless. It was a good experience. Bootcamp is nothing like this😐 at least my experience. Don’t get me wrong in the end I loved me Drill Instructors, but mine were the ones that everyone in the Co knew and were afraid of.
I miss them🤣 you either leave bootcamp contemplating your whole life and hating your Drill Instructors or you love your life and become inspire to be a Drill Instructor. That will determine whether they did their jobs correctly to not.
It looks like a general public invitation to experience some soft emotions of life in the military.
"We want equality."
But we want our own spaces, we shouldn't have to cut our hair, and we should just get a pass when we can't do the physical aspects of the job.
I have a girl cousin that signed up for the air force, got there and decided she didn't like it. She said she was suicidal so she could get out, they let her out no questions asked and she still could sign back up. It's a total joke.
@WonderWaffles lol
The other branches you can just pretty much leave boot camp. In the Marine Corps though, they hold on to you till you get processed out. That can take up to or longer than how long it would take to graduate Marine Corps boot camp. Also while you're processing you will be on cleaning duty and errand duty. Also if they say they're depressed then they're not allowed to wear belts and what not so they don't kill themselves. Just a little insight at least in San Diego.
It's good that they make it easy for people to get out in basic. Those who can't hack it need to be gone. But it shouldn't penalize them all their lives. The military isn't for everybody.
I wouldn't want to serve with someone like that. Or have my son (who is currently stationed in South Korea) serve with someone like that. Get the squirrelly ones out so they don't get someone killed.
@@grizzley409 had plenty of trainees that wanted out and ended up on profile etc. they stayed longer than the rest of my class that graduated by becoming holdovers. some say it was them finishing paperwork, some say the DSs simply wanted to waste their time- either way they couldnt just leave
Your young girl cousin will never be hired for any government job her entire life now. Hope it was worth the lie.
When virtue and feelings are more important than results....
That's problem with Our beloved Country.. people are more worried about someone's "feelings" instead of the desired outcome. What happen to push your feelings aside and get the job done? Feel your feelings bowl up later, complete task at hand.
@@FullNelson007 "the job"... It's still war and we better end it.
What virtue? There’s no virtue from the left
I see a complete degradation of standards since my time @ mcrd San Diego 1042 series in 84 it's as if politicians have weakened and I mean to grave standards Parris Island I am disgusted looking at the training rolling eyes would have been "pit tour" time for the entire squad for hours. SMH, we as a nation are doomed if we don't rectify this pustification of the Marines.
@@thomasjefferson7584 indeed, however, they believe they are full of it....hence, all the signaling...
This is a video filled with the words never spoken… “BACK IN MY DAY!!!”
I'm 32 years old. Never in the military, never trained, honestly I barely excercise. None of those women intimidate me, neither do most of those men. Ofc some of them might be tougher than they look, but shouldn't most of them look tough? lol The old geezer reacting here would give me more pause to think than any of these kids. =P
If I rolled my eyes at my Drill Instructor in 2008 I would've been sent to Dental right after.
I did boot @ ft sill '07. Eye rolling resulted in a lot of broken glasses and patrol caps flying into orbit followed by iron mike retrieval but the DS would run up, recover and throw it farther in the woods.
Those were the best months of my life.
And u would've gotten a nice little settlement from the military for being assaulted.
@@KrolKaz Doubtful, hard to prove when no one will vouch for you falling off an obstacle in a training environment. If I were a fellow recruit, there would be no way I would support a fellow recruit who is being a dirtbag and my mouth would have remained shut. PC culture should not belong in the military when you are training to protect your brother/sisters in arms against people who want you dead.
Constable Dodo where exactly do they assemble you cry baby, gotta sue everyone, pussies?
@@14goldmedals new york
the fact they are even using the word "I" in bootcamp is stunning to me
@Machine Fack we literally had it drilled into up to say "this recruit" the army is 100% different than the Marines
I ... SIR
.LOL
@Machine Fack during the crucible they start to change you over from the “robot” to an actual marine that’s why they have 2 weeks after the crucible that are “marine weeks” so after boot camp you aren’t going into other training robotic and more as a marine.
Unfucking believable I tell you that much.
@Machine Fack I love pain pain is my friend if one never feels pain never feels alive.
You can roll over those bars without needing to roll one leg over and swing over. Cannot believe they are in the crucible and struggling. JUST WOW!
“Am I saying women aren’t as strong as men? No.”
The answer to that should be “yes” when did we get to the point where we are forced to neglect reality to avoid the outrage mob?
The new politically correct military, it isn't about who can do the job best, but about making sure everyone wins a prize.
Tru dat
The prize? Death because of WOKE politics. What the hell. Politicians don't send their kids.
True😔
Yeah from the generation of everyone gets a trophy. Sad!
They aren’t doing these kids any favors. A lot more of them are going to die.
No. That is not going to happen. The men will go into battle and the females will be promoted and be calling the shots from the rear. This is exactly what has happened in business and it will happen the same in the military. Females occupy all the low-risk jobs (marketing/HR/etc) while men take on the heaving lifting and high risk jobs (engineering/coding/high-level sales). Women are running things in The West. Look around. Does any of present day America look like it's well organized?
@@austntexan lmao we losing the next war
Okay Lori. But a lot will return knowing they did something great for the country.
@@austntexan At least most of the ones where I work understand that I know what I'm doing. Even the managers usually stay out of my way and support me when needed.
@@adox8574 Ye dude, bitch asses whining in youtube comment sections are definitely prime material for the foreign legion lmao.
I did Army basic in 1976, to roll your eyes at an instructor would have made for a very crappy day, ALL day!
I remember doing one 72hour training event with some females I was in an infantry company and they were with the combat engineers and were attached to us and of the eight females they had three of them including their corpsman became heat casualties before the end. No other marines were injured or reported any symptoms so maybe it was a coincidence but I would say it was likely physiological.
Not ONE of these people looked like the Marines I knew in the mid 70’s. I was Navy. Navy boot was a breeze. Most of the of us we’re fit before. Worked outside and did sports. The Marines had HARDCORE boot back then
Looks at the video of them in this video - ruclips.net/video/8p-ffvm-bpQ/видео.html. Only five years before the new kinder gentler movement.
you mean actual training exercises.
to be honest they looked nothing like recruits from just 2010... they are way too soft
Class of 1996. Yeah they look a lot softer or maybe I'm just getting older and harder.
35-40 years ago, a runner I knew, a fellow student, went to Marine Basic, how was it James ? "most dehumanizing experience I ever had", I'm a decent runner, and we ran so much that clothes "lathered up", you have 15 min for a shower, there are 10 shower heads and 200 men....he said it was very hot too...summertime in Paris Island...He was a quiet fellow before he went and even more so when he got back...
Feel like I'm litteraly watching my country collapse in real time
@Adolf Eisenhower
Got even worse during the 1960's counter culture revolution.
We are fucked when we go to war
@Adolf Eisenhower
I'd say it goes all the way back to the Civil War and then the rewriting of the Constitution in 1871.
It actually looks like a train wreck in slow-motion to me, I nightmare you can not wake up from..
When my older brother enlisted in the USMC in 1969, people were still dying in basic training. Thus was of course, during Vietnam. L. J.
While watching them walk thru the wiods, I staeted smelling the pine sap and feeling the crunch of the pine needles and bark under my feet from when I walked thru the woods of North Carolina with my Marines at Camp Lejeune.
For safety reasons, unless a woman has proven admission tests that she is as strong physically as the weakest marine male soldier, she should not be allowed to join because she'll put everyone else in danger when the real stuff happens. It's pathetic and they looked pathetic ...
Yep, we can't have liabilities on the field, only assets.
sexist much?
It is stupid too it puts lives in danger
@@Koakoa45 Illiterate much?
@@Koakoa45 blind to biology much?
America's enemys are looking into a bright future with an army this weak.
we've had problems since Clinton's rules of engagement
Americans enemies have female service members too.
@@helenanna752 Not frontline light infantry units, on the same level as Marines.
@UCZpCV9u79szJ9hh7vhga_5A they're not pushing for women in combat positions you moron they keep them in the back making tiktok videos
There's a reason why USA lost in Afghanistan you know.
3:45 yeah i love your reactions. you already realize what they're saying is basically showing the point of the whole training and military structure is mostly defeated by this.
I remember the ds smiling when we were suffering, as a matter of fact that was one of his responsibilities to harden our bodies and minds of course the heart is protected, the standards of Knox were high, not just physically but mentally and mentally everyone shouldn't make it through if they are the training isn't hard enough for training soldiers who will be able to return home alive.
When I went through ARMY basic in 1986, the standard training was tougher than this crap.
Yep same here. May 1986 Ft. Bliss, TX. Broke my ass down physically.
@@gregmunson7320 Ft. Polk, LA. special session. Senior drill didn't train recruits. He just made sure the reservist drills, that changed every two weeks, didn't do anything stupid.
Army, Ft. "Beginning" Benning 2002 here. Same here. We all used to joke about the coed training at Ft. "Relaxin" Jackson.
Army basic today is harder than this. At least in my training cycle.
@@swap_google_4_fdroid_n_newpipe yeah this is really sad.
I deployed with women in Afghanistan, they hid in the bunker while we were attacked for hours by a coordinated assault back in 2013. I’m glad they stayed there because I couldn’t trust any of them to fight the enemy after watching them at the range. They were only used for desk jobs and interior gate guards for the entire deployment.
Bro I’ve literally stopped combat operations during the first elections in Iraq to do a tampon run. I shit you not.
We got reinforced by some National Guard Stinger platoon. Well we get a call from that platoon that was guarding a police station asking if we were gonna be heading to our Airbase. Infantry lived in the city at the time so we’re like “Why tf you need to go to the airbase”
They came back with “feminine hygiene products”
My 3rd platoon sgt comes over the radio no sign or counter sign “Let the bitch bleed out. Fucking NCOs not doing proper PCIs.”
@ Not you: If those women cowered in the bunker while the men fought to repel the attack against your position, then they are not worthy - were not worthy - of wearing the uniform. And if they weren't worth anything to anyone actually functioning as the tip of the spear, what in heaven's name were they doing there in the first place? I'm just a civilian but even I know that every Marine is supposed to be a rifleman, able at any time to bring accurate fire to bear upon the enemy. On Guadalcanal in 1942, when the Japanese briefly broke through U.S. lines and threatened Henderson Field - every Marine there, officer or enlisted - clerk, supply officer, whatever - was handed a rifle and expected to fight. They did, too, and well. That was then, this is now - how fare we have fallen.
@@fathead8933 lol they should have to roll their own anyway
@@fathead8933 😅
@@ryucartel351 - Re: "Friend of mine served as combat medic in Afghanistan, told me he lost count of women DROPPING injured dudes trying to move them!!!! What the FUCK!"
Back in the 1980s when women first started entering the military in large numbers in non-traditional roles, the Army immediately began encountering women who could not keep up with their male peers on various soldierly tasks, such as throwing a grenade successfully or doing a fireman's carry of a wounded buddy to safety. Well, duh! What did the armed forces think was going to happen? Reality is going to keep on being reality, regardless of what the feminists and some bought-and-paid politicians and generals may think.
Instead of admitting their mistake openly and honestly, and dealing with the issue on that basis, the armed forces swept the data under the rug, lied and obfuscated about it, and pencil-whipped the results so that women scored as well as men. They also altered the tests - and eliminated some entirely - in order make boot camp/basic training more-female friendly. Instead of having throw a live grenade overhand at a more-distant target, the grenade toss was now over a low wall and could be performed underhanded. That way, the embarrassing fact that most female recruits could not throw a standard fragmentary grenade far-enough to escape its blast cone - would not be on-display in public. Instead of having to carry a wounded comrade by herself, it was allowed for teams of women to move the casualty.
Last but not least, the crowning achievement of Big Green was what they term "gender-norming," which is nothing more than a military-specific variation on the handicapping system used in golf. Women were given a separate and much less-difficult set of performance standards to meet in PT and elsewhere, which was bad-enough, but then they were awarded points equivalent to or greater than men, even though males had to meet higher and tougher standards in the first place. "Gender-norming" allows the services to lie to the public with a straight face that women are measuring up to the same standards as the men. It's all a giant falsehood and has been for decades now.
Forty years ago, when this nonsense was taking hold, the generals and admirals in command of our armed forces should have taken a stand to prevent the dilution of standards, if necessary by resigning en-mass. That would have forced a re-examination of the issue and maybe things would have been turned around. But the perfumed princes didn't do that. Instead, they turned their backs on their oaths, their respective services, the people under their command (male and female alike), and their country, the one they swore to defend. A very ugly and now-dangerous picture. Well, if we can't beat the communist Chinese in a straight-up fight, maybe they'll laugh themselves to death instead at how utterly idiotic we have become!
I am a retired Marine. I went in back in 1968 and got out in 1970. Spent my high senior trip in Vietnam. Myself personally think the Marine Corps has evolved into a lot softer than when I was in. It still has its strong points but there are many I don't see as good ideals. I think if Vietnam were to happen today a lot of guys would not be able to handle it and I know for a good fact the females would definitely would have no want to go there. Given it was in the mid 100's with the temps during the day and if lucky it got down to the 80's at night. Humidity was between 85-90 percent every day. Not once in a while for a couple of days but each and every day. The coolest I remember was during the monsoon season it was a high of 70 degrees with a low down into the 50's. It was cool enough that I shivered at night. When I went in we had to learn how to carry back a wounded brother along with all of his gear, his weapon and still be able to use our weapon if needed to be fired. Though we had suppressing fire from others but we needed to use ours if necessary. Not saying that there is not any women who could do that but they are far and few in between. Guys still need to be as tough as nails but there seems to be a lot more whining with them. Then again I am from what the young Marines call the old Corps and I find that funny since when I was in the WWII Marines were considered to be the old Corps. These are just opinions of an old crusty Marine. USMC Vietnam 69-70
We were the assault team, and had captured a stray defender, then took his MRE's and ate those too ; Only the good stuff (We had just missed the Sea Rations during this time). I remember hearing from one of the DI's that the overgrown airfield there had once had C130's with troops ready to go during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
As a Russian, I appreciate these positive changes in the US army.
I bet u do
@@skylovecraft2491 the joke! you missed it dumbass
As a Serbian, I can confirm. ✌👌
Ahaha ms too
😂😂😂
A team is only as strong as its weakest link 💀💀🤔
Especially in the military
I was thinking the same thing.
While there are women who can keep up with men in this type of thing most never will.
How many women could fireman carry a wounded soldier? Then compound that with soldiers that bulked up after boot camp?
I've done a lot of that crucible stuff just not in the military nor under that level of stress and pressure and know how physical it can be. Even now I still do it since we have a local group that formed at the request of our local sheriff.
At 55 I now struggle but we quickly learned all the women are in support roles not the physical ones.
@@JamesSmullins We don't even integrate sports. If these women think they can hang with men in a combat zone, especially in potentially close environments where physical conflict could occur perhaps we should start integrating them into men's football and rugby. Or perhaps match them up against men in the pongee sticks. Of course we don't though because everyone knows exactly what would happen.
Then this team is fucked XD
@@OverlordARG nice profile pic, we need drunk minions running rampant to distract from all this lunacy
The nacho cheese & dry ass crackers were the bomb!!! for me 🤣😂😅
I thought the marines would be like a bastion of sanity against the estabilishment, boy was i dead wrong
Didn’t the Marines do a study a few years back and found that gender integrated combat units were significantly weaker than all male units?
Yes...all male units smoked them>>>"The Marines created a battalion of 100 female and 300 male volunteers. During the past year, they trained in North Carolina and California, taking part in realistic combat exercises.
"All-male squads, the study found, performed better than mixed gender units across the board. The males were more accurate hitting targets, faster at climbing over obstacles, better at avoiding injuries.
@@klw3786 in other news, water is still wet.
Which is why China decided to instruct our politicians to institute it, of course.
SHHHHH!!!! How DARE YOU! How DARE YOU!... Sorry I was channeling my GraetaThumberg. You must only communicate RIGHT-THINK never WRONG-THINK.
@@IChIDH exactly! plus the deep cover multigenerational Soviet moles who grew up to become influential neocons and neoliberals that set government, media, social, education and economic policy in the United States: these Soviet moles now report to Russia.
Boys are shaving their heads:
Girls: u don't understand, it's different!
at least now we know hair was never a big deal lol
Short pixie haircuts for the girls. If they don't like that, shave them a buzz cut.
Ngl, I’m mad they don’t let us do buzzcuts. It’s a right of passage at this point.
Shave*
@@biniji9377 It used to be historically with historical sanitation habits (and a lack of supplies), but now lice, fleas, and many other disease-carrying, lovely crawlies are a lot less common in the military & civilian populace.
My last Class of ANOOC graduation was a All " Ball " Event . Nevermore
I was in the Marines from 1976 to 1980. I was not in an infantry unit, but in Airwing "Aviation Radar Repair", so we had a few WMs in our ranks. Every Woman Marine I served with just cried all the time, we all knew that they were a liability if we'd ever go into combat. Thank god we didn't have any women in boot camp training with us, and if there had been women drill instructors, I'd have never made it through, cuz I would have wound up laughing when they tried to talk tough to me.
Boot camp should be about breaking you down until you're less than nothing and building you back up ten times stronger. This is pathetic, in my opinion and, I pity our soldiers when they face real combat.
They won't ever face real combat. China will continue to buy America, and the rest of the world, and then one day you'll wake up in a Chinese province. There will be no war.
Thats exactly what the U.S. Army did in 1966 when I went in .
There's a purpose to doing that. We don't need whiney people giving opinions on how training to fight and survive the most deadly, hostile, mind fucking experience a human can face should be conducted. So long as the things that appear shitty from the outside have a useful purpose for that soldiers survival and combat readiness, then it belongs in the military. Obviously it does it's job because people that can't take it are weeded out. Either during training or before when they don't join.
Yeah I'm 38 and would run circles around most of these kids!
these kids look like theyre getting ready for an airsoft battle.
Exactly what I was thinking. More so that part where they were trying to simulate really combat sounds. It was so much like Airsoft RP.
Thank you for the fascinating content you produce JT.
Just a guess here, but maybe they wear dersert camouflage in order to be easily distinguished from the forest for the DI's?
@JamesonTravels totally agree with you in this, the DIs except for a few seem real soft allowing a lot of recruits half ass their way through boot camp, and yeah BWT wasn't a joke for us back then, day NAV night NAV was fun, we did the confidence course multiple times and was a killer for us at the very end of our 72hr BWT with a lot longer than a 1 mile hump back to the parade deck.
The data is in: combined getnder units are a fucking disaster.
The dod ignored it and carried on regardless
Cuz it politics man, politics.
Peminds me of the female f-14 pilots that were forced through training despite instructors saying they are not up to par. In the end one crashed the f-14 during a carrier landing and killed herself, due to pilot error.
@@CHAOS88100 what you missed: she crashed the f14 that shot down a mig not just any ole f14.
I feel so bad for the commentator. You can see the dissapointment on his face as the standards are lowered in every discipline. He really cares.
Because he’s a Marine vet. He is more than disappointed.
Kudos to the drill sergeant at the end
When I was in MCRD in San Diego in 1957 we had duck walking around the grinder as a punishment.Don’t know your left from your right , the DI hits you in the calf with the butt of his rifle. Or worse. No more squat jumps until you puke . On Sundays the DIs drew a circle in the sand. Two platoon jumped in the circle. Your platoon better have the last man standing.
I am not a veteran but this looks like a particularly more "intense" gym class...
I'd want lethality over diversity any day, like you said. Good god
Active duty here. Standards haven't been lowered, there are females that outperform males regularly. A lot of hip injuries on hikes and stuff because the gear isn't made for them. That being said, heavy weight and solid pave, passing the dudes. I've seen exceptions to that, but most females I've met have been very competent
@@obi-wankenobi6652 good to hear
@@obi-wankenobi6652 Fair enough, but I can say that was not the case when I was in. The standards for women were far lower than for the men when I went through boot and the same continued when I got to Germany. Lower PT standards, lower physical standards, more comp time for medical problems, not allowed to to deploy in sector when on real world deployments. All of these just meant the men of our units had to pick up the slack.
@@obi-wankenobi6652 your just making stuff up, but thats fine. Its fact that men have more testosterone then women and they have a diffrent bone stucture, its not that hard to see the facts, but i guess you want to be "woke", your cringe just stop
@@hvafuck8418 i never said me. Didn't have more testosterone. Also, women have lower PT requirements then men. That being said, female marines have consistently surprised me in field environments. I'm not being woke, I have seen my fair share of females that struggle, but most of them work their asses off and I've seen plenty that outperform the guys. One marine I was in a training environment with picked up the biggest dude in our platoon and, while carrying both rifles and both in full combat load, firemen carried this dude long distance at a fast pace. She was the only one in the squad to rush to help him while a the other dudes were arguing about who was gonna grab him.
As a USMC Veteran.... this just makes me sad. My stomach is literally hurting after watching this. Whats worse, the same females pushed through boot camp and given a pass based on their gender.. will continue to reap the same benefits on active duty. During my stay at P.I. , my time on mess duty seemed harder than anything in this video. Our enemies are watching and they are laughing.
It’s gotten worse, sir. And it will continue to get worse. When you have the government turning every facet of America into a “woke” spectacle, we all lose.
I was army basic at sand hill, was significantly harder than this. I had always respected marines as their basic was intense back then, but this is a joke looks like the chairforce or something. Honestly I'm so glad I got out 2010, cause there is no way I could handle whats going on now in the military.
I've come across Jordan peterson way of saying things and I do agree with these terms: Possibility of competence and possibility of outcome.
I belive what they are striving for is the possibilty of outcome which is just outrageous. 50/50 equality doesn't make things necesseraly better. The possibility of competence rewards you but what you are capable of and that is exactly the way it should be. So only women and men who are able to pass the test correctly should be rewarded with being marines in that case, but not make them pass just based on their gender. Horrendous.
@@altorins I feel you there. I am the first to say that I am not even capable of what they do here in that video, but I do believe it should be harder from what I have heard and seen so far. there are people made to be soldiers as others are made to be artists or plumbers. They should set the standards higher than this, not lower. Otherwise everybody could be an elite soldier and as a fact not everybody, or will be.
@@Leprutz very true the point of basic is to weed out people who aren't capable. It gives a person structure as well as demonstrating meaning that the group is more important than the individual.
If you want the best and you want them to have a chance of survival and coming home, the requirements all come down to MERIT, not a diversification of troops.
I was blessed that I can see awesome in the dark and stay up for weeks at a time without any sleep.
Night ops are my strong point because I don't need so much gear to compensate with low light conditions.
"No punches above the neck"
Good! just like real life combat.
The head area has been banned for many years as a striking target and everyone universally agrees and doesnt hit in the face. Off limits.
Love the sarcasm
Well, in real combat you don't have to use punches. You can pick up something and throw it, or use knife attached to rifle, or even use something really heavy to smash your opponent.
@@Luis-vy9bm no they don't.
Those are the rules "No touching of the hair or face." Oh wait ! Those are the Ron Burgundy rules, never mind.
Ron Burgundy in the houseeee
Politics need out of the Marine corps, guess we’ll learn when the next war comes.
It makes no sense to discriminate based off of gender when we’re looking for the best ppl possible
@@1337b3nnyvav00m yeah but don’t lower standards if men do 10 pull ups then the women should also do 10 pull ups, if men do 20 push ups then the women should do 20 push ups no on knees push ups, they won’t do that though cause 80% of women wouldn’t pass
@@SugarRayValentine army’s actually adopting the ACFT which had a uniform standard between genders. Women generally score lower but it’s a good test and a good measure of overall athleticism.
@@1337b3nnyvav00m the problem is military just isn’t that popular anymore so they’ve had to lower standards just to hit recruitment numbers they are going for quantity over quality
@R K considering I’ve seen a woman complete a 6 mile ruck under 50 pounds in under an hour I’d disagree
That obstacle Should realistically take all of 2 seconds and she can't even get on the damn thing!
Cpt Obvious ha ha I use that one all the time. Loving the videos. Watching from Maine.
Man, this is just straight up embarassing. I don't see any of these marines hardly using much effort or showing much enthusiasm. Like James said, It's like I'm watching them move in slow motion..
i think the guy being interviewed is good
It's because they don't want to fight, they just want an education but that's a luxury in America.
Seriously who gives a fuck about the women being there the entire thing is embarrassing. The only 2 things that i saw was the one marine being interviewed just talking about embracing the suck, And the DI that was yelling at the dip shit that froze up when he was told his buddy was bleeding out.
From the way Jamison talks it's gotten soft compared to what it used to be.
Well Gents, here's hoping our country is still here as time passes, with this lunatic administration in office and China seemingly ready to pounce at any moment, the last thing we need is to let these Feminazis systematically weaken our fighting force. I smell socialism on the horizon and it won't be long as they are pushing the rhetoric on us through all forms of media as we speak, they can weaken our Armed Forces but they can't weaken ammo stockpile gun toting Patriots, come and try, we'll be waiting!!!
Man, this equality thing Isn't for every Lane. This just proved it.
@Hugh Jones ..umm what??
@@chilldragon4752 they are pointing out, that one of the largest armies in the world, doesn't give a crap about integrating men and women.
They are just taking the guys.
I would imagine, majority of USA embargoed countries, would also take a similar approach.
@Hugh Jones 😂
@@patogames5099 great point
ANYTHING pushing "equality" is communist in nature..
In all my training time in the military I was never asked if I was comfortable, not once