Public Domain Needs to Move Beyond Slasher Horror | a rant

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  • Опубликовано: 4 дек 2024

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  • @angilobascomi8617
    @angilobascomi8617 6 дней назад +25

    Popeye fighting monsters in an action horror would be an awesome movie, sadly people are creatively bankrupt

  • @vyperleo
    @vyperleo 6 дней назад +22

    That idea of Popeye fighting Cthulu monsters sounds AWESOME.

    • @vidwatcher30s
      @vidwatcher30s 6 дней назад +3

      I'm picturing the Cthulu cult trying to sabotage spinach farming.

    • @vidwatcher30s
      @vidwatcher30s 6 дней назад +3

      I'm also picturing Wimpy trying to mooch off of the food vendors in Innsmouth.

  • @boshwa20
    @boshwa20 6 дней назад +17

    Public: "Companies are devoid of originality!"
    Public when stories enter public domain:

    • @latviandragon2718
      @latviandragon2718 6 дней назад

      these movies are psyops made by the companies to fool the people that public domain equals bad

  • @randomnerdery6511
    @randomnerdery6511 6 дней назад +9

    Omni, you're expecting WAAAAYYY too much from people who have a distinct lack of ambition.

  • @reptilitronousprime9213
    @reptilitronousprime9213 6 дней назад +22

    I can totally picture Winnie the Pooh thriving in a medieval fantasy setting. Hell, he already lives in a primitive world with basic 19th century technology and most of his friends are talking creatures that can be easily fit in any fairy tale. So they might as well go back further and embrace it. And his red shirt counterpart is in the Disney family. They're infamous for their stories that take place predominantly in medieval fantasy settings, albeit a sanitized version of it.

    • @omniviewer2115
      @omniviewer2115  6 дней назад +13

      I've actually seen a project in the works along those lines called Winnie the Pooh, Demon Hunter. Just at a glance, it looks interesting.

    • @Godzillakingofkaiju1
      @Godzillakingofkaiju1 6 дней назад +2

      We kinda got that with those Warrior Pooh comics.

  • @gumundureyorarnfinnsson4212
    @gumundureyorarnfinnsson4212 6 дней назад +12

    Who here agrees that a steam punk popeye is a cool idea

  • @kasaibouF29
    @kasaibouF29 6 дней назад +16

    I'm glad Wizard of Oz entered the public domain 70 years before this trend started.

    • @randomnerdery6511
      @randomnerdery6511 6 дней назад +7

      Return to Oz is the perfect example of how to do a creepy, horror inspired take on a beloved children's franchise.

    • @MonsterKidCory
      @MonsterKidCory 6 дней назад +3

      Nobody tell this guy about Todd McFarlane's Twisted Land of Oz.

    • @kasaibouF29
      @kasaibouF29 6 дней назад +2

      @@randomnerdery6511 unironically yes!

    • @kasaibouF29
      @kasaibouF29 6 дней назад

      @@MonsterKidCory or James Rolfe's Dorothy Goes to Hell 🤢

    • @keelanbarron928
      @keelanbarron928 6 дней назад

      ​@@kasaibouF29....the angry video game nerd?

  • @TokuCMO
    @TokuCMO 6 дней назад +9

    Honestly when I first heard a popeye horror movie I was excited because of the possibilities. Popeye in the cthulhu mythos would of been amazing but no...he's a slasher. That was stupid. I understand Grinch and Pooh but Popeye. WTF

  • @NathanMarchandAuthor
    @NathanMarchandAuthor 6 дней назад +16

    I’d say I’m worried about a bad Superman horror movie, but that already exists.
    Superman III.

    • @mikerude5073
      @mikerude5073 6 дней назад +6

      Superman Returns was worse. There he was a stalker. It was like that movie was directed by some creep.

    • @TenDropChris
      @TenDropChris 6 дней назад +7

      Give how many "evil superman" characters there are currently, (Omni man, Homelander, Injustice Superman) I'm hoping that when Super enters the public domain people will already be tired of the trope.

    • @DenisFilippenkov
      @DenisFilippenkov 6 дней назад

      ​@@mikerude5073 about that...

    • @Guyverman01
      @Guyverman01 6 дней назад +1

      @@TenDropChris At this rate, it WILL be hopefully.

    • @BRAINFOXINFINITE
      @BRAINFOXINFINITE 5 дней назад

      @@TenDropChris I look forward to the "Man of Steel sucks! Superman doesn't kill!" guys banding together and making a slasher movie where Supes goes around slitting throats (not neck snapping) the second he goes into the public domain.

  • @ronniepatterson2827
    @ronniepatterson2827 6 дней назад +7

    Excellent idea on having Popeye go up against Cuthulu Sir. In fact, I can picture that idea following in Godzilla's footsteps & becoming a VS series of films. Popeye vs Moby Dick, Popeye vs the Meg, Popeye vs Starkist tuna, Popeye vs Greenpeace, Flipper, Free Willy, Hedorah, hell the sky's the limit im saying.

  • @rickyrackey7930
    @rickyrackey7930 6 дней назад +26

    Popeye should have gotten an open world hack n slash adventure game where you travel the seven seas battling antagonistic sailors while collecting spinach but instead we got another cheap horror movie.

    • @omniviewer2115
      @omniviewer2115  6 дней назад +11

      somebody can still develop one.

    • @mikekomarinski
      @mikekomarinski 6 дней назад +6

      @rickyrackey7930 That's not a bad idea, actually.

    • @kaijubeyondbelief8053
      @kaijubeyondbelief8053 6 дней назад +6

      @@omniviewer2115or maybe Popeye can visit Atlantis

    • @nerdicwarrior
      @nerdicwarrior 6 дней назад +5

      Yeah, like a Dynasty Warriors type game. That would be cool.

    • @davidfrancisco3502
      @davidfrancisco3502 6 дней назад +3

      And make it very jolly and lighthearted comedic moments like in the original cartoon.

  • @baldyman4450
    @baldyman4450 6 дней назад +3

    Omniverse plus public domain characters?!? Now you’re talking! I hope we don’t have to wait too long for this one. Oh, the possibilities.

  • @ShinKaijuPrince
    @ShinKaijuPrince 6 дней назад +11

    It's probably because making something into a slasher movie is cheaper than doing something more creative.

    • @omniviewer2115
      @omniviewer2115  6 дней назад +8

      Yeah, pretty much, but as I say in the video, even slasher movies can be more creative than what we see on display thus far.

  • @thechonkbrothers2267
    @thechonkbrothers2267 6 дней назад +7

    I do agree that the whole “making a cartoon character a slasher villain as soon as they get into the public domain thing” is getting kinda old, and we definitely need other ideas, but I feel like if you are gonna do that, at least bring a fraction of their cartoony power into their kills. Have them bend and contorting their bodies, or materialize whatever out of thin air, all while loudly hooting and cackling like a maniac. Something like the villain reveal in Who Framed Roger Rabbit, or the original concept for Cool World.

    •  4 дня назад

      I think that using the PD to revive the OG concept of Cool World could work, or even the pitch for Roger Rabbit II (though replacing Roger with an OC since Roger was copyrighted in 1981)

  • @chughes6034
    @chughes6034 6 дней назад +7

    With Popeye entering the Public Domain, a thought came into my head... Popeye as a guest character for Street Fighter and/or King of Fighters. Popeye just feels like a character that could be right at home in a fighting game.
    Then again, these games are primarily made by Japanese companies and I have no idea where Japan stands regarding Public Domain. I guess someone could make their own Popeye fighting game.
    Still better than yet another slasher movie.

    • @gundradestroyer4480
      @gundradestroyer4480 6 дней назад +4

      Well, there was a Japanese artist who said he would like to make a movie about Mikey and Felix the Cat, but the poor guy didn't seem to understand that since it was public domain, he could do it without any problem, since he thought that only horror stuff was allowed, and people in the comments had to explain it to him,
      So these slayers productions alter people's perception of the public domain topic.

    • @Guyverman01
      @Guyverman01 6 дней назад

      Popeye should be added to the next Smash.

  • @talmiz101
    @talmiz101 6 дней назад +3

    I think that people just want to go for the cheapest choice that they can make simple as that.

  • @epic-ace-studios8519
    @epic-ace-studios8519 6 дней назад +6

    Valid rant it be cool to have horror other than slasher. A mickey ghost horror movie or psychological be cool thats. Just an example but, yes they have no real creativity very lazy

  • @TheGhostgodzilla
    @TheGhostgodzilla 6 дней назад +2

    For what is worth, tgere is one project that I am honestly looking forward to: Popeye and Steamboat Mickey are partbers and sail the seas together looking for adventure.

  • @hagfish4998
    @hagfish4998 6 дней назад +4

    I want a Popeye game inspired by Pizza Tower/Antonblast/Wario Land

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 6 дней назад +1

    "Lol dur hurr classic thing is horror now!" Is a universal truth of the internet/reality. It's like rule 34 for horror: If it exists, someone will make horror out of it.
    Heck, the fanfics don't even wait until public domain, they just do it anyway.

    • @Guyverman01
      @Guyverman01 6 дней назад

      Correction : It's become the new rule 34.

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 6 дней назад

      @@Guyverman01 Ehhh... I wouldn't say that, because we already have instant thirsting for basically ALL new characters ever.
      Maybe it's just Horror Rule 34: If it exists, someone will make horror out of it.

  • @mikekomarinski
    @mikekomarinski 6 дней назад +5

    He is with Popeye the Sailor meets Sinbad the Sailor.

    • @omniviewer2115
      @omniviewer2115  6 дней назад +6

      The public domain meta intensifies!

    • @Mammothsaber-4457
      @Mammothsaber-4457 6 дней назад +1

      Popeye was going to be featured as sinbad in a movie before Snow White came out

    • @vidwatcher30s
      @vidwatcher30s 6 дней назад +1

      There's already a Popeye cartoon from 1936 called Popeye the Sailor Meets Sindbad the Sailor, and it's great!

    • @mikekomarinski
      @mikekomarinski 6 дней назад +1

      @@vidwatcher30s 100% agreed.😁

  • @miguelversestudios4309
    @miguelversestudios4309 6 дней назад +4

    Is horror is the only thing they think how about Romance, Sci Fi, Adventure, Action or more

  • @heroicgangster9981
    @heroicgangster9981 6 дней назад +3

    i'm irritated because mascot horror doesn't even have to involve serial killers, FNAF made the fun mascot character trend interesting by having the games both involve a serial killer (turned mascot) AND the mascot characters having more purposes in their state than just killing.

  • @cicadahuman
    @cicadahuman 6 дней назад

    "Where is the creativity?" I feel this way with the MV.

  • @enzeru5491
    @enzeru5491 6 дней назад +2

    Also, I'm not sure if this is going to happen or not, but will Godzilla ever enter the public domain? I feel like the answer is no, but I'm not sure. If it is possible, and he does enter the public domain...well, let's just say a certain someone has some interesting ideas about where to take the character storywise😏😏😏🤫😊.

  • @SteamingMickey28
    @SteamingMickey28 6 дней назад +2

    Well to be fair at least for the popeye the slayer man they had some creativity like he kill peoples with his toon force powers like stumping their head like I agree (for Popeye at least) some cartoon public domain characters have more potential than just being a horror villain like the chance of these recent year of public domain characters made into a movie that the characters being portrayed as good guy is highly unlikely (maybe some day) but this will likely to be on Fanmade RUclips videos or something

  • @heroicgangster9981
    @heroicgangster9981 6 дней назад +3

    public domain immediately churning out horror movies could probably be a valid reason why horror movies deserve low ratings (I'M EXAGGERATING but still XD)

  • @jackhamilton9604
    @jackhamilton9604 6 дней назад +1

    SPOILERS FOR OPERATION RED DRAGON
    At the end Barracudasaurus is dragged away by a monster with tentacles who is set up to be a major villain going forward. Is that going to be Cthulhu?

    • @vidwatcher30s
      @vidwatcher30s 6 дней назад

      I've read that book, too. I think it's a distinct possibility.

  • @kaijubeyondbelief8053
    @kaijubeyondbelief8053 6 дней назад +4

    Hey Omni! From what I heard from the filmmakers they said that they’re creating a cinematic universe with these cartoon characters as serial killers. They in speculation also expressed interest in making films about Thor, as well as copyrighted franchises such as Teletubbies, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and The Powerpuff Girls.
    What do you think of this?

  • @DevilRaptorB
    @DevilRaptorB 6 дней назад +1

    as an author myself, I have no interest in using any of these characters, even if they came into public domain

  • @tremolandi3918
    @tremolandi3918 5 дней назад

    Imagine a Godzilla horror movie when Godzilla becomes public domain

  • @enzeru5491
    @enzeru5491 6 дней назад +2

    🙌🤝👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🤝🙌👍!!!!!!! Your Popeye idea is absolutely innovative and is oozing with creativity, I would love to read a story, or watch a movie concerning your idea for Popeye, thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Patrick19833
    @Patrick19833 5 дней назад

    There will be a Betty Boop horror film in 2026. Betty Boop entering public domain in 2026.

  • @readingking1421
    @readingking1421 6 дней назад

    Steamboat Willie as a pulp action hero is something I didn't know I needed.
    I really wish I could draw/code/had better ideas.

  • @StickfigAllo
    @StickfigAllo 5 дней назад

    Popeye in the Monsterverse would go HARD

  • @זינאלדיןיאסין
    @זינאלדיןיאסין 6 дней назад +2

    Im in your tall omni viewer popeye meets h.p lovecraft take my money i will love to see that crossover .
    and you right about how the studio making this stupid cartoon horror movie they ruined your favorite childhood cartoon

  • @thanatos-zero-x
    @thanatos-zero-x 6 дней назад

    Good video, Omni. I was planning to write my own take of Frankenstein's monster, and while I don't know exactly how I would do it, but I have some rough ideas about how it could go.

  • @LinguarumFautor
    @LinguarumFautor 6 дней назад

    Popeye in "When's a Closet not a Closet? When it's Ajar!"

  • @andagi1920
    @andagi1920 6 дней назад +1

    Popeye the Slayer Man made me think of Popeye in drag… the reality was disappointing to say the least

  • @SaurianStudios1207
    @SaurianStudios1207 6 дней назад

    You make a lot of great points about how classic slasher movies (Halloween, Scream, A nightmare on elm Street, The Texas chainsaw massacre, etc.) felt distinct and unique from each other, while these public domain horror movies based on IPs (Popeye, Steamboat Willie, Winnie the Pooh, etc.) is more trendy than creative, which just sucks out the creative potential in horror (horror is more than just slasher or blood and guts). The popeye meets Cthulu crossover idea sounds interesting.

  • @ALEXANDER-u7z
    @ALEXANDER-u7z 6 дней назад +1

    totally down for popeye vs cthulhu movie need to work on fan casting for actors/ voice actors depending on witch way you want to play it. then again still holding out for a wacky races movie and have been for years.

  • @godzillabebravethetrexretu1381
    @godzillabebravethetrexretu1381 6 дней назад

    We should get a Winnie the Pooh movie based on the wizard of oz where Christopher robin gets transported to a magical world and adventures with Winnie the Pooh and his friends to get Christopher robin back to the real world and a steamboat Willie movie about Mickey finding ancient treasure and Popeye fighting sea monsters would be awesome too

  • @MonsterKidCory
    @MonsterKidCory 6 дней назад

    Omni's League of Extraordinary Cartoons confirmed!... I was complaining about this exact thing years ago, as a fan of Victorian sci-fi and literature, when American McGee's Alice and Todd McFarlane's Twisted Land of Oz came out. Gore and porn appeal EXACTLY to the kind of puerile mind who wants to pervert the innocent things of childhood just because they are the innocent things of childhood. The only thing worse is what the copyright holders themselves are doing: which would you prefer, Mr. Toad as a Ripperesque slasher horror or Disney's own remake of Lady Toad as a sassy Black woman?

  • @Guyverman01
    @Guyverman01 6 дней назад

    Bugs Bunny goes public domian in 2036, not 2035.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 6 дней назад

    I see more potential in a film where Christopher Robin and pals try to make a horror movie.
    Hell, I think Disney should just rerelease Runaway Brain as a giant middle finger to the hacks using Mickey Mouse for shitty horror stuff.

  • @williamreed3739
    @williamreed3739 6 дней назад

    When I was in sixth grade there was a kid who always made fun of me for liking cartoons and told me to “get a life and watch some R rated movies”
    Movies like this make me think he grew up and got a job in the film industry

  • @spiderlime
    @spiderlime 4 дня назад

    the problem is apparently the belief that you have to jump genres or to subvert the canon once an intellectual property enters the public domain. there is nothing wrong with writing stories according to establshed lore.

  • @toonrex2806
    @toonrex2806 6 дней назад

    Instead of a slasher flick, I would make a Popeye movie that was an action movie like John Wick, a martial arts movie like Enter the Dragon but with Popeye, or an Indiana Jones-style adventure film. And if you want to go the horror route, do what Evil Dead did and have Popeye be the hero like Ash. It's been awhile since we had an iconic horror movie hero.

  • @vidwatcher30s
    @vidwatcher30s 6 дней назад

    Or, someone could...you know...just make a good Popeye movie. One in which he and his friends go on an adventure, has Bluto try to steal Olive from him, and has him eat spinach and defeat all of the bad guys in the end. Because we haven't had an actual Popeye movie in the modern era. Genndy Tartakovsky was set to direct one for Sony a few years ago. It was a dream project for him and I don't doubt it would have been an absolute riot had it been made, but I'm also not surprised in the least that Sony got cold feet and cancelled it. Popeye, when you get down to it, is too violent and politically incorrect a cartoon character for mainstream studios nowadays. Now that he's public domain, though, someone can go ahead and make the over-the-top action comedy that he belongs in.
    If you've never seen it, look up Genndy Tartakovsky's Popeye animation test. It will both brighten your day AND make you sad that the movie was never made.

  • @davidfaust90125
    @davidfaust90125 3 дня назад

    Steamboat Willie as an anti-colonial radical who leads colonizers to their doom.

  • @Mammothsaber-4457
    @Mammothsaber-4457 6 дней назад

    I think the trend can be traced back to two sources, Bendy and the ink machine and blood and Honey. Bendy and the ink machine worked because it was an original I.p that poked fun at old cartoons while still clearly respecting them, while blood and honey got by on shock value that’s rapidly worn off.

  •  4 дня назад

    TBH, Popeye actually would work in horror. But the execution they're doing is pathetic.
    But Winnie and Mickey don't fit in a horror setting, despite the fact both have scary moments (Heffalumps and Woozles for the former, and The Mad Doctor for the latter)

  • @TylerRakstis
    @TylerRakstis 6 дней назад

    At least thankfully, you didn't refference your distaste on the Disney remakes. I still haven't gotten over what you said a while ago. Since I'm the kind of person who doesn't forgive and forget too easily.

  • @cammzilla1534
    @cammzilla1534 5 дней назад

    Please do review of the sequel of Godzilla vs the mighty morphing power rangers volume 2.

  • @latviandragon2718
    @latviandragon2718 6 дней назад +1

    why not make it a r rated action film, why horror

  • @PlotSpot95
    @PlotSpot95 5 дней назад

    I am so tired of this trend. Like you said, at least put some blasted effort into the thing, make it more of an intellectual horror if you want to do horror.
    I think the other thing that bothers me is the character assassination. Turning Popeye into a villain and all that. If you want to take the IP in a more nature direction, fine. But why fundamentally change what the character is?

  • @LtJackStone
    @LtJackStone 6 дней назад

    It feels lazy. Like people don't have enough creativity to make anything else.

  • @thedarkmasterthedarkmaster
    @thedarkmasterthedarkmaster 6 дней назад +1

    Razorfist was right when he said the public domain is an ass.
    People like to pretend it's inherently a good thing but really in most cases it's a one way ticket to mediocrity and being forgotten

  • @saveriovinci1212
    @saveriovinci1212 6 дней назад +3

    I wont rest until Garfield enters the public domain and we get a slasher version of that character as well finally lol. 😾🔪😁👍🩸🔫
    (5:04) Easy, Popeye would defeat Cthulhu and the other lovecraftian monsters by just eating some spinach and beat the snot out of them lol. ⛵⚓💪🥬

    • @vidwatcher30s
      @vidwatcher30s 6 дней назад

      But what if the Cthulhu cult sabotages spinach production and distribution?