Never in my life have I heard such a profound, intelligent, and relatable conversation on creation and the afterlife. Incredible that this came from Steve-o's podcast of all places. Thank you for opening my mind to new possibilities, and thank you for being so genuine. I love what you're doing here
Kevin was incredibly patient with all these guys. they're talking about completely unprovable and hopeful ideas, which Kevin described are very possible to simply be presuppositional, which means that you're going to look for a familiar hopeful idea. that of which there happen to be plenty of mythological hopeful ideas among every culture, because of course the uncertainty of what happens after death is spooky. does the fear in the unknowable validate committing to a complete guess based on our unimaginably limited human perspectives? if someone saw a meat grinder and didn't yet learn what meat grinders were, would they be valid in committing fully to touching the meat grinder? or would they perhaps use a tool to experimentally test what happens when something touches the meat grinder? unfortunately, testing for a God or souls has so far proven to be completely futile. i'm not saying that excludes the possibility, but i'm saying that maybe you shouldn't touch the meat grinder with your hand. hell, the one guy said he thought he was vietnamese in the past life. explain to me this. if we are "all one" then why in the world do people have specific past identities as opposed to the whole unified experience of everyone? do you know why? because the narrative of unification is far less interesting and dramatic for people to be entertained by than these singular godlike figures who we fabricate to be a representation of ourselves, and ignorantly not a different animal -- though some other religions like those in India actually do have animals for Gods.
You can spend your entire life studying scripture and still not connect with the spiritual and mystical nature of the messages conveyed, whereas here we have two people who have experienced life at the most extreme ends, the highest highs, and the lowest lows. These men probably abandoned the idea of God or a spiritual force holding the universe together long ago. And between the time of abandonment and now they have come to many different conclusions on life, and what I find fascinating is that most people who have experienced a lot of life always come to a similar conclusion. More complex and comprehensible than most religious scholars and leaders, because it’s not just copy and paste indoctrination that they regurgitate, it’s a true life experience and years of rumination coming to an apex of consciousness.
I have panic attacks when i think about death. The idea of life just... ending... and then non-existence... it really freaks me out. Kevins outlook and the peace he felt when he thought it was the end really brought me a lot of comfort about it. I hope when my time comes, I get to experience the same calm acceptance.
Do you flip out about how you never existed for billions of years before you were born? Why should death be interpreted any differently? Dying sucks; that’s the experience which is to be feared and appreciated but death? That’s just a state of nonexistence, just like before we were alive
I’ve heard Kevin give his perspective on death following the heart attack several times, and it’s really profound and beautiful. His words ring true regardless of what you believe happens after we die, however I think they are especially powerful if you don’t believe in life after death. He lays out with humility how death is not something to be feared. And I find that to be very inspirational. This is the first time I’ve heard him say that she leans towards that we are basically just computers and eventually we just end. But I really related to what Steve-O had to say , as well.
@@bigguy7353 it takes infinitely more faith to believe that there is a soul at all, as opposed the the obvious materials that we are. have you ever considered that before?
Best podcast soo far , really enjoyed everyone’s point of view for the afterlife 👍… nice calm Exchange of points and views, no right or wrong or passed judge … no argument or debate. Great points from different Resouces.
I'm fucking terrified that there's no afterlife man. My life here has been pretty rough so far and the thought that my kids are destined for nothing has given me some pretty bad insomnia for months
@@norman4877 the fact that we perceive time as constantly unfolding instead of just fast-forwarding to the end means there’s a conscious state waiting for us in which we can recall memory. That state would be the afterlife. If we just cut to black and there was nothing, we would already be there and thinking of nothing, just like in a blackout. We are moving around and doing stuff but we don’t remember it so we essentially time travel to the next point in which we can recall memory. So because we remember everything as it happens, means there’s some form of awareness for the rest of existence that will allow us to look back on our life and recall. Your relative time perception within consciousness is a constant proof that your kids have a forever after. It’s up to you and them to make sure it’s a happy one 😊 Pray to something and eventually He will reveal himself to you
@@WesleyB-Rook give me some sauce on this perspective. It's interesting but I'm needing more explanation Not meaning to sound dismissive or anything. I'm extremely interested in any takes that can help rid me of my fucking depression that is a direct result of my nihilism
This is one of if not THE best conversations and guests Steve O has had on the pod cast. I had an almost identical experience as Kevin did about six months ago. My wife and kids were asleep and I started feeling really fucked up. I had been feeling sick for a week like I had the flu and was not able to take full deep breaths. As I laid there on my couch feeling very strange I broke out into a profuse sweat, but I figured it was the bug I thought I had. I decided to jump into the shower to cool off and because I was really sweating. I remember realizing in the shower that something was seriously wrong and that was going to lose consciousness. I remember thinking "please God let me stay conscious long enough to take a shit and put on my underwear. I was able to keep myself up and awake long enough to take a shit and wipe myself good with baby wipes because I figured I might have to go to the hospital. My mistake during this time was not yelling for my wife Jennifer to help me or call an ambulance. I finished my shit and washed my hands, and went to sit on the couch to put my underwear and shorts on. The last thing I remember was finally calling out to my wife "Jennifer something's wrong!' and then waking up on the hallway floor looking up at my wife who was crying on the phone to the 911 operator. I realized what was happening and remembered what had happened previously. I said to myself "Dude, get the fuck up off the floor your wife is terrified!" and tried to get up off of the floor, but literally could only roll onto my back and kind of lean my head against the wall. I kept looking into my wife's terrified eyes as to let her know I'm still here, even though I could feel my body slipping away. I was SO tired I wanted to shut my eyes but I had to keep them open and look my wife in the eyes to try and ease her fear. I said "I'm here honey!' and kept trying to inch my back up the wall. So weak and tired it was like my life force was leaking out onto the floor. The EMT's got to my house pretty quickly and mind you my two children are sound asleep (thank God) while three EMT's are putting heart leads on my chest and getting an EKG going. I'm sweating so profusely that the leads are slipping off and they tell me and my wife I'm in serious cardiac arrest. I mustered up one last bit of strength to grab an EMT's hand and help them help me to my feet. I took one step to the gurney and they strapped in right in my hallway by my front door. As were going towards the front door I lost consciousness again and I went somewhere. I don't quite know what this experience was but it was like plunging into a digital realm that was surrounded by vibrant red and gold almost like palace tapestry, but pixelated like a 90's video game. It was beautiful and I felt calm. This experience seemed to last a while, then all of a sudden in the blink of an eye my head lifted and I looked at the EMT's and my wife and said "Whoa! I just just had a dream!" and we weren't even out of my front door yet. I felt the cold night air on my bare chest as they rolled me down my front walkway and I felt like I was going to barf. I kept telling them I'm going to puke. They got me into the ambulance and the gravity started to hit me. We pulled away from my house and two EMT's (one on each side) have my wrists and they're trying to get a pulse. They look at each other with concern and each one agrees they can't feel a pulse. I said to them "That isn't good guys, is it?!?!" and they looked at me reassuringly and said "We're gonna get you there!" As I lay there feeling the urgency of the driver and the speed with which he was pushing that rig I remember being so tired. Like a tired I'd never felt before. A tired that had me afraid to close my eyes even though my body was telling me to close them. I looked up at the ceiling of this ambulance and it hit me, THIS MIGHT BE IT! This ceiling and these EMT's may be the last thing I see. I started getting a bit sad even though I wasn't in despair or sobbing or saying I don't want to die. I was just sad at the thought that I wouldn't see my wife or kids again. I said "God if you want to take me do it, but please if there's more to do let me stay!" and right after that we pulled into Vallejo Kaiser where I was taken because I desperately needed an aortic pump installed. I was in a room with twelve people buzzing around me administering COVID-19 tests, reapplying heart leads slipping off from profuse sweat, and doctors feeling my feet and wrists as they asked me questions to keep me alert. I was whisked away to an operating room, shaved, and a doctor snaked a camera and pump through my femoral artery near my groin and into my heart. He looked at me and the other staff and said "His arteries are clean!" and then withdrew the camera and left the pump in my aorta. A machine at the foot of the table controlled the strokes of this pump in my heart and it felt like mechanically induced hiccups, but it was a balloon expanding and contracting with each faint beat of my heart. I immediately started to feel better though still not out of dire straights as far as anybody knew. The doctor explained to me that I had suffered an acute myocarditis due to the virus I had and that my heart walls had become thin. I was taken back to intensive care and only after it seemed I wasn't going to die that a nurse kind of explained the gravity of what I had just endured. Only then did I start to cry when I thought about the people who had just saved my life. My wife heard me hit the floor and woke up to call the ambulance. Saved my life. The EMT's got there quickly and diagnosed me quickly and made the decision to take me to the right hospital. Saved my life. The doctors and nurses at Vallejo Kaiser figured out what I needed and the doctor placed the pump in my heart in the nick of time. Saved my life. I had tears of reflection and of utter gratitude running down my face as I realized God's answer to my request was that there's more to do. Need not forget that. Long story short I spent the next six days at California Pacific hospital in San Francisco at a World Class cardiac ICU and was taken off of the heart pump on day six. I walked out of the hospital almost as if nothing happened, even though my heart wasn't at full capacity. My two boys who I hadn't seen in almost nine days were maybe the best thing I'd ever seen and boy was I seeing through new eyes. I need to remember this experience and how lucky I am and how each day I open my eyes is a gift with a purpose. I need to live with purpose. Having recently lost my beloved sister I am aware of how precious and fragile this experience I get to have really is. Almost six months has passed since this close to death experience and I had started to forget it even happened. I have an MRI next week to check on my heart and I can only hope it's good news. I've made some healthy changes and am living with purpose. Not perfect but progress. I'm not done here and wish all of the best for you my family and friends!
Had the exact same heart attack at around the same time Kevin did, I had two 90% blockages and what he was talking about was very similar to my own experience too, I remember hearing about his one when I was in hospital, I wasn’t overweight and was fairly fit but I was two years younger than him and it felt like a movie and I was watching it on tv, like him I realised this could be it and as I was thinking that I heard the doctors having a regular chat about cars and it kind of brought me back, I’ve since had a new lease of life, joined a gym and feel a lot better than I did before I had the attack, if anyone else reading or watching this has swollen ankles, don’t ignore it like I did, it’s a sign that your body is not working right, go get it checked, mind yourself 🙏
fuck. i don't know if i'd say swollen ankles, but after eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's (once or twice a week), or indulging in a chocolate chip cookie, i'll sometimes feel something in my left ankle. Sometimes my leg will even go numb for about 30 seconds before the numbness fades away. Nothing looks or feels particularly swollen though I definitely gotta start working out again too. Lost a ton of motivation since i started working regularly a few years ago. I'm currently 25. Reading that just triggered my health anxiety a bit ngl. I gotta schedule for my annual physical soon anyway, since i'm due for one this year
@@mikeyt2404 I had no signs I had gone on a 5 mile cycle actually and my sock felt tight when I got home i noticed my ankle was huge, I spoke to my mother and she said it was just water retention as she suffers from it, later that night I got strange chest pains that felt like a cramp, at about 3 am I was still in pain so I decided to go to the hospital, I sat down waiting in the reception for 3 hours not realising I was having heart attacks, eventually they seen me and I was rushed in to get the stents immediately, the doctor said if I had gone to bed I would not be here today, no warning it happened just like that, only symptoms were swollen ankles and tightness across the chest that felt like muscle cramps, but the doctor said the ankles were a sign of bad blood flow so I just wanted to share my experience
I am an ER Nurse Medical/Acute, Kevin got lucky, he didn't have a massive heart attack but he could have if he had waited another hour or more. A massive heart attack would have left him in months of recovery and a fair percentage of destroyed heart tissue leaving him with a greatly diminished function for the rest of his life. I love how he changed his lifestyle after, sadly I have seen many many people never change a thing after recovery.
I know what he means, I was in a plane accident and I didn’t want it to be happening, but I just looked at my family and smiled . It was a weird peace and appreciation that floods you. It was eerie how everyone on the plane went deathly quiet.
@@Dev-In-Denver123 Thankfully we landed mostly safely in a field in Newark of all places. We were flying back to visit family in Europe as we do each year. The crap part was it wasn’t too long after 9. 11. So the security stuff wasn’t figured out yet and it was sheer madness. Finally getting on the plane and we were halfway across the Atlantic. We were having awful turbulence but that sometimes happens if there’s a storm or something. I looked out the window and saw flames and the plane was dumping stuff. I asked my Ma what was coming out the plane and she just closed the window. A bit later the pilot came on to tell us we lost half our engines and we were turning back around to America for an emergency landing and he would try to make it to an airstrip but wasn’t sure. It was deadly silent and very very eerie. Finally we barely made it back to America and he found a field in Newark and we all just buckled . It was soo spooky but after we caught our breath there was a standing ovation. We had to wait for the fire people and then medics checking us one by one before departing. The crap part too was trying to find hotels for all of us and my Ma trying to get ahold of my Da on the west coast to let our family know in England because they were picking us up. We also helped a German group because theY were confused. I did try to figure out with my husbeast why he didn’t try to land in England rather going back to America. I think it may have had to do with airspace ? Perhaps having more breathing room in case something else happened? It was very scary though. We did get an official letter about a lawsuit and something about it being a 72 hour delay from our destination.
Going from a 30 minute deep and thought-provoking conversation on spirituality and the afterlife, straight into Steve-O promoting his new book "A Hard Kick in the Nuts" is easily a top 10 life experience for me. Still laughing my ass off. Thank you, Steve-O. 🤣
Kevin Smith is a Legend to me it goes deep I feel ya. Glad he's still with us. From childhood to today he's provided endless comedy and lots of reflective thinking. He's a great writer.
I did Ayahuasca and I 100 percent had a life review. No one else at the ceremony did. My trip started by going to the light. I was told if I wanted to, I could leave my body for good right then. It's hard to describe or condense the experience into words but I definitely think it depends on what the person is ready to know/experience. You won't experience something your not ready for.
holy shit man. good on you for holding it together, i had some experiences with lsd, about a dozen over 5 years and having done that i respect anyone to do any of the big boy psychedelics lol.
Fantastic conversation and I enjoyed the back and forth. Like Kevin said, if I ever thought I'd hear a deep conversation about the afterlife with Steve-O and KS, I'd be like, "huh?"
I had a heart attack last January at 42.. had two blockages of 98 percent.. If it wasn't for my wife I would have laid down and just died because it was exactly like Mr Smith said. My wife phoning 911 and the ambulance attendants saved my life. Never did see a light or anyone familiar to me. Just remember blinking back into awareness to don't die on me in the ambulance.. I've never been afraid of death because sadly rare medical conditions expedite near death experiences. From what I've seen he is kinda right your here today and gone tomorrow the wind down is abrupt..
I had a near death experience this year. I woke up, got ready for work and headed out. I drove my route and was about 30 feet from my job, I had one last street to cross. I pull out and next thing I knew I was spinning. This guy had been doing 106mph in a 45, he hit the brake for 1 sec according to the black box info. The impact was a t-bone at 103 mph. I had a dissected aorta, my spleen was destroyed, my lung collapsed, broke my hip is several spots, had to have emergency surgery to stop internal bleeding. Tbh the mental health has been the more difficult to overcome. I'm healing up now and just so ready for life and fearful at the same time. It really really changed my outlook and opinions on life. The story is crazier than that. Just too much for typing. Just wanted to chip in my story and experience.
Happy to hear you are recovering! Did you experience certain things would you explain if your up to it. Like explain if you had seen a light or what not. Like a life review or your own unique experiences.
Kevin Smith is awesome. I’ve loved all the entertainment he’s created over the years! It’s too bad there are people that want to complain, rather than go watch what they enjoy. I’m super excited for MooseJaws!
For myself I had that once, the feeling just before death, and yes, every responsibility melts away... You know what was the weirdest one: Breathing, as if its not some automatic thing we do in our minds, but some automatic thing we do because of some absolutely monumental deep instinctual stress motivating it.
My exact words to the nurse when she said "your having a heart attack" was "you need to check your equipment because I KNOW what a heart attack looks like, (clutching my chest while holding other arm straight out) THIS IS THE BIG ONE, HERE I COME" The silver lining of my attack is that I can tell my story to all my friends around my age and maybe one day they will recognize the very mild symptoms and go to the doctor. Hell, I was 39 years old, not obese, active and hasn't smoked in more than 10 years...doc said I won the genetic lottery so it can happen to anyone. Tell as many people as you can what you felt and to not give the EMS static because you don't want a nurse to see your man boobs and sac!
The crazy part of NDE and life review is when people experience scary things. The experiences people describe that are dark, gritty, scary and horrifying and the opposite of "heavenly" and warm and "happy go to the light". Those fascinated me
I had a heart attack at 44. Had to get a quadruple bypass. I died twice during the surgery. I had a NDE. For my experience there is definitely life after death. It was the most peaceful thing. There are no words. Yes you feel light and realize you have zero worries. I literally thought to myself, "oh, this is it?" I knew I was dead and I couldn't have been less concerned. At first it was pitch black. Then all of a sudden I was in a place of light. I was greeted by two women. There were hundreds of people there tho. One of the women told me I wouldn't be staying. When I woke up the pain and fear came rushing back. Anyways. I believe your conscience goes on.
I had a experience very similar to Kevin when it comes to accepting death. It was in hs and there was an accident and I knew I was dying and it was just like an "oh ok... this is happening ... oh well.." but then I woke up... came out on the other side in the hospital bed and since then and even before a bit I was at peace with it. Still to this day. But I will say it changes you. Love this podcast episode... how can you not love Kevin Smith. He's so cool and sincere and wonderful
To my understanding and belief the thing about the pre determined events vs free will is the events happen so that you can choose how u deal with it. They teach you something. You have lessons to learn and lessons to teach.
After having a heart attack myself and being saved your story is exactly like mine, use the fact that your alive and have a second chance at life do something good to help others. ❤
Wow my Dad and Kevin Smith beat the statistics. Same exact way and everything, my dad actually drove himself to the ER with the family on the phone. This is a truly unique coincidence.
I had died approximately 5 minutes from a international od.. the light I experienced was myself. No physical form, just points of lights. Some brighter than others, making the shape of my body. Life flashed past me, everyone seemed familiar. Than just me suspended in darkness. I was than defibrillated back. Most painful thing I ever experienced. No pain, no worries had all came flooding back, every nerve ached. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.
"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another." The energy of life and consciousness is no different.
I believe in heaven because, I believe in consciousness, not religion but, spirituality yes. I love how you guys talk Soul contracts and Delores Cannon.
confession time. i had a NDE at the age of 18 due to my drug addiction. im 27 now. ive spent the last 9 years just hoping to go back to that place. idk if its heaven but there is something better after this. i happily await that. its ok to look forward to it i think, better even.
Honestly kevin smith is an inspiration to better myself not only physically but as a person on a whole. Super glad he took the wake up call and bettered his lifestyle so we could keep watching his movies and stand up. Love this guy even though ive never had the pleasure to meet him. Would love to just chill with him and talk about comics for a whole day lol
I think the reason people who do psychedelics don’t experience a “life-review” is simply because they’re not dying. Like Kevin said, your brain can’t relate to the trauma of dying because it’s never had to experience it before and anyone who has done psychedelics can tell you that your trip is usually pulling from whatever your current state of mind is. Of course people tripping on DMT aren’t going to report a similar experience to people at death's door. They’re not facing the reality of non-existence in that moment.
Kevin had waaaay too much patience for these guys. the one dude said he thought he was vietnamese in his past life with a hippy smile on his stupid face. these guys simply gravitate to entertaining ideas, which is an incredibly depressing presentation of human stupidity. why do people have specific past identities as opposed to the unification of all life? seems like a very human-centric narrative to me.
I am honestly okay with the idea of anything being true after death. Afterlife or not... it doesn't matter to me. What bothers me is people who act like they KNOW what the answer is. Even Steve-O here kind of frustrates me how he keeps like correcting them on things and saying "well there's undeniable evidence". No there isn't? People claiming they saw things during an unconscious state is not undeniable evidence. Nothing against Steve-O, but you can tell he's just made up his mind. He's already decided what he wants there to be and he can't waiver away from that. The fact is... NONE OF US know what the universe is, or what happens after life, or where we came from. You might think you know. You might have a really good idea, but NO ONE knows, period.
Fun fact: planes calculate weights and stuff based on averages. They're not out there weighing passengers and bags and shit. They probably had too many bags in the cargo hold or too much fuel, so they had to be like "well that means one less person". I think they also apply different "averages" for places like American Samoa because they're way heavier on average. On smaller planes or empty flights you may get asked to move to a different seat for weight distribution, and ground crews can also load dumbbells into the cargo hold for balance. Bonus fun fact: on any given flight probably 10-15 people are what's called non-revs. Meaning their ticket was "at cost" or free because they're friends / family to airline workers. So they can often be the first asked to make room if a paying passenger shows up. But when you hear "the plane is completely full" it's probably because all the gaps were filled with non revs. Rarely is it 100% sold out and everyone actually shows up to the gate.
A workmates father died on the operating table (heart attack I think?) and he was dead for some time before the doctor/team brought him back. He said that he saw something when he died but that it was utterly horrendous but always refused to go into detail even to his son (my workmate) But what he saw terrified him and made him incredibly fearful for what comes after.
That sounds horrible to keep thinking about it and being scared of dieing because of what could be whaling for him. Did he straighten up and become religious after or did he go the opposite way and say screw it I know what’s waiting might as well break all the rules.
If you’ve ever taken acid you’d know you can have a good trip or, occasionally, a bad trip. The same goes for the chemicals in one’s brain that are activated when dying, along with the effects of lack of oxygen. I took a fall off of some scaffold. I was over 50’ off the ground so I knew, factually, I was going to die. Obviously that didn’t happen, but even without dying, just the chemicals released during that fall stretched time out for minutes seemingly, and I experienced total peace and all fear of death left me. That happened without dying for a short time. Just imagine how much more intense it is for those whose brains get the full dose (for either good or bad). Luckily, while time is distorted wildly, once we do actually die there’s nothing. Sorry. We all experience the same exact thing as we did before we were born. Do you remember how terrifying that was? Of course not.
@@jessebott1879 he certainly didn't become religious. But whatever it was deeply troubled him. The fact that he wouldn't share it with anyone makes it hard to judge what, if anything, could be done to ease that existential dread.
Really good stuff guys. Seriously strong discussion on the afterlife, life, and being alive! I would have loved to have been part of this discussion haha!
This was so damn interesting, I’m from NJ, very close to where they have filmed various films, particularly near Quick Stop in Middletown, NJ! Kevin is such a amazing speaker, i could listen to this guy all damn day long! No stuttering, no it’s and buts, just straight up attention soaking.
I overdosed and died for a few minutes when I was around 15. I didn't have a life flashed before my eyes experience. Everything just went black, and it felt like I was part of that darkness, just floating. Thought, I can just give up and die right now. Then i thought, no, I'm still young, i just started seeing this girl, (didn't know it but she was pregnant with one of my sons at the time,) and i went nah, not ready to die yet. Next thing i knew, i could see the hospital around me, and the doctor was getting ready to hit me with the paddles.
Around 18:30, on the topic of “Life Review” versus DMT Effects, it would be important to remember that the brain tends to auto-fill any unknowns using what’s on file. In some cases, all it’s got to work with are our longworn nay eternal archetypes. Therefore similar stories.
My pal wasnt heading toward the light, he said he had a candle, and was travelling in dark cave, he actually mentioned it like its wasn't significant as in: "Oh yeah the only thing that happened when I had my heart attack was I had a dream of walking down a tunnel holding a candle and I had a decision to keep going, or turn back, and I turned back." He had no clue that was a NDE.
I believe that Kevin has said previously that smoking weed that day also attributed to saving his life since it kept his BP down, he remained relatively calm, and didn’t feel any pain.
I know there is more after death. Believe it or not. I had a dream (more than a dream) of a friend who came to me and told me goodbye and asked me to tell his parents he was not in pain. The next day I pooped it off as just a dream, until my brother called and said I have some bad news. I finished his sentence - Michael G is dead. He was floored, cause that was exactly what he was about to say. He had been hit by a motorcycle at the same time I was visited. We were in a crystal clear realm in the visit. It happened. I was given knowledge I did not have. He was him after death.
Psychedelic visions is all based on context so in the context of death the dmt show different visions, typically psychedelics show you what you need to see at that moment to progress you where you need to go, or to heal/progress your mentality/psyche, when you die the all you could possibly need to see is closure, so that's why they see that. (Fun Fact: the pineal gland "the seed of the soul" that releases the dmt is in the exact shape of the eye of Horus, as the Pharos job was to communicate to the gods, they did so by drinking "yrp" from the tree of life which gave them the visions that make up their religion, our behavioral modernity is largely shaped by the use of these substances in shamanism and diet to help form the way we think today, and the Egyptians saw this, hence tree of life, and so to progress the species and themselves they used these to essentially become the gods that they saw as through such they made us who we are today. There is many religions that have the saying "the divinity within" as prayer alike meditation is reaching within to find a way to make ourselves better and many believe the sense of divinity that people feel originates from the pineal as the eye of Horus allows one to see the visions of the gods that gave us the strength to build the pyramids. I think God is the divinity within induced by the pineal as something to help make our selves better and therefore is a major cause of evolution as represented by the neurogenesis of the upper paleolithic revolution that was largely caused by fire which made shamanism safer to therefore boost our mental development and rise up the tree of life.)
This is one of the most interesting interviews I have ever watched. Even though I generally see myself as a non-believer I still think this gives you a lot to think about.
When my mom passed away it was shortly after I left. I was driving home it was 3:13 and I felt my mom go through me. it was so odd soon as I felt it I yell mom. When I got home my nephews stopped over and told me she passed on my way home..
The movie sliding doors shows I feel a good example of those predetermined points. You are there at those times and places and experiences. But you still have your choices.
I have colon problems and they've been getting terrible lately. I've been having a lot of flashes and dreams about my past. Idk about the out of body stuff, but I do think the brain reflects back on the past when the feeling of our own demise is near.
Never in my life have I heard such a profound, intelligent, and relatable conversation on creation and the afterlife. Incredible that this came from Steve-o's podcast of all places. Thank you for opening my mind to new possibilities, and thank you for being so genuine. I love what you're doing here
Kevin was incredibly patient with all these guys. they're talking about completely unprovable and hopeful ideas, which Kevin described are very possible to simply be presuppositional, which means that you're going to look for a familiar hopeful idea. that of which there happen to be plenty of mythological hopeful ideas among every culture, because of course the uncertainty of what happens after death is spooky.
does the fear in the unknowable validate committing to a complete guess based on our unimaginably limited human perspectives? if someone saw a meat grinder and didn't yet learn what meat grinders were, would they be valid in committing fully to touching the meat grinder? or would they perhaps use a tool to experimentally test what happens when something touches the meat grinder? unfortunately, testing for a God or souls has so far proven to be completely futile. i'm not saying that excludes the possibility, but i'm saying that maybe you shouldn't touch the meat grinder with your hand.
hell, the one guy said he thought he was vietnamese in the past life. explain to me this. if we are "all one" then why in the world do people have specific past identities as opposed to the whole unified experience of everyone?
do you know why? because the narrative of unification is far less interesting and dramatic for people to be entertained by than these singular godlike figures who we fabricate to be a representation of ourselves, and ignorantly not a different animal -- though some other religions like those in India actually do have animals for Gods.
I second what SuperDuperDuc has said. This was really great to watch
cokeheads everywhere have this conversation nightly.
You can spend your entire life studying scripture and still not connect with the spiritual and mystical nature of the messages conveyed, whereas here we have two people who have experienced life at the most extreme ends, the highest highs, and the lowest lows. These men probably abandoned the idea of God or a spiritual force holding the universe together long ago. And between the time of abandonment and now they have come to many different conclusions on life, and what I find fascinating is that most people who have experienced a lot of life always come to a similar conclusion. More complex and comprehensible than most religious scholars and leaders, because it’s not just copy and paste indoctrination that they regurgitate, it’s a true life experience and years of rumination coming to an apex of consciousness.
Fk yeah
Kevin Smith is a master story teller.
Not Master of The Universe story teller, though
That’s a funny way of saying Kevin Smith is a washed up, has-been, slandering good for nothing. But hey, to each their own I guess.
uh oh, Midas is triggered
@@erakattack the truth does trigger some people. That or you can just continue on. Ignorance is bliss I suppose.
TRIGGERED
I have panic attacks when i think about death. The idea of life just... ending... and then non-existence... it really freaks me out.
Kevins outlook and the peace he felt when he thought it was the end really brought me a lot of comfort about it. I hope when my time comes, I get to experience the same calm acceptance.
Probably not though
@@modest1989 guess i'll need to remember to smoke a bunch of weed lol
@@tyguy6296 it's all we can do
Had the same experience and I can tell you, you will feel calmer than you imagine, dong worry so much the body has it’s ways of helping you cope
Do you flip out about how you never existed for billions of years before you were born? Why should death be interpreted any differently? Dying sucks; that’s the experience which is to be feared and appreciated but death? That’s just a state of nonexistence, just like before we were alive
I’ve heard Kevin give his perspective on death following the heart attack several times, and it’s really profound and beautiful. His words ring true regardless of what you believe happens after we die, however I think they are especially powerful if you don’t believe in life after death. He lays out with humility how death is not something to be feared. And I find that to be very inspirational. This is the first time I’ve heard him say that she leans towards that we are basically just computers and eventually we just end. But I really related to what Steve-O had to say , as well.
It takes way more faith to think our soul ends at death and that there's nothing beyond the material world.
regardless of what you believe... or don't. yes. well said .
@@bigguy7353 it takes infinitely more faith to believe that there is a soul at all, as opposed the the obvious materials that we are. have you ever considered that before?
The concept of non-existence makes no sense. It's hard to comprehend so watch all the near death experiences out there.
Best podcast soo far , really enjoyed everyone’s point of view for the afterlife 👍… nice calm Exchange of points and views, no right or wrong or passed judge … no argument or debate. Great points from different Resouces.
TBH I like him better just thrashing himself. This dude isn't cut out for legit business
I'm fucking terrified that there's no afterlife man. My life here has been pretty rough so far and the thought that my kids are destined for nothing has given me some pretty bad insomnia for months
@@norman4877 the fact that we perceive time as constantly unfolding instead of just fast-forwarding to the end means there’s a conscious state waiting for us in which we can recall memory. That state would be the afterlife. If we just cut to black and there was nothing, we would already be there and thinking of nothing, just like in a blackout. We are moving around and doing stuff but we don’t remember it so we essentially time travel to the next point in which we can recall memory. So because we remember everything as it happens, means there’s some form of awareness for the rest of existence that will allow us to look back on our life and recall. Your relative time perception within consciousness is a constant proof that your kids have a forever after. It’s up to you and them to make sure it’s a happy one 😊 Pray to something and eventually He will reveal himself to you
Yes……
@@WesleyB-Rook give me some sauce on this perspective. It's interesting but I'm needing more explanation
Not meaning to sound dismissive or anything. I'm extremely interested in any takes that can help rid me of my fucking depression that is a direct result of my nihilism
This is one of if not THE best conversations and guests Steve O has had on the pod cast. I had an almost identical experience as Kevin did about six months ago. My wife and kids were asleep and I started feeling really fucked up. I had been feeling sick for a week like I had the flu and was not able to take full deep breaths. As I laid there on my couch feeling very strange I broke out into a profuse sweat, but I figured it was the bug I thought I had. I decided to jump into the shower to cool off and because I was really sweating. I remember realizing in the shower that something was seriously wrong and that was going to lose consciousness. I remember thinking "please God let me stay conscious long enough to take a shit and put on my underwear. I was able to keep myself up and awake long enough to take a shit and wipe myself good with baby wipes because I figured I might have to go to the hospital. My mistake during this time was not yelling for my wife Jennifer to help me or call an ambulance. I finished my shit and washed my hands, and went to sit on the couch to put my underwear and shorts on. The last thing I remember was finally calling out to my wife "Jennifer something's wrong!' and then waking up on the hallway floor looking up at my wife who was crying on the phone to the 911 operator. I realized what was happening and remembered what had happened previously. I said to myself "Dude, get the fuck up off the floor your wife is terrified!" and tried to get up off of the floor, but literally could only roll onto my back and kind of lean my head against the wall. I kept looking into my wife's terrified eyes as to let her know I'm still here, even though I could feel my body slipping away. I was SO tired I wanted to shut my eyes but I had to keep them open and look my wife in the eyes to try and ease her fear. I said "I'm here honey!' and kept trying to inch my back up the wall. So weak and tired it was like my life force was leaking out onto the floor. The EMT's got to my house pretty quickly and mind you my two children are sound asleep (thank God) while three EMT's are putting heart leads on my chest and getting an EKG going. I'm sweating so profusely that the leads are slipping off and they tell me and my wife I'm in serious cardiac arrest. I mustered up one last bit of strength to grab an EMT's hand and help them help me to my feet. I took one step to the gurney and they strapped in right in my hallway by my front door. As were going towards the front door I lost consciousness again and I went somewhere. I don't quite know what this experience was but it was like plunging into a digital realm that was surrounded by vibrant red and gold almost like palace tapestry, but pixelated like a 90's video game. It was beautiful and I felt calm. This experience seemed to last a while, then all of a sudden in the blink of an eye my head lifted and I looked at the EMT's and my wife and said "Whoa! I just just had a dream!" and we weren't even out of my front door yet. I felt the cold night air on my bare chest as they rolled me down my front walkway and I felt like I was going to barf. I kept telling them I'm going to puke. They got me into the ambulance and the gravity started to hit me. We pulled away from my house and two EMT's (one on each side) have my wrists and they're trying to get a pulse. They look at each other with concern and each one agrees they can't feel a pulse. I said to them "That isn't good guys, is it?!?!" and they looked at me reassuringly and said "We're gonna get you there!"
As I lay there feeling the urgency of the driver and the speed with which he was pushing that rig I remember being so tired. Like a tired I'd never felt before. A tired that had me afraid to close my eyes even though my body was telling me to close them. I looked up at the ceiling of this ambulance and it hit me, THIS MIGHT BE IT! This ceiling and these EMT's may be the last thing I see. I started getting a bit sad even though I wasn't in despair or sobbing or saying I don't want to die. I was just sad at the thought that I wouldn't see my wife or kids again. I said "God if you want to take me do it, but please if there's more to do let me stay!" and right after that we pulled into Vallejo Kaiser where I was taken because I desperately needed an aortic pump installed. I was in a room with twelve people buzzing around me administering COVID-19 tests, reapplying heart leads slipping off from profuse sweat, and doctors feeling my feet and wrists as they asked me questions to keep me alert. I was whisked away to an operating room, shaved, and a doctor snaked a camera and pump through my femoral artery near my groin and into my heart. He looked at me and the other staff and said "His arteries are clean!" and then withdrew the camera and left the pump in my aorta. A machine at the foot of the table controlled the strokes of this pump in my heart and it felt like mechanically induced hiccups, but it was a balloon expanding and contracting with each faint beat of my heart. I immediately started to feel better though still not out of dire straights as far as anybody knew. The doctor explained to me that I had suffered an acute myocarditis due to the virus I had and that my heart walls had become thin. I was taken back to intensive care and only after it seemed I wasn't going to die that a nurse kind of explained the gravity of what I had just endured. Only then did I start to cry when I thought about the people who had just saved my life. My wife heard me hit the floor and woke up to call the ambulance. Saved my life. The EMT's got there quickly and diagnosed me quickly and made the decision to take me to the right hospital. Saved my life. The doctors and nurses at Vallejo Kaiser figured out what I needed and the doctor placed the pump in my heart in the nick of time. Saved my life. I had tears of reflection and of utter gratitude running down my face as I realized God's answer to my request was that there's more to do. Need not forget that. Long story short I spent the next six days at California Pacific hospital in San Francisco at a World Class cardiac ICU and was taken off of the heart pump on day six. I walked out of the hospital almost as if nothing happened, even though my heart wasn't at full capacity. My two boys who I hadn't seen in almost nine days were maybe the best thing I'd ever seen and boy was I seeing through new eyes. I need to remember this experience and how lucky I am and how each day I open my eyes is a gift with a purpose. I need to live with purpose. Having recently lost my beloved sister I am aware of how precious and fragile this experience I get to have really is. Almost six months has passed since this close to death experience and I had started to forget it even happened. I have an MRI next week to check on my heart and I can only hope it's good news. I've made some healthy changes and am living with purpose. Not perfect but progress. I'm not done here and wish all of the best for you my family and friends!
Oh man, your story has me crying over my breakfast. Thank you for sharing, glad to hear you made it through.
Thank you to that doctor for giving us many more years of laughs from Kevin....he is an American Icon. God bless
Pretty sure hes from canada
Kevin smith is from NJ
@@virgilbright5842 someone doesn't listen
He survived the heart attack and went from American icon to destroying icons of America. Absolute pity he survived unfortunately
@@kavalogue what did he do
easily the best interview hands down
Thank you Stevo-o and crew for making these pods. Truly entertaining and a great host man.
Had the exact same heart attack at around the same time Kevin did, I had two 90% blockages and what he was talking about was very similar to my own experience too, I remember hearing about his one when I was in hospital, I wasn’t overweight and was fairly fit but I was two years younger than him and it felt like a movie and I was watching it on tv, like him I realised this could be it and as I was thinking that I heard the doctors having a regular chat about cars and it kind of brought me back, I’ve since had a new lease of life, joined a gym and feel a lot better than I did before I had the attack, if anyone else reading or watching this has swollen ankles, don’t ignore it like I did, it’s a sign that your body is not working right, go get it checked, mind yourself 🙏
You had a widowmaker? And did they tell you what caused the low EF you likely had that was causing the swollen ankles?
fuck. i don't know if i'd say swollen ankles, but after eating a pint of Ben & Jerry's (once or twice a week), or indulging in a chocolate chip cookie, i'll sometimes feel something in my left ankle. Sometimes my leg will even go numb for about 30 seconds before the numbness fades away. Nothing looks or feels particularly swollen though
I definitely gotta start working out again too. Lost a ton of motivation since i started working regularly a few years ago. I'm currently 25. Reading that just triggered my health anxiety a bit ngl. I gotta schedule for my annual physical soon anyway, since i'm due for one this year
Thanks for sharing. Glad you are doing great
@@mikeyt2404 I had no signs I had gone on a 5 mile cycle actually and my sock felt tight when I got home i noticed my ankle was huge, I spoke to my mother and she said it was just water retention as she suffers from it, later that night I got strange chest pains that felt like a cramp, at about 3 am I was still in pain so I decided to go to the hospital, I sat down waiting in the reception for 3 hours not realising I was having heart attacks, eventually they seen me and I was rushed in to get the stents immediately, the doctor said if I had gone to bed I would not be here today, no warning it happened just like that, only symptoms were swollen ankles and tightness across the chest that felt like muscle cramps, but the doctor said the ankles were a sign of bad blood flow so I just wanted to share my experience
@@lavenderllamamusic honestly man, get it checked, it was my left ankle too, even if it’s for peace of mind
I am an ER Nurse Medical/Acute, Kevin got lucky, he didn't have a massive heart attack but he could have if he had waited another hour or more. A massive heart attack would have left him in months of recovery and a fair percentage of destroyed heart tissue leaving him with a greatly diminished function for the rest of his life. I love how he changed his lifestyle after, sadly I have seen many many people never change a thing after recovery.
Okay, doc. Tell us how you would have done the surgery.
i got lucky, i waited like 14 hours, i am young just 41, and has what they called a STIMI but no lasting damage thank god
I love how Steve O is laughing while he talks about him having a heart attack
I know what he means, I was in a plane accident and I didn’t want it to be happening, but I just looked at my family and smiled . It was a weird peace and appreciation that floods you. It was eerie how everyone on the plane went deathly quiet.
How bad was the accident? Was it a crash or what?
@@Dev-In-Denver123 Thankfully we landed mostly safely in a field in Newark of all places.
We were flying back to visit family in Europe as we do each year. The crap part was it wasn’t too long after 9. 11. So the security stuff wasn’t figured out yet and it was sheer madness. Finally getting on the plane and we were halfway across the Atlantic. We were having awful turbulence but that sometimes happens if there’s a storm or something. I looked out the window and saw flames and the plane was dumping stuff. I asked my Ma what was coming out the plane and she just closed the window. A bit later the pilot came on to tell us we lost half our engines and we were turning back around to America for an emergency landing and he would try to make it to an airstrip but wasn’t sure. It was deadly silent and very very eerie. Finally we barely made it back to America and he found a field in Newark and we all just buckled . It was soo spooky but after we caught our breath there was a standing ovation. We had to wait for the fire people and then medics checking us one by one before departing.
The crap part too was trying to find hotels for all of us and my Ma trying to get ahold of my Da on the west coast to let our family know in England because they were picking us up.
We also helped a German group because theY were confused.
I did try to figure out with my husbeast why he didn’t try to land in England rather going back to America. I think it may have had to do with airspace ? Perhaps having more breathing room in case something else happened?
It was very scary though. We did get an official letter about a lawsuit and something about it being a 72 hour delay from our destination.
Going from a 30 minute deep and thought-provoking conversation on spirituality and the afterlife, straight into Steve-O promoting his new book "A Hard Kick in the Nuts" is easily a top 10 life experience for me. Still laughing my ass off.
Thank you, Steve-O. 🤣
I love this conversation, things I think about often.
l love hearing Kevin Smith tell stories, engaging , insightful and just funny as hell!
could listen to this guy all day!
I’m not scared. I like to think I’ll get to see my dog again and that alone brings me peace
💀🤣
@@jetrifle4209 yikes
@@spe.z.artist I’d gladly die right now to see my doghter again.
Steve-O, that's the best explanation of the meaning of life I've ever heard. Thank you, friend.
I love seeing people, who don't necessarily have the same beliefs, just shoot the shit about it and just chat.
How did this interview hit me so deep? I was just talking about Kevin's life to my older coworker and now this interview just hit me.
Kevin Smith is a Legend to me it goes deep I feel ya. Glad he's still with us. From childhood to today he's provided endless comedy and lots of reflective thinking. He's a great writer.
It was hitting me hard too, felt like crying the whole time but not out of sadness.
I did Ayahuasca and I 100 percent had a life review. No one else at the ceremony did.
My trip started by going to the light.
I was told if I wanted to, I could leave my body for good right then.
It's hard to describe or condense the experience into words but I definitely think it depends on what the person is ready to know/experience. You won't experience something your not ready for.
holy shit man. good on you for holding it together, i had some experiences with lsd, about a dozen over 5 years and having done that i respect anyone to do any of the big boy psychedelics lol.
Fantastic conversation and I enjoyed the back and forth. Like Kevin said, if I ever thought I'd hear a deep conversation about the afterlife with Steve-O and KS, I'd be like, "huh?"
I had a heart attack last January at 42.. had two blockages of 98 percent.. If it wasn't for my wife I would have laid down and just died because it was exactly like Mr Smith said. My wife phoning 911 and the ambulance attendants saved my life. Never did see a light or anyone familiar to me. Just remember blinking back into awareness to don't die on me in the ambulance.. I've never been afraid of death because sadly rare medical conditions expedite near death experiences. From what I've seen he is kinda right your here today and gone tomorrow the wind down is abrupt..
I had a near death experience this year.
I woke up, got ready for work and headed out. I drove my route and was about 30 feet from my job, I had one last street to cross. I pull out and next thing I knew I was spinning. This guy had been doing 106mph in a 45, he hit the brake for 1 sec according to the black box info. The impact was a t-bone at 103 mph.
I had a dissected aorta, my spleen was destroyed, my lung collapsed, broke my hip is several spots, had to have emergency surgery to stop internal bleeding. Tbh the mental health has been the more difficult to overcome. I'm healing up now and just so ready for life and fearful at the same time. It really really changed my outlook and opinions on life.
The story is crazier than that. Just too much for typing. Just wanted to chip in my story and experience.
Sorry that happened to you man, glad you’re still with us.
You survived a busted aorta, you have more to do here.
Happy to hear you are recovering! Did you experience certain things would you explain if your up to it. Like explain if you had seen a light or what not. Like a life review or your own unique experiences.
I didn't expect to hear such a deep reflection on life & death from this interview.
Love Kevin, Love Steve-O, loved this video. Keep growing and encouraging us to grow.
Kevin Smith is awesome. I’ve loved all the entertainment he’s created over the years! It’s too bad there are people that want to complain, rather than go watch what they enjoy. I’m super excited for MooseJaws!
For myself I had that once, the feeling just before death, and yes, every responsibility melts away... You know what was the weirdest one: Breathing, as if its not some automatic thing we do in our minds, but some automatic thing we do because of some absolutely monumental deep instinctual stress motivating it.
Damn dude this was deep and dope, his perspective on this really shows you why he is successful
My exact words to the nurse when she said "your having a heart attack" was "you need to check your equipment because I KNOW what a heart attack looks like, (clutching my chest while holding other arm straight out) THIS IS THE BIG ONE, HERE I COME" The silver lining of my attack is that I can tell my story to all my friends around my age and maybe one day they will recognize the very mild symptoms and go to the doctor. Hell, I was 39 years old, not obese, active and hasn't smoked in more than 10 years...doc said I won the genetic lottery so it can happen to anyone. Tell as many people as you can what you felt and to not give the EMS static because you don't want a nurse to see your man boobs and sac!
@Cosmo || Anime Analyst not 100% certain but probably chicken breast or ground bison with some kind of green and a carb.
love Kevin Smith, glad he is still here FMB!
The crazy part of NDE and life review is when people experience scary things. The experiences people describe that are dark, gritty, scary and horrifying and the opposite of "heavenly" and warm and "happy go to the light". Those fascinated me
I had a heart attack at 44. Had to get a quadruple bypass. I died twice during the surgery. I had a NDE. For my experience there is definitely life after death. It was the most peaceful thing. There are no words. Yes you feel light and realize you have zero worries. I literally thought to myself, "oh, this is it?" I knew I was dead and I couldn't have been less concerned. At first it was pitch black. Then all of a sudden I was in a place of light. I was greeted by two women. There were hundreds of people there tho. One of the women told me I wouldn't be staying. When I woke up the pain and fear came rushing back. Anyways. I believe your conscience goes on.
It's important to tell others about that. Our energy goes on.
I had a experience very similar to Kevin when it comes to accepting death. It was in hs and there was an accident and I knew I was dying and it was just like an "oh ok... this is happening ... oh well.." but then I woke up... came out on the other side in the hospital bed and since then and even before a bit I was at peace with it. Still to this day. But I will say it changes you. Love this podcast episode... how can you not love Kevin Smith. He's so cool and sincere and wonderful
To my understanding and belief the thing about the pre determined events vs free will is the events happen so that you can choose how u deal with it. They teach you something. You have lessons to learn and lessons to teach.
I could listen to Kevin talk for hours.
Kevin is right. Who the fuck thought Steve-O could go that deep.
After having a heart attack myself and being saved your story is exactly like mine, use the fact that your alive and have a second chance at life do something good to help others. ❤
"Hard drive spins down and that's it"
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I died for the first time when I was 18. I will die again. I'm with Steve-o in camp unity.
I had a NDE as a teen and didn't realize it until I smoked DMT years later. The experiences were very similar for me.
Love this show ! Makes me feel less lonely like I’m somehow in the same room with them ❤
Can relate...even the same hospital...he nailed it..
Wow my Dad and Kevin Smith beat the statistics. Same exact way and everything, my dad actually drove himself to the ER with the family on the phone. This is a truly unique coincidence.
Clerks is one of the greatest pieces of art ever created.
This is fucking great conversation
Yo I didn't know Steve-O was this philosophical. This is my kind of conversation
You guys got hella deep!! Great fucking interview!! I like deep thoughts with Steve-O!!!
“We’ve gotta remove your jorts”
D E A T H before D I S H O N O R 😄 Fucking hilarious
I had died approximately 5 minutes from a international od.. the light I experienced was myself. No physical form, just points of lights. Some brighter than others, making the shape of my body. Life flashed past me, everyone seemed familiar. Than just me suspended in darkness. I was than defibrillated back. Most painful thing I ever experienced. No pain, no worries had all came flooding back, every nerve ached. Wouldn't wish it on anyone.
"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another." The energy of life and consciousness is no different.
I believe in heaven because, I believe in consciousness, not religion but, spirituality yes. I love how you guys talk Soul contracts and Delores Cannon.
great conversation, both you guys are awesome
I love this clip. I once read a book about near death experiences and I remember being gripped by it. I would love to revisit this topic.
confession time. i had a NDE at the age of 18 due to my drug addiction. im 27 now. ive spent the last 9 years just hoping to go back to that place. idk if its heaven but there is something better after this. i happily await that. its ok to look forward to it i think, better even.
Steve o laughing at kevs heart attack is endearing 😂
Short simple, Increible conversation!
Honestly kevin smith is an inspiration to better myself not only physically but as a person on a whole. Super glad he took the wake up call and bettered his lifestyle so we could keep watching his movies and stand up. Love this guy even though ive never had the pleasure to meet him. Would love to just chill with him and talk about comics for a whole day lol
I think the reason people who do psychedelics don’t experience a “life-review” is simply because they’re not dying. Like Kevin said, your brain can’t relate to the trauma of dying because it’s never had to experience it before and anyone who has done psychedelics can tell you that your trip is usually pulling from whatever your current state of mind is. Of course people tripping on DMT aren’t going to report a similar experience to people at death's door. They’re not facing the reality of non-existence in that moment.
But sometimes they do because they actually think that they are dead or dying
Kevin had waaaay too much patience for these guys. the one dude said he thought he was vietnamese in his past life with a hippy smile on his stupid face. these guys simply gravitate to entertaining ideas, which is an incredibly depressing presentation of human stupidity. why do people have specific past identities as opposed to the unification of all life? seems like a very human-centric narrative to me.
and yeah you make a good point. DMT while you're not dying vs DMT while you're dying is probably 2 entirely different animals.
This is what conversations turn into when you smoke The Marijuanas
I am honestly okay with the idea of anything being true after death. Afterlife or not... it doesn't matter to me. What bothers me is people who act like they KNOW what the answer is. Even Steve-O here kind of frustrates me how he keeps like correcting them on things and saying "well there's undeniable evidence". No there isn't? People claiming they saw things during an unconscious state is not undeniable evidence. Nothing against Steve-O, but you can tell he's just made up his mind. He's already decided what he wants there to be and he can't waiver away from that.
The fact is... NONE OF US know what the universe is, or what happens after life, or where we came from. You might think you know. You might have a really good idea, but NO ONE knows, period.
Fun fact: planes calculate weights and stuff based on averages. They're not out there weighing passengers and bags and shit. They probably had too many bags in the cargo hold or too much fuel, so they had to be like "well that means one less person". I think they also apply different "averages" for places like American Samoa because they're way heavier on average. On smaller planes or empty flights you may get asked to move to a different seat for weight distribution, and ground crews can also load dumbbells into the cargo hold for balance.
Bonus fun fact: on any given flight probably 10-15 people are what's called non-revs. Meaning their ticket was "at cost" or free because they're friends / family to airline workers. So they can often be the first asked to make room if a paying passenger shows up. But when you hear "the plane is completely full" it's probably because all the gaps were filled with non revs. Rarely is it 100% sold out and everyone actually shows up to the gate.
A workmates father died on the operating table (heart attack I think?) and he was dead for some time before the doctor/team brought him back. He said that he saw something when he died but that it was utterly horrendous but always refused to go into detail even to his son (my workmate) But what he saw terrified him and made him incredibly fearful for what comes after.
So scary I know someone who had a similar experience with an OD but he was able to he brought back.
That sounds horrible to keep thinking about it and being scared of dieing because of what could be whaling for him. Did he straighten up and become religious after or did he go the opposite way and say screw it I know what’s waiting might as well break all the rules.
If you’ve ever taken acid you’d know you can have a good trip or, occasionally, a bad trip. The same goes for the chemicals in one’s brain that are activated when dying, along with the effects of lack of oxygen. I took a fall off of some scaffold. I was over 50’ off the ground so I knew, factually, I was going to die. Obviously that didn’t happen, but even without dying, just the chemicals released during that fall stretched time out for minutes seemingly, and I experienced total peace and all fear of death left me. That happened without dying for a short time. Just imagine how much more intense it is for those whose brains get the full dose (for either good or bad). Luckily, while time is distorted wildly, once we do actually die there’s nothing. Sorry. We all experience the same exact thing as we did before we were born. Do you remember how terrifying that was? Of course not.
He tasted the DMT
@@jessebott1879 he certainly didn't become religious. But whatever it was deeply troubled him. The fact that he wouldn't share it with anyone makes it hard to judge what, if anything, could be done to ease that existential dread.
Dude had his faith destroyed by the dumbest logic ever presented. Sad
the best 30 minutes this year so far ! on all youtube.!!
Really good stuff guys. Seriously strong discussion on the afterlife, life, and being alive! I would have loved to have been part of this discussion haha!
This was so damn interesting, I’m from NJ, very close to where they have filmed various films, particularly near Quick Stop in Middletown, NJ! Kevin is such a amazing speaker, i could listen to this guy all damn day long! No stuttering, no it’s and buts, just straight up attention soaking.
as someone who has tripped on dmt, I have had my life flash before my eyes, in very intricate detail
I like how SteveO takes any anecdote as “proof”
He’s SteveO not PlatO
@@Hilder78 lmaooooo
He thinks he's smarter than what he actually is 😂
@@wastedtalent666 a microphone tends to do that to people lol
Well, if he over exaggerates his story, then he's bullshiting
I overdosed and died for a few minutes when I was around 15. I didn't have a life flashed before my eyes experience. Everything just went black, and it felt like I was part of that darkness, just floating. Thought, I can just give up and die right now. Then i thought, no, I'm still young, i just started seeing this girl, (didn't know it but she was pregnant with one of my sons at the time,) and i went nah, not ready to die yet. Next thing i knew, i could see the hospital around me, and the doctor was getting ready to hit me with the paddles.
Around 18:30, on the topic of “Life Review” versus DMT Effects, it would be important to remember that the brain tends to auto-fill any unknowns using what’s on file. In some cases, all it’s got to work with are our longworn nay eternal archetypes. Therefore similar stories.
Death before dishonor...great line steve o
Not really. I've seen it on Bic lighters
My pal wasnt heading toward the light, he said he had a candle, and was travelling in dark cave, he actually mentioned it like its wasn't significant as in: "Oh yeah the only thing that happened when I had my heart attack was I had a dream of walking down a tunnel holding a candle and I had a decision to keep going, or turn back, and I turned back."
He had no clue that was a NDE.
Loved it looking forward to my review popcorn is already popping 🍿
24:39 ANGEL HEART. Awesome reference and amazing movie
I believe that Kevin has said previously that smoking weed that day also attributed to saving his life since it kept his BP down, he remained relatively calm, and didn’t feel any pain.
SteveO I’ve been watching your podcast for a while now and this episode has been the best one ☝️ love u dudes 🤘
Heaven is where your soul goes if you led a honest life. You made a difference with your life.
I’m glad he’s healthy and alive. Clerks 3 was so fuckin good and after seeing this I can tell where the story of the movie kinda came from
I know there is more after death. Believe it or not. I had a dream (more than a dream) of a friend who came to me and told me goodbye and asked me to tell his parents he was not in pain. The next day I pooped it off as just a dream, until my brother called and said I have some bad news. I finished his sentence - Michael G is dead. He was floored, cause that was exactly what he was about to say. He had been hit by a motorcycle at the same time I was visited. We were in a crystal clear realm in the visit. It happened. I was given knowledge I did not have. He was him after death.
I didn't know I had a heart attack until almost a week after it happened...
This was an unexpectedly awesome video to stumble across
I’m in tears. Holy shit. A lot to take in..
Psychedelic visions is all based on context so in the context of death the dmt show different visions, typically psychedelics show you what you need to see at that moment to progress you where you need to go, or to heal/progress your mentality/psyche, when you die the all you could possibly need to see is closure, so that's why they see that. (Fun Fact: the pineal gland "the seed of the soul" that releases the dmt is in the exact shape of the eye of Horus, as the Pharos job was to communicate to the gods, they did so by drinking "yrp" from the tree of life which gave them the visions that make up their religion, our behavioral modernity is largely shaped by the use of these substances in shamanism and diet to help form the way we think today, and the Egyptians saw this, hence tree of life, and so to progress the species and themselves they used these to essentially become the gods that they saw as through such they made us who we are today. There is many religions that have the saying "the divinity within" as prayer alike meditation is reaching within to find a way to make ourselves better and many believe the sense of divinity that people feel originates from the pineal as the eye of Horus allows one to see the visions of the gods that gave us the strength to build the pyramids. I think God is the divinity within induced by the pineal as something to help make our selves better and therefore is a major cause of evolution as represented by the neurogenesis of the upper paleolithic revolution that was largely caused by fire which made shamanism safer to therefore boost our mental development and rise up the tree of life.)
Angle Heart. still to this Dayan amazing compelling film. One of a kind.
Come on Steve-O, do some homework. It’s fuckin Kevin Smith!
This is a great conversation
This is one of the most interesting interviews I have ever watched. Even though I generally see myself as a non-believer I still think this gives you a lot to think about.
Definitely, something that leaves you with the old adage of food for though great convo as well
7:30 - "He disappeared into my crotch and did magic and shit....." 🙄😏🤣
When my mom passed away it was shortly after I left. I was driving home it was 3:13 and I felt my mom go through me. it was so odd soon as I felt it I yell mom. When I got home my nephews stopped over and told me she passed on my way home..
That highschool analogy was spot on.
Straight up the plot to clerks 3 lol
The movie sliding doors shows I feel a good example of those predetermined points. You are there at those times and places and experiences. But you still have your choices.
You can see the growth in Steve-O through how he’s learned to allow his guests to talk and talk less himself.
Great interview!!
Kevin Smith is a gem. and steveO is surprisingly gullible when it comes to the afterlife.
I have colon problems and they've been getting terrible lately. I've been having a lot of flashes and dreams about my past. Idk about the out of body stuff, but I do think the brain reflects back on the past when the feeling of our own demise is near.
Like a review of childhood / growing up experiences ?