There's an old community-made map, CP Broma, that uses a trigger entity that enables color correction ONLY when you're fighting around the capture area. I'm not sure how the map-maker got the idea, but it gives a cinematic feel to those fights, and it's super cool
I had no clue TF2 had color correcting built into the developer console, I thought it was only used during the initial creation of the maps. Very cool!
@@oktayyildirim2911 i doubt its blended, but a simple fix is to put one middle man-color correction inbetween 2 different ones,it wont be perfect and probably hidden with geometry but it does the job
@@oktayyildirim2911 The amount of time it takes to fade between two color corrections is adjustable. It can be instant, it can take 1 second, it can take 100 seconds. It's all up to the mapper.
Actually crazy that the source engine has full on color grading tools. This is a part of the engine i never even knew existed. Now combined with sfm's animation and shot editing, could the color grading, and maybe finding a way to add compositing and layers, make a Source Video Editor?
As a mapper, I'm surprised you're so confused about why color correction isn't more common in TF2. The answer is simple: too much color correction will make it hard to distinguish teams, and too little color correction is a waste of time for most people. All the examples of Valve-approved color correction in this video are nearly unnoticeable even in a direct comparison. It's a different story for games like Left 4 Dead, but TF2 maps don't really need color correction to look good. 2Fort looks fantastic even with the color correction turned off, so from a community mapper's perspective, is it worth it to spend an hour or two on this? I've been Source mapping for years and I've only felt the need to color correct on rare occasions.
In TF2 art style the environments are not supposed to reach full color saturation. This is reserved for characters and VFX so that they stand out better.
I recently learned about color correction when I was making a solely artistic map, and I have to say, it helps so much to change the look of a map without using any image editing tools! I also love that it is edited in-game, so you can see your changes in action, great video!
Source 2 has color correction volumes that all effects separate parts of the map which is huge for developers who want multiple unique types of environments in a single map file.
color correction is used EVERYWHERE in video games but i think that valve handles it the best, mostly because they do it in a subtle way that doesn't have their levels look like either mexico from breaking bad or generic blue movie color grading
I know I’m a few days late and it’s such a small detail but I LOVE how you added subtitles! It helps if I want to watch without audio or if I just can’t make out anything (my hearing sucks). Cheers!
Look at the bloom of the fire on the right. It’s brighter. It’s more obvious when you’re actually playing in the map. The colors will appear more saturated
You're good at making me intersted in something barely noticeable. I mean it's literally just a thing that makes it ever so slightly darker. It still looks the same.
I always wondered what the Color Correction setting does in tf2, next thing I am wondering is the recent patch note that states that the saturation has been increased because I see no difference... Who ever did that, they kinda did nothing...
Valve should seriously update the lighting on 5 of the very first maps of the game which are 2Fort, Gravel Pit, CP_Well, Granary, and Hydro. The lighting on these maps got messed up after many updates due to them using an outdated lighting system. These issues are shown in youtuber Crowbcat's "tf2 2007 and now" video.
Pretty sure you can just do ent_create color_correction with sv_cheats 1 to spawn a color correction entity and then use the colorcorrectionui, why this wont be a permanent solution it will let you edit and create color correction raw files in any map
color correction is very important in Portal aswell. Without it, the maps look really gray instead of the iconic blueish white that were used to. Its really good when done well and there is an advanced graphics setting toggle for it
Currently at the histogram section and, as a photographer, this is actually super valuable information as one of the few things i've never been taught or researched is how to manipulate the histogram. i know that fiddling with the arrows does stuff but I never actually knew *what* it was doing, and i knew that you mostly want an upside down u shape for most photos with no major peaks. also, what causes the peak in the white on the graph? i've seen that in several photos i've taken but i'm not really sure what causes it. is it just a single patch of actual white, like paper or clouds?
this is actually interesting for making tf2 video edits (frag videos, jump videos) because with this you could do heavy colour grading even before recording (if you use lawena etc). god damn. i wish i had the time to do tf2 edits again, this opens up a whole new world to me :D would probably require to add a colour correction entity to most maps though
the most unique usage of color correction in a map i've seen would be cs_noir as the creator uses it to cleverly portray a 1920s district with black and white visuals
I agree with neon. I think people are mistaken when they say that TF2 would look bad in Unity or Unreal Engine because those graphics engines are typically associated with realistic games. But the truth is that they are also used in a bunch of indie/cartoony low-poly games as well and can look amazing when dialed in.
You can color correct in a variety of ways to emphasize certain areas. You can't just change the colors to whatever, since you're limited to only a few tools.
So THIS is how some mappers make places much brighter than they are with as few lights as possible. I struggled immensely at the start of my mapping because the lighting always looks too bright or too dark and I though it has something to do with the HDR lighting. I almost wished I could just "brighten the face itself". Thank you for this tutorial!
I knew something was missing when I was playing the game, colors do really change a lot on the atmosphere and mood. I personally do like higher saturation like at 6:31 because it feels more alive, might burn my eyes after a few hours but I still will like it anyways
But what about the, *"Enable Color Correction"* setting? Is that a standard color correction that gets applied across all of TF2? Or does it just enable/disable a map's local color correction?
omg i used to put the Lookup table on photoshop to cahnge these, i never knew there was an ingame tool for viewing and changing it; Now im wondering what other tools i missed that i could use to speed up mapping
"If you wanna play around with colors all you have to do is change the channel from RGB to red green or blue and everything ive just explained will apply to theese, too." That rhymes really well edit: 4:27
I don't think you've edited anything beyond text in your life. The entire topic of this video revolves around one of THE most basic utilities in editing
@@bottlebeard this one is pretty basic, but i dont think therr are many non source games that have this. Its also obscure and not really used, so my point stands. But like you can build cubemaps, generate and edit nav meshes in-game, use console command to press a button on a destruction pda that you cant otherwise, set camera to orthographic mode, etc.
There's an old community-made map, CP Broma, that uses a trigger entity that enables color correction ONLY when you're fighting around the capture area. I'm not sure how the map-maker got the idea, but it gives a cinematic feel to those fights, and it's super cool
That's astounding
scout that laughs at white wall
Most mentally sane 10000+ hours scout main
Scout Laughing At 2Fort Sink.
most sane scout main
scout who laughs at lights/white001.vmt
Come here cupcake
I had no clue TF2 had color correcting built into the developer console, I thought it was only used during the initial creation of the maps. Very cool!
me too, I just cant find the command plz what is it
I knew about the fog and navmesh editors, but this one was new to me too! Wish I knew about it sooner.
@@misterpexon its in the video when he adds the entity
you can use many color correction entities for every area and the game will swtich between them depending on the radius of the entity
Are the different settings blended between, or is it a sudden shift from one configuration to another?
@@oktayyildirim2911 i doubt its blended, but a simple fix is to put one middle man-color correction inbetween 2 different ones,it wont be perfect and probably hidden with geometry but it does the job
@@theultimatetrashman887 @oktayyildirim2911 they do get blended ! its p cool
@@oktayyildirim2911 The amount of time it takes to fade between two color corrections is adjustable. It can be instant, it can take 1 second, it can take 100 seconds. It's all up to the mapper.
@@QuintessentialWalrus Sick!
Map makers, please be gentle. I already have enough trouble figuring out what team a demo-man is on when I'm in dark areas.
ayo?
someone more racist than me
talking about tf2 maps is so underrated and it should be talked about more
that's why i love this channel
💙 💚 ❤️
@@LEDs Bubbles, Buttercup, and Blossom
@@thefairylovesniperwhat
@@SageGilbert191 powerpuff girls
@@microman502 o
Actually crazy that the source engine has full on color grading tools. This is a part of the engine i never even knew existed.
Now combined with sfm's animation and shot editing, could the color grading, and maybe finding a way to add compositing and layers, make a Source Video Editor?
There is text that you can add in SFM at certain times (not too sure about changing fonts tho), so I guess it could be treated as such...
"This is LED. Switching off."
Such a hard line
Sounds like code language for some agent movie. Reminds me of "Bravo Six. Going dark."
0:32 the flametrower is walking?
Terrifying
i didn't even notice first time watching. xd
i notice that happening mostly on vphysics servers that have been running for several hours at a time
Lol that looked cartoonish
"where my flamethrower, it coudnt have just walk away"
the flamethrower in question:
As a mapper, I'm surprised you're so confused about why color correction isn't more common in TF2. The answer is simple: too much color correction will make it hard to distinguish teams, and too little color correction is a waste of time for most people. All the examples of Valve-approved color correction in this video are nearly unnoticeable even in a direct comparison. It's a different story for games like Left 4 Dead, but TF2 maps don't really need color correction to look good. 2Fort looks fantastic even with the color correction turned off, so from a community mapper's perspective, is it worth it to spend an hour or two on this? I've been Source mapping for years and I've only felt the need to color correct on rare occasions.
0:31 where is bro's flamethrower skedaddling off to?
Probably saw a cute phlog and walked over to take his shot
It spawned inside the floor and the physics engine gave up
In TF2 art style the environments are not supposed to reach full color saturation. This is reserved for characters and VFX so that they stand out better.
I recently learned about color correction when I was making a solely artistic map, and I have to say, it helps so much to change the look of a map without using any image editing tools! I also love that it is edited in-game, so you can see your changes in action, great video!
Thanks!
Source 2 has color correction volumes that all effects separate parts of the map which is huge for developers who want multiple unique types of environments in a single map file.
Source 1 has the exact same feature lol. Unfortunately it wasn't added until Left 4 Dead so TF2 doesn't have it IIRC
Also known as a LUT and is commonly used in games.
color correction is used EVERYWHERE in video games but i think that valve handles it the best, mostly because they do it in a subtle way that doesn't have their levels look like either mexico from breaking bad or generic blue movie color grading
I know I’m a few days late and it’s such a small detail but I LOVE how you added subtitles! It helps if I want to watch without audio or if I just can’t make out anything (my hearing sucks). Cheers!
🥹
Saying "there's clearly a difference" at 0:12 made me bust a gut laughing and I'm not sure if that was intentional
Look at the bloom of the fire on the right. It’s brighter. It’s more obvious when you’re actually playing in the map. The colors will appear more saturated
You're good at making me intersted in something barely noticeable.
I mean it's literally just a thing that makes it ever so slightly darker. It still looks the same.
Personal preference. Some people don’t mind decreasing their graphics quality, for example.
Bro spent 8 minutes explaining precisely why it's NOT just making it "ever so slightly darker" and you still said it does.
@@pokealong Because that's how Valve uses it? I don't understand why I have to explain what I mean to people. It's obvious already.
It actually makes it brighter in the case of 2Fort
I always wondered what the Color Correction setting does in tf2, next thing I am wondering is the recent patch note that states that the saturation has been increased because I see no difference... Who ever did that, they kinda did nothing...
I was today years old when I figured out, LED's youtube profile is litterally the Color.Correct tool
cp_emesis should use color correction to give that cinematic style effect
Valve should seriously update the lighting on 5 of the very first maps of the game which are 2Fort, Gravel Pit, CP_Well, Granary, and Hydro. The lighting on these maps got messed up after many updates due to them using an outdated lighting system. These issues are shown in youtuber Crowbcat's "tf2 2007 and now" video.
0:32 nah bro's weapon walked away 💀💀💀
“Aight imma head out”
Pretty sure you can just do ent_create color_correction with sv_cheats 1 to spawn a color correction entity and then use the colorcorrectionui, why this wont be a permanent solution it will let you edit and create color correction raw files in any map
Oh, really? I didn’t know you could do that!
Today I learned I'm colorblind
holy shit the end montage of the color corrected version looks sooo good I need to know what settings you used
tf2 players when they figure out what lightning is
Tf2's GENIUS hidden feature: How color correction makes tf2 the best game in gaming history
This is a post-processing filter. Nothing to do with lighting.
tf2 players when they get struck by lightning
color correction is very important in Portal aswell. Without it, the maps look really gray instead of the iconic blueish white that were used to. Its really good when done well and there is an advanced graphics setting toggle for it
Please more hammer content! I started mapping a few months ago and would love tips and tricks!
Sure thing 👍
@@LEDs yippie
Currently at the histogram section and, as a photographer, this is actually super valuable information as one of the few things i've never been taught or researched is how to manipulate the histogram. i know that fiddling with the arrows does stuff but I never actually knew *what* it was doing, and i knew that you mostly want an upside down u shape for most photos with no major peaks.
also, what causes the peak in the white on the graph? i've seen that in several photos i've taken but i'm not really sure what causes it. is it just a single patch of actual white, like paper or clouds?
It was probably the clouds
@@LEDs that's what i figured, thanks!
In the case of the fire at the start, I reckon the current exposure value (in HDR rendering) also has a large part in the discrepancy
Very well could be
I always forget to really utilize this in my maps, super useful for really giving it that extra bit of detail!
this is actually interesting for making tf2 video edits (frag videos, jump videos) because with this you could do heavy colour grading even before recording (if you use lawena etc). god damn. i wish i had the time to do tf2 edits again, this opens up a whole new world to me :D would probably require to add a colour correction entity to most maps though
This man is in the hamer editor, pleas break him free
the most unique usage of color correction in a map i've seen would be cs_noir as the creator uses it to cleverly portray a 1920s district with black and white visuals
There's a new map on the workshop called Infestation that uses color correction too!
“2Fort Is Actually Brighter Than Normal”
2Fort Was So Bright, They *NEEDED* To Dim It.
i was always aware of it but didnt' know how it worked or what it was for.
I wonder what TF2 on Unreal Engine 5 would look like.
there is a video on it!
it would look like straight ass because tf2 fans don't understand the tf2 art direction even if they think they do lol
Well it can look good, but need a lot of work to make it not worse than Source version.
I agree with neon. I think people are mistaken when they say that TF2 would look bad in Unity or Unreal Engine because those graphics engines are typically associated with realistic games. But the truth is that they are also used in a bunch of indie/cartoony low-poly games as well and can look amazing when dialed in.
@@randomcatdudedude noone understands it nowadays, not even valve
some times 2fort looks really good, then just normal 2fort
"the difference is huge"
me not seeing the difference that much:
It could be RUclips compression, but in the fire example, the burning flames on Steel emit a brighter glow
Wow, this is such a big yet small issue, it really brings out the beauty of the game when correcting the colours.
Yeah, I believe every map can benefit from color correction at least a little bit, even if it’s subtle and there’s only one setting for the entire map
Somebody is going to have major fun with this
So you can make a map any color you want with just a few settings? Cool!
You can color correct in a variety of ways to emphasize certain areas. You can't just change the colors to whatever, since you're limited to only a few tools.
@@LEDs Yeah, it would be cool if there was a setting that individually changes the color of each thing.
6:45 So I can turn 2Fort into Morioh... nice
I barely know what he's talking about but im still very interested in it.
(P.S: Nice Editing)
Thank you!
4:35 ctf_2fort was IN THE MATRIX ALL ALONG!??!?
So THIS is how some mappers make places much brighter than they are with as few lights as possible. I struggled immensely at the start of my mapping because the lighting always looks too bright or too dark and I though it has something to do with the HDR lighting. I almost wished I could just "brighten the face itself".
Thank you for this tutorial!
That seems interesting!
I knew something was missing when I was playing the game, colors do really change a lot on the atmosphere and mood. I personally do like higher saturation like at 6:31 because it feels more alive, might burn my eyes after a few hours but I still will like it anyways
Yeah, color correction can really make a map pop
0:38 me seeing a new Adam Sandler movie
Ey I remember using this function back in the day when I used SFM daily
It's a great function! And maybe even used in some sfm movies *whink whink
0:11 The only difference I see is that on the right he's in a shadow so he's a bit darker
Look at the glow around his feet, that’s easier to notice
Yeah you can do that in Shrek 2 too.
Is called Ambient Light.
But it's actually color correction doe.
This is actually a decent hammer editor guide
Thank you!
Its insane to me how intricate the in engine UI is for this tool that seems to never get used in an official capacity by Valve
"Let's first talk about color. Despite only making up 13% of the population.." xd
Oh man…
7:00 "Why are the 2fort green?"
But what about the,
*"Enable Color Correction"*
setting?
Is that a standard color correction that gets applied across all of TF2?
Or does it just enable/disable a map's local color correction?
It seems to only affect the local color correction, yes. The setting has no effect on most maps, on 2Fort it's very noticeable
I think a cs map called noir use this to create a black and white color correction
ofc someone with THAT pfp would make this video
omg i used to put the Lookup table on photoshop to cahnge these, i never knew there was an ingame tool for viewing and changing it; Now im wondering what other tools i missed that i could use to speed up mapping
Any way to have multiple area-based color correction settings on a single map?
I believe so. I might make a video on it
you can now put on the mexico filter
Yes algorithm I would like to watch a 8 minute video on maps a game 2 years younger than me
I wonder if you can trigger a change in color correction values for individual players upon entering or exiting an area.
🤫
because i don't know how to use this thing
"If you wanna play around with colors all you have to do is change the channel from RGB to red green or blue and everything ive just explained will apply to theese, too." That rhymes really well
edit: 4:27
Time to make a noir map with little saturation and high contrast
So now you have to rename your channel to color correct
🥸
the light_env icon kinda rubs me the wrong way
Mayhaps the warm smile and encouraging thumbs-up of *OBSOLETE* will soothe your worries?
is it possible to make a map black and white? i feel like and old styled map with a gimmick like that would be fun lol
mat_hsv 1
Pretty sure
TF2 is like PowerPoint. It had so much obscure built in features and tools that no one will use, and its a spaghetti mess, but it works
Well said
I don't think you've edited anything beyond text in your life. The entire topic of this video revolves around one of THE most basic utilities in editing
@@bottlebeard this one is pretty basic, but i dont think therr are many non source games that have this. Its also obscure and not really used, so my point stands. But like you can build cubemaps, generate and edit nav meshes in-game, use console command to press a button on a destruction pda that you cant otherwise, set camera to orthographic mode, etc.
Now what I wonder is if this is in Source FilmMaker
Finally, I can make GreenFortress2
I thought it was my old laptop just having some performance stuff to not overload with effects
and consecuently, shutting down
Heavy on right hadn't had his sanvich yet
Me, a colorblind person trying to differentiate the two-
Very cool video
light_env is staring into my soul
*0:39** most sane TF2 player*
ill have to play with that
Remember me when you get over 100k subs
Screenshotted, if that ever happens imma find you
Cranking this shit up on wuttville gonna burn people’s eyes
why does the icon for light_env look like that
LOL
oh, so thats what color correction is. does this impact frames at all? it seems odd that it would do. should it be an option to turn off?
No, it doesn’t affect frames
@@LEDs why would someone want to turn it off?
Config makers claim it affects FPS, a lot of them recommend turning it off. It's a setting in the options menu
I like your funny words, magic man 👍
SHADER MAGIC
okey, i will use this on my map
Could you color correct different maps and show how much it could affect gameolay or, fix some "ugly" oarts?
Yeah, I think a video where I remodel certain (ugly) parts of maps where I incorporate this would be cool
Nice
deep-fried 2fort
bros been building his name just to post this vid, gj
I didn't know TF2 had color correction.
Ah yes
The fire looks the same?
Source stuff always makes me feel dum
Does this apply to other source games like CSGO?
Yes
Can't wait to see more joke maps with cursed colours.
Is this related to the Pyrovision goggles?
No
Wasn't 2fort bright in the trailer
Yeah, TF2’s lighting used to be different