I tried RISKY Kickoff Strategies in Ranked
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2022
- Kickoffs are so much more boring in Rocket League than they need to be. So I put a twist on them to make them more interesting. I tried new risky kickoff strategies in ranked Rocket League.
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Rocket League Kickoffs are one of the most important aspects of the game. It determines who gets play to play offense first which is often a big difference maker in a game's outcome. Right now, everyone in the player base uses the same kickoff strategy in Rocket League. Today, I experimented with some friends to see if we could come up with any strategies that worked better or perfectly countered that standard strategy that everyone uses right now. It was a lot of fun and we actually walked away with something that we'll probably end up using in future ranked games. New Rocket League kickoff strategies are a lot of fun to try out even if they aren't successful.
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Thanks for watching!! Have a great day :D
Thanks for the content amigo. 👍🏼
No u
u stole the 3 rd start of jzr an mk they have been doing this for over 2 years
@@DeadInsideDave ahh jzr and crew. The true visionaries of RL! Love watching them try their plays in his videos. I'm surprised Wayton didn't realize that was a JZR strat tbh.
@@DeadInsideDave I know the one you’re talking about but that is definitely different. That one is not a pinch and it requires the opponent to be very slow on the kickoff.
I showcased the one you’re talking about in this video: ruclips.net/video/cqHvf7yC3tg/видео.html
Honestly, I don't think the first kickoff is an abject failure. Yeah, the other team will read the first one after you do it once or twice. But a 1-2 goal advantage can win you the game. Just don't push it. Mix up your kickoffs instead of using it every single time.
I think if you switch between standard, spanish , the first 1 and the last one of this vid, you are creating some really anxious opponents. Which is big plus.
@@joeykoch5664 yeah, for sure. The same way 1s mains usually have a whole arsenal of kickoff strats to trip up their opponents. Confusion leads to goals.
@@joeykoch5664 "spanish" 🤮
I think I’m probably being stupid here but for the first one does it not almost completely eliminate the risk if it’s the kickoff with 2 players diagonal? If one player half flips onto the boost and goes instantly back to net it’s pretty much impossible to concede if done effectively, joreuz uses this in 1v1 a lot. Doesn’t this mean that it eliminates the chance of conceding directly and gives boost control?
@@nanterzn go home kid you’re probably a vitality fan
My friends and I came up with the "triple back" strategy where we all sit on our side of the field and counter attack the kick off. Works great in Silver.
@@Fire_3x1t his sarcasm went skies above your head 🤭
@@Fire_3x1t the initial reply was a joke.. you take this game way too seriously. 🤣
@@Fire_3x1t I mean, do it. The way you wrote the comment I thought you just didn’t understand. And why try to insult me, im higher rank than you
@@Fire_3x1t 🤡🤡🤡🤡
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Damn right!
Uploading this right before the London LAN event… this should be fun
I’ll be jumping in my chair if they actually do one of these
imagine lmao
@@WaytonPilkin BDS and endpoint watching this video rn taking notes
@@danielmullane5387 they dont need it, but they'll probably bcs they are extremely focused on any points to beat the opponent to the kick off 'til the end
@@WaytonPilkin they won’t prob cause it’s 1 day diff and bds got destroyed my team secret ;-;
I'd say you undersold the first one. It is a decent one to use only once. Nothing to replace the current kickoff but a benefit to changing things up
I mean yeah. A one goal advantage can win the game for you.
Yeah definitely seems like a super solid change up to throw in
And it is a different setup then that last one so you could use both in a game!
Yeah it's a variation of a fake kickoff. You never use the fake kickoff over and over so you wouldn't use this one. But it is a good one.
True. Might be worth using once a game but nothing more.
I find it funny how Johnnyboi was digging on BDS and Endpoint for having terrible and basic kickoffs, and actually encourages teams to try kickoffs like this to gain an advantage
Not terrible and basic but too risky
He was saying they were too risky, since they were sending all 3 players up
Johnny wasn't encouraging kickoffs this stupid. He had much better explanations of where people should go and why those were potentially good choices.
2 of these kickoffs rely on awkward 50s which throw possession out the window and the first one had nobody on net for the direct boom. Yeah that's exactly the message johnny was promoting....
Wayton didn't study the ramifications of these plays before trying them out. Johnny does it for a living.
Wayton should realize he's a RUclipsr that caters more to aspiring noobs and not a Pro play commentator that actually has a brain.
@@TheFraze101 Stop riding Johnny 💀 pretty sure everyone knows sending three people up on kickoff is risky.
@@TheFraze101 he literally titled the video with RISKY in all caps...he's not saying these will be in the next rlcs. he's just saying you can change it up in ranked and have a little bit of fun
I invented this kickoff that I try occasionally. I call it, “the speed fake”. It’s where I pretend I can speed flip, and ultimately drive straight past the ball. Works great!
I do it all the time! Even when I'm trying to hit the ball…
I do a variation on this lately. I play KBM and my q key started failing recently... I use both Q and E depending on which diagonal I'm coming from. So when Q doesn't fire, I usually end up correcting in such a way that my back side blocks the ball - surprisingly that often ends up advantageous for out team. New keyboard is on the way this week...
I have a "sped flip"
it was originally a joke between a friend and I, because while learning speed flips, I would speed flip, land wrong, and fall short of the ball.
Now in high diamond and low champ, its crazy how sped flipping, landing short, while the other team speed flips and hits it right into me, its a very effective kickoff.
Prob only works in 2s though, because 1s it is dumb and risky (nobody back just in case) and in 3s there's just too much going on. I love it because its only ever one in 25 kickoffs that the ball goes into our side of the field in a bad position. Usually, it goes right into tm8 who went for boost, I win it or it goes to the side slightly towards our side so tm8 can get it.
It's most effective on side kickoffs, but it works still, just less.
to do it is simple. Do a speed flip, but instead of flipping into the ball a second time, slam on the breaks. Aim the car slightly towards wherever your tm8 is and then jump while using air roll, but just a little bit. Use air roll for as long as you press X (or A/space) then flip into it after the other team hits the ball. Its almost like a re-direct. Usually, it goes to the wall on the side, slightly back. I call it the Sped Flip.
@@JacobRise1492 haha nice. I haven't come up with a name for mine, but it sounds loosely similar, though I don't really brake per se. I do stream with overlay though so anyone who's recently seen me play has seen this in action.
ppl do that on accident all the time lol works great but u have to conserve boost and know what ur doing
This gave me vibes of the Endpoint Vs BDS Lower bracket finals where at least 7 of the 9 goals were on horrible kickoffs.
exactly what I was thinking lulullul
This definitely is true for most mindless grinding and solo queuing since you can't coordinate it well, but you'd be crazy to think pros do not have playbooks of kick off strats and are constantly trying to counter and play RPS on kickoffs. We just need to step up our game and have more names for these things now that we have in game VC
I'd say strategy 1 and 3 have great value to be used every now and then. it increases the number of unexpected playstyles. it would be a solif strategy used by teams.
it's like with how volleyball players signal their teammates what kind of serve strategy they should apply.
that amazing formation at 4:59, followed by this comment 5:12 just a couple of seconds later, and I almost choked on my food LOL
glad im not the only one who heard it
I was waiting for a comment abt the formation😂😂😂😂
I wouldn't consider the other kickoffs a "failure" u don't need to use them all the time but can be a powerfull surprise and alternative once in a while, like that u can mix up kickoffs and it becomes more unpredictable for the opponent
3:54 WOLFII: "Never did I ever think that I would get clipped on by Wayton."
Wayton: "LEETTSS GOOOO!!"
Wayton thanks for making this content I enjoy every video you make, keep it up!
This was amazing! So glad to see awesome new kickoff strats, I hope to see more of this in the future. Awesome work from one of my fav RUclipsrs!!!!
I've been doing that last strategy for a while now, whenever I'm in either diagonal position, I boost straight for the ball but then swerve a bit to my side of it. It works sometimes. And when it doesn't work, most of the time it still turns out ok. You don't even really need comms when random queueing - if the other diagonal goes for it, I do the swerve. If they don't, I just do the regular kickoff instead.
yeah same here, if both go on kickoff becouse noone quickchat "i got it" i just go for strategy 3 and it results in some goals now and then. Better than doing nothing/full double commit on kickoff if you both already went
Seems like the mixup now and again could be valuable, especially when the kickoffs become routine. Trying late in game/series could catch the other team off guard and spice things up. I like this idea for sure.
5:12 has me in tears oh my lord
5:15, oh he put it into me🤣🤣 but seriously great mind
this is something that i never thought about, yet i LOVE it, awesome videos as per usual, your videos never dissapoint.
appreciate you and your vids wayton
Really great video! Keep that good content, I really enjoyed the video
Cool vid Wayton I’ll give you kickoffs a try!👍🏻🤜🏻
"Everyone in the Rocket League player base uses the same kickoff."
My plat teamates:
"Must.... touch..... BALL!!!!"
5:11 “oh he put it into me” 😂
5:11 "oh he put it into me"
wayton 2022
5:11 OH HE PUT IT INTO ME
yeah... nice choice of words wayton...
Great vid man!
Love this!
I think if you vary your kickoff strategies throughout the game, you're less likely to have the result you found with strategy #1. It can be a weakness *if* your opponent figures out what you're doing, but that only happens if you keep doing it. If you mix strategy #1, #3, and the standard kickoff throughout the game, it's a bit risky to simply shoot the ball straight at your goal.
The reason why the standard kickoff became standard is because when properly executed, it's just a mid-field 50/50 every time. It has neither advantages nor disadvantages, but that doesn't mean that it should be the default kickoff for every kickoff, although maybe it's good to default to it if you're winning the game and don't need additional goals, simply because there's little chance of it going poorly (unless of course, your opponent tries something unexpected...).
amazing video I might just use this in my rank games with my friends😉
wayton you are the BEST
I love this type of video
The third kickoff strat reminded me of a demo kickoff i used to do with some other demo buddies. You both go and demo the person on kickoff, and then the person cheating up (if anyone is cheating) and then YOUR third man goes and shoots the ball which should be left untouched if the kickoff is done correctly. Theres also a second one involving a pinch like in the video, where both team mates pinch the ball into the net off a speedflip.
Dude this is just amazing 1 and 3 are really good
4:59 Ahh yes, the classic Cawknbawls Formation, very hard to pull off, but can be explosive if done correctly.
Great video. I thought all those kickoffs have value using them sometimes. JohnnyBoi recently dropped a video with new kickoff strategies, at first I thought you were gonna try those. Be cool to see a sequel to this video with the kickoff stats he talked about a couple weeks ago.
Whenever I have kickoff, I usually go for a standard setup, but slow down slightly and side-flip towards my half instead of flipping towards the ball so I can direct the ball into my team's back corner and right to a teammate. Usually the ball ends up rolling at a medium-to-high speed, easy to control. Gives my team possession right off the bat. Has worked out quite a bit in Champ, especially in 2s.
Nice video keep the work up
wayton's analytical intelligence is incredible
I've been waiting all morning for your upload to submit an idea that I've not seen anyone really talk about that I think either goes over looked or is straight up left out from most content creators. That being "micro mechanics" or "small-ball moves". Things like recoveries off the wall when you're low on boost and are close to the ground. Getting ball touches from the corners when you're either on defense or offense. Just training all the little things you do with your car and the ball that aren't dribbles, flicks, or power shots. Idk if this makes sense or not but I'm in C1and since I've begun focusing on these little movements/touches, I've seen a massive improvement in my overall control but I'm struggling to articulate exactly it all entails. I think you're the perfect dude for this concept and I'd love to know your thoughts!
im replying so he sees it
@@nolangilbert337 Thanks man, me too! I'd also like to add that I think this concept should also include what you should be doing between hits as well. How to make a touch that sets up for the next and how to apply that to overall control.
I occasionally do a musty kickoff in 1v1 when I'm spawned in front of the goal. it ends up acting as a delay and if you do it right you pretty much block the entire front of the ball - quite often ending up with a kickoff win for you.
I can't remember ever conceding a goal doing it , at worst having lost possession. Pretty cool how creative you can be with kickoffs!
The last one my new straight lol thanks for trying to make the game more fun
Amazing video
I love Videos like this
5:11 out of context be wilding
If you're looking for this trend of exploring new strategies for different aspects of gameplay, I would love to see a video trying out new rotations. I know this concept overall has been done before, but I've had the idea for a rotation where you have 1 permanent goalie and 2 permanent aggressive strikers. The players on offense try to keep control and play fast, without worrying too much about a breakaway, while the goalie remains back with full boost to save any incoming shots.
Obviously there's tons more potential for stuff like this, but I just wanted to mention that particular idea since I haven't seen it tried yet.
Your example is called bronze to gold rank.
@@TheFraze101 The only gets modified in plat and diamond and champ to have the 3rd man sit at midfield instead of in net
@@cmdrfunk yeah that sounds pretty accurate !
@@cmdrfunk And only because the other 2 won't ever rotate out
that last one is very similar to one me and an old teammate used. we called it pink pirate based on they first guy we saw use it(on reddit in like 2016). it stopped working as well when speed flips came around because it relied on beating the other team to the ball completely and the other guy side flipping perfectly. it also worked best in 2s
First off great exploration of kick offs. It's great to see these things get that love.
I don't think any of these kicks off are actually failures.
Kick Off 1: Creates unpredictabity. You utilize it, which forces them to have to switch to trying to centralize the kick off, in which case you can adapt the traditional kick off to force them into awkward situations from the get go... just when they think youve gone back, you then hit them again.
Kick Off 2: Creates a unique positioning advantage that allows you to play either a defensive set if you lose possession, or gives you positioning for a counterattack directly on the kick off. Plus, you can force predictability here in higher level and potentially pro lobbies, where the kick offs are typically much more consistant in contact.
Kick Off 3: Well... video explains itself why its successful XD...
The overall takeaway here is that, variety and unpredictability in a kick off strat are legit. That's why, though not used often, fakes, spanish kick offs, etc. can be effective. Because they create that unpredicability... even if its short term... which at times can be enough to win you the game!
hey wayton, when are you going live on twitch? great video btw :)
I actually do the 3rd kickoff sometimes when I know my teammate can do a fast kick off. I position myself and dodge into where the ball will be and have sometimes scored this way. It's rare though.
3:46 , The BEST redirect I’ve seen (excluding pro league)
The first kick-off is definitely a good one to use. Think of it as a fake kick-off, use it only once or twice to switch things up.
I came up with the 3rd strat for me and my buddy years ago. We got it to the point where if the right side does a speed flip kickoff purposefully sending it left (opponent doesn't touch) and left preflipped sideways, it was basically in within a second at 130+kph every time. It's amazing if you can beat the opponent to it from the right, as they no longer have an impact on the control.
I know this is true because almost no rocket league player has the brain power to make this up but the ones that can make this up wouldnt say 130 kph but would say like 120 kph or something
Wayton:"He put in into me"
Me: p a u s e
I like the idea. I wanted to try this in solo q but that just made them toxic 😅😄
(also at 5:00 i thought you gonna finnish the drawing funny 😄)
great video and really nice strats bro ur giga brain
YES!!!, LET'S GOoo!!1!
5.00 lol, funny shape you've drawn there @wayton
Nah 😭
Bro you deserve a like for this vid
Respect for doing this in ranked
We need Johnny and Wayton to discuss. Johnny is the main advocator for pro players changing their kickoffs.
top quality content
We need to get wayton to 1million
5:11 is the best part xD
“Oh he put it into me” - Wayton Pilkin 2022
Just because the standard kickoff truly is best doesn't mean sneaking in the pinch is not useful, the fact that it is unexpected makes it so good
My friends accidentally have done strategy #3. Our teammate has a very fast kickoff. So by the time the second delayed player gets to the center they just have to be in the right spot to shoot the ball at the goal. We do it in whatever position he is sitting in whether it's left or right. Thanks for the confirmation video. That's real cool.
In strat 2 since left one goes, when im right side i speed flip and hit the ball to corner, and left one goes for middle and enemy corner boost and sometimes gets the chance for an open redirect
Once you demonstrated the second kickoff to your friends, i found a weakness you soon realized after using this strategy for multiple attempts. Its unpredictable to tell which direction the ball is heading once the enemy hits it. I have thought of a solution in which you jump to at least deflect the ball to the enemy side. However, this kickoff isn’t a great alternative since the opponent will counter it after one or two kickoffs. I would recommend you to switch between kickoffs to confuse your enemy.
I hope this is useful!
With strategy 2 I think I’d be better if the person on the left would grab mid boost, this gives boost control and you have 1 player upfield with boost and 1 person backfield with boost. This will (hopefully) lead to insanely aggressive kickoffs.
You can even let the person staying behind go for the back left boost, this way, if the ball goes back right, you have someone with full boost back post and it allows the person going for kickoff to grab the back right boost.
Less go new vid
5:12 THATS WHAT SHE SAID
There’s a much easier version of the 2nd kickoff that works for all diagonal kickoffs to set the ball to the back corner boost of the person going to the kickoff. Just do a single wave dash kickoff and aim to the inside of the ball and you always get the 50/50 to the corner boost
Strategy 3 is what my friend group calls the Hard Funny
Yay we we're in the video :D
ggs, keep up the content!
3:02 ayoooooo
“Oh he put it into me” Wayton 2022
the 3rd kickoff JZR used to use that all the time in his "moi moments" clips except person 1 who goes for the ball does a speedflip to hit it to the side to his teammate just trying to beat the opponent to the ball
5:11 💀 same 😎
Bro. That first strategy was legit... For a surprise once a match thing. Give it a code name and call it somewhere in the middle of a match with teammates that know what's going on and it could be the surprise goal maker you need sometimes. Ha ha. And it was pretty obvious that last one could be used to. Even more than once a match possibly. Give it a code name too. Pretty soon you will have a whole playbook like real sports teams do. Ha ha!
hey wayton, are those displates behind you? if not, what brand are those posters from?
I feel like all these kickoffs could do well if you mix them in with each other as well as the basic kickoff
Yo can u do a tutorial on how to challenge when shadowing. I think that is something hard to learn for lower ranks
The first one is good to mix up kickoffs. The third one gives you a boost disadvantage and if you don’t score, gives possession away too
A refined strategy one could be pretty good; instead of the last guy back going for boost they stay on net and whichever post the enemy shoots at you take that posts corner boost
The skidmarkz have utilised the quick attack for awhile. Great strategy
This strat is gonna be used in this RLCS LAN !!!
I like it, its somewhat like chess openings :) It totally brings a new meta to rocket league!
Dude, you’re going to make a brilliant engineer one day lol
Tbh, 1 and 3 with the standard kickoff mixed together can be deadly in any rank loved the video thought
5:11 ayo wayton
Me and my team doesn't use the same as you started the video showcasing.
Ours is mainly the same aside from our last man closest to goal rotates into goal unless kickoff goes towards him so we always have a defender when things get tight
If the only judge to success is if you can score off a kickoff, then the default would also objectively be a failure. The delay is already a solid strat, just one you can't use every time, it's a sneaky sneak. And the first one, one I'd call the fake, is just as effective if you also don't over use it. Pull both of them out randomly and play mind games with the opposing team.
AFTER THIS IMA GET BACK IN TO RL thanks !!!
Me and my friend have a kick off in twos where if you have it to where a person in the back and person in front of them you dude in the back bumps person in front basically adding more speed and having a teammate to help instead of going alone
I actually do something similar to the 3rd kickoff sometimes when I’m on the right side. Didn’t realise it was anything special though.
Good job expirementing
"I Accidentily Scored It, My Bad...." 🤣
I did some MS Painting and the Delay Kickoff may slightly counter the Pinch Kickoff. Albeit there are no guarantees (of course), theoretically the pinching team would have two players at the ball with no momentum, while the delaying team would have more boost and be on a better positon for counter-attack.