Detroit: From Motown To Murder Town
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Death Of Detroit - USA. With General motors on the verge of collapse, Detroit is becoming more famous for it's murder rate rather than the motor industry or music.
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General Motors is clinging to survival with a little help from the US government and bankruptcy court. Yet many of GM's union members feel uneasy. Will GM use bankruptcy to shed union commitments?
'Get 10 people and ask them where they work, I guarantee that they'll say Ford, Chrysler, GM - that's why they call us Motor City' says Kenny, a former GM worker. The plant he worked at was once run by 3000 people, now it operates on a staff of 50. Cutbacks are seen everywhere. 'GM was covering health care for a million people' says Dave of the Centre for Automobile research. This gave GM a $2,000 competitive disadvantage. 'This legacy cost problem was going to wipe the company out' Dave explains. Members of the United Auto Workers, have cause for concern. 'We retired thinking that everything would be OK' says Randy. With the help of the US government, pensions are secured. But reductions in healthcare benefits are a devastating blow for Curtis, a former worker who was run over by a drunk driver in 2001. 'A new GM will emerge that can provide a new generation of Americans with a chance to live out their dreams' says President Obama, announcing the privatisation and bankruptcy claim of General Motors. For Randy this move is 'pushing us out'. These optimistic words will mean a cost of $50 billion to the taxpayer, 21,000 jobs lost and more cuts to union benefits.
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Poor old Detroit. I was born and raised in Hamilton, Ontario and a large amount of the steel we produced there went to the automotive industry in Michigan and the rest of North America. We, as a blue collar industrial city always looked on the situation in Detroit with empathy. I hope that better days come for Detroit. They've endured enough.
SuperSix Bravo Well said & totally true.
Things I've learned from this:
1. The city's sole reliance on the auto-industry was always a bad thing for their economy.
2. Lack of research and development on the products they are selling. Japan left them behind on fuel-efficiency, Germany and Italy left them behind on overall car performance, And the rest of the world left them behind on manufacturing cost. All of them contributed to the decline of their auto-industry,
3. Education not being prioritized enough like half of the citizens are illiterate.
4. Democrats suck
Thanks democrats
The problems in Detroit go way beyond GM.
the whole city depends upon one big company to survive ? its the biggest problem right there.
stop making so much sense.
I commute to Wayne State University in the heart of Detroit everyday. I see a lot of things- and I see a lot of depressed people. Sometimes it makes me very sad. But it's my home- it's been my home for 18 years. I love Detroit and most of you will never understand why. But if you've never been here, you have no right to slander my home. Instead of leaving the 'pile of garbage' that most of you think Detroit is to fester, why don't you try helping out? How about praying for us?
"Thats who gave me the opportunity to dress the way I like to dress, drive the cars I like to dress, wear the jewelery I like to wear."
This is really well made, good job.
I remember when I first came to Detroit I hate this city but as I got older I grew to love this city and I still love Detroit I just don't love what people do and say about the city. ...people just don't care about each other and they don't care about the city like they should....I hope things change soon I hope all the killing stop and love come back to the Motor City 💖💖💖💖💖💖
357 magnum Glock? lol
Glock only has a 357 sig. The guy on here said 357 magnum, but its a Glock. He doesn't even know what he has. Mossberg all the way!
357 Sig maybe? lol
"In the U.S. employers typically pay for they're employees Healthcare and Pension" Lol, wish I worked for one of those 'typical employers'
Welcome to the death of the (former) dominant paradigm, folks.
Another great documentary by Journeyman. Keep 'em coming!
Thu Phat, again, how do profits go UP for companies that need bailouts? What do you use to count with?
Just fyi the guys piece was a glock chambered in .357 SIG, not '.357 magnum' as idiot narrator said. You're not dirty harry.
+AssadNizam Relax nerd, not everyone is a gun expert.
+AssadNizam Relax nerd, not everyone is a gun expert.
Dirty Harry used a Smith and Wesson Model 29 chambered in a .44 Magnum, not a .357 Magnum. Just sayin'.
Do the sight shoot 357?.
American cars look good but are unreliable and lose their value fast. Japanese cars are boring but reliable, efficient and hold their value. So I heard what my head said and bought a toyota Camry, even though my heart desired a Cadillac CTS. I wish american cars are better built.
GMC = Gotta Mechanic Comin'
There re 2500 Mercedes on Craigs list Phoenix Better, guess so but at twice the cost.
Hahaha gay
Very good documentary
Thank you for mentioning the unions in your response. Decades ago, they repeatedly protested for more and more generous pensions despite the city losing hundreds of thousands of people. And no politician can get elected in Detroit without their backing, so they did whatever the unions wanted. It was a vicious cycle.
How sad. Good luck everyone in Detroit. God bless them
Thanks democrats
Robocop is returning. Maybe Alex Murphy can decrease the crime as he did in the 80's.
@TargetHFFH Very well said...I couldnt agree more...
@awm4151 well, depends on what youre looking for. I think midtown, downtown, new center in addition to the places u mentioned are all cool plus new upscale places along the river. Royal Oak has always been virbant, and Ferndale is following suit. What I like the most is the variety of places to go at night and events happening on the weekends. nothing is over commercialized overpriced or cookie cutter.
What if you bought the LAND RIGHTS and all the buildings on a city block in detroit? Could you turn that into farmland or would the soil be unable to sustain it?
don,t blame the g m company blame the dam unions strike strike and the riots in the 60,s and 70,s
@order9066 Thank you. Towards the end I was going to guess Canada but I figured someone would know for sure. Thanks again.
Anyone know where 09:02 is? I can't figure out through Google Earth where it is.
over inflated corporate salaries are to blame not the unions. Giving their management 6 and 7 figure salaries, and bonuses is shameful when you have to take away a loyal employee's dental care away. Corporate greed is what busted the auto industry to unions.
Dave Cole talking out his a$$. Those workers paid into those pension plans, be it with lower wages or GM taking a portion of their wages. Until idiots like this realize, that middle to upper management to the CEO, are the reason these companies are failing, things will never change. But i would expect a response like that from him because he's fighting his own corner. CEO pay is up an astounding 725%. The average CEO used to be paid about 65 times the average worker, now it's 273 times the average worker. They get this even though the businesses they are running are failing. Rewarded for failure with bonuses etc and they wonder why things are going wrong.
Bullshit! Workers never contributed one penny to those pensions. They were 100% funded by GM.
Checkm8king2
Worker's built those cars. They earned those pensions. Who are you to say they didn't. Worker productivity in the US has gone up decade on decade since the 70's, yet inflation has out paced their pay rises. They are earning less than they did in the 70's when adjusted for inflation. On the other hand CEO's pay has gone up an astounding 273 times more. Debate me on those issues.
Simple. Look at your paystub. Where does it say "contribution to pension".
Checkm8king2
First off, i'm self employed. It was part of their agreement with GM. It does not matter if they paid into it or not, which my guess is that most probably did. So if i make a work agreement with you and i go back on that agreement then its ok with you? Nah didn't think so.
@awm4151 I lived there all through highschool and college both in Hamtramck and Detroit neighborghoods and never encountered places like the ones shown in the video unless I went looking for them. Yes, they do exist and theyre not small, but I enjoyed the good parts of the city none of which are shown. After traveling everywhere in the country I realized that the city actually had more interesting experiences to offer than many other places in the US considered far superior.
I am young (late twenties)but not naïve. I realize a companies number 1 priority is profit, or in the case of a non-profit, efficiency. I've worked for a large faceless sort of organization and I've also worked for a smaller company where they are loyal to employees that have worked there for 30 years but even then I know the main interest of the business is to remain in business. I believe a strong work ethic and willingness to adapt ensures you will be an important tool in the company shed.
50 billion dollars aint shit compared to a 800 billion dollar BANK BAILOUT!
no bailout... not if its going to cost the country al that money... instead, lets get rid of the criminals who still have survived hiding in Detroit and put them in jail or process them via the criminal justice system.... then, lets have private industry come to Detroit and further expand.... finally, lets BRING THE ILLEGAL ALIENS TO THIS CITY AND STRUCTURE DETROIT BRICK - PER - BRICK.... HAVE A HARD WORKING CLASS COME TO DETROIT TO STRUCTURE IT AGAIN... AND THE CHEAPEST HAND OF LABOR ARE THE MEXICANS.... SO ... IN OTHER WORDS, HOLMES, THIS COULD BECOME A LATINIZED CITY.... ARRIBA... AMIGO.
"all races are equal"
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At 2:36 shows the Michigan Central Train Deport. It went out of business when AMTRAK stopped running trains there in 1987. People take planes instead of trains nowadays. At 2:41 shows the Brush Park neighborhood, with some home built in the 1870s. After WW2, many of these former mansions were converted in apartments, then evolved into flophouses. A few of these mansion have been restored, such as 97 Winder Street built in 1880, and having 11,000 sq. ft. Currently listed at 2.5 million.
"Drive the cars I like to dress" oops lol
Slash taxes and let the unions fail. Detroit is fixed.
Completely false.......Detroit failed because it could not be competitive in a world market.
GM couldn't compete with Toyota, Honda, VW etc. The later are low cost producers, always innovate for consumers benefit & reliable after sales service.
Overpay ? U must be Republican
@plaguex1
It looks to be due north from Renaissance Center?
What is scary is its not just the manufacturing industry it's all aspects of employment. My husband has a Ba and 20 yrs exp and he's been out of work for 2 years. It's scary
The Union helped kill GM just as much as the executives and the in-ability to manage a brand properly.
The Unions owned something like 20% of the shares. This should never be allowed. This gives leverage in decision making.
When you have a company, you need to make cuts and re-structure to survive. If one type of car 'sucks'... you need to stop trying to sell it to the people. (or 15 types of the same SUV for that matter).
Focus on what sells, and keep it simple. Don't keep dead weight either... this includes union bosses that extort. Put the Union bosses to work on the line for a while.
unions did that to motor city.
Susanne Sheffer that and GM never evolved thir product to keep up with Japan.
I’ve never heard of black gangs being referred to as “unions.”
Ok, thanks for the imformation =)
Detroit stubbornly refused to start making smaller more fuel efficient cars. The Japanese got the jump on us. Plus the quality suffered. It's difficult for a city when its entire economy is primarily based on one industry. As a former Pittsburgher, and a proud American, I hope Detroit finds its way and can reinvent itself.
It really is a shame, people that wanted to buy a Toyota instead of a GM vehicle ruined the American economy.
How do you figure, out sourcing of jobs ruined the American economy. Toyota manufactures more vehicles and parts in north America then all the big three combined.
Toyota just make better cars ,full stop ,G.M shit
bob suruncle Oh sure, now Toyota does employ a lot of Americans, but the Big 3 used to employ a lot more Americans. Hiring some Americans is the least Toyota can do after having wrecked the American economy from the 70s to 2008.
Sending our entire manufacturing industry to China ruined the American economy. Printing money like there's no tomorrow ruined the economy. Some guy driving a Toyota had basically nothing to do with it.
Jerry Garner The decline began before they moved to China and massive layoffs happened. All those young baby boomers buying Corollas and Civics instead of Fords and Chevys in the 1970s got the ball rolling.
hey Journeyman why don't you show some of the new construction in Detroit ?
4 years ago.....
I paid for college on my own, graduated in 2008 and had the loans paid off by 2012. My parents didn't help at all. My mom's condo was foreclosed on and the company my dad worked for went under about 10 years ago so he was working free-lance and borrowing money from me. I went to community college the first two years and worked as many hours as I could to save money. I went to Northern Illinois where I got my Bachelors, I hope to get a masters one day. I have yet to surpass the 40K/year mark.
Well done what you achieved in studying but my heart is sore that you can’t get a really good salary
@@alundavies8402 I appreciate the sentiment; but in the interum between the previous comment and now, I was promoted, changed professions, and was promoted again, and my salary has increased by a good amount since this comment. I look at this old post and kinda laugh that I wanted to spend time, energy, and money on getting a masters degree.
@Mathias3710 the suburbs are as much of detroit as downtown is, sure the population of detroit is down, but there is still a huge number of people in the suburbs
@Thirdgen83 it's kicking in
I'm an engineer with 0 benefits, no retirement $65k/yr. My uncle worked at Ford welding the rear gates on pickups in Lorain OH. Last five years at Ford he was on parking lot duty making $100,000 a year. Retired with incredible pension and benefits. A co-worker at a prior engineering job told me how at Ford, someone would sabatoge the line. If the line was down for more than two hours or so, workers were sent home with full pay thanks to the union.
@1800MRROOF
I to have lived in Detroit all my life and still have yet to see these "vibrant communities" you speak of. Also, if Detroits problems are all related to the Big 3 struggling, then why was Detroit so dangerous and troubled in the late 60's and 70's when the Auto industry was humming along?
@TargetHFFH what a brilliant comment, thanks fot informing everyone
Wow nice to see this for myself all truth my family worked hard being that they were born in 1935
Journeyman Pictures: In the description, "Detroit is becoming more famous for its murder rate", not it's.
Now that's a number I would believe to be realistic! All the best.
just a thought: when a corporation promises you something for a lifetime of work, don't assume they will uphold their end of the bargain.
That Gold toy Corvette he holds at 10:42 is one of the Made In China ERTL series classic cars. The originals were made in Detroit by Jo-Han and then X-L plastics. Good luck finding any toy made in the USA.
i live in detroit its really bad bro bankruptcy and a person that lived around the corney got her head cut off
You’re correct, cities can break down but only those individuals who feel entitlement after the break down will fail, those who pick themselves up by the bootstraps and move to find work to support their families win. People spend more time and energy waiting for the actions of others when they should be focusing on making things happen for themselves and their families. Self preservations has been the way of the American, since our beginning.
So how much do they get for pension and what are they paying for health insurance?
I love the way you think.
I'm a welder in kalamazoo mi im 21yrs old and i will tell you how hard it is to find production jobs in michigan you are damn lucky if you can find a skilled job at $15/hr.
@dnlcast2 the toyota will look and drive like new after several years. cant say that about dodge, ford, gm. had a toyota for 15 years and it looked like it just rolled off the assembly line.
Your absolutely right.
From 3,000 people to produce to 50 to produce. If industry is eliminated there is no opportunity to have a viable town anywhere whether its Detroit or West Virginia. If a solution is not figured out for our nation in terms of jobs and industries with living wages, we will sadly no longer have a nation. And this applies to every nation around the world.
This video is from 2009. It's even worse now because GM doesn't make too many vehicles here in the US and the demand for GM vehicles in general has not recovered.
i am from one of the other GM towns in michigan (saginaw) and that town got nailed very badly as well.
the numbers of the jobless and crime rate literaly hit the roof!!!
it is such an ugly time to be living in here in america, especialy in michigan where the economy is at its worst out of all 50 states :(
„Drive the cars i like to dress“ that killed me right there XD
@EconCat88 I realize that, but still can't figure it out.
You are 100% correct.
Let's hope so...
Without competition, GM would be more profitable. A very intelligent observation.
I realized I was a conservative years before I got a white collar job. while in college when a friend was explaining the ideals of the Republican party. I worked service, retail, labor, carrying around drywall and toting a drill. I had a lot of blue collar neighbors growing up, I respect anyone who works for a living. I have always tested well in mathematics, top 1% in all those standardized tests back in school. I figured I'd try to maximize my ability. Good debate. Take care Lou.
They didnt get a good salary, they were getting 74 bucks an hour to do the bare minimum effort. If a toilet backed up, the employees would walk by and say get a plumber, because its not my job. The city set up lavish pensions for all their employees, spent the money and now 1/2 of the entire city budget is needed to support the pensions. There is no money for police or fire and the city has dropped into anarchy. Anybody with money left long ago. And now its a waste land.
@ the 4:26 mark, the narrator said the pistol is a 357 magnum, he's incorrect, it's probably a Sub-compact Glock 33 that shoots 357 SIG .
A lot of us dont have any health care and retirement..I left Detroit in 63 and see that as the best thing I ever did
You must own the Iron Sheik starter kit.
I've read up on it quite a bit, listened to the radio, watched the news, talked to people that work in hospitals. The ACA is already damaging the economy and has the potential to be detrimental to it long term and that truly concerns me. Come on Lou, any change is not good change. That's like saying trading in your 2013 Ford F150 for a 1991 Ford F150 with slipping transmission is good because its a change. Congress and their staff have been exempted from it, even Unions are now opposing it.
You're both right. I always thought joining a Union would help us, the non-union workers fared better. Pay union dues and not getting represented properly. Your job is at risk because the union wages and benefits are too high to compete again non-union employers. The companies can't handle the pressure either. Corporate big-wigs and union leaders are on the same side.
@SeanP7195 Here's another funny bit. Toyota makes cars in the US, and at a good profit. They refuse to allow unions in any factory they run, and will close shop and move elsewhere if the workers do decide to unionize.
They did have one factory that was unionized - the NUMMI plant in California, which had a union because the plant was run in partnership with GM. When GM went bankrupt, the union DEMANDED that Toyota pick up GM's obligation. Toyota immediately shut the factory down.
The government would not do any other group of people like this.nor would any other group aloud this.
I grew up in Detroit and saw what happened to it after the riot in the summer of 1967. It took a city that was racially divided and made it worse. Instead of people working together, blacks became angrier, whites moved from the central city to the suburbs. Few wanted to sit down and work out the problems from the riots, most wanted to just leave. For blacks, Coleman Young became their symbol of hope and for whites, he was a racist that didn't care if they stayed or left.
so sad to see a once thriving city in ruins.i am G.M.till i die.i always had one,always will.i still believe in G.M. even though some may say i am crazy to do so.feel very,very sad for Detroit.i hope things get better.later.
@wormtech
I LOL when I heard that during the video.
Tried to watch, couldn't get past the ads.
@dave19941000 But I suppose I'll start by filling you in that the avg Chinese labourer is making nearly 3 (USD) p. hour...and not "33 Cents" USD p. hour of labour. Did you fall into a time warp from 4-5 years ago lil fella?
I don't have any kids, nor a wife, just a girlfriend. Although I enjoy working with my hands I switched from a labor job to a desk job about a year ago. I took a cut in pay but I have a lot of potential with it. I'm very good with math, and that's the most important aspect of what I do so i enjoy it.
Haha, you could have worse addictions than working hard. Glad you are able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.
Considering it takes me about 3 months to make that after taxes it probably would be a little mind blowing haha. I had an opportunity awhile ago to get a pay bump by moving to Minot but I decided uprooting myself to live way out there was not worth it.
I live in a city with the largest rail yard west of the Mississippi, there used to be thousands that worked there, but now with computers, they don't even need half of the people they used to use. There are people in Omaha NE, on a computer and can tell people in California , Utah etc where a BoxCar is , and where to take it, everything is being done with fewer employees, doesn't matter if your talking Car manufacturing, Phone Company or the Rail Roads its all being done with less workers
I can't relate to that. I'm from the Gulf Region of Texas and living expenses are incredibly cheap. Average petroleum refinery operator is getting paid around $27 an hour, and they are risking their lives in amongst highly flammable chemicals and oil. Considering cost of living in Detroit is below the national average, it doesn't stand to reason that these people are getting 30-40 bucks an hour for a relatively safe job. Not for me at least. However, I do respect your opinion.
@pureefficient Go for it, buddy. Detroit is a buyers' market.
If I can speculate over what might have happened: the decline in the auto industry. I'm OS, but the auto industry has declined here as well what with cheap imports being so plentiful our local industry didn't stand a chance. However, because of the generous Government allowances and pensions paid in this country to the unemployed, no one felt the need to turn to crime in order to survive as it seems that those who were desperate and despairing might have in Detroit. Paying allowances to those who are unemployed, rather than increasing taxes and draining the economy, this actually circulates the money straight back into the economy - as the poor need to spend most everything of what they receive to live. This providing of everyone without work or means to live with a Government allowance also help to eliminate crime as everyone has enough to live on. This system also provides more volunteers to help with charity work as the Government insists that the younger people must do a certain amount of volunteer work per month to be eligible for their fortnightly allowance. Education and medical expenses are mostly free as well for those receiving Government pensions and allowances. This system works well for this country. Even back when the economies of many European countries were collapsing, the Federal Government -instead of reducing pensions- they decided to give all on pensions an extra bonus of about $1400 so that more money would be recycled into the economy. This boost to the economy meant that this country pretty much sailed through the depression-like conditions of 4-6 years ago which affected most of the rest of the world.
EDIT: On re-reading what I've just posted, I've noticed that the words after '...the Federal Government...' have been crossed out. This wasn't done by me and I've no idea why this has happened. YT censorship of comments regarding the Federal Government?
Okay, good for you,
@doglick131 i think everyone else before him from the 1960s and up took part in that. one man cannot destroy a city. everyone has to be held responsible.
The American way, "me me me" no concern about the community or the people next door. That's why U.S is in a drown spiral..
I bought a Chevy Cavalier. WHat a POS!!! The water pump broke several times, the starter sucked. It was cold blooded and uncomfortable. Stereo sucked. I hope the engineer of that thing is out of work!
Randy Sanduski speaking at 13:00 must have had his eyes closed. The miracle was that GM made it as long as it did before falling into government hands.
@barqs19 Bush did not know that, for sure, good one....
ok .... I'm waiting.
when i see those people walking out these plants in danger of loosing their jobs and livelihoods i find it hard to joke about their suffering... in fact, i find it a tad bit sickening.
The city of Detroit has been locked in a downward spiral for 40+ years. To think that the negotiations of a UAW contract will make a difference either way is completely laughable. Thank goodness Sanduski didn't lose his pension though. Pity the thought.
@normalais Amen to that brother.
@kyle8293 Toyota makes cars in the US, with enthusiastic American employees that aren't in unions. The one union plant Toyota had in the US (NUMMI, run in partnership with GM) was closed as soon as GM bailed on it. If a union manages to set up shop in a Toyota plant, Toyota closes the factory doors and moves elsewhere.
The problem is the UAW. If the US automakers would simply fire any employeee who is in a union or joins one, they could solve all their problems overnight.
@TAFKA0 The amount paid to a handful of CEOs is a miniscule fraction of the costs of paying a million UAW workers the equivilant of $70 or $80 per hour while working and almost as much in retirement. $2000. of the cost of every GM car does not go into the car. It goes to pay UAW wages and retirement benefits. How can GM or any other car company compete against other car companies whose employee wages and benefits are 1/4 of GM's? The problem is not corporate greed. Its UAW greed.
Detroit has made a decent comeback. Crime is still rampant beyond the gentrified areas.