The Force Dyad is Returning in "The Acolyte"
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- After Master Torbin decided to take the easy way out. It seems clear that the Jedi have some dirty secrets in their closet. We take a look at a Sith Prophecy and how it might be behind the Jedi's actions in the Acolyte.
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Never been the biggest fan of the dyad as we saw it in the sequels but the way you explained it here, with it being a predecessor of the Rule of Two, thats pretty damn cool. And also like you said, it makes the rule of two much more rational and sensible for the sith
Too bad it could never work for the Sith, by virtue of every Sith being power hungry and unwilling to share power with others unless they are the senior partner. Not to mention given their tendency to plot and scheme against their peers. Eventually, either Plagueis or Palpatine would have attempted to kill and replace the other.
Also the fact that Maes contact on Olega starts to say 'But Peace' and she finishes with 'Is a lie, I know...' which means she's heard the Sith doctrine before.
I think there’s a lot more to q’mir (the fixer) character stay tuned
@@GenerationTech Agreed, he's fairly fascinating.
Who else comes here to escape harsh creditors for a more “level headed view” on Star Wars shit? 🎉 😂 Star Wars is going through some weird waves and it’s upsetting a lot of people but Disney can’t tell Alan shit he stays open minded and overall positive in his view makes you think outside the hype it’s nice
I read your comment and thought for a second that Maes Hughes from FMA was in the show. That would be cool. 😃
@@mentlsen984 Honestly, I don't get the hatred for The Acolyte.
It really makes me curious if the Twins’ witch clan comes from another sect from the Dathomirian Nightsisters?
Maybe ether were banished or had to run from a more powerful clan.
Cadet branch type of thing maybe
in an interview the actress said the covenant of witches is independent from the dathomirian nightsisters
@rjmeeks4152i think those were light sisters who use the light side where the night sisters use the dark side
One of the subtle things about the Padawan Massacre series of events that makes me laugh a bit - is that the Covenant based their beliefs that one of their Padawan would be the new Sith was because they saw a Sith wearing one of the space suits that their Padawan wore during a training exersize.
Skip ahead a few comics, and Zayne Carrick rescues a bunch of Revanchist from imprisonment with the Mandalorians, and gives his space suit to one of the escapee's he befriended.
That Jedi was Alak, aka Darth Makak.
In other words, the Covenant effectively created a self-fulfilling prophecy. And they killed their own Padawan, and forced another into hiding... for nothing.
So the exact same thing in Prequel Trilogy and The Clone Wars.
Yoda didn't act on the future visions in the end which made him not responsible for the downfall.
The best prophecies are self fulfilling or ambiguous. Then those who listened are left wondering if those events would have happened if they never heard the prophecy.
Also the Harry Potter prophecy let’s not forget that chosen one either 😂
. . . i've always suspected . . . the being, who eventually was transformed by the detonation of the Mass Shadow Generator on Malachor 5- into Darth Nilihus- The Lord of Hunger . . . was none other, than Zayne Karrack . . .
. . . the Jedi- created, their own Doom . . . through Fear . . . the Emergence of Darth Sidious- and the Galactic Empire millennia later . . . was no different . . .
In Good Omens Newt argues that prophesies only work because the people who read or hear the prophesy ensure it comes to pass. Anathema admits there's evidence that's how all prophesies work.
I wonder how much you paid for the land on the world of Hoth Winter Adventures Inc., can you share your real-estate agents number? 🤣😂
Alan, how much are you paying for indoor heating as to not freeze to death in a T-shirt? On friggin’ Hoth, no less?
I always enjoy watching your videos. You are probably my favorite Star Wars RUclipsr. I appreciate your level of perception and ability to read between the lines and see things for what they are. Both in the Star Wars universe, and in our own reality.
Darth Bane was the only Sith that took the Rule of Two literally. Master, Apprentice plus force sensitive assassins and alchemists. Inquisitors are Sith Assassins but they are allowed because they are rebranded as Inquisitors.
TWO MOTHERS?! THEY’RE RUINING FICTION
Meanwhile, Heimdall having nine biological mothers in Nordic mythology
I haven't heard of this from norse mythology before.
Both are stupid if so.
I haven't understood the obsession with followers of a 2000 year old fiction story getting upset about components of another fiction story. After all, the scriptures clearly state that it is your personal and private belief between you and god, that means you need to shut your religious mouth up and keep those beliefs in your head.
I also must add that Loki gave birth to one of his sons in Norse Mythology.
@@RidgeWalker-jw1rr What are you talking about?
Matthew 28:19-20
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
Literally took me 10 seconds to find on google.
What I think you were alluding to is Matthew 10: 14
If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
No way you've got such a nice place in Hoth.
must be expensive
@@Billigoat21 - Your Republic credits are no good here....
this guy is literally the only pragmatic Star Wars fan out there.
There are a lot of us out there. Not just the brain-dead AntiSJWs crying
Genuinely a good guy
There are a lot of good people in the fandom … it’s just the RUclips algorithm it brings out the worst in creators. The pressure is real and getting views is addictive. But things like fear, anger and hate seem to drive clicks better because of how our human psyche is built. Social media is ruining Star Wars 🤦♂️
Not really, he makes generally good videos but I can feel my brain melt whenever he goes on some idiotic tirade about how “totalitarianism is bad” or some other idiotic nonpartisan speech that means nothing at all
@@GenerationTech Most of the other creators (excluding yourself, Eckheart and Geetsly who I'd say are still fine) seem to have forgotten Yoda's message about the dark side. It's quicker, easier, more seductive but, at the end of the day, giving into that hate will just destroy everything they care about eventually. Either because people will stop watching their videos because they're tired of the negativity or because they'll "win" and Disney will decide Star Wars isn't worth it anymore and then there'll never be any new Star Wars products and there channels will die from that because they now have nothing to complain about anymore.
I'm not saying they have to like everything that's released or even that some of what Disney has released isn't deserving of criticism. But they should focus those criticisms on the actual issues with the product and try and explain to Disney why they shouldn't make stuff like that again. At the end of the day, Disney wants to make as much money as possible and the best way for Disney to do that, is to find out what caused something to not meet expectations and improve on those aspects on the next project. It's kind of hard for them to do so when a lot of the complaints just end up being "Disney Bad!"
I think Allen lives on a spaceship. You just have to look out his window to catch a glimpse of all the worlds he visits! I'm kinda jealous, ngl, and I hope we get a spaceship tour one day! :D
Never drink the koolaid
If a droid's mind can be played onna screen and an organic being can watch it
Did you notice that when a youngling sees a great fire in the force, Master Sol gives a look and seems startled? Just sayin'.
TBH kids going "I see butterflies!" "I see sunshine!" then another kid going "I see fire..." is a bit shocking. xD
I enjoy listening to your theories, you really bring the Star Wars universe alive!
I think the Sith master is the guy from the store that’s helping her out🤷🏻♂️
Agreed but I hope not
He's way too young. Only way it works is if the previous master died prematurely. If anything, he's the apprentice and the sith lord is hiding. I just don't see a viable reason why they allow a Sith assassin especially one who shows her face to risk being uncovered.
I don’t know if he’s officially a Sith Lord but he is definitely an Edge Lord.
Watch out that guy has Force Molotov Cocktails!
Could be sith alchemy
Retrospectively, you could apply this fan theory on the Force Dyad further back than the Rule of Two era as well. Remember that Tenebrae had twin sons in his Valkorian persona. He was able to possess and manipulate many different bodies simultaneously, so perhaps he was attempting to cultivate a Force Dyad between Arcann and Thexan so he could possess both of them and control the power fully himself.
Love your theory. Makes sense. Will be watching the rest of the series now, just to see if you're on the right track
Glad to see you back in my algorithm, Alan. Thank you for your work. Also: subbed.
Amazing video man I have loved your Acolyte videos
This makes me think more of a space battle when Anakin, Jacen, and Jaina came together in the force as one. Would this be considered a force triad? It was in one of the New Jedi Order books.
Jedi Council dunce Ki-Adi-Mundi said "Sith have been gone for a millennia" not Yoda or Mace. Both Yoda and Mace knew darkness was rising and Yoda was alive for 900 years, he knew Ki-Adi-Mundi didn't know what the fk he was talking about.
Cereans, such as Ki-Adi-Mundi have human-like lifespans so you may have a point.
More likely that Yoda and Mace Windu, as the two most senior ranked members of the Order, had knowledge of the Banite Sith that they weren't sharing with the rest of the Council.
I can't wait for your full review of the show because I've only seen fans complain with no criticism of the show sadly which has become norm these days
No criticism? Either lying or trying not to look for it
I get what you’re saying. But even the best shows or movies got at least one critique. It can be as simple as it starts off a little too slow.
How about the opening is stupid, or the fact that the writer doesn't understand Jedi, or how about the REALLY stupid fire in space, or the jedi who doesn't think the twin is alive and then suddenly decides the other twin is innocent. Or how twins raised very separately not only have the same hairstyle, the use the exact same color beads in thier hair? Have you not heard any of that, or are you just automatically assuming all criticism is invalid?
@@TiberiusX the opening where a Jedi died what's wrong with that. The Jedi in this show are no different from the ones we saw in the prequels. What fire in space, the ship crashing. The twins already had their hair when they were younger before everything happened and one twin has longer hair also the hair they have could be cultural from their family.
@courtneymr5u1cid39 your argument is that twins separated from young BOTH kept the same hairstyle and NEVER changed even the beads?
She was still in space. In a spaceship.
No, the opening where a Jedi dies because she didn't use her lightsaber, and was hit by a knife? C'mon Riva can survive a loghtsaber to the chest, but she dies from a butter knife.
Thanks for proving the fans of this horribly written fanfic have 2 braincells bumping into eachother.
One of the other ideas utilized by the Rule of Two Sith in Legends was to weaken the jedi by having individuals and organizations reveal themselves as hostile to the jedi and Republic before being ready to be a true threat.
I think the Acolyte is basically the SWTOR consular class story. Jedi Masters with a dark secret from a old mission and a senior jedi who is secretly a servant of the dark side. 😅
Master Sol is the only reason I’m watching this now, after Indara’s dead
Sadly for you no one cares what you feel
Darth Plagueis was a great book! Also twins were a big deal in New Jedi Order.
Very good analysis
Once she communicated with her sister Mae like she did, I was thinking that they were a Force Diad. Connections in the Force are important and identical twins would have a strong connection to begin with if they were Force sensitive, let alone from a Force sensitive family. It was pretty obvious after the after the flash backs and everything that the fire was caused by the Jedi, probably fighting the parents. I suspect that the Jedi might have not been there to kill anyone and that they had just come there to take the children in as members of the Jedi Order or to relocate them to a secure location so that they would never develop their powers since they hadn't been trained as Jedi since early childhood. The Jedi "we don't want accidental misuse of the Force" policy the Order liked so much. They were probably pretty surprised when the mothers opposed them using the Force and lightsabers cause fires in homes pretty easily.
I still believe the rule of two ultimately weakened the sith from their true potential. How many apprentices were able to kill their master before some non combat teaching was learned? Or how many used subterfuge to kill their master?
The issue is that these women are not Hutt's, or another species with different reproductive systems. They are human. If they want to go as far as to explain it was in vitro fertilisation or a force encouraged birth or something, fine. That's not what they're doing so far tho. It'd also be extremely uncreative if they try to ret-con the latter, as that was litterally the plot in the sequel trilogy. It'd just be lazy.
Anakin Skywalker had two dads lol.
don't even start 🤣
@@GenerationTech haha ok ok.
Didn't. Shmi born Anakin without a father.
@@LukiKruki I'm not familiar with the logistics, but it was just a joke about Palpatines and Plagueis trying to use the force to create life.
A dual mom force birth could also apply to Anakin - I think that was the point, to tie both events together.
I'm excited to see where it goes.
Worms are hermaphrodites, huts are hermaphroditic worms. Not really a surprise. Seems like Anakin's conception is nothing special anymore.
I''m wondering if there's more to Master Sol than meets the eye. There was something about Lee Jung-jae's performance that I found wooden at first, I put it down to his limited ability to act in English, on rewatch I think that woodiness is deliberate him being evasive to protect himself. I suspect he inserted himself into the mission in order to protect Osho, and potentially even himself, from the Jedi. Just think how quick he was to believe Osha, and how he refused to restrain her to the consternation of the other Jedi.
He feels more like a Qui-Gonn type of character, who is more willing to believe his intuition and feelings, which he has to downplay due to how dogmatic the jedis surrounding him are at this point in time.
I was thinking there are major transition vibes from the high republic look to the jedi . With white and gold robes to the more earth tones we saw in the prequels
my biggest problem with the show so far is that Yord has a yellow lightsaber - he's always the first to suggest using force or weapons, he should have a blue one
Isn’t that more of the thing for an old-school sentinel to do? Stab with yellow-blade first, ask questions later?
Lol the show runners don’t care bout details they literally said that all they care about is the aesthetic
@@Hunter_6601 …but details help the asthetic the most overall-
I'm going to have to rewatch some vids to see if the outside view has always been an ice planet base....
Dude be careful, Ive heard rummors that the empire planet cracked hoth because of a trigger happy death trooper, so living there might be dangerous.
Thanks👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Ya know Allen...you have a great voice
Greetings from the Hoth Trenches 🫡
Hello there
Palpatine was too selfish to share power with Darth Plaguis as the latter had hoped for, and was obsessed with achieving immortality. Realistically he only ever viewed his apprentices as disposable tools and intended to sit on the throne forever.
haters and trolls they would have attacked the orignal movies if social media had been around in the 70s. I have enjoyed hte Acolyte so far and I have only the seen the same 2 episodes everyone else has
The funniest part of delusional people is they don't recognize they're delusional. The show sucks
@@isaacgriffin5690 then dont watch it and dont come on sites and critize poeple that are enjoying it
Interesting theory about this covenant killing Padawans. I see “The Acolyte” going in a different direction.
I suspect the witches on Brendock may have been allied with a dark side force user, who was being hunted by the Jedi. The Jedi sent a team to confront the dark side user on Brendock.
The Jedi attacked the dark sider, which may have been what Mae referred to in the opening scene. Mae accused Master Indara of attacking people. Mae was not accusing the Jedi Order, as a whole.
At some point during the lightsaber fight, a fire was started. The fight could have been started by anyone, but I suspect that it may have been the dark side user.
The four Jedi that Mae is hunting could be the sole Jedi survivors of that fight and eventual forest fire. The dark sider escaped with Mae, while the Jedi escaped with Osha.
That’s my crazy prediction. I have had fun coming up with it.
Great vedio
This reminds me of the one clone wars ark where the huts have to stop zero from giving all the huts records to the Jedi
After watching this video, I do not know why the Third Republic and Luke's Jedi Order do not undo the Imperial propaganda by showing the known galaxy the evidences about the Empire's war crimes like at all? After all, why peoples only called the Jedi and the Republic out but not the Sith and the Empire?
Good question. After WW-II, many influential congressmen were also implicated to have supported the Nazi’s while being in political office in the USA.
Citizens were tired of the war and preparing for baring the brunt of the cost of rebuilding Europe so no one wanted to bring up those congressmen so USA could return to peace.
I speculate the Republic was in a similar state after the ‘death’ of Palpatine (the OG).
I really hope they explore more into the Sith Eternal in the Acolyte. Maybe Qimir identifies as Sith Eternal.
You totally called the fact that Mae and Osha were created via the Force
Lesley Headlund pretty much confirmed this was about the Sith in an interview with dave filoni so, yeah that 'master' is a Sith.
Glad to see that someone else thought of witches or something cultural of the specific planet like a community of women like in Darthomir when they spoke about Osha's mothers and not any agenda of this Earth... And I was wondering if I am naive! Morgan Elsbeth called "mothers" the witches that were with Thrawn and they weren't even some type of family.
It's nice to see good theories around the story. To be fair your point with the dyad is interesting. That can explain why Sol so easily changed his mind about Mae being alive after Osha just claiming she is. I agree that the Jedi have done something very dodgy. I am curious to see how Sol seems "at peace" with what happened.
In any way, finally some interesting conversation. The show has its missteps and the dialogue is clunky. But it seems alright, not a masterpiece but alright. We can make a final assessment when it is concluded. No need for so much hate. It is irrational. It's just telly at the end of the day!
Anakin didn't have a father. Just a mom. Shmee.
The rule of two was only ever true in the time of Bane.
For all other Sith they hold such rules as the Jedi do with disdain.
Snoke said he was the one who bridged their minds, so does that mean he created the dyad, perhaps accidentally?
they had a vision of Vader but didn't know and thought it was one of their padawans since they were wearing environmental suits on the time, Zayne was late as usual and walks in while they massacre was happening and why he gets blames
Dude we're is the sound?
Dude, theres no way Leslye Headland knows anything you just said 😂 she was the Acolyte to Darth Weinstein and just winging it and doing her own thing. Shes put zero thought into the show and is not a good person. Love the optimism though.
Needs a script doctor!
Wait, I thought Mae burned the village down.
The rule of two is stupid as hell. There's a reason why every king wanted "an heir and a spare". And even then, many of the dynasties went extinct anyway.
The Sith were one faulty wire or drunk driver away from oblivion...
Havent fully watched the video yet but Shimi said Anakin never had a father and i swear its accepted that he force impregnated Shimi making him the choosen one
So having 2 mothers both being strong forces users i could imagine that
I think there is also a difference between the force directly intervening to conceive Anakin whose connection to the force is unlike anything before and witches using some, possibly dark side, rituals to conceive two force sensitive girls.
It makes so much more sense for more Force-Sensite beings to exist. I mean, its a GALAXY, with huge as planets full of trillions of sentient beings. How am I supposed to belive there is only so few?
Is this the first video with a Star Wars scene in the windows?
no
Why didn't Aniken where a wire when saying on palpatine
If Anakin could be conceived by the Force and the Force alone, it wouldn’t be so radical to assume two women that are strong in the old ways of the Force could use it to conceive a child of their own.
Never forget that the producer was the assistant to Harvey weinstein!
Bro's living on Hoth
The force doesn't allow you to make life using the force, smh. It controls who is born. The force creating Anakin was a special case which George set up
They could have also been dealing with the remnants of both the Nihil and their force eaters. This makes sense to me since the Jedi and Republic committed genocide against the Sith species.
Very interesting, sir. 😉
Actually the hurts changing sexs is not impossible, in nature, sea horses (I believe) can change sex.
But I do know that the male sea horse carry their young not the female
My god, the gaslighting. Having two mothers isn't the problem, it's using the Force to create babies from it. Even Plagueis failed at that and The Force created Anakin as punishment to end the Sith for them trying such a thing.
Will the Force create a Being to end all Female Witches for forcing their will on The Force to create life the same way it did to Plagueis and the Sith or is it wrong for only males to do that?
I feel like you haven't watch the show yet, because I have no idea what you're talking about. I recommend stop watching youtubers comment about these shows and just watch yourself first.
@@GenerationTechDoesn't the question presented have to do with an episode that has not come out yet? It's a legitimate question based on what happened during the prequels and what everyone is speculating of episode 3.
A Clan of witch’s in star war would most likely be able to create a child using the force, look at some of the stuff mother talson could do when it came to maul, savage and her own revival, then they’res shme with was impregnated by the force because plaugis and palpatine tried to create the ultimate dark sider, 2 witch’s could definantly hypothetically create a child if they are strong enough in the force/ have assistance from idk a clan of powerful force using witch’s?
Ok now being further into the video I see I jumped the gun
My apprentice... It does not matter if the Sith forgo the rule of two or want the Dyad.. Dyad or no Dyad, rule of two ot rule of twenty it doesn't matter. Force power or not no point. Moral of the story is... We are all made of meat 🥩 and in the end up, all can be cooked and placed on a dinner table.
Didn’t Palpatine use the force to create anakin in a way?
I'm just waiting to see Morag from Ewoks make an appearance. HEAR ME OUT. Goofy looking animated character, but she would be creepy as HELL in live action. Just saying......
*edit she definitely could not in this show as she couldn't have been born until 130 at the earliest. But in something!
Can anyone please tell me when the actual F#*k the Jedi ever killed Sith babies? lol.
I don’t know why people don’t understand that what the Sith want is to personify the Force. They become monsters because if someone were to suddenly become almost omnipotent among mortals, they too would quickly become a monster.
100% those witches teach the sith how to create life!!
Why do you try to make sense of this crap? The writers dont seem to have a clue of what they are doing.
Get into 40k
black girl walks in finds white dude floating serenely says "we have unfinished business attack me with all your strength" (this was also the first line of the show also said to a white woman) proceeds to trash about trying to pierce white mans floating serenity but its impossible with his impenetrable force privelege. the ANSWER according to the writers to the plight of the gay black woman is guilting the floaty white dude to guilt him into killing himself which is how the plot line resolves. Once you see it you cant unsee it lol
I’d opine that the twins’ mothers had a pool of males to reproduce like the Dathomiri Night Sisters did in their traditions.
Sometimes I like his content, but there are times I just shake my head and turn it off. This be one of those times.
Only the Sith deal in absolutions.
Are you on Hoth?
That's some prime real estate that air bnb location there inum.
Patreon be doing well then?
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Why didn't the Keminowins take interest in minichlorines
The down fall of the rule of 2 is,,,, there's only 2. No matter how strong you are. Your gonna get out numbered once outed. Darth Krait had it right.
If I ever found myself in charge of an emo murder cult I would use the fibonacci sequence for my chain of command. 1 master, 1 apprentice, 2 stooges who only know that the apprentice has a master, 3 stooges for my stooges, etc.
Also: Why would he keep the Sith secret after all he has accomplished.
The Sith killed the witches and framed the Jedi and the Jedi thought it was their fault. Thats what I'm thinking will happen lol
My thoughts exactly.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 I tink the Sith could have manipulated Koril to overthrow Aniseya and attack the Jedi to prevent them from taking Osha. Its very clear that Aniseya favored the twins happiness and Oshas own will, so she was willing to give up her plans and let Osha find her own way, while Koril seemed much more aggressive and militant.
@@shizachan8421 another likely possiblity.
@@CloneScavengerVulpin8389 I also feel like Mae is not supposed to be a Sith Acolyte, but instead I assume that her Master is the Sith Acolyte who trains her into being his personal assassin, similar to how Dooku trained Asaj.
@@shizachan8421 two acolytes in other words.
The haters keep clinging to what Mundi said.. Falling to realize when he said it the Sith had been looming for for a while so how valid was his statement? 🤔
I seriously doubt they put as much effort into researching the lore as you think. This is like trying to jam a piece of the puzzle into a spot that doesn't fit. It's a valiant effort but let's be realistic about where Star Wars is as a franchise. Canon means nothing.
green girl is the sith same hands. also show runner is narcissistic so she'd give her girlfriend the heavy roll.
How come matriarchy is portrayed as positive in fiction but never Patriarchy.
Feminism.
Women = good
Men = bad
Loaded question. The answer is you'd rather watch the ragebait on youtube than the century of film and tv that has been traditionally male dominated both in production and intended audience. Go watch a spaghetti western. They are very exciting.
one of your best videos