And so is having a horrible offensive line. Trading for Keenan Allen was a mistake. Should have used the resources instead on offensive line. I would have not used the 8th pick on Odunze either. I would have traded down with the pick up get both a receiver and maybe a second or third round Center or Offensive lineman
@@musume7723You act like a QB not having JF's speed is a surprise. JF is one of the fastest NFL QBS in history. His 40 time is the 6th fastest ever and he's barely slower than Lamar, Vick, Kyler to the point where it would be hard to even detect.
@@nathanshackelford7812a QB not having JF's speed isn't a surprise, but all I ever heard about Caleb was about how athletic he was. And then I see him in the games and he kinda just seems kinda average
Caleb is holding the ball longer than JF. JF could at least run. Caleb can’t. He is doing worst than any other QB drafted with him. We told Parkins JF was better but he didn’t listen. 😂
Danny...Caleb got sacked 9x against the Patriots aka 1 of the worst teams in the league & a HORRIBLE defense. He hasn't played good against actual competition cuz thats where people judge him. His accuracy, lack of chemistry with DJ, his horrible deep ball & misses receivers open are a bunch of issues
Do you always judge players after 8 starts in thier rookie year? How do you think the great quarterbacks of the past looked after 8 starts? Seems like your reasoning is flawed...
I would have never drafted Caleb. All he cared about in college was money. Transfers then quits midway through the season. Then before ever being drafted wanted ownership in the team. He’s the player that’s been told his whole life he’s so great that he never worked on his fundamentals. His struggles don’t surprise me at all. He’s not a dawg. He has no guts, he’s soft. On top of that it couldn’t happen to a better team with their ridiculous local sports media. They are so delusional.
@ Merrill Hodge told the truth until all the analysts and draft specialists and the great ESPN made him walk it back. So yeah all the talking heads who repeat the same information as the next were indeed wrong.
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972Yes, they were all wrong and you should learn not to take everything they say as gospel. Caleb Williams is the same POST HEISMAN & PRO DAY Caleb Williams. Inaccurate past 15 yards and overthrown deep ball. Unworthy of passing on the franchise altering draft haul, unworthy of the number one overall draft pick. QB4 of the 2024 NFL Draft.
All this happened because, the fanbase, and part of the team wanted JUSTIN FIELDS, so there was no way they can get a vet to go with Caleb, also and most importantly, the Bears are stupid, QB wasn't what they needed, they could have sold high for Caleb Williams, say a team like the Rams, gotten back picks in this years draft and next years draft, fleeced another team, and filled up on more important parts of the Defense and Offensive line, but no they went for the splash pick, and kept team and ownership disfunction.
Not all the fanbase wanted JF. Not even close. Just was also due to get paid. Even mid QBs are getting ridiculous contracts. Do you think giving Justin Fields $250,000,000.00 is a good idea? That's a big chunk of the salary cap. What do you think that would do to the future of the franchise?
@@joeshoe6184CW18 is already more expensive than JF1 contract ever was, not only is his rookie contract 4yr 40 mil vs JF 4yr 18 mil twice as much, I’m positive CW18 ain’t gonna give the Bears no discount when it come to that second contract
@@Agentlowe Justin's rookie deal was up this year. He was due to get Paid. If Caleb looks mediocre after 3 years of starting like Justin did, you trade him and start over. Especially if you have the #1 pick. There aren't many GMs in the league that would keep a mid QB who's rookie contract is up when they hold the first pick in a good quarterback draft. It's just not smart.
@@joeshoe6184I’m just saying I feel like you could have gotten JF1 on a team friendly deal and traded back taken a franchise tackle, picked up other pieces and stopped this rinse and repeat cycle we’ve been stuck in.
The players always know. It's not about Tyson Bagent. It's about how bad Caleb is. Those players want to get paid and they know with Caleb they have no chance at putting up number.
@ could’ve gave fields a baker or Geno like deal also he had to spend the money anyway with the right drafting and trading down would be no need for Nate Davis Keenan Allen and a couple other vets all that salary could’ve went to fields 4 years 110 million with 70 guaranteed and filled all the wholes with the draft and had multiple frp for years to come
you make good points. Geno and Baker are on their second and third teams tho, maybe that's part of why they took less money. Either way, JF is currently a backup, and I still like Caleb on a rookie deal.
@joeshoe6184 And save whatever Justin Fields market value would be twenty fold on the 12 top tier players added to the roster over the next three years on ROOKIE CONTRACTS FOR FIVE YEARS! Not knowing this is proof that Chicago sports talk garbage is making the fan base dumber.
You could say that Caleb has more talent than purdy also but that doesn't make Caleb better. Bagent runs the offensive bro and reads better and makes quicker decisions. So what if he can't throw as hard or far. He's a Starter in the league he will get a shot somewhere
If CW is bad the rest of the year, I don't want to hear about coaching. Because if you say that this guy is bad too, then why didn't you give Waldron the full year? Guy is a rookie. You gave the coach nine whole games? If the media didn't hype him up to be god, this wouldn't even be an issue. He is still trying to play like he did in college. He needs to not do that. If the coaches aren't trying to coach them out of that, that's a problem. If they are, then this is squarely on him. The media SUCKS. Most people in the media thought Colorado was going to be awesome last year, Westbrook on the Lakers was the new Big 3, etc. They overhype everything.
I was in the Fields camp....BUT.... they went ahead and drafted Caleb.....then did absolutely NOTHING to make sure "their guy" has a good opportunity....no, they instead are ruining Caleb....the same way they ruined Justin Fields....no OL....no playbook highlighting the strengths of the players....nothing. So they used the excuse of Fields was never "our guy"....wonder what the excuse will be when they are dumping Caleb in the next couple years....nevermind, this whole regime will probably be gone...and the new regime will just say Caleb "wasn't our guy"
Only thing with fields is he played the exact way in Pittsburgh as he did in Chicago. He’ll make the occasional throw but teams fear his running. People forget fields fell down in the draft to 11 for the bears, he wasnt a 1-5 pick. I agree the media lives in in making hyperbolic statements for hot takes/shock jock headlines. Caleb is a rookie, makin rookie mistakes. Who would have thought? If we are holdin him to this standard then everyone would have cut peyton manning after his rookie season settin the int record
"Media" isn't some monolithic thing. There was a wide variety of opinions about Caleb. Most of these shows choose people who have different opinions and let them debate. Take this show for example, they rarely agree about anything.
@@joeshoe6184yes but most of the media agreed/s on these things. There were ball knowers that said Colorado has no line play, LeBron needs 3andD guys, and Caleb doesn't have a long history of playing in structure. Everyone else was like BUT DEION, triple double HoFer, Caleb has the tools doesn't need to do what he did at USC. Aaron Rodgers another good one. HE IS MOTIVATED ..but uh, he's old, didn't play well last year at GB, and is bringing in substandard talent. Most people were sky high on all this stuff and were wrong. Not to say CW will be bad forever, but people were like CJ Stroud? That's the floor!
@ryanblosser6081 you do make good points. Stroud looks pretty average this year, after being crowned by the majority of media and fans after an impressive rookie season.
The "he's had good games" argument is interesting. It's true but it was against terrible competition. He's about to play a ton of divisional games and he'll play even worse, which barely seems possible.
The teams he had success against were bad but hes mad throws to receivers that were covered. He was taking the check down vs the rams. Someone has gotten into he head and now hes gun shy to throw it. Ill be at the green bay game so it will be my first time seeing the field in full live.
In my humble opinion, I believe that they should have kept Justin Fields for a little bit. It would have been easy for them to probably start Caleb, a little later than right from the beginning of the season
Cant wait to see Parkins admit he was wrong about Williams being the next Mahomes. Williams is suffering the same fate as Justin Fields, lack of pass protection and lack of good offensive coordinator
Except Fields found a way to become #2 All - Time in the Record Book & his cleats enshrined in the NFL HALL OF FAME. That was in Fields first full season as Bears starting QB. The same season Poles stripped the roster to the bare bones in order to tank/lose on purpose! No excuses for Caleb Williams!
Danny Parkinson's doesn't remember that Jamarcus Russell was so much more talented than Tom Brady to the point Jamarcus could throw a ball 70 yards from his knees. How many wins did that get him?
O Danny boy was okay with Tyson replacing Justin Fields last season. * Chicago sports talk thought it would be good for Justin to watch Tyson and learn. * Weasley Chris Collinsworth evejn said it during a national broadcast game. Smh
@@scoesixtray2457 name one Chicago sports talk person that called for Bagent to start over Feilds. I listen to The Score every day, listening now in fact, and ESPN 1000 occasionally and watch the TV folks on RUclips pretty regularly. I don't remember a single one calling for Bagent over Feilds.
@@thebigdubnetwork confirming that he looks like a rookie QB with a bad O line? It takes a couple seasons to really judge a QB. Look at Stroud, last year he was the second coming, this year he looks decidedly average. Payton Manning was terrible his rookie season. Yet some folks are ready to write Caleb off and crown Jayden Daniels after 8 games.
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972 do you really think that he’s gonna sit there and say that they’re not give me a break dude come on I’ll gullible are you that’s just stupid
Caleb Fingernails Williams is a bust. When i saw him crying in mommy's lap and heard he painted his Fingernails is said he'll yes that's who I want leading my team. Whata a joke.
They need to clean house. The Bears messed up by not firing the head coach last year. They need an offensive minded coach ie Ben Johnson (Detroit Lions) or Kingsbury
Bruh bagent won’t do anything better, go watch the games last year.. he barely could beat the horrible panthers. Let Caleb play and develop like rookies should do
Should have kept Justin Poles skin wasn’t think enough he went with the way everyone would have went he couldn’t see the flaws Caleb had was blind to them ignored them was so stuck up on getting his guy and impressing the media he set us years back I really think Marvin Olu would have did it you could have got cute traded back in the first round for a pass rusher waist of draft
Do you think JF is worth a quarter billion dollars? Even mid QBs are getting ridiculous contracts these days. $250,000,000.00 What do you think that does to the salary cap?
Mr Overbite is not qualified to quantify a QB’s skills. You think a guy that can’t beat Notre Dame, is going to excel against pros? He was Not the best player in college at his position, but went number 1 behind the hype. Caleb can not carry Justin’s pads or fill his shoes. JD would have been an obvious choice. The Bears wanted a soft QB. They didn’t want Justin. They also are not qualified to quantify a QB’s skills. They can’t see it! They have had a hundred years of not seeing it. If it was my job to talk about QBs, I would not use the Bears as a good example of knowing how to pick a QB, including how to quantify a QB’s skills
No, Williams should not be benched. Let's be honest here. The Bears are not good at developing quarterbacks. Nearly 30 different men have started as quarterback for a Bears game since 2000. Look it up. This includes "long" term quarterbacks such as Cutler, Grossman, Trubisky, Fields, Orton. For a variety of reasons they just are not good at developing quarterbacks. The Bears need a new coaching staff that will focus on developing Williams and getting him an O-line to help block better and improve the running game.
The fans: Bears are so bad they have more punting yards than passing yards The media: Bears drafted a Hall of Fame punter in the 4th round and the got Caleb too
Do the players in the locker room see something or know something? What are they saying about Caleb? I personally think we should see TB17 next week. Physically protect the kid.
Man, these guys make the definition of clowns hello we did have veteran quarterbacks. The last two years on the roster and Tyson beat them out both years to become number two.
Have you seen the kind of money that even mid QBs are getting these days? Do you think JF is worth $50,000,000.00 a year? What do you think a quarter billion dollar contract does to the salary cap and the ability to sign free agents in the future?
@@joeshoe6184Have you seen how much money teams save by getting draft hauls & adding 3-4 TOP TIER PLAYERS to the roster for three straight years ON ROOKIE CONTRACTS FOR FIVE YEARS? That covers Justin Fields market value twenty fold! Not knowing this is proof Chicago sports talk media is making the fan base dumber!
The word talent for Quarterback is just such an oddity of a way to describe it. Like they say Caleb has all this talent but what really is it. Someone please explain. What if Bagent is actually a better passer. They turn around and say Caleb is not all the accurate. Then so where is the talent if that is the case. Then it's not like he is even that good of a runner. Fields ran so much better and made way crazier plays. He could take that rock to the house. I don't think Caleb could do that unless he had to perfect situation where about 15 other QBs could do if given the same opportunity. Going back to talent. Would we consider Tom Brady a talented QB. What is talent at the QB position?? Caleb needs to show it in the NFL. He has not really so far. He's played decent. But now starting to play poorly. I want to see how he will play versus good defenses now and more talented teams
Time to let go of JF, he had one amazing year with his LEGS and the team was terrible. He isn't the guy and was never going to be the guy. I've seen Caleb make throws this year that JF couldn't even dream of making. CW's biggest issue is consistency and hopefully a change in coaching will help. If it doesn't then the Bears start over again before his rookie contract is up and try to find another player at THE most important position in the sport.
@@caseysager655Fact is: send Caleb Williams to the Steelers and he's QB3 behind Russell Wilson and 10 Touchdowns 1 Interception 93.9 QBR IN SIX GAMES! Justin Fields Facts!
Definitely don’t bench Caleb. He’s a rookie expected to play like a veteran. I think you get rid of the HC. Now that Chicago fired their OC Caleb has to learn another system which is confusing to a rookie. Chicago ruins young QB’s.
Neither do the Patriots and they have zero talent at WR, yet Maye still looks substantially better. CW is making the line look worse than they are. He’s holding onto the ball entirely too long.
The dopehead on the right claimed Caleb and the Bears were super bowl contenders and got a job at FS1 for his lies. Now he's looking more stupid by blaming everyone else for Caleb's failures and its hilarious to watch.
There in lies on of the biggest problems… Stop stamping these rookie with this “generational narrative”… it’s not fair, because everyone is over expecting from the rookie how you and Danny’s being the biggest CW cheerleader is the main one pushing it..
this is what happens when the fans torch and hate on their own draft pick the entire offseason before he even plays a game. The dude has no confidence because the city hates him. Chicago fans being poverty as usual 😂
what happened to all that making unprecedneded demands pre-draft as if he was next mahomes , demanding owning a percentage of the team, and bro arrogance that hought his painted nails would set the next generational trend. i use the term bro loosely
Last year DJ Moore set career highs with Justin Fields in catches, yards and TDs..don't tell me Caleb Williams is better than Justin..numbers and chemistry don't lie. Resons why Poles let Justin go is because he didn't want to pay him ( Poles is very cheap GM) and he THOUGHT Williams was better..NOT!!!
It is the brain, the Brain, the BRAIN Cabal's brain does not function at the NFL level......Brock Purdy's brain does. Brock Purdy the last player picked in the draft...because he didn't have a big arm....wasn't a great runner...BUT Purdy had a NFL brain, and he went to the Super Bowl.
This whole this is outrageous. I've been watching the Bears for 30 years. Caleb is by far the best natural talent that we've seen come to the Bears at that position in that time. And he has shown flashes of that this season. But we're so desperate for a QB NOW that he was going to have to be the best ever QB in his Rookie year that the league has ever seen. Remember, Payton Mannings first year. Awful. Caleb hasn't thrown many picks. He hasn't given games away. Sure, he hasn't been explosive and it's easy to look at other QBs and go, well why isn't he playing like Daniels. He's not playing like Bryce Young. He's 10x the player Bryce is. He needs a line that will help him and a OC that gets him learning the details and guys open. He's made some special plays this year. Don't forget that. And he will do again. And if veteran players who haven't achieved much in the game in terms of team success (DJ Moore, Keenan Allen) are trying to get him benched - then they need benching themselves. That ain't leadership. That's being selfish. Help each other. Don't quit.
He came in with a chip on his shoulder and acted like he is the best ever to grace the draft stage. His team wanted ownership stake. He said to the punter that punting won't be needed. He said the team is bringing him in to shift to a passing game (shot at JF1). He walked into the best situation for a #1 pick in the history of NFL. He said he will throw for 4,000 yards in his first year. He was guaranteed to make Bears instantly better than where they were with JF1 who had half the team. And his attitude doesn't go well with the veterans, which has disrupted the locker room. So, please don't use the rookie excuse now. It's only for kids who know the difference between PAC 12 and NFL, are blessed to be drafted, respect team veterans, don't talk trash, and want to learn and put in the effort.
@@xjhkx And what if those team veterans are the ones apparently lollygagging in practice? Remember when DJ Moore said that Caleb was being "bossy"? Isn't the QB supposed to be the leader? If you see vets half assing it in practice and you say something about and those players get upset, good!
@xjhkx yes. He came in with a chip on his shoulder. You want that. He wants to win. We want to win. I want that from QB1. All the stuff he said like the punting thing, get over yourself if you're taking that seriously. He's a confident kid. Imagine if he'd say "oh boy, you're gonna be punting all the time". He wasn't talking trash to anyone on the team. He wants to win more than any QB I've seen in Chicago. I like that. I love that. I would follow him for sure. He knows he can't do this on his own. But he can't do it with people downing tools and pointing fingers either.
@@Bearskickass976 I wish more Bears fans had your attitude. These nutty Fields fans gave him 3 years and wanted more of the same, yet they're only willing to give Caleb 9 games? Why, because he paints his nails? Who gives a flying F about him painting his nails, it's such a stupid thing to get upset at.
@@caseysager655 realistic fans and not nutty Fields fan. Realistic fans knew that the team is trash and Fields never got a fair shot. His first season coaches knew halfway that they're getting fired. His second season was a tanking one. Third season was with the worst OC ever who changed his footwork. Never had an O-line and weapons except DJ in season 3. Caleb is in a far superior situation and has 54% completion and 72 rating if you take out Jaguars and Panthers games. He was supposed to be Mahomes. Him racking up stats against PAC 12 teams had everyone dreaming. Bryce Young is matching Caleb's completion % with half the team. Will Levis, Minshew, Andy Dalton, Flacco, and Drake Maye are doing better in less pocket time for inferior teams. The journeyman Malik Willis, has done much better in his 4 games. And Bears' O-line is ranked 16th by PFF so while it's bad it's not even in the bottom half.
Should have kept Justin Poles skin wasn’t think enough he went with the way everyone would have went he couldn’t see the flaws Caleb had was blind to them ignored them was so stuck up on getting his guy and impressing the media he set us years back I really think Marvin Olu would have did it you could have got cute traded back in the first round for a pass rusher waist of draft
Justin was due to get paid. Even mid QBs are getting ridiculous contracts these days. Do you think JF is worth a quarter billion dollars? How do you think a monster contract like that would affect the future of the team?
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Danny was on board with all of the Bears' horrible decisions.
Danny was wearing a Caleb Williams jersey while Justin Fields was still on the team. He deserves for Caleb to look like this.
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So not if but when Caleb turns it around you all will finally get it.
Fields a bench warmer go cheer for him in Pitt as Russ ipad holder
@@jedi4049We will while your nail painter get folded every single game
Caleb is getting benched soon. Two white men benching Caleb is BAD OPTICS. Now the Bears got a BLACK MAN OC. So Simple. 😃
to have a QB room of nothing but a rookie and an undrafted 2nd year QB is borderline malpractice
I will agree on that. They should have gotten at least a 5 year vet in there but instead they got 2 rookies and a second year
Borderline?
shouldve kept rypien
And so is having a horrible offensive line. Trading for Keenan Allen was a mistake. Should have used the resources instead on offensive line. I would have not used the 8th pick on Odunze either. I would have traded down with the pick up get both a receiver and maybe a second or third round Center or Offensive lineman
Danny was wrong all along
Williams is just an NFL Tweener. Not accurate enough from the pocket and not athletic enough to play out of pocket
I def think his athleticism is overhyped. He can move but he's not Kyler or Lamar. Shoot, he's not even JF when it comes to pure speed
His inaccuracy on some of those passes is shocking.
@@musume7723You act like a QB not having JF's speed is a surprise. JF is one of the fastest NFL QBS in history. His 40 time is the 6th fastest ever and he's barely slower than Lamar, Vick, Kyler to the point where it would be hard to even detect.
You have no idea what your talking about period
@@nathanshackelford7812a QB not having JF's speed isn't a surprise, but all I ever heard about Caleb was about how athletic he was.
And then I see him in the games and he kinda just seems kinda average
Danny looks like he hasn’t slept since Saturday due to the dysfunction of the Bears organization😂
Stg i was looking for this comment
Caleb is holding the ball longer than JF. JF could at least run. Caleb can’t. He is doing worst than any other QB drafted with him. We told Parkins JF was better but he didn’t listen. 😂
I heard Calib plays better in the cold and snow. He plays faster, and his passes become more accurate. Then the Bears won't need a punter.
Danny...Caleb got sacked 9x against the Patriots aka 1 of the worst teams in the league & a HORRIBLE defense. He hasn't played good against actual competition cuz thats where people judge him. His accuracy, lack of chemistry with DJ, his horrible deep ball & misses receivers open are a bunch of issues
For every 300-yard game Caleb has he has multiple barely 100 yard games. His stats look more like rushing stats than passing
Danny looks rougher than usual today .
I need Nick wright to look like that
He’s got the Caleb blues
@@yuvneshtheoneNick has Mahomes as his QB. He can be wrong about every other prediction and I promise you he will not be sad 😂
Being a man and looking at this video worrying about something like that says a lot about u, 👨❤️👨
He looks like he had to jump in the game and try to block for Caleb 😂
Yes. Caleb Williams is a failure. FS1 should consider firing this dopehead Danny as well.
Do you always judge players after 8 starts in thier rookie year?
How do you think the great quarterbacks of the past looked after 8 starts?
Seems like your reasoning is flawed...
Looks like the reports of Claeb being a diva were true. No one wants to play for him
I misread the title and thought it was should the Bears consider coaching Caleb Williams? I thought it was appropriate.
Why didn't they pick Jayden?
Jayden would have been bad here too
I would have never drafted Caleb. All he cared about in college was money. Transfers then quits midway through the season. Then before ever being drafted wanted ownership in the team. He’s the player that’s been told his whole life he’s so great that he never worked on his fundamentals. His struggles don’t surprise me at all. He’s not a dawg. He has no guts, he’s soft. On top of that it couldn’t happen to a better team with their ridiculous local sports media. They are so delusional.
Why are you hating so hard lil bro. Probably a packers fans with that last sentence
This aint hate this is straight facts he had one good season then quit because everyone claimed he was so good, he's never been told "no" in his life
So all of the analysts and draft specialists that were saying Caleb should be the overall first pick were wrong eh?
@ Merrill Hodge told the truth until all the analysts and draft specialists and the great ESPN made him walk it back. So yeah all the talking heads who repeat the same information as the next were indeed wrong.
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972Yes, they were all wrong and you should learn not to take everything they say as gospel.
Caleb Williams is the same POST HEISMAN & PRO DAY Caleb Williams.
Inaccurate past 15 yards and overthrown deep ball.
Unworthy of passing on the franchise altering draft haul, unworthy of the number one overall draft pick.
QB4 of the 2024 NFL Draft.
All this happened because, the fanbase, and part of the team wanted JUSTIN FIELDS, so there was no way they can get a vet to go with Caleb, also and most importantly, the Bears are stupid, QB wasn't what they needed, they could have sold high for Caleb Williams, say a team like the Rams, gotten back picks in this years draft and next years draft, fleeced another team, and filled up on more important parts of the Defense and Offensive line, but no they went for the splash pick, and kept team and ownership disfunction.
Not all the fanbase wanted JF. Not even close.
Just was also due to get paid. Even mid QBs are getting ridiculous contracts. Do you think giving Justin Fields $250,000,000.00 is a good idea? That's a big chunk of the salary cap. What do you think that would do to the future of the franchise?
@@joeshoe6184CW18 is already more expensive than JF1 contract ever was, not only is his rookie contract 4yr 40 mil vs JF 4yr 18 mil twice as much, I’m positive CW18 ain’t gonna give the Bears no discount when it come to that second contract
@@Agentlowe Justin's rookie deal was up this year. He was due to get Paid.
If Caleb looks mediocre after 3 years of starting like Justin did, you trade him and start over. Especially if you have the #1 pick. There aren't many GMs in the league that would keep a mid QB who's rookie contract is up when they hold the first pick in a good quarterback draft. It's just not smart.
@@joeshoe6184I’m just saying I feel like you could have gotten JF1 on a team friendly deal and traded back taken a franchise tackle, picked up other pieces and stopped this rinse and repeat cycle we’ve been stuck in.
@@Agentlowe you make good points, but my fear is that you pay Justin and end up like the Giants with Jones. Stuck.
The players always know. It's not about Tyson Bagent. It's about how bad Caleb is. Those players want to get paid and they know with Caleb they have no chance at putting up number.
Danny Parkins is the same type of scout that said Brady wasn't any good
Lol you mean all 32 nfl scouts as well correct?
Bagent is a way better QB, bench Caleb. You said Caleb had more talent than Jayden, and look how that turned out 😅😅😅
What have you seen of Bagent that makes him "way better", I cannot roll my eyes any harder.
@@caseysager655he played better than Caleb Williams in the preseason
So you think a second year undrafted QB who has started four games can teach Caleb anything? Ridiculous.
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972 Meathead fans man, that's all I can come up with.
You have to be f ing joking a undrafted QB is better than the number one over all pick? What a joke
Shoulda kept fields and got the haul
And pay him a quarter billion dollars? That's what even mid QBs get nowadays.
Pay JF $40,000,000.00 a year? No thanks.
@ could’ve gave fields a baker or Geno like deal also he had to spend the money anyway with the right drafting and trading down would be no need for Nate Davis Keenan Allen and a couple other vets all that salary could’ve went to fields 4 years 110 million with 70 guaranteed and filled all the wholes with the draft and had multiple frp for years to come
you make good points. Geno and Baker are on their second and third teams tho, maybe that's part of why they took less money.
Either way, JF is currently a backup, and I still like Caleb on a rookie deal.
@joeshoe6184 And save whatever Justin Fields market value would be twenty fold on the 12 top tier players added to the roster over the next three years on ROOKIE CONTRACTS FOR FIVE YEARS!
Not knowing this is proof that Chicago sports talk garbage is making the fan base dumber.
@scoesixtray2457 I'd like to see how you got to those numbers...
You could say that Caleb has more talent than purdy also but that doesn't make Caleb better. Bagent runs the offensive bro and reads better and makes quicker decisions. So what if he can't throw as hard or far. He's a Starter in the league he will get a shot somewhere
If CW is bad the rest of the year, I don't want to hear about coaching. Because if you say that this guy is bad too, then why didn't you give Waldron the full year?
Guy is a rookie. You gave the coach nine whole games? If the media didn't hype him up to be god, this wouldn't even be an issue. He is still trying to play like he did in college. He needs to not do that. If the coaches aren't trying to coach them out of that, that's a problem. If they are, then this is squarely on him.
The media SUCKS. Most people in the media thought Colorado was going to be awesome last year, Westbrook on the Lakers was the new Big 3, etc. They overhype everything.
I was in the Fields camp....BUT.... they went ahead and drafted Caleb.....then did absolutely NOTHING to make sure "their guy" has a good opportunity....no, they instead are ruining Caleb....the same way they ruined Justin Fields....no OL....no playbook highlighting the strengths of the players....nothing. So they used the excuse of Fields was never "our guy"....wonder what the excuse will be when they are dumping Caleb in the next couple years....nevermind, this whole regime will probably be gone...and the new regime will just say Caleb "wasn't our guy"
Only thing with fields is he played the exact way in Pittsburgh as he did in Chicago. He’ll make the occasional throw but teams fear his running. People forget fields fell down in the draft to 11 for the bears, he wasnt a 1-5 pick. I agree the media lives in in making hyperbolic statements for hot takes/shock jock headlines. Caleb is a rookie, makin rookie mistakes. Who would have thought? If we are holdin him to this standard then everyone would have cut peyton manning after his rookie season settin the int record
"Media" isn't some monolithic thing. There was a wide variety of opinions about Caleb.
Most of these shows choose people who have different opinions and let them debate. Take this show for example, they rarely agree about anything.
@@joeshoe6184yes but most of the media agreed/s on these things. There were ball knowers that said Colorado has no line play, LeBron needs 3andD guys, and Caleb doesn't have a long history of playing in structure. Everyone else was like BUT DEION, triple double HoFer, Caleb has the tools doesn't need to do what he did at USC.
Aaron Rodgers another good one. HE IS MOTIVATED ..but uh, he's old, didn't play well last year at GB, and is bringing in substandard talent.
Most people were sky high on all this stuff and were wrong. Not to say CW will be bad forever, but people were like CJ Stroud? That's the floor!
@ryanblosser6081 you do make good points.
Stroud looks pretty average this year, after being crowned by the majority of media and fans after an impressive rookie season.
Who knows the QB better than anyone?the offensive players......
I would bench Caleb ONLY to assure he avoid learning bad habits. And you don’t want to ruin his confidence
I would argue benching him after starting him could cause irreparable damage
@@mikeh4818he would probably loose the locker room especially if by some miracle they do better you just have to tuff it out
Yeah benching the #1 pick won’t ruin his confidence at all champ
confidence? he is a pro if he can’t take it, should not be pro
The "he's had good games" argument is interesting. It's true but it was against terrible competition. He's about to play a ton of divisional games and he'll play even worse, which barely seems possible.
The teams he had success against were bad but hes mad throws to receivers that were covered. He was taking the check down vs the rams. Someone has gotten into he head and now hes gun shy to throw it. Ill be at the green bay game so it will be my first time seeing the field in full live.
So you can see the future? How do you know he'll play worse?
Develop him all the media said he was NFL ready they need to watch the whole games
In my humble opinion, I believe that they should have kept Justin Fields for a little bit. It would have been easy for them to probably start Caleb, a little later than right from the beginning of the season
Justin Fields had to be removed for political reasons. Poles was trying to show Williams that there would be no QB competition
Danny is delusional. CW was terrible in college and terrible in the NFL. Bench him and hopes he learns to play QB by watching a professional.
@@marioc1836 And terrible at his Pro Day.
Pay attention to all of the overthrows
Cant wait to see Parkins admit he was wrong about Williams being the next Mahomes. Williams is suffering the same fate as Justin Fields, lack of pass protection and lack of good offensive coordinator
Except Fields found a way to become #2 All - Time in the Record Book & his cleats enshrined in the NFL HALL OF FAME.
That was in Fields first full season as Bears starting QB.
The same season Poles stripped the roster to the bare bones in order to tank/lose on purpose!
No excuses for Caleb Williams!
CW gave Danny the Human Pipe cleaner a jersey , could he be any more biased.
I’ve heard of Tyson and Im from Florida, he was pretty good when he did play
He had more turnovers than TDs.
Yes! He needs some bench,some humbling,some learning,maturing,he's too cocky.
What makes you think he's too cocky?
In the press conferences he seems pretty humble and willing to accept blame.
You’re a hater 😂😂 Get a life. Been around enough real and fake people to spot one
William is 🚮
Danny Parkinson's doesn't remember that Jamarcus Russell was so much more talented than Tom Brady to the point Jamarcus could throw a ball 70 yards from his knees. How many wins did that get him?
O Danny boy was okay with Tyson replacing Justin Fields last season.
* Chicago sports talk thought it would be good for Justin to watch Tyson and learn.
* Weasley Chris Collinsworth evejn said it during a national broadcast game.
Smh
I listen to Chicago sports radio every day, and no one called for Bagent to start over Feilds. NO ONE.
@@joeshoe6184Bull ****
@@scoesixtray2457 name one Chicago sports talk person that called for Bagent to start over Feilds. I listen to The Score every day, listening now in fact, and ESPN 1000 occasionally and watch the TV folks on RUclips pretty regularly. I don't remember a single one calling for Bagent over Feilds.
Cole Kmet has said the benching rumors are 100% false. Nobody approached the coaching staff about benching Caleb so forget that clickbait angle.
Meatball fans don't care about facts. They're just looking to confirm a previously held bias about Caleb.
@joeshoe6184 Caleb play on the field is giving those fans confirmation. RUclips videos just add fuel to the fire
@@thebigdubnetwork confirming that he looks like a rookie QB with a bad O line? It takes a couple seasons to really judge a QB. Look at Stroud, last year he was the second coming, this year he looks decidedly average. Payton Manning was terrible his rookie season. Yet some folks are ready to write Caleb off and crown Jayden Daniels after 8 games.
@@MisterMxyzptlk1972 do you really think that he’s gonna sit there and say that they’re not give me a break dude come on I’ll gullible are you that’s just stupid
Isn't it funny how from week one till now? Danny looks disheveled like he's lost his mind because of how the bears are playing
Caleb Fingernails Williams is a bust. When i saw him crying in mommy's lap and heard he painted his Fingernails is said he'll yes that's who I want leading my team. Whata a joke.
You seem very interested in other men's fingernails. Maybe you should consider a career as a male nail technician. You seem very passionate about it.
They need to clean house. The Bears messed up by not firing the head coach last year. They need an offensive minded coach ie Ben Johnson (Detroit Lions) or Kingsbury
Ben Johnson isn't taking this job.
@@ryanblosser6081Ben Johnson had to face Justin Fields twice a year. He'd come if Fields were QB1, not Caleb Williams.
If you can’t turn that talent into winning or even looking competent, it doesn’t mean anything. Start Bagent
Bruh bagent won’t do anything better, go watch the games last year.. he barely could beat the horrible panthers. Let Caleb play and develop like rookies should do
Bagent has more turnovers than TDs.
@ and Williams has a 38 QBR, good for 29th
The should consider which quarterback gives them a better chance to win the game period! So we have to lose each game until this guy develops?
I mean that is usually how it works
That's what the veterans are saying.
He’s overly confident meaning he’s overly emotional. This would hurt his feeling and I think it wouldn’t be good.
Should have kept Justin Poles skin wasn’t think enough he went with the way everyone would have went he couldn’t see the flaws Caleb had was blind to them ignored them was so stuck up on getting his guy and impressing the media he set us years back I really think Marvin Olu would have did it you could have got cute traded back in the first round for a pass rusher waist of draft
Do you think JF is worth a quarter billion dollars? Even mid QBs are getting ridiculous contracts these days.
$250,000,000.00 What do you think that does to the salary cap?
Mr Overbite is not qualified to quantify a QB’s skills. You think a guy that can’t beat Notre Dame, is going to excel against pros? He was Not the best player in college at his position, but went number 1 behind the hype. Caleb can not carry Justin’s pads or fill his shoes. JD would have been an obvious choice. The Bears wanted a soft QB. They didn’t want Justin. They also are not qualified to quantify a QB’s skills. They can’t see it! They have had a hundred years of not seeing it. If it was my job to talk about QBs, I would not use the Bears as a good example of knowing how to pick a QB, including how to quantify a QB’s skills
9 games in? JF is in year 4 and benched in a contract year.
@@Alexirongateweldingand still he never was this bad
@@BanksMaleekyea he was lol, guess you never watched bears games
@@BanksMaleek
Field sucks B
L-🤣-L
No, Williams should not be benched. Let's be honest here. The Bears are not good at developing quarterbacks. Nearly 30 different men have started as quarterback for a Bears game since 2000. Look it up. This includes "long" term quarterbacks such as Cutler, Grossman, Trubisky, Fields, Orton. For a variety of reasons they just are not good at developing quarterbacks. The Bears need a new coaching staff that will focus on developing Williams and getting him an O-line to help block better and improve the running game.
The way Danny looks when he talks pisses me off
You had to say this? Cheer up
Yea him and Nick wright have the most punchable faces when they say the stupidest things
The fans: Bears are so bad they have more punting yards than passing yards
The media: Bears drafted a Hall of Fame punter in the 4th round and the got Caleb too
Dj Moore is 100% behind benching Caleb Williams his attitude and demeanor says it all
DJ been acting like a diva. He just got paid ridiculous sums of money, he needs to do his job and stop undermining the team.
I can't wait to see Danny Parkins eat those words
Do the players in the locker room see something or know something? What are they saying about Caleb? I personally think we should see TB17 next week. Physically protect the kid.
Theres literally reports that the locker room vets want him benched 🤣🤣
Wouldnt want Caleb to get injured before trading him.
The fans hated Caleb from the moment he was drafted. They should trade him to a team that will embrace him.
Shid not all fans lbs it’s ok to be a JF fan and still want Caleb Williams 🤷🏿♂️
@@dojinobeats7430I would agree but that isn’t how Chicago fans have acted.
Man, these guys make the definition of clowns hello we did have veteran quarterbacks. The last two years on the roster and Tyson beat them out both years to become number two.
I want him to get bench only. Because it would be so funny and i also predicted it happening except i tought it would happen on week 9
Please don't bench him. We have 6 divisional games to go. Let the world see how amazing he is and how the Bears should give him ownership stake.
😂
Shoulda kept Fields and and used that pick elsewhere
Have you seen the kind of money that even mid QBs are getting these days?
Do you think JF is worth $50,000,000.00 a year? What do you think a quarter billion dollar contract does to the salary cap and the ability to sign free agents in the future?
@@joeshoe6184Have you seen how much money teams save by getting draft hauls & adding 3-4 TOP TIER PLAYERS to the roster for three straight years ON ROOKIE CONTRACTS FOR FIVE YEARS?
That covers Justin Fields market value twenty fold!
Not knowing this is proof Chicago sports talk media is making the fan base dumber!
@@scoesixtray2457 are you a trump supporter by chance? Just a hunch...
The word talent for Quarterback is just such an oddity of a way to describe it. Like they say Caleb has all this talent but what really is it. Someone please explain. What if Bagent is actually a better passer. They turn around and say Caleb is not all the accurate. Then so where is the talent if that is the case. Then it's not like he is even that good of a runner. Fields ran so much better and made way crazier plays. He could take that rock to the house. I don't think Caleb could do that unless he had to perfect situation where about 15 other QBs could do if given the same opportunity. Going back to talent. Would we consider Tom Brady a talented QB. What is talent at the QB position?? Caleb needs to show it in the NFL. He has not really so far. He's played decent. But now starting to play poorly. I want to see how he will play versus good defenses now and more talented teams
Time to let go of JF, he had one amazing year with his LEGS and the team was terrible. He isn't the guy and was never going to be the guy. I've seen Caleb make throws this year that JF couldn't even dream of making. CW's biggest issue is consistency and hopefully a change in coaching will help. If it doesn't then the Bears start over again before his rookie contract is up and try to find another player at THE most important position in the sport.
@@caseysager655Justin Fields "wouldn't dream" of overthrowing DJ Moore & those other weapons Caleb Williams is wasting.
@@caseysager655Fact is: send Caleb Williams to the Steelers and he's QB3 behind Russell Wilson and
10 Touchdowns
1 Interception
93.9 QBR
IN SIX GAMES!
Justin Fields
Facts!
Teams need to start sitting QBs when they aren't ready again.
Definitely don’t bench Caleb. He’s a rookie expected to play like a veteran. I think you get rid of the HC. Now that Chicago fired their OC Caleb has to learn another system which is confusing to a rookie. Chicago ruins young QB’s.
LOOK AT THE CARDINALS AND KYLER
HE LOOKS FANTASTIC WITH A RUNNING GAME
Definitely bench CW and give him time to watch and learn. Start fresh next year
Y'all saying he needs a backup QB now wow every excuse
Backups have a better pocket presence compared to Williams!
Its never been caleb or fields. The problem is the offensive line and coaching
RG3 had more talent than kirk cousins
You really need to stop using music from Nick's Tiers!
Bagent deserves a chance!
I thinks its being discussed because The Bears don't have a strating O-line
Neither do the Patriots and they have zero talent at WR, yet Maye still looks substantially better. CW is making the line look worse than they are. He’s holding onto the ball entirely too long.
They talk about the bears a lot for being a mid team. Or maybe they only post the clip about the bears on RUclips?
Negativity and dysfunction makes for better TV.
The dopehead on the right claimed Caleb and the Bears were super bowl contenders and got a job at FS1 for his lies. Now he's looking more stupid by blaming everyone else for Caleb's failures and its hilarious to watch.
There in lies on of the biggest problems… Stop stamping these rookie with this “generational narrative”… it’s not fair, because everyone is over expecting from the rookie how you and Danny’s being the biggest CW cheerleader is the main one pushing it..
You obviously can’t bench the 1st overall pick of the draft. The players do think that they’d be at least 7-2 with Tyson Bagent this year.
No player thinks that Tyson bagent sucks 🤣
They definitely don’t think that.
this is what happens when the fans torch and hate on their own draft pick the entire offseason before he even plays a game. The dude has no confidence because the city hates him. Chicago fans being poverty as usual 😂
No, Cole Kmet has said nobody approached the coaching staff about benching Caleb. It didn't happen, and you can stop worrying about it.
The Bears are staring at a record for the season of somewhere between 6 and 11 at best and 4 and 13 ar worse
Bears watch! "ohh my god" lol
Bagent is better than Williams, if you keep playing the generational bust it’s gonna ruin your already demoralized team 🤣
Bagent has more turnovers than TDs. He looked mediocre at best last year.
No all the Bears need is a new Nails designed for Caleb and she’ll be fine.
You're very interested in other men's fingernails. Maybe you should consider a career as a men's nail technician.
Nothing great is coming for a long time, if ever. Incompetent franchise.
what happened to all that making unprecedneded demands pre-draft as if he was next mahomes , demanding owning a percentage of the team, and bro arrogance that hought his painted nails would set the next generational trend. i use the term bro loosely
YOU DON'T KNOW HOW GOOD TYSON BAGENT IS*
He has more turnovers than TDs.
Last year DJ Moore set career highs with Justin Fields in catches, yards and TDs..don't tell me Caleb Williams is better than Justin..numbers and chemistry don't lie. Resons why Poles let Justin go is because he didn't want to pay him ( Poles is very cheap GM) and he THOUGHT Williams was better..NOT!!!
This is not even true
Caleb has been a disaster! Compared to what he is supposed to be with the great situation of 2 #1 WRS! He is currently a disaster!
Caleb is STEAMIN WILLIE BEAMIN....and the bears team is treatn him just like it... letn him take his licks
YES
Bears are in dysfunction and Aaron Rodgers and the Jets are crashing. Packers fans are eating good this season.
Yes
Go ahead ruin another QB.
It is the brain, the Brain, the BRAIN
Cabal's brain does not function at the NFL level......Brock Purdy's brain does.
Brock Purdy the last player picked in the draft...because he didn't have a big arm....wasn't a great runner...BUT Purdy had a NFL brain, and he went to the Super Bowl.
This whole this is outrageous. I've been watching the Bears for 30 years. Caleb is by far the best natural talent that we've seen come to the Bears at that position in that time. And he has shown flashes of that this season. But we're so desperate for a QB NOW that he was going to have to be the best ever QB in his Rookie year that the league has ever seen. Remember, Payton Mannings first year. Awful. Caleb hasn't thrown many picks. He hasn't given games away. Sure, he hasn't been explosive and it's easy to look at other QBs and go, well why isn't he playing like Daniels. He's not playing like Bryce Young. He's 10x the player Bryce is. He needs a line that will help him and a OC that gets him learning the details and guys open. He's made some special plays this year. Don't forget that. And he will do again. And if veteran players who haven't achieved much in the game in terms of team success (DJ Moore, Keenan Allen) are trying to get him benched - then they need benching themselves. That ain't leadership. That's being selfish. Help each other. Don't quit.
He came in with a chip on his shoulder and acted like he is the best ever to grace the draft stage. His team wanted ownership stake. He said to the punter that punting won't be needed. He said the team is bringing him in to shift to a passing game (shot at JF1). He walked into the best situation for a #1 pick in the history of NFL. He said he will throw for 4,000 yards in his first year. He was guaranteed to make Bears instantly better than where they were with JF1 who had half the team. And his attitude doesn't go well with the veterans, which has disrupted the locker room. So, please don't use the rookie excuse now. It's only for kids who know the difference between PAC 12 and NFL, are blessed to be drafted, respect team veterans, don't talk trash, and want to learn and put in the effort.
@@xjhkx And what if those team veterans are the ones apparently lollygagging in practice? Remember when DJ Moore said that Caleb was being "bossy"? Isn't the QB supposed to be the leader? If you see vets half assing it in practice and you say something about and those players get upset, good!
@xjhkx yes. He came in with a chip on his shoulder. You want that. He wants to win. We want to win. I want that from QB1. All the stuff he said like the punting thing, get over yourself if you're taking that seriously. He's a confident kid. Imagine if he'd say "oh boy, you're gonna be punting all the time". He wasn't talking trash to anyone on the team. He wants to win more than any QB I've seen in Chicago. I like that. I love that. I would follow him for sure. He knows he can't do this on his own. But he can't do it with people downing tools and pointing fingers either.
@@Bearskickass976 I wish more Bears fans had your attitude. These nutty Fields fans gave him 3 years and wanted more of the same, yet they're only willing to give Caleb 9 games? Why, because he paints his nails? Who gives a flying F about him painting his nails, it's such a stupid thing to get upset at.
@@caseysager655 realistic fans and not nutty Fields fan. Realistic fans knew that the team is trash and Fields never got a fair shot. His first season coaches knew halfway that they're getting fired. His second season was a tanking one. Third season was with the worst OC ever who changed his footwork. Never had an O-line and weapons except DJ in season 3. Caleb is in a far superior situation and has 54% completion and 72 rating if you take out Jaguars and Panthers games. He was supposed to be Mahomes. Him racking up stats against PAC 12 teams had everyone dreaming.
Bryce Young is matching Caleb's completion % with half the team. Will Levis, Minshew, Andy Dalton, Flacco, and Drake Maye are doing better in less pocket time for inferior teams. The journeyman Malik Willis, has done much better in his 4 games. And Bears' O-line is ranked 16th by PFF so while it's bad it's not even in the bottom half.
Fake reports
Danny guy is a joke
DEPRESSING! Well said Danny!
Danny has never said anything well
OMG get off the Tyson fan club. He’s a good backup, but he’s not a starting QB!
they don't want caleb to die
He's trash his own teammates want him benched. Caleb likes to wear dresses and paint his nails give me a break.
Noooooo. He is a rookie quarterback.
Should have kept Justin Poles skin wasn’t think enough he went with the way everyone would have went he couldn’t see the flaws Caleb had was blind to them ignored them was so stuck up on getting his guy and impressing the media he set us years back I really think Marvin Olu would have did it you could have got cute traded back in the first round for a pass rusher waist of draft
Justin was due to get paid. Even mid QBs are getting ridiculous contracts these days. Do you think JF is worth a quarter billion dollars? How do you think a monster contract like that would affect the future of the team?