Good job covering this well gents. Boxing is for everyone and women deserve a safe space to learn how to 1. Protect themselves and 2. get to experience the great sport we all love. These coaches are trash and deserve to be exposed.
@@zerocontrol8735 I'd rather she show proof. I'll never punish someone without proof. I've learned my lesson. Never let righteous anger push you to make a rash decision
People are just creeps. Yes, she looks good and seems like a nice person to be arround, but that doesnt mean you have to drag her to bed. Its disgusting and unproffesional.
You know what, I honestly never cared for her. But every time I read comments like yours it makes me want to view these girls as objects.going to check what kind of fap tribute they got for her.
@@snowforest6487 No. He was suggesting she use a vibrator, they tell men not to cum at all. He was being really fucking weird and oversexualized her to a degree that probably constitutes harassment.
I’m so glad you two are speaking on this. It’s not just the losing focus for the fight, but as a woman, it’s downright scary. You become afraid to train, afraid to go to the gym… you almost expect this. It messes with you more than you could imagine. Creepy and scary.
The crazy thing is that this occurs even in just regular training (weight lifting, etc.) The amount of stories and even experience I’ve seen with some coaches/trainers with women is very concerning. Hats off to Faith for enduring that and still showing up. Glad she spoke up
Surprised that no one in the crossover scene talked about it, the clip of her talking about it was in the influencer boxing Twitter space but barely anyone mentioned it.
@@Twofacex2 yup it's a shame that so much of this gets looked at and ignored.good on wade and sensei! hopefully they take a look at males sneaking their way into the female fight space currently in kingpyn aswell..
I feel bad for her.. imagine starting something new in life and being taken advantage of by someone you went to for some sort of support. Hope she finds the right people to put around her
Thank you for sharing her story. It’s extremely disheartening that this is not being discussed anywhere else. These people are everywhere and people need to be aware and alert.
Thank you guys for talking about this. Thank you thank you thank you. I’ve been wanting to join a boxing gym for a while now but haven’t because I’m scared of situations like these. Lord know how many times that I’ve already left a community, friend group, or job because someone made me uncomfortable. It’s so important that men talk about harassment and publicly denounce it so that other people know that it’s wrong and that they can’t get away with it. I deeply appreciate y’all taking the time to have this conversation.
I feel bad for Faith because you can definitely see her potential. The fact she had to deal with situations like this is so saddening. Martial Arts/ Boxing is such a hard discipline already, so when you get into that sphere you want to do so with the confidence that you're there to train and learn. I hope that that coach does get exposed. Faith is a beast bro. I train at a small martial arts gym and the school is probably 50/50 split between male and females, I will emphasize that it's small. There is trust between everyone in the classes as well as the coaches. I hope Faith can find a gym like that.
@@lsd-rickb-1728 YES. Man STFU. If you cant control yourself, you arent a man. You are a weakass punk. Get a control on yourself, your life. This isnt even a joke, if you are trying to. Stop embarrassing men, the real men.
Ive watched for years and have never commented but I feel the need to say good for Faith for coming forward about this and great work using your platform guys to push this further.
p disgusting situation that happens too often. It happened at my old school with a coach and some female basketball players, Im no white knight but its mad uncomfortable to see older dudes in these positions with much younger girls try to take advantage of the situation
The fact that she still went out there and did the event like nothing happened is amazing. She is a strong person, I hope she returns with the proper team .
The guy mixed the story up a little bit. It wasn't the first coach who said stay away from boys and get a toy. It was the second coach the same 60 years old who wanted her to go in his bed.
Really glad you guys have brought attention to this, disgusting that people have to go through this in an environment that’s meant to be motivating, empowering and overall something that should be a positive experience. Hopefully those coaches get exposed so no other influencers or people in general have to deal with that bs.
very sad to hear that Faith had to deal with that, i can't imagine wanting to box and having that stripped from you because you're unable to trust those who are supposed to help you. people heavily underestimate the struggles women face compared to men when it comes to being sexualized, often countering with "men get sexualized by women too" which is true but not anywhere NEAR the level women are. it's a huge problem with the world and it's very sad that we're seemingly not progressing anywhere.
you got it a bit wrong, the first coach you guys talked about wasn't the guy who told her to find something else to pleasure herself with. As far as I understand that was still the second coach, she dropped the first coach because his training and motivating methods didn't align with hers
I’m glad you guys talked about this, from the tiktok video Faith posted it seemed like she was getting no support in the comments besides people saying “coach 1 was right, you’re shit” and not acknowledging what she went through. Hopefully now she’ll feel like she has some support and people that got her back. Aswell as hopefully something like this doesn’t happen to another female influencer.
I think comments were saying more of how she should have stayed with coach 1 cause him being strict would make her a good fighter. Either way we really can’t say anything cause we don’t know in detail what that coach was doing. Most important think anyway is that faith has a coach she trusts if she wishes to continue influencer boxing.
No excuses I'm her father. This happened 1 month before the fight and she had to scramble to get a coach. They went in with no game plan other then stay behind the jab. She did spar but spared boxer types rather then brawler types which everyone knows that was what type of fight she was in for
Sorry your daughter had to go through that. She still showed a lot of bravery to accept that adversity and enter the ring in a foreign country for her first time.
The wild thing is stuff like this happens in all forms of martial arts. Ask any woman at your gym and I’m sure they have a story of some creep they trained with or a creepy coach
It’s crazy that this is the first time I’m hearing anyone associated with Misfits talk about this. What she endured AND STILL showed up for her fight is absolutely insane. No one trying a new sport should face hurdles that are this traumatic/impactful. Hopefully if she’s looking to continue, she can reach out to find a new coach, and if any other women are facing this they can do the same!
Watched the video. The way I interpreted it was that the 1st coach was a strict one that probably only had the intention to make her a better fighter but didn't realise or have the social awareness to see he was making inappropriate comments. I get why she left him despite his intentions probably not actually being bad. However the 2nd guy tried taking advantage of her in a vulnerable position. Needs to be exposed and named so he doesn't have the chance to act like that with other women. Like you guys said at the end, hope she can find a coach who isn't inappropriate and genuinely has intentions of helping her be a good influencer boxer. Would be great if other boxing influencers could perhaps reach out to her. I know Ana Sobonja's coach is that coach staff guy who has been involved in influencer boxing before, he could perhaps be a good guy for it.
Thank you breakdown boys for talking about this issue the way you did, and encouraging people to talk about it more. Seeing you both genuinely be upset over the fact that someone would do this is great. As a woman I really appreciate you being able to stand up for us and be angry about it with us.
I want Faith to box again, out of every girl we've seen so far it genuinely looked like she was cracking so hard as her technique was cleanish. If she tightened up her defence, I think she was clear of Elle. Watched her live her punches were like shotguns.
...? Rewatch that fight, she had some good shots for sure but there were a lot of shit shots and flaps. Elle mostly kept it straight and cracked harder than faith
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616 yeah just did hahahaha, I was mostly wrong. Her 1 2 was nice but, stayed in the pocket for way too long and didnt use her range at all.
@@Athoughfulproposition yeah no offense to her but she looked pretty bad, promising start but she's gotta do a lot of work. Especially as she had been training for like a year before that fight as she had a few others that fell through.
I will never understand why people or someone with a certain amount of fame or power find it so hard to just be normal like life is so much easier if you're just a decent human being 😑
Well done for speaking out on the gross behaviour. The promoters have played a role too. They’ve employed lots of women but 90% are onlyfans girls, creating a weird sexualisation around female influencer boxing. No excuse for the behaviour tho of course
Guys, can we just pretend Faith is a man for a second? The first coach that suggested she "beat off" to build the batch is a woman (which coaches suggest regularly... apparently they cant to women though). The second coach is a female coach who hints at wanting to start a relationship. Can you IMAGINE anyone giving a flying f#$% about either of these situations if Faith was a man and the coaches were a female? Can you imagine ANY man saying, "i might not box again cause .... ". We would ridicule him mercilessly and it would be mentioned by his opponent before every fight for the rest of his career. Why do we treat women with these kitty gloves while also pretending like they the same as men? Men and women are different. Neither is better or worse. They're simply different and this trend in 2023 of blurring that line in these ridiculous ways is going to be the start of the downfall of civilization.
I think if a guy said it he will still get support but at a lesser magnitude which I guess lines up with the main point you are making. Can you explain your last sentence in detail though?
I’m glad you guys talked about this because I had no idea this happened. I feel bad for that woman. I follow Faith I became a fan of her. She has such a bubbly personality and she was still dealing with that. She could have easily mention that as soon as she loss but she didn’t use it as an excuse and didn’t rain on Elle’s parade. Men like that disgust me bro I’m glad she safe though she was in that guy’s house it could have gone way worst. It’s sad bro hope to see her in the ring again but I understand if she chooses not too and I’ll support her either way.
Thank you for covering this. This is a major problem for combat sports. Not just that it doesn't get talked about. But when it does get talked about, the community closes ranks and sides with the abusers! In BJJ this happened. Claudia Do Val. Top tier female competitor at the black belt level. Years in the sport. All around badass. She comes out and talks about manipulation and inappropriate behaviour she suffered, at the hands of Ricardo De La Riva. Hair instructor, And a man old enough to be her father. What did she get? Well she got dragged through the mud, basically. And the sport establishment rallying round one of their living legends.
That must feel terrible imagine trying some new challenge to empower yourself and then you find out the people who offer to help you through that journey don’t actually care about you and they only see you as a sexual object they can take advantage of the coach should at the very least lose his job and I hope she doesn’t quit because of this sick individual
Man, I've watched sensei for a long time and I must say he's just a great human being. I have this realization each time. Great to bring this to light, what a horrible thing to happen
I've been following Faith since she said in a interview or something that Fangs was disgusting and shameful for having an OF... personally, I have a lot of respect for what Faith said about that situation. Faith is unwilling to take any BS. I hate I know this is true but I can almost guarantee some other female influencer boxers are dealing with inappropriate treatment but are just putting up with it and are willing to take some abuse and go along with whatever happens all for money and fame. I hope that Misfits, Kingpyn, and all the other orgs take this very seriously and get actually get rid of the trainers who were involved and make a statement out of this so it doesn't continue to happen. Although it seems like this problem exists in every industry and not just influencer boxing. I hope one day men and women can do better together
Just be careful guys, innocent until proven guilty though. Don't let emotions controll you. Hopefully this makes her aware of what can happen and stronger as a person, no one should go through what she says.
I hadn’t heard or seen anything about this beforehand (tbf I rarely use social media), but this is super sad to see Nobody should ever have to deal with stuff like that
@@terryfaulcer9052 You’re disgusting and you’re probably the same way with women lol you incel. Imagine you have an adult sister or daughter who wants to compete in boxing and the coach is making sexual advances and suggesting she pleasure herself with toys. These aren’t just “words” are you dense? These coaches should just focus on teaching them about boxing.
This video shows the true character of wade and sensei, great dudes that truly care about people and this sport. It’s such a shame to see what’s happening to these females… I pray that they can heal from this :(
When I wanted to try influencer boxing, I went for a month but the coach was so bad and obviously suffering for some type of cte. He would take a shot of bleach everyday to stay “healthy” also would try to spray febreze in boxer mouths. Just a bad environment overall.
sickos honestly big up to faith for speaking up hopefully she can continue boxing but for now she needs take time krazy world we live in stay strong faith and thanks to the breakdown for standing for her ❤💪🏼
Faith, just from the outside looking in, seems like such a chill good person and it's really messed up this occured. I wish someone with the heart of Faze Sensei could work with her because she seems to have a ton of potential.
Exactly, we need to stand up for women. I'm totally going to the women's march after hearing this and I'm going to wear 3 p-hats! Thanks for waking me up guys...I mean ya'll
As much as I love Wade and everybody else I hear the same comments from you guys talking about l Brook and the other girls not to that degree but there is some comments that are on the line
SMH I train with women, and I always do my best to make sure they feel safe and not preyed upon. Not only is it unprofessional, you shouldn't sh!t where you eat. Bad look all round
@thebreakdownSW wade can you please discuss this on main channel... No offence but the breakdown doesn't have that level of audience for now.. it would be better if it reached to more and more people..
At the end of the day there's no proof of this taking place and I don't understand the issue with suggesting an alternative to seeking out male counterparts during camp if that was true anyway
There really is no way to prove what she was saying is true. All she said about the first coach was that he was really strict with her and she didn’t like it. And the main problem with the 2nd one, literally no one can testify too because faith and him were supposedly alone
The first story, if said casually could just be a coach seeing a fighter not a woman and being like “do what you have to do to keep your head in the game but don’t waste time going on dates when you should be training”. BUT saying that, I still think it’s pretty fucking odd. Defo wouldn’t say it for myself. It’s particularly weird if he went into details of what to buy etc. like that shits just not right, but otherwise I could see how that could be quick-laddy-no-bullshit-talk. However the 2nd story is very creepy. No two ways about it. It sucks that female fighters have to deal with coaches who have other things on their mind. It’s defo something I haven’t thought about before and feel bad for them
Good job covering this well gents. Boxing is for everyone and women deserve a safe space to learn how to 1. Protect themselves and 2. get to experience the great sport we all love. These coaches are trash and deserve to be exposed.
I wish she said their names so people would avoid them
Fax
@@zerocontrol8735
I'd rather she show proof. I'll never punish someone without proof. I've learned my lesson. Never let righteous anger push you to make a rash decision
Preach
Innocent until proven guilty? Do u guys forget that
People are just creeps. Yes, she looks good and seems like a nice person to be arround, but that doesnt mean you have to drag her to bed. Its disgusting and unproffesional.
Fax
You know what, I honestly never cared for her. But every time I read comments like yours it makes me want to view these girls as objects.going to check what kind of fap tribute they got for her.
You’re sexualizing her
@@windolite If me saying that she's attractive and looks like a nice person is sexualizing her, then I dont know what else to say.
It's funny how Faith says thatruclips.net/video/IWbdEOUarY0/видео.html
This should never happen to anyone. Truly inappropriate and unexceptional behavior from those coaches
The first coach was trying to talk to her like he talks to the men. He made a mistake to treat her the exact same as the men
@@snowforest6487 No. He was suggesting she use a vibrator, they tell men not to cum at all. He was being really fucking weird and oversexualized her to a degree that probably constitutes harassment.
@@snowforest6487 they want that no?
Omg nooooo, a guy tried having sex with a girl!!😲 f*cking nuts! Call the police!
@@Sw1sher95 it's funny how he calls this out but is best friends with Ksi who makes fun of victims
I’m so glad you two are speaking on this. It’s not just the losing focus for the fight, but as a woman, it’s downright scary. You become afraid to train, afraid to go to the gym… you almost expect this. It messes with you more than you could imagine. Creepy and scary.
The crazy thing is that this occurs even in just regular training (weight lifting, etc.) The amount of stories and even experience I’ve seen with some coaches/trainers with women is very concerning. Hats off to Faith for enduring that and still showing up. Glad she spoke up
As a fitness coach myself, I see quite a few guys who get the job for the opportunity to get with women. It’s gross as fuck
Fax
Lmao Here comes all the “As a TraIner myself” lol you play pokemon lol only Trainer you have is your Pokédex Holders lol shut yo ass up lol
Pat Barry and Rose Namajunas :/
@@thejaded 😂 That story is just the weirdest shit
Respect for you guys to bring this to light. Horrible what she and potentially other females have to go through
yes these gentlemen are the best!
Surprised that no one in the crossover scene talked about it, the clip of her talking about it was in the influencer boxing Twitter space but barely anyone mentioned it.
@@Twofacex2 yup it's a shame that so much of this gets looked at and ignored.good on wade and sensei! hopefully they take a look at males sneaking their way into the female fight space currently in kingpyn aswell..
@@robzombie6543 you talking about that Jully girl?
@@Twofacex2 yes
I feel bad for her.. imagine starting something new in life and being taken advantage of by someone you went to for some sort of support. Hope she finds the right people to put around her
Big ups to Faith for speaking out, and big ups to the boys for bringing light to it.
Thank you for sharing her story. It’s extremely disheartening that this is not being discussed anywhere else. These people are everywhere and people need to be aware and alert.
Big respect to you guys for shining a light on this issue.
Really messed up that she and many other women in boxing have had to go through that
It’s such an awful feeling to be hurt and made to feel uncomfortable by someone you trust. Shoutout to Faith. ♥️
Thank you guys for talking about this. Thank you thank you thank you. I’ve been wanting to join a boxing gym for a while now but haven’t because I’m scared of situations like these. Lord know how many times that I’ve already left a community, friend group, or job because someone made me uncomfortable. It’s so important that men talk about harassment and publicly denounce it so that other people know that it’s wrong and that they can’t get away with it. I deeply appreciate y’all taking the time to have this conversation.
I feel bad for Faith because you can definitely see her potential. The fact she had to deal with situations like this is so saddening. Martial Arts/ Boxing is such a hard discipline already, so when you get into that sphere you want to do so with the confidence that you're there to train and learn. I hope that that coach does get exposed. Faith is a beast bro. I train at a small martial arts gym and the school is probably 50/50 split between male and females, I will emphasize that it's small. There is trust between everyone in the classes as well as the coaches. I hope Faith can find a gym like that.
Could you blame them tho
@@lsd-rickb-1728 YES. Man STFU. If you cant control yourself, you arent a man. You are a weakass punk. Get a control on yourself, your life. This isnt even a joke, if you are trying to. Stop embarrassing men, the real men.
@@lsd-rickb-1728 People like u should rot ngl
@Melxdyyy bruh she's beautiful women. She's very tempting and it's hard to control sometimes you know
@@lsd-rickb-1728 no i dont know fuck off you weak huma
Ive watched for years and have never commented but I feel the need to say good for Faith for coming forward about this and great work using your platform guys to push this further.
p disgusting situation that happens too often. It happened at my old school with a coach and some female basketball players, Im no white knight but its mad uncomfortable to see older dudes in these positions with much younger girls try to take advantage of the situation
You are a white knight.
yeah I hate that shit
The fact that she still went out there and did the event like nothing happened is amazing. She is a strong person, I hope she returns with the proper team .
Thanks for covering this. I had no idea this happened. Those coaches suck. Coaches are meant to empower and build trust with the people they train.
The guy mixed the story up a little bit. It wasn't the first coach who said stay away from boys and get a toy. It was the second coach the same 60 years old who wanted her to go in his bed.
You two are real gentlemen, respect to the both of you
Sensei especially, basically the only in the crossover scene that noticed this and decided to talk about it
Fax
Faith reminds me of austin, someone who lost their fight by stoppage but picked up the sport fast and fought one of the best
Thank you for talking about this, this is pretty wild and that shit shouldn't be swept under the rug
Really glad you guys have brought attention to this, disgusting that people have to go through this in an environment that’s meant to be motivating, empowering and overall something that should be a positive experience. Hopefully those coaches get exposed so no other influencers or people in general have to deal with that bs.
Good job boys y’all are the real men it’s good to know guys like y’all are out there more are definitely needed in this scene🙏🏾
It is amazing you guys touch on this topic, bringing this to light not only for Faith but all females in all areas of sports, work and overall life!
This is a rly important video. Thank you guys for boosting this story
glad u guys putting awareness on this situation feel so bad for her
Sensei just seems like a good coach but this take right here shows he’s a great coach the man gets it
very sad to hear that Faith had to deal with that, i can't imagine wanting to box and having that stripped from you because you're unable to trust those who are supposed to help you.
people heavily underestimate the struggles women face compared to men when it comes to being sexualized, often countering with "men get sexualized by women too" which is true but not anywhere NEAR the level women are.
it's a huge problem with the world and it's very sad that we're seemingly not progressing anywhere.
you got it a bit wrong, the first coach you guys talked about wasn't the guy who told her to find something else to pleasure herself with. As far as I understand that was still the second coach, she dropped the first coach because his training and motivating methods didn't align with hers
thank you so much for speaking on this. Its appreciated, probably more than you know.
I’m glad you guys talked about this, from the tiktok video Faith posted it seemed like she was getting no support in the comments besides people saying “coach 1 was right, you’re shit” and not acknowledging what she went through.
Hopefully now she’ll feel like she has some support and people that got her back. Aswell as hopefully something like this doesn’t happen to another female influencer.
I think comments were saying more of how she should have stayed with coach 1 cause him being strict would make her a good fighter. Either way we really can’t say anything cause we don’t know in detail what that coach was doing.
Most important think anyway is that faith has a coach she trusts if she wishes to continue influencer boxing.
Shoutout to you guys bringing this awareness🙌🏽 vile comments to make!
Thank you guys for talking about this, very few of us would have known without you bringing attention to it, I know Faith appreciates it too!
No excuses I'm her father. This happened 1 month before the fight and she had to scramble to get a coach. They went in with no game plan other then stay behind the jab. She did spar but spared boxer types rather then brawler types which everyone knows that was what type of fight she was in for
Sorry your daughter had to go through that. She still showed a lot of bravery to accept that adversity and enter the ring in a foreign country for her first time.
The wild thing is stuff like this happens in all forms of martial arts. Ask any woman at your gym and I’m sure they have a story of some creep they trained with or a creepy coach
Great video guys unfortunate for Faith to go through something ridiculous like that
Im glad yall can bring notice to this
Great coverage of such an important topic guys well done it’s disgusting this is still happening
It’s crazy that this is the first time I’m hearing anyone associated with Misfits talk about this. What she endured AND STILL showed up for her fight is absolutely insane. No one trying a new sport should face hurdles that are this traumatic/impactful. Hopefully if she’s looking to continue, she can reach out to find a new coach, and if any other women are facing this they can do the same!
Watched the video. The way I interpreted it was that the 1st coach was a strict one that probably only had the intention to make her a better fighter but didn't realise or have the social awareness to see he was making inappropriate comments. I get why she left him despite his intentions probably not actually being bad.
However the 2nd guy tried taking advantage of her in a vulnerable position. Needs to be exposed and named so he doesn't have the chance to act like that with other women.
Like you guys said at the end, hope she can find a coach who isn't inappropriate and genuinely has intentions of helping her be a good influencer boxer. Would be great if other boxing influencers could perhaps reach out to her. I know Ana Sobonja's coach is that coach staff guy who has been involved in influencer boxing before, he could perhaps be a good guy for it.
Thank you breakdown boys for talking about this issue the way you did, and encouraging people to talk about it more. Seeing you both genuinely be upset over the fact that someone would do this is great. As a woman I really appreciate you being able to stand up for us and be angry about it with us.
This is why I come back everyday to look at the breakdown genuine people that love the sport of boxing!
I want Faith to box again, out of every girl we've seen so far it genuinely looked like she was cracking so hard as her technique was cleanish. If she tightened up her defence, I think she was clear of Elle. Watched her live her punches were like shotguns.
...? Rewatch that fight, she had some good shots for sure but there were a lot of shit shots and flaps. Elle mostly kept it straight and cracked harder than faith
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616 yeah just did hahahaha, I was mostly wrong. Her 1 2 was nice but, stayed in the pocket for way too long and didnt use her range at all.
@@Athoughfulproposition yeah no offense to her but she looked pretty bad, promising start but she's gotta do a lot of work. Especially as she had been training for like a year before that fight as she had a few others that fell through.
@@flyingfrogofdeath9616 it was her first fight with a coach she’s had for 2-3 weeks in a foreign country at the age of 21, cut her some slack
@@Twofacex2 still, a year experience behind that did not show at all. I had 14 months training and beat a 7-0 amateur in my first amateur bout
I will never understand why people or someone with a certain amount of fame or power find it so hard to just be normal like life is so much easier if you're just a decent human being 😑
Can you really blame them tho? I mean look at her very delicious meat
@lsd-rickb-1728 faith is beautiful but it's easy to not be a pig
Well done for speaking out on the gross behaviour. The promoters have played a role too. They’ve employed lots of women but 90% are onlyfans girls, creating a weird sexualisation around female influencer boxing. No excuse for the behaviour tho of course
100%
Nice
Guys, can we just pretend Faith is a man for a second? The first coach that suggested she "beat off" to build the batch is a woman (which coaches suggest regularly... apparently they cant to women though). The second coach is a female coach who hints at wanting to start a relationship. Can you IMAGINE anyone giving a flying f#$% about either of these situations if Faith was a man and the coaches were a female? Can you imagine ANY man saying, "i might not box again cause .... ". We would ridicule him mercilessly and it would be mentioned by his opponent before every fight for the rest of his career.
Why do we treat women with these kitty gloves while also pretending like they the same as men? Men and women are different. Neither is better or worse. They're simply different and this trend in 2023 of blurring that line in these ridiculous ways is going to be the start of the downfall of civilization.
I think if a guy said it he will still get support but at a lesser magnitude which I guess lines up with the main point you are making.
Can you explain your last sentence in detail though?
thats terrible what happened to her.
she needs to go to a better professional gym to avoid situations like this.
Thank you guys for talking about this.. especially being males.
I’m glad you guys talked about this because I had no idea this happened. I feel bad for that woman. I follow Faith I became a fan of her. She has such a bubbly personality and she was still dealing with that. She could have easily mention that as soon as she loss but she didn’t use it as an excuse and didn’t rain on Elle’s parade. Men like that disgust me bro I’m glad she safe though she was in that guy’s house it could have gone way worst. It’s sad bro hope to see her in the ring again but I understand if she chooses not too and I’ll support her either way.
It's really heart breaking that Faith was in that situation.
I didn't know about it until now that I see you guys mention it so thanks for doing right by it. This deserves to be addressed in the space.
Thank you for covering this.
This is a major problem for combat sports. Not just that it doesn't get talked about. But when it does get talked about, the community closes ranks and sides with the abusers!
In BJJ this happened. Claudia Do Val. Top tier female competitor at the black belt level. Years in the sport. All around badass.
She comes out and talks about manipulation and inappropriate behaviour she suffered, at the hands of Ricardo De La Riva. Hair instructor, And a man old enough to be her father.
What did she get? Well she got dragged through the mud, basically. And the sport establishment rallying round one of their living legends.
Wade the one who be making these kind of jokes 🤣
Excellent job for speaking on this. Also glad Faith spoke about it and didn't hide it.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 to this whole conversation.
That must feel terrible imagine trying some new challenge to empower yourself and then you find out the people who offer to help you through that journey don’t actually care about you and they only see you as a sexual object they can take advantage of the coach should at the very least lose his job and I hope she doesn’t quit because of this sick individual
Man, I've watched sensei for a long time and I must say he's just a great human being. I have this realization each time. Great to bring this to light, what a horrible thing to happen
Sensei is such a good guy lol
I've been following Faith since she said in a interview or something that Fangs was disgusting and shameful for having an OF... personally, I have a lot of respect for what Faith said about that situation. Faith is unwilling to take any BS. I hate I know this is true but I can almost guarantee some other female influencer boxers are dealing with inappropriate treatment but are just putting up with it and are willing to take some abuse and go along with whatever happens all for money and fame.
I hope that Misfits, Kingpyn, and all the other orgs take this very seriously and get actually get rid of the trainers who were involved and make a statement out of this so it doesn't continue to happen. Although it seems like this problem exists in every industry and not just influencer boxing. I hope one day men and women can do better together
Just be careful guys, innocent until proven guilty though. Don't let emotions controll you.
Hopefully this makes her aware of what can happen and stronger as a person, no one should go through what she says.
So glad you guys talked about this!
I hadn’t heard or seen anything about this beforehand (tbf I rarely use social media), but this is super sad to see
Nobody should ever have to deal with stuff like that
good on the guys for bringing this up
honestly she is so strong for even showing up to the fight. respect fr💪💪
big up the breakdown for bringing light to this disgusting issue.
Thats disgusting my heart goes out to her. I hope if she does come back to it that she finds a good trustworthy coach.
Sucks that some ratty people have ruined the experience of boxing for her.
There’s too many old head coaches in boxing still, that’s the only reason why they think this behavior is okay smh
It's a non-issue it's two ''adults'' and only words were said.
@@terryfaulcer9052 You’re disgusting and you’re probably the same way with women lol you incel. Imagine you have an adult sister or daughter who wants to compete in boxing and the coach is making sexual advances and suggesting she pleasure herself with toys. These aren’t just “words” are you dense? These coaches should just focus on teaching them about boxing.
i appreciate y'all bringing this to light
I never even heard of this. Thanks guys for covering it
People like this need to learn when a relationship is professional and when it is more. These are her coaches not her friends.
And this is why both of you have a bright and long future ahead of you
Well said and good job trying to be supportive!
That was my comment she responded too 😮
This video shows the true character of wade and sensei, great dudes that truly care about people and this sport. It’s such a shame to see what’s happening to these females… I pray that they can heal from this :(
FoxtheG is part of this problem with his tweets
I know anyone can look good on pads but faith looked extremely good on pads
When I wanted to try influencer boxing, I went for a month but the coach was so bad and obviously suffering for some type of cte. He would take a shot of bleach everyday to stay “healthy” also would try to spray febreze in boxer mouths. Just a bad environment overall.
Lmaooo what? 😂 I'm sorry I'm dyin at this
A shot of bleach a day and the man wouldn't have an oesophagus left.
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PLEASE GET THIS VIDEO TALKED ABOUT WE SUPPORT FAITH
It would be amazing if Faith was trained by Elle Brooks trainer going forward. May not happen but I believe that would be better to her
sickos honestly big up to faith for speaking up hopefully she can continue boxing but for now she needs take time krazy world we live in stay strong faith and thanks to the breakdown for standing for her ❤💪🏼
wade calling her "Elle" at the end bro he has been researching Elle too much
Faith, just from the outside looking in, seems like such a chill good person and it's really messed up this occured. I wish someone with the heart of Faze Sensei could work with her because she seems to have a ton of potential.
as a non tik tok user like wade thank u sensei for bringing this to our attention
That was tough. Press F for Faith.
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Wooohooooooo new vidddd
Well done guys making this known respect
Well said guys.
I think these coaches thought all these girls are the same frequency as Elle Brook or astrid wett
Exactly, we need to stand up for women. I'm totally going to the women's march after hearing this and I'm going to wear 3 p-hats! Thanks for waking me up guys...I mean ya'll
As much as I love Wade and everybody else I hear the same comments from you guys talking about l Brook and the other girls not to that degree but there is some comments that are on the line
It's all a non-issue.
can you restate your comment with better punctuation
@@user-gd2rn4ox7i Why though? Did the lack of commas severely impede your comprehension of what he's trying to say?
@@user-gd2rn4ox7i no question mark? You couldn't understand what I wrote?
@@H428 Yes. It might be my severe retardism but I sincerely didn't understand what he was saying.
5:36 “we want feet” good save
SMH I train with women, and I always do my best to make sure they feel safe and not preyed upon. Not only is it unprofessional, you shouldn't sh!t where you eat. Bad look all round
@thebreakdownSW wade can you please discuss this on main channel... No offence but the breakdown doesn't have that level of audience for now.. it would be better if it reached to more and more people..
Sensei was the one that noticed the story and wanted to talk about it
People need to get exposed cuz this could potentially ruin the female influencer scene
At the end of the day there's no proof of this taking place and I don't understand the issue with suggesting an alternative to seeking out male counterparts during camp if that was true anyway
There really is no way to prove what she was saying is true. All she said about the first coach was that he was really strict with her and she didn’t like it.
And the main problem with the 2nd one, literally no one can testify too because faith and him were supposedly alone
important video this shit needs to be talked about
That's horrific, if only Faith Ordway had a good coach and throw the jab to beat Elle Brooke.
The first story, if said casually could just be a coach seeing a fighter not a woman and being like “do what you have to do to keep your head in the game but don’t waste time going on dates when you should be training”. BUT saying that, I still think it’s pretty fucking odd. Defo wouldn’t say it for myself. It’s particularly weird if he went into details of what to buy etc. like that shits just not right, but otherwise I could see how that could be quick-laddy-no-bullshit-talk. However the 2nd story is very creepy. No two ways about it. It sucks that female fighters have to deal with coaches who have other things on their mind. It’s defo something I haven’t thought about before and feel bad for them