Honda CRF300 L Rally long term build Episode 4
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Welcome to Episode 4 of our long term build of the mighty 'Red Rooster' the Honda CRF300 L Rally. This is a joint project between Andrew Clubb, Editor of Australian Adventure Bike Magazine (AAB) and Dave Darcy of Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV and Editor at Large for AAB.
In this episode it's crunch time. Time to fit the B & B tail rack and bashplate and Polisport handguards. As well as tinkering in the garage, Clubby and I get serious about discussing budget with a full and detailed picture of what we've spent revealed at the end of the build.
I'm preparing the bike for a ride with Nugget, so we know that's going to be extreme.
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I’m pleased your not crazy focused on a budget because with the DRZ , WR 250 R and DR 650 all being discontinued this bike is one of the few possible replacements that are lightish and under $20,000 and even T7 , 701, 690 need extras added to make them right . Keep up the good work men 👍
Thanks for the encouragement
Keeping it Japanese. So many potentials. KLX 300 Rally. 6 speed DRZ 400 fuel injected Rally. WR something.... will they eventuate? Unlikely.
Very good points . My only thing is our freeway speeds are 70 if you are going slow and the limit is "65" mph , lol . That's a bit of an issue here in the states but not an impossible hurdle . You could time your rides in the busy areas if you are doing a long range deal .
Blow the budget. We love watching you guys tools up.
ha ha > I think today the exhaust arrives that should blow the budget.
Great channel! I love the 'buddy' aspect of this build series and the channel in general. Friendship is an important part of riding and wrenching... I drove 13 hours on Tuesday (Minnesota to Illinois and back) to pick up my new CRF300 Rally ABS - these bikes are just not available anywhere right now... The B&B bash plate and tail rack (in black finish) were waiting for me when I got home late Tuesday night. The customer service from the B&B team, managing my international shipment, was great. I appreciate finding competent professionalism and good service and wanted to chime-in for any potential clients in the states, that B&B got me these parts in a week from Australia and everything showed up in perfect shape. I'm trying my best to adhere to a budget for my build project too (although my wife doesn't think so) and Dave, your and Clubby's aftermarket selections are almost exactly what I've chosen for my little red Honda. I strayed a bit, electing to use the Zeta triple clamp bracket (front mount) to clean-up the handlebars and prevent the twisting that can occur when I will inevitably lay the Honda down too hard. I'm also pretty smitten with the body panels, so I'll probably order some bash bars for the sides... It's already a robust bike for a 300cc and a few hundred dollars of prevention outweigh any desire to limit weight by a few more pounds. Keep up the good work!
Thank you. Just rmember those panels are cheap as chips.
YES to that last question , time is valuable and I am not super mechanical but am a sponge to learn . Keep going on that Rooster !
Thank you.
great video mate, I ordered my impact driver straight after watching how effective it is in loosening a stubborn fastener - we learn something new every day, even at the age of 54. I absolutely love your video content and don't miss an episode. Cheers from sunny South Africa.
My Mum bought that for me for my 14th birthday. I had a Honda XL100 and she saw me having difficulty getting philips head screws undone. A lovely gift that has stayed with me.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV a priceless gift, I should have mine by Friday. My 1st bike was a 1982 Honda XL 185, the 1st thing I did was strip off all the road gear to bash around the farm on it - legendary machines.
I never set a parts budget. I make a list of add-ons I want to do and prioritize them in order of importance. Then I simply work through the list as I can afford them. Eventually I get where I want to be without breaking the bank all at once. Also, I never worry about cost ratio of parts compared to purchase price of the bike. When you buy a bike it’s just a platform with potential. Turning it into what you want it to be may cost 2/3 the base price, but the hours of enjoyment to be had doing the customizations and the riding is priceless.
Agree whole heartedly.
Living in the land of granite watermelons in Nova Scotia, Canada the bash plate is an absolute must. No matter how much clearance you have limits will be found. Love what your doing with the bike. Don't cut any corners. Knowing what it could be is important to everyone watching.
thank you
Suspension is worth every penny you can have all the power in the world it’s nothing without control to top video Dave look forward to the ride
So am I. The jump into the garden told me the bike has been tranformed.
I know you have been going back and forth on the budget on the budget for this bike and it is certainly something everyone should think about when they buy any motorcycle but you have added what is necessary to make it a capable off-road bike and added the protection needed on just about every motorcycle you buy. Good to see the numbers so people understand how much you will probably spend in just about any bike you buy, some may not need suspension but will need about everything else you added.
Thank you
Looking forward to a nugget appearance :D
Ditto mate, long live Nugget!!
Friday here we come.
Nicely done lads! Mating that cowling to the bash plate is a bugger. Glad your rear rack went on without any issues!
That cowling was a pain
Awesome work guys, great bike for adventure, looking forward to seeing how it does out there.
So am I
I got the 550 ecu. Makes it a lot smoother response. Most notably power improvement was the Yoshimura exhaust. Just ordered the Uni Filter too
Thanks for that
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV the risk of not doing the ecu is it maybe too lean once you change the exhaust. It was with the 450L.
@@dewimtbmoto I'm hearing that.
@@dewimtbmoto it was too lean. Voided my warranty putting the ECU on :)
@@rgfxnet
Who needs a warranty , it's a Honda .
Forget the budget
Keep putting shit on it , i am
Im pleased you talked me into keeping it a few months back , great little back
I still think i will buy a bigger bike also . Maybe an Apprillia Tourage or a Tiger 900 Rally Pro
Noted.
Brilliant series - glad you're bailing on the budget! One thing on my girls CRF300L that we found were not great were the bars - some fat renthal / protapers make a huge difference.
Yeah we are eyeing them off.
Look like they're for a tricycle .
Enjoying this! I wouldn't include tires, you'll wear the stock ones out fast enough on any bike.
Good call!
You said it has lots of ground clearance but really without the aftermarket suspension it doesnt have much. I have a 300l and I got a yamoto skid. Took the bike out and did a borderline hard enduro trail with the poor little bike first ride. I had to take a 3 pound sledge to the skid to beat it back in shape. I promptly ordered upgraded suspension and its much better now. Got the belly up where it should be.
Yep that's why we did it.
Strewth haven't seen clubby since trailrider magazine, the only mag i subscribed to..
looking good clubby.👍
While the budget limit makes a good limiting factor for most riding, if you go desert or extreme riding conditions, you budget is going to possibily gonna put you in a less safe place. Once you go beyond normal use , you have to go beyond normal exenditure.
Would have been nice for the bash plate to extend below the rear suspension linkages.
The bikes pretty high. The other thing, and I noticed this on my 701, once you put weight on the bike the linkages are not nearly as proud.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Good point about the link raising into the line of the bike, though an extention would also keep the gritty water splash away from the seals a bit better. I have seen someone bolt an extention on to the back, but maybe even a thick rubber sheet would suffice. Great bash plate though. Love the double wall at the front.
I am loving that bash plate design.
Yeah, we thought it was good.
Hey Dave,
You mentioned you would like to weigh the CRF…I might be able to help you with that. I own a business called Weighpro we weigh cars, caravans, boats and yes bikes. We are based in Sydney and we are mobile. We get individual weights for each wheel. So you can see where the weight is. My old DR650 was 176kg my current T7 is 228kg 😬 I weighed a 2022 KLR650 last week and that was 224kg. We might be able to work something out.
Hold that thought. I'd love to compare the 701 to the CRF.
I thought I was looking in a mirror, I had to check that I was looking at the TV, it sounds like the discussion me and my wife would have, eventually I would get what I want but the negotiations was very similar
Ha ha :)
I'm just going to pour this cup of coffee and enjoy this video.
Perfect!
Thank you for a concise budget and fitment breakdown🙂,wrt to the would I spend an extra 2k for the suspension upgrade.Within the perspective of my old 80s adv rider weight etc ...I wouldn’t have any choice but to at a minimum upgrade the shock and spring,and most likely the fork springs.
My son is about to purchase one of these lil red machines and with his weight around 68kg it’s likely as an off-road learner...not mx..he won’t change the suspension out till he really wants to.
Lil itchy boots with her light weight also hasn’t required an upgrade but no doubt if she rode both modded and unmoved bikes an experienced rider would choose the upgrade.
Great work guys....are those busters on the correct sides .?.
Good point about the buster mounts. I think I recall Clubby saying all parts matched.
Itchboots doesn’t tackle rough terrain at speed like these blokes do.
@@MrEtnorb YEp DEFINITELY! Looking forward to showing the next video. Nugget is taking me extreme!
How about a couple more horses and toss the budget off a cliff . You guys have me very intrigued with this prospect . This bike can easily be rolled into the back of a truck and then let loose for whatever adventure awaits ! Fun times .
a good little bike
Dave the Plummer should do the belly pan, he used to working upside down. Safe riding
First thing I always buy is the Skid Plate.
I had a riding buddy who was very good on the trail (RIP Phil) and he had a steel frame Honda CR250, with no skid plate. His poor double cradle down tubes across the bottom of the engine where literally smashed in half across the length of them under the engine. I thought to my self, Honda must not had engineered into them to function in this state but he seem fine with it. Go Figure but the bike must had been effected by this.
Yes, I;ve seen that as well. Good point
Great work lads.
Glad you enjoyed it
I wish B&B made a rear rack for my DR350... They look awesome
It looks great. That's what sold us.
Sweet indeed.
Yeah looking nice.
Love this bike but humm, it is light compared to a big adv bike but it's not for a 300. I've spotted 1 or 2 second hand lowish K 701LR's for sale in NZ for about the same purchase and setup as the CRF which are almost the same weight but double the power. As you now have both it will be interesting to hear any advantages one has over the other for the same riding. Of course if your aim is a new bike the CRF wins price wise but it would be hard (for me anyway) to pass on the 701 if weight saving isn't there.
I'll probably have something to say about this. The 701 is an outstanding bike and in LR form, well it takes it to another level for Adventure.
Maybe you can consolidate some sponsor dollars for a lift? 🧑🔧 Looking great gents.
ha ha :)
Yeah suspension mods for sure.
yep
You know what I think you should good out and should use every thing you can do to the bike and trick it out in what is out there for the bike then if anyone wants to build there own bike we all know what there is and how much it is
I don't want to just put stuff on it. I want to keep it functional and light. I want to avoid 'bloat ware'.
Had a decent BASH on my bnb bash plate. Thank the heavens it wasn't OEM plastic.
it looks strong.
Most bikes need luggage, tyres, bashplate/rack etc. so I don't think they should be in the budget. In my eyes, the goal is to get this bike up to the same basic starting point as a premium adv bike and compare the cost v performance. The suspension sucks, so that was a must spend. The engine being 283cc is the bikes next weak point (and everyone will be looking for more power) so the fuel controller and exhaust are must haves IMO. Good luck.
Yeah let's keep going and see how we go.
Rad. More of this please 🖤🍔
Ta
Nice platform for a milk crate :)
It sure is! It has been discussed.
Are you thinking of doing handlebar risers? I'm 5'9" and feel hunched over when standing. great video, Thank YOU!
Possibly! I don't know.
hey with the uni filter once its installed can the foam just be pulled out and cleaned or do you have to remove the whole contraption each time you clean it? I'm kind of on the fence about going with the uni or just getting a k&n style reusable and using the prefilter on dusty days.
You can just pull the foam cover off for three uses before needing to take the hole cassette out.
If they fitted a very good quality suspension that was fully adjustable & serviceable that didn’t require spending extra money on for fine turning, then yes if not you best spending the money on the type of suspension that suits the individual. Some people may try to fit CRF motocross suspension under it because it could be cheaper to get hold of 🍟🍔🍰
Cost.
yeah good point
Interesting that you don’t have any linkage protection. There are cheaper but no less effective options that could get you both a rear rack and bash plate in budget. Got my deposit down for one of these so I am waiting expectantly for you to ride this thing….. Keep up the good work.
Also, I think I will be chopping off some of that unnecessary plastic to fit a tighter bash plate.
It looks nice though.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV it does. Love the look of that bike. I just think those plastics will get scratched up anyway. We’l see. I might get squeamish when it comes to cutting.
I'm all the way on the other side of the world and Dave has the same impact wrench as I do, identical even the metal case is the same color. LOL 😅 I better check my tool box and see if it's still there.
Ha ha :). My Mum bought that for me on my 14th birthday so I could pull my Honda XL100 apart.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV damn things are made well
I had a Honda SL 70 mustard gold color back then (1970's)
Fun bike.
Had to use that impact wrench on those large Phillips screws in various places.
After all the necessary upgrades is it still worth it? Or maybe look an another bike that comes with acceptable suspension from factory. The suspension is a total fail on these bikes it seems which is a pity.
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
I would prefer Honda volume price could keep the added cost less than 20% more expensive to add better suspension but would pay for it to be there at the start.
Yep that's one way.
enjoying the build series, love good a build series. I curious about your (rubber?) floor tiles, how do you like, and where did you get them from if you don’t mind sharing?
Mitre Ten Hardware. I like them. Comfortable to sit on and work on
Why the sudden swing away from barkbuster brand , I notice ride adv using polo sport too 🤔
A change in company ownership. Yeah been with Bark Busters for years and years
Love the bash plate. Costs me money every time I watch this build :) Any consideration for a tail tidy?
No, just that tail racks.
Should've gone with a pro taper fat bar
Yes that was an option, but not a priority
Did you add the stronger Rally Raid rims? Not shown in the spreadsheet.
No.
Pity you can’t buy one of these, in Bikesales there is 1 for sale and that’s the way it’s been for ages. If they were plentiful, I think it could knock the T7 off its pedestal. Thanks for being upfront about the sponsorship. I can’t understand why you are quibbling about a few items when the bike cost s about half a new T7 and then owners spend $000’s on it, taking it to an 890 cost.
All bike production across all brands has been affected by covid. Once full production of this bike comes on, it will be very popular.
Do you ever use a Loctite thread lock or similar products to stop your Nuts and bolts coming loose?
Yes. You mustn't have watched the video all the way through. WE filmed using loctite - blue - not red.
Keep budget total so people can know what mods cost if they want to copy but don't set a limit go mental
All the mods see what the ultimate 300 rally can do
Copy
Can't you put the plastic cover on before the bash plate?
nope
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV guess I'll be going with the cable tie option 😂
That shipping cost is crazy! You guys don't know anyone who works at Qantas?? 8) And -$350 install? A Saturday afternoon in the garage, a case of Foster's, Ice and the best 'wrench's' you know??. You might lose 3 kg with a pipe too?? Don't mind me, I'm just an old US bike guy... Cheers... 8) --gary
Firstly, Gary if your from the US then your value of your dollar is stronger so for you around 40% less. Secondly someone was saying to me the other day the difference between Honda 300 owners and Yamaha T700 owners is that 300 are owners are tight with their money. :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV 40%! Wow, you peaked my interest, I had to go look. Here in the US, the 700 Tenere is $10,299, plus 430 destination, and 250 freight/setup. $10,997. The 300 Rally is $6099, plus $600 D/F/S, or $6699. The standard 300L is $5399, $5999 after D/F/S. 40% would make the Yamaha $15396! We can buy the standard Africa for $14.400!! $17299 for the Adventure! My Brother worked for a big US Arline. Back in the day, he would pick up parts for us and deliver them across country. We saved a lot of $$ that way!! Very interesting, thanks for the reply!! I'm 70 now, so I ride more hard top than dirt. 8) --gary Oh and PS; It's also easy to find a dealer willing to discount $500 on smaller, $1000 on larger bikes!! --gtr
Hi Dave will you dyno the bike with the std exhaust and then with the arrow exhaust.
No. We don't have easy access to a dyno.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV that’s a pity it would be nice to see if you got any usable power increases for your money above the weight saving
@@keithkeeble7483 unfortunately Keith it's going to be seat of the pants stuff.
Any plans to do a new KLX300 build? Or are they not available in Aussie land?
No.
Did you find any handguards that didn't require shortening the handlebars?
Tell me you're not serious
Will you put the B&B tail tidy on that you had in the box
Not sure.
Re plastic bashplates
I’ve never had an issue with KTM plastic bashplates.
I have one on my Husky 300. Completely happy with that.
I’m currently deciding between the B&H rear rack and one from the rally-raid. Why did you opt for the B&B?
Even though Rally Raid is a long term sponsor of MAD TV, we just preferred the B & B. Clubby and I have access to a wide range of parts and accessories, but we are just trying to build the bike the way we want. We looked at soft pannier racks and luggage options combined with the tail rack. I think it will work for what we want.
To be clear; I’m not challenging your decision (I literally can’t imagine how often y’all catch flak for decisions). I was just wondering whether there was something about the design of the B&B that struck you as being better in general or more suitable for your use case. I’m prepping a big rally raid purchase anyway, but if there are advantages to the b&b, I’ve no issue going that way. Any guidance is appreciated, and thanks.
@@noahrobin1941 I didn't take it that way. For our eye it just looks more integrated. The Rally Raid also has capacity for Rotopacks and other fittings. It came down to personal preference. But both Clubby and I had that preference.
Ah, the comments section. No chance for miscommunication. :) Gotcha and thanks.
But will it wheelie…
I have a feeling we will soon see
Yep
If it's a budget build, why wouldnt you go with Aussie Barkbusters instead of those polisport hand guards. $40 cheaper too.
We've used Bark Busters on all our builds for years and years. They've recently changed hands .
Fair enough. Loving the vids!
What happen to the tail tidy?
Haven't put it on
I would prefer a silver bash plate. Already too much black on this bike for my liking.
Yeah that's another opton but wanted it to match the cowling.
Lithium battery saves a bit of weight
Good point.
Some nice fat bars?
yeah
Mmmm…yeah nahhh…for base of $9100 plus on roads (let’s call it $10k ride away) 25hp motorcycle then turning it into a $14k heavier weight motorcycle is really throwing good money after bad. It’s still a slow buzzy donkey and nothing will change that. Better off spending $14k on a used Africa Twin with 15,000kms on it (or a Tenere) and learning how to ride. Or find a good used DR650.
You forgot a dr 400 or 701
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV good point....yep
too much talk.
You're the first one to say that
What happened to the tail tidy?
We're just leaving it at the moment