If it wasn't clear enough, my preference has switched more towards the control end of balance, instead of speed like it was with the Hayate Otsu! Also you can get most of these pads in NA from Lethal Gaming Gear with my code haus5 for a 5% discount!
what is best for games like valorant. mousepad with low or high static friction? and which mouse has it? artisan or saturn or any other? i like flicking fast. but i dont like speed or uncontrollable mousepads and i dont like mud pads
Artisan Zero Soft is jack of all trades for me. Super smooth glide and the control is amazing in any game I play. Valorant, Apex, Overwatch, lots of aim trainers
I will say this. I've gone through countless mousepads trying to find something that not only feels great out of the box, but continues to feel great and hold up over time. The LGG Saturn is the best pad I have ever played on hands down. I get pretty sweaty hands while gaming for any amount of time and nearly every other pad I've played on became a mud-pad after a few months of use. My LGG Saturn feels the same today (after nearly a year of use) as it did the day I got it. Phenomenal control pad that also has enough speed to get your mouse where it needs to be. Can't recommend the pad enough.
Personally I have a lgg saturn as well but it turned into a mud pad for me. The spot where my mouse is used more is much slower than the place it hasn't been used.
Ive tried lots of pads but I always come back to my Saturn Pro. Its just something about this surface that gives way more control than you would think just running your hand across it.
You like it more than an Artisan Zero? I am curious, do you think with the Saturn Pro being so similar that it is just the better version of the Artisan Zero? My FX Zero is almost here, got it right from them for like $65. But your video and the others I've been watching made me pre-order a Saturn Pro as well. Both the Artisan and Zero are coming in their Soft versions.
@@ActuallyDKM I have a Saturn pro on the way but I’ve used the original Saturn and the artisan zero extensively. The artisan zero is really good In my opinion, so you probably aren’t missing out by getting either saturn pro or artisan zero and not the other. But I think getting both and sending back the one you like less is the way to go. Remember saturn pro also comes in a bigger size than the artisan
@@whoishuncho5048 I have the Artisan Zero, I am waiting for my Saturn Pro still. Haven’t tried a Saturn. I will say that I absolutely love my Zero. Well worth it.
Used to own a Qck mass for a bit when I was younger but switched to other mousepads over the year. Last year I got myself a Saturn non Pro but never really enjoyed using it for CS and idk why, felt a bit too fast on the initial glide, so I decided to buy a QCK Heavy. Ho man, for some reason the QCK just feels perfect for Tact Shooters,
The Saturn Pro just checks all boxes for me. Red colorway, below surface stitching, insane durability, a soft comfy base, and a great overall surface for Valorant. I have a 500x500 coming in June and I don't see myself buying another pad until both of my Saturn are completely worn out mudpads.
@@trilecebey soft just because the first Saturn pro was soft and I had no issues with it. Also I learned with my artisans that xsoft does wear out faster and the harder the surface is, the more consistent it is (underneath the surface in the foam itself).
Even though I appreciate your nicely produced reviews I would advise people to always make their own decision no matter how good someone says a mousepad is. Why? I've been a long term Qck user (probably 6 years) and Artisan was widely mentioned and people generally talked bad about the Qck. I bought the "recommended" Artisan that's similar, but "better" than the Qck - the Zero. While it's an okay mousepad I'm so used to my Qck that I'm thinking about coming back to it. I'm very used to the strong stopping power the Qck provides, even in fast tracking games like Apex. The Artisan feels similar, but I always notice I'm missing that feel. I take care of my old Qck and I like the feel of it, never had a need to replace it, but I was really interested in the Artisan. You can get into a deep rabbit hole by getting into mousepads or you can stick to what works. And don't let me get started on "light mice are better for fps games". Like with everything, it's all preference.
I have both the Saturn and Venus pro and I mostly play CS. I actually have been performing better with the Venus even though I mostly used control focused pads before. I’ve never had a textured pad before and I love the feedback it gives me. I still haven’t used the pads long enough to make a final verdict though.
Great! Will have to whip out my Venus Pro again. Didn't spend time on it tbh before going with the Saturn Pro. The Saturn Pro is for sure my most used pad also... My top 5 goes: - Saturn Pro - Skypad 3.0 - Hayate Otsu soft - Raiden Xsoft - Dornfinger Cordura Speed
I highly recommend the PA Black, it’s the QcK Heavy 2.0 with a better glide and more consistency. I tried everything from the GSR to the Gamesense Radar and a handful of other pads nothing comes close to the Heavy except for the PA Black. If Vaxee releases it with stitched edges in the future, it’ll be a 10/10 mousepad.
I've got the PA Black, I even mentioned it in the video! To me the slightly softer base of the QcK edged it over the PA Black and the PB, but they are all very similar pads.
As a pc enthusiast but a fairly average gamer, I'd love to see a video comparing these higher end pads with the more mainstream offerings from HyperX, Corsair and Logitech. Thanks man.
So why do you prefer Saturn Pro over Artisan Zero (I recently bought an Artisan Zero to replace my old QCK Heavy and I also considered Saturn Pro but it was way more expensive to have it delivered here). Which one is slower, which one has more static friction and more dynamic friction?
Saturn pro is slower, not sure about the exact friction differences but i believe Saturn is easier to get the mouse moving, it doesn’t have an issue with hair like artisan, and comes in a bigger size. But I think if you’re happy with the zero just keep it cuz they’re both phenomenal pads you won’t be gaining or losing that much by getting one over the other
I've come up with a foam/sponge rubber desk mat that turned out to be very comfortable and fairly mouse compatible, more like moderate sensitivity. Been using it for 3 years personally and my friends, so far it's been great so I've made a whole batch of them, it's called Fusionstrike Limestone Desk Mat if anyone interested getting one (currently ship within UK but could sort out international shipment too). The rubber is made from sustainable limestone rock instead of oil/petrol which makes it more environmentally friendly than most desk mats out there. It's laminated with super stretch smooth nylon so it's easier to clean it than most cloth mats.
I'm using the qck+ right now with stitched edges and I think it's fairly underrated to. Holds up well. I've cleaned it once and it doesn't get dirty quick. It's not the thick version. It's a very consistent surface with basically zero break in. I think the majority of QCK durability issues was with the edges peeling up on older non stitched edge versions. I see a lot of people rank the fury s higher which I also have and it's trash. Very bumpy uneven surface that I'd put in dogshit tier for sure. Just ordered to aqua control 2 as I'm in Canada and it's one of the only S tier mouse pads I can get easily. Can also get artisan but have to wait a while and it costs like $120 CAD.
I am curious, do you think with the Saturn Pro being so similar that it is just the better version of the Artisan Zero? My FX Zero is almost here, got it right from them for like $65. But your video and the others I've been watching made me pre-order a Saturn Pro as well. Both the Artisan and Zero are coming in their Soft versions.
Hi! I've been using the regular QcK for my whole quake career but I do have issues with slow spots, humidity changes and even temperature changes that may affect humidity of the slowspots. So I end up getting used to have a somewhat wore down surface that is slower than when it's new. So if I get a new one it takes me like 3 months before I get back go my baseline performance in game. So I'm thinking of getting a hybrid instead. And since I'm cheap I was planning on getting a odin gaming infinity hybrid pad. But that didn't make it to your top list? What pad are closest to the QcK? And are there any ones out there without stitched edges? I use high sens and use like a small area/the corner of the pad actually. I don't even rest my hand on the pad but instead on the desk. So I'm always close to the corner with the placement of my mouse. Stitched edges will interfere with the fact that I sometimes cross the edge of the pad with the top section of my mouse. Do you think it's possible go cut away the stiched edges without getting too much fraying?
Been maining the ac zero last couple months and love it. I may get the next size up bc I have the smallest version but I feel like I’ve gotten my best out of it
currently using the hien and i like the roughness/textured feedback. but i want to try out something with more control and stopping power. idk maybe the venus pro? it is technically a hybrid pad, not control. or should i try the endgame gear em-c?
Opinions on the aqua control plus or 2 in a deskpad size? I am looking for a pad that i can use which is in a 900x400 format which has good glide and also stopping power. Any recommendations? I just wish artisan made pads which would be larger. I have been told that the gamesense radar is also good but with newer pads out in the market i am not sure how older pads seem to hold up nowadays. Any pad similar to the zero would be a dream for me and the base doesnt have to be special as it shouldn't move too much anyway at that size. Thanks
what exactly is a mud pad? when a pad is used for too long and it feels heavy? i wish i could get zero or saturn pro. but man shipping costs so expensive to asia.
@@strvy it’s definitely not a bad pad, it’s not worth it for the original price but you can find those discounted often and that’s when they’re worth it
Hey dude, just stumbled across your channel and appreciating the mouse/mousemat content. I'm making a comment because I also come from a cod4 background and was quite high up in the scene. Did you play promod on PC I assume? Was your alias Haus back then too? I can't recall anybody with that name but it's obviously been a while! Anyways, just curious, as soon as I heard that I subscribed, cod4 holds a special place in my heart! - Echo
Is the qck good? Ive used it since 1.6 days and i loved it but from a years back I’ve used zowie ones but the last one is pure garbage tbh, it lost its properties about 2 months in lol. If the qck is good again I would definitely buy it
It provides more feedback than the Saturn Pro, and with most feet it also feels slower than the Saturn Pro. The difference in speed is fairly small though, the difference in feedback is massive.
This actually convinced me to buy a QcK Heavy because shipping alone on the Saturn Pro ended up being $46 canadian which is the cheapest option (yikes).
what is best for games like valorant. mousepad with low or high static friction? and which mouse has it? artisan or saturn or any other? i like flicking fast. but i dont like speed or uncontrollable mousepads and i dont like mud pads??
I need a recommendation, I currently have the hyperx fury s pro, and I want to change the mouse pad, which one do you recommend, Logitech g640 or Steel series Qck Edge? My sensitivity is 1600Dpi and 0,228 in valorant. As a first option I had the LGG Saturn, but it is discarded because it is very expensive for import shipping.
Taas hieno video! Oon pitkään kattonu tota LGG Saturnia. Tällä hetkellä käytän Vaxee PA:ta, ja se on ollu kaikin tavoin hyvä, tilasin vain jostain syystä sen pienemmän M version vaikka tarviin isomman CS:ässää varten. Voisin tietysti vaan tilata saman maton isompana mut olis myös kiva kokeilla Saturnia! Harmi kyl jos se Pro-versio on saatavilla vast kesällä
How does the Aqua Control Zero compare to the QCK? Is it easy to microadjust like the QCK? The Saturn Pro had too much tugging on direction changes unlike the QCK.
do you think the GPW feet are better feeling all around than the GPX stock style skates? trying to decide, ive used both mice and from memory the GPW felt smoother overall
What about hayate otsu xsoft? You changed your mind about this mousepad since it's not on the list? cuz i watched your review today and im looking to buy any fast or medium fast mousepad and otsu was my way to go mousepad. Btw can you review the MPC450 mousepad? Jcobbb (new cs2 talent, i believe he was 2nd in faceit ranking) is using this mousepad so i wonder how good it is.
@@hausgaming can you review logitech g740? it has 5mm thickness almost the same thickness as qck heavy (6mm) and basically no one has done a review on it
with your use of the es2 so far what pad in your top 5 comes closest in feel and speed/control? I heard great things about it. Even zywoos been on it lately
I just got the ZOWIE G-SR-SE Rouge, really loving it as it is the perfect balance between speed and control but I am just concerned about it's durability. Would you recommend any mousepad with a very similar feeling but more durable? Would the Artisan Zero Mid be a suitable option ?
I like the Esportiger longteng special edition "2" for the smooth and control glide. it was listed as a super slow pad , but in my mind the QCK Heavy and some other pads are much slower as this. I would like to test the Vaxxee PA pads one time maybe with if a new wireless mouse of them released.
hello Haus, I would like to know your opinion about AC0 to play only CS. I'm Brazilian and the translation of the video was not very easy to understand.
PA does not have a coating and if it has humidity problems, they are there with the Rouge as well. As I said, in my environment I don't really struggle with any humidity issues :)
Do you have a recommendation for a gaming sleeve and in your opinion is it worth it? I play with my entire forearm on the pad so maybe it could lead to more consistency
Sleeve is worth it, but I usually use whatever I have here. Bunch of companies have sent me some and I've got few sports sleeves. All feel very similar
This mouse pad is my new gaming bribe! With it, my arrows take off like rockets, and my victories are as sweet as caramels! I recommend the DreamPad by Dream machines" "Bros, the DreamPad XL is what you need to drive your gameplay! Games have never been so brilliant! I recommend the DreamPad from Dream machines
I bought myself the venus pro, i love it... but for some reason it wont stick to my desk... i cleaned the desk beforehand ... when i try it on my girlfriends desk, it does stick and stay in place like a brick... any tips on what i can do, i suppose the surface is just to slick
As with most gaming surfaces, the Dream machines DM Pad XXL has a rubber backing to help keep it in place while you play. This is a very useful feature that helps ensure stability during intense movements.
I bought the AC Zero based on this recommendation and I don't know if it was just my unit but, the mousepad is completely unusable if I press into it. Messed up my spray control for days until I realised it was the mousepad. It would just slow down infinitely the more pressure you put into it. Otherwise the speed and control were perfect.
an update to this - I got used to the mouse and it's a great mouse for speed and microadjustments but it does have a slightly slow tug when adjusting over longer distances. feels like an actually controlled version of the Artisan Zero
Hi, I'm between the Razer Gigantus V2 Large mousepad and the Vaxee PA mousepad, which do you think is better? I don't care about the price difference, I mainly play valorant, cheers ^^
my LGG Venus has more static friction than my QCK. Both by feel and if i measure it with a tilt test. It's an old QCK from around 2015 though, maybe the new ones are different
Hey Haus, I love your videos! I was wondering how the AC Zero compares to the Odin Infinity? I currently have the Alexotos Deskpad version and have been wanting to branch out with some others. The Odin I feel is balanced leaning towards fast, so if the AC Zero feels balanced leaning towards control in comparison to the Infinity then I think it would be a good compliment
You setup looks very slick, good quality videos. Thanks for the advice, i have the hayate otsu soft now, do you think it is worth getting the saturn pro as well?
Im suprised for no Artisan on the list, my favorites Artisan Zero Soft for control and Artisan Hayate Otsu Xsoft for more speed. QCK Heavy was my main back in day but its inconsistent as hell. Im curious do you prefer Saturn Pro over Artisan Zero?
No consistency issues whatsoever with the QcK Heavy on my end! Maybe you are using it without a sports sleeve or a long sleeved shirt? For your question about Saturn Pro over Zero, it should be pretty clear after watching this video :)
my qck+ started to get slow after 6 months now, its harder to make micro adjustments, its only 18 euros tho, and even my cordura pads got slower by that point
How long has it been since you've used your egg mpc450? I recently dug mine out of storage and was surprised hos good it actually is. Usually man skypad 2.0 and they feel like almost the same pad
Its nice u bring up the qck heavy cause im looking for replacement for it and i was planning to buy a original lgg saturn cause boardzy told that the og lgg saturn was slower than the saturn pro but in your review the saturn pro is the slower one. Now im really confuse which is really slower and closer to qck heavy pls help 😢
Not faster than the Otsu imo! I more so mentioned Energon & ES2 because they are new and promising pads for what I've tested them. But I don't form a proper opinion about a mousepad before EXTENSIVE use these days. I tried to make this clear when talking about the honorable mentions!
Tässä nyt käyttänny QCK-heavy XXL monen vuoden ajan ja nyt tullut mieleen, että voisipa vaihtaa. Oma MP, että olisiko parempi ostaa zero vai tuo saturni? Molemmilla sama hinta- sekä saatavuus. kynäriä ja codia tulee pelailtua sekä vähän runea, jossa tarkkuus / nopeus on aika tärkeä.
i bought an artisan hien xsoft and i kind of regret not getting the zero xl soft but artisan pads are so good and very good quality and its so good i might get another onebut now i will get the zero xl soft
I can't recall sadly! Been a while since I've used it. Both are balanced options and ones you should be able to get used to. The biggest difference between those is that PA/GSR-SE-Rouge or gris are smooth and the Zero is more textured.
Can you help me in case of the differences for Saturn Pro series. I dont know the best way to go like xsoft, soft or mid. Using Artisan Zero xsoft for 1 year and in comp games i feel like the mouse is diggin into the pad so i cant move for flicks or adjustments. i highly dont want the same with the saturn pro. Does the xsoft of LLG Saturn Pro feels the same like the Artisan Zero xsoft?
basically what ive expected, though i kinda thought the es2 and gsrser/pa would be swapped. and of course no way i could expect a qck on this list specifically
If it wasn't clear enough, my preference has switched more towards the control end of balance, instead of speed like it was with the Hayate Otsu! Also you can get most of these pads in NA from Lethal Gaming Gear with my code haus5 for a 5% discount!
I will give a try to the zowie rogue and aqua. I been doing apex. What would u suggest? Imy sens is .8 -800dpi
what is best for games like valorant. mousepad with low or high static friction? and which mouse has it? artisan or saturn or any other? i like flicking fast. but i dont like speed or uncontrollable mousepads and i dont like mud pads
Artisan Zero Soft is jack of all trades for me. Super smooth glide and the control is amazing in any game I play. Valorant, Apex, Overwatch, lots of aim trainers
@@iwtpcsa yes It can but I’ve came from hybrid pads and compared to their roughness it’s nothing to me
I like the roughness - more feedback
I will say this. I've gone through countless mousepads trying to find something that not only feels great out of the box, but continues to feel great and hold up over time. The LGG Saturn is the best pad I have ever played on hands down. I get pretty sweaty hands while gaming for any amount of time and nearly every other pad I've played on became a mud-pad after a few months of use. My LGG Saturn feels the same today (after nearly a year of use) as it did the day I got it. Phenomenal control pad that also has enough speed to get your mouse where it needs to be. Can't recommend the pad enough.
Personally I have a lgg saturn as well but it turned into a mud pad for me. The spot where my mouse is used more is much slower than the place it hasn't been used.
@@Rayaan1234567890 have you washed it?
have you tried the soft version?
@@renegaderobs2779 nah, still have my original. I might look into buying a new pad soon, but the Saturn has held up really well
Ive tried lots of pads but I always come back to my Saturn Pro. Its just something about this surface that gives way more control than you would think just running your hand across it.
Yep, imo it's the best all-around mousepad atm!
You like it more than an Artisan Zero? I am curious, do you think with the Saturn Pro being so similar that it is just the better version of the Artisan Zero? My FX Zero is almost here, got it right from them for like $65. But your video and the others I've been watching made me pre-order a Saturn Pro as well. Both the Artisan and Zero are coming in their Soft versions.
@@ActuallyDKM I have a Saturn pro on the way but I’ve used the original Saturn and the artisan zero extensively. The artisan zero is really good In my opinion, so you probably aren’t missing out by getting either saturn pro or artisan zero and not the other. But I think getting both and sending back the one you like less is the way to go. Remember saturn pro also comes in a bigger size than the artisan
@@ActuallyDKMis there big difference in saturn and saturn pro? cs go player here. if yes, could u describe it?:)
@@whoishuncho5048 I have the Artisan Zero, I am waiting for my Saturn Pro still. Haven’t tried a Saturn. I will say that I absolutely love my Zero. Well worth it.
Used to own a Qck mass for a bit when I was younger but switched to other mousepads over the year. Last year I got myself a Saturn non Pro but never really enjoyed using it for CS and idk why, felt a bit too fast on the initial glide, so I decided to buy a QCK Heavy. Ho man, for some reason the QCK just feels perfect for Tact Shooters,
The Saturn Pro just checks all boxes for me. Red colorway, below surface stitching, insane durability, a soft comfy base, and a great overall surface for Valorant. I have a 500x500 coming in June and I don't see myself buying another pad until both of my Saturn are completely worn out mudpads.
Saturn Pro be bangin!
Did you order soft orxsoft i ordered xsoft i hope it will good 4mm thickness !
@@trilecebey soft just because the first Saturn pro was soft and I had no issues with it. Also I learned with my artisans that xsoft does wear out faster and the harder the surface is, the more consistent it is (underneath the surface in the foam itself).
@@RompusJr first batch was xsoft
@@RompusJr should i cancel my preorder xsoft to soft maybe i tried artisan zero soft once.
Even though I appreciate your nicely produced reviews I would advise people to always make their own decision no matter how good someone says a mousepad is. Why?
I've been a long term Qck user (probably 6 years) and Artisan was widely mentioned and people generally talked bad about the Qck. I bought the "recommended" Artisan that's similar, but "better" than the Qck - the Zero. While it's an okay mousepad I'm so used to my Qck that I'm thinking about coming back to it. I'm very used to the strong stopping power the Qck provides, even in fast tracking games like Apex. The Artisan feels similar, but I always notice I'm missing that feel. I take care of my old Qck and I like the feel of it, never had a need to replace it, but I was really interested in the Artisan.
You can get into a deep rabbit hole by getting into mousepads or you can stick to what works.
And don't let me get started on "light mice are better for fps games".
Like with everything, it's all preference.
I have both the Saturn and Venus pro and I mostly play CS. I actually have been performing better with the Venus even though I mostly used control focused pads before. I’ve never had a textured pad before and I love the feedback it gives me. I still haven’t used the pads long enough to make a final verdict though.
Venus Pro is almost as controlled as the Saturn, it's just more textured, but the static friction is almost identical.
@@xblur17 True. I think I just prefer having the texture.
Yep, I've been talking about the feedback for a few years now! It's very helpful for precision. Venus Pro is a very good option for tac fps!
Great! Will have to whip out my Venus Pro again. Didn't spend time on it tbh before going with the Saturn Pro.
The Saturn Pro is for sure my most used pad also...
My top 5 goes:
- Saturn Pro
- Skypad 3.0
- Hayate Otsu soft
- Raiden Xsoft
- Dornfinger Cordura Speed
Great list dude! 🔥 Been loving the Energon since I got it. Nice to see it made the honourable mention
I highly recommend the PA Black, it’s the QcK Heavy 2.0 with a better glide and more consistency. I tried everything from the GSR to the Gamesense Radar and a handful of other pads nothing comes close to the Heavy except for the PA Black. If Vaxee releases it with stitched edges in the future, it’ll be a 10/10 mousepad.
I've got the PA Black, I even mentioned it in the video! To me the slightly softer base of the QcK edged it over the PA Black and the PB, but they are all very similar pads.
@@hausgaming Yeah I watched it before commenting, I meant to other control pad users. BTW my Heavy is still going strong after all these years!
As a pc enthusiast but a fairly average gamer, I'd love to see a video comparing these higher end pads with the more mainstream offerings from HyperX, Corsair and Logitech. Thanks man.
Love my Venus and my year old original is still rocking.
Venus is stronk!
So why do you prefer Saturn Pro over Artisan Zero (I recently bought an Artisan Zero to replace my old QCK Heavy and I also considered Saturn Pro but it was way more expensive to have it delivered here). Which one is slower, which one has more static friction and more dynamic friction?
Saturn pro is slower, not sure about the exact friction differences but i believe Saturn is easier to get the mouse moving, it doesn’t have an issue with hair like artisan, and comes in a bigger size. But I think if you’re happy with the zero just keep it cuz they’re both phenomenal pads you won’t be gaining or losing that much by getting one over the other
GITOPER G2 mousepad release on June,
- 490x420x3.5mm
- Jacquard fabric cloth surface
- Premium, ultra-thin stitched edges
- Non-slip base
- No coating
- 3 colors (Black, Green, and Purple)
I've come up with a foam/sponge rubber desk mat that turned out to be very comfortable and fairly mouse compatible, more like moderate sensitivity. Been using it for 3 years personally and my friends, so far it's been great so I've made a whole batch of them, it's called Fusionstrike Limestone Desk Mat if anyone interested getting one (currently ship within UK but could sort out international shipment too). The rubber is made from sustainable limestone rock instead of oil/petrol which makes it more environmentally friendly than most desk mats out there. It's laminated with super stretch smooth nylon so it's easier to clean it than most cloth mats.
My main pad is gamesense radar, i love the smooth surface. How rough these pads are compared to radar ?
I'm using the qck+ right now with stitched edges and I think it's fairly underrated to. Holds up well. I've cleaned it once and it doesn't get dirty quick. It's not the thick version. It's a very consistent surface with basically zero break in. I think the majority of QCK durability issues was with the edges peeling up on older non stitched edge versions. I see a lot of people rank the fury s higher which I also have and it's trash. Very bumpy uneven surface that I'd put in dogshit tier for sure. Just ordered to aqua control 2 as I'm in Canada and it's one of the only S tier mouse pads I can get easily. Can also get artisan but have to wait a while and it costs like $120 CAD.
I am curious, do you think with the Saturn Pro being so similar that it is just the better version of the Artisan Zero? My FX Zero is almost here, got it right from them for like $65. But your video and the others I've been watching made me pre-order a Saturn Pro as well. Both the Artisan and Zero are coming in their Soft versions.
Hi!
I've been using the regular QcK for my whole quake career but I do have issues with slow spots, humidity changes and even temperature changes that may affect humidity of the slowspots. So I end up getting used to have a somewhat wore down surface that is slower than when it's new. So if I get a new one it takes me like 3 months before I get back go my baseline performance in game. So I'm thinking of getting a hybrid instead. And since I'm cheap I was planning on getting a odin gaming infinity hybrid pad. But that didn't make it to your top list? What pad are closest to the QcK? And are there any ones out there without stitched edges? I use high sens and use like a small area/the corner of the pad actually. I don't even rest my hand on the pad but instead on the desk. So I'm always close to the corner with the placement of my mouse. Stitched edges will interfere with the fact that I sometimes cross the edge of the pad with the top section of my mouse. Do you think it's possible go cut away the stiched edges without getting too much fraying?
Been maining the ac zero last couple months and love it. I may get the next size up bc I have the smallest version but I feel like I’ve gotten my best out of it
I would really like to see a review of the new artisan shidenkai.
currently using the hien and i like the roughness/textured feedback.
but i want to try out something with more control and stopping power.
idk maybe the venus pro? it is technically a hybrid pad, not control.
or should i try the endgame gear em-c?
Both are great, I'd say even the EM-C is more on the verge of balance than control.
Opinions on the aqua control plus or 2 in a deskpad size? I am looking for a pad that i can use which is in a 900x400 format which has good glide and also stopping power. Any recommendations? I just wish artisan made pads which would be larger. I have been told that the gamesense radar is also good but with newer pads out in the market i am not sure how older pads seem to hold up nowadays. Any pad similar to the zero would be a dream for me and the base doesnt have to be special as it shouldn't move too much anyway at that size.
Thanks
what exactly is a mud pad? when a pad is used for too long and it feels heavy? i wish i could get zero or saturn pro. but man shipping costs so expensive to asia.
100% agreed that qck heavy is a great and nowadays underrated pad
I don’t think I’ll ever be as dialed in with a pad like I was with my qck heavy many many years ago.
It's bad now, just get an artisan zero at this point
@@strvy it’s definitely not a bad pad, it’s not worth it for the original price but you can find those discounted often and that’s when they’re worth it
@@sml_tech still a better investment, you can always get the money back fast
@@strvyI wreck artisan andies with my qck :p
not surprised to see SS Heavy, pretty decent mouse pad with good speed/control ratio
What softness are you using for the Saturn/Venus Pro and Artisan Zero?
Hey dude, just stumbled across your channel and appreciating the mouse/mousemat content. I'm making a comment because I also come from a cod4 background and was quite high up in the scene. Did you play promod on PC I assume? Was your alias Haus back then too? I can't recall anybody with that name but it's obviously been a while!
Anyways, just curious, as soon as I heard that I subscribed, cod4 holds a special place in my heart!
- Echo
My nickname was kammyz! Played for TEK9 and Reason Gaming for example
what about your favorite mouse skates?
Is the qck good? Ive used it since 1.6 days and i loved it but from a years back I’ve used zowie ones but the last one is pure garbage tbh, it lost its properties about 2 months in lol. If the qck is good again I would definitely buy it
i value consistency and feeling of the pad. loving my gp4 (black) and wont change soon :)
GP4 kinda fire as well!
Nice video!! So the ac zero is slower than Saturn pro?
It provides more feedback than the Saturn Pro, and with most feet it also feels slower than the Saturn Pro. The difference in speed is fairly small though, the difference in feedback is massive.
@@hausgaming what is feedback in mouse pads? stopping action?
This actually convinced me to buy a QcK Heavy because shipping alone on the Saturn Pro ended up being $46 canadian which is the cheapest option (yikes).
That’s actually really cheap for the Saturn pro
@@tinocabral4201 The mousepad is $77 + $46 shipping.
@@jcross1215 yikes I thought you meant 46 total, yeah that’s a lot, just misread it
what is best for games like valorant. mousepad with low or high static friction? and which mouse has it? artisan or saturn or any other? i like flicking fast. but i dont like speed or uncontrollable mousepads and i dont like mud pads??
hausgaming: *uploads a new vid "My Favorite Mousepads of All Time!"
my wallet: "Oh not again!"
I need a recommendation, I currently have the hyperx fury s pro, and I want to change the mouse pad, which one do you recommend, Logitech g640 or Steel series Qck Edge? My sensitivity is 1600Dpi and 0,228 in valorant. As a first option I had the LGG Saturn, but it is discarded because it is very expensive for import shipping.
Haus what is closest to qck heavy
Taas hieno video! Oon pitkään kattonu tota LGG Saturnia. Tällä hetkellä käytän Vaxee PA:ta, ja se on ollu kaikin tavoin hyvä, tilasin vain jostain syystä sen pienemmän M version vaikka tarviin isomman CS:ässää varten. Voisin tietysti vaan tilata saman maton isompana mut olis myös kiva kokeilla Saturnia! Harmi kyl jos se Pro-versio on saatavilla vast kesällä
Pro-version saatavuus on tosiaan huono tällä hetkellä! PA on myös loistava matto ja muutenkin hyviä vaihtoehtoja on ihan älytön määrä
Excellent video as always
Glad you enjoyed it!
How does the Aqua Control Zero compare to the QCK? Is it easy to microadjust like the QCK? The Saturn Pro had too much tugging on direction changes unlike the QCK.
Love my Xten Control, just wish I didn't have to spend so much money on a pad.
do you think the GPW feet are better feeling all around than the GPX stock style skates? trying to decide, ive used both mice and from memory the GPW felt smoother overall
What about hayate otsu xsoft? You changed your mind about this mousepad since it's not on the list? cuz i watched your review today and im looking to buy any fast or medium fast mousepad and otsu was my way to go mousepad. Btw can you review the MPC450 mousepad? Jcobbb (new cs2 talent, i believe he was 2nd in faceit ranking) is using this mousepad so i wonder how good it is.
What's that gamer sleeve at 8:05 ? I wanna buy one, but don't know anything about them.
on my qck heavy the logo is as if it had cracks (1 years+ of usage) but the surface is like new, even after washing it three times
Thanks for letting me know!
@@hausgaming can you review logitech g740? it has 5mm thickness almost the same thickness as qck heavy (6mm) and basically no one has done a review on it
with your use of the es2 so far what pad in your top 5 comes closest in feel and speed/control? I heard great things about it. Even zywoos been on it lately
G-SR-SE Rouge / PA are most similar to ES2, but I prefer those both over the ES2 atm, and I doubt it will change!
Waiting for my Saturn Pro, I'll most likely get it until july :( , no stock sucks
I just got the ZOWIE G-SR-SE Rouge, really loving it as it is the perfect balance between speed and control but I am just concerned about it's durability.
Would you recommend any mousepad with a very similar feeling but more durable? Would the Artisan Zero Mid be a suitable option ?
G-SR-SE Rouge should be fairly durable! It's a great option imo. Zero Mid is also nice, but I don't like the surface as much as the G-SR-SE.
@@hausgaming noted, thanks for your reply man and keep up with the good content !
This is an excellent list🔥, but the list we really need - what do you use for the hair and beard?
lmao bro, actually BadSeedTech beard oil for beard!
yo haus what would you say the dynamic and static friction of the ac zero is like in comparisson to the gsr-se? would you say its a slower pad?
I like the Esportiger longteng special edition "2" for the smooth and control glide. it was listed as a super slow pad , but in my mind the QCK Heavy and some other pads are much slower as this. I would like to test the Vaxxee PA pads one time maybe with if a new wireless mouse of them released.
hello Haus, I would like to know your opinion about AC0 to play only CS. I'm Brazilian and the translation of the video was not very easy to understand.
love my artisan zero soft, i found the qck heavy to not last long at all.
You forgot to mention vx pa isn't humidity resistant, and I believe it even has a coating! rouge takes the cake imo (Amazon availability, too).
PA does not have a coating and if it has humidity problems, they are there with the Rouge as well. As I said, in my environment I don't really struggle with any humidity issues :)
Do you have a recommendation for a gaming sleeve and in your opinion is it worth it? I play with my entire forearm on the pad so maybe it could lead to more consistency
Sleeve is worth it, but I usually use whatever I have here. Bunch of companies have sent me some and I've got few sports sleeves. All feel very similar
you know VGN Dragonfly F1? (I think the specs are too good for the price with a 55 gram nordic mcu and a PAW3395)
Have you ever figured out how to clean the black spots on the Vaxee PA?
preordered the saturn pro. gonna be replacing my aqua control plus
This mouse pad is my new gaming bribe! With it, my arrows take off like rockets, and my victories are as sweet as caramels! I recommend the DreamPad by Dream machines"
"Bros, the DreamPad XL is what you need to drive your gameplay! Games have never been so brilliant! I recommend the DreamPad from Dream machines
I bought myself the venus pro, i love it... but for some reason it wont stick to my desk... i cleaned the desk beforehand ... when i try it on my girlfriends desk, it does stick and stay in place like a brick... any tips on what i can do, i suppose the surface is just to slick
I haven't changed my mousepad since the Gamesense Radar release. I might try a new pad out just idk what one.
vaxee pa or g-sr-se when coming from qck heavy? which is better?
Have you tried the Odin Gaming Andromeda? It's supposedly the successor to the Eclipse.
I haven't sadly!
As with most gaming surfaces, the Dream machines DM Pad XXL has a rubber backing to help keep it in place while you play. This is a very useful feature that helps ensure stability during intense movements.
I bought the AC Zero based on this recommendation and I don't know if it was just my unit but, the mousepad is completely unusable if I press into it. Messed up my spray control for days until I realised it was the mousepad. It would just slow down infinitely the more pressure you put into it. Otherwise the speed and control were perfect.
Many mousepads have that as a feature. The thicker they are the more you can dig in for more control. Maybe you would enjoy a harder pad.
an update to this - I got used to the mouse and it's a great mouse for speed and microadjustments but it does have a slightly slow tug when adjusting over longer distances. feels like an actually controlled version of the Artisan Zero
Hi, I'm between the Razer Gigantus V2 Large mousepad and the Vaxee PA mousepad, which do you think is better? I don't care about the price difference, I mainly play valorant, cheers ^^
I'm still using the endgame mpc450 from your recommendation way way back
Venus pro looking mighty interesting!
my LGG Venus has more static friction than my QCK. Both by feel and if i measure it with a tilt test.
It's an old QCK from around 2015 though, maybe the new ones are different
Hey Haus, I love your videos! I was wondering how the AC Zero compares to the Odin Infinity? I currently have the Alexotos Deskpad version and have been wanting to branch out with some others. The Odin I feel is balanced leaning towards fast, so if the AC Zero feels balanced leaning towards control in comparison to the Infinity then I think it would be a good compliment
I'd say pretty much what you did!
You setup looks very slick, good quality videos. Thanks for the advice, i have the hayate otsu soft now, do you think it is worth getting the saturn pro as well?
Thanks bro! If you want a more controlled pad, then yes!
Im suprised for no Artisan on the list, my favorites Artisan Zero Soft for control and Artisan Hayate Otsu Xsoft for more speed. QCK Heavy was my main back in day but its inconsistent as hell. Im curious do you prefer Saturn Pro over Artisan Zero?
No consistency issues whatsoever with the QcK Heavy on my end! Maybe you are using it without a sports sleeve or a long sleeved shirt? For your question about Saturn Pro over Zero, it should be pretty clear after watching this video :)
my qck+ started to get slow after 6 months now, its harder to make micro adjustments, its only 18 euros tho, and even my cordura pads got slower by that point
QCK HEAVY best ever ) playing on it for 10 years )
how is the qck heavy now? has it lost consistency?
How long has it been since you've used your egg mpc450? I recently dug mine out of storage and was surprised hos good it actually is. Usually man skypad 2.0 and they feel like almost the same pad
It's an amazing pad, and it's been a while! I'm just more into balanced pads that are more control oriented at the moment!
How's your opinion on the phoenix se changed?
Do you not like the Artisan Hyate Otsu anymore?
Which has slower glide/more control, Saturn pro or Vaxee pa/GSR SE rouge?
Its nice u bring up the qck heavy cause im looking for replacement for it and i was planning to buy a original lgg saturn cause boardzy told that the og lgg saturn was slower than the saturn pro but in your review the saturn pro is the slower one. Now im really confuse which is really slower and closer to qck heavy pls help 😢
Are you sure boardzy said that? Pretty sure most reviews would agree with the Pro being slower!
What ur thinking about the Endgame Gear MPC890 ?
hello, which one should i choose between qck+ and this one? Thanks
Does the venus pro feel like the razer strider?
Is the QCK heavy good against humidity?
Wondering about the Lamzu Energon so just curious as why you included it in the honorable mentions? Isn't it a faster pad than the Hayate Otsu
Not faster than the Otsu imo! I more so mentioned Energon & ES2 because they are new and promising pads for what I've tested them. But I don't form a proper opinion about a mousepad before EXTENSIVE use these days. I tried to make this clear when talking about the honorable mentions!
@@hausgaming that's interesting, i thought the energon's speed was similar to the raidens! will you be uploading a review on the lamzu eventually?
On your mouse pad tier list from two years ago you rated the QcK heavy lowest down on the list?! What have changed since?
Didn't I explain it here? Most likely some silent changes have been made, as the durability is not horrific anymore! It used to be really bad.
Which is least affected by humidity ?
Tässä nyt käyttänny QCK-heavy XXL monen vuoden ajan ja nyt tullut mieleen, että voisipa vaihtaa. Oma MP, että olisiko parempi ostaa zero vai tuo saturni? Molemmilla sama hinta- sekä saatavuus. kynäriä ja codia tulee pelailtua sekä vähän runea, jossa tarkkuus / nopeus on aika tärkeä.
i bought an artisan hien xsoft and i kind of regret not getting the zero xl soft but artisan pads are so good and very good quality and its so good i might get another onebut now i will get the zero xl soft
The xm2we is out now will you make a review?
My channel has XM2we review!
@@hausgaming oh awesome!
what is better aqua control zero or gigantus v2?
Is the QCK Heavy logo still scratchy (and therefore that part not really usable), like it used to be back in the day?
Yes it is!
Oke I have hard time finding someone to stitch my Alcântara mousepad how can I sent you kopie
Are qck heavy and qck edge the same?
Hey Haus, does the Aqua control zero feel faster or slower than gse se rouge/pa? Just wondering about your thoughts. Thanks man.
I can't recall sadly! Been a while since I've used it. Both are balanced options and ones you should be able to get used to. The biggest difference between those is that PA/GSR-SE-Rouge or gris are smooth and the Zero is more textured.
@@hausgaming no worries man I know 5 months is like 5 years when you try as many things as you do. Thanks for the reply, and for the help.
Great video! How would you compare Xray AC Zero to Pulsar ES2 and/or Zowie G-SR?
AC Zero is a rougher surface, provides a lot of feedback and good control!
would you recommend one of these pads for someone who spends a lot of time improving mouse control and mainly plays games like overwatch and quake?
Any one of these is good for that!
Can you help me in case of the differences for Saturn Pro series.
I dont know the best way to go like xsoft, soft or mid.
Using Artisan Zero xsoft for 1 year and in comp games i feel like the mouse is diggin into the pad so i cant move for flicks or adjustments.
i highly dont want the same with the saturn pro.
Does the xsoft of LLG Saturn Pro feels the same like the Artisan Zero xsoft?
I would go for the soft, or even mid with the Saturn Pro if you dislike the XSoft!
basically what ive expected, though i kinda thought the es2 and gsrser/pa would be swapped. and of course no way i could expect a qck on this list specifically
I find the ES2 to be a worse version of the G-SR-SE Rouge/PA, I doubt it hits my list, even if my preference sticks with balanced end of control!
Why no superglide glass