Kevin is absolutely right about the word "Orison" . A word like that has no place in an English lesson that is intended for E.S. L. (English as a second language) students. This is the type of word that may belong in a spelling Bee. The word comes from the Latin "Oratio" It's also very close to óración": The Spanish word for prayer.
An orison is an old-fashioned or poetic word that means a prayer or a petition to God or a higher power. It’s often used in literature, especially in works with a religious or spiritual tone, to convey a sense of reverence or solemnity. For example: In Shakespeare's Hamlet, Ophelia says: "And for your orisons, be all my sins remembered." Here, "orisons" refers to prayers. It's not a commonly used term in modern English but remains significant in literary and historical contexts.
Rachel is also a singer. She is one of the best teachers. You're becoming a bully sir. If you don't know or you've never heard a word, just shut up. You're messing up the great work you started.
I noticed your comment about the pronunciation of 'grueling,' and I wanted to point out that both pronunciations are actually correct. The variation depends on regional accents, particularly between American and British English. In American English, it's commonly pronounced as /ˈɡruː.ə.lɪŋ/ (with three syllables), while in British English, it's more often /ˈɡruː.lɪŋ/ (with two syllables). Both forms are widely accepted and understood, so it's not accurate to label one as 'wrong.' Language evolves, and recognizing variations helps foster better understanding and inclusivity in communication. It might be worth clarifying this for your audience to avoid spreading misinformation.
Merriam-Webster has an explicit schwa in the transcriptions of "duel" and "gruel" and shows it as an optional sound in "fuel" and "cruel". Why should we avoid it if it is there? "Jewel" also has two variants there, with a schwa and without it.
"You are a good teacher, but I don't think it's fair for you to criticize another English teacher's work through this medium. Keep teaching correctly as you have always done; that criticism doesn't look good."
I like this channel better. Rachel didn't make a mistake but, here is the thing, I work in the USA, and interact with people in the medical field. Also we have a lot of non-native speakers from other countries. Nobody is using super fancy words in day-to-day interactions, so I prefer Kevin's approach. When I say some fancy word American coworkers just look at me funny. If I was an American person they would say I'm trying to show off, but since english is my first language, they know it, I just get made fun off....With foreigner co-workers is okay, they might not understand a word, so we just use another... I'll use a fancy word that doesn't really fit, but I wouldn't know that if someone didn't tell me that other words would be more commonly used and Kevin and Lisa are doing that. Honestly in my situation I prefer to be on the safe side, keeping it simple. I'm still learning.
Yeah, she's a native English teacher and speaker. It's just that she just taught a word that has the same meaning as "prayer" but it's so old that nobody uses it when speaking but the word does exist, she's not lying and that's not a mistake.
The dark L is a semivowel. The problem is that the schwa /ə/ before an L doesn't sound as the schwa in COMA /'koʊmə/, that's why words like TABLE are transcribed as /'teıbəl/ or /'teıbl/ in most dictionaries, also /'teıbəł/ or /'teıbł/ if the dark L symbol is used /ł/.
I really love the work you guys are doing. But correcting Rachel's example is a little too harsh. I'm a C2 non-native English speaker, I sure do know the word 'prayer', so learning something really niche and advanced like 'orison' makes no problem) It's interesting and thanks to Rachel's help now I'll be able to recognize it next time I hear or see it somewhere. She didn't make any mistakes, why come down on her? Still love you guys, no matter what❤
I think Kevin didn't point it out as a mistake, from my point of view he just said that it's an uncommonly used term, I mean, IF people talked to you they wouldn't use that term, they'd use "prayer" NOT "orison". But, on the other hand it's just good to know that word just in case you hear it you'll know what it means. Rachel wouldn't make mistakes like that 'cause English is her mother tongue, as simple as that.
@@fredylopez2477right, I totally see where Kevin is coming from. What he meant was that using 'orison' on a regular basis is a bad idea and would sound strange. Having said that, there's still no reason to criticize Rachel. It's just a little sad to know that there's some kind of friction between two good content creators.
Kevin hello, could you clear one day the difference between air conditioner and air conditioning? When do you use which? I find it very confusing. I love your videos!!!
Air conditioning (improving) definition: a system or process for controlling the indoor temperature and humidity: an air-conditioning system. There is another word for it - HVAC which stands for Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning . It is a system made of its components: duct work, a condenser, a thermostat and evaporator coil. It is also called *central* air-conditioning system. A wall unit is usually called an air conditioner. A wall mounted AC system has three main parts: 1) The indoor unit that cools the room, 2) The conduit or refrigerant line that connects the indoor and outdoor units, and 3) The outdoor condenser that sends the heat and moisture outside.BOTH, central systems and wall-mounted ACs CONDITION AIR, or improving air.
Pero esta vez NO es un error gramatical o de fonética, simplemente es una palabra que no es común y no se usa en el inglés hablado, no creo que Rachel cometa errores tan garrafales siendo el idioma inglés, su idioma materno. Considero que Kevin solo manifestó que NO es una palabra usada comúnmente en el idioma y que es mejor usar "prayer" la cual es mucho más común.
Orison is an archaic word, this means this word is in disuse. I believe you can use it depending on your audience of course you will not use it as often as prayer.
I don't think so, he's not obsessed, it's just that he teaches the real gramatically correct English, well pronounced English and the real life american English.
Utter nonsense. Thank you for this video as well, where you point out the mistakes made by the RUclipsr Linguamarina. Students can learn from these mistakes.
Isn't it better to say, "cat hunts a mouse" instead of confusing "preys", which one can understand ONLY from context? If you check autogenerated subtitles 1:17, you'll see that they say "cat prAys on a mause" all the time, which means absolutely different idea.
In my case the subtitles shows pray and at the same phrase, prey. 😂 I totally agree with you, that's the way I teach my students here in Brazil. If you have an easier option, use it!🎉
Tecnically, a mouse is a "prey" and a cat is the "predator", the same thing happens with "a lion and a gazelle". This fact should be taught to the students. I think it's better to say; "Cats hunt mice"
I didn't like or dislike just because of Rachel's unjustifiable criticism. The world doesn't revolve around you Kevin. There's no way you know every word in the English language. The word Rachel says is not common but it exists.
Yes, they wanted a formal and ceremonial in nature word and she answered correctly, because prayer is very common. Had they asked about a common synonym, orison would have been too much, but they didn't, so the title is just for clicks.
@@sophiedilmann3891 Yeah, it could be, I haven't watched that video from Rachel but it might be that someone asked her about a very formal word that can be a synonym for "prayer" and she answered correctly, she said "orison"
Living in US and pronaunce the words incorrect, its kind of inappropriate, cause even i living in Armenia, know that these words are mispronounced, and speak faster doesn't mean you know english. I appreciate your work.
I don't agree about the pronunciation of the word 'grueling'. Longman pronunciation dictionary as well as Cambridge dictionary give this transcription: /ˈɡruːᵊlɪŋ/. This symbol "ᵊ" means that the shwa sound can be inserted in this words. It means that both pronunciations are correct: with or without the shwa before the "l" consonant. To be fair, Marina makes a lot of mistakes, but as far as I understand, this one wasn't a mistake.
Dictionaries are correct, there's no doubt about it. BUT. Native speakers use only one of those pronunciations the most, I guess that's what Kevin meant to say in the video.
I wanna be as objective as I can and from an objective point of view, I can say that Dictionaries are correct, there's no doubt about it and Kevin knows that too BUT, He teaches real life american English, as he always says and some native English speakers don't always comply the Grammar rules of their own mother tongue, NOT because they don't know them, it's just that sometimes they don't care about them. Besides, maybe both pronunciations are correct according to dictionaries BUT one of those pronunciations is the most used one which is the one Kevin mentioned.
Kevin is absolutely right about the word "Orison" . A word like that has no place in an English lesson that is intended for E.S. L. (English as a second language) students. This is the type of word that may belong in a spelling Bee. The word comes from the Latin "Oratio" It's also very close to óración": The Spanish word for prayer.
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HAHAHA WORLD PEACE? Not in the channel 😂😂😂😂
It never gets old about Marina's mistakes and I love it!❤!
An orison is an old-fashioned or poetic word that means a prayer or a petition to God or a higher power. It’s often used in literature, especially in works with a religious or spiritual tone, to convey a sense of reverence or solemnity. For example:
In Shakespeare's Hamlet, Ophelia says:
"And for your orisons, be all my sins remembered."
Here, "orisons" refers to prayers. It's not a commonly used term in modern English but remains significant in literary and historical contexts.
😂for someone studying ancient English would be helpful 😅
@@mariashevyrova3730Go back to the Shakespeare's time
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Or English literature
Rachel is also a singer. She is one of the best teachers.
You're becoming a bully sir. If you don't know or you've never heard a word, just shut up. You're messing up the great work you started.
I noticed your comment about the pronunciation of 'grueling,' and I wanted to point out that both pronunciations are actually correct. The variation depends on regional accents, particularly between American and British English.
In American English, it's commonly pronounced as /ˈɡruː.ə.lɪŋ/ (with three syllables), while in British English, it's more often /ˈɡruː.lɪŋ/ (with two syllables). Both forms are widely accepted and understood, so it's not accurate to label one as 'wrong.' Language evolves, and recognizing variations helps foster better understanding and inclusivity in communication.
It might be worth clarifying this for your audience to avoid spreading misinformation.
Thank you for teaching us correct English. As English learners, we need to get accurate and reliable information.
Merriam-Webster has an explicit schwa in the transcriptions of "duel" and "gruel" and shows it as an optional sound in "fuel" and "cruel". Why should we avoid it if it is there?
"Jewel" also has two variants there, with a schwa and without it.
Thank you for your videos!!
So great to know what the mistakes are and what is correct!!
It's part of my training, like the word orison.
Have to learn how to pronounce the word orison, but going to choose the word prayer.
"You are a good teacher, but I don't think it's fair for you to criticize another English teacher's work through this medium. Keep teaching correctly as you have always done; that criticism doesn't look good."
I love all of you. I'm really learning English
Thank you 👍 ❤.
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Very interesting class 👏 👍
Kevin and Liza are the boss of English.
Thank you very much sir.
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I like this channel better. Rachel didn't make a mistake but, here is the thing, I work in the USA, and interact with people in the medical field. Also we have a lot of non-native speakers from other countries. Nobody is using super fancy words in day-to-day interactions, so I prefer Kevin's approach. When I say some fancy word American coworkers just look at me funny. If I was an American person they would say I'm trying to show off, but since english is my first language, they know it, I just get made fun off....With foreigner co-workers is okay, they might not understand a word, so we just use another... I'll use a fancy word that doesn't really fit, but I wouldn't know that if someone didn't tell me that other words would be more commonly used and Kevin and Lisa are doing that. Honestly in my situation I prefer to be on the safe side, keeping it simple. I'm still learning.
Your teaching method stands out from the rest of RUclipsrs.
I got hand it to you
Excellent!!
Great as always 👏👏
But Rachel is also a native English speaker.
I don't think she's native....
Yeah, she's a native English teacher and speaker.
It's just that she just taught a word that has the same meaning as "prayer" but it's so old that nobody uses it when speaking but the word does exist, she's not lying and that's not a mistake.
@@javirodriguez5617 Then you know nothing about a native speaker. Even a five-year-old can tell Rachel is a native speaker.
The dark L is a semivowel. The problem is that the schwa /ə/ before an L doesn't sound as the schwa in COMA /'koʊmə/, that's why words like TABLE are transcribed as /'teıbəl/ or /'teıbl/ in most dictionaries, also /'teıbəł/ or /'teıbł/ if the dark L symbol is used /ł/.
I really love the work you guys are doing. But correcting Rachel's example is a little too harsh. I'm a C2 non-native English speaker, I sure do know the word 'prayer', so learning something really niche and advanced like 'orison' makes no problem) It's interesting and thanks to Rachel's help now I'll be able to recognize it next time I hear or see it somewhere. She didn't make any mistakes, why come down on her?
Still love you guys, no matter what❤
I think Kevin didn't point it out as a mistake, from my point of view he just said that it's an uncommonly used term, I mean, IF people talked to you they wouldn't use that term, they'd use "prayer" NOT "orison".
But, on the other hand it's just good to know that word just in case you hear it you'll know what it means.
Rachel wouldn't make mistakes like that 'cause English is her mother tongue, as simple as that.
@@fredylopez2477right, I totally see where Kevin is coming from. What he meant was that using 'orison' on a regular basis is a bad idea and would sound strange. Having said that, there's still no reason to criticize Rachel. It's just a little sad to know that there's some kind of friction between two good content creators.
uphill both ways - that was cool
Thank you 😊
Sorry, I love Rachel's English and Rachel. She is a great teacher.
Hi Kevin, I am sure that after this video, everyone watching your channel will remember the word "orison". That's because you told us not to use it 🙂.
Can you talk about pronunciation of words with and without cot-caught merger in your future video? Thanks
In french you have ""oraison funébre" which can be translated by "eulogy".
Thank you for providing us with an insightful and informative lesson. We appreciate the free context you've given.
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Kevin hello, could you clear one day the difference between air conditioner and air conditioning? When do you use which? I find it very confusing.
I love your videos!!!
Air conditioning (improving) definition: a system or process for controlling the indoor temperature and humidity: an air-conditioning system. There is another word for it - HVAC which stands for Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning . It is a system made of its components: duct work, a condenser, a thermostat and evaporator coil. It is also called *central* air-conditioning system. A wall unit is usually called an air conditioner. A wall mounted AC system has three main parts: 1) The indoor unit that cools the room, 2) The conduit or refrigerant line that connects the indoor and outdoor units, and 3) The outdoor condenser that sends the heat and moisture outside.BOTH, central systems and wall-mounted ACs CONDITION AIR, or improving air.
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I guess you work on that, 'cause you gave an extent explanation.
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Hi, who can tell me the exact time of this video where there is the correction of Rachel's mistakes. Thanks.
@@samju646 Well, that wasn't really a correction.
That's right, it wasn't a correction, it was just the exposition of a fact, that's all.
Este man no perdona a nadie xd
Jajajaja justo lo mismo que pensé.
Para mí uno de los mejores maestros en inglés
Que par de ¡máquinas! Kevin and Liza.
Pero esta vez NO es un error gramatical o de fonética, simplemente es una palabra que no es común y no se usa en el inglés hablado, no creo que Rachel cometa errores tan garrafales siendo el idioma inglés, su idioma materno.
Considero que Kevin solo manifestó que NO es una palabra usada comúnmente en el idioma y que es mejor usar "prayer" la cual es mucho más común.
Orison is an archaic word, this means this word is in disuse. I believe you can use it depending on your audience of course you will not use it as often as prayer.
1:48 Is Kevin obsessed with criminal examples? There seems to be a pattern.
Kevin and Liza are the best Police Grammar!.
I don't think so, he's not obsessed, it's just that he teaches the real gramatically correct English, well pronounced English and the real life american English.
Rachel’s is my best teacher in American
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Gorgeous → Argeous ？
Bomb → Calm (Marina's pronunciation of "comb") 🙂.
I like that guy he's looking like a serial killer who's preying on a single woman 😊
A real teacher is better than a fake one.
Utter nonsense. Thank you for this video as well, where you point out the mistakes made by the RUclipsr Linguamarina. Students can learn from these mistakes.
Orison, "orazione" in Italian, a prayer. But, as Kevin suggests, it is not "real life" American English.
Isn't it better to say, "cat hunts a mouse" instead of confusing "preys", which one can understand ONLY from context? If you check autogenerated subtitles 1:17, you'll see that they say "cat prAys on a mause" all the time, which means absolutely different idea.
In my case the subtitles shows pray and at the same phrase, prey. 😂 I totally agree with you, that's the way I teach my students here in Brazil. If you have an easier option, use it!🎉
Tecnically, a mouse is a "prey" and a cat is the "predator", the same thing happens with "a lion and a gazelle".
This fact should be taught to the students.
I think it's better to say;
"Cats hunt mice"
Everyone tell us that the best way to learn something is studying on someone's mistakes. These videos are the best way to do it.
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Why he doesn't blink? 😲
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@coyotl23 I really wonder
He blinks once in a while, it's just that it's a little bit hard to notice it.
@@fredylopez2477 kinda creep 😂🤣
I didn't like or dislike just because of Rachel's unjustifiable criticism. The world doesn't revolve around you Kevin. There's no way you know every word in the English language. The word Rachel says is not common but it exists.
It doesn't matter whether it exists or not, we just want real, everyday English that we can use
Yes, they wanted a formal and ceremonial in nature word and she answered correctly, because prayer is very common. Had they asked about a common synonym, orison would have been too much, but they didn't, so the title is just for clicks.
@@santialexeeTrue. *EVERYDAY* American English
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Yeah, it could be, I haven't watched that video from Rachel but it might be that someone asked her about a very formal word that can be a synonym for "prayer" and she answered correctly, she said "orison"
Living in US and pronaunce the words incorrect, its kind of inappropriate, cause even i living in Armenia, know that these words are mispronounced, and speak faster doesn't mean you know english. I appreciate your work.
Exactly pal.
"Speaking faster DOESN'T mean you know correct English".
# This is what Linguamarina does just to mislead subscribers.
Rachel was probably drunk when she made that video. That's the only explanation.
I don't agree about the pronunciation of the word 'grueling'. Longman pronunciation dictionary as well as Cambridge dictionary give this transcription: /ˈɡruːᵊlɪŋ/. This symbol "ᵊ" means that the shwa sound can be inserted in this words. It means that both pronunciations are correct: with or without the shwa before the "l" consonant. To be fair, Marina makes a lot of mistakes, but as far as I understand, this one wasn't a mistake.
Dictionaries are correct, there's no doubt about it.
BUT.
Native speakers use only one of those pronunciations the most, I guess that's what Kevin meant to say in the video.
Well, correcting the pronunciation of grueling was a bit over the top. /ˈɡɹu.lɪŋ/ and /ˈɡɹu.əl.ɪŋ/ are both correct.
Well, it's the same as "clothes" pronounced /kloʊðz/ in dictionaries and nobody says it that way. That's the point.
I wanna be as objective as I can and from an objective point of view, I can say that Dictionaries are correct, there's no doubt about it and Kevin knows that too
BUT,
He teaches real life american English, as he always says and some native English speakers don't always comply the Grammar rules of their own mother tongue, NOT because they don't know them, it's just that sometimes they don't care about them.
Besides, maybe both pronunciations are correct according to dictionaries BUT one of those pronunciations is the most used one which is the one Kevin mentioned.