Yep it was more aimed at the F1 box in the Ferrari. Matt Farah is the one I remember hearing about the Aston being so bad he spent tens of thousands to get it to be a manual. Ended up finding out underneath it’s a H pattern box with a robot shifting it. But let’s be honest the v12 is two Taurus V6s welded together and today AM has a AMG German biturbo so officially complaining about it being bad at shifting is just funny. Because no one daily’s a car that was one of.. a few thousand made?
Sounds like Aston Martin was on the verge of EXTINCTION before Ford bought them. So would it be correct to actually THANK Ford for today's Aston Martin? PS: this Vanquish is a classy and very good looking car......great video Tyler.
I was the engineer for Aston who was tasked with fixing the flappy paddle issues and we did. Reach out to me Hoovie if you want to know more. Biggest fun is put it in ASM mode drive at 50mph it will then go into sixth gear. Floor the pedal and it will drop 3 gears and take off like a bat out of hell. Most important is to swap out the ASM fluid (Tutela same as Fiat fluid) especially the clutch line.
There needs to be more long term secret cars left for actual enthusiasts. The world doesnt need another cool car being priced into the stratosphere. Theres nothing wrong with over looked and undervalued cars, that just gives regular people with some extra cash a chance to experience them.
@@Michaelation08 The worst is people like me. I used to import JDM cars to the UK. Grade 5vis basically new. Grade 4 is like a great 1 year old condition car. Grade 3.5 is a great condition car that might have a scuff on a splitter. I used to pay 5k for R32 GTRs and Supra TT 6speeds. Sell them for 8k and think I was a master. I bought a 28k mile 1994 180SX Turbo (SR) full service Grade 4, I paid £1350 (1800usd) and sold it for 4k. God I wish I'd held on to just 2 or 3 of them 😔
@@Michaelation08 I just bought a pontiac solstice gxp for under 10k with 90k miles on it... rough around the edges but one of THE MOST underrated go karts out there. Smokes any miata damn near any day.
@@realMaverickBuckley I financed my whole car-owning and -driving that way back in the eighties and nineties as an adventurous lad always on the road ..... got scrapped Alfa, Lancia, Zagato, Frua, Vignale and Bertone cars from a couple scrappers and "Elettrautos" I knew personally in Italy, brought those into Germany, welded, registered, tuned and drove those buggers for a month or three and sold 'em to the nutjobs wanting just another Alfa, Lancia or Zagato around my whereabouts ..... Sold cars costing six digits today for four digit sums and was happy because it made possible to get another four of the three digit abandoned ones from down there. Same with the Ducatis, Moto Guzzis, Laverdas, MVs and Benellis we literally swapped for mere parts of BMW K- and R-bikes .... Would I just have kept _one_ of the 750 super sports or Hailwood Rep's ..... Anyway, still biking, still racing the vintage Bertone I actually did hold onto, and fun is the one thing we shouldn't forget about having every day, right?
@@JackBWatkins surely a Q tune up is fitting the guns, smokescreen, bulletproof shield, invisibility system etc. The most expensive "tune" of all time.
Until the real mechanic JARED will fix it just like he did with all Freddie's cars... he saved Freddie's channel because Freddie the hack cant fix shit... He has the worst channel and gives JARED no respect or credit... Every 1 of Freddie's projects were sitting for years cause Freddie has no idea how to fix a car...
Umm… from what I remember of Clarkson’s review then the issue was really in (British) town traffic and tight manoeuvres like parallel parking rather than a highway on ramp.
I'm so glad Freddie no longer has this car. Otherwise it will sit for the rest of its life. He had it for 1 and a half years and did nothing with it. Now that Tyler has it, it will be brought to its former glory. Finally!
Every time Eddie buys a car, there's a solid chance we never see it again. That Alpina Hoovie intended for Car Trek is probably the last time we see it, and the 308 would be sitting in a yard somewhere still if Wizard hadn't bought it
Crazy to think that I’ve never owned a Maserati Ghibli, but every time I see one I think about a tube of toothpaste fitting in the panel gaps 😂 Doug seems to have the same effect
Aston Martin is supposed to be a gentleman's brand (an alternative to Jaguar perhaps). How are you supposed to act gentlemanly when your head is bobbing up and down like a yabo. Even when you drive normally and gentlemanly it's making you do that. I think that's where Jeremy Clarkson was coming from. (I would have to watch the episode again to be sure.)
@@01Bouwhuis How did Hoovie get his wealth anyways? I've been watching him from the very beginning (I think he was three videos in) and everything I have observed from him suggest that he comes from great wealth. Don't get me started. . . . His uncle bought a Mercedes on the spot and out of spite for some guy in the bar, then went back to to brag. (This is a real story Hoovie told although I'm strongly paraphrasing ) Perhaps I'm being overly suspicious and need help. I just have a cynical nature to my curiosity and every time I've tried to stop I've gotten taken advantage of.
You should try to recreate the “the backing up a boat ramp” scene that Jeremy did (and is still emblazoned in my memory), and see if it is as bad as he says it was.
I seem to remember Clarkson's big issue was with 'low speed' maneuverability. Such as navigating parking lots, driving on inclines, etc. I don't think he really had any problem with it on a track, or just driving on a highway...
If you’ve ever driven an early paddle shift car, you know exactly what he was referring to. The early cars couldn’t manage low speed at all when auto was turned on, and it’s even harder to do it with auto off.
Very much this! He never really complained _that much_ about these issues on Ferraris of the time, but he saw the Aston as a Grand Tourer/daily driver, and low speed driveability matters there.
on the streets yes. On the track it was the downshifts mostly. A manual you can just ram into 2nd gear and floor it, with the paddles you have to walk it all the way down.
The way it uses the clutch is also clunky. You can't really adjust the aggressiveness of the clutch action on the fly (unlike a manual transmission). Also if you compare it with same sequential transmissions in racecars (WRC, GT1, GT3....), it's slower to shift. Ferrari managed to do it better (still clunky in automatic mode though).
Glad someone said it. Right of way goes to vehicles already on the carriage way, not vehicles joining. The amount of people that seem to think it's the other way around is insane.
Great review. I have a 2002 Vanquish and entirely agree. I had a manual conversion ordered and changed my mind. The flappy paddle madness has grown on me. Great car, even better value.
Personally I would not care about the slow gear changes. I'm not going to be drag racing Dodge Hellcats at traffic signals. It's a beautiful car and I would love to have one.
Well said. We want a good looking car that is decent fun to drive whilst we go about our biz. I want a car that makes doing "essential yet boring life-stuff" more fun than it should be :^)
It fits the character of the v12 more. the way it cuts out and re-engages sound so beautiful. cars of this type are meant to be enjoyed more than to be raced.
This was the very first V12 engine I ever laid eyes on for real in the flesh. I was so excited to see it! It felt so exotic like I had to ask permission simply to look at it. I also remember driving this car in a few Bond video games! These were so effing cool!
I like the idea of flappy paddles, but I do think you're a bit blind to it (with previous examples). For instance here, he wasn't really saying much about how slow it was, instead he was mostly talking about how much the car would lurch when changing. A manual will lurch too, but as the driver you wouldn't notice it as much because you're the one in control
when merging on to a freeway it is the responsibility of the one doing the merging to adjust their speed accordingly. and is definitely NOT the responsibility of those already on the freeway to either accelerate, decelerate or change lanes to avoid an accident.
Very true, but I consider it a dick move if the passing lane is empty and you don't move over. Legally you are correct, it's just rude. Edit: I consider
@@dwarf365 also rude to come storming onto the empty highway not paying attention and expecting them to move over for you. Then what typically happens is the fool in the merging vehicle sits right next to that person preventing them from moving back into the travel lane. Pay attention while you are driving, learn how to merge.
@@Wikcentral one hundred percent. I'm not trying to remove blame, Hoovie wasn't paying attention at all. I find it rude because if I can move over (semi, truck or car) I do and I find it inconsiderate if others don't.
Velcro for interior access is an excellent idea! I have worked on an airplane that all the cockpit interior was held in place with Velcro. So much easier to work on than the other ones screwed together.
@@andypullin4702 in plumbing it’s the same way with old fine thread brass pipe and fittings,you have to look at quick before it notices you look at it and it decides to break
The issue with Clarkson, is that he would exaggerate issues with cars to poke fun at them, so it's hard to always believe what he said about cars. I mean, the guy had his team mod his Reliant Robin so it would always end up on its side, just to show how unstable it was. So yeah. Like this car, like the black wheels, but those AM from that era all look the same to me.
Same with the Ford GT. He made it sound like its such an unreliable mess when all his issues were pretty much solely the bad aftermarket alarm system he put on it. Still mad him for ruining that cars reputation lol.
It is possible, that to his understanding during his review, he expected more from that model and the brand; His reviews were harsh, but remember who the customer base for those vehicles were at that time and the competition Aston Martin was facing, his review probably had some merit. In addition, automated manuals were new to alot of drivers, it is a lot like when Nissan began to introduced or what i called "forced fed" the CVT transmission to their product lineup back in 2003...The reviews by the media were brutal to say the least.
Regarding the CVT, True that. Once people learned that they are a different kind of transmission all together, and learned how to use/how to drive them, (what to do and what NOT to do with them) (AND HOW TO MAINTAIN THEM) honestly it really is a useful interesting & functional bit of technology!
I know a guy who bought a Vanquish. He was so happy to finally own his dream car. A year later he traded it for a Ferrari 458. I haven't had a chance to ask him why he got rid of his dream car so quickly. Or why he didn't buy a Huracan instead.
Love your series Tyler. I just wanted to let you know how entertaining it is and how much I really look forward to watching. Keep up the goofiness and humor. What ever happened to the SSR?
It's an automated manual. The gears are controlled by solenoids. This is awesome. The E46 M3 SMG did the same thing and thats not a slow shifter by any means
You're right about the island of Clarksons. Another good one was his comment about Mk2 Focus STs tOrQuE sTeeR and thats all anybody ever said about the car. It wasn't even that bad either, yes it does steer by itself if you let go of the wheel and floor it, but you can counter that by HOLDING THE FUCKIN WHEEL
Plus that's true of ALL front wheel drive cars with enough power to spin the tires. The only way to eliminate it is to have captain slow levels of power. Yes there are some steering geometry designs that can increase or decrease it but not eliminate it entirely. Or I guess you could go to steer by wire to eliminate it.
Clarkson’s problem with the gearbox was driving it in town mostly and that it was slow to shift on the track, it only worked ok for the highway. In a car at that price (from new) was a bad product.. he is still right, you getting it for 20-30% of its original prise then it’s okay, but it’s still a beautiful car and wish I could afford it..
To this day people still use the term 'flappy paddle' 🤣🤣🤣 Honestly, I don't think he hated the Vanquish, he simply hated the change from a gearstick to any flappy paddled gearbox. He has gotten used to them now. (as Hoovie added)
If the car is an automated manual you can just remove the actuators and have an engineer design a selector, and maybe some ECU flashing. That would be cheaper and then you can sell the kit. Kind of the same process that BMW e46 people do with their transmission. Only difference is that you can get those parts from a manual car
There are several kits to convert these to manual. They seem to cost between 20-30k USD. Still he would be less than 100k USD in to the car and thats not to bad for a fairly modern V12 manual sportscar, even if has a somewhat shady history.
Jaguar key? That looks like my 1988 Ford Sierra key? That key had the nifty feature that you could lock every other Ford Sierra with it. Something I proved to my mother when I locked her Sierra - with my Sierra key. Only one thing. She had her keys in the car. Needless to say, I wasn´t her favorite kid that day...
Clarkson had too much sway in the late 1990's and early 2000's. That one man's opinion buried many good cars and perhaps even brands. He seemed to have a particular dislike for all British car company's, many times without any real reason. He was far better as an entertainer once Top Gear went that way, than he ever was as a serious and impartial car journalist.
He also considered the Aston Martin DB7 the coolest car in the world for a long time, and I doubt that hurt Aston Martin's reputation. Mostly he was kind to the brand - he always praised the styling and the interiors.
It's not surprising he had a dislike for British car companies. The BL strikes, outdated, rust-prone unreliable cars which were 20 years behind other manufacturers.
I mean it seems like a pretty slow transmission 🤣 But yes, Clarkson was an entertained not a serious car reviewer. His opinions are best taken with a pinch of salt.
The reason why Clarkson is having a go on it, is when the car was new and you buy at that high price point. You dont expect it to be that slow at gear shifting. As a car review, have a drive in a new car. Of course you have to say whats wrong. Because the gear shift on that car is really slow.
I think Tyler is just saying it's not so bad so the prices will rise on these and he can make a profit later. He's not a stupid guy. We tend to underestimate Hoovie. Most of this video seemed to be him trying to increase the value of this car.
@@tecnofreak666 he even compared it to the DB9 that had a ZF6 automatic which was much better to use, despite it having less power and less focused on track driving.
Bro we can see your comment history, all you do is hate on every single video and constantly go on about how you’re gonna unsubscribe but you never actually do. So please kindly shut up for once.
Clarksons hatred of flappy paddles especially in the Aston is that they are jerky and unrefined in traffic and from pulling away in stop start traffic when compared to a ZF auto
The Volkswagen doesn’t have to get over. You are merging into their lane. Thus, you need to either speed up to get in front of them or slow down to get behind them. Geez!
I’ve driven quite a few miles in a Vanquish S and I love the flappy paddle gearbox, they improved the box a little in the S but I don’t have any problems with it, it’s better when the car’s warm, then it’s fantastic
Jeremy Clarkson absolutely hates all "Flappy Paddle Gear Boxes" with a passion. He hated the gearbox on this Aston Martin because he basically thought adding the gearbox type to this iconic British car brand was "Sacrilege". I think it was a generational thing, the flappy paddle gear box in road legal sports cars was "relatively new" back then and we have had 20+ years to get used to them.
Not really a generational thing. All the early iterations of the flappy paddle gearbox (Lambo E gear, Ferrari F1, BMW SMG and whatever nonesence this Aston uses) were garbage. They only got good around the late 2000s and became truly exceptional with the introduction of the double clutch technology in the 2010s.
Plenty of Ferraris he's liked with flappy paddle shifters. A lot of the problem of cars of this era is the big jerk as the gearbox dips the clutch and shunts it back in again in the next gear. BMW M6 was like this as well, even shunts when driven gently. More aggressive than a conventional auto, but not as smooth to drive
@@MikaelLevoniemi DSG is alright for a daily but I still find it boring, given the choice of a TDI or GTI with DSG I would rather drive the TDI, GTI and R would be manual for sure as I like fun cars, and faster does not always mean fun.
My take is, if you don't use the car for racing, it shifts FINE. Too many "Car Guys" want a twitchy-instant shift. Only place that COULD be useful is on the track. But not sure I would want that the other 98% of the time, driving it normally. Manual conversion?? NO. You could buy another car for that kind of money!!
People that expect others to "get out of THEIR way" when entering the highway are entitled and possibly ignorant (Hoovie excluded, of course 🙄). Remember kids, always yield to traffic when merging!
If there is no one in the other lane it is just right to do it. I move out of the way for people when I can I don’t just expect others to if I wouldn’t.
@Jim jibroni maybe the government should start doing public service announcements again...do they still, i don't have regular tv anymore. It seems that people don't know the rules anymore.
You're wrong... The World is not Enough is the greatest Bond movie. Also, I have driven Kneeland Youngblood's v12 DB9 on several occasions (on the highway as an airport valet) The takeaways aren't how bad the transmission is, it is the odd placement of the key in the dash and the backwards tachometer.
It seems that Velcro is under appreciated just like your Aston Martin. Velcro is a shortening of Velours Crochet meaning Velvet Hook! It's invention was actually inspired from burs from plant seeds that stick to clothes or animal fur. The company was founded in the 1950s and currently employs about 2500 people across 7 manufacturing facilities globally! Originally envisioned as a fastener for clothing, today, Velcro is used across a wide array of industries and applications; including healthcare, the military, land vehicles, aircraft, and even spacecraft!
Honestly, I reckon in 2058 we'll be admiring the Vanquish as a timeless beautiful classic in the exact same way the DB5 is viewed today. The hips, the eyeliner around the headlights, the quality of materials in the interior, and the way the Tungsten Silver paint shines in the light... just a truly beautiful car.
I’ve got a question I always wanted to ask: What’s with the shoes, Hoovie? I always thought you Americans are the definition of cool exporting style all across the world. At least in Germany (where I’m from) the kids still look very „americanized“ and do so since I was a youth 25 years ago. But nobody would wear THESE shoes 🤪 And people are making fun about „ze Germans“ for wearing tube socks in sandals… Still… keep doing your stuff! I enjoy it very much! Thanks!
As a long time valet, I’ve gotten to drive plenty of Aston’s, and I absolutely love these cars. As far as affordable Aston’s go, the older vantage, vanquish, Rapide, and DB9 are incredibly fantastic cars, especially for the price range you can find them at. I’d love to get my hands on one 😩 Every time I hear someone talk about a Lamborghini Murcielago, Ed’s voice saying “murse-see-el-ago” pops into my head
Well you sir are wrong because I own the most famously hated car of Top Gear and that is the Lexus SC430 and while it’s not the fastest car I love it Toyota bones and reliability it’s a great car that I’ve daily driven for years so I believe that beats you.
I've got a 2017 GTI with a dual clutch. If I ask it to reverse up a steep hill it shits a brick. Super jerky, the time between the brake being released and the clutch engaging isn't consistent, etc. If you're in a tight spot it's really unnerving. Even sketchier if you're ok gravel or another loose surface. Id rather be in a manual in that situation, I'm not an amazing stick driver but I can slip a clutch properly in reverse
@@stuartstogdill2406 yes it is and you've clearly never been in a dual clutch reversing from a stop on a steep hill. Car just freaks out. Dual clutches don't like slipping the clutch so if you're not ready to actually give it some gas it grabs and releases. If you're on gravel attempting to reverse up the hill and you've gotta give it gas you're going to spin. In literally every other scenario the transmission is absolutely fantastic
Customer of mine had a new Aston Martin. Bits of trim would just fall off it on his drive. The drivers window would come down by itself overnight. He had new brake pads put on front (pads, not discs) £1500
Love these cars, my one problem is it has many hand me downs from Jaguar. Outer door handles and mirrors are from the XK8, interior climate controls are from an XJ8 and the seat warmers/hazzard buttons are from the XK8 and many many more.
Aston were always users of hand-me-downs; parts-bin specials. Maybe not so much in the 1950s, or perhaps even the 60s, but when the oil crises hit and Aston went into their 70s dry spell, they were using all sorts of components from major suppliers. From their point of view it made a lot of sense - the bought-in components were properly engineered and manufactured, cheap because of volume, and most likely with a budget that exceeded Aston's budget for the engine.
I actually like the way it shifts. It shifts like we shift manual cars 95% of the time. Definitely not a drag racer, but such a good grand touring car and that’s exactly what it is.
If I heard the car going down the street and didn't know better, I'd say it sounded like a manual car shifting. It's a little slow for a DCT, but not terrible for drivers who aren't that concerned about it.
I think Hoovie meant to say was 'this car went into the annuals of history' what he said was @13:05, which if true, respect and should increase the value from now on, now the truth is out....
When traveling up an on-ramp you yield to the highway Tyler. Traffic does not get over for you to get on. Either you hit the gas to get up to speed or you wait…
"Silly Flappy Paddle Gearbox" - I'll always remember Clarkson for that quote.
Yep it was more aimed at the F1 box in the Ferrari. Matt Farah is the one I remember hearing about the Aston being so bad he spent tens of thousands to get it to be a manual. Ended up finding out underneath it’s a H pattern box with a robot shifting it. But let’s be honest the v12 is two Taurus V6s welded together and today AM has a AMG German biturbo so officially complaining about it being bad at shifting is just funny. Because no one daily’s a car that was one of.. a few thousand made?
The best quotes...
In the world. 😂
@@TheNiteinjail look it’s an cow
Along with “In the plums”
Quality quotation.
@@oolavitzoo indeed it was with flappy paddles😂.
But a 575 Maranello manual, black with tan interior would be my choice🥰 I think Mr Bean had one.
Sounds like Aston Martin was on the verge of EXTINCTION before Ford bought them. So would it be correct to actually THANK Ford for today's Aston Martin? PS: this Vanquish is a classy and very good looking car......great video Tyler.
Looks like Wizard is going to be able to afford to fuel his boat again- Wonderful car no matter what!
And a crappy old boat it is.
Someone has to pay to send Wizard's kids through school
Nice bodywork and interior luxury. Mechanics. Cuestionable
@@carlosoruna7174 You've just summed up most UK High end cars!
@@colinritchie1757 most high end cars. UK italy germany and a tad less japan. Pray nothing breaks. And it will.
I was the engineer for Aston who was tasked with fixing the flappy paddle issues and we did.
Reach out to me Hoovie if you want to know more.
Biggest fun is put it in ASM mode drive at 50mph it will then go into sixth gear. Floor the pedal and it will drop 3 gears and take off like a bat out of hell.
Most important is to swap out the ASM fluid (Tutela same as Fiat fluid) especially the clutch line.
Coolant sensor is a Jaguar part. Probably 2000 XJ can’t remember exactly.
I have seller's remorse.
Just look at your DBS, that'll make you happy.
I have a feeling Tavarish you sold this car as many times as you drove it
@@Bigdog78901 So never
There needs to be more long term secret cars left for actual enthusiasts. The world doesnt need another cool car being priced into the stratosphere. Theres nothing wrong with over looked and undervalued cars, that just gives regular people with some extra cash a chance to experience them.
I was thinking that same thing, then I saw a Dodge Shadow turbo for sale for almost 20k so I just stay in my room and keep dreaming lol
@@Michaelation08 The worst is people like me. I used to import JDM cars to the UK.
Grade 5vis basically new. Grade 4 is like a great 1 year old condition car. Grade 3.5 is a great condition car that might have a scuff on a splitter.
I used to pay 5k for R32 GTRs and Supra TT 6speeds. Sell them for 8k and think I was a master. I bought a 28k mile 1994 180SX Turbo (SR) full service Grade 4, I paid £1350 (1800usd) and sold it for 4k.
God I wish I'd held on to just 2 or 3 of them 😔
@@Michaelation08 I just bought a pontiac solstice gxp for under 10k with 90k miles on it... rough around the edges but one of THE MOST underrated go karts out there. Smokes any miata damn near any day.
@@GOLD_FEVER had a buddy back in the day with a coupe version. That car was one of the best little cars I have ever driven.
@@realMaverickBuckley I financed my whole car-owning and -driving that way back in the eighties and nineties as an adventurous lad always on the road ..... got scrapped Alfa, Lancia, Zagato, Frua, Vignale and Bertone cars from a couple scrappers and "Elettrautos" I knew personally in Italy, brought those into Germany, welded, registered, tuned and drove those buggers for a month or three and sold 'em to the nutjobs wanting just another Alfa, Lancia or Zagato around my whereabouts ..... Sold cars costing six digits today for four digit sums and was happy because it made possible to get another four of the three digit abandoned ones from down there. Same with the Ducatis, Moto Guzzis, Laverdas, MVs and Benellis we literally swapped for mere parts of BMW K- and R-bikes .... Would I just have kept _one_ of the 750 super sports or Hailwood Rep's .....
Anyway, still biking, still racing the vintage Bertone I actually did hold onto, and fun is the one thing we shouldn't forget about having every day, right?
The smile on Wizards face 🤗 when he tells Hoovie the tune-up won't be cheap
I wonder what Q charged for a tune up? Oh, well Bond just charged it to the Queen.
My mechanic had a similar grin when a customer arrived with an Arnage bought without a PPI !!
@@JackBWatkins surely a Q tune up is fitting the guns, smokescreen, bulletproof shield, invisibility system etc. The most expensive "tune" of all time.
@@crazyfroggie6546 Those damn accessories. Expensive!!!!
He doesn’t do tune ups though!!
I guess if you pay Ferrari prices for a performance car you expect more than "It's really not that bad."
I laughed when Tyler said Freddie was going to convert it to manual. It could have sat next to his SL55 forever.
And Tyler's Ferrari.
Until the real mechanic JARED will fix it just like he did with all Freddie's cars... he saved Freddie's channel because Freddie the hack cant fix shit... He has the worst channel and gives JARED no respect or credit... Every 1 of Freddie's projects were sitting for years cause Freddie has no idea how to fix a car...
@@aceventura1980 what’s your channel?
@@BobbyontheAir I have a real life not 1 where I can talk to myself on camera and have friends like Tyler that can promote me...
@@BobbyontheAir Weak argument
Umm… from what I remember of Clarkson’s review then the issue was really in (British) town traffic and tight manoeuvres like parallel parking rather than a highway on ramp.
I'm so glad Freddie no longer has this car. Otherwise it will sit for the rest of its life. He had it for 1 and a half years and did nothing with it. Now that Tyler has it, it will be brought to its former glory. Finally!
Tbf freddie sounds like the winner from it, owned it for a year and a half, did absolutely nothing and made nearly 20k out of it
Every time Eddie buys a car, there's a solid chance we never see it again. That Alpina Hoovie intended for Car Trek is probably the last time we see it, and the 308 would be sitting in a yard somewhere still if Wizard hadn't bought it
@@Rextraordinaire Wot Alpine? The A110? How would Freddie have it?
@@Lburt07 in the last video hoovie anounced that he sold it to tavarish.
Hopefully he convert this to a manual.
Lets see the shifting in automatic mode if its so good 😁
A robot clutch does not make mistakes unless something is wrong with it
The iconic Sloppy Seconds Car Trek Vanquish, first it was Ed's, then it Tavarish's and now it's Tyler's! I expect it to be back to Ed soon! 😂
With no issues and a hefty deduction for him
I did a chinese food Mukbang inside Lowes in my recent RUclips Video 👀
Didn't this car originally belong to Doug Demuro? I thought he sold it to Tavarish years ago.
@@mightbegenius Nah this one spent a lot of time in Colombia, rumored to be a druglord or cartel member's car
When Tyler fixes it all up Ed will buy it back for a song and dance lol.
After all these years you finally figured out that Top Gear was 90% made-up drama for TV.
Crazy to think that I’ve never owned a Maserati Ghibli, but every time I see one I think about a tube of toothpaste fitting in the panel gaps 😂 Doug seems to have the same effect
Same! That’s the only thing I can think about whenever I see one. The DeMuro effect if you will.
Same here 😂
His video is why I would never buy a ghibli.
So True! Any Maserati and I immediately think “Colgate”
That Shelby in the background peaks my interest.
Damn Hoov, don’t you mean the “annals” of history? 😂
Had me crying as well...
You're talking to the man who says "Urination Bob" at every turn.
@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 You are correct sir.
Aston Martin is supposed to be a gentleman's brand (an alternative to Jaguar perhaps). How are you supposed to act gentlemanly when your head is bobbing up and down like a yabo. Even when you drive normally and gentlemanly it's making you do that. I think that's where Jeremy Clarkson was coming from. (I would have to watch the episode again to be sure.)
Clarkson on jaguars....tax evasion and slightly fraudulent people who get away with everything...
@@01Bouwhuis How did Hoovie get his wealth anyways? I've been watching him from the very beginning (I think he was three videos in) and everything I have observed from him suggest that he comes from great wealth. Don't get me started. . . . His uncle bought a Mercedes on the spot and out of spite for some guy in the bar, then went back to to brag. (This is a real story Hoovie told although I'm strongly paraphrasing ) Perhaps I'm being overly suspicious and need help. I just have a cynical nature to my curiosity and every time I've tried to stop I've gotten taken advantage of.
"... and the car went into the anals of history..." 😂😂😂 Yes. Yes it did. But also the annuls 😂
Annals
Annals of history, not anals, and definately not annuls ( annul- to cancel, or set aside a legally binding agreement)
E Plurbis Anus. Hoovie is a community fan.
Jokes are hard, aren’t they? 🤦♂️
The Norm Crosby of Wichita
The tones, the cadence, the inflections. If I close my eyes I could swear I am listening to Carl Sagan. Billions and Billions.....
Congratulations on owning all of the Brosnan Bond Cars at some point (in some form)!
This car rocks on Everything or Nothing game
He does own a 7 Series doesn't he? If he does, he forgort about that one too.
@@anubus6 didn't he sell it when he had that massive sale?
You should try to recreate the “the backing up a boat ramp” scene that Jeremy did (and is still emblazoned in my memory), and see if it is as bad as he says it was.
I seem to remember Clarkson's big issue was with 'low speed' maneuverability. Such as navigating parking lots, driving on inclines, etc.
I don't think he really had any problem with it on a track, or just driving on a highway...
If you’ve ever driven an early paddle shift car, you know exactly what he was referring to. The early cars couldn’t manage low speed at all when auto was turned on, and it’s even harder to do it with auto off.
Very much this! He never really complained _that much_ about these issues on Ferraris of the time, but he saw the Aston as a Grand Tourer/daily driver, and low speed driveability matters there.
on the streets yes. On the track it was the downshifts mostly. A manual you can just ram into 2nd gear and floor it, with the paddles you have to walk it all the way down.
The way it uses the clutch is also clunky. You can't really adjust the aggressiveness of the clutch action on the fly (unlike a manual transmission).
Also if you compare it with same sequential transmissions in racecars (WRC, GT1, GT3....), it's slower to shift. Ferrari managed to do it better (still clunky in automatic mode though).
17:17 - Ah, that gorgeous XJR is still there! What a beautiful big cat.
The VW didn't move over because YOU have to merge safely by yielding.
Glad someone said it. Right of way goes to vehicles already on the carriage way, not vehicles joining. The amount of people that seem to think it's the other way around is insane.
Different regions have different rules. In finland i'd be up for a citation if i yielded while on the motorway.
Agreed..all he had to do was look into the side mirror
Sigh.... another person playing with their phone instead of driving, TYLER!!
@@MikaelLevoniemi he is in the US. Traffic on interstates has priority over traffic entering the interstate.
That Shelby in the background is a good reminder how much cars have grown in size in the past years.
When the dumbest automotive RUclipsr tells you something isn't that bad, run. Run for the hills
The car sounds amazing, as long as it puts a smile on your face ,it's well worth it
This was and is a dream car. If only it had the proper silver wheels, or some nice silver multispokes. Anything but this black B>S!
I agree, the black wheels look too gangsta/drug dealer to me.
Put some elegant BBS wheels on it...silver pls and it will look ALOT better.
I will forever like the look of the Vanquish and that Gray with black rims is no exception
I think what made it such a bad experience for Clarkson was the fact that it was a flappy paddle at all
I want to let you know that someone called Julia Red stole your comment and got more likes.
Great review. I have a 2002 Vanquish and entirely agree. I had a manual conversion ordered and changed my mind. The flappy paddle madness has grown on me. Great car, even better value.
What color??
Personally I would not care about the slow gear changes. I'm not going to be drag racing Dodge Hellcats at traffic signals. It's a beautiful car and I would love to have one.
Well said. We want a good looking car that is decent fun to drive whilst we go about our biz. I want a car that makes doing "essential yet boring life-stuff" more fun than it should be :^)
gear changes are about the same if you had a stick
Honestly, I think that's been Aston's modus operandi all along. They create good looking cars that are fun to drive.
It fits the character of the v12 more. the way it cuts out and re-engages sound so beautiful. cars of this type are meant to be enjoyed more than to be raced.
@J.P Slaym0 Penny > Gisele>Kaley
Why can you not TURN UP the VOLUME in your videos. Would be nice to be able to listen on laptop speakers too
I love Aston Martin, it’s my favourite car brand. However, £200k+, the gearbox must must be better than what it was. 🇬🇧
Was better than any Ferrari box at the time
This was the very first V12 engine I ever laid eyes on for real in the flesh. I was so excited to see it! It felt so exotic like I had to ask permission simply to look at it.
I also remember driving this car in a few Bond video games! These were so effing cool!
I like the idea of flappy paddles, but I do think you're a bit blind to it (with previous examples). For instance here, he wasn't really saying much about how slow it was, instead he was mostly talking about how much the car would lurch when changing. A manual will lurch too, but as the driver you wouldn't notice it as much because you're the one in control
I never thought it was terrible. But I would love to see a conversion at Aston Martin Works!
when merging on to a freeway it is the responsibility of the one doing the merging to adjust their speed accordingly. and is definitely NOT the responsibility of those already on the freeway to either accelerate, decelerate or change lanes to avoid an accident.
Very true, but I consider it a dick move if the passing lane is empty and you don't move over. Legally you are correct, it's just rude. Edit: I consider
@@dwarf365 also rude to come storming onto the empty highway not paying attention and expecting them to move over for you. Then what typically happens is the fool in the merging vehicle sits right next to that person preventing them from moving back into the travel lane. Pay attention while you are driving, learn how to merge.
100% on point
@@Wikcentral one hundred percent. I'm not trying to remove blame, Hoovie wasn't paying attention at all. I find it rude because if I can move over (semi, truck or car) I do and I find it inconsiderate if others don't.
@Jim jibroni Western Oa on ramps are WAAAAAAAYYYYY too short.Not sure how mergers survive.
The front end of the mustang looks so sick!
Velcro for interior access is an excellent idea! I have worked on an airplane that all the cockpit interior was held in place with Velcro. So much easier to work on than the other ones screwed together.
And way better than the usual plastic pop fasteners that break if you even so much as look at them wrongly...
Way better than screws into plastic or plastic tabs. If Velcro wears out or becomes unbounded from the part it's an easy fix over buying new panels.
Also won't rattle, and squeak when you're going down the road
@@andypullin4702 in plumbing it’s the same way with old fine thread brass pipe and fittings,you have to look at quick before it notices you look at it and it decides to break
👀 the Jag over on the side at Wizards
The issue with Clarkson, is that he would exaggerate issues with cars to poke fun at them, so it's hard to always believe what he said about cars. I mean, the guy had his team mod his Reliant Robin so it would always end up on its side, just to show how unstable it was. So yeah.
Like this car, like the black wheels, but those AM from that era all look the same to me.
Same with the Ford GT. He made it sound like its such an unreliable mess when all his issues were pretty much solely the bad aftermarket alarm system he put on it. Still mad him for ruining that cars reputation lol.
@@WillieWonka928D didn’t hurt there price 😂
@@WillieWonka928D Doug demuro also had issues with his Ford gt
we should be talking about Clarkson's flappy belly, he always was amused about 'overweight American's' now he is just like them now
The real problem, is that Americans can’t grasp British satire in any form (it’s an intellectual thing!)
new drinking game, take a shot every time Hoovie pronounces Jaguar wrong.
It is possible, that to his understanding during his review, he expected more from that model and the brand; His reviews were harsh, but remember who the customer base for those vehicles were at that time and the competition Aston Martin was facing, his review probably had some merit. In addition, automated manuals were new to alot of drivers, it is a lot like when Nissan began to introduced or what i called "forced fed" the CVT transmission to their product lineup back in 2003...The reviews by the media were brutal to say the least.
Regarding the CVT, True that. Once people learned that they are a different kind of transmission all together, and learned how to use/how to drive them, (what to do and what NOT to do with them) (AND HOW TO MAINTAIN THEM) honestly it really is a useful interesting & functional bit of technology!
I know a guy who bought a Vanquish. He was so happy to finally own his dream car. A year later he traded it for a Ferrari 458. I haven't had a chance to ask him why he got rid of his dream car so quickly. Or why he didn't buy a Huracan instead.
Love your series Tyler. I just wanted to let you know how entertaining it is and how much I really look forward to watching. Keep up the goofiness and humor. What ever happened to the SSR?
It's an automated manual. The gears are controlled by solenoids. This is awesome. The E46 M3 SMG did the same thing and thats not a slow shifter by any means
You're right about the island of Clarksons. Another good one was his comment about Mk2 Focus STs tOrQuE sTeeR and thats all anybody ever said about the car. It wasn't even that bad either, yes it does steer by itself if you let go of the wheel and floor it, but you can counter that by HOLDING THE FUCKIN WHEEL
Plus that's true of ALL front wheel drive cars with enough power to spin the tires. The only way to eliminate it is to have captain slow levels of power. Yes there are some steering geometry designs that can increase or decrease it but not eliminate it entirely. Or I guess you could go to steer by wire to eliminate it.
these babies today need Tesla autopilot... holding on to the wheel? what about their social media?
Lmao.
Clarkson’s problem with the gearbox was driving it in town mostly and that it was slow to shift on the track, it only worked ok for the highway. In a car at that price (from new) was a bad product.. he is still right, you getting it for 20-30% of its original prise then it’s okay, but it’s still a beautiful car and wish I could afford it..
To this day people still use the term 'flappy paddle' 🤣🤣🤣 Honestly, I don't think he hated the Vanquish, he simply hated the change from a gearstick to any flappy paddled gearbox. He has gotten used to them now. (as Hoovie added)
I cannot wait for the day Clarkson does a collaboration with Tyler.
A full squad Vs squad (TopGear/Cartrek) collab could break RUclips.
If the car is an automated manual you can just remove the actuators and have an engineer design a selector, and maybe some ECU flashing. That would be cheaper and then you can sell the kit. Kind of the same process that BMW e46 people do with their transmission. Only difference is that you can get those parts from a manual car
They sell kits for SMG-equipped BMWs, so why not?
Do it like a sequential. With a button for start up that simulates holding both paddles.
There are several kits to convert these to manual. They seem to cost between 20-30k USD. Still he would be less than 100k USD in to the car and thats not to bad for a fairly modern V12 manual sportscar, even if has a somewhat shady history.
Hoovie better see this
20 to 30k is a rip off, the other option is an adaptor plate and put a 6 speed ford transmission.
Jaguar key? That looks like my 1988 Ford Sierra key? That key had the nifty feature that you could lock every other Ford Sierra with it. Something I proved to my mother when I locked her Sierra - with my Sierra key. Only one thing. She had her keys in the car. Needless to say, I wasn´t her favorite kid that day...
Clarkson had too much sway in the late 1990's and early 2000's. That one man's opinion buried many good cars and perhaps even brands. He seemed to have a particular dislike for all British car company's, many times without any real reason. He was far better as an entertainer once Top Gear went that way, than he ever was as a serious and impartial car journalist.
Agree. Top Gear was on top of the world in the early 2000's and we didn't have RUclips or anyplace else to turn to for reviews.
He also considered the Aston Martin DB7 the coolest car in the world for a long time, and I doubt that hurt Aston Martin's reputation. Mostly he was kind to the brand - he always praised the styling and the interiors.
Clarkson actually said he would buy the Aston rather than the superior Ferrari.
At least he gave his honest opinion.
He loves Range Rovers….having owned one myself I can see why, just superb cars, just pricey to run.
It's not surprising he had a dislike for British car companies. The BL strikes, outdated, rust-prone unreliable cars which were 20 years behind other manufacturers.
“Underserved reputation” 😂😂😂. Somebody get that reputation a beer, it’s thirsty!
I mean it seems like a pretty slow transmission 🤣 But yes, Clarkson was an entertained not a serious car reviewer. His opinions are best taken with a pinch of salt.
Clarkson has always been a serious car reviewer…
Why does Hoovie get himself into these situations. 😂😂
The reason why Clarkson is having a go on it, is when the car was new and you buy at that high price point. You dont expect it to be that slow at gear shifting. As a car review, have a drive in a new car. Of course you have to say whats wrong. Because the gear shift on that car is really slow.
Exactly. Clarksons Point was at this price point there was multiple vehicles that did the same thing better. At the same if not better price.
I think Tyler is just saying it's not so bad so the prices will rise on these and he can make a profit later. He's not a stupid guy. We tend to underestimate Hoovie. Most of this video seemed to be him trying to increase the value of this car.
@@tecnofreak666 he even compared it to the DB9 that had a ZF6 automatic which was much better to use, despite it having less power and less focused on track driving.
@@nimaside yup, he’s no dummy
I fell in love with this car in Die Another Day and it was my favorite for a loooong time!
*That’s so ridiculous that they won’t sell you the parts.
That Volkswagen didn't get over because IT WAS YOUR JOB TO MERGE. Not through traffic. It was his lane, not yours. Learn how to drive, maybe?
Bro we can see your comment history, all you do is hate on every single video and constantly go on about how you’re gonna unsubscribe but you never actually do. So please kindly shut up for once.
"I do covet your Vanquish good sir" lmao
Clarksons hatred of flappy paddles especially in the Aston is that they are jerky and unrefined in traffic and from pulling away in stop start traffic when compared to a ZF auto
ZF8 is EXCELLENCE!
U need a better microphone the sound is way to low on phones
The Volkswagen doesn’t have to get over. You are merging into their lane. Thus, you need to either speed up to get in front of them or slow down to get behind them. Geez!
In the glimpse I saw…it looked like an Eclipse GST or GSX, a rare sight either way…
Hoovie give's me Daniel Tosh vibes from Tosh.O
So much less of a douche (Hoovie, that is)
I’ve driven quite a few miles in a Vanquish S and I love the flappy paddle gearbox, they improved the box a little in the S but I don’t have any problems with it, it’s better when the car’s warm, then it’s fantastic
Jeremy Clarkson absolutely hates all "Flappy Paddle Gear Boxes" with a passion. He hated the gearbox on this Aston Martin because he basically thought adding the gearbox type to this iconic British car brand was "Sacrilege". I think it was a generational thing, the flappy paddle gear box in road legal sports cars was "relatively new" back then and we have had 20+ years to get used to them.
Not really a generational thing. All the early iterations of the flappy paddle gearbox (Lambo E gear, Ferrari F1, BMW SMG and whatever nonesence this Aston uses) were garbage. They only got good around the late 2000s and became truly exceptional with the introduction of the double clutch technology in the 2010s.
Plenty of Ferraris he's liked with flappy paddle shifters. A lot of the problem of cars of this era is the big jerk as the gearbox dips the clutch and shunts it back in again in the next gear. BMW M6 was like this as well, even shunts when driven gently. More aggressive than a conventional auto, but not as smooth to drive
They still crap, im only 30, driven all types in my job, all are trash compared to manual. I don't want to set lap times I want to have fun.
He did like DSG IIRC. But doppelkuplungsgetriebe (they did a joke on the name too) wasn't yet even in production when this Aston came about.
@@MikaelLevoniemi DSG is alright for a daily but I still find it boring, given the choice of a TDI or GTI with DSG I would rather drive the TDI, GTI and R would be manual for sure as I like fun cars, and faster does not always mean fun.
My take is, if you don't use the car for racing, it shifts FINE. Too many "Car Guys" want a twitchy-instant shift. Only place that COULD be useful is on the track. But not sure I would want that the other 98% of the time, driving it normally. Manual conversion?? NO. You could buy another car for that kind of money!!
*I wonder how many things wrong we are going to find with this gem* 🔥
The worst flappy paddles were on the Citroen C3 and the Smart Car. You can get out and get back in again between shifts
People that expect others to "get out of THEIR way" when entering the highway are entitled and possibly ignorant (Hoovie excluded, of course 🙄). Remember kids, always yield to traffic when merging!
If there is no one in the other lane it is just right to do it. I move out of the way for people when I can I don’t just expect others to if I wouldn’t.
@Eskidoo 👍
@Jim jibroni maybe the government should start doing public service announcements again...do they still, i don't have regular tv anymore. It seems that people don't know the rules anymore.
Never understood the power of clarksons opinion. Just another example of yelling louder means you’re right. Enjoy the car. It’s a beauty.
Fun fact, the Vanquish was in every scene of the James bond movie. Even the opening credits. It was just in invisible mode.
In true Top Gear homage fashion: I think I might be able to shift my manual Ford Transit van that fast. I'm not sure, but I feel like I want to try 😄
If hoovie said he paid $100k for this I wouldn’t have batted an eyelid! These things look way more expensive than they are.
How much did he pay?
@@jeedwards1981 hopefully not more than $50k
You're wrong...
The World is not Enough is the greatest Bond movie.
Also, I have driven Kneeland Youngblood's v12 DB9 on several occasions (on the highway as an airport valet) The takeaways aren't how bad the transmission is, it is the odd placement of the key in the dash and the backwards tachometer.
Yes, it is very slow shifting for a dual-clutch, but that doesn't mean the car is worthless.
It's not a dual clutch,it's a single clutch automated manual gearbox.
@@turbnix Well then there you go... Lambo's automated manuals aren't particularly quick shifting either.
It seems that Velcro is under appreciated just like your Aston Martin. Velcro is a shortening of Velours Crochet meaning Velvet Hook! It's invention was actually inspired from burs from plant seeds that stick to clothes or animal fur. The company was founded in the 1950s and currently employs about 2500 people across 7 manufacturing facilities globally! Originally envisioned as a fastener for clothing, today, Velcro is used across a wide array of industries and applications; including healthcare, the military, land vehicles, aircraft, and even spacecraft!
It does seem to have a noticeable wait. Due to a real clutch. Jeremy was expecting it to feel like a auto with paddles and power through the shift
Ed Bolian is Tylers friend. Nobody said he was a GOOD friend..lol
Honestly, I reckon in 2058 we'll be admiring the Vanquish as a timeless beautiful classic in the exact same way the DB5 is viewed today. The hips, the eyeliner around the headlights, the quality of materials in the interior, and the way the Tungsten Silver paint shines in the light... just a truly beautiful car.
Looks like all the panels have been spray painted by a different person. This car needs a complete respray.
I’ve got a question I always wanted to ask: What’s with the shoes, Hoovie? I always thought you Americans are the definition of cool exporting style all across the world. At least in Germany (where I’m from) the kids still look very „americanized“ and do so since I was a youth 25 years ago. But nobody would wear THESE shoes 🤪 And people are making fun about „ze Germans“ for wearing tube socks in sandals… Still… keep doing your stuff! I enjoy it very much! Thanks!
Not all Americans are cool and have style, hoovie is living proof
"Nobody in America is cool" - Me, an American
If you cannot reach your 6 car storage lift because all the supercars blocking your way.... you have a hoarding problem
As a long time valet, I’ve gotten to drive plenty of Aston’s, and I absolutely love these cars. As far as affordable Aston’s go, the older vantage, vanquish, Rapide, and DB9 are incredibly fantastic cars, especially for the price range you can find them at. I’d love to get my hands on one 😩
Every time I hear someone talk about a Lamborghini Murcielago, Ed’s voice saying “murse-see-el-ago” pops into my head
Well you sir are wrong because I own the most famously hated car of Top Gear and that is the Lexus SC430 and while it’s not the fastest car I love it Toyota bones and reliability it’s a great car that I’ve daily driven for years so I believe that beats you.
Anyone else just love Tyler pulling into Wizard's shop... 'Weeeeezard' 😂 👍🏻
Has the passenger door been repaired/repainted? In your garage, the door looks like a different color.
I've got a 2017 GTI with a dual clutch. If I ask it to reverse up a steep hill it shits a brick. Super jerky, the time between the brake being released and the clutch engaging isn't consistent, etc. If you're in a tight spot it's really unnerving. Even sketchier if you're ok gravel or another loose surface.
Id rather be in a manual in that situation, I'm not an amazing stick driver but I can slip a clutch properly in reverse
The VW dual clutch is one of the best on the market… you clearly can’t drive for shit.
@@stuartstogdill2406 yes it is and you've clearly never been in a dual clutch reversing from a stop on a steep hill. Car just freaks out. Dual clutches don't like slipping the clutch so if you're not ready to actually give it some gas it grabs and releases. If you're on gravel attempting to reverse up the hill and you've gotta give it gas you're going to spin. In literally every other scenario the transmission is absolutely fantastic
Customer of mine had a new Aston Martin. Bits of trim would just fall off it on his drive. The drivers window would come down by itself overnight.
He had new brake pads put on front (pads, not discs) £1500
Love these cars, my one problem is it has many hand me downs from Jaguar. Outer door handles and mirrors are from the XK8, interior climate controls are from an XJ8 and the seat warmers/hazzard buttons are from the XK8 and many many more.
Aston were always users of hand-me-downs; parts-bin specials. Maybe not so much in the 1950s, or perhaps even the 60s, but when the oil crises hit and Aston went into their 70s dry spell, they were using all sorts of components from major suppliers. From their point of view it made a lot of sense - the bought-in components were properly engineered and manufactured, cheap because of volume, and most likely with a budget that exceeded Aston's budget for the engine.
jaguar parts from the time period are extremely good quality aside from some buttons, love my xk8 door handles
I actually like the way it shifts. It shifts like we shift manual cars 95% of the time. Definitely not a drag racer, but such a good grand touring car and that’s exactly what it is.
Only too bad the wheels are black.. can’t wait that stupid trent is over..!
If I heard the car going down the street and didn't know better, I'd say it sounded like a manual car shifting. It's a little slow for a DCT, but not terrible for drivers who aren't that concerned about it.
hoovies garage car collection looking like a SA-MP(san andreas multyplayer). car collection
I think Hoovie meant to say was 'this car went into the annuals of history' what he said was @13:05, which if true, respect and should increase the value from now on, now the truth is out....
When traveling up an on-ramp you yield to the highway Tyler. Traffic does not get over for you to get on. Either you hit the gas to get up to speed or you wait…
Thank God, Hoovie rescued a car from the Tavarish Graveyard