Bee Movie: The End of Trash | Big Joel

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  • Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
  • I talk about bee movie!! We have fun talking about bee movie! The final video in the trash era of dreamworks trilogy.
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  • @MsDefectiveToaster
    @MsDefectiveToaster 4 года назад +2168

    I wanna point out that plenty of bees in this movie wear normal shirts except Barry, who wears a sweater with his own stripes printed on it. This implies that Barry is wearing the equivalent of those t shirts with a buff torso or a bikini body on it.

    • @royalblanket
      @royalblanket 3 года назад +228

      And his entire closet is filled with those types of shirts

    • @sidhackney8831
      @sidhackney8831 2 года назад +221

      @@royalblanket What a blinding red flag someone who ONLY owns buff body T shirts would be

    • @NTMonsty
      @NTMonsty 2 года назад +65

      No, I see it more as wearing a Peach-colored shirt. Sure, it's mildly confusable for flesh tones (Well, for white-skinned humans, anyways), but it's not really the same.

    • @myboy_
      @myboy_ 2 года назад +12

      Literally all of the bees wear stripes besides the drill sargeant

    • @RethinkRetro1
      @RethinkRetro1 2 года назад +3

      You are a true scholar my friend

  • @peterdumpel5729
    @peterdumpel5729 5 лет назад +5284

    'Really, this musclebaby is not powerful - atl all. Rather, he's clinging to a sense of power that has already escaped him. This bee ... is cucking him.'
    Those might be the greatest three sentences uttered by mankind.

    • @qarsiseer
      @qarsiseer 5 лет назад +85

      12:11

    • @KEKrato
      @KEKrato 5 лет назад +206

      "He's getting with his girlfriend and inserting himself into"
      me: oh no
      "...his life"
      me: oh ok

    • @Jamushu
      @Jamushu 3 года назад +31

      Bee Movie will always be an ICONIC Fever Dream because of these three lines.
      *_CUCKED BY A BEE. IT'S HIP TO FUCK BEES._*

    • @victoryjamz
      @victoryjamz 2 года назад +3

      ❗350 original sentences remain.

    • @imaeintellec209
      @imaeintellec209 2 года назад

      @@qarsiseer It's actually 12:11

  • @Himewna
    @Himewna 5 лет назад +5034

    that awkward moment when you try to make a movie about bees and accidentally make a marxist text about worker exploitation......featuring bees

    • @bluishwolf
      @bluishwolf 5 лет назад +224

      Bee movie wasn't supposed to be a movie about bees, it was supposed to be a movie about B movie plots.

    • @verlassent5684
      @verlassent5684 5 лет назад +53

      I bee what you did there

    • @userfriendly2737
      @userfriendly2737 5 лет назад +22

      bluishwolf how beetiful.

    • @PS-dm1dq
      @PS-dm1dq 5 лет назад +103

      Um, yeah. "Accidentally." Sure. He "accidentally" marxed it up 😂

    • @Lycaon1765
      @Lycaon1765 5 лет назад +13

      **veganism

  • @jimmyseaver3647
    @jimmyseaver3647 5 лет назад +3915

    Bee Movie, but every time someone says “bee”, Big Joel explains how the movie explores stuff.

    • @Felixiroflife28
      @Felixiroflife28 5 лет назад +46

      Jimmy Seaver Have you seen the Ideas Channel video? It’s like 12 hours long and it’s literally that 😂

    • @karpsplash6458
      @karpsplash6458 5 лет назад +91

      The Bee Movie is 95 minutes long and the word bee is said 173 times, if we multiply 173 with Big Joel's video length of 25.10 and the films running time of 95 minutes we get 4,437.30 minutes in run time and dividing 4,437.30 by 60 (an hour) we get a total run time in hours of 73.95!

    • @b.parker1740
      @b.parker1740 5 лет назад +30

      Dreamworks, but the further down the trash trilogy Joel gets, the more he becomes like Jordan Peterson.

    • @akirakirawabushi7019
      @akirakirawabushi7019 5 лет назад +8

      @@b.parker1740 well good luck with that! *cry on webcam*

    • @hippocrates1297
      @hippocrates1297 5 лет назад +38

      Bruce Parker Jordan Bee Peterson?

  • @zeetweet
    @zeetweet 5 лет назад +1904

    "the most iconic scene in the movie"
    completely overlooking "YA LIKE JAZZ", i'm disappointed

    • @PhoenixRoseYT
      @PhoenixRoseYT 5 лет назад +13

      Jemmy Weens I KNOWWWW

    • @tobeyorconsequences9544
      @tobeyorconsequences9544 5 лет назад +39

      I saw a bumper sticker that had Barry with the words, "You like Jazz?"

    • @spookyho5994
      @spookyho5994 5 лет назад +2

      Yessss

    • @FraserSouris
      @FraserSouris 4 года назад +8

      That's not really a great scene. It's a meme sure but aside from that it has no value. That's like saying the most iconic scene in The Dark Knight is "tangerines"

    • @cayleece7890
      @cayleece7890 3 года назад

      LOL yes, and the intro too! 😆

  • @Ivytheherbert
    @Ivytheherbert 4 года назад +973

    Adam is the kind of guy that complains about unions while having a comfortable office job with good hours and a friendly boss.

    • @Lambda_Ovine
      @Lambda_Ovine Год назад +128

      Oh, the kind of asshole that while driving on the highway sees a group of workers standing on the side looking like 'they are not doing anything' (while in reality they have very specific roles and they are just waiting for each other in order to not get in their own way) and thinks "lazy union workers..."

    • @Kevin-cc3up
      @Kevin-cc3up Год назад +31

      @@Lambda_Ovine lmao why is this so common

    • @joywolfe.
      @joywolfe. Год назад

      spot on appraisal, fuck that stupid bee

    • @mastersquinch
      @mastersquinch Год назад

      A whiny middle class white guy who’s more invested in his illusory freedom to have a moderately comfortable place and some commodities in a rigid hierarchy than actual, tangible liberation of literal slaves from horrific conditions even though he could have all of the things he has now if the slaves were liberated and the system changed?
      Never seen that before.

    • @Lucasp110
      @Lucasp110 Год назад +16

      Dont really agree with that
      Adam essentially says not that their exploitation is right, but that honey, as the product of their labor, is the raison d'être of the bee. Their labor is dignified. Doesnt matter who gets it, making honey is both means and end

  • @ericdorland3707
    @ericdorland3707 5 лет назад +1285

    So proud of Comrade Big Joel for finally providing a materialist analysis of the conditions facing the Beelatariat

    • @gil5885
      @gil5885 5 лет назад +78

      The Breadman way to fight the bourgeoisbee

    • @bendym7001
      @bendym7001 5 лет назад +57

      The Conquest of Honey

    • @vornamenachname2727
      @vornamenachname2727 5 лет назад +11

      @@gil5885 Does that mean Joel will have to pour honey over his face as the ritual demands.
      Cause I would be very fine with that.

    • @malihaariba7396
      @malihaariba7396 5 лет назад +18

      long live the beelatariat beevolution

    • @Viscidsquare040
      @Viscidsquare040 3 года назад +5

      “Beelatariat” does this mean humans are just called “pro”?

  • @alexramey2062
    @alexramey2062 5 лет назад +460

    "Artificial hierarchies"
    *Jordan "Lobsterman" Petereon wants to know your location*

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад +53

      Consider the Queen Bee. No wait, ignore that.

    • @Aviationlover-belugaxl
      @Aviationlover-belugaxl 5 лет назад +21

      - vaska. Jordan BEEterson

    • @namelesscompadre4095
      @namelesscompadre4095 5 лет назад +11

      Tricia Melia Beedan Bee Beeterbee

    • @goatdeer8403
      @goatdeer8403 3 года назад +2

      Jordan Beeterson is a quack who mixes science with pseudoscience in order to make the pseudoscience look more legitimate. He purposefully exploits outrage for the sake of profit and the big Joel bee movie deserves better

  • @WeatheredPeach
    @WeatheredPeach 5 лет назад +1834

    I think you miss a thing about Adam the bee talked about around 19:30. Adam is middle class. Within capitalist societies you get people who are working class in the sense that they are exploited in the capitalist mode of production, but are provided enough material wealth to see themselves as benefiting from the system. Think of well paid workers like doctors and engineers. The middle classes have a tendency to support the capitalist system despite the fact that they are exploited by it, which Adam seems to be doing. It's not a position that makes "no sense from any perspective", it's about the most common political position held by people in the US, after all. But the way middle class politics is complicit in and (perceives itself to) benefit from class oppression *is* antithetical to the revolutionary goals of the protagonist, as to any revolutionary politics in real life, and the point of Adam is to show this opposition.

    • @mikaismay
      @mikaismay 5 лет назад +123

      I came into the comments looking for this exact reply. I was expecting him to go into this, but it was a missed analysis.

    • @shaddonon
      @shaddonon 5 лет назад +84

      Well said! The role of the middle class is a (ahem) rich enough subject that it could easily warrant dedicated examination. For that matter, these Dreamworks vids could act as a great primer for a larger series, where +BigJoel explores other, more "nuanced" power structures like education, law enforcement, religion etc. Ideally (as with all things) through the lens of Sinistar, but trash movies works too.

    • @montecristo1845
      @montecristo1845 5 лет назад +144

      Yes! I believe it was George Carlin who said: the rich do none of the work, pay none of the taxes; the middle class do all of the work, pay all of the taxes; and the poor are there to scare the shit out of the middle class.

    • @fabianavalentino6304
      @fabianavalentino6304 5 лет назад +28

      I really like Joel, but I think this is a common trend in their videos. They are almost perfect but they always miss something that, funnily, matches his view entirely. I think this could be because either a) he doesn't want to give a reading that isn't self sustained (unlikely, given he js, after all, an essayist), or b) he needs someone to give a second read to his scripts.
      Or maybe he should give it a rest to their scripts and edit it, but that's implying he doesn't do it already, and I don't want to assume that.

    • @fabianavalentino6304
      @fabianavalentino6304 5 лет назад +12

      With miss I don't mean he doesn't mention it (I would never peg an essayist wrong for just not mentioning something I want) I mean it exactly like in this video, he mentions something and says it doesn't make sense, even when it really does if you just change the focus a bit.

  • @elizabethdevido2081
    @elizabethdevido2081 5 лет назад +263

    Joel, it warms my cold heart when you give smart, eloquent commentary sprinkled with phrases like “bee chads” and “muscle baby” said with complete earnest sincerity.

  • @BigJoel
    @BigJoel  5 лет назад +658

    sorry about the weird camera focus problems and the kinda bad audio. I’m upgrading a lil haha

    • @tape-6
      @tape-6 5 лет назад +12

      It’s chill

    • @Kage-jk4pj
      @Kage-jk4pj 5 лет назад +27

      No one gonna talk about how he made this comment 11 hrs ago

    • @DyLeN17
      @DyLeN17 5 лет назад

      It looks good, you should stop the crack consumption though

    • @aboxintheblack9530
      @aboxintheblack9530 5 лет назад +5

      Big Joel THIS MOVIE IS OBJECTIVELY GOOD JOEL.

    • @chaosvii
      @chaosvii 5 лет назад

      Josh Adams are you a time cop?

  • @suzysquidink
    @suzysquidink 5 лет назад +674

    Big Joel Drinking Game:
    Drink every time your heart is warmed by a newfound appreciation of something you were previously apathetic towards.

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 5 лет назад +29

      You would die like 10 times

    • @sardonicsardonyx359
      @sardonicsardonyx359 5 лет назад +9

      @SomethingScanning I want to make fanart of his adorable face

    • @somenothing7914
      @somenothing7914 5 лет назад +1

      for realz partna

    • @aspektx
      @aspektx 3 года назад +3

      I wish I were half as insightful as Big Joel.

  • @autodidacticartisan
    @autodidacticartisan 5 лет назад +1148

    If "man spends 25 minutes discussing the socio-philosophical importance of the Bee movie" doesn't become a meme I'm going to be really surprised

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад +65

      Internet: Meme about 12 year old movie
      Joel: Consciousness shifting video essay you say

    • @oliverluke2363
      @oliverluke2363 5 лет назад +30

      Hey I'm from the future (2020), and not only will it not become a meme but it's the beginning of February and the world has almost ended like 3 times.

    • @E4439Qv5
      @E4439Qv5 4 года назад +14

      @@oliverluke2363 Beginning of March now, and the world is still apparently in danger.
      Wash your hands more, and stop touching your face.

    • @imani7979
      @imani7979 4 года назад +17

      @@E4439Qv5 Beginning of May and people are protesting the quarantine and the president of the United States is telling people to inject themselves with cleaning products.
      So the world is still cucked.

    • @quackman
      @quackman 4 года назад +12

      @@imani7979 End of May and........ wow.

  • @42thecakeisalie
    @42thecakeisalie 5 лет назад +897

    25 minutes of deep and complex analysis of a movie I only saw once in my childhood and didn't even appreciate at the time but keep comin and comin into my life trough collective consciousness. What a great time to bee alive.

    • @simone6893
      @simone6893 5 лет назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/AXh_IkK4JCQ/видео.html

  • @myerklamb8529
    @myerklamb8529 5 лет назад +1100

    "Rough trilogy" was my Moms codename for me and my two sisters

    • @josadison
      @josadison 5 лет назад +65

      This is layered

    • @Nickman826
      @Nickman826 5 лет назад +32

      Turn it around and become a badass super team

    • @bereftspud279
      @bereftspud279 5 лет назад +14

      What are you doing stepbro

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 5 лет назад +1

      Same. Only all three of us are sisters. Ha, ha. Got you there, OP. I think.....

    • @NimhLabs
      @NimhLabs 5 лет назад +8

      ...I nearly misread that as "'Rough trilogy' was your Mom's codename last night"...

  • @rileyjones9413
    @rileyjones9413 5 лет назад +1033

    In this series Big Joel:
    1) Makes insightful content about interesting things that don't get talked about as much as they deserve
    2) Is a big sweetie
    3) Serves as eyecandy to draw the viewer in
    4) Reminds us all of how bizarre and awesome DreamWorks was
    5) Affirms my political beliefs in an oblique way
    6) is very cute

    • @harrisonfackrell
      @harrisonfackrell 5 лет назад +83

      Do you mean to say that he's an objectively hot troubadour?

    • @tirone7520
      @tirone7520 5 лет назад +9

      What? Those are all true

    • @babahu15
      @babahu15 5 лет назад +41

      i came to the channel when he didn't show his face yet so it's weird looking at him all the time now. i got used to it and it's nice now but the first time he did it was so disorienting. those eyes baby!

    • @worrywirt
      @worrywirt 5 лет назад +17

      babahu15 some eyes just want to be stared into 😍 (while excruciatingly analysing Bee Movie)

    • @randyohm3445
      @randyohm3445 5 лет назад +38

      @@babahu15 Can you imagine him talking to you about, like, regular stuff? "Hey, I'm gonna go and get some milk, and maybe also a carton of eggs, because I think we're out." Me: "WHY ARE YOU SO GODDAMN EARNEST AND INTENSE ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU SAY?!"

  • @felix.bengtsson
    @felix.bengtsson 5 лет назад +1851

    Who's this objectively hot troubadour and why is he shouting at me

    • @endlessness
      @endlessness 5 лет назад +77

      holy shit lmao you're 100% right

    • @poposterous236
      @poposterous236 5 лет назад +114

      Masculinity serves him well.

    • @terri8372
      @terri8372 5 лет назад +13

      @@poposterous236 you get an unironic like for that!

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 4 года назад +9

      He looks like a baby with a beard

    • @roguepsykerhaaker4813
      @roguepsykerhaaker4813 4 года назад +7

      @@nifralo2752 I think it's the way he talks and moves his head that makes him babylike

  • @deanna5280
    @deanna5280 5 лет назад +973

    "Lord Duloc" boi I know you didn't forget Farquaad's name omg

  • @colleen6440
    @colleen6440 5 лет назад +2915

    Is it too much to ask for an accurate anthropomorphization of bees where all of them are female except for the disposable breeding males?

    • @attentatdefecitdisorder4348
      @attentatdefecitdisorder4348 5 лет назад +631

      As a disposable male, I approve this message.

    • @heresieirisee
      @heresieirisee 5 лет назад +728

      I mean barry as a butch lesbian bee cucking the character that represents the capitalist patriarchy would only strengthen the film's message

    • @frootjuice91
      @frootjuice91 5 лет назад +434

      thank you! I get so angry every time I think about bee movie.... where are the outraged gamers crying about realism now??? lmao

    • @unknownname328
      @unknownname328 5 лет назад +488

      Implying that sex and gender are the same thing. Come on, clearly most of the bees we see on screen (including every main bee character) are female but the bees have an idea of gender that is almost, if not completely, divorced from sex

    • @CrappyBlue
      @CrappyBlue 5 лет назад +362

      @@unknownname328 i like the idea of this interpretation but it's still in service of a film with a majority male cast

  • @yabanc_8357
    @yabanc_8357 5 лет назад +429

    "this bee is cucking him"... a series of words i never expected to hear in this combination.
    I do like this movie, mostly because seeing what happens to a world without bees to 8 year old me was an experience. And now I guess with the added interpretation of the social hierarchy of cartoon bees. Thanks.

  • @sarahloyhihi
    @sarahloyhihi 5 лет назад +320

    When you were talking about Barry being a revolutionary, I got weirdly emotional.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад +53

      You can kill a bee. You can't kill an idea. HONEY WANTS TO BE FREE

  • @SpagEddie8113
    @SpagEddie8113 5 лет назад +533

    1950’s: We’ll probably have flying cars in the future!
    2000’s: Jerry Seinfeld is a bee dating a human and sueing every one who’s ever sold honey.

    • @waspoppin4784
      @waspoppin4784 4 года назад +7

      SpagEddie8113 even better!

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 4 года назад +1

      Also if you're a billionaire you can actually buy a flying car

    • @littlemoth4956
      @littlemoth4956 3 года назад +13

      Cringe ass irrelevant technology vs nuanced social commentary in an animated children’s film

  • @Froggy711
    @Froggy711 5 лет назад +333

    Bee Movie but every time someone supports the hierarchy, the movie speeds up by 1%

  • @squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719
    @squeakydeedsdonesoapclean3719 5 лет назад +115

    You should talk about my absolute favorite movie if all time: Robots.
    Only after I've aged like a fine wine have I noticed how it's a movie for the working class and I only appreciate it that much more.

  • @ChookaaFindlebean
    @ChookaaFindlebean 2 года назад +219

    Those beekeepers were so outwardly aggressive and hateful to the bees, and like, most beekeepers love bees. They definitely don't talk about knocking bees out and stealing their honey while maniacally laughing.

    • @IM2OFU
      @IM2OFU 2 года назад +52

      Backyard beekeepers maybe, big apricultural farms kill all their bees every year, y'know cause it's cheaper

    • @crptpyr
      @crptpyr Год назад

      ​@@IM2OFU wheres that information from? I'm genuinely interested, all I can find in terms of sources on honey farms harming their bees are peta and other similar organisations.

    • @GlitchBoy-ws5in
      @GlitchBoy-ws5in 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@IM2OFU😢

    • @pissapocalypse
      @pissapocalypse 5 дней назад

      ​@@IM2OFU What? How is that cheaper?

  • @mattildas7515
    @mattildas7515 5 лет назад +566

    So I wasn't gonna say this, and since I'm only 3:30 minutes in I dunno if you said it, but the fact you called the bees that go outside Chads pushed me over the edge. I'm pretty sure that in honey bee hives, the worker bees are all infertile female bees, which makes the fact that they are portrayed as big buffy guys hilarious to me. In fact, there's a running theme in animated movies about bees and ants that they will always focus on a male, regardless of whether that makes sense for the species and social role the character plays.

    • @MaxOakland
      @MaxOakland 5 лет назад +52

      I’ve always found that really irritating

    • @alexkiddo5855
      @alexkiddo5855 5 лет назад +135

      Really it's more like three sexes of bees. Queen, drone, worker. There's no reason to try to fit them into a sex binary when they really shouldn't be, I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with doing that even when it doesn't make the most sense

    • @mattildas7515
      @mattildas7515 5 лет назад +98

      @@alexkiddo5855 You make a good point, but I still contend that the bit in my comment about eusocial insect movies always focusing on a male character holds :P

    • @alexkiddo5855
      @alexkiddo5855 5 лет назад +38

      @@mattildas7515 oh yeah you're definitely right

    • @fymbra360
      @fymbra360 5 лет назад +9

      Chad bees

  • @ShinyBaboon
    @ShinyBaboon 5 лет назад +345

    Finally the day has come. I've been waiting for this moment my entire life

    • @abugoha4793
      @abugoha4793 5 лет назад +7

      I too can feel it in the air tonight

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 5 лет назад +5

      @@abugoha4793 and I feel lust for big joel's video essays in this chili's tonight

  • @joshkkg1519
    @joshkkg1519 5 лет назад +65

    "and lucky for us, Bee Movie is a kind of brilliant film."
    i know literally nothing else about your channel but that's an instant subscription from me.

  • @juliettest.laclaire8931
    @juliettest.laclaire8931 4 года назад +75

    im terrified why is Joel treating the bee movie like a movie and not the collective fever dream it is. he says "he's getting cucked by a bee" like its a normal thing for a kids movie someone please help

  • @Ringowasprettygood
    @Ringowasprettygood 5 лет назад +383

    This is the only Endgame I care about

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 5 лет назад +2

      NOT MY STEVE ROGERS
      * starts crying *

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 5 лет назад +4

      Bob the Cucumber kills Thanos

    • @magensens8898
      @magensens8898 5 лет назад +2

      I can't beelieve that Barry sacrificed himself.

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 5 лет назад

      Magensens
      No. Disliked.
      (🤣)

    • @oof-rr5nf
      @oof-rr5nf 5 лет назад

      @@LaLa-oj5ct seriously?

  • @hilmijaidin1156
    @hilmijaidin1156 5 лет назад +108

    Bee Movie but Big Joel analyses it unironically in front of an unironed tablecloth, and he still uses his phone to film even though he has 150K subscribers now

    • @attentatdefecitdisorder4348
      @attentatdefecitdisorder4348 5 лет назад +13

      Un *iron* ic
      Un *iron* ed
      Hidden message: next video is about The Iron Giant

    • @jeromealday614
      @jeromealday614 5 лет назад +7

      Hmmm... I did not notice the worn-out cloth behind him.

  • @Echoingsunflowers981
    @Echoingsunflowers981 5 лет назад +104

    The one thing that always confused me about this movie was the “nothing gets pollinated” scene is that honey bees are not the only pollenators that exist, such as: birds, butterflies, indigenous bees, etc. So that dead flower scene never made sense to me

    • @colin3ds1
      @colin3ds1 3 года назад +24

      In fact an argument can be made that bees make it worse
      Im pretty sure the species of bee that barry belongs to is an invasive species
      They had to wipe out the polinaters that were already there (and were better at actually polinating)

    • @derinedala5032
      @derinedala5032 3 года назад +13

      I was just amused by how the flowers at a flower show could apparently pollinate every vegetable species in the world. (Also if it was that easy, why didn't the humans do that before the lack of bee pollination became an issue? In this 'honeybees are the world's primary pollinators everywhere apparently' world, this problem was very foreseeable.)

  • @QuintonReviews
    @QuintonReviews 5 лет назад +558

    Good video, could have been longer tho.

    • @bliss2632
      @bliss2632 5 лет назад +62

      Quinton really be flexing after that 3 and a half hour, actual Bee Movie odyssey he released on his channel

    • @Loalrikowki
      @Loalrikowki 5 лет назад +24

      Just watch it at half speed.

    • @zerodollarbird
      @zerodollarbird 4 года назад +15

      What is this, a crossover episode?

    • @loayzag91
      @loayzag91 4 года назад +5

      I thought it was too long, so I sped it up each time he said the word "Bee"

  • @nichtschwert3307
    @nichtschwert3307 5 лет назад +210

    Okay I haven't seen this movie recently or anything but I feel the point where the bees start making honey "because they want to" doesn't really work that way in the movie. The bees throw off the oppression of slavery and just stop making honey altogterh which is a problem because nature starts dying immediately. WHat saves the day is not bees going back to making honey because they wanna, but because they realise they can sell it. They realise they have a monopoly and decide to exploit this fact by selling honey to humans and returning to honey production to keep up with demand.
    It's not quite the brave, subversive ending you make it out to be, in my opinion. The movie still ends up saying that the bees need to be forced to work through violence, just not the direct, physical violence of slavery but throgh the indirect, economic violence of capitalism.
    Buuuuuut that doesn't detract from the rest of the video which I liked a ton. Thanks, Joel.

    • @vornamenachname2727
      @vornamenachname2727 5 лет назад +35

      Still an anti slavery, socialist revolution about bees.
      It's still a lot more than I expected.

    • @emperorleroy6747
      @emperorleroy6747 5 лет назад +86

      I think it's up for interpretation. Even if the bees end up selling it, that is still a revolutionary idea. They now have the means of production and call the shots. That is possible better than simply sitting around on a honey surplus.

    • @sleep3417
      @sleep3417 3 года назад +3

      @@emperorleroy6747 Okay, but without their naturally produced honey to feed themselves. they have to switch to syrup or other artificial substances, with unknown health risks. This means that even though they obtain great wealth, it would only harm their future generations and splinter honey society into capitalists and traditionalists.

    • @sleep3417
      @sleep3417 3 года назад +12

      The industrial revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the beeman race.

    • @thevioletbee5879
      @thevioletbee5879 2 года назад +5

      @@sleep3417 Who says they can’t keep what they need?

  • @Chgcj
    @Chgcj 5 лет назад +58

    Long ago, the Bee colonies lived together in harmony. Then; everything changed when the Bee-Chads attacked.

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 5 лет назад +3

      You can never trust those damn Central-Africanized bees.

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 5 лет назад +616

    *ㄚ卂 ㄥ丨Ҝ乇 フ卂乙乙*

  • @Bellyoflion
    @Bellyoflion 5 лет назад +21

    You're ability to draw your analysis to conclusions that are life-affirming and inspiring, beyond simply theorizing for the sake of theorizing, is really astounding, Joel. Thank you for what you make!

  • @mothcub
    @mothcub 5 лет назад +70

    crunchy

  • @El_Omar2203
    @El_Omar2203 5 лет назад +136

    "The trash era of Dreamworks is over"
    He knows Boss Baby exist right?

    • @razkable
      @razkable 3 года назад +17

      its weird how shrek shrek 2 and 4 kung fu panda 1 and 2 madagascar 1 and 2 and megamind exist but inbetween that we got shark tale sinbad king of seas bee movie monster vs aliens and shrek the third .dreamworks was very up and down back then....

    • @ilmartellodestro3682
      @ilmartellodestro3682 3 года назад +2

      @@razkable And Dragon trainer. After Monsters vs Aliens, It was a f🅾️cking miracle

    • @river_brook
      @river_brook 2 года назад +1

      @@ilmartellodestro3682 is that what How to Train Your Dragon got translated into elsewhere

    • @ilmartellodestro3682
      @ilmartellodestro3682 2 года назад

      @@river_brook ruclips.net/video/Yb-WXVeSILw/видео.html

  • @pythonjava6228
    @pythonjava6228 5 лет назад +57

    I spent my whole life thinking the bee movie was just a random film from my childhood but really it was a movie that advocated anarchy, Marxism and vegan ethics?..............
    Mind blown

  • @Katfuzzmunchkin
    @Katfuzzmunchkin 5 лет назад +19

    im going to miss this video series! you always seem so genuine when you talk about these movies and i hope you continue to make videos about things you truly enjoy

  • @THEREDAKAY
    @THEREDAKAY 5 лет назад +206

    Please make a video about Robots

  • @allypoum
    @allypoum 5 лет назад +30

    You and Jack Saint among a few others are doing a brilliant job of creating a post-Gramscian analysis of popular culture for all us malcontents trying to make sense of this world. Thanks for that.

  • @vlogo4371
    @vlogo4371 5 лет назад +20

    The idea that barry's hive would stop production is wild anyway because they were an independent hive; no one skimmed off their honey, so the system got the full value of their labor, if not the individual owning his own work.

    • @sierra1513
      @sierra1513 2 года назад +3

      My understanding is that the massive surplus of honey that was created by the farms was evenly distributed among the bees

  • @maxamillonrat9867
    @maxamillonrat9867 5 лет назад +29

    Big Joel says everything, joke, explanation, serious point, everything, in the same voice. It’s fantastic. He just says the dumbest shit the same way as everything else. Very good, best boy

  • @blndrhed
    @blndrhed 5 лет назад +45

    Have you done "Iron Giant"? That's a good one. iI's my favorite animated movie. Not a critique of capitalism, more critique of propaganda, militarism and scare mongering.

    • @andrewdevine3920
      @andrewdevine3920 5 лет назад +10

      The Iron Giant is a great film, though. One of the best ever. These reviews are fun because Bee Movie and Shark Tale are complete garbage.

    • @namelesscompadre4095
      @namelesscompadre4095 5 лет назад

      Andrew Devine that cop out ending was bs though, good movie otherwise

    • @jwbartel6
      @jwbartel6 10 месяцев назад

      bee movie is good :)

  • @TSFboi
    @TSFboi 5 лет назад +34

    Dreamworks peaked with Megamind.
    Also, Bee Movie makes more sense through the lens of a Seinfeld film than a Dreamworks one. It feels more like a sitcom than an adventure and the focus is more on character dynamics and comedic situations than meta social commentary.

    • @thomaswest4033
      @thomaswest4033 5 лет назад +5

      Megamind is a metaphor for hegalian master and slave dialect

  • @jaquitavulpix3418
    @jaquitavulpix3418 5 лет назад +12

    I absolutely love it when some dude on youtube puts more effort in thinking about the themes of a movie than the people who actually produced the movie. It's just awesome and it shows that a piece of media doesn't need to be deep and complex to be worth engaging with. You can get some 'intellectual brain food' out of almost everything.
    I really, really want to see your take on the Emoji Movie. It is so soulless and stupid, obviously just a big ad, but its stories has some really interesting implications I don't think the producers were aware of.

  • @connorwalters3240
    @connorwalters3240 5 лет назад +11

    I loved this. Thanks Joel, you've helped me completely reevaluate how I look at art in general, and film specifically.

  • @luqmanturaki
    @luqmanturaki 5 лет назад +53

    big joel is so cute

  • @rorocervenka4022
    @rorocervenka4022 5 лет назад +30

    I expected this being a meme. Got something completely different and still wasn't dissapointed.

  • @atlasmonkeyleon
    @atlasmonkeyleon 5 лет назад +46

    Eat a spoonful of honey each time Joel says "social hierarchy".

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 4 года назад +4

      Drain the jar when he says "the bee is cucking him"

  • @noobrat
    @noobrat 5 лет назад +134

    BEEg Joel

    • @Joe_Yacketori
      @Joe_Yacketori 5 лет назад

      BEEG Yoshi!

    • @yordlop
      @yordlop 5 лет назад

      "Yeah, he's... just sitting there."

  • @BloodRefiner
    @BloodRefiner 5 лет назад +172

    Joel you clever bone, taking a simple thread of trash movies and slowly building a socialist web out of them.
    You genius you, you actually did it.

  • @chloeg939
    @chloeg939 5 лет назад +27

    A lot of this seemed oddly reminiscent of the most recent How To Train Your Dragon movie. It ends with Hiccup accepting a full segregation of humans and dragons, even though Birk was able to live in harmony with them for years, because of figures seeking to capture them. Effectively that's just saying that the hierarchy hiccup removed in the first movie and fought against others attempting to instil in the second was misguided and actually these two classes can't coexist in mutually beneficial manner.

    • @bigfatweevil
      @bigfatweevil Год назад

      i know this comment is 4 years old but i remember watching that movie in theaters and being genuinely shocked by its messaging. id love to see a thorough breakdown of it if it doesnt exist already

  • @Jerthanis
    @Jerthanis 5 лет назад +22

    I've really enjoyed your series on Dreamworks movies, and I think they've helped me understand why I like Dreamworks movies generally better than I like Pixar movies. Now, obviously Pixar movies are better made in an absolute sense. Mauler's robot probably would rate them higher or whatever. But I think in this video you get at the fundamental core of Dreamworks' philosophy, that the world must change for our characters to be happy, and the things that hold our society back are some false understanding of the past as idyllic, while Pixar seems to say that the world is changing no matter what we do, and we must find our place in a darker, more miserable future, or die.

  • @coffeedude
    @coffeedude 5 лет назад +3

    I really like the way he thinks about and analizes things. Every video is super interesting to me and they always end in surprinsgly deeper messages than I had thought of initially.
    Definitey favourite youtuber right now!

  • @zz55jf
    @zz55jf 5 лет назад +17

    Maybe the importance is in choosing where you want to be in life. If you want to go beyond expectations that's great, but if you are happiest living your life exactly where society expects, that's fine too. I'm sure there are other examples, but from my own experience, people look down on housewives because people percieve them as not striving for more, but some are just fulfilled by caring for their families, even if part of society thinks the housewife should find it oppressive. The fish and the animals didn't have things that bad, and neither did shrek by ogre standards, so after they explored other options, they discovered home was what made them happy. The Bees on the other hand were treated poorly and made a choice to change. I LOVE this series but would like to hope DreamWorks is inspiring the ideals of both ambition and gratitude, and not remaining in one's place to protect the status quo.

    • @shadowmaydawn
      @shadowmaydawn 5 лет назад

      The issue isn't so much the fact that people can find happiness in the situation they're in it's just that when there is an artificial hierarchy in place that denies people their freedom than their complacency is allowing that system to prolong its existence. The animals have lost the part of the forest that provided them with food, the fish are still serving under a capitalistic and racially divided system and the Fairytale beings would have been kept segregated and forced live in squaller if Sherk didn't indirectly depose of Farquaad.

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 5 лет назад +33

    Oddly, Bee Movie is the only part of the "Dreamworks Trash Trilogy" that I haven't watched. I'm not sure if I'm going to watch it, but I'm more interested than I was before.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад

      It's about 20 minutes too long, bring a friend.

    • @jaschabull2365
      @jaschabull2365 5 лет назад

      My experience exactly.

    • @colin3ds1
      @colin3ds1 3 года назад

      Its a rollercoaster of a movie but its worth it

  • @TigerAceSullivan
    @TigerAceSullivan 2 года назад +1

    just binged a ton of your videos. wanna say thanks for speaking out loud the names of each part of your video essays; so many people just put a title card and assume everyones watching when theyre just listening

  • @Lugiaskr
    @Lugiaskr 5 лет назад +44

    thank god someone finally sees the value of bee movie

  • @ericdorland3707
    @ericdorland3707 5 лет назад +58

    We should all aspire to be revolutionaries like Barry

    • @Tundra0stalker
      @Tundra0stalker 5 лет назад +10

      "We should all aspire to bee* revolutionaries like Barry."
      There, fixed it for you, comrade.

    • @ericdorland3707
      @ericdorland3707 5 лет назад

      @- vaska. oh yeah

    • @vedantthapar3666
      @vedantthapar3666 4 года назад

      Comrade Barry, may he rest in bees.

  • @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
    @soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 5 лет назад +23

    Love how Big Joel who's actual name isn't Joel, always looks like he's about burst out into laughs lol.

    • @imnobd8757
      @imnobd8757 Год назад

      Looking at his channel little joel, you have been right all along.

  • @RykerJones28
    @RykerJones28 5 лет назад +3

    I kinda love that this is what my life as an adult has become. Standing at a bus stop, watching an intellectual video essay about the nuances of Bee Movie. A movie I have only had the pleasure of watching due to my children liking anything bright and colourful. Yet here I am, nodding along.

  • @BREADSWORD
    @BREADSWORD 5 лет назад +18

    Big Joel Stay Dropping Bangers Fr !

  • @krombopulos_michael
    @krombopulos_michael 5 лет назад +1

    These videos are really great. I honestly love how Joel talks about this stuff. Sort of just interpreting it in terms of its themes and writing and not really passing judgement on it. I hope we get more of these to come.

  • @katokianimation
    @katokianimation 5 лет назад +82

    Hello, love your works, keep it up! Can I ask you, are you willing to make a video about Robots (2005) in the future?

    • @casir.7407
      @casir.7407 5 лет назад +16

      the blue sky produced movies (ice age, rio, robots) could be a new trilogy of animated trash -if ice age wasnt actually good

    • @andresacosta4832
      @andresacosta4832 5 лет назад +3

      @@casir.7407 Meanwhile, Robots is now a meme somehow

    • @ExhaustedWombat
      @ExhaustedWombat 3 года назад

      @@casir.7407 sure... if.

  • @roxycontinandvodka
    @roxycontinandvodka 5 лет назад +25

    We are all cogs in a machine.
    We cannot escape.
    We are slaves.
    "A mechanized automaton"

  • @Ash1ey_31a1ne
    @Ash1ey_31a1ne 4 года назад +5

    Just stumbled upon this and it's strangely uplifting & inspiring.

  • @abugoha4793
    @abugoha4793 5 лет назад +1

    This was really good. Big Joel with another thought provoking and heartfelt look at something I never even thought was worthy of criticism. The discussion honestly makes me appreciate the film in a way I never would have guessed

  • @JamesTullos
    @JamesTullos 5 лет назад +32

    Bee Movie is literally perfect.

    • @bereftspud279
      @bereftspud279 5 лет назад +4

      It's my favorite bee chad

    • @marcino457
      @marcino457 5 лет назад +6

      “The worldbuilding of Bee Movie is pretty OK actually”, coming soon to YT channel near you

  • @KirbySaxton
    @KirbySaxton 5 лет назад +9

    You really do the work and go the extra mile to analyze these films. Your videos... man, they just get better every time

  • @mawichan
    @mawichan 5 лет назад +16

    I had never seen someone talking about bee movie with such a gleeful expression on their face. I loved that.

    • @YourFaceisPretty
      @YourFaceisPretty 5 лет назад +1

      Would you believe me if I said there was another person who had as much fun? Because, oh man, Quinton Reviews has a great time with Bee Movie. In a different way, of course. Highly recommend as companion Bee Movie material.

    • @mawichan
      @mawichan 5 лет назад

      @@YourFaceisPretty Thanks man, I'll check it out!

  • @jdw5956
    @jdw5956 5 лет назад +15

    I haven’t started this video yet, but I want to say that Bee Movie is unironically one of my favorite movies and I have seen it more times than any other movie.

  • @theCarbonFreeze
    @theCarbonFreeze 3 года назад +8

    This movie's such a meme that I couldnt tell if you were serious or doing a bit

  • @chapter_black3234
    @chapter_black3234 5 лет назад +122

    So I realize just how Jordan Peterson-esque the trash era of DreamWorks was

    • @ernestotorelli1209
      @ernestotorelli1209 5 лет назад +33

      I can hear the sound of a messy room from around here

    • @CoWinkKeyDinkInc
      @CoWinkKeyDinkInc 5 лет назад +44

      was there even any lobsters in Shark Tale? checkmate athiests

    • @chapter_black3234
      @chapter_black3234 5 лет назад +1

      @@CoWinkKeyDinkInc Shaun the Sheep is right!

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад +47

      Why are woodland creatures caring about politics when their own habitat isn't even in order? Can't you see how stealing nachos leads to chaos and nihilism?

    • @Shadowplay4Cats
      @Shadowplay4Cats 5 лет назад +24

      Something something cultural marxism

  • @niarose6435
    @niarose6435 5 лет назад +14

    You have the cutest face on RUclips! Jesus I melt just watching you!

  • @aaronsmith1023
    @aaronsmith1023 5 лет назад +1

    I think we all had a good time with you too Joel. I loved your unique perspectives on these movies.

  • @vivian-sasha-taylor
    @vivian-sasha-taylor 4 года назад +12

    "This bee is cucking him" is the best sentence ever spoken by the human tongue.

  • @Yahoodoraze
    @Yahoodoraze 5 лет назад +6

    I desperately need someone to make a video essay about Antz and I think you’re the guy

  • @888fluffy
    @888fluffy 5 лет назад +10

    I can't believe my heart was lifted into revolutionary action by the altruistic nature of barry b benson

  • @playdead5493
    @playdead5493 5 лет назад +78

    Bees aren't real. That's why they needed to make an animated film.

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 4 года назад

      @@SpagEddie8113 Not so much a joke these days

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 4 года назад +4

      Noah Karpinski I made this comment over a year ago, I don’t think it’s funny anymore it’s just edgy

    • @noahkarpinski1824
      @noahkarpinski1824 4 года назад

      @@SpagEddie8113 Not trying to shame you, it's just another example of how insane things have gotten

    • @SpagEddie8113
      @SpagEddie8113 4 года назад +2

      Noah Karpinski I know you aren’t shaming me, and I agree with you, I’m shaming myself because my joke legit just wasn’t funny imo

  • @tyb4028
    @tyb4028 5 лет назад +3

    its weird to hear u say that these movies came out when you were a kid cause I grew up with these movies and im just 16 anyways you become my favorite person everytime I go back to watch your videos

  • @TehFingergunz
    @TehFingergunz 5 лет назад

    big joel please never stop making videos these are absolutely fantastic

  • @MiketheNerdRanger
    @MiketheNerdRanger 3 года назад +4

    The significance of Barry talking to a human and it just being completely okay flew over my head when I first saw it. But I did find myself asking, "wait, why aren't bees supposed to talk to humans again?"

  • @Emike-nc9ew
    @Emike-nc9ew 5 лет назад +24

    *I love this anime*

    • @Delta0001-y
      @Delta0001-y 5 лет назад +2

      I prefer Bee Movie, The Manga

    • @fangirldreamer748
      @fangirldreamer748 5 лет назад

      What are you talking about?!??!?!? 🧐🤔🙄😡🤬

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 5 лет назад +21

    It's Bee Movie, but critically analyzed instead of being a bunch of memes

  • @benzyl350
    @benzyl350 5 лет назад +55

    Sargon if you don't wanna participate in Bee movie discourse, because 'who cares,' please refrain from commenting or making a response video about this.

    • @matti.8465
      @matti.8465 5 лет назад +25

      But if he doesn't make a video how will we know how little he cares?

  • @stevepittman3770
    @stevepittman3770 5 лет назад +2

    Man that was a seriously good set of videos digging into these movies.

  • @Delta0001-y
    @Delta0001-y 5 лет назад +54

    You like jazz?

  • @evam6961
    @evam6961 5 лет назад

    I love coming back from night out still buzzed a lil bit and watching this type of videos

  • @Peter
    @Peter 5 лет назад +68

    you should compile the entire criticism from shrek to bee movie in a book

    • @PixelAspen
      @PixelAspen 4 года назад +5

      This is actually a good idea

  • @johnovember
    @johnovember 5 лет назад +21

    1:08 we are getting DANGEROUSLY close to loss folks

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen 5 лет назад +3

      www.iceposter.com/thumbs/MOV_cfd4d4b1_b.jpg

    • @stargirl32102
      @stargirl32102 5 лет назад

      now i'm just imagining loss with dreamworks characters and i'm Disturbed

  • @andyanderson100
    @andyanderson100 5 лет назад +22

    Adam is the labor aristocracy

    • @Trynottoblink
      @Trynottoblink 5 лет назад +1

      Seriously, fuck Adam. I got mad at him when that clip played.

    • @WibblyWobbly1905
      @WibblyWobbly1905 7 месяцев назад +1

      Adam "trade union president" the bee

  • @breenieshaye3276
    @breenieshaye3276 5 лет назад

    omg I love how much you love analyzing movies. Reminds me of me back in high school when we "had" to do an analyzing this poem assignment.

  • @moonymonster
    @moonymonster 5 лет назад +42

    Could you review Rise of the Guardians? It has a lot of really interesting themes and it needs more love.

    • @BiscuitAWitch
      @BiscuitAWitch 5 лет назад

      I haven't seen it, should I? Or is it trashy interesting?

  • @annesilva3542
    @annesilva3542 4 года назад +4

    My grandad became a bee keeper after he retired, so this movie haunted me as a 7 year old, honest I felt really guilty because I liked wearing the suit

  • @diegodankquixote-wry3242
    @diegodankquixote-wry3242 5 лет назад +31

    Dreamworks: did you do it?
    Jerry: yes.
    Dreamworks: what did it cost?
    Jenny: everything! I mean what's the deal with cost....

  • @folgerkelley2715
    @folgerkelley2715 5 лет назад

    This was an amazing birthday surprise! Love your stuff keep up the great work!

  • @NachoCheeseDorito-Kun
    @NachoCheeseDorito-Kun 5 лет назад +5

    My favorite joke:
    Barry: "Are you okay?"
    Human: *Pouring coffee onto a plate* "No! :D"