Americans are funny folks. Their infrastructure would put those in third world to shame. They act like they are the only free country in the world, yet scared shitless to live their lives without firearms and wont go to certain areas of their own town. They pretend like they are no none sense straight shooting bunch but so consumed with image cant see a sensible estate cars even if a v70 tank drove right over them.
As an audio enthusiast who's tired of garbage and overpriced "upgrades" I'm really excited about the sound system analysis that you're adding. I think it's an EXTREMELY overlooked part of car reviews and, to my knowledge, you're the first to do it right.
Honestly quite often I prefer the base stereo system vs so called "premium audio" sound systems in luxury vehicles these days. They just make everything louder, not better sounding.
Move to Europe if you want to live surrounded by reasonable people making intelligent decisions. Or stay in the US and watch people drive trucks and 7 seated SUV's.
I have had two wagons. 1990 E300 MBZ and in 2006 purchased a 2006 Volvo V70R. I use a wheelchair so a vehicle that is easy to get in is critical. SUVs are to high. Also if I’m with someone they don’t need to dismantle the wheelchair. They place it in the back. Even if I started walking tomorrow I would still own a wagon. All the benefits of a SUV but it drives like a car not a truck. The Europeans have it right. Wagons over SUVs. BTW: my V70R is a beast to drive. 300 hp turbo and Brembo brakes. What’s not to love. I’ll keep this V70R until an all electric wagon works for me. Did I mention it has a 15 inch sub woofer in the back under the spare.
Volvo: "Our aim is to build the safest cars possible" Volvo: "We made the infotainment system touchscreen only so you have to take your eyes off the road to perform simple tasks"
i hate touchscreen stuff and my mazda has no touchscreen bullshit even if its an -19 model with the highest trim level and the touchscreen even gets disabled during drive forcing you to use the wheel to navigate the infotainment.
@@oliverandersson1991 I've had 2019 CX5 for 3 months now and i ABSOLUTELY love it! No gimmicks and tablets BS all over the place! I never even touch the touch screen ...only using the wheel and voice commands!!
The soundstage is more focused when set to Driver because the time alignment and EQ are then optimized for that seat. No car reviewer covers audio quality seriously. I am very interested in what you will do.
@@nicolasshaffer3161 I follow the V60 since the first day it was shown in 2018 and waited till the hybrid is available in my country, I have driven the V60 a month ago as a D4, and could test the T8 with the B&W sound system in a XC90. What can I say other than: I am going to buy the full package. The T8 has enough power to accelerate the XC90 like the D4 the V60 and it was awesome. The T8 is quiet on the inside and the sound system is so good, my gf, who doubted why would you pay 3k on a sound system, said to get the system so she can use it. Also the seats have to be mentioned too. I was "test sitting" in many cars, and I disliked the seats in all Mercedes and only other seats I liked are the sport seats in the BMW 5 series. In Volvo you can sit for hours without any feelings of backpain. yeah... just waiting for my promotion papers, so I can afford it
@@HERODMasta I had the same issue in BMW and Mercedes cars, i found Audi's seats really nice to sit in for more than an hour. But I totally agree with you on the seats.
I just hope the interior infotainment screens stays solid too. AC controls in the screens, IDK man it doesn't do it for me. Otherwise, I agree it's a great choice of a car.
Mark, my Dad has one of these equipped identically to your tester. I find that your gripe about the sensus system boot time has a work- around: voice command. If you hit the voice command button, it will adjust the temp as the system is still booting at the screen. Just my experience.
My other half has a 2015.5 XC60 T6 R-design (polestar tuned). XC60 has a tiny bit better ground clearance (8" or so). I love both models. It's the wannabe crossovers like the RAV4, CRV, Santa FE, etc. that drive me insane. It's a primary FWD car, you're not fooling anyone. LOL. Volvo at least gives you all time AWD, safety, reliability, and power.
It's because the world has gone SUV crazy.there are some nice ones out there but they're such a trend.i want an estate.always owned them and just prefer them.my misses wants an SUV but I need to change her mind.given a choice it's an estate,all day, every day.
Due in large part to savage geese, I've decided my next car will probably be the new 3, though the turbocharged engine and cooled seats in the CX-5 look really nice too.
What's with this weird crossover? I need my crossovers to sit high from the ground and to have black plastic bumpers. This way I can pretend I'm a world adventurer while on my way to Wal-Mart. - The average American But seriously, this is the best-looking car in the market today. I shall own one someday.
I am so glad that Volvo continues to provide good Wagons in the states. I drove a 2003 XC70 (Volvo's lifted version of the V70) as my first car and really liked it. I especially loved the 5 cylinder engine in it and have been super sad ever since they discontinued it. It makes sense why they did especially for fuel economy reasons as they could never get the efficiency they wanted out of it. I wished Volvo could make their powertrains in their cars actually reliable and easy to fix. This "twin charged" engine sound like a nightmare to diagnose problems.
The plaid cloth “blond city” interior option on the V60 is so much cooler in my opinion. I wish Volvo would offer that same interior option on its other models.
The tweed thing? I don't like it. I don't mind cloth but it doesn't look that premium to me. But I do agree to offer it because some might like it and choose it.
The car's sound system is one of the more important features for me and no one ever talks about :( I'm glad you are going to! Can you also comment on the plastic rattles when listening to music on higher levels?
Thanks for getting information from audio specialist. I know some companies advertise precisely engineered audio angles blah blah and some just say "dem speakers good" but seldomly do reviews give a real take on the audio. That's why I love this channel. Thanks man
@@TurboCroissant I don't think the issue is suspension travel. It's something else. And it is only over really broken pavement and holes. Usually the car rides well.
Mr Goose, Another really good review. Content and production are ‘premium plus’. I usually have no interest in wagons, but your videos are that good. I miss Scott’s contribution in the garage.
savagegeese - hey! Great video as always. I would pay you *good money* to do a video serious explaining the underbodies of cars. I don't know the difference between a multilink and a wishbone suspension. I am illiterate in that capacity. I think people would watch. * $5 and a pack of Trident *
4:52 I have volvo on call and I start cooling the car from the app say 15 to 20 minutos before getting into the car :) Also if you unlock the car, it will also boost the air con to make the environment and with a nice temperature, for sure! I get it volvo is not a nervous quick german car ready to fire "sorry for the joke" but it's like more a relaxing kind of car in every sense even drivin it!
@japanwatchconnection Please don't go with the cliche stuff about Chinese quality. It has nothing to do with China. Volvo has had quality control issues to some degree for years. Volvos are premium cars. People have quality control issues with Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Alfa Romeo and a host of other expensive cars.
The FOUR-C adjustable suspension isn't meant to make the ride more comfortable than the nonadjustable suspension; the ECO and Dynamic modes are why you'd want it. Remember the FOUR-C suspension from the P2 generation cars was harsher in comfort than the nonadjustable suspension cars, but it gave you Comfort, Sport, and Dynamic settings.
I get 30 mpg in an 07 328i wagon on the highway. This Volvo's highway mileage isn't impressive when you're driving a very complex, supposedly advanced 4 banger. The Volvo is really nice, but you're paying through the nose for it.
@Peder Hansen The 328i, a 6 cyl car, weighs just over 3500 lbs and has a 6 speed trans. How many gears in this V60 trans? It's geared for highway travel, yes? No need to get defensive, bud. It's just cars and it should be fun.
@@bassandtrebleclef No, its a all-use gearing. The TG-81SC was supposed to have a slightly wider gear spread and slightly lower gear spacing than the 6-speed. The V60 does weigh a decent bit more. Plus the super-turbo really is not that comparable to a NA 4-cyl. Really not much better than Volvo's Inline-6. But lower emissions.
@@Suction_ Screw Consumer Reports. They have some bug up their asses about Volvos. Read reviews from actual Volvo owners. BMW, Audi, Mercedes is no better. Not everyone that owns a Volvo or BMW or Audi or Mercedes has issues. Some do, some don't.
For the infotainment lag you can just use your phone to remote start the car and warm it up before you sit in it speaking from personal experience, I own a S60 polestar
Good review. Your complaint about harsh feeling on rough roads can be solved with this cousin, the V60 Cross Country which is also 3 inches higher for better ground clearance and harsher weather. Having driven all of the Volvo range, MY Pick is the V60Cross Country!
mrdeeds83 The other thing one could do is get the FWD Momentum version with 18” wheels. On the opposite pole! LOL. Less weight on rear end and more supple ride.
There are 3 audio setups available from Volvo in the US: standard 10-speaker hi-fi; 14-speaker Harmon Karden (standard with Inscription, I believe, otherwise $800); and the Bowers and Wilkins, $3200 upcharge from the HK, $4000 upcharge from the standard system. If you do sign on an audio pro to rate systems, I hope you'll test the standard setups from various brands as well, to truly judge the value.
What a great review. And yes, because I just bought a preowned S60 I want to slather myself in baby oil and roll around in it. But it’s not as rollable as this V60. So I guess flopping around like a fish will have to do.
Either go full electric or introduce 5,6 or 8 cylinder engines, Volvo! You can not put 4-cyl engines in premium cars because (low-revving) 4-cyl engines sound like cheapness and communism.
Most people that buy them don't really care. They don't get off on engine noise and sound like folks reading car reviews do. It's an issue with some buyers, not most. And Volvo is on their way to fully electric. The next Xc90 will have a fully electric option. But if they did that now, it would be too soon.
Gone are the days where easy head unit/sub-woofer/amp upgrades are possible with new(ish) cars. I suspect there are tons of people like me who can't wait to see what Mr. Geese does reviewing car audio.
I love this thing damn such an understated and chill vehicle I’d love to just kinda throw that thing around the burbs put my dog in there too get it all dirty and lived in do a 3 year lease and kinda lean into the brand a little
I have the exact same light colored interior in my Volvo XC90. Just protect the leather and I get it detailed twice a year with a really good detailer. I've had my vehicle for 3 years and it's look no worse for wear than a black colored interior. Not perfect but good enough where no one notices at all. When you buy a car like this, you'll be detailing it regularly anyway, so don't be afraid of the light colored interior, it's totally worth it!!
Crossovers are as generic as the Chrysler K car. I hope Volvo engineers got rid of the plastic dash mounts of the 850R era that broke during the first cold snap and used metal dash mounts for this car. The ride quality of my 850-R could have been improved a lot. Can you fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back? I would love to have one of these for a daily driver and chip it to 400hp.
Another European car that you lease but never buy. The Volvo reliability like many brands has just gone down hill over the years. So lease it don't buy it and you will be very happy I'm sure 👍
Volvo isn't building the V60 T6 AWD for 2020. I just tried to order one, and of they tried to talk me into an SUV. This may be a one year only car. Really sad news. Come on Volvo!
Would you do a throwback episode at turbowski's shop to take the piss out of this year's cars or talk about how they've improved? I'd watch it for the Starbucks jabs alone to be honest.
I do not comprehend how a company like volvo greenlit a car with such a laggy system. They pride themselves in being safe but this lag is the opposite of safe. For that price it's absolutely unacceptable.
I owned two 850R wagons years ago and loved them. You could add a superchip for 325hp, turning the Volvo wagon into a true stoplight sleeper car. Hope they continue to refine and add more performance to this new one, it has a nice stance.
I think that the V60 is sexy! Can a station wagon actually be called sexy, or perhaps I'm a deviant. Oh, and the "slather yourself in coco butter & roll around in it" was laugh out loud hilarious. Thanks for another great review. 😎
Given the ride quality over challenging roads... is there anything you could do to buffer that? Any room for suspension upgrades? Or is that double-wishbone rear suspension just too proprietary to allow for it?
Volvo has had it since 2013. Most of the problems with this car has to do with the electronics, rather than the engine. Volvo has been doing forced induction since the 80s with minimal problems. The old T5 engines were just as reliable as the NA engines.
Two things I didn't like about the Volvos I have driven: 1) No visor adjustment to block sun on the side windows. The sun was always hitting me when it was on the east or west of the car. 2) On center steering. I was always correcting the steering to bring back to center of the lane. I noticed on your test drive you were doing the same. You could see the subtle on center adjustments you were making to keep the car straight. Most cars require this from time to time, but it is constant on Volvos.
The quality of Savage Geese videos has an inverse relationship to the quality of the comments section. As his videos get better, and he gets more subscribers, the comment section gets more inane. A lot of comments on this one basically boil down to a bunch of Americans (and some non Americans) whining about what type of cars other Americans buy, rehashing lame stereotypes at the same time.
Great review! I subscribed after the audio test visuals & explanation. So, so good! As an audio engineer that's a must for my future cars and I'm glad Volvo did it right with this series; I'll remember that. I'm equally glad somebody has enough know-how to record the data and visualize it for folks too! Cheers
Great review! Excellent detail through out, thank you. I currently drive the Audi A4 allroad, but have always wanted the Volvo V60 Cross Country. Are there any plans for a V60 CC review? I'm wondering if the CC will ride anymore supple, then the V60, because the CC comes with 18" wheels and is lifted? I totally agree with you, in regards to how a Volvo drives on rough concrete freeways. One of the reasons I bought the allroad, was for the ride quality, it drives extremely supple and has true adaptive dampers.
Cheers for the great review as always. This is my dream car at the moment so excuse the bias but Volo is the king of the shooting brake. V90 is obviously the king but the v60 is the knight in shining armour. This current style platform Volo is using right now is so sleek and simple!! What isn't there to like?
I own the new V60CC version as well as a one-year-old xc60. Excellent review, I do agree pretty much with all of it. I did downgrade my wheels on the xc60 form 19's to 18's - a good move - and the higher platform of the SUV does seem to have a bit more give and absorption than the wagon. The CC wagon being higher up might also add a touch of give compared to the straight wagon (won't see many of the regular wagon in US). Volvo keeps getting better, these cars are a big move upward and the wagon is a particularly refined machine, maybe more than the xc60. But as he points out in the review, they need now as they have for several generations to up their game on suspension, and while they are certainly improving, they don't match the best out there. That said I am still very much enjoying both our Volvo cars and my wife considers the 2020 V60 CC wagon the best car she's ever had.
They need to get it right. You can't play upmarket without ride suppleness over harsh pavement. If the stiff riding German cars can get it right, Volvo can. They need to make it a priority.
I knew this review was coming and I couldn't wait for it. I'm a Volvo fan (not 100% pleased with the current direction of the company) and I own the ancestor of this car, the 1990s Volvo V40. I'm also a fan of wagons. I actually see a lot of its DNA in this, even the overall side profile looks very similar, of course with much larger dimensions for the newer model. I saw multiple people complain about the ride quality. I think it's due in part to the wheel and tire size, which are just too big IMO. Since this is not a sports car, wheels that are a tad smaller could improve the ride without damaging the handling too much. I really wish Volvo would still offer 5 cylinder options, but with the insane emissions standards we have in Europe (and China) these days, it would be almost impossible for such a small company. Otherwise, I really love this car. The interiors look amazing, the exterior looks so much better than an SUV, and it's all around an amazing luxury family car.
Volvo, since I can remember, has this quality of a strong rebound but seemingly less compression than they should have in terms of their shock damping to spring rates. I think they need to work on that. It's revealed over certain types of roads only. I don't think it is a matter of the tires, it's the rebound and compression. Maybe the suspension can use more travel but I think it's more to do with compression/rebound.
Totally agree on adaptive cruise control with stop-and-go capability. My parents’ 2020 CX-5 has it and I use it even in traffic jams. It just takes away the stress of constantly monitoring the traffic and adjusting throttle and brakes. After using that system, going back to my 2018 Mazda 3’s adaptive cruise control without stop-and-go made me missing that feature. Makes driving so much easier and stress free.
Well, it is a luxury brand. You could probably get it in the mid 40s if you forgo the adaptive suspension, advanced cruise control and the white interior, which are a waste of money anyway in my opinion.
The issue with wagons is that most of them are luxury vehicles, and most potential buyers are not looking for anything above 30,000 dollars. Wagons are primarily family haulers, and in a world where you can buy a rav4/equinox for 25,000, why spend 40+ on a wagon which is lower to the ground and has less headroom. I am personally a real suv guy. I would take a yukon over both a wagon or a crossover anyday. But your average person is just looking for practicality for the best price and it's really just in the crossovers. If GM would make a chevy wagon based on the sedan platform they still make, it would probably sell well.
@@connorPiper0 yes and go ask 100 people if they know what a tourx is. It is the only non luxury wagon and still has a price floor of 30,000. rav4's start at 23 or 24
@@james2042 The Rav4 starts at $26K, XLE starts at $27,300. The reason nobody knows the TourX is that nobody wants wagons in the US. Even the people in these comments who say they love wagons will just buy an SUV anyway. There is a reason the top 20 slowest selling cars have all the current wagons included.
@@connorPiper0 I mean for the past 20 years theres been only garbage quality wagons from all the major brands, it's only recently that they are starting to become decent again. Look at the dodge caliber and whatever the hell caddy had like 5 years ago. When was the last time ford messed with wagons. For whatever reason they just dropped off the face of the earth when the tahoe/yukon twins and the land cruiser got hella popular in 2000. But once 2006 hit everyone switched to cars and development funds went into crossovers, to get 70% of a tahoe in a much more fuel efficent package, hence the crossover was born. So in that development budget there was no room for wagons, which is why the few that came out sucked ass. The only reason the regal tourx is even made is because the platform the regal is on is the only car platform GM is keeping, so they figured why not make a sportback sedan into a true wagon, as its minimal engineering to do so.
I've never been a big fan of wagons, but the other day while driving I saw one of these and absolutely fell in love. One of the most attractive wagons I've seen that's straight from the factory.
I look forward to the Audio quality videos. This is a beautiful car but I know several people who have bought Volvo vehicles and not a single one of them was happy with their purchase.
my volvo is hard on the potholes too, I think it is what you get for road feel suspension. it is what makes the european cars different when you drive them.
Audis, BMWs do better over medium sized potholes and very bad surfaces than Volvos do. I actually like Volvo's ride better (than BMW and Mercedes) except over really bad roads and sudden ridges (Audis ride very well). Volvo needs to master ride suppleness. I'm disappointed that they haven't in the latest cars. They have to get it right in the next generation because that's what makes people think Audi/BMW/Mercedes are more refined. In that respect, they are. Otherwise, Volvo is close to them in ride quality.
That's not what people buy, you can't feel reliability by sitting in a car so people don't care anymore, and people love comfort stuff like heated seats and fancy things like 19 inch wheels They changed styles when they changed leadership a while ago because cheap reliable safe weren't selling when faced with crossovers and luxury options that Volvo didn't have
Yes and no. The problem with Volvo's image is the boxy 240 of the 1970s to early 1990s. The 240 was mostly a plain-Jane poorly performing, slow, not so refined car but was safe. It was Volvos best seller and lasted a long, long time. But at the same time, Volvo had the 264 which had some luxury to it. But the 200 series was a very dated car, as much as some people may love them. The boxy 700 series was introduced in 1982 with the 6-cylinder 760, not the less sophisticated 740, and it was fairly luxurious at the time. It then evolved into the 960 in the 1990s, luxurious but dated. In 2000, with the s80, Volvo moved upmarket and the boxy Volvos were gone. Ford bought Volvo and put it in their premiere group but the EUCD Volvos didn't break any ground . Geely has pitched Volvo even further upmarket and pretty much the full line is stylish luxury cars. Volvo did have some sporty cars. The 850 R, the s70/v70 R, the Polestar s60s. They weren't the AMG Mercedes or M BMWs or RS Audis, but they were quite sporty and fast.
I like the outside shape. My parents had a 2008 S40 and it had the harshest ride of any car I can remember. Not sure if it was because it had the underpinnings of a ford focus or what... My 2014 S60 is firm but acceptable. Of course the thin tires certainly don't help.
The seats look blue from jeans after just 8000 miles? My 250.000 miles beige leather seats are a bit dry and not as soft as they were 21 years ago, but not a spot of jeans color. Could there be something of with the leather quality of the V60?
I have a 2015 V60. It has the same issue in that it feels like it bottoms out over harsh road conditions. It is a fun wagon to drive, but I'll be moving on to a new vehicle in the next 6 months or so. The biggest reason is because of the lack of passenger space in the back seat area. Hopefully they have addressed this in the new version.
Hopefully the crossover fad wears off soon in America and we’ll start getting more options on wagons. I drove a golf sportwagon for the last few years and now going into a bmw wagon and I wouldn’t drive anything else. Sadly the options are sooo limited. Props to Volvo (and Mercedes here in Canada) for sticking to wagons option. Cadillac, VAG and Bmw should still offer more options for wagons. Oh well!
"Its a wagon not a crossover, therefore I wont buy it" -Americans
@@officialyasir No shit right!?!?! And that never happens anywhere else in the world!!! So weird....
Or Americans follow the crowd instead of thinking for themselves. Most of the cuv are not very practical at all
I'm in the US and I can't stand people that love SUVs. Bring on the wagons !
It’s not “American’s”. It’s marketing. The car industry here is ants to sell SUV more than anything else.
@@crossocean5663 there's a reason you fall for it
So it drives like a car?
Yeah!
Same space as an SUV?
Pretty much! Easier to load too
America: I hate it
Hahahaha!
You forgot the fuel economy ;)
Same in Europe :(
Same drive height as an SUV? NO
Same egress and ingress as an SUV? NO
Same ground clearance as an SUV? NO
Wagons aren't for everyone. Get over it.
Americans are funny folks. Their infrastructure would put those in third world to shame. They act like they are the only free country in the world, yet scared shitless to live their lives without firearms and wont go to certain areas of their own town. They pretend like they are no none sense straight shooting bunch but so consumed with image cant see a sensible estate cars even if a v70 tank drove right over them.
As an audio enthusiast who's tired of garbage and overpriced "upgrades" I'm really excited about the sound system analysis that you're adding. I think it's an EXTREMELY overlooked part of car reviews and, to my knowledge, you're the first to do it right.
Nah he's not the first. Maybe the best idk. Brian Cooley is umderapprecaited
Honestly quite often I prefer the base stereo system vs so called "premium audio" sound systems in luxury vehicles these days. They just make everything louder, not better sounding.
B&W have amazing quality speakers, so the fact that they're fitted to the new Volvo's, I'm digging it
Dear Wealthy People, Please buy these high end wagons and start a trend so eventually there will be wagons for the rest of us. #Wagons
Move to Europe if you want to live surrounded by reasonable people making intelligent decisions. Or stay in the US and watch people drive trucks and 7 seated SUV's.
@@derbigpr500 or 5 seater CUV that has less cargo space than this v60, which is also fwd only lol
I have had two wagons. 1990 E300 MBZ and in 2006 purchased a 2006 Volvo V70R. I use a wheelchair so a vehicle that is easy to get in is critical. SUVs are to high. Also if I’m with someone they don’t need to dismantle the wheelchair. They place it in the back.
Even if I started walking tomorrow I would still own a wagon. All the benefits of a SUV but it drives like a car not a truck.
The Europeans have it right. Wagons over SUVs.
BTW: my V70R is a beast to drive. 300 hp turbo and Brembo brakes. What’s not to love. I’ll keep this V70R until an all electric wagon works for me. Did I mention it has a 15 inch sub woofer in the back under the spare.
The problem is that the aspirational crowd who like to show off don't want them.
WTF? Go buy an outback if you want an economical wagon.
Volvo: "Our aim is to build the safest cars possible"
Volvo: "We made the infotainment system touchscreen only so you have to take your eyes off the road to perform simple tasks"
i hate touchscreen stuff and my mazda has no touchscreen bullshit even if its an -19 model with the highest trim level and the touchscreen even gets disabled during drive forcing you to use the wheel to navigate the infotainment.
Volkswagen is trying to do that with the mark 8. GTI reddits are outraged.
@@oliverandersson1991 I've had 2019 CX5 for 3 months now and i ABSOLUTELY love it! No gimmicks and tablets BS all over the place! I never even touch the touch screen ...only using the wheel and voice commands!!
IDIOT!
@AngryPostmanSthlm2 IDIOT!
The soundstage is more focused when set to Driver because the time alignment and EQ are then optimized for that seat. No car reviewer covers audio quality seriously. I am very interested in what you will do.
erlebo agreeed. Audio quality is a must. If it sounds like shit what am I supposed to enjoy. You use the radio as much as you use the car.
@@FishFind3000 You can stand the bad audio only if you have superb engine sound. But radio quality is crucial, especially in silent electric cars
Agreed, I can't wait to see what he does with that, I watch for the thoughts on ride quality and sterio quality.
@@nicolasshaffer3161 I follow the V60 since the first day it was shown in 2018 and waited till the hybrid is available in my country, I have driven the V60 a month ago as a D4, and could test the T8 with the B&W sound system in a XC90.
What can I say other than: I am going to buy the full package. The T8 has enough power to accelerate the XC90 like the D4 the V60 and it was awesome. The T8 is quiet on the inside and the sound system is so good, my gf, who doubted why would you pay 3k on a sound system, said to get the system so she can use it.
Also the seats have to be mentioned too. I was "test sitting" in many cars, and I disliked the seats in all Mercedes and only other seats I liked are the sport seats in the BMW 5 series. In Volvo you can sit for hours without any feelings of backpain.
yeah... just waiting for my promotion papers, so I can afford it
@@HERODMasta I had the same issue in BMW and Mercedes cars, i found Audi's seats really nice to sit in for more than an hour. But I totally agree with you on the seats.
Look at how beefy the suspension components. Volvo’s are heavy and solid for a reason. Thick metal and very beefy parts.
they are also very comfortable for the same reason
I just hope the interior infotainment screens stays solid too. AC controls in the screens, IDK man it doesn't do it for me. Otherwise, I agree it's a great choice of a car.
Mark, my Dad has one of these equipped identically to your tester. I find that your gripe about the sensus system boot time has a work- around: voice command. If you hit the voice command button, it will adjust the temp as the system is still booting at the screen. Just my experience.
Ohad Paran this is genuinely a life changing tip. XC60 here, thank you so much
Love the underbody shots with the arrows for people who don't know a lot about suspension etc. Nice touch. You keep getting better and better...
Its prettier than the xc60, more potent than the xc60 and pretty much have the same space inside. Why on earth people choose the xc60 over this.
My other half has a 2015.5 XC60 T6 R-design (polestar tuned). XC60 has a tiny bit better ground clearance (8" or so). I love both models. It's the wannabe crossovers like the RAV4, CRV, Santa FE, etc. that drive me insane. It's a primary FWD car, you're not fooling anyone. LOL. Volvo at least gives you all time AWD, safety, reliability, and power.
It's because the world has gone SUV crazy.there are some nice ones out there but they're such a trend.i want an estate.always owned them and just prefer them.my misses wants an SUV but I need to change her mind.given a choice it's an estate,all day, every day.
SG: You like wagons?
All 245k Subs: YEEEEEEEEEEERSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHH! ARGHHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH!
100% YES!
Yes!!
You can set the seats and wheel heat to turn on with startup on cold days as a profile setting. Makes the startup lag less of an issue.
I sent my mom to your channel to help her with car shopping, she’s now buying a Mazda 3 😂
Wtf!
Good choice!
I thought you were going to say ".. and now she rolls around in the back seat with a jar of peanut butter."
Cameron Beyer :great choice
Due in large part to savage geese, I've decided my next car will probably be the new 3, though the turbocharged engine and cooled seats in the CX-5 look really nice too.
A bit disappointed that we were not made aware of hooker cargo capacity with seats both up and down.
Could be a deal breaker.
How many hookers are you looking to transport?
@@z28kindaguy How many you got?
What's with this weird crossover? I need my crossovers to sit high from the ground and to have black plastic bumpers. This way I can pretend I'm a world adventurer while on my way to Wal-Mart. - The average American
But seriously, this is the best-looking car in the market today. I shall own one someday.
I am so glad that Volvo continues to provide good Wagons in the states. I drove a 2003 XC70 (Volvo's lifted version of the V70) as my first car and really liked it. I especially loved the 5 cylinder engine in it and have been super sad ever since they discontinued it. It makes sense why they did especially for fuel economy reasons as they could never get the efficiency they wanted out of it. I wished Volvo could make their powertrains in their cars actually reliable and easy to fix. This "twin charged" engine sound like a nightmare to diagnose problems.
The plaid cloth “blond city” interior option on the V60 is so much cooler in my opinion. I wish Volvo would offer that same interior option on its other models.
The tweed thing? I don't like it. I don't mind cloth but it doesn't look that premium to me. But I do agree to offer it because some might like it and choose it.
The car's sound system is one of the more important features for me and no one ever talks about :( I'm glad you are going to! Can you also comment on the plastic rattles when listening to music on higher levels?
Thanks for getting information from audio specialist. I know some companies advertise precisely engineered audio angles blah blah and some just say "dem speakers good" but seldomly do reviews give a real take on the audio. That's why I love this channel. Thanks man
Around 70k for a car is out of reach for 95% of us. Just saying...
For a Volvo no less. I wouldn't pay that much not even for a Merc wagon
@@dumitrache12 but when was Volvo ever cheap?
Whine and whine instead being aspired. That’s why you guys stay broke.
@@dumitrache12 Volvos are expensive. A top Kia Telluride cost about 51K now. A Stinger cost 52K.
I would rather get a V60 Cross Country over any crossover 24/7
Savagegoose's big criticism is lack of suspension travel, so I wish he'd try out the Cross Country version to see if that's fixed.
Me too.
The consensus does seem to be that the CC rides a bit softer
Jonathan Losito really I bought the 2020 outback and off-roading is much better compared to a v60 cross country
@@TurboCroissant I don't think the issue is suspension travel. It's something else. And it is only over really broken pavement and holes. Usually the car rides well.
Absolutely love the idea for testing the sound systems in cars. Keep up the good work, Goose.
Mr Goose,
Another really good review.
Content and production are ‘premium plus’.
I usually have no interest in wagons, but your videos are that good.
I miss Scott’s contribution in the garage.
Volvo can make anything look amazing
And that's how you do a proper informative review
Quite a handsome vehicle. Now,...where's the Supra review?! ;-)
Coming
@@savagegeese Orgasm
@notformebeaky That's not what I heard. It's more a car for real DOUCHE-bags. No need to insult the scumbag population.
BMW Supra
Volvo, Audi, Mercedes, BMW, Buick and Subaru all make wagons. Theres a lot of options.
@deadend that's very true... I drive a 98 Volvo V70R. Just sold my 06 E350 wagon. Love my wagons.
savagegeese - hey! Great video as always. I would pay you *good money* to do a video serious explaining the underbodies of cars. I don't know the difference between a multilink and a wishbone suspension. I am illiterate in that capacity. I think people would watch.
* $5 and a pack of Trident *
Yes please! I would love a good video on suspension systems
The audio options for *driver* do focus the sound on you. Is called DSP and adjust the speaker output to focus on you. Things like time alignment
Maybe you should review golf sportwagen s with awd and 6mt? Vw does build those, although I believe they will be discontinued in the US this year
4:52 I have volvo on call and I start cooling the car from the app say 15 to 20 minutos before getting into the car :) Also if you unlock the car, it will also boost the air con to make the environment and with a nice temperature, for sure! I get it volvo is not a nervous quick german car ready to fire "sorry for the joke" but it's like more a relaxing kind of car in every sense even drivin it!
I wish Volvo would bring back the 5-cylinder.
Ficon i just don’t see these overblown 4’s getting 200k on their clocks, if even those will do the distance.
@@IsitReallyrealreally Si6 T6s are getting there with twin-scroll high-pressure turbos. I don't see why the VEA engines won't.
Volvo design is really top-class. IMO no other brand in its class comes close. It has simplicity, class and premium written all over it.
@japanwatchconnection Please don't go with the cliche stuff about Chinese quality. It has nothing to do with China. Volvo has had quality control issues to some degree for years. Volvos are premium cars. People have quality control issues with Mercedes, Audi, BMW, Jaguar, Alfa Romeo and a host of other expensive cars.
The car's quality is almost as good as your video production quality!
Awesome review, as usual! I'd love to see a Volvo V90 review and how does it compare to V60.
The FOUR-C adjustable suspension isn't meant to make the ride more comfortable than the nonadjustable suspension; the ECO and Dynamic modes are why you'd want it. Remember the FOUR-C suspension from the P2 generation cars was harsher in comfort than the nonadjustable suspension cars, but it gave you Comfort, Sport, and Dynamic settings.
I love Wagons! I drive a 98 Subaru Legacy Wagon, WITH UNDERGLOW and I love it! Practical and fun!
I get 30 mpg in an 07 328i wagon on the highway. This Volvo's highway mileage isn't impressive when you're driving a very complex, supposedly advanced 4 banger. The Volvo is really nice, but you're paying through the nose for it.
Their reliability is apparently horrific. Consumer reports but them on the very bottom
@@Suction_ Volvo knows too. They shortened their cpo warranty with all vehicles with this powertrain.
@Peder Hansen The 328i, a 6 cyl car, weighs just over 3500 lbs and has a 6 speed trans. How many gears in this V60 trans? It's geared for highway travel, yes? No need to get defensive, bud. It's just cars and it should be fun.
@@bassandtrebleclef No, its a all-use gearing. The TG-81SC was supposed to have a slightly wider gear spread and slightly lower gear spacing than the 6-speed.
The V60 does weigh a decent bit more. Plus the super-turbo really is not that comparable to a NA 4-cyl. Really not much better than Volvo's Inline-6. But lower emissions.
@@Suction_ Screw Consumer Reports. They have some bug up their asses about Volvos. Read reviews from actual Volvo owners. BMW, Audi, Mercedes is no better. Not everyone that owns a Volvo or BMW or Audi or Mercedes has issues. Some do, some don't.
For the infotainment lag you can just use your phone to remote start the car and warm it up before you sit in it speaking from personal experience, I own a S60 polestar
Good review. Your complaint about harsh feeling on rough roads can be solved with this cousin, the V60 Cross Country which is also 3 inches higher for better ground clearance and harsher weather. Having driven all of the Volvo range, MY Pick is the V60Cross Country!
mrdeeds83 The other thing one could do is get the FWD Momentum version with 18” wheels. On the opposite pole! LOL. Less weight on rear end and more supple ride.
Ive owned 4 volvos, there is not a single american car or truck can beat a volvo not one
There are 3 audio setups available from Volvo in the US: standard 10-speaker hi-fi; 14-speaker Harmon Karden (standard with Inscription, I believe, otherwise $800); and the Bowers and Wilkins, $3200 upcharge from the HK, $4000 upcharge from the standard system. If you do sign on an audio pro to rate systems, I hope you'll test the standard setups from various brands as well, to truly judge the value.
Just did the Harmon (800) and Bowers (3000) on BMW and the Harmon was garbage, different leagues. But will go over all of this soon.
I wish wagons in America were more popular so I didn't have to be a doctor to afford one.
Goddammit, Turbowski
*Angry reacts only*
What a great review. And yes, because I just bought a preowned S60 I want to slather myself in baby oil and roll around in it. But it’s not as rollable as this V60. So I guess flopping around like a fish will have to do.
Either go full electric or introduce 5,6 or 8 cylinder engines, Volvo! You can not put 4-cyl engines in premium cars because (low-revving) 4-cyl engines sound like cheapness and communism.
Spillow communism😂 stfu
Most people that buy them don't really care. They don't get off on engine noise and sound like folks reading car reviews do. It's an issue with some buyers, not most. And Volvo is on their way to fully electric. The next Xc90 will have a fully electric option. But if they did that now, it would be too soon.
Gone are the days where easy head unit/sub-woofer/amp upgrades are possible with new(ish) cars. I suspect there are tons of people like me who can't wait to see what Mr. Geese does reviewing car audio.
I love this thing damn such an understated and chill vehicle I’d love to just kinda throw that thing around the burbs put my dog in there too get it all dirty and lived in do a 3 year lease and kinda lean into the brand a little
Every bit that ends with LaTodd gets funnier and funnier.
Keep up the amazing work, and please un-furlough Turbowski asap.
Moar Todd skits!
I have the exact same light colored interior in my Volvo XC90. Just protect the leather and I get it detailed twice a year with a really good detailer. I've had my vehicle for 3 years and it's look no worse for wear than a black colored interior. Not perfect but good enough where no one notices at all. When you buy a car like this, you'll be detailing it regularly anyway, so don't be afraid of the light colored interior, it's totally worth it!!
Crossovers are as generic as the Chrysler K car. I hope Volvo engineers got rid of the plastic dash mounts of the 850R era that broke during the first cold snap and used metal dash mounts for this car. The ride quality of my 850-R could have been improved a lot. Can you fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood in the back? I would love to have one of these for a daily driver and chip it to 400hp.
Another European car that you lease but never buy. The Volvo reliability like many brands has just gone down hill over the years. So lease it don't buy it and you will be very happy I'm sure 👍
Volvo isn't building the V60 T6 AWD for 2020. I just tried to order one, and of they tried to talk me into an SUV. This may be a one year only car. Really sad news. Come on Volvo!
Wagon over a SUV any day! Still have my 06' BMW 5 series Sport Wagon.. Devine!
Would you do a throwback episode at turbowski's shop to take the piss out of this year's cars or talk about how they've improved? I'd watch it for the Starbucks jabs alone to be honest.
I do not comprehend how a company like volvo greenlit a car with such a laggy system. They pride themselves in being safe but this lag is the opposite of safe. For that price it's absolutely unacceptable.
I owned two 850R wagons years ago and loved them. You could add a superchip for 325hp, turning the Volvo wagon into a true stoplight sleeper car. Hope they continue to refine and add more performance to this new one, it has a nice stance.
I miss my '95 850 Turbo so much! It had the Upsolute chip and BSR exhaust. Those were the days!
Those 5 cyl dayz r over
v60 Polestar. Can't get too much more performance than that. But it comes at a steep price.
So I’m guessing your saving the best for last.... Honda Accord 2.0 touring mr geesman...... come on !
I think that the V60 is sexy! Can a station wagon actually be called sexy, or perhaps I'm a deviant. Oh, and the "slather yourself in coco butter & roll around in it" was laugh out loud hilarious. Thanks for another great review. 😎
I really wish we bought more station wagons, I love the practicality, looks, and ride of them over crossovers and SUVs.
When does Turbowski get released from prison?
25 to life. It will be a while.
Here in Europe, you can get a D3 diesel with a manual. It has 150 horsepower, and FWD. But still, a manual V60 sounds crazy today.
Love those naca ducts all over the underbody!
Kind of miss my HEMI Magnum after watching this.
Given the ride quality over challenging roads... is there anything you could do to buffer that? Any room for suspension upgrades? Or is that double-wishbone rear suspension just too proprietary to allow for it?
A turbocharged and supercharged engine - that sounds like problems.
Volvo has had it since 2013. Most of the problems with this car has to do with the electronics, rather than the engine.
Volvo has been doing forced induction since the 80s with minimal problems. The old T5 engines were just as reliable as the NA engines.
Two things I didn't like about the Volvos I have driven: 1) No visor adjustment to block sun on the side windows. The sun was always hitting me when it was on the east or west of the car. 2) On center steering. I was always correcting the steering to bring back to center of the lane. I noticed on your test drive you were doing the same. You could see the subtle on center adjustments you were making to keep the car straight. Most cars require this from time to time, but it is constant on Volvos.
I love what Volvo has been doing with their models lately
No plaid? 😭 If I get this I'm definitely getting it with the plaid seats!
Eric Pettersen cityweave.
You can't get the plaid seats with ventilation and massage
@@nicholasfu5937 I know 😭 that's the only down side. Worth it in my opinion, now if only it came in a manual in the United States then we'd be set
@@nicholasfu5937 Fabric seats don't need ventilation as clammy leathers do.
The quality of Savage Geese videos has an inverse relationship to the quality of the comments section. As his videos get better, and he gets more subscribers, the comment section gets more inane. A lot of comments on this one basically boil down to a bunch of Americans (and some non Americans) whining about what type of cars other Americans buy, rehashing lame stereotypes at the same time.
Both Volvo and Buick actually have wagons that I would truly consider purchasing.
notformebeaky
In that case, are Opels any good?
I wish they still sold the V60 in Australia, not just the V60CC. I hate SUVs and had to settle for a sedan
Great review! I subscribed after the audio test visuals & explanation. So, so good! As an audio engineer that's a must for my future cars and I'm glad Volvo did it right with this series; I'll remember that. I'm equally glad somebody has enough know-how to record the data and visualize it for folks too! Cheers
Great review! Excellent detail through out, thank you. I currently drive the Audi A4 allroad, but have always wanted the Volvo V60 Cross Country. Are there any plans for a V60 CC review? I'm wondering if the CC will ride anymore supple, then the V60, because the CC comes with 18" wheels and is lifted? I totally agree with you, in regards to how a Volvo drives on rough concrete freeways. One of the reasons I bought the allroad, was for the ride quality, it drives extremely supple and has true adaptive dampers.
Funny....I was literally just searching your videos yesterday looking for a V60 review.
I'm in the market for a car,tired of my truck I've had for 10 years,tired of SUVs crossovers and trucks,this Volvo is perfect
I'm an *American*, and I also hate this *vvagon.*
Cheers for the great review as always. This is my dream car at the moment so excuse the bias but Volo is the king of the shooting brake. V90 is obviously the king but the v60 is the knight in shining armour. This current style platform Volo is using right now is so sleek and simple!! What isn't there to like?
I own the new V60CC version as well as a one-year-old xc60. Excellent review, I do agree pretty much with all of it. I did downgrade my wheels on the xc60 form 19's to 18's - a good move - and the higher platform of the SUV does seem to have a bit more give and absorption than the wagon. The CC wagon being higher up might also add a touch of give compared to the straight wagon (won't see many of the regular wagon in US). Volvo keeps getting better, these cars are a big move upward and the wagon is a particularly refined machine, maybe more than the xc60. But as he points out in the review, they need now as they have for several generations to up their game on suspension, and while they are certainly improving, they don't match the best out there. That said I am still very much enjoying both our Volvo cars and my wife considers the 2020 V60 CC wagon the best car she's ever had.
They need to get it right. You can't play upmarket without ride suppleness over harsh pavement. If the stiff riding German cars can get it right, Volvo can. They need to make it a priority.
I knew this review was coming and I couldn't wait for it. I'm a Volvo fan (not 100% pleased with the current direction of the company) and I own the ancestor of this car, the 1990s Volvo V40. I'm also a fan of wagons. I actually see a lot of its DNA in this, even the overall side profile looks very similar, of course with much larger dimensions for the newer model. I saw multiple people complain about the ride quality. I think it's due in part to the wheel and tire size, which are just too big IMO. Since this is not a sports car, wheels that are a tad smaller could improve the ride without damaging the handling too much. I really wish Volvo would still offer 5 cylinder options, but with the insane emissions standards we have in Europe (and China) these days, it would be almost impossible for such a small company. Otherwise, I really love this car. The interiors look amazing, the exterior looks so much better than an SUV, and it's all around an amazing luxury family car.
Volvo, since I can remember, has this quality of a strong rebound but seemingly less compression than they should have in terms of their shock damping to spring rates. I think they need to work on that. It's revealed over certain types of roads only. I don't think it is a matter of the tires, it's the rebound and compression. Maybe the suspension can use more travel but I think it's more to do with compression/rebound.
This thing is gorgeous. I would love to have one but the over the top tech in it makes it a lease only vehicle.
Totally agree on adaptive cruise control with stop-and-go capability. My parents’ 2020 CX-5 has it and I use it even in traffic jams. It just takes away the stress of constantly monitoring the traffic and adjusting throttle and brakes. After using that system, going back to my 2018 Mazda 3’s adaptive cruise control without stop-and-go made me missing that feature. Makes driving so much easier and stress free.
Its so expensive though. Your tester is in the high 50s low 60s.
Well, it is a luxury brand. You could probably get it in the mid 40s if you forgo the adaptive suspension, advanced cruise control and the white interior, which are a waste of money anyway in my opinion.
V60 starts at $39k. A lot of the fun goodies cost $$ but you can def order a more stripped model for low 40s and have a great car
The issue with wagons is that most of them are luxury vehicles, and most potential buyers are not looking for anything above 30,000 dollars. Wagons are primarily family haulers, and in a world where you can buy a rav4/equinox for 25,000, why spend 40+ on a wagon which is lower to the ground and has less headroom. I am personally a real suv guy. I would take a yukon over both a wagon or a crossover anyday. But your average person is just looking for practicality for the best price and it's really just in the crossovers. If GM would make a chevy wagon based on the sedan platform they still make, it would probably sell well.
They did, the TourX. It does not sell well. It is the same price as a XLE Rav4.
@@connorPiper0 yes and go ask 100 people if they know what a tourx is. It is the only non luxury wagon and still has a price floor of 30,000. rav4's start at 23 or 24
@@james2042 The Rav4 starts at $26K, XLE starts at $27,300.
The reason nobody knows the TourX is that nobody wants wagons in the US. Even the people in these comments who say they love wagons will just buy an SUV anyway. There is a reason the top 20 slowest selling cars have all the current wagons included.
@@connorPiper0 I mean for the past 20 years theres been only garbage quality wagons from all the major brands, it's only recently that they are starting to become decent again. Look at the dodge caliber and whatever the hell caddy had like 5 years ago. When was the last time ford messed with wagons. For whatever reason they just dropped off the face of the earth when the tahoe/yukon twins and the land cruiser got hella popular in 2000. But once 2006 hit everyone switched to cars and development funds went into crossovers, to get 70% of a tahoe in a much more fuel efficent package, hence the crossover was born. So in that development budget there was no room for wagons, which is why the few that came out sucked ass. The only reason the regal tourx is even made is because the platform the regal is on is the only car platform GM is keeping, so they figured why not make a sportback sedan into a true wagon, as its minimal engineering to do so.
I've never been a big fan of wagons, but the other day while driving I saw one of these and absolutely fell in love. One of the most attractive wagons I've seen that's straight from the factory.
WAGON!!!
I look forward to the Audio quality videos. This is a beautiful car but I know several people who have bought Volvo vehicles and not a single one of them was happy with their purchase.
Beauty is only skin deep with a modern Volvo.
Why were they not happy?
my volvo is hard on the potholes too, I think it is what you get for road feel suspension. it is what makes the european cars different when you drive them.
Audis, BMWs do better over medium sized potholes and very bad surfaces than Volvos do. I actually like Volvo's ride better (than BMW and Mercedes) except over really bad roads and sudden ridges (Audis ride very well). Volvo needs to master ride suppleness. I'm disappointed that they haven't in the latest cars. They have to get it right in the next generation because that's what makes people think Audi/BMW/Mercedes are more refined. In that respect, they are. Otherwise, Volvo is close to them in ride quality.
save the wagons
YES!!!
hail the wagon
CTS-V wagon too bad I could not afford it then nor now but if I could! that would be my choice
Was Volvo always this luxury? I always thought they were more of a chap safe reliable kind of auto company...
That's not what people buy, you can't feel reliability by sitting in a car so people don't care anymore, and people love comfort stuff like heated seats and fancy things like 19 inch wheels
They changed styles when they changed leadership a while ago because cheap reliable safe weren't selling when faced with crossovers and luxury options that Volvo didn't have
In 1998 Volvo made their first full luxury car and has been a luxury/premium brand since. (In the US)
Volvo's have never been cheap.
Yes and no. The problem with Volvo's image is the boxy 240 of the 1970s to early 1990s. The 240 was mostly a plain-Jane poorly performing, slow, not so refined car but was safe. It was Volvos best seller and lasted a long, long time. But at the same time, Volvo had the 264 which had some luxury to it. But the 200 series was a very dated car, as much as some people may love them. The boxy 700 series was introduced in 1982 with the 6-cylinder 760, not the less sophisticated 740, and it was fairly luxurious at the time. It then evolved into the 960 in the 1990s, luxurious but dated. In 2000, with the s80, Volvo moved upmarket and the boxy Volvos were gone. Ford bought Volvo and put it in their premiere group but the EUCD Volvos didn't break any ground . Geely has pitched Volvo even further upmarket and pretty much the full line is stylish luxury cars. Volvo did have some sporty cars. The 850 R, the s70/v70 R, the Polestar s60s. They weren't the AMG Mercedes or M BMWs or RS Audis, but they were quite sporty and fast.
I like the outside shape. My parents had a 2008 S40 and it had the harshest ride of any car I can remember. Not sure if it was because it had the underpinnings of a ford focus or what... My 2014 S60 is firm but acceptable. Of course the thin tires certainly don't help.
My ex-wife had a 2006 s40. It rode beautifully over rough roads when it was new. The Focus actually had a good suspension.
The seats look blue from jeans after just 8000 miles?
My 250.000 miles beige leather seats are a bit dry and not as soft as they were 21 years ago, but not a spot of jeans color.
Could there be something of with the leather quality of the V60?
Also, thank you Mr. Savage for another amazing review.
I have a 2015 V60. It has the same issue in that it feels like it bottoms out over harsh road conditions. It is a fun wagon to drive, but I'll be moving on to a new vehicle in the next 6 months or so. The biggest reason is because of the lack of passenger space in the back seat area. Hopefully they have addressed this in the new version.
Huge difference in rear seat with the redesign
The info system is a FAIL from me. There should be NO lag or screen freezing this gar into the 21st century.
Stunning looking car though
it’s a GREAT looking car. Reliability wise, I’d run for the hills.
Exactly.
Hopefully the crossover fad wears off soon in America and we’ll start getting more options on wagons. I drove a golf sportwagon for the last few years and now going into a bmw wagon and I wouldn’t drive anything else. Sadly the options are sooo limited. Props to Volvo (and Mercedes here in Canada) for sticking to wagons option. Cadillac, VAG and Bmw should still offer more options for wagons. Oh well!
I take off my jeans when driving my V60 with white seats.
Like a true gentleman.
I don't know why Volvo went from beige seats to white seats. Beige seats didn't show the dirt and dyes as much.