@@discount_name9065 i am both glad that a diplo main agrees with the herding... But also sad that a diplo main agrees with the herding... That poor noodle
Ideas for diplo: 1. upgrade dip's speed if they not going to make its hp higher than maybe make it a bit faster 2. upgrade health If not going to make it faster than upgrade its health 3. Make it a dinosaur built for range If they not going to upgrade it's health or speed then maybe give it some range abilities like replacing it's mmb with a neck swipe instead and also to make it fair for carnis then lower its neck height
I think Diplo is just a lost cause ngl. Giving it an hp to like 19k adult and 25k elder might do well but Sauro packs will still destroy you there isnt much that can be done. Neck swipe wouldnt make sense on something with a relatively skinny neck like Diplos and would honestly be suicidal unlike for Apato which has a very thick neck
I love how how diplo is pretty much an B/A tier because they're invis now. Sometimes they are sometimes they aren't and every time they aren't they get cooked up on a grill.
Ye, i agree with your opinion But one simple fix that could make diplodicus a little bit better, and it is to make the 1st attack hitbox at the very tip of the tail, it could be rlly useful in some scenarios 1. If your being chased by a sauro/torvo pack, you can slap em with your tail multiple times while being out of reach, wich will do either 500 or 600 dmg (maybe even more!) So the sauros/torvos will have 2 options, either try to chase you down, losing health at a fast rate, or stop the chase 2. The tail could be used as a tool to keep your oponents at bay, for example, imagine 3 torvos circeling you, you know they are waiting for an opertunity to strike so you stay alert, one torvo tries to bite your bum but you slap em with your tail, basically a free hit if your far enough, you repeat this process until they die or run away This and buff dips health to 20565 and we got a better dinosaur
I remember spending a lot of fossils on torvo before the jurassic update and for some reason I never bought it... Now it costs 5 times as much with mastery (which I dont have)... Fun.
Finallyyy this video about to be a masterpiece Edit:It was amazing and it explains jurassic ecosystem quite well and how it's balanced even tough I think yang should be higher please more with other eco systems
@@Bananajuicefr oh, i will dawg, and yes, maybe i did yang dirty, but i believe that, unless you want torvo, there still isn't that much incentive to grind for it and use it
I love playing diplodocus and actually have fun with it. The reason? I just always go around trying to find lone sauros or torvos and just jump them and trample until they die.
You got a really good point on why diplo is not that viable but I like playing as diplo mainly because i like passive gameplays and I a skilled diplo maybe able to beat a sauro in a 1v1 (not sure about a 2v1) btw the devs better make diplos rear up better like maybe a faster rear up or a quicker stomp animation btw you said certaos controls the beipi population 💀💀 Edit; I also think diplos health should be buffed cuz if 3 trovos were to attack a dip and aim onlly for the base of its tail then it gonna get mauled ( maybe 20k hp or 24)
dilo is genuinely good, especially for kosing. You can kill fully grown yunnas with relative ease, unless your mother is calling you to do things multiple times while you’re fighting..(based off experience…)
stego is probably the best herbi apex. its the 2nd cheapest apex, destroys sauros (one of the common predators), it can solo probably 2~ torvos and elder stego is just unstopable. thats why i'd rate it an S rank
Wait what happening to conca, and Yang? I’d like to know Also great vid I agreed with a lot of what you said all but the map Reason for that is there is either to much in one place or simply it’s to big because my pc can’t even handle it making me either to slow to hunt or to slow to run away from things making a fun experience almost impossible and yeah it is my pc I’m just saying they didn’t have to go crazy with the map
D for diplo, saddening, but ofc that’s pretty yk… obvious now. It’s kind of mehhh, torvo n sauro have a higher speed so your cooked if three menacing sauros/ torvos, and packs is literally needed just to have a CHANCE at surviving. Stomp is slow so kinda meh, it’s not even fun ngl. Most these points are mentioned in the video, 100% agreeable. (Only reason I play scelido bc hahah funny burrow tunnel system)
@@eltamagoshi in most animals being quadrupedal is faster, but apparently in diplodocus juveniles they would be able to go faster similar to lizards like bearded dragons and frilled lizards. I don’t know if it’s due to the sauropod gait.
@@Skyypixelgamer im pretty sure that's outdated and if any dinosaur group would have that it would be stegosaurids, even PE after the revamp had baby kentros sprinting on two legs, but even then, teen diplo is fast enough and the younger stages are small enough to be inconspicuous
some info on this vid is outdated like torvo being faster than sauro and phaganax needing conca mastery, phaganax needs only allo stage 5 now and both sauro and torvo are the same exact speed at all growth stages
@@maartencartageno i never said torvo was faster, i said its the same speed go for 19:42 in the video as proof, tho i must say that the way i say it sounds like "and faster than sauro" when its "as fast as sauro"
I think its because Machimo cost 200k compared to Allo only costing 40k. Also stats Allo is able to outspeed most of the roster unlike Machimo and still has just as good bleed and base damage, and hp actually. Basically Machimo is a swimming Allo thats slow on land and 5x times the price
I will always be against the idea of ecosystems, why separate the dinosaurs into ecosystems if they were already relatively decent before that? Yang had better chances when he hunted other dinos like para or dace, because of the ecosystems it is no longer sustainable, and now the poor thing will be removed, at least introduce a dino that Yang can hunt in the Jurassic, right? Unfortunately Yang and other dinos will pay because of that.
The most likely reason for ecosystems, I'm assuming, is to have less dinosaurs filling the exact same niche. Acro, saurophaganax, and carcharo all being premiere sauropod hunters in the exact same place is just unnecessary filler. A 70+ sized roster in 100 player servers is also barely functional. A roster of 18-20 playables on one map is way more manageable.
i really disagree with kentro. i've killed allos on multiple occasions and often times ceras wont even try to bother you. d-tier feels really low for what it can do tbh
@@Dacentrurus yes, i just made a community post showing evidence of it, I don't know either why the whole ecosystem is called "Jurassic Flora", but it is
@@danelldev8652 i mean, if you spent all that time mastering apato... I feel you gotta buy it just for the sheer dedication... And if you like playing as sauropods, if not, sauro is the way to go
Elder brachio is scary asf because this such tiny thing called weight multiplier existe
I enjoy your insights on each dinosaur! Really highlights each viable or non-viable reason that a dinosaur will/will not survive in the echosystem.
making all 4 yunnano mains angry
Diplos when a carnivore has bleed (they can't play the game anymore):
I caught myself roling my eyes as i saw cera in 1st and laughed, i cant say i didnt expect it from you lol
lol funny cause I main diplo and the herd thing you were talking about us absolutely right 😂
@@discount_name9065 i am both glad that a diplo main agrees with the herding... But also sad that a diplo main agrees with the herding... That poor noodle
i love seeing my favorite carnivore dinosaur in first place
3:05 man those old theros give me so much nostalgia about the time when it was actually good
Ideas for diplo:
1. upgrade dip's speed
if they not going to make its hp higher than maybe make it a bit faster
2. upgrade health
If not going to make it faster than upgrade its health
3. Make it a dinosaur built for range
If they not going to upgrade it's health or speed then maybe give it some range abilities like replacing it's mmb with a neck swipe instead and also to make it fair for carnis then lower its neck height
4. update the model bcuz it was built more like apato (not brachi)
I think Diplo is just a lost cause ngl. Giving it an hp to like 19k adult and 25k elder might do well but Sauro packs will still destroy you there isnt much that can be done. Neck swipe wouldnt make sense on something with a relatively skinny neck like Diplos and would honestly be suicidal unlike for Apato which has a very thick neck
@CreatureArtist_637 ye ik, still would be quite nice, but if not it;s ok
@@goldenwarrior6888 yeah, I guess so but it would be interesting if diplo gets thicker and gets a neck swipe then I think it could work
I love how how diplo is pretty much an B/A tier because they're invis now. Sometimes they are sometimes they aren't and every time they aren't they get cooked up on a grill.
21:00 just want to point out that Concav is no longer needed for Sauro meaning it only needs Allo mastery now. Great vid btw loved it
Please make more tierlists🔥🔥🙏
I enjoy scelido because i like making giant burrows qith mazes and small entrainces also with emergency exits and multiple rooms
LETS GOOO NEW VIDEO. (Imma have to wait an hour until lunch to watch it all 😭😭😭.)
@@Cryonan hope you enjoy it dawg
570TH SUB :3
Ye, i agree with your opinion
But one simple fix that could make diplodicus a little bit better, and it is to make the 1st attack hitbox at the very tip of the tail, it could be rlly useful in some scenarios
1. If your being chased by a sauro/torvo pack, you can slap em with your tail multiple times while being out of reach, wich will do either 500 or 600 dmg (maybe even more!) So the sauros/torvos will have 2 options, either try to chase you down, losing health at a fast rate, or stop the chase
2. The tail could be used as a tool to keep your oponents at bay, for example, imagine 3 torvos circeling you, you know they are waiting for an opertunity to strike so you stay alert, one torvo tries to bite your bum but you slap em with your tail, basically a free hit if your far enough, you repeat this process until they die or run away
This and buff dips health to 20565 and we got a better dinosaur
It would kind of be impossible to hunt it then and also very unrealistic. A little tip should not be able to do damage.
I remember spending a lot of fossils on torvo before the jurassic update and for some reason I never bought it... Now it costs 5 times as much with mastery (which I dont have)... Fun.
I know this is going to be a W video 👌
Having both elder torvo and sauro is such a flex lol
Finallyyy this video about to be a masterpiece
Edit:It was amazing and it explains jurassic ecosystem quite well and how it's balanced even tough I think yang should be higher please more with other eco systems
@@Bananajuicefr oh, i will dawg, and yes, maybe i did yang dirty, but i believe that, unless you want torvo, there still isn't that much incentive to grind for it and use it
@@eltamagoshi ye yangs is gonna get removed anyway so who cares
@@BananajuicefrWHAT
@@rosangelamariapessoa5852 im sorry you discovered it here and now...
well andre(who answers questions in the dis) said that it's under discussion rn so it isn't 100%yet
W video fr(Im 8 hours late)
I love playing diplodocus and actually have fun with it. The reason? I just always go around trying to find lone sauros or torvos and just jump them and trample until they die.
Could you make a vid for Cretaceous mixed apexes?
You got a really good point on why diplo is not that viable but I like playing as diplo mainly because i like passive gameplays and I a skilled diplo maybe able to beat a sauro in a 1v1 (not sure about a 2v1) btw the devs better make diplos rear up better like maybe a faster rear up or a quicker stomp animation btw you said certaos controls the beipi population 💀💀
Edit; I also think diplos health should be buffed cuz if 3 trovos were to attack a dip and aim onlly for the base of its tail then it gonna get mauled ( maybe 20k hp or 24)
@@Sauropodgaminggaming i didn't say ceratos controls "beipi" population, i said it controls the "baby" population
@@eltamagoshi O my bad
W tierlist
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Every diplodocus main:😡😡😡😭😭😭😢😭😭🤬🤬😭🤬
@@Ventlet547 all three of them
Can you do creatacious upland next? Please
dilo is genuinely good, especially for kosing. You can kill fully grown yunnas with relative ease, unless your mother is calling you to do things multiple times while you’re fighting..(based off experience…)
stego is probably the best herbi apex. its the 2nd cheapest apex, destroys sauros (one of the common predators), it can solo probably 2~ torvos and elder stego is just unstopable.
thats why i'd rate it an S rank
Wait what happening to conca, and Yang? I’d like to know
Also great vid I agreed with a lot of what you said all but the map
Reason for that is there is either to much in one place or simply it’s to big because my pc can’t even handle it making me either to slow to hunt or to slow to run away from things making a fun experience almost impossible and yeah it is my pc I’m just saying they didn’t have to go crazy with the map
@@Bothofoneperson about yang and conca (also dibble and ichty) the are being removed from the survival roster, or at least it's still in discussion
@@eltamagoshi …. Why???
@@Bothofoneperson supposedly because there isn't a niche for those specifically, I don't really get it for some of these
Wait u wont be able to use em in survival??@@eltamagoshi
@@RWDOWNPOUR They will become RP exclusives
D for diplo, saddening, but ofc that’s pretty yk… obvious now. It’s kind of mehhh, torvo n sauro have a higher speed so your cooked if three menacing sauros/ torvos, and packs is literally needed just to have a CHANCE at surviving. Stomp is slow so kinda meh, it’s not even fun ngl. Most these points are mentioned in the video, 100% agreeable.
(Only reason I play scelido bc hahah funny burrow tunnel system)
Outjerked again 😔
W
Honestly i think Sauro would be B tier if it didn’t get its speed buff. It really needed it
Are juveniles diplos able to run on their hind legs to get a speed boost? If not that seems like it could fix one of diplos problems.
@@Skyypixelgamer no... And it would only make it worse seeing that usually quadrupedal animals are faster than bipedal
@@eltamagoshi in most animals being quadrupedal is faster, but apparently in diplodocus juveniles they would be able to go faster similar to lizards like bearded dragons and frilled lizards. I don’t know if it’s due to the sauropod gait.
@@Skyypixelgamer im pretty sure that's outdated and if any dinosaur group would have that it would be stegosaurids, even PE after the revamp had baby kentros sprinting on two legs, but even then, teen diplo is fast enough and the younger stages are small enough to be inconspicuous
@@eltamagoshi oh ok. good to know because I was probably going to run with that for a while lol.
@@Skyypixelgamer its aight dawg, thanks for watching the video
some info on this vid is outdated
like torvo being faster than sauro and phaganax needing conca mastery, phaganax needs only allo stage 5 now and both sauro and torvo are the same exact speed at all growth stages
@@maartencartageno i never said torvo was faster, i said its the same speed go for 19:42 in the video as proof, tho i must say that the way i say it sounds like "and faster than sauro" when its "as fast as sauro"
@@maartencartageno conca not being needed anymore is something i didn't even know was a thing now
Sauro ad > Torvo ad
Sauro elder = Torvo elder confirmed by sr bt
Can we get an RIP for Concav, Icthy, yang, and Dibble 😔
Lol how is Machino placed lower than Allo ? Allo is awful
I think its because Machimo cost 200k compared to Allo only costing 40k. Also stats Allo is able to outspeed most of the roster unlike Machimo and still has just as good bleed and base damage, and hp actually. Basically Machimo is a swimming Allo thats slow on land and 5x times the price
thats just my guess though
also gameplay. It sucks having to sit in the sunlight for 5-10 minutes or menuing through out the whole night
@@goldenwarrior6888 isn’t Machimo 150k
@@goldenwarrior6888 nah Machimo bullies Allo. Also Cera beats Allo
I will always be against the idea of ecosystems, why separate the dinosaurs into ecosystems if they were already relatively decent before that? Yang had better chances when he hunted other dinos like para or dace, because of the ecosystems it is no longer sustainable, and now the poor thing will be removed, at least introduce a dino that Yang can hunt in the Jurassic, right? Unfortunately Yang and other dinos will pay because of that.
The most likely reason for ecosystems, I'm assuming, is to have less dinosaurs filling the exact same niche. Acro, saurophaganax, and carcharo all being premiere sauropod hunters in the exact same place is just unnecessary filler.
A 70+ sized roster in 100 player servers is also barely functional. A roster of 18-20 playables on one map is way more manageable.
i really disagree with kentro. i've killed allos on multiple occasions and often times ceras wont even try to bother you. d-tier feels really low for what it can do tbh
i solo'd a stego as yang one time
You mean fauna right?
@@Marcin9200 nope, that's actually the name of the ecosystem "Jurassic Flora" don't ask me why, ask the devs
@@eltamagoshi Flora refers to planets though
@@eltamagoshidepressing we didn't get the dicksonia ranking 😢
I know, but that's the literal name of the ecosystem, I can't do anything about it
Nowmfor the Cretaceous
Once the Uplands is complete, you bet I'm doing one for it
isnt it fauna instead of flora?
also me personally would put stego in S,kentro mastery is easy and dacentrurus is the only problem
@@Dacentrurus nope, its flora, even the devs refer to it as such
@@Dacentrurus i am referring to the ecosystem's name
@@eltamagoshi ru sure? Flora is the plant life and fauna is the animals
@@Dacentrurus yes, i just made a community post showing evidence of it, I don't know either why the whole ecosystem is called "Jurassic Flora", but it is
Flora? In all seriousness though, the plants need some representation, they're beautiful.
@@oliyes406 that's literally how the ecosystem is called "Jurassic Flora"
@@oliyes406 also... I do need content... You know what? Jurassic actual Flora tier list, there we go
@@eltamagoshi good man
Luego hay que hacer el de uplands en conjunto 🗣️
@@Fumango a huevo
Should I buy sauro or apato guys I’m split please tell me😢
@@danelldev8652 i mean, if you spent all that time mastering apato... I feel you gotta buy it just for the sheer dedication... And if you like playing as sauropods, if not, sauro is the way to go
Ok thanks that really helped lol I didn’t even master dip fully I bought sauro
Man thats a weird plant tier list
Diplo aint that bad tho even tho i dont like it, i have this one memory of me and a full pack of adult allos killed a dip
@CreatureArtist_637 the dip i fought was actually pretty good but it only took like 3 of us to kill it
yanchuano remove :(