Thank you for sharing your story. The more of us that share our experiences of the real deal will awaken many still in and more importantly alerting others! Everything that you've said, I concur 100%!
Living one's life based on the Bible with its very definite and terrifying Apocalyptic message is a very unhealthy and traumatizing way to raise a child, leaving lasting negative effects. So glad to have left that all behind and have been able to heal and find healing and true peace.
I shouldn’t have listened to this while driving it was making me angry. Don’t get me wrong I appreciate that you told the story just the crap you went through and hearing these stories makes me feel better about leaving myself and how I’m not gonna be a puppet of the organization anymore.
I have been on Effexor XR for depression when dealing with mental gymnastic and seeing the truth overtime was not adding up trying to convenience myself to stay in when I really wanted out 5 years ago and Cambia for constant debilitating migraines at least 3 times a week for most of my life. I left the cult 2 months ago and I'm off the medication a 8 months now and magically my migraines have disappeared for 2 months straight and counting only after leaving the cult??. What Alisha said about your body breaking down is absolutely true. How many people in the world probably don't realize the negativity we take on and accept is really causing our mind and bodies to break down.
Absolutely! Sorry to hear but happy you've left. If people truly understood the Science, Neuroscience, and mind & body connection behind their sickness, they'd be shocked. SOOOOO many young sisters were on antidepressants, and through pregnancies, and overweight from depression, creating yet another vicious cycle of health problems. Every emotional response has a physical result.
I just discovered your channel as well as lloyd evans, JT and Lady Cee, and many others so listening to all your channels has helped me in so many ways. I left when I was 17 in the 90's and never looked back and never spoke to another jw again but in 2022 I accidentally came across a ex jw channel and it opened my eyes and didn't realize that I had closure with a ton of bullshit I dealt with back in the day and never finished or flushed down the toilet then after watching I started understanding things I never understood and it finally made sense and I realize I felt jipped in life and now I wish I could go back and fix it and never be apart of it but that ship sailed to listening to all these stories and experiences has some how calmed me down and educated me with all of you guys and your great channels. Thank You. Trust me...listening to all of these stories really helps. It really does even for me 30 years later with backed up feelings that I can now diffuse and feel good mentally only because I never understood certain ways of the watchtower. Thanks. A++++
It's funny how they say that all witnesses are taught the same thing, but the differences between what is acceptable in one place versus another is crazy to me. I was raised in a city and we could go to concerts or other activities whereas friends from smaller towns would be counseled if they did that. I've never heard of people getting counseled for going to therapy. I went myself, and lots of other witnesses I knew went as well. We weren't advised to DO it of course, but certainly weren't advised NOT to.
Great interview, I admire your courage and clarity. It’s clear from the comments that your story resinates with many, but that’s why sharing is so important, it builds up, encourages and brings awareness. I know you’ve done a lot of work on yourself to get to this place, so I encourage everyone to dig deeper too, and not just focus on the pain of your past, but on the fruitfulness of you future. Advice I will take myself, but if only to possess the courage you have. You are a great speaker and I know you can sing too (beautiful voice), I’m sure your proud of yourself as we all are of you too!
I can remember in the mid-eighties a circuit overseer (I do not dignify them with a capital letter) stressing, as they always do, the urgency of the ministry by saying "Everyone in this area who is not in this kingdom hall is going to die very shortly at Armagedon." Not only do you believe you are saving people, you are emotionally blackmailed by the implication that their eternal life depends on how active and successful your ministry is.
Great interview. She grew up in a small town in Canada, and I grew up in New York City. And even though it sounds like our experiences would be a lot different, she and I grew up with mostly the same way of life in this so called “organization”. Since there’s so much control within this cult, I think it’s very much of a cookie cutter experience with regard to the stress and the mind manipulation inflicted upon its members. Congratulations on fleeing this destructive cult!
How they brainwashed us to think that pioneering is a privilege. I never felt that it was; it was hard, arduous work. Yet, watchtower brainwashed to think that it was a privilege.
They use the word “privilege” very loosely. Giving talks, commenting at meetings, cleaning the KH, shoveling the snow, cutting the grass, etc. are all “privileges” to them. Oh yeah, and I’m sure donating money to help pay for the child molestation lawsuits is a “privilege”. Oh wait, I guess that’s really money for the World-Wide work. Yeah right! 😂
Hi Fifth and Alicia : Just finished watching this interview . We live in Ont also , I remember hearing about what you talked about , as I was an elder at the time . Your area was known in Southern Ontario because of the youth . I was an elder for 20 yrs , we just got DF'd three weeks ago for apostasy . They won't let you just walk away . We hadn't been at a meeting for six yrs .Just saw too much that went against the Bible . My family was also well know in the org. here . My Grandfather actually had Russel visit their home early on . A long history as a JW. But don't miss the lies and Hippocrates that are there . Thanks for sharing , we find it interesting hearing others experiences .
Your name sounds familiar. They df'ed you now?? 6 years later?? You know what's weird...I disassociated and my father in law in Congregation and I hand delivered to Georgetown Bethal and they STILL DIDN'T ANNOUNCE IT! I post so much expression on social media-perhaps they worry of me suing? They have reprimanded sisters in my hall as they "saw" they had liked my posts and told them to stop following me or it wouldn't affect their marriage and husbands privileges. I only writing empowering, inspiring posts - I don't play victim card, they want that!
@@ajwirth8291 Hi I have a cousin that lives in Wasaga .I read other posts and saw that's where your from . There's Hershey's in Barrie also . What was you maiden name .? We're in our 60s my parents where friends with bethel higher ups . We had a daughter-in-law in one of the dramas last summer to our shock . Let's keep in touch. If you want
Maiden Name Hutchings. Grandparents Tom & Gertie Andros. Aunt & Uncle in Bethal over 40 years till they got asked to leave- Pat & Tammy Novak@@blainemh
@@ajwirth8291 I am just interested to know why after 6 years they df'd you? I faded about 4 years ago, was 3'rd generation. Milton Henschel used to visit my grandparents in the South. I am still afraid of getting Df'd even though I don't do anything worthy of destruction that I know of. lol I have family that are still in, and are very curious about me leaving. I just don't talk about it.
IM EX WATCHTOWER MEMBER . I FINALLY WOKE UP 2 WEEKS AGO ... I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS AND BEROEAN PICKETS VIDEOS AND DID MY OWN RESEARCH ... 😱.......I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY STORY .
Thank you Alisha, you've helped me to confirm that there's alot of sexual harassment within the organization because women are 2nd class citizens. Those who are ministerial servants, elders and coordinators are the worst perpetrators. For years I've had what anyone in "the world" would call sexual harassment but whenever I mentioned it to anyone in the JW organization I was either accused of over analyzing things or of instigating the situation. Even a coordinator did actually sexually harassed me inside the kingdom hall but I'm a nobody and he is the coordinator. Enough said.
Fifth and Alisha - wow! Thank you so very, very much for this inspiring interview. Alisha, thank you in particular for the courage to speak up in such a powerful way about the impact of JW teachings and policies on women. You describe many harrowing situations in such a clear-minded way - and what comes through is your quest for “the truth” beyond patriarchal rules and damaging attitudes. Your story reflects an individual who has been through so very much of a traumatic nature - yet you’ve emerged a strong, resilient woman who is an inspiration. You’re right: the literature warns about how badly people will do when they leave the organization but you are a powerful - and absolutely necessary - example of someone who has triumphed over trauma. Thank you again Fifth for your sensitive handling of very complex and traumatic accounts that are threaded through with a definite recovery focus. I am truly moved and I know so many others will be too! Warmly, Rody Withers, New Zealand.
Thanks Love. I BARELY scratched the surface about women! My girlfriend and I will be doing a video together and it will be HILARIOUS .... IT'S much needed!!
I remember when I was younger they would tell us stories that everyone who leaves the organization hits a terrible rock bottom. They all had a horrible life after leaving. I would sit and contemplate what would be my rock bottom? Would I have at least a few years of happiness before I had to come crawling back from the gutter? Not only did I never hit rock bottom, but my life got better and I found out what true happiness is.
I can't even describe the feeling I had when I officially left. I was born into the cult and the feeling had to be very similar to someone that gets out of prison after serving 20 years. It was the best thing I ever did for myself and never regretted it once. Freedom is not a strong enough word to describe it.
Excellent video! She hit it on the nail about the WT's harsh control and rigid disciplines. They smother your potentials and discourage any and all self awareness. The panic and fear the WT stokes as well as their sadistic expectations for youth is inhumane and unscriptural. So glad she's free!
Very, very good point what Alisha said about those JW kids ending up attracting a life of extreme lows because that's what they believe, because of the brainwashing of the watchtower. Because of my coaching background not only do I agree with that, but I know this to be a fact.
Wow!! Amazing story and just confirms how it’s all about image!! This organization is about how they look and don’t care how they make you feel. Thank you for sharing ❤️💪
I always feel sad to hear fellow witnesses having difficulties with JW Org and or other witnesses...I am shocked to hear what stressful things some are dealing with... Most or all of their complaints are warranted...I and my two adult children have not had unpleasant experiences worth speaking of...Wish I could suggest something to help...Some would say rely on Jehovah...I strongly feel we ourselves are mostly responsible to search for solutions to our problems, the scriptures are often helpful as well as a fellow witnesses...Be very careful in choosing who to talk to...
All the integration they do to the friends is almost criminal. But when they on the stand in court. They lie and mislead and feel like they dont have to tell the truth. Ain't that a twist.
Wow, Wow!It's been a while ... seemingly Fifth! Happy New Year! Thanks for the new video. Thank you too Alisha for sharing how hard it is to be a Witness, especially a pioneer and exposing how much we had to put on a front to appear that we were in step with the Organisation
You're really collected and well spoken, congratulations on your progress in life, your growth and the clarity you have found. When I see both of you, side by side, by heart shines with pride!
MY EXPERIENCE I love when more former Witnesses come together united adding to the new family. I know your outcry, pain, mental disparity, etc. I been baptized since June 3rd, 2012 and studying little before that. I progress fast through the " Bible teach book" publication when it was in yellow lol then progress quickly through the " Remain in God's Love" publication both within a month in a half cause I studied with my Bible teacher daily for hours. Soon qualified for my baptism at a " Special Day Assembly." I gave many public talks, I held the microphones in the congregation meetings, I participated in the cleaning of the Kingdom Halls, I was getting more hours than what's required for regular pioneers in field service ministry . I made many friends and even brought in some I knew from " the world." I grew an enormous love for the supposed " truth " and for Jah . I traveled to New York driving the entire way with a group that invited me and saw all 3 "Bethel facilities ." There I saw the headquarters of the Governing Body and my connections help me see rooms and more than what they actually are to give in these tours. I have many pictures of this experience. Traveling all throughout the country for this religion doing everything u can imagine. Yet.... I started getting extremely depressed cause the more I elevated myself...the more I was exposed to seeing which was so disturbing even heart breaking in many respects. I notice how so many in the religion idolize man . How? Ever notice that when " Special Guest" appear now suddenly everyone comes to the Kingdom Hall Meeting and all now dress up in expensive suits with bow ties to go out in field service? All cause maybe the " Traveling Overseer " is there which was so fake to me. They call it " hospitality...yet it was idolizing cause everyone competing to get his attention. To knock on doors with him, to go out to eat with him, to talk to him first after his talks, and everyone is acting like extra than usual. Once he leaves its back to the opposite. I also noticed that ones that come out the " world " get treated a little differently than the ones who grew up in the religion. Like in meetings...they're hands get picked first over yours. They get invited everywhere more than u. Many didnt work with me just my teacher most times daily. Times where my hand was literally ignored while sitting up front like wow! Elders always get called the most over all and their wives then kids. It's like levels to this of favoritism. Being related to special men can get u greater protection too from wrongdoing than average ones. Steady observing...I saw how much godly devotion, praise , and worship didnt go to " Jehovah God." It all went to the " Governing Body." The supposed "annointed" men who are the Elites over the entire faith of Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide. They are the men elevated to God like status. Can't question them or you'll be in big trouble. So I researched more , prayed, read Bible, and the more I began to look outside of our bias websites JW.org, or the JW broadcast, the Watchtower society's literature, etc I saw the truth about " the truth." Examples are as follows: The over 5 thousand child sex abuse cases aired live on the news where the Governing Body had to speak in front of the Australian government cause their system based off misinterpretation of scripture paved the easy way of molesting children. * The unexpected affair the Society had with the United Nations whom we call the Beast in Revelation that replaced the " death stroked " one . Once confronted and exposed they ended the partnership to save face quickly doing damage control sending many letters and magazines to the members smh they bought it of course. *How we quickly ban anything pagan as unacceptable to Jehovah God like Holidays, birthdays. Etc. Yet I research roots to weddings and saw that wedding " rings" are pagan customs with ritualistic beliefs to why u wear them..also the " wedding cake" and wind chimes are tied to pagan symbolism. Etc. Yet we're allowed to imitate them. I thought if its pagan stay away...yet the Governing Body can do anything even contradict themselves and the masses in the religion blindly follows and defends. * All the false prophecies which the Bible strongly condemns yet our Organization gave more dates of the end of the world....than just 1914. Every prophecy failed of course cause God isn't with them. So once it dont happen they tweak their words and update it to make excuses. The blind brainwashed followers excuse it and say " No they wasn't wrong, The Light was just dim not its getting Brighter. " lol Sadd The Organization back in the day actually practiced discrimination toward African Americans especially seen evident when " Rutherford " was the man in charge. Read all his letters. * The supposed founder of Jehovah's Witnesses Charles Taze Russel was actually a "Freemason ." That's why the earliest additions of the Watchtower magazines had the satanic symbol called " the Knights Templar " symbol seen in Satanic churches to praise the Devil. The " Knights Templar symbol " can also be found in honor of him after his death. Look up his burial grave site..you'll see a giant monument idol of a Masonic pyramid with the same satanic logo the Knights Templar symbol on it. Pyramids, all seeing eye of Horus, Knights Templar symbol, saturn rings worship...all used to praise not God but Satan the Devil. How disappointing yet many excuse or dont even believe it cause they are brainwashed by the cult dominated by man not Jah. *The Governing Body had stocks in companies that made cigarettes and war planes like Lockey Martin , Boeing etc. *Disfellowshiping! This is over exaggerated and misinterpreted from the Scriptures. God never supported flat out shunning cause it wasn't an effective tool to bringing sheep back. They use Paul words about removing a man or not eating with him etc. Or Prodigal Son. Both examples contradict shunning I'll soon make video of. This practice is user by cults when u question their leaders not really God. It's used as a fear tactic after you're baptized. Listen to whatever we say or lose your family, friends, mates, everything u know . Shunning is evil , ungodly, founded by cults, and even Satanist do the same thing . Their exist over 30 scriptures contradicting the practice of shunning. Read your Bible . *Beards? If u have a beard you're not doing anything in relation to Jehovah's Witnesses. No scripture forbids it yet they use " you look like a hippie" as their sole basis.lol All in Biblical times had beards even Christ yet we cant preach if beard is present etc. * Field Service report card. This is your hours, minutes , books, magazine placements, video showings, return visits, etc. when knocking on doors. Turn in every month. You're graded by men and must participate or you will lose privileges and be seen as non spiritual. They grade u observing u closely . Jesus exposes this practice in Matthew 6. Read it entirely. This religion isnt the truth . It's dominated by brainwashing methods and complete worship goes to the Governing Body yet they keep telling themselves no it's for " Jehovah. " I'm speaking out after 8years. Jehovah God isn't the issue...nor the brainwashed Witnesses...its the Governing Body more so who replaced Jah and Jesus ....and put the system in place that made all these sheeple into brainwash zombies. Ex witnesses arent evil apostates or bad people. They woke up and still love all their love ones trapped in the cult. Ex JWs not lost , they're better off. Wake up and stop judging . Love and truth always win not cults founded by Satan.
if its life saving message and so important that life depends on getting the message ~~~~##but surely its finally up to God who lives and dies ~~~##there will always be millions of people who don`t receive the Jehovahs Witness interpretation
+ExJW Fifth Praise the LORD thank you for your ministry, brother Cliff. i was never a jw, but i am learning so much from your RUclips videos. God bless. Agape love
👋👋 me too! grew up in an alcoholic home and delt with violence with the brother's and within my home. I have done a short video on this as well. Bravo thank you for sharing.
Im ex-jw, my gf a muslim, my dad and mom respect my choise of leaving all though my dad can ask me questions and make me want to reconsider studying the bible again. My dad come to term with my gf being a muslim and Im never ever going into any organized religion again. I am keeping my open mind, also looked into the quran as I like researching things like I did with my own religion growing up, find problems there are similar to the ones from stories I hear from other jws, ideology wise. Btw, my dad bipolar, my big brother left the jws, started using drugs and killed himself when I was a child and my sister also left the jws but she was before married to a jw man as she was still a jw. Been a wild ride. 20 now and Im feeling pretty great somehow.
wow so sorry to hear. Stay strong and know that even if you choose to live by Bible, there is no Organized religion whatsoever that has a right to control your life. There are so many many amazing opportunities that lay ahead for anyone - regardless of age! Seek to associate with successful driven people with "like" values. Keep smiling
Hey Fifth! So I've checked out your channel after my subscribers mentioning that you were at the top of their lists of EXJW community channels. After watching I see why! I wish I would've viewed before I made my top channel videos, I would have liked to included yours. When I do another one I will surely be adding you to the list! Great job on the Leah Remini special also. Take care!
Ex JW Kid yeah man Jay the Comedian mentioned you and I’m a big fan of him, so I checked you out. I like the recap you did of the Leah Remini episode. Keep it up!
thank you fith great video and also thank you Alisha for charing your story whao what a story I'm sure this will help alot of people to realize that this is what it cost to be a jw .
My dad wouldn't get me any outside help because once he knew someone who went to a therapist and was told he needed to have sex, so he wouldn't take me to one. That was disappointing. I have gone to a therapist since and it was immensely helpful!
Suggestion to the ex-pioneer sister...you still refer to the JW religion as the "truth"...yes, that is the term we used, but now that we have left, and researched the teachings and history, should we still refer to it when talking to others as the "truth"? Ray Franz brought this to my attention, and kindly passing such food for thought to you.. Thank you for sharing your experience...brotherly love, best wishes.
Yes, I don't say. Don't allow children to either. Speech is powerful for mind programming and as I teach this, my awareness is high. In this discussion setting I used as some still may be on fence. I refrained from MANY FACTS LOL
Thank you very much Fifth and Alicia for share your story. For me was very liberating to leave this religion, but my family still there☹️. JW stole my life I was very unhappy. I still have the trauma so many years of my life wasted😢
Enjoyed this interview. Thank you very much. Alicia-thank you for sharing your voice. There has got to be a way for Watchtower to be penalized for treating underage children like this. Too say that it’s mental abuse is far to mild of a term.
Disfellowshipping and shunning takes away what the true Christian personality should be. It also wipes out the best of what we think of as Godly traits.
What an amazing story. It takes a lot of mental clarity to see the big picture while living in it, then to have the courage to step out of it, it seems your thinking ability is exceptional. I hope that you have the realization that you are now closer to God than you were before, God is love and freedom. This interview is also a fantastic demonstration of what a good interviewer is and does. You asked the right questions then listened to the answer!, you are a highly skilled interviewer. Thanks for all you do.
Dr. tengo muy claro lo que es juzgar y criticar. pero como parece que no voy a ganar o empatar con usted, voy a hacer parco con esto... dejemos nuestra conversacion en este punto. De todos modos gracias por el info acerca de su conocimiento de la organizacion. me encanto! cuidese mucho y gracias .
Nothing about living presently; that is why they don't do Charity-wait on God's kingdom where we will have plenty; meanwhile Watchtower is a 501c3 recipient. A government tax exemption they receive to do charity in the community.
Very true what she said about expectations and self fulfilling prophecies. A bunch of horrific or disgusting things keep being presented as very viable options for children early on. Having seen healthy families, normal kids don’t have that. They are simply not on the table as options, as they should not be. It’s seen as abusive by normal families.
yes, sorry we were trying to wrap up quickly and there was so much to share. He stopped attending December 2017 and has no intention of ever returning. It's been a challenge as a JW man is still a JW man when you leave, as a woman is also, unless you educate yourself. Otherwise you'll never be an EQUAL TEAM....always just a woman beneath her husband. We had cut off some details of this because of timing, but my Father in law, an elder very close to our home, even saw Royal Commission etc but still choosing to carry those lies. He acts as if women should be seen and not heard. He physically lunged at me, yelling, and the furthest from "Christian" behaviour is what they having "running" their hall.
Los dirigentes de todas las sectas son sicópatas ,Pero eso no les exime de responsabilidad.Tienen que ser guzados en el mundo, aquí y ahora.Los apóstatas seremos guzados delante de Dios.prefieroser una apóstata que una sicópata,un beso desde España
Yo me di cuenta quenlo mejor es perdonar y concentrarse en ayudar a los que quieren ver la verdad porque muchos prefieren vivir en la mentira y estos psicopatas son necesarios para ellos. (Mt 7:1) un abrazo de un ex ministerial argentino
@@LuisGustavo-pm2pp ningún testigo es sicópata,a ellos hay que ayudarlos. Los sicópatas y pedófilos buscan poder,y que todos callen A Dios lo que es de Dios y al Cesar lo que es del Cesar.Todad las sectas están dirigidas por sicópatas..todaaaas
@@mirandagomez1319 correcto totalmente de acuerdo pero no lo tomo como una cruzada personal que la justicia se encargue y si no lo dejo en manos de Dios la vida es corta y todos estaremos de pie frente a el. Un abrazo
Grew up with my JW mom, I stopped being a JW around 12 y/o, my mom was fine with it as she wanted me to be do what I wanted and think myself, she a amazing person but I would not go back to the religion, feel it given me insight into the bible so thats nice I guess, even if Im not religious, feel very strong mentally after what I was going through in my mind though I feel like...
I also endured abuse from my ex-jw husband also. It is so important that people are aloud to receive therapy and counseling for regular human scycological problems. The society discourages it saying the bible is all we need. Well the bible seems to document a history of abuse itself. It is clear men of the bible times wanted a lot of control over their wives and children. Those areas on the biblical map still have very low views of women. Jesus was the only man who seemed to respect a womens thoughts and treated each one equally important. What kind of example do husbands really have to go on except other abusive men. The bible doesn't get down to the why are thinking is so screwed up in the first place and most young people don't know what real love is. They just teach man take care of wife , govern her and woman submit. It's the aquivilant to Warren Jeffs telling the FLDS women to keep sweet even though they are being sexually or physically abused which by the way are the REAL gross sins they need to be concerned about.
I was raised by a single mom. She was baptized when I was 5. My dad never was baptized although he did study occasionally and he wasn't in our lives much because of his alcoholism. Mostly he didn't live with us. So, I didn't see much of the abuse that you experienced. I never noticed a difference between how Jehovah's witnesses acted at home compared to at the meetings. But I suppose it could occur.
For anyone trying to understand what happened to them in this group, look up narcissistic abuse. You will find so much correlation between the org and this type of abuse. Also, for healing, look up PTSD and recovery for that. ♥️
Absolutely! we had cut off the part where I am a Mindset Specialist for Sports & Entertainment and teach Neuroscience, reprogramming the subconscious mind, etc, which yes! excellent for PTSD. So many I find that leave still experience depression and lack of focus on inspiring goals.
I grew up jw raised by my grandmother but I never got baptized and I can relate to what she us saying. plus the elders, sisters and the circuit overseer discouraged me from going to college. by 21 I moved out and I wasn't interested in following up with the religion. I went to college and 30yrs later no end of the world
I have seen this first hand! Because of the upbringing that worldly people do crazy things jw kids get messed up and end up doing these things especially when they leave
Please check out the full length feature film APOSTASY Directed by a former JW Daniel Kokotajlo from the U.K. (Google it for more info and watch the trailer)
Dang small towns! Good luck as a witness trying to have a normal quiet private life in a small town never mind any town you can't even burp or flinch without someone getting word of it. Constant flack over anything, even trivial. Wedge you in here, then wedge you in there. Wedged out of life. No room for movement. No allowance for mistakes for transitioning oneself.Your entire emotional development severed from being hammered on, stripped, deprived and hemmed to pieces. from being constantly scrutinized and dissected from the inside out and outside in, Then the constant emotional neglect. Forced to withdraw inside because there is nobody you can share the horror with who won't dismiss, deny, deflect or go around any issue or concern or struggle you have without being played the fool or made to look stupid, then having to just forever bottle things up. Always left to deal with life and any struggle, want or need, completely alone while they just send you off to a tiny little corner to just pray more and look at you like your some burden that should fit to their cookie cutter approach. As if you come with an on/off switch. No wonder people feel sick. You don't realize until later in life the coercion or roping now becomes this enormously insurmountable pressure you can't even bear or even bear to process at first going in even as a child. Years later the pressure just compounds trying to please all the time, having to be something infallible. You carry that pressure to the Kingdom Hall and carry it right back home with you. You carry it when you go to bed and when you wake up. That's quite the tall order to fill with having to walk around like you can't feel human. All the extreme measures you must constantly meet without your knowledge of all the "funny" terms. Left with blinders on all the time. Trying to comply with stuff you don't even understand that are never spelled out to you. Always decided for and spoken for as if I have no voice to speak for myself. They speak for me and even for God! You feel constantly punished to know and understand what you don't clearly even know or understand. You feel patronized almost pestered at first then it feels more like outright invasion of privacy like someone badgering you. You often feel overwhelmed with guilt almost everyday even if you haven't done something wrong that leaves you with a complex. Worse once you have made a mistake, then the guilt stays with you every waking minute. Marginalized for all time. Cast off. It wouldn't matter if disfellowshipped or not. Your still treated as an outsider if you dare slip up. Further segregated and confined from what only community you only know, Your left feeling robbed and enslaved of your own life. A life that's given away to someone else to confine. To further barricade. Denied of your life you never got to live. Cheated.. Like someone took away your life and now have given it away to someone else who doesn't even do a thing for you, nor stand by you to even help you through anything besides just dropping in now and then, parroting scripture as Matthew 5:47 and James 2:14-17 or Proverbs 3:27 says. They feel that syncronizing their lip movements to scripture or offering some canned form of religious pep talk or other sugar coat, is enough, rather than actually embracing, feeling, and easing and acknowledging your pain or suffering. Apparently Jesus saying to weep with those who weep doesn't fit the Stoic or this draconian culture here or something.. I have never seen one elder cry while I was in tears. To the contrary fellow feeling they say they "have", they leave you flat on your face alone and empty handed, and turn a deaf ear and blind eye to anything you tried to wholeheartedly convey. If something goes wrong in your life, you are quickly sized up and scrutinized to death, second guessed, interrogated, brow -beaten, punished, and blamed imputing bad motives in any instance. It wouldn't matter what it was or what you said, your character is always questioned. Predetermined and Manhandled. Then derailed out of any position you took. Even if you told the truth. You are discredited and invalidated and spoken against and spoken for without anyone to rise to your defence or without any alibis. Quite the kangaroo court. It's like being conned. Having to lie to yourself. Then the painful reminders put over your head for all time, the deeply entrenched humiliation of having to never peep or be on tippy toes walking in constant egg shells so as to not disappoint again. The constant sea-saw battle of being at their mercy to be good enough for God. To never displease. Never fail. Then constant disdain and rebuke. The flack over and over for all time. Being strung up constantly. The lack of respect for your dignity never mind the embarrassment your made to feel to yourself and to others. The ostracism dare you flinch and happened to make a wrong turn, or simply happened to go through a rough patch trying to find yourself, dare you were human, then you fall and now viewed as inhuman. You are the devil for making mistakes even without bad intentions. It's more about policy and image than it is about humanity. They cut you no slack for anything. You can't ever make mistakes. How do you learn if you don't make mistakes? Even James 3:2 says if you didn't you would be perfect. So why do they contradict the words found in James? If that wasn't bad enough, then there is ZERO privacy or respect for ones dignity. Your life becomes a theatrical spectacle. A public display. They hang you on a pole for others to see. Everything is out in the open. You have to be some gladiator or spiritual icon or your nobody.. Then you got the alter-egos of two-faced high society folk walking around as puppeteers trying to keep up their appearance and hold you up to their own expectations as their puppet,, then the showboating and strutting their stuff you must keep up to. Or the constant pretending, the false fronts, people just going through the motions keeping up their appearance out of fear, putting on one skin for their favourites in the lime light, then will do a complete polar opposite switch a round by putting on a nasty skin with the ones that don't fit into their supreme idealistic likeness. Yes, they are very cagey quirky and controlling and manipulative and coercive. It's more about how you look than how you really are. It's about being seen doing the right thing than actually DOING the right thing you are measured by. It's just showcasing yourself to others for some glamour show. This manipulative controlling resistant air is a repellent. It will completely repel, shut down, and suppress people emotionally. How can anyone not feel uneasy, angry, and feel restlessly suppressed and emotionally strung out and just deflated? The unease causes DIS-ease. Most people vulnerable are already fragile, especially when starting out as children while they are still developing and discovering themselves. They leave you in constant tail spin in dread and doom dare you mess up. They alter or distort your entire life by underhandedly attacking you with morbid preconceptions that attack your good character, and try to make up some worst version of yourself while drumming up random pigeon holed allegations before they even know who you are, or without even standing in your shoes. They never allow you to find out who you are while still trying to discover yourself. You can't fail or have any learning curve. You have to be fail proof at all times so their nice shiny image isn't smeared. And if you make them look bad, they are more worried about how you appear than your suffering or voids even if you are at a crossroads and are challenged in anyway trying obtain a need in your life or fill a void.. They would rather smear your name instead to scapegoat the situation than have their image tarnished, silence you, shut you up, so you don't look bad in anyone. More worried about administering policy than nurturing people than ever standing by someone through their suffering. Reaping that narcissistic uptight overbearing domineering pompous arrogance and self righteousness would put anyone in an early grave. The neurotic narcissistic bullying of impounded idealistic and unrealistic expectations and measurements that get etched into your mind leaving you then with an inferiority complex feeling completely browbeaten, stone walled, and never feeling enough even from childhood then reap the psychological consequences such as PTSD or Stockholm syndrome for some. What child is ready to deal with that early on in life or has the emotional capacity to bear up or handle the negative impact of all the adverse repercussions later in life? They put further strain onto the strain that is already there. You can never unwind from everything building up. There is no where for anything to go. It's just swept under the carpet. There is nobody to pull you out to even help you through when feeling so entangled and imprisoned. From being so trapped. Nothing can go wrong. They make no allowances for mistakes or for change. How do you transition as a child when not even developed yet when controlled with so much fear and doom and gloom. How could anyone have a high self esteem? Even that damaged development lingering on into one's teen years and well into adult life, You feel like your in a cocoon and suppose to just pop out at random. Nothing can go wrong and anything that does goes wrong, they immediately make you into some devil or perpetrator. To the contrary of what they tout, they simply expect more from you than they do of themselves. Your expected to just get everything all at once FOR them. Come full circle in a second. Every JW might as well live in Hollywood. Cause there they have to put on a good face too. They have to act and pretend to be something they aren't. They have to be always on. Look good 100% of the time.
@Steve, can you come back on your comment and edit it to split it up. That huge block of words is impossible to read. Split it up like every 5 or 6 lines.
wow lmaooooo yessss thank you for sharing! Sums it up! I don't give them power anymore. I'm too happy to be out and creating the NOW and pursuing my Music Career and also a Mindset Specialist. I hope everyone creates some big dreams and goes to get them. Never too late xo
We all completely understand the two sides to Witnesses thing. Not that I am trying to boast, and believe me, what I am going to tell, did not serve me, or my family much good. At the meetings, I would give these insightful answers from the scriptures, and in real context. Usually from scripture that we as Witnesses, would not use in the meetings or in service. I would prove valid points. At the end of the meetings, I would be complemented on my insightful answers and use of scripture. But, when it came time to say, go out in service, I would love trying to talk about actually scripture in context. Every, single, time, I would be shut down with, "the org this and that. Or, "The society and Watchtower says this or that". I would get the same thing when getting together with "friends" on a personal level. The org, had a strong hold on them, and even me to a degree. How could it not. After all, we are all human, and subject to social reconstruction. Mind control if you will. One thing though, no one would ever reach out to me to hang out. It was always me reaching for them. And the one person that did reach out to me, he always wanted me to do him little favors here and there. I didn't mind so much. But, when it came to talking about scripture, forget it. He would like a robot, say how thankful he was for Jehovah's organization. Not how thankful he was for The Fathers Son. You know, the one who wss tortured, beaten and died for him. Instead, we are all somehow supposed to be thankful for men who take our money, and live real comfortable on it, and pay sexual abuse lawsuits with it. And tell us that if we do not agree with their "uninspired" teachings and predictions, that we are not faithful to God. Somehow, my "brother" and "friend" felt the need to turn me in when I discussed with him the societies dealings and non scriptural teachings. You know? As much as all religions like say, the Catholic Church is guilty for their gross dealings with children, they at least eventually were able to admit their wrong doings. Granted, it took force. And, they admitted that they were wrong on some scriptural teachings. But, the governing body? The org? The society? Nope, it's all hide, attempt to get rid of literature, misdirect people, and tell all that, like rapunzel, the outsiders are all bad and under Satan's control. When in fact, the people on the outside are not all bad. Fact is, some of them are more Christ like in comparison to some of the brothers and sisters. And especially, the .org. I could go on forever. But, I have ranted enough. Thank you for this interview like the others. P.S. I did forget to mention why I believe people did not want to hang with my family and me. I was always truthful about who I was a and who I wanted to be. I never hid from anyone, anything about me. Instead, I would use it as a platform to help others to open up about them selves. So that they also could move forward with their metamorphosis. But, all I would ever get from anyone was, "you are so brave for sharing you with us" And that they wish that they could be more like that. Truthfully? One can never change for the better unless they are willing to open up about who they are and the things they do. If you just hide away the real you behind some facade, you do no favors to your self, or anyone else. It was the only way I was able to grow into who I am now. Am I perfect? Heck No! I am only getting better. Granted, very depressed because I have no human friends any more.
I left the Cult Religion since May 2016. Used to be a pioneer. Before I left; two years before leaving I was having serious doubt, I used to hand in fake field service time. As of January 2019; I feel closer to the Most High God. No need for religion. You can get close to God of heaven and earth without a Religion.
The Gospel of St Thomas was left out of the bible because it emphasized that religion should not be made with bricks and wood but be inside you. Of course the pope and Roman senate did not want that in the bible as the catholic church was gaining world power.
I am a Recording Artist & Mindset Specialist for the Sports & Entertainment Industry! I teach Neuroscience & reprogramming the Sub-conscience Mind. There are many incredible self-sustaining techniques to help and I'd be happy to help. My social media is AJ WIRTH - send through a message on Instagram, FB, or LinkedIN
Question no.3 at the baptism talk needs to be: "do you understand that you can never leave, if you choose to leave or removed against your will by the elders all of your family will view you as dead?"
Good to see you back doing videos again, this is a great interview
Hi Fifth, I missed your face! As always great video, great interview. Keep them coming
What an articulate intelligent person. Can relate to her life.
Thank you for sharing your story. The more of us that share our experiences of the real deal will awaken many still in and more importantly alerting others! Everything that you've said, I concur 100%!
thanks Love!
Living one's life based on the Bible with its very definite and terrifying Apocalyptic message is a very unhealthy and traumatizing way to raise a child, leaving lasting negative effects.
So glad to have left that all behind and have been able to heal and find healing and true peace.
thank you :)
I shouldn’t have listened to this while driving it was making me angry. Don’t get me wrong I appreciate that you told the story just the crap you went through and hearing these stories makes me feel better about leaving myself and how I’m not gonna be a puppet of the organization anymore.
I have been on Effexor XR for depression when dealing with mental gymnastic and seeing the truth overtime was not adding up trying to convenience myself to stay in when I really wanted out 5 years ago and Cambia for constant debilitating migraines at least 3 times a week for most of my life. I left the cult 2 months ago and I'm off the medication a 8 months now and magically my migraines have disappeared for 2 months straight and counting only after leaving the cult??. What Alisha said about your body breaking down is absolutely true. How many people in the world probably don't realize the negativity we take on and accept is really causing our mind and bodies to break down.
Absolutely! Sorry to hear but happy you've left. If people truly understood the Science, Neuroscience, and mind & body connection behind their sickness, they'd be shocked. SOOOOO many young sisters were on antidepressants, and through pregnancies, and overweight from depression, creating yet another vicious cycle of health problems. Every emotional response has a physical result.
@@ajwirth8291 Thanks, beautiful voice btw. Subscribed.
P.s. check out thewonders.com or their free podcasts and videos on youtube I think you will connect deeply with it. I did.
thank you :) @@triuvm
I just discovered your channel as well as lloyd evans, JT and Lady Cee, and many others so listening to all your channels has helped me in so many ways. I left when I was 17 in the 90's and never looked back and never spoke to another jw again but in 2022 I accidentally came across a ex jw channel and it opened my eyes and didn't realize that I had closure with a ton of bullshit I dealt with back in the day and never finished or flushed down the toilet then after watching I started understanding things I never understood and it finally made sense and I realize I felt jipped in life and now I wish I could go back and fix it and never be apart of it but that ship sailed to listening to all these stories and experiences has some how calmed me down and educated me with all of you guys and your great channels. Thank You. Trust me...listening to all of these stories really helps. It really does even for me 30 years later with backed up feelings that I can now diffuse and feel good mentally only because I never understood certain ways of the watchtower. Thanks. A++++
I LOVE your channel... Thank you x
It's funny how they say that all witnesses are taught the same thing, but the differences between what is acceptable in one place versus another is crazy to me. I was raised in a city and we could go to concerts or other activities whereas friends from smaller towns would be counseled if they did that. I've never heard of people getting counseled for going to therapy. I went myself, and lots of other witnesses I knew went as well. We weren't advised to DO it of course, but certainly weren't advised NOT to.
Great interview, I admire your courage and clarity. It’s clear from the comments that your story resinates with many, but that’s why sharing is so important, it builds up, encourages and brings awareness.
I know you’ve done a lot of work on yourself to get to this place, so I encourage everyone to dig deeper too, and not just focus on the pain of your past, but on the fruitfulness of you future. Advice I will take myself, but if only to possess the courage you have.
You are a great speaker and I know you can sing too (beautiful voice), I’m sure your proud of yourself as we all are of you too!
Thank you for that hun
“You don’t go for outside teachings, you just pray, stay faithful, and just live in suffering” 🤐.
Great interview Fifth 👍🏽
I can remember in the mid-eighties a circuit overseer (I do not dignify them with a capital letter) stressing, as they always do, the urgency of the ministry by saying "Everyone in this area who is not in this kingdom hall is going to die very shortly at Armagedon." Not only do you believe you are saving people, you are emotionally blackmailed by the implication that their eternal life depends on how active and successful your ministry is.
Hey, that’s my trick of no capital letters, LOL!
Rock on! @@exjwconfessions
co =circus oversneer and the wife is a cow just a thought
totally @@Michael19585
Great interview. She grew up in a small town in Canada, and I grew up in New York City. And even though it sounds like our experiences would be a lot different, she and I grew up with mostly the same way of life in this so called “organization”. Since there’s so much control within this cult, I think it’s very much of a cookie cutter experience with regard to the stress and the mind manipulation inflicted upon its members. Congratulations on fleeing this destructive cult!
yeppers lol Thanks
How they brainwashed us to think that pioneering is a privilege. I never felt that it was; it was hard, arduous work. Yet, watchtower brainwashed to think that it was a privilege.
They use the word “privilege” very loosely. Giving talks, commenting at meetings, cleaning the KH, shoveling the snow, cutting the grass, etc. are all “privileges” to them. Oh yeah, and I’m sure donating money to help pay for the child molestation lawsuits is a “privilege”. Oh wait, I guess that’s really money for the World-Wide work. Yeah right! 😂
@@groovy9125 So True ..like the saying goes so long the Left Hand ( JW Members ) Don't know what the Right Hand (GB) is doing !!! 🤣
Fifth, I really like the fact you give the guests lots of room to talk, ask a good range of questions, and take the whole thing very seriously.
Excellent interview 5th. Appreciate how you allow it to 'be about them' and not interrupting. New on the scene.
gataheart welcome! And thank you
Thank you for sharing your story!
Hi Fifth and Alicia : Just finished watching this interview . We live in Ont also , I remember hearing about what you talked about , as I was an elder at the time . Your area was known in Southern Ontario because of the youth . I was an elder for 20 yrs , we just got DF'd three weeks ago for apostasy . They won't let you just walk away . We hadn't been at a meeting for six yrs .Just saw too much that went against the Bible . My family was also well know in the org. here . My Grandfather actually had Russel visit their home early on . A long history as a JW. But don't miss the lies and Hippocrates that are there . Thanks for sharing , we find it interesting hearing others experiences .
Your name sounds familiar. They df'ed you now?? 6 years later?? You know what's weird...I disassociated and my father in law in Congregation and I hand delivered to Georgetown Bethal and they STILL DIDN'T ANNOUNCE IT! I post so much expression on social media-perhaps they worry of me suing? They have reprimanded sisters in my hall as they "saw" they had liked my posts and told them to stop following me or it wouldn't affect their marriage and husbands privileges. I only writing empowering, inspiring posts - I don't play victim card, they want that!
@@ajwirth8291 Hi I have a cousin that lives in Wasaga .I read other posts and saw that's where your from . There's Hershey's in Barrie also . What was you maiden name .? We're in our 60s my parents where friends with bethel higher ups . We had a daughter-in-law in one of the dramas last summer to our shock . Let's keep in touch. If you want
Maiden Name Hutchings. Grandparents Tom & Gertie Andros. Aunt & Uncle in Bethal over 40 years till they got asked to leave- Pat & Tammy Novak@@blainemh
@@ajwirth8291 I know them all . I likely know you mom also
@@ajwirth8291 I am just interested to know why after 6 years they df'd you? I faded about 4 years ago, was 3'rd generation. Milton Henschel used to visit my grandparents in the South. I am still afraid of getting Df'd even though I don't do anything worthy of destruction that I know of. lol I have family that are still in, and are very curious about me leaving. I just don't talk about it.
My man Cliff! Chipping away! Good work homie. Exdub love to you both.
EXJW BIKER hey thanks man! Nice to hear from you Micah
Thanks Love xo
IM EX WATCHTOWER MEMBER . I FINALLY WOKE UP 2 WEEKS AGO ... I WATCH YOUR VIDEOS AND BEROEAN PICKETS VIDEOS AND DID MY OWN RESEARCH ... 😱.......I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE MY STORY .
Thank you Alisha, you've helped me to confirm that there's alot of sexual harassment within the organization because women are 2nd class citizens. Those who are ministerial servants, elders and coordinators are the worst perpetrators. For years I've had what anyone in "the world" would call sexual harassment but whenever I mentioned it to anyone in the JW organization I was either accused of over analyzing things or of instigating the situation. Even a coordinator did actually sexually harassed me inside the kingdom hall but I'm a nobody and he is the coordinator. Enough said.
Oh caramba, cuánta gente saliendo de allí.
Nunca se había visto en la historia tanta deserción.
Another excellent interview, thank you for sharing!
They blame the victim no matter who you are. They are looking to put guilt on everyone.
crowbird213 especially true for females
Not really, everyone.
You are absolutely right. Everyone gets blamed. If you’re given (forced into) a role, it will be abused.
Awesome video! Mind blowing! Thankyou! I found this very healing.
Fifth and Alisha - wow! Thank you so very, very much for this inspiring interview.
Alisha, thank you in particular for the courage to speak up in such a powerful way about the impact of JW teachings and policies on women. You describe many harrowing situations in such a clear-minded way - and what comes through is your quest for “the truth” beyond patriarchal rules and damaging attitudes. Your story reflects an individual who has been through so very much of a traumatic nature - yet you’ve emerged a strong, resilient woman who is an inspiration.
You’re right: the literature warns about how badly people will do when they leave the organization but you are a powerful - and absolutely necessary - example of someone who has triumphed over trauma.
Thank you again Fifth for your sensitive handling of very complex and traumatic accounts that are threaded through with a definite recovery focus. I am truly moved and I know so many others will be too! Warmly, Rody Withers, New Zealand.
Thanks Love. I BARELY scratched the surface about women! My girlfriend and I will be doing a video together and it will be HILARIOUS .... IT'S much needed!!
I remember when I was younger they would tell us stories that everyone who leaves the organization hits a terrible rock bottom. They all had a horrible life after leaving. I would sit and contemplate what would be my rock bottom? Would I have at least a few years of happiness before I had to come crawling back from the gutter? Not only did I never hit rock bottom, but my life got better and I found out what true happiness is.
LOLOL Right!! .....Those Watchtower pics of ppl homeless, drug addicted, prostituting lmaoooo terrible
I can't even describe the feeling I had when I officially left. I was born into the cult and the feeling had to be very similar to someone that gets out of prison after serving 20 years. It was the best thing I ever did for myself and never regretted it once. Freedom is not a strong enough word to describe it.
Excellent video! She hit it on the nail about the WT's harsh control and rigid disciplines. They smother your potentials and discourage any and all self awareness. The panic and fear the WT stokes as well as their sadistic expectations for youth is inhumane and unscriptural. So glad she's free!
Very, very good point what Alisha said about those JW kids ending up attracting a life of extreme lows because that's what they believe, because of the brainwashing of the watchtower. Because of my coaching background not only do I agree with that, but I know this to be a fact.
LivingNow yes, that self destruct button they install on people in order to fulfill their own prophesies. Sickening how twisted it is!
Absolutely - we become what we think-scientific facts
Cliff I missed your videos ... glad to see you’re doing well
Wow!! Amazing story and just confirms how it’s all about image!! This organization is about how they look and don’t care how they make you feel. Thank you for sharing ❤️💪
exactly!
Very true. They always so protect the organization at all cost. Not the people, not the elderly, but protect the business.
Yup same kind of stories thank you for speaking out. God bless you!
Thank you both for your interview. Great work. Keep it coming. You are helping many to wake up and decode, including myself. x
xo
So glad you are Free and doing what you love! Thank you for sharing. All the best to you!!!!
She is a wonderful person - thank you so much for the interview 😘😘😘❣️
xoxo
Hope the best for you. You have made me remember. They have distorted many family’s lives. So sad
I always feel sad to hear fellow witnesses having difficulties with JW Org and or other witnesses...I am shocked to hear what stressful things some are dealing with... Most or all of their complaints are warranted...I and my two adult children have not had unpleasant experiences worth speaking of...Wish I could suggest something to help...Some would say rely on Jehovah...I strongly feel we ourselves are mostly responsible to search for solutions to our problems, the scriptures are often helpful as well as a fellow witnesses...Be very careful in choosing who to talk to...
Such a familiar story
...glad she is free now
xoxo
Another great interview cliff. Thanks for doing them, the def help to not feel so alone.
All the integration they do to the friends is almost criminal. But when they on the stand in court. They lie and mislead and feel like they dont have to tell the truth. Ain't that a twist.
Enjoy your programs. You are a excellent interviewer.
I'm happy you have found TTATT, thank you for sharing your story.
Hi, I’m wondering if you ever told your mother and was it reported to the authorities?
Amazing interview!
Thank you! Keep Smiling!
Wow, Wow!It's been a while ... seemingly Fifth! Happy New Year! Thanks for the new video. Thank you too Alisha for sharing how hard it is to be a Witness, especially a pioneer and exposing how much we had to put on a front to appear that we were in step with the Organisation
wannabe freespirit hey thanks! Nice to be back. Happy new year to you as well!
Thank you! Keep smiling
You're really collected and well spoken, congratulations on your progress in life, your growth and the clarity you have found. When I see both of you, side by side, by heart shines with pride!
MY EXPERIENCE
I love when more former Witnesses come together united adding to the new family. I know your outcry, pain, mental disparity, etc. I been baptized since June 3rd, 2012 and studying little before that. I progress fast through the " Bible teach book" publication when it was in yellow lol then progress quickly through the " Remain in God's Love" publication both within a month in a half cause I studied with my Bible teacher daily for hours. Soon qualified for my baptism at a " Special Day Assembly."
I gave many public talks, I held the microphones in the congregation meetings, I participated in the cleaning of the Kingdom Halls, I was getting more hours than what's required for regular pioneers in field service ministry .
I made many friends and even brought in some I knew from " the world." I grew an enormous love for the supposed " truth " and for Jah .
I traveled to New York driving the entire way with a group that invited me and saw all 3 "Bethel facilities ." There I saw the headquarters of the Governing Body and my connections help me see rooms and more than what they actually are to give in these tours. I have many pictures of this experience.
Traveling all throughout the country for this religion doing everything u can imagine. Yet....
I started getting extremely depressed cause the more I elevated myself...the more I was exposed to seeing which was so disturbing even heart breaking in many respects.
I notice how so many in the religion idolize man . How? Ever notice that when " Special Guest" appear now suddenly everyone comes to the Kingdom Hall Meeting and all now dress up in expensive suits with bow ties to go out in field service? All cause maybe the " Traveling Overseer " is there which was so fake to me. They call it " hospitality...yet it was idolizing cause everyone competing to get his attention. To knock on doors with him, to go out to eat with him, to talk to him first after his talks, and everyone is acting like extra than usual. Once he leaves its back to the opposite.
I also noticed that ones that come out the " world " get treated a little differently than the ones who grew up in the religion. Like in meetings...they're hands get picked first over yours. They get invited everywhere more than u. Many didnt work with me just my teacher most times daily. Times where my hand was literally ignored while sitting up front like wow!
Elders always get called the most over all and their wives then kids. It's like levels to this of favoritism. Being related to special men can get u greater protection too from wrongdoing than average ones.
Steady observing...I saw how much godly devotion, praise , and worship didnt go to " Jehovah God." It all went to the " Governing Body."
The supposed "annointed" men who are the Elites over the entire faith of Jehovah's Witnesses worldwide. They are the men elevated to God like status. Can't question them or you'll be in big trouble.
So I researched more , prayed, read Bible, and the more I began to look outside of our bias websites JW.org, or the JW broadcast, the Watchtower society's literature, etc I saw the truth about " the truth."
Examples are as follows:
The over 5 thousand child sex abuse cases aired live on the news where the Governing Body had to speak in front of the Australian government cause their system based off misinterpretation of scripture paved the easy way of molesting children.
* The unexpected affair the Society had with the United Nations whom we call the Beast in Revelation that replaced the " death stroked " one . Once confronted and exposed they ended the partnership to save face quickly doing damage control sending many letters and magazines to the members smh they bought it of course.
*How we quickly ban anything pagan as unacceptable to Jehovah God like Holidays, birthdays. Etc. Yet I research roots to weddings and saw that wedding " rings" are pagan customs with ritualistic beliefs to why u wear them..also the " wedding cake" and wind chimes are tied to pagan symbolism. Etc. Yet we're allowed to imitate them. I thought if its pagan stay away...yet the Governing Body can do anything even contradict themselves and the masses in the religion blindly follows and defends.
* All the false prophecies which the Bible strongly condemns yet our Organization gave more dates of the end of the world....than just 1914. Every prophecy failed of course cause God isn't with them. So once it dont happen they tweak their words and update it to make excuses. The blind brainwashed followers excuse it and say " No they wasn't wrong, The Light was just dim not its getting Brighter. " lol Sadd
The Organization back in the day actually practiced discrimination toward African Americans especially seen evident when " Rutherford " was the man in charge. Read all his letters.
* The supposed founder of Jehovah's Witnesses Charles Taze Russel was actually a "Freemason ." That's why the earliest additions of the Watchtower magazines had the satanic symbol called " the Knights Templar " symbol seen in Satanic churches to praise the Devil.
The " Knights Templar symbol " can also be found in honor of him after his death. Look up his burial grave site..you'll see a giant monument idol of a Masonic pyramid with the same satanic logo the Knights Templar symbol on it. Pyramids, all seeing eye of Horus, Knights Templar symbol, saturn rings worship...all used to praise not God but Satan the Devil. How disappointing yet many excuse or dont even believe it cause they are brainwashed by the cult dominated by man not Jah.
*The Governing Body had stocks in companies that made cigarettes and war planes like Lockey Martin , Boeing etc.
*Disfellowshiping! This is over exaggerated and misinterpreted from the Scriptures. God never supported flat out shunning cause it wasn't an effective tool to bringing sheep back. They use Paul words about removing a man or not eating with him etc. Or Prodigal Son. Both examples contradict shunning I'll soon make video of. This practice is user by cults when u question their leaders not really God. It's used as a fear tactic after you're baptized. Listen to whatever we say or lose your family, friends, mates, everything u know . Shunning is evil , ungodly, founded by cults, and even Satanist do the same thing . Their exist over 30 scriptures contradicting the practice of shunning. Read your Bible .
*Beards? If u have a beard you're not doing anything in relation to Jehovah's Witnesses. No scripture forbids it yet they use " you look like a hippie" as their sole basis.lol All in Biblical times had beards even Christ yet we cant preach if beard is present etc.
* Field Service report card.
This is your hours, minutes , books, magazine placements, video showings, return visits, etc. when knocking on doors. Turn in every month. You're graded by men and must participate or you will lose privileges and be seen as non spiritual. They grade u observing u closely . Jesus exposes this practice in Matthew 6. Read it entirely.
This religion isnt the truth . It's dominated by brainwashing methods and complete worship goes to the Governing Body yet they keep telling themselves no it's for " Jehovah. "
I'm speaking out after 8years. Jehovah God isn't the issue...nor the brainwashed Witnesses...its the Governing Body more so who replaced Jah and Jesus ....and put the system in place that made all these sheeple into brainwash zombies. Ex witnesses arent evil apostates or bad people. They woke up and still love all their love ones trapped in the cult. Ex JWs not lost , they're better off. Wake up and stop judging . Love and truth always win not cults founded by Satan.
lmao...sheep into brainwashed zombies!!..simply put! lol
Amazing how protective we are over Almighty God- all powerful. We almost take a maternal or protective quality toward God.
if its life saving message and so important that life depends on getting the message ~~~~##but surely its finally up to God who lives and dies ~~~##there will always be millions of people who don`t receive the Jehovahs Witness interpretation
+ExJW Fifth Praise the LORD thank you for your ministry, brother Cliff. i was never a jw, but i am learning so much from your RUclips videos. God bless. Agape love
👋👋 me too! grew up in an alcoholic home and delt with violence with the brother's and within my home. I have done a short video on this as well. Bravo thank you for sharing.
Im ex-jw, my gf a muslim, my dad and mom respect my choise of leaving all though my dad can ask me questions and make me want to reconsider studying the bible again. My dad come to term with my gf being a muslim and Im never ever going into any organized religion again. I am keeping my open mind, also looked into the quran as I like researching things like I did with my own religion growing up, find problems there are similar to the ones from stories I hear from other jws, ideology wise. Btw, my dad bipolar, my big brother left the jws, started using drugs and killed himself when I was a child and my sister also left the jws but she was before married to a jw man as she was still a jw. Been a wild ride. 20 now and Im feeling pretty great somehow.
wow so sorry to hear. Stay strong and know that even if you choose to live by Bible, there is no Organized religion whatsoever that has a right to control your life. There are so many many amazing opportunities that lay ahead for anyone - regardless of age! Seek to associate with successful driven people with "like" values. Keep smiling
Hey Fifth! So I've checked out your channel after my subscribers mentioning that you were at the top of their lists of EXJW community channels. After watching I see why! I wish I would've viewed before I made my top channel videos, I would have liked to included yours. When I do another one I will surely be adding you to the list! Great job on the Leah Remini special also. Take care!
Ex JW Kid hey bro thanks a lot I’ve seen some of your work as well I appreciate what you do!
@@exjwfifth9838 You have? Wow that's great thank you very much! I look forward to you future videos!
Ex JW Kid yeah man Jay the Comedian mentioned you and I’m a big fan of him, so I checked you out. I like the recap you did of the Leah Remini episode. Keep it up!
good job cliff! i'm ending an e-mail with my own history for you.
thank you fith great video and also thank you Alisha for charing your story whao what a story I'm sure this will help alot of people to realize that this is what it cost to be a jw .
thanks Love!
Very nice. Very intellectual. Thanks so much. Always happy for someone who breaks away.
My dad wouldn't get me any outside help because once he knew someone who went to a therapist and was told he needed to have sex, so he wouldn't take me to one. That was disappointing. I have gone to a therapist since and it was immensely helpful!
Did you eventually get sex?
Suggestion to the ex-pioneer sister...you still refer to the JW religion as the "truth"...yes, that is the term we used, but now that we have left, and researched the teachings and history, should we still refer to it when talking to others as the "truth"? Ray Franz brought this to my attention, and kindly passing such food for thought to you..
Thank you for sharing your experience...brotherly love, best wishes.
Yes, I don't say. Don't allow children to either. Speech is powerful for mind programming and as I teach this, my awareness is high. In this discussion setting I used as some still may be on fence. I refrained from MANY FACTS LOL
you guys are playing semantics, just like our jw gb overlords
“Should we still refer to it when talking to others as the truth?” The irony is you sound like a condemning watchtower.
Allan U the “truth”about the lie
Hi AJ,
You said you teach neuroscience. Do you have any professional certifications?
See LinkedIn under AJ WIRTH.Send message along with request :)
@AJ WIRTH, thanks for your time and story! Going to check out your other stuff! Great job!!
yay thanks. Most activity on Instagram & LinkedIN As AJ WIRTH
Thank you very much Fifth and Alicia for share your story. For me was very liberating to leave this religion, but my family still there☹️. JW stole my life I was very unhappy. I still have the trauma so many years of my life wasted😢
what it did was give you freedom to create new possibilities! Time is now, the present, and that's exciting you have your power back.
AJ WIRTH you are right. Thank you very much😊😘
Enjoyed this interview. Thank you very much. Alicia-thank you for sharing your voice. There has got to be a way for Watchtower to be penalized for treating underage children like this. Too say that it’s mental abuse is far to mild of a term.
Disfellowshipping and shunning takes away what the true Christian personality should be. It also wipes out the best of what we think of as Godly traits.
What an amazing story. It takes a lot of mental clarity to see the big picture while living in it, then to have the courage to step out of it, it seems your thinking ability is exceptional. I hope that you have the realization that you are now closer to God than you were before, God is love and freedom. This interview is also a fantastic demonstration of what a good interviewer is and does. You asked the right questions then listened to the answer!, you are a highly skilled interviewer. Thanks for all you do.
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Saludos desde España !! Sigue así, ayudas muchos con estos vídeos.
Cada vez somos más !!!
Saludos! Pronto voy a tratar de hacer los subtítulos en español para este video, gracias por su paciencia por mientras :-)
ya terminé los subtítulos!
Word for word we lived the same identical life. How ironic!
Wow I love her and her story! Does she have a RUclips channel???
Yes ma'am, :) All social media is AJ WIRTH. I am a Recording Artist & Mindset Specialist for the Sports & Entertainment Industry
AJ WIRTH I love your story girl! I’m so glad you got out!
Dr. tengo muy claro lo que es juzgar y criticar. pero como parece que no voy a ganar o empatar con usted, voy a hacer parco con esto... dejemos nuestra conversacion en este punto. De todos modos gracias por el info acerca de su conocimiento de la organizacion. me encanto! cuidese mucho y gracias .
Buenos vídeos. Sería excelente agregar subtítulos. Saludos
ya terminé los subtítulos
Nothing about living presently; that is why they don't do Charity-wait on God's kingdom where we will have plenty; meanwhile Watchtower is a 501c3 recipient. A government tax exemption they receive to do charity in the community.
Amazing story. I'm so glad you shared it.
thank you xoxo
Very true what she said about expectations and self fulfilling prophecies. A bunch of horrific or disgusting things keep being presented as very viable options for children early on. Having seen healthy families, normal kids don’t have that. They are simply not on the table as options, as they should not be. It’s seen as abusive by normal families.
What ever happened to her husband? Are they still married is he a witness the Ending lingers.
yes, sorry we were trying to wrap up quickly and there was so much to share. He stopped attending December 2017 and has no intention of ever returning. It's been a challenge as a JW man is still a JW man when you leave, as a woman is also, unless you educate yourself. Otherwise you'll never be an EQUAL TEAM....always just a woman beneath her husband. We had cut off some details of this because of timing, but my Father in law, an elder very close to our home, even saw Royal Commission etc but still choosing to carry those lies. He acts as if women should be seen and not heard. He physically lunged at me, yelling, and the furthest from "Christian" behaviour is what they having "running" their hall.
Los dirigentes de todas las sectas son sicópatas ,Pero eso no les exime de responsabilidad.Tienen que ser guzados en el mundo, aquí y ahora.Los apóstatas seremos guzados delante de Dios.prefieroser una apóstata que una sicópata,un beso desde España
Yo me di cuenta quenlo mejor es perdonar y concentrarse en ayudar a los que quieren ver la verdad porque muchos prefieren vivir en la mentira y estos psicopatas son necesarios para ellos. (Mt 7:1) un abrazo de un ex ministerial argentino
@@LuisGustavo-pm2pp ningún testigo es sicópata,a ellos hay que ayudarlos. Los sicópatas y pedófilos buscan poder,y que todos callen A Dios lo que es de Dios y al Cesar lo que es del Cesar.Todad las sectas están dirigidas por sicópatas..todaaaas
@@mirandagomez1319 correcto totalmente de acuerdo pero no lo tomo como una cruzada personal que la justicia se encargue y si no lo dejo en manos de Dios la vida es corta y todos estaremos de pie frente a el. Un abrazo
Grew up with my JW mom, I stopped being a JW around 12 y/o, my mom was fine with it as she wanted me to be do what I wanted and think myself, she a amazing person but I would not go back to the religion, feel it given me insight into the bible so thats nice I guess, even if Im not religious, feel very strong mentally after what I was going through in my mind though I feel like...
Por fin te miro de nuevo fifth 💙💜💛💚
As an ex JW, also 4th generation, I loved how Alicia mentioned the mind control and MKUltra aspect.
I loved the story of her journey.
I also endured abuse from my ex-jw husband also. It is so important that people are aloud to receive therapy and counseling for regular human scycological problems. The society discourages it saying the bible is all we need. Well the bible seems to document a history of abuse itself. It is clear men of the bible times wanted a lot of control over their wives and children. Those areas on the biblical map still have very low views of women. Jesus was the only man who seemed to respect a womens thoughts and treated each one equally important. What kind of example do husbands really have to go on except other abusive men. The bible doesn't get down to the why are thinking is so screwed up in the first place and most young people don't know what real love is. They just teach man take care of wife , govern her and woman submit. It's the aquivilant to Warren Jeffs telling the FLDS women to keep sweet even though they are being sexually or physically abused which by the way are the REAL gross sins they need to be concerned about.
Yes! All Patriarchal NONSENSE. Yes, women have a mind to use critical thinking and independently acquire success!
I was raised by a single mom. She was baptized when I was 5. My dad never was baptized although he did study occasionally and he wasn't in our lives much because of his alcoholism. Mostly he didn't live with us. So, I didn't see much of the abuse that you experienced. I never noticed a difference between how Jehovah's witnesses acted at home compared to at the meetings. But I suppose it could occur.
GREAT INTERVIEW, THANKS FOR SHARING
For anyone trying to understand what happened to them in this group, look up narcissistic abuse. You will find so much correlation between the org and this type of abuse. Also, for healing, look up PTSD and recovery for that. ♥️
Absolutely! we had cut off the part where I am a Mindset Specialist for Sports & Entertainment and teach Neuroscience, reprogramming the subconscious mind, etc, which yes! excellent for PTSD. So many I find that leave still experience depression and lack of focus on inspiring goals.
Hi AJ,
Do you have any professional certifications?
I married at 22 as a JW. I felt that was too old lol but now waking up from this I felt like I got married way too young.
most definitely :)
Married @27. That was too young for me. I was not mature.
I grew up jw raised by my grandmother but I never got baptized and I can relate to what she us saying. plus the elders, sisters and the circuit overseer discouraged me from going to college. by 21 I moved out and I wasn't interested in following up with the religion. I went to college and 30yrs later no end of the world
I have seen this first hand! Because of the upbringing that worldly people do crazy things jw kids get messed up and end up doing these things especially when they leave
So true!
Please check out the full length feature film APOSTASY
Directed by a former JW Daniel Kokotajlo from the U.K. (Google it for more info and watch the trailer)
That inspired me to write disassociation letter next day lol
Excellent Interview, she is amazing, I love her eloquency and bright mind 👏👏👏
Awww thank you! Appreciate that!
Great interview !!!
Dang small towns! Good luck as a witness trying to have a normal quiet private life in a small town never mind any town you can't even burp or flinch without someone getting word of it. Constant flack over anything, even trivial. Wedge you in here, then wedge you in there. Wedged out of life. No room for movement. No allowance for mistakes for transitioning oneself.Your entire emotional development severed from being hammered on, stripped, deprived and hemmed to pieces. from being constantly scrutinized and dissected from the inside out and outside in, Then the constant emotional neglect. Forced to withdraw inside because there is nobody you can share the horror with who won't dismiss, deny, deflect or go around any issue or concern or struggle you have without being played the fool or made to look stupid, then having to just forever bottle things up. Always left to deal with life and any struggle, want or need, completely alone while they just send you off to a tiny little corner to just pray more and look at you like your some burden that should fit to their cookie cutter approach. As if you come with an on/off switch. No wonder people feel sick. You don't realize until later in life the coercion or roping now becomes this enormously insurmountable pressure you can't even bear or even bear to process at first going in even as a child. Years later the pressure just compounds trying to please all the time, having to be something infallible. You carry that pressure to the Kingdom Hall and carry it right back home with you. You carry it when you go to bed and when you wake up. That's quite the tall order to fill with having to walk around like you can't feel human. All the extreme measures you must constantly meet without your knowledge of all the "funny" terms. Left with blinders on all the time. Trying to comply with stuff you don't even understand that are never spelled out to you. Always decided for and spoken for as if I have no voice to speak for myself. They speak for me and even for God! You feel constantly punished to know and understand what you don't clearly even know or understand. You feel patronized almost pestered at first then it feels more like outright invasion of privacy like someone badgering you. You often feel overwhelmed with guilt almost everyday even if you haven't done something wrong that leaves you with a complex. Worse once you have made a mistake, then the guilt stays with you every waking minute. Marginalized for all time. Cast off. It wouldn't matter if disfellowshipped or not. Your still treated as an outsider if you dare slip up. Further segregated and confined from what only community you only know, Your left feeling robbed and enslaved of your own life. A life that's given away to someone else to confine. To further barricade. Denied of your life you never got to live. Cheated.. Like someone took away your life and now have given it away to someone else who doesn't even do a thing for you, nor stand by you to even help you through anything besides just dropping in now and then, parroting scripture as Matthew 5:47 and James 2:14-17 or Proverbs 3:27 says. They feel that syncronizing their lip movements to scripture or offering some canned form of religious pep talk or other sugar coat, is enough, rather than actually embracing, feeling, and easing and acknowledging your pain or suffering. Apparently Jesus saying to weep with those who weep doesn't fit the Stoic or this draconian culture here or something.. I have never seen one elder cry while I was in tears. To the contrary fellow feeling they say they "have", they leave you flat on your face alone and empty handed, and turn a deaf ear and blind eye to anything you tried to wholeheartedly convey. If something goes wrong in your life, you are quickly sized up and scrutinized to death, second guessed, interrogated, brow -beaten, punished, and blamed imputing bad motives in any instance. It wouldn't matter what it was or what you said, your character is always questioned. Predetermined and Manhandled. Then derailed out of any position you took. Even if you told the truth. You are discredited and invalidated and spoken against and spoken for without anyone to rise to your defence or without any alibis. Quite the kangaroo court. It's like being conned. Having to lie to yourself. Then the painful reminders put over your head for all time, the deeply entrenched humiliation of having to never peep or be on tippy toes walking in constant egg shells so as to not disappoint again. The constant sea-saw battle of being at their mercy to be good enough for God. To never displease. Never fail. Then constant disdain and rebuke. The flack over and over for all time. Being strung up constantly. The lack of respect for your dignity never mind the embarrassment your made to feel to yourself and to others. The ostracism dare you flinch and happened to make a wrong turn, or simply happened to go through a rough patch trying to find yourself, dare you were human, then you fall and now viewed as inhuman. You are the devil for making mistakes even without bad intentions. It's more about policy and image than it is about humanity. They cut you no slack for anything. You can't ever make mistakes. How do you learn if you don't make mistakes? Even James 3:2 says if you didn't you would be perfect. So why do they contradict the words found in James? If that wasn't bad enough, then there is ZERO privacy or respect for ones dignity. Your life becomes a theatrical spectacle. A public display. They hang you on a pole for others to see. Everything is out in the open. You have to be some gladiator or spiritual icon or your nobody.. Then you got the alter-egos of two-faced high society folk walking around as puppeteers trying to keep up their appearance and hold you up to their own expectations as their puppet,, then the showboating and strutting their stuff you must keep up to. Or the constant pretending, the false fronts, people just going through the motions keeping up their appearance out of fear, putting on one skin for their favourites in the lime light, then will do a complete polar opposite switch a round by putting on a nasty skin with the ones that don't fit into their supreme idealistic likeness. Yes, they are very cagey quirky and controlling and manipulative and coercive. It's more about how you look than how you really are. It's about being seen doing the right thing than actually DOING the right thing you are measured by. It's just showcasing yourself to others for some glamour show. This manipulative controlling resistant air is a repellent. It will completely repel, shut down, and suppress people emotionally. How can anyone not feel uneasy, angry, and feel restlessly suppressed and emotionally strung out and just deflated? The unease causes DIS-ease. Most people vulnerable are already fragile, especially when starting out as children while they are still developing and discovering themselves. They leave you in constant tail spin in dread and doom dare you mess up. They alter or distort your entire life by underhandedly attacking you with morbid preconceptions that attack your good character, and try to make up some worst version of yourself while drumming up random pigeon holed allegations before they even know who you are, or without even standing in your shoes. They never allow you to find out who you are while still trying to discover yourself. You can't fail or have any learning curve. You have to be fail proof at all times so their nice shiny image isn't smeared. And if you make them look bad, they are more worried about how you appear than your suffering or voids even if you are at a crossroads and are challenged in anyway trying obtain a need in your life or fill a void.. They would rather smear your name instead to scapegoat the situation than have their image tarnished, silence you, shut you up, so you don't look bad in anyone. More worried about administering policy than nurturing people than ever standing by someone through their suffering. Reaping that narcissistic uptight overbearing domineering pompous arrogance and self righteousness would put anyone in an early grave. The neurotic narcissistic bullying of impounded idealistic and unrealistic expectations and measurements that get etched into your mind leaving you then with an inferiority complex feeling completely browbeaten, stone walled, and never feeling enough even from childhood then reap the psychological consequences such as PTSD or Stockholm syndrome for some. What child is ready to deal with that early on in life or has the emotional capacity to bear up or handle the negative impact of all the adverse repercussions later in life? They put further strain onto the strain that is already there. You can never unwind from everything building up. There is no where for anything to go. It's just swept under the carpet. There is nobody to pull you out to even help you through when feeling so entangled and imprisoned. From being so trapped. Nothing can go wrong. They make no allowances for mistakes or for change. How do you transition as a child when not even developed yet when controlled with so much fear and doom and gloom. How could anyone have a high self esteem? Even that damaged development lingering on into one's teen years and well into adult life, You feel like your in a cocoon and suppose to just pop out at random. Nothing can go wrong and anything that does goes wrong, they immediately make you into some devil or perpetrator. To the contrary of what they tout, they simply expect more from you than they do of themselves. Your expected to just get everything all at once FOR them. Come full circle in a second. Every JW might as well live in Hollywood. Cause there they have to put on a good face too. They have to act and pretend to be something they aren't. They have to be always on. Look good 100% of the time.
@Steve, can you come back on your comment and edit it to split it up. That huge block of words is impossible to read. Split it up like every 5 or 6 lines.
wow lmaooooo yessss thank you for sharing! Sums it up! I don't give them power anymore. I'm too happy to be out and creating the NOW and pursuing my Music Career and also a Mindset Specialist. I hope everyone creates some big dreams and goes to get them. Never too late xo
This was great. Thank you both.
We all completely understand the two sides to Witnesses thing. Not that I am trying to boast, and believe me, what I am going to tell, did not serve me, or my family much good. At the meetings, I would give these insightful answers from the scriptures, and in real context. Usually from scripture that we as Witnesses, would not use in the meetings or in service. I would prove valid points. At the end of the meetings, I would be complemented on my insightful answers and use of scripture. But, when it came time to say, go out in service, I would love trying to talk about actually scripture in context. Every, single, time, I would be shut down with, "the org this and that. Or, "The society and Watchtower says this or that". I would get the same thing when getting together with "friends" on a personal level. The org, had a strong hold on them, and even me to a degree. How could it not. After all, we are all human, and subject to social reconstruction. Mind control if you will. One thing though, no one would ever reach out to me to hang out. It was always me reaching for them. And the one person that did reach out to me, he always wanted me to do him little favors here and there. I didn't mind so much. But, when it came to talking about scripture, forget it. He would like a robot, say how thankful he was for Jehovah's organization. Not how thankful he was for The Fathers Son. You know, the one who wss tortured, beaten and died for him. Instead, we are all somehow supposed to be thankful for men who take our money, and live real comfortable on it, and pay sexual abuse lawsuits with it. And tell us that if we do not agree with their "uninspired" teachings and predictions, that we are not faithful to God. Somehow, my "brother" and "friend" felt the need to turn me in when I discussed with him the societies dealings and non scriptural teachings. You know? As much as all religions like say, the Catholic Church is guilty for their gross dealings with children, they at least eventually were able to admit their wrong doings. Granted, it took force. And, they admitted that they were wrong on some scriptural teachings. But, the governing body? The org? The society? Nope, it's all hide, attempt to get rid of literature, misdirect people, and tell all that, like rapunzel, the outsiders are all bad and under Satan's control. When in fact, the people on the outside are not all bad. Fact is, some of them are more Christ like in comparison to some of the brothers and sisters. And especially, the .org. I could go on forever. But, I have ranted enough. Thank you for this interview like the others.
P.S. I did forget to mention why I believe people did not want to hang with my family and me. I was always truthful about who I was a and who I wanted to be. I never hid from anyone, anything about me. Instead, I would use it as a platform to help others to open up about them selves. So that they also could move forward with their metamorphosis. But, all I would ever get from anyone was, "you are so brave for sharing you with us" And that they wish that they could be more like that. Truthfully? One can never change for the better unless they are willing to open up about who they are and the things they do. If you just hide away the real you behind some facade, you do no favors to your self, or anyone else. It was the only way I was able to grow into who I am now. Am I perfect? Heck No! I am only getting better. Granted, very depressed because I have no human friends any more.
Great, powerful comment! Yes, growth and connection happens when we are brave enough to be authentic.
I left the Cult Religion since May 2016. Used to be a pioneer. Before I left; two years before leaving I was having serious doubt, I used to hand in fake field service time. As of January 2019; I feel closer to the Most High God. No need for religion. You can get close to God of heaven and earth without a Religion.
The Gospel of St Thomas was left out of the bible because it emphasized that religion should not be made with bricks and wood but be inside you. Of course the pope and Roman senate did not want that in the bible as the catholic church was gaining world power.
Totally feel the same way🙏🏽
Wonderful interview. Well done
17 Public Reprovals announced on the same night? I thought you said it was a very small congregation?
Small town. 2 Congregations. Between 2 many pr’s & df’s
Where did she grow up?
Canada
@@exjwfifth9838 can she share what city? She sounds very local to.me 😊
Sure, Wasaga Beach Ontario @@rachelbritton3498
@@ajwirth8291 i was in geulph, i guess not so close
Excellent video to hanks for sharing ! Alisha do you have email I can ask you what therapy sessions worked for you , ?
I am a Recording Artist & Mindset Specialist for the Sports & Entertainment Industry! I teach Neuroscience & reprogramming the Sub-conscience Mind. There are many incredible self-sustaining techniques to help and I'd be happy to help. My social media is AJ WIRTH - send through a message on Instagram, FB, or LinkedIN
Gracias por los subtitulos en español
I got many pieces of information from this interview.
Gorgeous she is....
They wrote a song about it. Everybody plays a fool.....
Question no.3 at the baptism talk needs to be: "do you understand that you can never leave, if you choose to leave or removed against your will by the elders all of your family will view you as dead?"
A new interview! Yay, good to see you fifth!!